I think it probably gets played tonight. We have storms heading in over the next hour to two hours pushing out likely by 8:30-9 central. They didn’t want to start a championship game play a couple of innings and have to delay it.
if that was the case, he’d close me down permanently. Most of my comments are relatively mild compared to other comments I’ve read. I think angry has thicker skin than that.
It just seems so intuitive. Maybe it’s because I spent a decade watching Petersen beat us and Nikegon over the head with the same type of players. But you fill in your roster with locals who are ballers but under-trained. Then you put them on a training schedule. Then you beat other teams over the head with them.
The weather doesn’t sound good as lighting strikes to be followed by an hours worth of rain. Hopefully, they play tomorrow giving OSU another day of rest. Looks like I’m headed to the gym if that happens.
From what little I’ve seen of the MSU program, I figured Henderson had earned the job.
There had been some speculation that he’d take Horton’s place at nike u, but with the recent support for Horton from the AD in eugene, is that off the table?
Wow, that’s a shame. Henderson took that team to the brink of the championship after a dismal start. I thought they conducted themselves well and they competed to the last out. What more do you want from your staff?
I will always remember him for the whiff on Rodney Smith in the backfield before the short TD run in Rodent Bowl I. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQVWNokNYAk
He could end up playing for Riley in the whatever league. Neat deal.
This from Lundeberg, who doesn’t think a game will be played today: We’ve heard from someone who spoke to Pat Casey that he won’t allow tonight’s game to begin after 9 p.m. Central time.
Won’t allow?……..well, I suppose if anyone can call the power mongers at the NCAA/ESPN to heel it would be Casey.
Definitely helps. Any extra day osu pitchers can get helps. Really benefits eisert and Abel. Might hurt ark pitcher by being off for too long and not being real sharp. Advantage osu here.
While it didn’t seem like they were on fumes physically like Casey said, maybe they just needed a break mentally.
Beavs need rest. I’d argue Arkansas is more in the groove then the beavs, only because they had no worries moving into the finals. Beavs had their backs against the wall which can cause a little stress and anxiety, an extra day should help calm them down a little.
OT: Eggers with a puff piece on Riley. A lot of predictable BS and confirmation that Riley wants to stay involved with the Beavs.
Whatever Riley wants from the old guard at OSU, Riley gets. Right?
Sad, but I’m afraid he’ll be around. Hopefully just a “low grade” infection rather than full blown anthrax!
There is absolutely no way Riley can be both a head coach of a team and a consultant for us. If he tries both jobs at the same time, OSU should flat out fire him on the spot for breach of contract.
His new gig is a four month commitment during the spring. Neuheisel will also continue his job with CBS during the college football season and coach in this league during the spring.
How much practice/tape access a pro scout is allowed to have is up to the HC at each school. But you’re correct. Access to players with remaining eligibility is forbidden except within some structured rules about draft evaluatons.
This, from PNW Sports Fans: Some severely simple Arkansas fans were saying terrible things to Luke when he was warming up. Several old Beaver fans were ready to jump them, I threw in a few insults that I’m fairly certain they couldn’t understand.
Here’s where it got good. Freshman, Kevin Abel just stared that whole group down. He said something to them, but I couldn’t make out exactly what. That crew got pretty quiet after that. But it was cool to see how tight knit that crew is. With that attitude, I want Abel on our football team. Respect to him.
One Arkansas came over to apologize for the stupidity of the people in his section. Nice guy.
Postponement is huge since it sets up Luke, Christian and Jake for tonight all on decent rest. Absolutely need 6 full minimum from Luke tonight, hopefully 2 innings max from Chamberlain and 1 inning max from Mulholland.
Luke had some tough breaks last game with 2 infield nubbers getting on base and a questionable fair call that scored two. He was throwing alright and it’s kinda surprising he was pulled so early. He was facing the same batters for the 4th time in Omaha so that may be why Pat decided to take him out.
If we can get to the Ark starter and make their reliever Loseke throw 35+ pitches tonight we’ll be in real nice shape since we should be able to come back with Fehmel and Eisert in game 2.
I feel good about our bats. We are facing their ace, but we’ve faced several this year and put up numbers. Just need one quality start from the LH we know and love. I know I’m seeing through orange-colored glasses, but I don’t see dropping two. LH and BF are still both on short rest, but their outings were short; would be different if they’d tossed 115 pitches 3 nights ago.
One thing I wish they’d change in the line up is keeping Nobach in there. I know that Casey wants the lefty bat of Anderson vs the righty Blaine, but Nobach has been such a spark plug in the post season. Keep him in left and bring Anderson in late for defense when we have the lead.
Look for Arkansas to take on first pitch and in hitter’s counts to gauge the umpire’s strike zone early. They won’t chase…at least not if they want to stand a chance. I’m excited to see Luke battle tonight.
It is easier said than done to take pitches. Much like it is hard for our guys to swing at bad pitches when an umpire has a crap zone. Plate discipline is a learned behavior and is hard to switch off and on.
He’s not wrong. When Luke is on he gets the benefit on the outside edge…as does every other pitcher in the world, ever. LH is a master at painting the edge and he throws enough good ones that the marginal ones look good too.
College umpires are a significant step below MLB umpires and even minor league umpires. Probably one of the reasons ESPN does not use the kzone for the cws. If they did, it would upset probably everyone on both teams and the casual fan.
The way to take advantage is the catcher. Knowing where the umpire likes to setup. Does he reward nicely framed pitches? If a pitcher starts to hit a spot consistently, will he start calling a strike?
I’ve seen Cs set up outside and frame pitches in the opposite box… and get the call.
I like that Van Horn wants a smaller zone at this point. He wants his hitters to have a chance. But he also risks giving ours the same chance. Knight’s change-up has a noticeable rise in it which will be apparent if low pitches aren’t called, and he needs to put it in a smaller zone.
Just watching his tape, I’m going to guess he gave up a lot of HRs this year.
So I’ll also guess Van Horn’s calculus is that he’s relying on his guy taking advantage of a P’s park while trying to take the low zone (where his guy has a lot less control) away from our guy.
The lineup seemed like it got even better with Madrigal leading off. Grenier moved to the third spot, and Madrigal either leading off or batting second would be my lineup. Does anybody else think the offense got better with Madrigal moving to the top….??
It really doesn’t matter much. It was more Madrigal needed to start hitting. Now he can protect guys from the 3 hole. Pitchers won’t want him coming up with runners on. But you could argue he protected the bottom third when he batted leadoff. Pitchers were desperate to get those guys out before the lineup turned over.
But if I’m Casey, I don’t change what’s been working all year. Pitching is where the concern is.
Tough call for Casey putting in Malone over Nobach. Malone provides quality at bats. Making the pitcher really work. I’d bet if they tracked number of pitches per at bat, Malone would be at the top.
Nobach is the better hitter vs Anderson but Anderson is a big upgrade on defense in left. Likely see Nobach as a pinch hitter late in games. Jones likely to be the defensive sub.
Yes, for now. You’ll have to bear with me as I try to figure out why the site got slow and why the Twitter feed disappeared. Not sure how long it will take because I’ve been looking into all this with spare time.
If anyone here is a developer and willing to troubleshoot please contact me.
Hah. No. I think it’s some javascript or maybe even the hosting company being shady and putting us on a slow server. Might have to raise hell. The Twitter thing makes no sense, but those sidebars are glitchy.
When looking at it organically, it’s less like a conspiracy and more like white privilege.
That Disney and Hearst own ESPN is probably just coincidence. But it would be fitting.
Most SEC and some ACC schools have forgone their mandates in order to put money into sports. Money apparently gives a false sense of esteem, which leads to entitlement. Entitlement and money together breed privilege. All faults are forgiven. All weaknesses are ignored. But the remainder of the population has to bear the burden of that vacuum two-fold.
The end result is more of a feedback loop than it is direct causation from conspiracy.
The shortstop took 2 steps toward Adley before throwing the ball. WHere is the gray area of requiring a guy to slide. Adley was already putting on the breaks when he realized the ball was at 2nd.
Horrendous, and what we have been expecting. Surprising that it took until the 5th to happen. Seemed like it might be a fair game after all, but not so.
Casey should have stayed out there and just gone ballistic. If the umps can;t gift runs with poor fair/foul calls, they will do what they can to take away runs. UGH
Heimlich needs to gather himself and show the moxie he has had all season.
Wasn’t hot on starting him. Beavs 3-0 in CWS in games he didn’t pitch, 1-1 otherwise, with one being a late comeback. 4 runs on what, 2 hits in the inning?!
The big question is how to get ESPN out of the way.
My friend has no skin in the game and said it is so obvious the game is being fixed. Said this is the most bizarre game he’s ever seen and probably the worst umpiring he’s ever seen (I still think Greg Street was the worst ever).. He feels when we look back on this 20 years from now it will be so obvious (“just like steroids” he said)…the years of ESPN collusion. I totally agree. The telecasters were out fishing with the SEC pitcher. Disgusting.
I respectfully disagree. I think the umpiring has been pretty even tonight, maybe even slightly favorable to the Beavs.
Plate umpire’s zone has been generous to Beaver pitchers. Lot of borderline pitches being called strikes for OSU. Before Hemilich imploded, he was getting the low strikes that he wanted.
The 2nd base call was absolute crap, but I felt like the fair/foul call was a make-up call for OSU. That easily could have been one of those plays where there was no definitive evidence on replay to overturn the call and they could have let it stand as called on the field (foul).
So far, this game is completely on Luke. He lost his ability to control his pitches and it cost the Beavs big time.
Hopefully the Beavers bullpen can hold on and the bats can find a way to get to the Arkansas bullpen.
I have wanted Luke to be successful at the CWS and sign a Major League contract and have a great baseball career.
But I think he’s driven the final nail into his own coffin in Omaha. No GM wants a controversial pitcher who can’t come through in big games. He’s not worth the circus-show baggage that will come with the media attention if a GM signs him to a deal.
Hopefully the team can rally and give him a CWS ring, because it’ll likely be the only chance he has to get one in baseball…
Beavs running into outs in the 7th inning. Yikes. Bounced right to that guy clearly you stop at 1st once that happens. Did the 1st base coach tell him to go for 2? Awful decision.
“Umps screwed up but not the reason Beavs lost.”……exactly.
BTW, y’all probably know I appreciate Big Jim Wilson’s commentary; he seems pretty upbeat about the next TWO games. Sees the pitching advantage squarely on the Beavs side, especially in a third game.
I want to believe in Big Jim’s assessment, but we’ll need to see better mental approaches in several areas to prevail.
That’s debatable, huge momentum swing. A score and 1 out, or 2 outs and 1 base runner. Things were setting up for a dam buster inning. Instead we ground in to out 3 and get shelled the next inning.
Certainly debatable, I agree. However, the Ark pitcher gets some credit. He happens to be head and shoulders above anyone else on their staff; bodes well for Beavs offense going forward.
Basically one Heimlich head-case inning and some tough calls made all the difference. Beavs beat themselves more than Arkansas over-powering in any area, although they did play well and didn’t hurt themselves.
I respect Luke for his talent and his resilience throughout the season, but you can’t deny that the Beavs have played their best baseball in Omaha with him parked in the dugout. On the big stage it’s such a mental game, and when he’s lost his edge you can really see how it’s impacted the whole team and makes it that much more difficult to recover from the tough calls and mental errors, it really snowballed today.
Without the performance we got from Chamberlain I think it would have been a double-digit loss.
Excited and hopeful to see how well they respond tomorrow based on how they’ve shown up throughout the series when LH has been a non-factor. Confident the bats will show up but they’ll need another pitching performance like we got from Chamberlain today.
My sister and cousin were at the game and said the Arkansas fans are worse than LSU fans from previous years. They called called for no reason, stinky beavers, and other insults during the game. And, they were heckled by them after the game.
Casey needed to start Luke but Nate was too late with the hook. In hindsight he should’ve been pulled after the 2nd guy got on. Too bad for Luke but I agree that he may have just exited from the baseball landscape as a career.
ESPNSEC and the umps haven’t been able to slow down the Beavs to this point. It seemed like a quick exit was coming after the NC game at the beginning. The next 4 games were an offensive steamroller that couldn’t be slowed down.
I hoped for a fair game, but those 2 calls blew the game for the Beavs. I think if Luke comes out in the 4th with a 2-3 run lead, he would have settled in and finished well. The pressure came squarely on him to maintain the lead after everyone knew it was a total fix again, on Luke’s start, just like the other 2 games. It is quite obvious that the Beavs were not going to be allowed to win a Luke pitched game, and the ump crew was inserting themselves in each of the games.
Squeezed early in Game 1, obvious 2 run gift in game 2 on a foul ball, take 2 runs off the board in the 3rd start. Casey needs to blow his lid over this whole thing. I’d say the entire team realizes that the fix has been in against Luke during this tourney and they have performed admirably, but it certainly isn’t impartial umpiring, nor has it favored the Beavs on Luke’s starts. Perhaps other games have been even, but not with Luke.
This team really seems to play tight when Luke starts. They also seem to play best when they’re in must-win situations. We should see a different team tomorrow.
Is it a surprise that ESPN has the post game interviews for Casey and players all jacked up for the Beavs? Silence of the lambs as they go to the SEC slaughter? No appeals or comments necessary for those who get cheated again by the umps in favor of the SEC?
I said earlier in the season that this team was Casey’s last run and he may retire after this year. I wonder if the nonsense he has dealt with in Omaha is enough to tip the scales toward retiring. Each game has had controversial calls that needed to be overcome. Time to beat the heck out of those stinking pigs and then demand an investigation of the whole fraudulent tourney.
I think the interference call was very subjective and not clear cut either way based on the ump’s explanation to Casey. I also think there’s room for interpretation but I think you have to factor in some common freaking sense too.
I posted on another site that what in the hell is Adley supposed to do start his slide 12-15 feet away from the bag….nobody’s going to start their slide that early. He didn’t interfere with the second baseman’s attempt to make the throw…not even close. Right after I posted that, one of the play by play announcers (former MLBer) stated the same thing about how far he was off the base to even start a slide.
The ball down the right field line was even worse in terms of relocating the base runners after the pathetic foul call by the ump. Minimum should have been runners at 2nd and 3rd or possibly just at 2nd with a run in…that was the second run stolen from the Beavs.
Anytime the umps determine the outcome of the game by adding or subtracting runs from one team certainly creates controversy. All that said, the Beavs did themselves no favors by walking 7 batters and hitting two others allow 3 gifted runs.
Hopefully, the Beavs clean things up tomorrow or it’ll be over.
“I can guarantee this — I’ll never be one of those guys who tells you before the year that I’m retiring so I can have a goodbye tour. That would take away the attention of what the game is for — those kids playing the game. I don’t want that to happen. That’s not who I am. I respect the fact that some people do that, but for me, that’s not how it’s going to happen.”
The article also has this quote about the importance of getting the PAC North and South unified some twenty years ago: You had to have the opportunity to play a schedule to reach the RPI that was designed to make sure teams in the SEC and power conferences, including the Pac-6, got in, and everybody else had to stay home.”
Good news is our starting rotation for next season could be lights out with CC, Abel, Fehmel and if Drew Rasmussen returns and is healthy we will be very, very good. The bullpen should be solid too.
Don’t be like duck fans that think their team deserves to win a championship every year or just because they’re the ducks. As beaver fans, we know what it feels like to root for a championship team and hopefully understand how difficult it is to achieve. Plus the team is giving it all they’ve got to win it. Duck fans are spoiled and I’d like to think beaver fans are above that.
It was so obvious to me, I can’t believe it hasn’t been said more. Luke is very tough mentally. But you have to know deep down he feels responsible for the Greg Street jobbing last year. And then after such blatant disgusting bias in the bottom of 4, he comes out again feeling all weight of responsibility for another bout of bias against his team. So all that nonsense in addition to the intensity of an Arkansas home game at the CWS, it’s no surprise he struggled. Disgusting that the jobbing didn’t stop there. Had to immediately call foul and stop the play, and that ump knew fully what he was doing. No different than a fan choosing to either grab or not interfere with a ground rule double.
I’m glad they put him out game one so he could eat up a loss with their ace. Now the team has a chance with the other pitchers. Can you imagine him in a game 3? Yikes!
Exactly what I was thinking…..we got LH out of the way, and except for the one inning, a couple of blown calls, the Beavs out hit the Hogs big time, should have had at least 4 maybe 5 runs. Oh well, on to the next game, hopefully they play like they have when backs against the wall.
We need to hit better. Can’t score one run and win. Or 2 runs. Good thing is ark pitched their only 2 relievers. Both guys might pitch tomorrow too but we’ve seen them.
Our best pitcher so far in the CWS is Eisert and he’s ready for tomorrow. Don’t leave Fehmel in too long if he gets in trouble.
It’s a shame we wasted a dominant performance by Chamberlain.
We should have had the pen going from the start given Luke’s struggles. When he opened the fourth with a ball 4′ out of the zone, it should have been a flag. For some reason he seems to have trouble gripping the ball, and it sails. He was good through 4, but there were signs. Should have been more prepared. Chamberlain was really, really good. Could have won us the game.
JC has been in Puyallup trying to drum up interviews. Apparently there is article with new information on the LH situation coming out after the CWS. A calculated bomb to keep him from getting signed.
I’m not sure that’ll be necessary. Scouts just watched him crack under pressure in 3 consecutive games. They might have been sble to deal with the PR mess, but if he can’t go more than 3 innings and folds under pressure, why would any team take a chance?
Screw dolphinII boy. Maybe he should go to the dolphinII strip club and interview some of the dancers to see if they feel exploited….you know something that is morally reprehensible to him but didnt have a problem with dolphinII sponsoring his radio program although dolphinII categorically denied it multiple times.
Question for someone who knows the details of the rule:
Even if the interference is justified, how does Arky get two separate fielder’s choices out of it? Shouldn’t it be one out with runners at the corners or two outs with a run in? Aren’t the umps supposed to gauge intent then grant the FC that was intended?
Tonight, either:
1) NCAA/SEC/BSPN/CWS/Umps conspire to end the spotlight on their incompetence/greed, crowning the preordained SEC team champ, in this case Arky
or
2) NCAA/SEC/BSPN/CWS/Umps conspire to limit BS calls just enough to allow Beavs to actually win so they all can collect more money, whereupon, a game three follows… and… scenario “1,” above, takes place.
I think scenario #2 describes what the powers that be will try for tonight. But here is where their arrogance may lead to their downfall: Able vs Ark #3 arm is not a matchup that favors the Hogs and there are limits on what the umps can do to steal that game.
Beavs just need to get their minds right and play as they have for 90+% of the year and they’ll bring home the title.
A lot of teams have shut down Florida pretty easily.
Their fans must have gone bonkers when they shut it down late in the season. Killing that winning vibe is almost impossible to overcome when you have yet to face a concentration of real contenders. They managed fairly well after being gifted their seed. But they obviously had it in their heads that it was okay to just shut it down and lose for no reason.
Campbell may be “lights out” this week; I’m just looking at his season:
ERA 4.12, allows a hit per inning, started 16 games but only pitched 67.2 innings, losing record 5-6.
Shutting down Florida is a nice accomplishment, but I’d submit this: the Beavs have been better at the plate than Florida for several weeks now.
Win or Lose tonight this ball club is one helluva of team — they really are a team that can only beat themselves w/ a nudge or two from the umps. Don’t want to sound like I’m conceding or giving up on the team, just that baseball is a strange game sometimes, and just when you think you’ve seen it all — last night. That interference call and the questionable call regarding the foul ball and runner advancement is beyond me — in all my years of playing and watching, about the only thing I can remember that blatantly WTF moment was an umpire calling a 10 year old out for missing the third base bag rounding home (would have won the game) — game over. All I know is that there has been wayyyyy too much talk about umpires whether it be for or against the Beavs. The talk is justified given that we shouldn’t have to “see” the Umps, the best Umps are invisible. I’m really hoping it doesn’t come down to a blown call tonight, and that the boys just make the Umps a non-factor.
Go Beavs!!!
Pitching stat line, 16ks, only 5 hits. But 7 walks and 2 hpb. Basically gave the game away.
Luke just doesn’t have it. 3 chances, three strikes. Not a big game pitcher.
Chamberlain just got himself the Sunday job next year. He’s been a big game pitcher in the cws.
Beavs need to tune out the crowd. It’s going to be pretty hostile tonight.
The umpire call was huge. Saved ark pitcher about 10-15 pitches, maybe more. Might have knocked him out an inning earlier.
Game plan has to be the same tonight, score early and often. Put the game away early. Get to game 3 and anything can happen.
Luke has had this year being in an OSU cocoon. I don’t see how a MLB team will sign him, given his atrocious (yes, atrocious) performances at the CWS, more than the salacious media onslaught. I think he is going to have a tough time. He’ll always have the standing ovation his last game at Goss. Angry, I know you don’t divulge your sources, but canzano is in Puyallup?
This is second and third hand information. So it’s probably worth what you paid for it.
I was just told to expect an article after the CWS. I’m sure it was going to be written in the context of “Luke dominated, but here is this new information” in order to taint the title. One thing that has been missing from the discussions/disclosures is any sort of medical exam reports. I suspect that, based on nothing more than a conversation I had via social media PM with an abuse survivor that insisted there MUST be one.
Everyone that this source knew that was asked turned down his interview request, fwiw.
There are a lot of people in this community pulling for Luke. And some of the ones I know, know the family.
This is what I have been saying since the beginning.
There is no evidence.
None. Zero. Nada. Nil.
If there was evidence, the prosecutor (who was aggressive on child molestation to the point of having a case thrown out because they were vindictive) would have charged him with rape.
The O, in its infinite click-baitedness, published the nasty nasty bits to tease. But they didn’t explain that the prosecutor didn’t believe the victim.
They also didn’t explain that the prosecutor has a mandate to believe the victim always unless evidence can contend it.
So… a highly aggressive prosecutor who has a mandate to believe the victim when she sad she was raped… charged two ambiguous cop-a-feels against an adolescent… then fudged everythig again to let him off on some eventual record sealing deal without prison.
Yup.
That all smells like it’s not a game for the prosecutor.
Dolphin Boy gets to rail against a kid who may or may not have done something but paid the price for doing it, regardless. Yet he needs to reconcile being Brenda Tracy’s champion while running ads for a child-sex-trafficker.
Dolphin Boy gets to go home, look around, and thank child prostitution for his wealth. I hope he teaches his children the value of being a floozy without a moral compass.
Then again, his children probably hate him as well.
I would if my father were some philandering hypocrite.
Yeah, Luke hasn’t been up to his standards in the CWS for sure. But I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. His overall track record is better then most. He has the tools be be in the majors and if someone was willing to take it on and coach him up to the big league I think he could be one of the greats.
From the GT: “https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/cws-chamberlain-provides-strong-relief/article_cd05b7c7-11be-5380-8fbf-78e3f21047f4.html about how well the bullpen has done during the cws. I am recalling all the not worried about the starting pitchers but the bullpen is weak predictions.
How do you Interfere with a play that can’t be made because no one was covering first? If someone was on first the second basemen would have thrown in Rhythm Over Rutschman’s head. The alleged interference happened because the he had to double clutch because no one was covering first.
So I had to listen to the game because I was at work. I agree that interference call was b’s. It’s funny how great the announcer made that foul ball catch by the first baseman sound. He said it was one of the best catches ever in the cows and probably the best for the next ten years. Lmao
The Umpire claimed AR “went right at the 2nd baseman”. Everyone knows AR didn’t come close touching the 2nd baseman and he ducked to avoid affecting the throw. Pretty sure the umpire realized his error afterward but was not willing to admit it. It’s an umpire ego thing. In the end, he’s got all of ESECPN behind him, so his conscience is clean.
It was nice to hear the explanation from the umpire. The announcers tried their best from then on, not to rip the umpire for his decision. They did not agree with the call or his reasoning. Didn’t seem like an sec bias there whatsoever.
Interesting, Canzano isn’t really an investigative reporter anymore (he just likes to pontificate from his throne). Any idea what he’s trying to dig around for? It makes me think that he wants something juicy to fend off those saying that there’s more to the story or at least more questions need to be asked about whether Heimlich actually did it.
Since he always uses his show as the platform to drive readers to his column, there might be some clues as to what he discusses in the next few days. A tepid listen for about 5 minutes today yielded about 3 minutes of pointing the finger at KC Royals gm for having high moral standards in the clubhouse and signing Heimlich would be a hypocritical move. (Pot meet Kettle) Then he wraps up the segment bemoaning the whole issue and claims he is tired of talking about it but it keeps coming up.
Add insult to injury, Jonathon Smith came on for an interview in the next segment. OSU is so blindly unaware of the JC manipulation machine. NO OSU AFFILIATED EMPLOYEE SHOULD EVER GIVE ANY TIME FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH JC. Until this line is clearly drawn, he will act like the sanctimonious moral authority he thinks he is.
Dare we think canzano is, for example, speaking with Kristine Anderson? Luke was home schooled, so there wouldn’t be much fodder from elementary school days.
The second iteration of the lineup today had him in the 9 hole; we are now on the third version with Preston there.
Not surprising after watching Kwan’s play in CF last night; lotta heart but just not 100% physically.
That guy is at 1st, the home ump is giving them runners and not a called strike in sight.
Fehmel is getting squeezed badly, phantom hit batter scores the first run. Incredible. Last year the Beavs were punished by the umps for trying to take a lot of pitches and extending pitchers, this year, opposite story where all opposing batters automatically go to a full count and get a walk. Incredible inconsistency by umpires.
I see a bunch of Beaver batters trying to hit it out of the park, turning into fly balls. Our pitchers giving up walks like they be going out of style. No patience.
It would be interesting to get an honest assessment of the strike/ball calls from Adley’s perspective.
Jim Wilson says they are trying to be too perfect with their pitches but it sure seems like they are being forced to try to be perfect and not really getting a fair shake on any early pitches, which has put a lot of pressure on both Heimlich and Fehmel.
Do these Arky players seem to cry about ball/strike calls more than most? That one kid cried about the check swing call, the ginger beard was all kinda butt hurt…
Why is Casey calling the bunt there? It was stupid (worked) the first time, yet they did the same exact thing popping into a double play in the other game. Just a stupid play. So many ways to score on an out there just swing away. Probably cost us the game. I no longer feel we deserve to win.
Casey’s huge bunt “wart” shows itself at the most inopportune time.
I have incredible admiration for these guys. They may not have deserved to win, but they refuse to lose as well. Incredible heart by Taylor, Grenier and Larnach in the 9th, but the entire team was carrying the weight of bad call after questionable call, tough breaks, poor execution throughout and didn’t let it beat them. All they needed was a break, and the dropped foul ball was the opening they drove a truck through tonight. Finish it tomorrow Beavs!
Do they send out Abel for the start and a couple innings then go to Pearce for the middle and Mulholland for the win? Can Chamberlain get a few guys after throwing 90 pitches last night? Don’t pitch Heimlich or Fehmel….
Johnny Wholestaff tomorrow. If your arm is still attached to your shoulder, you might be in to pitch. My money is on Jordan Britton to start.
No matter what happens, I for one am glad this thing will be over tomorrow. I can’t take this emotional rollercoaster much longer. These guys are gonna give me a heart attack.
Arkansas should be celebrating a national title right now on that foul ball that no one (or everyone) called for that dropped allowing Grenier’s at-bat to continue. They left the door open a tad and the Beavs came crashing thru.
Lay it on the line tomorrow boys. Because tomorrow IS the last time some of you will wear a Beaver jersey.
I couldn’t care less about those announcers. The time spent away from the action showing fans etc, along with their chatter gets old quick for me.
Jim Wilson has joined Parker making the radio much more entertaining than TV.
JMHO.
Your friend needs to watch if he is any kind of baseball fan. I doubt he sees Chamberlain face more than 4 hogs but the entire game should be worth his time.
Yeah he’ll be watching now. He thought we were the Ducks…lol. He’s not a college fan at all. Should be interesting to see his perception of the umps since he doesn’t care about the game or college sports. He’s a big MLB fan so he will have some reference.
Man, I hope that 2B ump is not behind the plate tomorrow.
If the normal ump rotation (clockwise) is in play, he’ll be right there behind the plate.
Caveat: not sure if having 6 umps changes the rotation but in a regular season series the umps rotate clockwise from game to game.
UPON FURTHER REVIEW: a look at the box scores for the two games indicates that only Coskey made the usual clockwise move (2b to 1b), some umps didn’t work both games and others moved in random pattern. So there is hope.
Hogs used 5 pitchers, only Murphy and Cronin threw more than 22.
Beavs used 4 arms, including Abel for 23 and Jake for 6.
For the hogs, expect Campbell to start and be on a very short leash. Here is a discussion from something called “SEC Now” on the hogs pitching situation: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23931285
Post game Casey said only Fehmel and possibly Eisert were unlikely to throw tomorrow.
Big Jim is guessing it will be: Abel and Mulholland with Chamberlain and Fehmel in situational spots, not the first time Jim has differed from Casey on strategy.
Maybe Lapine or Bill will give us detailed analysis before noon tomorrow.
Got to hand it to the team, they’ve survived with poor starting pitching, Madrigal in a mini-slump and Kwan being injured. I think they are the better team, I just hope they execute better and win going away. And fuck the SEC for good measure!
The mismanagement and subsequent rebuttal from that final out was enough to tsunami the momentum in the Beavs’ favor for tomorrow.
Most likely the mindset will be that Arkansas feels dejected for a game they ‘should’ have won and will allow the pressure/rumination of said thoughts to cloud their present state of being. OSU on the other hand will still be cascading off of the high that was such an epic comeback and will feel completely loose with new life to let the cards fall as they may. My guess is that in the first inning or two, Arkansas might play a bit tight and delay the inevitable onslaught that Beaver bats will eventually produce.
If our hodge-podge of pitching is at least serviceable, and the umpires don’t completely show their bias against us, this momentum swing may carry us straight home as we ride off into the sunset.
Agree 100%. In both games the Beavs have not played their usual game in many areas, this momentum swing is: real, a big factor, and just what the Beavs need to get back to the way they played most of the season.
Finally a really tough break that went against the Razorbacks! My wife and I kept saying that the Razorbacks were due for a fuck-up….bettter late than never. Can’t believe the Beavs are 5-2 in the CWS!!!! WTF!!! What a crazy season so far! Leave it all on the field tomorrow boys!!!!
That was a text book bonehead move. Catch the ball, win the title. 100 little leaguers do it every season. That one play will grind on those players all night. What ifs like that are hard to shake.
I remember grumbling something about not keeping score in T-ball when I first had to deal with T-ball.
Then I saw a game.
It’s like the Keystone Cops chasing Oprah out there. “You get a run! You get a run! You get a run! Everybody gets a run!”
A lot of kids would quit after their introduction to baseball if we kept score simply because someone would just be able to point to their fielding percentages.
And then you have to deal with the kids who field well (and their parents) getting all upset with the rest of the team for not being HoFers in the first grade.
Somehow, knowing how to be part of a team has become less a part of team sports.
I remember when my oldest son was playing in the local Little League. He was generally the 2nd baseman on his team, but one game they had him pitch. I was umpiring the game next door (we had back-to-back fields) and would try to watch when I could. So I go over and the coach says, “your kid just struck out the side!”
You can imagine the pride at the time…it was awesome until I learned later that, in between strikeouts, he had walked in 7 runs.
The Beavs wind up #1 or #2 tomorrow…I’m betting #1.
No matter what happens, don’t forget to enjoy the game. This is so sweet after last year’s CWS bullshit.
My hope? OSU wins. Barnes moves on to some other job “close to his heart” or personal geography, Casey moves to AD and raises standards across athletics.
There’s a postgame up on YT with the Razorbacks.They sound defeated. I think we win unless we get that 2nd base ump behind the plate and/or other ump fuckups.
The Beavers need to blow them out early next game. Razorbacks have two lights-out pitchers in Isaiah Campbell and Blaine Knight. If they can get them out of the game early, chances are good the Beavs win comfortably. Else it’s going to be a dogfight, again.
Great victory tonight, but I don’t think Arkansas is as rattled as people think. They know they’re a good team, and from these last two games, it looks as though they can manufacture runs with less hitting. Painful loss judging from the post-game interview, but OSU’s post game interview was painful to watch too. Both teams will be ready to play tomorrow.
Knight isn’t lights out. And it would be a mistake to run him through the order anytime soon. He has good action for what he has. But he has nothing on the bottom of the zone. He floats around the top of the zone, apparently hoping to not make a mistake.
The Beavs have out hit Arkansas 21-12. They just need some timely hits and to get runners in from third base with less than two outs. I wouldn’t call Arkansas’ pitching dominant so far.
Against Florida, Campbell allowed no base runners and struck out 6 in the first three innings, all 6 k’s were swinging. He was throwing 94-95 and Florida waived at every breaking ball out of the zone.
The 2nd time through the order Florida started putting the bat on the ball. Three up three down in the 4th but they all put it in play, then in 5th at about 55-60 pitches they started hitting him harder and he gave up two runs on two singles, a hit batter, and a wild pitch that scored a run.
So I don’t know if Campbell was really that good or it was just because Florida just has very undisciplined hitters. Florida’s offense just seems to be to try and jack bombs, they didn’t see breaking balls at all. If we can avoid chasing sliders we’ll get to Campbell. His record is just 5-6 in 16 starts and only 67 innings total so he gets pulled early a lot. The only guys left in arks pen are reindl and rammage and reindl was all over the place yesterday. We’ll probably be going against ramage for several innings. Their coach thought maybe Loseke could go an inning but wasn’t confident in that.
We’ve got Abel, Mulholland, Heimlich, and Chamberlain available today, Casey said Fehmel or Eisert are not likely. I wonder if we start Luke for 1 inning or 2, he was looking good through 4 on Monday. From Casey’s presser I think he is expecting 5 innings from Kevin. Then we could go Christian for an inning, maybe Pearce against a righty, and Mully to close it out. 93 degrees today at game time so good thing Kevin is from so-cal. Kevin faced the 6-7-8-9 hitters last night so the top of the order hasn’t seen the change up yet. Mully k’d the lead off hitter looking and then the two pitches to their 2-hole guy so nobody else has seen him.
Thanks, I figured you or Bill or ohio would do some work on this.
Didja notice the SEC guys I linked to above felt Campbell would have a LONG leash? I was in line with your analysis, he has a pattern of being pulled fairly early all season long………seems more likely in a do or die situation.
Speaking of short leashes, if Luke does see the mound even “Too Late” will not let him go far!
Sadly, Luke can’t be trusted beyond situational substitutions.
It was still the right call to throw him when we did. He’s the heart of the team, and the players don’t respond if he’s not leading the charge. You have to complete the ritual before you can expect any result, good or bad.
They asked the right fielder about the foul ball and he berated the reporter for even bringing it up. That guy is also their leadoff hitter who was whining about the clear strike 3 call on him from Mully in the bottom of the 9th. That guy is going to have last night in his head tonight.
He’s clearly a teammate who is going to need some pick-up from the rest of them. He put his lid on because he wanted to cry.
Funny thing is… it wasn’t his fault. Shaddy shad the bed.
Can I say that?
He was late to the play and would have had to make a good to great play to catch it if it was even his call. 1b was all over it… until 2b barged in for his glorious CWS-winning catch and ensuing dogpile. 1b could have still reached out and simply caught the damn thing. But 1b was stuck in the moment, looking at 2b like he was a ball hog.
I was taught to go low and play the flub if distracted, not look at the guy who blew me off the play while having no clue.
Always eye the ball. Comunicate. Be the last level of defense if necessary.
More often, I see someone call it, only to admit they never saw it… only to watch the first guy reach out and snap it in… because it’s a fly ball… not a dogpile.
Always easier for the outfielder coming in than an infielder going out to make the play. The key is someone has to take charge of the play. If you’re that guy, then you better make the play.
The first two guys were depressing as hell, especially the second. But the others were decent, if subdued. I like Knight. He just dialed it in and said what was true. He really didn’t mean “Who cares?” like some might want to read that. He cares. What he meant is his team needs to shrug it off and play the next game.
The emotions of baseball are real. These kids interviewed as well as they could be expected. They are competitors and Arkansas is a really, really good baseball team.
The interviews were terrible. She was leading with some soft, “Are you gonna be okay?” voice.
The one good question she asked was one she asked the third or fourth guy in about the third or fourth question.
“What did coach say?”
That should have led off every interview. It might have been hilarious, like every “person on the street” inteview is edited to be.
OT… I was a “person on the street” interview on a late night show once. They edited the fuck out of me. I still got applause, but it was for some minor point that could easily be called deflection.
Anyway, that question would have led to more open answers from the start. People are more comfortable when they can first coachspeak, then revise.
This just in from an AB correspondent on site last night:
“After Larnach K’d in the 7th with men on, he returned to RF in the b7 and b8 to taunts of “Trevor Sucks” from the Ark fans. He just bore it by looking back towards the infield while those of us in the Beav section in the upper deck down the RF line muttered to ourselves about the “classy” Ark fans.
When he returned to RF in the b9 he stared right back at that section without gestures while those of us above and to his left started a chant of “TREVOR’S AWESOME”.
If you take heckling from fans seriously, then you aren’t a pro.
I’m not saying T didn’t do right. I’m saying the fans’ perception of classy is skewed. You do what you can to demoralize the opposition. When it doesn’t pan out, the player gets to stand proud.
I don’t know, I find these SEC/Arky fans are a special kind of irritating. That’s probably a me thing though but damn it was nice to watch ‘loud clapper guy’ behind home plate sit on his hands at the end of the game.
One of the consequences of taunting is that revenge is sweet.
It’s like the really really really poor argument some people think they have when they say some celeb/authority shouldn’t be shouted down when s/he says or does something absolutely stupid.
I’m sorry.
I didn’t know free speech precluded you having to be an adult who has to weather the consequences of your speech.
After the game it could be heard by a little Arky fan, “Paw, what just happened?” Paw turned to his son and said, “well son, you’ll have to just ask your Maw errr I mean your sister.” And with that, the little fella walked away from the ball park with a smile while listening to his favorite tune…the theme song from the movie Deliverance.
From Eggers PT:
Casey said someone texted him a screen shot of ESPN’s home page proclaiming “Arkansas, 2018 national champions.” The “Mother Ship” jumped the gun on that one.
He smiled and shook his head.
“Well,” he said, “gotta finish.”
“We got frustrated tonight,” Casey said as he walked out of TD Ameritrade, “but we never gave in.
“No matter what happens, we’re not going to give in. I can promise you that.”
Who cares? This team isn’t about Luke anymore. He’s cracked during the CWS. Let him hold a clipboard and cheer on the boys as they play, but he shouldn’t sniff the field today.
I’d still start Abel, hope he can go 4, and hope that between Chamberlain, Pearce, Gambrell, Fehmel, and Mulholland we can find enough to get the final 5 innings.
Need to jump on them early and have them go to their bullpen quickly and then it’ll be all heart from that point on. Guys giving everything they have and hopefully the Beavs hoisting their 3rd CWS trophy.
No way that Fehmel would go before Luke since Bryce pitched yesterday.
Luke did throw three shutout innings on Monday and it wasn’t like he threw 129 pitches like Nickerson, he threw 86. It might be short but I expect him to be on the mound at some point today.
Gambrell gave up 5 runs in 1/3 of an inning against WSU and since then has only pitched an inning vs San Diego and none in the postseason so I don’t think he’s on their list for today.
Are they not printing Beaver ones too? I thought they usually printed both for winner take all games so they would be ready. The joke was always about some kid in Somalia wearing a 1992 Blazers Championship shirt or the like.
New thread up. Has website speed improved? It should be better.
Still can’t figure out the Twitter recruiting issue. It works if you click on it but for some reason isn’t loading the tweets inline.
It’s still a little slow to load but about half the time I get the regular page like always with the menus and Twitter feed at the top right and then the other half I get some strange simple blue and white page that has the twitter feed all the way at the bottom. This is all on my phone, Android/chrome.
First bitches!
Go Beavs with balls and sticks
Let’s get them, boys! Gamblers are heavy on the BEAVS, Big series favorites
Go Beavs baby!
Weather delay.
Currently sunny and 78 here.
Is this game going to be played or not? Seeing a lot of conflicting info on twitter.
re-evaluate at 4:30 or 4:35….
The weather is too good now. They will delay till it turns to shit.
I think it probably gets played tonight. We have storms heading in over the next hour to two hours pushing out likely by 8:30-9 central. They didn’t want to start a championship game play a couple of innings and have to delay it.
Angry, has something changed on your site? I used to be able to log in and then post. Now with every post I make I have to re-login?
I think you are not taking a hint….
if that was the case, he’d close me down permanently. Most of my comments are relatively mild compared to other comments I’ve read. I think angry has thicker skin than that.
It was a joke. Just yanking your chain.
I emptied out the cache because the site was slow. So you’ll have to login and click the “remember me” button.
thanks and I was looking for that option to remember me but can’t find it. I think it used to be at bottom of your site.
Should be on your main login page, but if you can’t find it, it’s here. http://angrybeavs.com/wp-login.php
OT: while we wait. FB recruiting and some hope for JS’s local strategy.
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/5/4/17314902/disparities-in-recruiting-rankings-midwest-texas-south-florida-boise-state
It just seems so intuitive. Maybe it’s because I spent a decade watching Petersen beat us and Nikegon over the head with the same type of players. But you fill in your roster with locals who are ballers but under-trained. Then you put them on a training schedule. Then you beat other teams over the head with them.
Who’s going to skip the first 10 minutes to avoid the three-peat of the LH smear?
Is he starting?
I think he will if he’s ok mentally.
The weather doesn’t sound good as lighting strikes to be followed by an hours worth of rain. Hopefully, they play tomorrow giving OSU another day of rest. Looks like I’m headed to the gym if that happens.
Looks bad:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgkyPHuU8AEm-Q1.jpg
OT: Mississippi State hires IU’s coach.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2018/06/25/iu-baseball-coach-chris-lemonis-hired-mississippi-state/729756002/
From what little I’ve seen of the MSU program, I figured Henderson had earned the job.
There had been some speculation that he’d take Horton’s place at nike u, but with the recent support for Horton from the AD in eugene, is that off the table?
Wow, that’s a shame. Henderson took that team to the brink of the championship after a dismal start. I thought they conducted themselves well and they competed to the last out. What more do you want from your staff?
Agree
OT…..not too Bright has left the football team to enter the supplemental NFL draft
I will always remember him for the whiff on Rodney Smith in the backfield before the short TD run in Rodent Bowl I.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQVWNokNYAk
He could end up playing for Riley in the whatever league. Neat deal.
Tag, you’re it.
Did anyone ever hear what his problem was? Was he talking shit publicly or something? Didn’t JS suspend him immediately?
Someone here said they heard it was an academic problem. Third hand info so who knows.
Game is postponed.
Thanks for the update. Any news on the moon landing?
never happened
Good calll Omahan, first game will start tomorrow 4 pacific.
This from Lundeberg, who doesn’t think a game will be played today:
We’ve heard from someone who spoke to Pat Casey that he won’t allow tonight’s game to begin after 9 p.m. Central time.
Won’t allow?……..well, I suppose if anyone can call the power mongers at the NCAA/ESPN to heel it would be Casey.
And kendal noted It wasn’t Casey’s call & Arkansas fans said it was because he was afraid.
game postponed…its,delayed til tomorrow.
Lineup posted showed Kwan playing and Nobach setting; Malone DH.
The extra day may help Kwan be closer to 100% and may enhance their experience advantage over the razorbacks who’ve already been waiting to play.
Does the delay hurt a team which is in the groove (aka Beavs) more than the rest helps them?
Definitely helps. Any extra day osu pitchers can get helps. Really benefits eisert and Abel. Might hurt ark pitcher by being off for too long and not being real sharp. Advantage osu here.
While it didn’t seem like they were on fumes physically like Casey said, maybe they just needed a break mentally.
Beavs need rest. I’d argue Arkansas is more in the groove then the beavs, only because they had no worries moving into the finals. Beavs had their backs against the wall which can cause a little stress and anxiety, an extra day should help calm them down a little.
OT: Eggers with a puff piece on Riley. A lot of predictable BS and confirmation that Riley wants to stay involved with the Beavs.
Whatever Riley wants from the old guard at OSU, Riley gets. Right?
Sad, but I’m afraid he’ll be around. Hopefully just a “low grade” infection rather than full blown anthrax!
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/399196-294298-riley-likely-to-remain-a-part-of-oregon-state-football
I’ve said it before, Riley = herpes.
Without the fun beforehand….
There is absolutely no way Riley can be both a head coach of a team and a consultant for us. If he tries both jobs at the same time, OSU should flat out fire him on the spot for breach of contract.
Why not?
His new gig is a four month commitment during the spring. Neuheisel will also continue his job with CBS during the college football season and coach in this league during the spring.
I would think it was an NCAA Violation for a professional coach to have that much access to a college team.
How much practice/tape access a pro scout is allowed to have is up to the HC at each school. But you’re correct. Access to players with remaining eligibility is forbidden except within some structured rules about draft evaluatons.
He ain’t professional….
The rules aren’t there to gauge one’s savvy. They only care who signs his paychecks.
Seems to me CBS and coaching at Oregon State, a public institution with all sorts of NCAA rules, are very different.
This, from PNW Sports Fans:
Some severely simple Arkansas fans were saying terrible things to Luke when he was warming up. Several old Beaver fans were ready to jump them, I threw in a few insults that I’m fairly certain they couldn’t understand.
Here’s where it got good. Freshman, Kevin Abel just stared that whole group down. He said something to them, but I couldn’t make out exactly what. That crew got pretty quiet after that. But it was cool to see how tight knit that crew is. With that attitude, I want Abel on our football team. Respect to him.
One Arkansas came over to apologize for the stupidity of the people in his section. Nice guy.
https://pnwsportsfans.com/2018/06/26/notes-from-omaha-day-2/
There is a whole new level of venom towards LH on social media from these pigs.
Loved Kevin Abel’s response re: Mulholland liking to be a drama queen. I’m glad he had the opportunity to be so flippant.
What?
Postponement is huge since it sets up Luke, Christian and Jake for tonight all on decent rest. Absolutely need 6 full minimum from Luke tonight, hopefully 2 innings max from Chamberlain and 1 inning max from Mulholland.
Luke had some tough breaks last game with 2 infield nubbers getting on base and a questionable fair call that scored two. He was throwing alright and it’s kinda surprising he was pulled so early. He was facing the same batters for the 4th time in Omaha so that may be why Pat decided to take him out.
If we can get to the Ark starter and make their reliever Loseke throw 35+ pitches tonight we’ll be in real nice shape since we should be able to come back with Fehmel and Eisert in game 2.
I feel good about our bats. We are facing their ace, but we’ve faced several this year and put up numbers. Just need one quality start from the LH we know and love. I know I’m seeing through orange-colored glasses, but I don’t see dropping two. LH and BF are still both on short rest, but their outings were short; would be different if they’d tossed 115 pitches 3 nights ago.
I know, stating the obvious.
One thing I wish they’d change in the line up is keeping Nobach in there. I know that Casey wants the lefty bat of Anderson vs the righty Blaine, but Nobach has been such a spark plug in the post season. Keep him in left and bring Anderson in late for defense when we have the lead.
I’ve got to think that Noback get’s a couple plate appearances; maybe a late substitution for ZT.
Van Horn pulling a little Phil Jackson–trying to set up the strike zone for tonight.
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2018/jun/26/heimlich-has-hogs-attention-20180626/?sports
Look for Arkansas to take on first pitch and in hitter’s counts to gauge the umpire’s strike zone early. They won’t chase…at least not if they want to stand a chance. I’m excited to see Luke battle tonight.
It is easier said than done to take pitches. Much like it is hard for our guys to swing at bad pitches when an umpire has a crap zone. Plate discipline is a learned behavior and is hard to switch off and on.
He’s not wrong. When Luke is on he gets the benefit on the outside edge…as does every other pitcher in the world, ever. LH is a master at painting the edge and he throws enough good ones that the marginal ones look good too.
And there’s none better that AR at framing a pitch.
He’s also announcing a detailed strategy publicly, while suggesting umps can be unduly partial to the corners.
Oh yeah, definitely some gamesmanship going on there.
College umpires are a significant step below MLB umpires and even minor league umpires. Probably one of the reasons ESPN does not use the kzone for the cws. If they did, it would upset probably everyone on both teams and the casual fan.
The way to take advantage is the catcher. Knowing where the umpire likes to setup. Does he reward nicely framed pitches? If a pitcher starts to hit a spot consistently, will he start calling a strike?
I’ve seen Cs set up outside and frame pitches in the opposite box… and get the call.
I like that Van Horn wants a smaller zone at this point. He wants his hitters to have a chance. But he also risks giving ours the same chance. Knight’s change-up has a noticeable rise in it which will be apparent if low pitches aren’t called, and he needs to put it in a smaller zone.
Just watching his tape, I’m going to guess he gave up a lot of HRs this year.
So I’ll also guess Van Horn’s calculus is that he’s relying on his guy taking advantage of a P’s park while trying to take the low zone (where his guy has a lot less control) away from our guy.
NW winds to calm…that will play in our favor I’d think.
The lineup seemed like it got even better with Madrigal leading off. Grenier moved to the third spot, and Madrigal either leading off or batting second would be my lineup. Does anybody else think the offense got better with Madrigal moving to the top….??
It really doesn’t matter much. It was more Madrigal needed to start hitting. Now he can protect guys from the 3 hole. Pitchers won’t want him coming up with runners on. But you could argue he protected the bottom third when he batted leadoff. Pitchers were desperate to get those guys out before the lineup turned over.
But if I’m Casey, I don’t change what’s been working all year. Pitching is where the concern is.
Tough call for Casey putting in Malone over Nobach. Malone provides quality at bats. Making the pitcher really work. I’d bet if they tracked number of pitches per at bat, Malone would be at the top.
Nobach is the better hitter vs Anderson but Anderson is a big upgrade on defense in left. Likely see Nobach as a pinch hitter late in games. Jones likely to be the defensive sub.
Did we lose the twitter feed?
Yes, for now. You’ll have to bear with me as I try to figure out why the site got slow and why the Twitter feed disappeared. Not sure how long it will take because I’ve been looking into all this with spare time.
If anyone here is a developer and willing to troubleshoot please contact me.
Well I got it to come back, but you have to click a link to see it instead of it auto-feeding. Step in the right direction.
Sleazy Mini-me Canzano put hit out on the site. Won’t be long ’til we are shutdown.
Hah. No. I think it’s some javascript or maybe even the hosting company being shady and putting us on a slow server. Might have to raise hell. The Twitter thing makes no sense, but those sidebars are glitchy.
New lineup posted – looks like Nobach is back in, in Anderson’s spot
Well Arkansas has the fan advantage. Usually this means the ump advantage, too
We, apparently for the firs time the CWS, have the LH advantage.
Looks great so far.
Love the in depth analysis. Apparently Arkansas may try to test Kwan by hitting a few over his head.
Good strategy…who would have thought about trying to hit one over the center fielder’s head??
Double play was big…was sitting at 45 pitches with one out. Need a few efficient innings to extend his outing as much as possible.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1011770261329215489
When looking at it organically, it’s less like a conspiracy and more like white privilege.
That Disney and Hearst own ESPN is probably just coincidence. But it would be fitting.
Most SEC and some ACC schools have forgone their mandates in order to put money into sports. Money apparently gives a false sense of esteem, which leads to entitlement. Entitlement and money together breed privilege. All faults are forgiven. All weaknesses are ignored. But the remainder of the population has to bear the burden of that vacuum two-fold.
The end result is more of a feedback loop than it is direct causation from conspiracy.
Bullshit explanation by that ump. What conference does that fucker work in?
“He ran right into the fielder”
Stops like 10 feet from the base.
Calm down guys, this same thing was called against LSU in the finals last year. It sucks, but it’s not new.
The shortstop took 2 steps toward Adley before throwing the ball. WHere is the gray area of requiring a guy to slide. Adley was already putting on the breaks when he realized the ball was at 2nd.
Horrendous, and what we have been expecting. Surprising that it took until the 5th to happen. Seemed like it might be a fair game after all, but not so.
Casey should have stayed out there and just gone ballistic. If the umps can;t gift runs with poor fair/foul calls, they will do what they can to take away runs. UGH
Heimlich needs to gather himself and show the moxie he has had all season.
This is about to get ugly.
Heimlich can’t handle the crowd. He implodes so fast under pressure.
Wasn’t hot on starting him. Beavs 3-0 in CWS in games he didn’t pitch, 1-1 otherwise, with one being a late comeback. 4 runs on what, 2 hits in the inning?!
Headcase. I can understand why, but headcase.
Not drafted. Completely destroyed by ESPN & every columnist who writes. Mentally & emotionally drained. Flashes of old self. Not surprised.
If you are not surprised at the three last games played by Luke, you have one hell of a crystal ball!
Choke. Oh well Omaha was fun.
“Conservative Placement” expressly conveying bias toward Arkansas
Fuck you this is stolen
The big question is how to get ESPN out of the way.
My friend has no skin in the game and said it is so obvious the game is being fixed. Said this is the most bizarre game he’s ever seen and probably the worst umpiring he’s ever seen (I still think Greg Street was the worst ever).. He feels when we look back on this 20 years from now it will be so obvious (“just like steroids” he said)…the years of ESPN collusion. I totally agree. The telecasters were out fishing with the SEC pitcher. Disgusting.
They went fishing with OSU in 06 or 07.
That’s inappropriate, too. But to the bigger point: I want to complain about them, and the fix…let me, yeah?
I respectfully disagree. I think the umpiring has been pretty even tonight, maybe even slightly favorable to the Beavs.
Plate umpire’s zone has been generous to Beaver pitchers. Lot of borderline pitches being called strikes for OSU. Before Hemilich imploded, he was getting the low strikes that he wanted.
The 2nd base call was absolute crap, but I felt like the fair/foul call was a make-up call for OSU. That easily could have been one of those plays where there was no definitive evidence on replay to overturn the call and they could have let it stand as called on the field (foul).
So far, this game is completely on Luke. He lost his ability to control his pitches and it cost the Beavs big time.
Hopefully the Beavers bullpen can hold on and the bats can find a way to get to the Arkansas bullpen.
Replay on TV was definitive fair on my set. Placement of runners after the decision was where Beavs got shafted.
I have wanted Luke to be successful at the CWS and sign a Major League contract and have a great baseball career.
But I think he’s driven the final nail into his own coffin in Omaha. No GM wants a controversial pitcher who can’t come through in big games. He’s not worth the circus-show baggage that will come with the media attention if a GM signs him to a deal.
Hopefully the team can rally and give him a CWS ring, because it’ll likely be the only chance he has to get one in baseball…
Such a bummer.
Pretty sure he’s already signed and will be announced once the CWS ends.
I doubt it. I think that’s why he’s been such a head case during the CWS.
Hmm – then I think he’d have had more confidence.
Beavs running into outs in the 7th inning. Yikes. Bounced right to that guy clearly you stop at 1st once that happens. Did the 1st base coach tell him to go for 2? Awful decision.
Play was in front of Taylor, he had time to return to 1st once he saw the carom back to the OF. Not good mental baseball.
No shit. Terrible play.
Chamberlain 8ks in relief. Damn.
The freshmen are stepping up.
Kwan should not be playing.
Wow. How shitty can we play.
There is no limit apparently.
Okay, Rutchman chases Loeske.
Always a chance when a new arm comes in…
Go Beavs!
Yikes. Arkansas bullpen is strong.
Channel 2006.
Gotta beat us twice to get the ring, Hogs. See you tomorrow.
Go Beavs!
Too much baseball. Eat, sleep, come to the ballpark an hour ahead of time and play. Like Little League. Umps screwed up but not the reason Beavs lost.
“Umps screwed up but not the reason Beavs lost.”……exactly.
BTW, y’all probably know I appreciate Big Jim Wilson’s commentary; he seems pretty upbeat about the next TWO games. Sees the pitching advantage squarely on the Beavs side, especially in a third game.
I want to believe in Big Jim’s assessment, but we’ll need to see better mental approaches in several areas to prevail.
That’s debatable, huge momentum swing. A score and 1 out, or 2 outs and 1 base runner. Things were setting up for a dam buster inning. Instead we ground in to out 3 and get shelled the next inning.
Certainly debatable, I agree. However, the Ark pitcher gets some credit. He happens to be head and shoulders above anyone else on their staff; bodes well for Beavs offense going forward.
Basically one Heimlich head-case inning and some tough calls made all the difference. Beavs beat themselves more than Arkansas over-powering in any area, although they did play well and didn’t hurt themselves.
I respect Luke for his talent and his resilience throughout the season, but you can’t deny that the Beavs have played their best baseball in Omaha with him parked in the dugout. On the big stage it’s such a mental game, and when he’s lost his edge you can really see how it’s impacted the whole team and makes it that much more difficult to recover from the tough calls and mental errors, it really snowballed today.
Without the performance we got from Chamberlain I think it would have been a double-digit loss.
Excited and hopeful to see how well they respond tomorrow based on how they’ve shown up throughout the series when LH has been a non-factor. Confident the bats will show up but they’ll need another pitching performance like we got from Chamberlain today.
My sister and cousin were at the game and said the Arkansas fans are worse than LSU fans from previous years. They called called for no reason, stinky beavers, and other insults during the game. And, they were heckled by them after the game.
Casey needed to start Luke but Nate was too late with the hook. In hindsight he should’ve been pulled after the 2nd guy got on. Too bad for Luke but I agree that he may have just exited from the baseball landscape as a career.
ESPNSEC and the umps haven’t been able to slow down the Beavs to this point. It seemed like a quick exit was coming after the NC game at the beginning. The next 4 games were an offensive steamroller that couldn’t be slowed down.
I hoped for a fair game, but those 2 calls blew the game for the Beavs. I think if Luke comes out in the 4th with a 2-3 run lead, he would have settled in and finished well. The pressure came squarely on him to maintain the lead after everyone knew it was a total fix again, on Luke’s start, just like the other 2 games. It is quite obvious that the Beavs were not going to be allowed to win a Luke pitched game, and the ump crew was inserting themselves in each of the games.
Squeezed early in Game 1, obvious 2 run gift in game 2 on a foul ball, take 2 runs off the board in the 3rd start. Casey needs to blow his lid over this whole thing. I’d say the entire team realizes that the fix has been in against Luke during this tourney and they have performed admirably, but it certainly isn’t impartial umpiring, nor has it favored the Beavs on Luke’s starts. Perhaps other games have been even, but not with Luke.
Good news is….looks like we have a,solid rotation next year with fehmel, CC and Abel. If drew returns next year, this could be a lights out staff.
This team really seems to play tight when Luke starts. They also seem to play best when they’re in must-win situations. We should see a different team tomorrow.
Is it a surprise that ESPN has the post game interviews for Casey and players all jacked up for the Beavs? Silence of the lambs as they go to the SEC slaughter? No appeals or comments necessary for those who get cheated again by the umps in favor of the SEC?
I said earlier in the season that this team was Casey’s last run and he may retire after this year. I wonder if the nonsense he has dealt with in Omaha is enough to tip the scales toward retiring. Each game has had controversial calls that needed to be overcome. Time to beat the heck out of those stinking pigs and then demand an investigation of the whole fraudulent tourney.
I think the interference call was very subjective and not clear cut either way based on the ump’s explanation to Casey. I also think there’s room for interpretation but I think you have to factor in some common freaking sense too.
I posted on another site that what in the hell is Adley supposed to do start his slide 12-15 feet away from the bag….nobody’s going to start their slide that early. He didn’t interfere with the second baseman’s attempt to make the throw…not even close. Right after I posted that, one of the play by play announcers (former MLBer) stated the same thing about how far he was off the base to even start a slide.
The ball down the right field line was even worse in terms of relocating the base runners after the pathetic foul call by the ump. Minimum should have been runners at 2nd and 3rd or possibly just at 2nd with a run in…that was the second run stolen from the Beavs.
Anytime the umps determine the outcome of the game by adding or subtracting runs from one team certainly creates controversy. All that said, the Beavs did themselves no favors by walking 7 batters and hitting two others allow 3 gifted runs.
Hopefully, the Beavs clean things up tomorrow or it’ll be over.
Casey won’t retire with his boy on the team
Here is what Casey told Eggers about retiring:
The article also has this quote about the importance of getting the PAC North and South unified some twenty years ago: You had to have the opportunity to play a schedule to reach the RPI that was designed to make sure teams in the SEC and power conferences, including the Pac-6, got in, and everybody else had to stay home.”
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/399297-293249-beavers-casey-appreciates-it-all
Good news is our starting rotation for next season could be lights out with CC, Abel, Fehmel and if Drew Rasmussen returns and is healthy we will be very, very good. The bullpen should be solid too.
Next season next season next season next season
That should be our fight song.
If you lived through the 28 years, it was our fight song.
… thanks for the memories … not!
Don’t be like duck fans that think their team deserves to win a championship every year or just because they’re the ducks. As beaver fans, we know what it feels like to root for a championship team and hopefully understand how difficult it is to achieve. Plus the team is giving it all they’ve got to win it. Duck fans are spoiled and I’d like to think beaver fans are above that.
It was so obvious to me, I can’t believe it hasn’t been said more. Luke is very tough mentally. But you have to know deep down he feels responsible for the Greg Street jobbing last year. And then after such blatant disgusting bias in the bottom of 4, he comes out again feeling all weight of responsibility for another bout of bias against his team. So all that nonsense in addition to the intensity of an Arkansas home game at the CWS, it’s no surprise he struggled. Disgusting that the jobbing didn’t stop there. Had to immediately call foul and stop the play, and that ump knew fully what he was doing. No different than a fan choosing to either grab or not interfere with a ground rule double.
I’m glad they put him out game one so he could eat up a loss with their ace. Now the team has a chance with the other pitchers. Can you imagine him in a game 3? Yikes!
Exactly what I was thinking…..we got LH out of the way, and except for the one inning, a couple of blown calls, the Beavs out hit the Hogs big time, should have had at least 4 maybe 5 runs. Oh well, on to the next game, hopefully they play like they have when backs against the wall.
We need to hit better. Can’t score one run and win. Or 2 runs. Good thing is ark pitched their only 2 relievers. Both guys might pitch tomorrow too but we’ve seen them.
Our best pitcher so far in the CWS is Eisert and he’s ready for tomorrow. Don’t leave Fehmel in too long if he gets in trouble.
I predict Heimlich as a reliever in game 3
“I predict Heimlich as a reliever in game 3”
To relieve the team of any chance of winning a game 3?
How were the bases loaded, Luke seemingly lost it, lead blown and even AFTER a mound visit….NO ONE was even warming up???
It’s a shame we wasted a dominant performance by Chamberlain.
We should have had the pen going from the start given Luke’s struggles. When he opened the fourth with a ball 4′ out of the zone, it should have been a flag. For some reason he seems to have trouble gripping the ball, and it sails. He was good through 4, but there were signs. Should have been more prepared. Chamberlain was really, really good. Could have won us the game.
That and the bullshit interference call.
JC has been in Puyallup trying to drum up interviews. Apparently there is article with new information on the LH situation coming out after the CWS. A calculated bomb to keep him from getting signed.
I’m not sure that’ll be necessary. Scouts just watched him crack under pressure in 3 consecutive games. They might have been sble to deal with the PR mess, but if he can’t go more than 3 innings and folds under pressure, why would any team take a chance?
Nobody is going to care after the CWS. Pretty sure he’s already signed.
I’m sure there will be no bias in his expose.
Floozy can’t even get the language correct, let alone not be a hypocrite.
Screw dolphinII boy. Maybe he should go to the dolphinII strip club and interview some of the dancers to see if they feel exploited….you know something that is morally reprehensible to him but didnt have a problem with dolphinII sponsoring his radio program although dolphinII categorically denied it multiple times.
DolphinII boy denied his knowledge about their sponsorship.
Question for someone who knows the details of the rule:
Even if the interference is justified, how does Arky get two separate fielder’s choices out of it? Shouldn’t it be one out with runners at the corners or two outs with a run in? Aren’t the umps supposed to gauge intent then grant the FC that was intended?
I wondered the exact same thing. How is it they get the outcome of both possible scenarios?
What bugs me is that the run is in after 1B makes no move to hold him and goes to 2B. 2B doesn’t even get that choice.
Looking forward…
Tonight, either:
1) NCAA/SEC/BSPN/CWS/Umps conspire to end the spotlight on their incompetence/greed, crowning the preordained SEC team champ, in this case Arky
or
2) NCAA/SEC/BSPN/CWS/Umps conspire to limit BS calls just enough to allow Beavs to actually win so they all can collect more money, whereupon, a game three follows… and… scenario “1,” above, takes place.
I think scenario #2 describes what the powers that be will try for tonight. But here is where their arrogance may lead to their downfall: Able vs Ark #3 arm is not a matchup that favors the Hogs and there are limits on what the umps can do to steal that game.
Beavs just need to get their minds right and play as they have for 90+% of the year and they’ll bring home the title.
I dunno man… Isaiah Campbell is the real deal. He shut down Florida pretty easily.
A lot of teams have shut down Florida pretty easily.
Their fans must have gone bonkers when they shut it down late in the season. Killing that winning vibe is almost impossible to overcome when you have yet to face a concentration of real contenders. They managed fairly well after being gifted their seed. But they obviously had it in their heads that it was okay to just shut it down and lose for no reason.
Campbell may be “lights out” this week; I’m just looking at his season:
ERA 4.12, allows a hit per inning, started 16 games but only pitched 67.2 innings, losing record 5-6.
Shutting down Florida is a nice accomplishment, but I’d submit this: the Beavs have been better at the plate than Florida for several weeks now.
^^^^^^This
Channel the 90% Beav!!!
Someone must have said it already.
This is too much like 2006.
We’ll call this version the Heart Palpitation Kids
Win or Lose tonight this ball club is one helluva of team — they really are a team that can only beat themselves w/ a nudge or two from the umps. Don’t want to sound like I’m conceding or giving up on the team, just that baseball is a strange game sometimes, and just when you think you’ve seen it all — last night. That interference call and the questionable call regarding the foul ball and runner advancement is beyond me — in all my years of playing and watching, about the only thing I can remember that blatantly WTF moment was an umpire calling a 10 year old out for missing the third base bag rounding home (would have won the game) — game over. All I know is that there has been wayyyyy too much talk about umpires whether it be for or against the Beavs. The talk is justified given that we shouldn’t have to “see” the Umps, the best Umps are invisible. I’m really hoping it doesn’t come down to a blown call tonight, and that the boys just make the Umps a non-factor.
Go Beavs!!!
Morning after thoughts –
Pitching stat line, 16ks, only 5 hits. But 7 walks and 2 hpb. Basically gave the game away.
Luke just doesn’t have it. 3 chances, three strikes. Not a big game pitcher.
Chamberlain just got himself the Sunday job next year. He’s been a big game pitcher in the cws.
Beavs need to tune out the crowd. It’s going to be pretty hostile tonight.
The umpire call was huge. Saved ark pitcher about 10-15 pitches, maybe more. Might have knocked him out an inning earlier.
Game plan has to be the same tonight, score early and often. Put the game away early. Get to game 3 and anything can happen.
Luke has had this year being in an OSU cocoon. I don’t see how a MLB team will sign him, given his atrocious (yes, atrocious) performances at the CWS, more than the salacious media onslaught. I think he is going to have a tough time. He’ll always have the standing ovation his last game at Goss. Angry, I know you don’t divulge your sources, but canzano is in Puyallup?
Angry didn’t say that, GWH did.
Yes, I’m hearing that he’s been in Puyallup as recently as last week.
This is second and third hand information. So it’s probably worth what you paid for it.
I was just told to expect an article after the CWS. I’m sure it was going to be written in the context of “Luke dominated, but here is this new information” in order to taint the title. One thing that has been missing from the discussions/disclosures is any sort of medical exam reports. I suspect that, based on nothing more than a conversation I had via social media PM with an abuse survivor that insisted there MUST be one.
Everyone that this source knew that was asked turned down his interview request, fwiw.
There are a lot of people in this community pulling for Luke. And some of the ones I know, know the family.
This is what I have been saying since the beginning.
There is no evidence.
None. Zero. Nada. Nil.
If there was evidence, the prosecutor (who was aggressive on child molestation to the point of having a case thrown out because they were vindictive) would have charged him with rape.
The O, in its infinite click-baitedness, published the nasty nasty bits to tease. But they didn’t explain that the prosecutor didn’t believe the victim.
They also didn’t explain that the prosecutor has a mandate to believe the victim always unless evidence can contend it.
So… a highly aggressive prosecutor who has a mandate to believe the victim when she sad she was raped… charged two ambiguous cop-a-feels against an adolescent… then fudged everythig again to let him off on some eventual record sealing deal without prison.
Yup.
That all smells like it’s not a game for the prosecutor.
Dolphin Boy gets to rail against a kid who may or may not have done something but paid the price for doing it, regardless. Yet he needs to reconcile being Brenda Tracy’s champion while running ads for a child-sex-trafficker.
Dolphin Boy gets to go home, look around, and thank child prostitution for his wealth. I hope he teaches his children the value of being a floozy without a moral compass.
Then again, his children probably hate him as well.
I would if my father were some philandering hypocrite.
Yeah, Luke hasn’t been up to his standards in the CWS for sure. But I wouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. His overall track record is better then most. He has the tools be be in the majors and if someone was willing to take it on and coach him up to the big league I think he could be one of the greats.
From the GT: “https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/cws-chamberlain-provides-strong-relief/article_cd05b7c7-11be-5380-8fbf-78e3f21047f4.html about how well the bullpen has done during the cws. I am recalling all the not worried about the starting pitchers but the bullpen is weak predictions.
How do you Interfere with a play that can’t be made because no one was covering first? If someone was on first the second basemen would have thrown in Rhythm Over Rutschman’s head. The alleged interference happened because the he had to double clutch because no one was covering first.
So I had to listen to the game because I was at work. I agree that interference call was b’s. It’s funny how great the announcer made that foul ball catch by the first baseman sound. He said it was one of the best catches ever in the cows and probably the best for the next ten years. Lmao
The Umpire claimed AR “went right at the 2nd baseman”. Everyone knows AR didn’t come close touching the 2nd baseman and he ducked to avoid affecting the throw. Pretty sure the umpire realized his error afterward but was not willing to admit it. It’s an umpire ego thing. In the end, he’s got all of ESECPN behind him, so his conscience is clean.
It was nice to hear the explanation from the umpire. The announcers tried their best from then on, not to rip the umpire for his decision. They did not agree with the call or his reasoning. Didn’t seem like an sec bias there whatsoever.
I’d like to know about your source that says CanzaNO is fishing in Puyallup.
-jz
He’s a friend of mine that is involved in local baseball. That’s it.
Interesting, Canzano isn’t really an investigative reporter anymore (he just likes to pontificate from his throne). Any idea what he’s trying to dig around for? It makes me think that he wants something juicy to fend off those saying that there’s more to the story or at least more questions need to be asked about whether Heimlich actually did it.
All I was told is that there is “new information” and that he is looking for response or comments from people here.
Since he always uses his show as the platform to drive readers to his column, there might be some clues as to what he discusses in the next few days. A tepid listen for about 5 minutes today yielded about 3 minutes of pointing the finger at KC Royals gm for having high moral standards in the clubhouse and signing Heimlich would be a hypocritical move. (Pot meet Kettle) Then he wraps up the segment bemoaning the whole issue and claims he is tired of talking about it but it keeps coming up.
Add insult to injury, Jonathon Smith came on for an interview in the next segment. OSU is so blindly unaware of the JC manipulation machine. NO OSU AFFILIATED EMPLOYEE SHOULD EVER GIVE ANY TIME FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH JC. Until this line is clearly drawn, he will act like the sanctimonious moral authority he thinks he is.
Beavs in the black uniforms AGAIN. Expect the L.
Seriously, how many fucking times to they have to lose in Omaha with the black uniforms before they realize it’s bad luck?
Nvm, they have their gray’s on. Thank the Lord
Yeah was going to say… I think you confused their warm up jerseys for the game jerseys.
Dare we think canzano is, for example, speaking with Kristine Anderson? Luke was home schooled, so there wouldn’t be much fodder from elementary school days.
very well could be. This guy said “several” people were approached for comment/interview.
To bad they didnt agree, then unload on canzano “on the record”.
Looks like Kwan is a late scratch and Preston is in at #9 spot.
I was thinking even if Kwan played he should be in the 9 hole.
The second iteration of the lineup today had him in the 9 hole; we are now on the third version with Preston there.
Not surprising after watching Kwan’s play in CF last night; lotta heart but just not 100% physically.
Please tell me that’s not the 2B ump behind home.
FFS two homerun balls if anywhere else in the park. We will get to this guy.
Tight zone for Fehmel.
Apparently Arky stole Casey’s signs
Stooping to lower lows.
Or ESPN provided the signs and relayed them directly to the dugout…sarc
Is the home plate guy the same “he ran right into the fielder” guy from last night?
Nope, he is at first.
Honestly we don’t deserve to win, but it should be because of our poor play and lack of mental fortitude, not the umps.
At this point we’re doing our best to lose on our own. The umps are just backup.
That guy is at 1st, the home ump is giving them runners and not a called strike in sight.
Fehmel is getting squeezed badly, phantom hit batter scores the first run. Incredible. Last year the Beavs were punished by the umps for trying to take a lot of pitches and extending pitchers, this year, opposite story where all opposing batters automatically go to a full count and get a walk. Incredible inconsistency by umpires.
I see a bunch of Beaver batters trying to hit it out of the park, turning into fly balls. Our pitchers giving up walks like they be going out of style. No patience.
WTF is wrong with our starters.
Squeezing the zone. At least 3 strikes were called balls in that inning. Rinse and repeat.
It would be interesting to get an honest assessment of the strike/ball calls from Adley’s perspective.
Jim Wilson says they are trying to be too perfect with their pitches but it sure seems like they are being forced to try to be perfect and not really getting a fair shake on any early pitches, which has put a lot of pressure on both Heimlich and Fehmel.
Do these Arky players seem to cry about ball/strike calls more than most? That one kid cried about the check swing call, the ginger beard was all kinda butt hurt…
Nice inning by Eisert
We’re gonna need 5 or so more of those before we go to Mulholland
Why is Casey calling the bunt there? It was stupid (worked) the first time, yet they did the same exact thing popping into a double play in the other game. Just a stupid play. So many ways to score on an out there just swing away. Probably cost us the game. I no longer feel we deserve to win.
Casey’s huge bunt “wart” shows itself at the most inopportune time.
You haven’t thought we deserve to win since 5:03.
TREVOR LARNACH!!!!!
Holy good God!
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1012169908430430208
And Mulholland is in… What, was Gambrell not available? :P
He did it!
Fuck yeah! That is all
That was one of the best games I’ve ever seen.
Historic.
Pitch Able tomorrow and then have the pen ready.
Only historic if the beavs win tomorrow!
It’s Abel. And they didn’t deserve to win.
Unless you won by a bunch of bad calls or fixing, you deserved to win. That’s sports.
Relax I’m mocking how stupid Angry is.
Since you’re in a good mood, why don’t you walk us through your logic?
On your schedule is fine.
OTOH, you can’t think hogs deserved to win………or can you?
They didn’t, but they did.
I didn’t realize how young Able was. That kid has a promising future..
Beavs win tomorrow with pitching depth, hitting returns, Ark folds under pressure….
I have incredible admiration for these guys. They may not have deserved to win, but they refuse to lose as well. Incredible heart by Taylor, Grenier and Larnach in the 9th, but the entire team was carrying the weight of bad call after questionable call, tough breaks, poor execution throughout and didn’t let it beat them. All they needed was a break, and the dropped foul ball was the opening they drove a truck through tonight. Finish it tomorrow Beavs!
Do they send out Abel for the start and a couple innings then go to Pearce for the middle and Mulholland for the win? Can Chamberlain get a few guys after throwing 90 pitches last night? Don’t pitch Heimlich or Fehmel….
Pitch the freaking waterboy if you have to tomorrow. Everyone’s available. There is no tomorrow.
Huge win. Love it. Go Beavs!
Who has the better waterboy?!?
OSU I’m betting….
Johnny Wholestaff tomorrow. If your arm is still attached to your shoulder, you might be in to pitch. My money is on Jordan Britton to start.
No matter what happens, I for one am glad this thing will be over tomorrow. I can’t take this emotional rollercoaster much longer. These guys are gonna give me a heart attack.
Arkansas should be celebrating a national title right now on that foul ball that no one (or everyone) called for that dropped allowing Grenier’s at-bat to continue. They left the door open a tad and the Beavs came crashing thru.
Lay it on the line tomorrow boys. Because tomorrow IS the last time some of you will wear a Beaver jersey.
Those fucking announcers seemed more excited when Arkansas took a 3-2 lead than they did with the Beavs historic comeback!
What about Sam Tweedt for a couple of innings, he used to be the mid-week starter? Too risky? I know he has been off this season.
BREAKING NEWS: FLAGS LOWERED TO HALF-STAFF IN FRONT OF ESPN HEADQUARTERS AFTER BEAVER WIN OVER ARKANSAS
I couldn’t care less about those announcers. The time spent away from the action showing fans etc, along with their chatter gets old quick for me.
Jim Wilson has joined Parker making the radio much more entertaining than TV.
JMHO.
Parker broadcast on blast, SECSPN on mute all the way!
One of my friends just learned his wife’s cousin is Christian Chamberlain. Lol.
He’s like, “Yeah I guess I better watch tomorrow!”
Your friend needs to watch if he is any kind of baseball fan. I doubt he sees Chamberlain face more than 4 hogs but the entire game should be worth his time.
Yeah he’ll be watching now. He thought we were the Ducks…lol. He’s not a college fan at all. Should be interesting to see his perception of the umps since he doesn’t care about the game or college sports. He’s a big MLB fan so he will have some reference.
Man, I hope that 2B ump is not behind the plate tomorrow.
If the normal ump rotation (clockwise) is in play, he’ll be right there behind the plate.
Caveat: not sure if having 6 umps changes the rotation but in a regular season series the umps rotate clockwise from game to game.
UPON FURTHER REVIEW: a look at the box scores for the two games indicates that only Coskey made the usual clockwise move (2b to 1b), some umps didn’t work both games and others moved in random pattern. So there is hope.
Dont let him dictate the game. Its hard to argue when you’re knocking the shit out of the ball.
Did anybody find out what conference that schmuck umps for?
Coskey umps for the Big 12, according to his bio here:
http://www.midamericanumpireclinic.com/staff.html
I’m not watching tomorrow. Everytime i change the channel something magical happens. I’ll just leave it off, we will find out by 9 PM if I’m the jinx.
Anybody have some links to the better highlights?
https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2018-06-16/college-world-series-finals-scores-bracket-and-live-updates
Thanks.
Luck o’ da Beavs
How many pitchers did Arkansas use today? Do they have anything left?
Hogs used 5 pitchers, only Murphy and Cronin threw more than 22.
Beavs used 4 arms, including Abel for 23 and Jake for 6.
For the hogs, expect Campbell to start and be on a very short leash. Here is a discussion from something called “SEC Now” on the hogs pitching situation:
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23931285
Post game Casey said only Fehmel and possibly Eisert were unlikely to throw tomorrow.
Big Jim is guessing it will be: Abel and Mulholland with Chamberlain and Fehmel in situational spots, not the first time Jim has differed from Casey on strategy.
Maybe Lapine or Bill will give us detailed analysis before noon tomorrow.
Got to hand it to the team, they’ve survived with poor starting pitching, Madrigal in a mini-slump and Kwan being injured. I think they are the better team, I just hope they execute better and win going away. And fuck the SEC for good measure!
The mismanagement and subsequent rebuttal from that final out was enough to tsunami the momentum in the Beavs’ favor for tomorrow.
Most likely the mindset will be that Arkansas feels dejected for a game they ‘should’ have won and will allow the pressure/rumination of said thoughts to cloud their present state of being. OSU on the other hand will still be cascading off of the high that was such an epic comeback and will feel completely loose with new life to let the cards fall as they may. My guess is that in the first inning or two, Arkansas might play a bit tight and delay the inevitable onslaught that Beaver bats will eventually produce.
If our hodge-podge of pitching is at least serviceable, and the umpires don’t completely show their bias against us, this momentum swing may carry us straight home as we ride off into the sunset.
Agree 100%. In both games the Beavs have not played their usual game in many areas, this momentum swing is: real, a big factor, and just what the Beavs need to get back to the way they played most of the season.
From a hog board after Arky got a hit in the bottom of the ninth:
“i bet osu fans are pissed the booth sounded excited bout that base hit”
I think that’s the most perceptive statement I’ve read from a SEC fan. The ESPN bias is so bad that they even understand it!
Finally a really tough break that went against the Razorbacks! My wife and I kept saying that the Razorbacks were due for a fuck-up….bettter late than never. Can’t believe the Beavs are 5-2 in the CWS!!!! WTF!!! What a crazy season so far! Leave it all on the field tomorrow boys!!!!
That was a text book bonehead move. Catch the ball, win the title. 100 little leaguers do it every season. That one play will grind on those players all night. What ifs like that are hard to shake.
You must be watching a damn good Little League. I mostly see drops!
You are not wrong.
I remember grumbling something about not keeping score in T-ball when I first had to deal with T-ball.
Then I saw a game.
It’s like the Keystone Cops chasing Oprah out there. “You get a run! You get a run! You get a run! Everybody gets a run!”
A lot of kids would quit after their introduction to baseball if we kept score simply because someone would just be able to point to their fielding percentages.
And then you have to deal with the kids who field well (and their parents) getting all upset with the rest of the team for not being HoFers in the first grade.
Somehow, knowing how to be part of a team has become less a part of team sports.
I remember when my oldest son was playing in the local Little League. He was generally the 2nd baseman on his team, but one game they had him pitch. I was umpiring the game next door (we had back-to-back fields) and would try to watch when I could. So I go over and the coach says, “your kid just struck out the side!”
You can imagine the pride at the time…it was awesome until I learned later that, in between strikeouts, he had walked in 7 runs.
I’m saying 100 little leaguers out of 100,000 can do it. Certainly we can hold elite college baseball players to a higher standard.
4-1 teams are 0-1 in the 2018 CWS.
The Beavs wind up #1 or #2 tomorrow…I’m betting #1.
No matter what happens, don’t forget to enjoy the game. This is so sweet after last year’s CWS bullshit.
My hope? OSU wins. Barnes moves on to some other job “close to his heart” or personal geography, Casey moves to AD and raises standards across athletics.
Luck O da Beavergopher……DVR ran out the pitch before Grenier’s hit. Crap.
Anybody else think they missed the pop up because the second baseman was too aggressive trying to catch the final out? Oops.
He was.
He wanted all the glory. All of it. And it would have been the best glory. The best ever. Believe me.
And God. Lots of God. God bless America… and God stuff.
God.
I feel like you’re trying to say something, but I have no idea what
You would know if you didn’t hate God.
On another note, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
He looked like the Road Runner. I think it freaked out the other two guys.
What was funny was that the 1B had a line on the ball and would have caught it if Shaddy wouldn’t wave barged in for all the glory.
He still could have caught the ball then asked, “Wtf, man?”
But he got upset at him in the moment and lost focus.
The Heart Palpitation Kids did it again.
There’s a postgame up on YT with the Razorbacks.They sound defeated. I think we win unless we get that 2nd base ump behind the plate and/or other ump fuckups.
link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssI-0M0vKY&
A lot of sad body language in that presser.
For sure. I think we win a title unless the umps get involved.
It’s too difficult to forget that popup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2weLXtPyZc
The Beavers need to blow them out early next game. Razorbacks have two lights-out pitchers in Isaiah Campbell and Blaine Knight. If they can get them out of the game early, chances are good the Beavs win comfortably. Else it’s going to be a dogfight, again.
Great victory tonight, but I don’t think Arkansas is as rattled as people think. They know they’re a good team, and from these last two games, it looks as though they can manufacture runs with less hitting. Painful loss judging from the post-game interview, but OSU’s post game interview was painful to watch too. Both teams will be ready to play tomorrow.
Go get em Beavs. Chase them pigs out of Omaha.
Knight isn’t lights out. And it would be a mistake to run him through the order anytime soon. He has good action for what he has. But he has nothing on the bottom of the zone. He floats around the top of the zone, apparently hoping to not make a mistake.
The Beavs have out hit Arkansas 21-12. They just need some timely hits and to get runners in from third base with less than two outs. I wouldn’t call Arkansas’ pitching dominant so far.
And that’s considering we’ve hit it where they are… a lot.
Despite all that, the series count is pretty much correct. We should have won game 1, and they should have won game 2.
Against Florida, Campbell allowed no base runners and struck out 6 in the first three innings, all 6 k’s were swinging. He was throwing 94-95 and Florida waived at every breaking ball out of the zone.
The 2nd time through the order Florida started putting the bat on the ball. Three up three down in the 4th but they all put it in play, then in 5th at about 55-60 pitches they started hitting him harder and he gave up two runs on two singles, a hit batter, and a wild pitch that scored a run.
So I don’t know if Campbell was really that good or it was just because Florida just has very undisciplined hitters. Florida’s offense just seems to be to try and jack bombs, they didn’t see breaking balls at all. If we can avoid chasing sliders we’ll get to Campbell. His record is just 5-6 in 16 starts and only 67 innings total so he gets pulled early a lot. The only guys left in arks pen are reindl and rammage and reindl was all over the place yesterday. We’ll probably be going against ramage for several innings. Their coach thought maybe Loseke could go an inning but wasn’t confident in that.
We’ve got Abel, Mulholland, Heimlich, and Chamberlain available today, Casey said Fehmel or Eisert are not likely. I wonder if we start Luke for 1 inning or 2, he was looking good through 4 on Monday. From Casey’s presser I think he is expecting 5 innings from Kevin. Then we could go Christian for an inning, maybe Pearce against a righty, and Mully to close it out. 93 degrees today at game time so good thing Kevin is from so-cal. Kevin faced the 6-7-8-9 hitters last night so the top of the order hasn’t seen the change up yet. Mully k’d the lead off hitter looking and then the two pitches to their 2-hole guy so nobody else has seen him.
Thanks, I figured you or Bill or ohio would do some work on this.
Didja notice the SEC guys I linked to above felt Campbell would have a LONG leash? I was in line with your analysis, he has a pattern of being pulled fairly early all season long………seems more likely in a do or die situation.
Speaking of short leashes, if Luke does see the mound even “Too Late” will not let him go far!
Sadly, Luke can’t be trusted beyond situational substitutions.
It was still the right call to throw him when we did. He’s the heart of the team, and the players don’t respond if he’s not leading the charge. You have to complete the ritual before you can expect any result, good or bad.
93 degrees…Beavs wearing black then?!?
Are we asking because of basic thermodynamics?
Or are we asking because of hocus pocus shit?
Bless the Lord!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZHreOzTfc
They asked the right fielder about the foul ball and he berated the reporter for even bringing it up. That guy is also their leadoff hitter who was whining about the clear strike 3 call on him from Mully in the bottom of the 9th. That guy is going to have last night in his head tonight.
He’s clearly a teammate who is going to need some pick-up from the rest of them. He put his lid on because he wanted to cry.
Funny thing is… it wasn’t his fault. Shaddy shad the bed.
Can I say that?
He was late to the play and would have had to make a good to great play to catch it if it was even his call. 1b was all over it… until 2b barged in for his glorious CWS-winning catch and ensuing dogpile. 1b could have still reached out and simply caught the damn thing. But 1b was stuck in the moment, looking at 2b like he was a ball hog.
I guess they don’t call ’em hogs fer nothin’?
WooPS!
Shaddy bumped the first baseman running by, I think that’s why he didn’t try to catch the pop-up. He looked at Shaddy rather than the ball.
It looked like he lost track of the ball at that moment
That’s what I saw.
He had a bead on it until he was distracted.
I was taught to go low and play the flub if distracted, not look at the guy who blew me off the play while having no clue.
Always eye the ball. Comunicate. Be the last level of defense if necessary.
More often, I see someone call it, only to admit they never saw it… only to watch the first guy reach out and snap it in… because it’s a fly ball… not a dogpile.
Shad the bed.
Always easier for the outfielder coming in than an infielder going out to make the play. The key is someone has to take charge of the play. If you’re that guy, then you better make the play.
The first two guys were depressing as hell, especially the second. But the others were decent, if subdued. I like Knight. He just dialed it in and said what was true. He really didn’t mean “Who cares?” like some might want to read that. He cares. What he meant is his team needs to shrug it off and play the next game.
He’s not wrong.
Heard Knight the same way, just flush it.
Yeah, Knight was channeling his inner Hemingway.
Hide the shotgun.
I was just gonna mention something about quitting.
Yikes.
Some guy blew you off? Yikes!
The emotions of baseball are real. These kids interviewed as well as they could be expected. They are competitors and Arkansas is a really, really good baseball team.
The interviews were terrible. She was leading with some soft, “Are you gonna be okay?” voice.
The one good question she asked was one she asked the third or fourth guy in about the third or fourth question.
“What did coach say?”
That should have led off every interview. It might have been hilarious, like every “person on the street” inteview is edited to be.
OT… I was a “person on the street” interview on a late night show once. They edited the fuck out of me. I still got applause, but it was for some minor point that could easily be called deflection.
Anyway, that question would have led to more open answers from the start. People are more comfortable when they can first coachspeak, then revise.
a whoopsie last night by ESECPN
https://i.imgur.com/A7sdQFJ.jpg
It was posted on the app before the game ended.
I wonder how many people they inhibited from following their stream beyond that. It was a poor business move.
Morning radio, Parker says Ark fans in RF were riding Larnach pretty hard all game……..till the b9 !!
Arky fan has never been great at much… except for selling cheap, plastic Chinese shit to America.
This just in from an AB correspondent on site last night:
Meh.
If you take heckling from fans seriously, then you aren’t a pro.
I’m not saying T didn’t do right. I’m saying the fans’ perception of classy is skewed. You do what you can to demoralize the opposition. When it doesn’t pan out, the player gets to stand proud.
That is all.
I don’t know, I find these SEC/Arky fans are a special kind of irritating. That’s probably a me thing though but damn it was nice to watch ‘loud clapper guy’ behind home plate sit on his hands at the end of the game.
Loud clapper guy would be disowned by them, judging their forums.
You’re probably annoyed by their gross entitlement.
It’s a thing now.
Not cool to taunt college athletes. Revenge is sweet.
Taunt who you want.
One of the consequences of taunting is that revenge is sweet.
It’s like the really really really poor argument some people think they have when they say some celeb/authority shouldn’t be shouted down when s/he says or does something absolutely stupid.
I’m sorry.
I didn’t know free speech precluded you having to be an adult who has to weather the consequences of your speech.
After the game it could be heard by a little Arky fan, “Paw, what just happened?” Paw turned to his son and said, “well son, you’ll have to just ask your Maw errr I mean your sister.” And with that, the little fella walked away from the ball park with a smile while listening to his favorite tune…the theme song from the movie Deliverance.
Really?
We’re making incest jokes now?
Is this considered wise?
From Eggers PT:
Casey said someone texted him a screen shot of ESPN’s home page proclaiming “Arkansas, 2018 national champions.” The “Mother Ship” jumped the gun on that one.
He smiled and shook his head.
“Well,” he said, “gotta finish.”
“We got frustrated tonight,” Casey said as he walked out of TD Ameritrade, “but we never gave in.
“No matter what happens, we’re not going to give in. I can promise you that.”
This guy needs to pull his head out of his ass long enough to get a breath of fresh air to clean the bias out…
https://sports.yahoo.com/luke-heimlich-case-one-baseball-teams-pursuit-full-logical-landmines-133357057.html
Didn’t report anything new, just re-hashed the Moron’s reporting.
Who cares? This team isn’t about Luke anymore. He’s cracked during the CWS. Let him hold a clipboard and cheer on the boys as they play, but he shouldn’t sniff the field today.
I’d still start Abel, hope he can go 4, and hope that between Chamberlain, Pearce, Gambrell, Fehmel, and Mulholland we can find enough to get the final 5 innings.
Need to jump on them early and have them go to their bullpen quickly and then it’ll be all heart from that point on. Guys giving everything they have and hopefully the Beavs hoisting their 3rd CWS trophy.
Go Beavs!
No way that Fehmel would go before Luke since Bryce pitched yesterday.
Luke did throw three shutout innings on Monday and it wasn’t like he threw 129 pitches like Nickerson, he threw 86. It might be short but I expect him to be on the mound at some point today.
Gambrell gave up 5 runs in 1/3 of an inning against WSU and since then has only pitched an inning vs San Diego and none in the postseason so I don’t think he’s on their list for today.
Copy-cat article. Interestingly, the comments seem to have changed from “hang him” to some sort of understanding of the complex issue.
My guess is that Luke asks for the ball today. He’s got nothing to lose now. Abel, Pearce, Mulholland follow.
Don’t use Chamberlain, threw 90 plus pitches two days ago. Don’t ruin his arm.
PC should tell him “No.”
I’d throw me right now before going back to Luke. My 60 mph fastball would certainly have Arky batters off balance.
Luke will get the ball if the Beavs up by 10 or down by 10…..
Isn’t Able the obvious choice? Only threw like 20 pitches. He’ll start, no?
https://www.kark.com/news/hog-championship-t-shirts-being-printed_20180627231246/1269271356
Are they not printing Beaver ones too? I thought they usually printed both for winner take all games so they would be ready. The joke was always about some kid in Somalia wearing a 1992 Blazers Championship shirt or the like.
They should sell them to hipsters. Hipsters like irony.
although we are the home team we are wearing the same gray unis as last night. Our starting pitcher must have picked those, I’m thinking Abel.
New thread up. Has website speed improved? It should be better.
Still can’t figure out the Twitter recruiting issue. It works if you click on it but for some reason isn’t loading the tweets inline.
It’s still a little slow to load but about half the time I get the regular page like always with the menus and Twitter feed at the top right and then the other half I get some strange simple blue and white page that has the twitter feed all the way at the bottom. This is all on my phone, Android/chrome.
Thanks for feedback. Try logging out then back in. Sounds like a cache issue.