Some interesting names. Obviously his son, but these two guys are now on the radar:
With that kind of talent and good coaching, the turnaround could happen fast.
Some interesting names. Obviously his son, but these two guys are now on the radar:
With that kind of talent and good coaching, the turnaround could happen fast.
Got to hand it to WT, he has made some pretty good moves filling out his coaching staff.
Someone remind Wayne that you can’t recruit to Corvallis.
As time goes on, it is clear Riley is the only guy who can’t recruit to Corvallis…
Rather than “turning over every rock to find diamonds in the rough” – i.e. the incompletely combusted charcoal briquets Riley often secures early commitments from – Tinkle is going for the more polished diamonds off the shelf? Hmm. Interesting approach.
One person at OSU described Tinkle as 75% Pat Casey 25% Mike Riley….it will be nice to see Tinkle’s performance exert at least implicit pressure on Riley and demonstrate you can be an ethical good guy AND recruit and win.
A few player additions like these, combined with curiosity, could put some people in Gill.
I still have a perhaps misplaced hope that the current members of the men’s bb team will have some ability – Daniel Gomis , N’diaye, Duvivier didn’t just wander into the gym one day and ask if they could shoot around. No one is expecting anything of this year’s team, so I will be very, very interested to see how they perform with the new coaching situation.
Well, two of those players are the children of coaches and none of them are officially coming to OSU yet. Landing them is not much different than landing Isaac Seumalo. If we did land Tyler Dorsey (the #12 recruit in the country) then that would be a pretty historic signing for OSU in general I’m sure.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If I ever see Jay John on the street I will kick that POS in the junk.
My singular sadness during Coach Rob’s tenure was a couple years ago when Joe chased a ball out of bounds and made an effort to barely miss JJ as he was exiting the court.
That’s about it. I guess it’s all relative.
Yes he has! I was initially hesitant on his hiring when it was announced, but so far he has surprised me with his staff hires. Combined, Gottlieb, Rupp, Thompson, and Tinkle have over 60 years of coaching experience. That’s a lot compared to the other post Miller staffs. Hope he can get some recruits, improve the guys already in the program, and get those wins!
I think I posted this in another thread last week, but fits this topic well. Very impressed with the names being looked at, but as a Beaver fan, I can’t get too excited until I see some of these guys wearing orange and black and hitting the court.
Also, Stephen Thompson and Tres Tinkle would be awesome gets, but I’ve read that Stephen Thompson’s little brother is even more highly regarded, although only a Sophomore in high school. High school hoops in Corvallis should be fun to watch next year.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1650508&PT=4&PR=2
TheTyler Dorsey link reads thus: Oregon State, interest: none. So, why is he on the radar?
In the meantime, does anyone have news of Craig Robinson? I’m curious – I suppose the family had to wait in Corvallis until daughter Leslie graduated. CR is the epitome of “meaning well is not enough” – he simply couldn’t coach and wouldn’t bring in people who could help him.
Still, as pointed out in a previous post, most coaches, no matter how grim the situation do issue a bland, polite, insincere statement after being fired.
Tyler Dorsey is on the radar because he committed to Arizona, but has since decided to re-open. If Tinkle can get Dorsey, I’ll definitely be watching Basketball again.
“CR is the epitome of “meaning well is not enough” ” Maybe, but more than meaning well, CR struck me as having an entitlement attitude which got in the way of an honest and down to earth approach and to any self assessment of his own abilities.
The lack of any “bland, polite, insincere statement” from CR comes as no surprise.
Tinkle seems a bit more grounded and doesn’t (yet) give the impression of always having his guard up and needing to get in the final word.
Coach Rob was nothing more than he was. That was one of the good things about him. There was no entitlement. In fact, he proposed that OSU had an entitlement unrealized. And he got people to believe it.
Maybe people should stop and think about what they deserve instead of thinking there is something inherent other than what they think is inherent in their lives.
I’ll put this one out there just for fun:
Cliven Bundy has forever (obviously only prior to 20 years ago) stolen from you and me by using our resources for his gain.
He is a thief. There is no other way to explain his condition.
I welcome any alternate description of his condition. Dude is a welfare fraud to the umpteenth power. But I guess that makes him a teabag hero.
Just think that pothole in your road isn’t a tax? Go ahead and think that while you replace a tire and fix your suspension after you hit that hole… which was never fixed because you insisted on paying no taxes
Yeah… you smart.
Oh… oh… oh… unless you want to spend more than half our national revenues on “DEFENSE” spending. Then you are certainly a patriot and an AMERICAN worth waving a bumper magnet.
Yeah… this argument hasn’t been raging since Reagan, the extreme liberal, was in office.
All that junk said, Coach Rob was just a bad in-game coach. And the “if I’m fired” quip to end the season was way over the top.
Yup, CR was nothing more than what he was.
What he was was a guy with very very limited experience as a HC who didn’t think he needed help and was always ready to give a somewhat condescending speech about the performance, or lack thereof, of the team for which he was responsible. For me that spelled entitlement (as did the “if I’m fired” remark).
As always, just my opinion. And, BTW, I do recognize that his line of BS was largely responsible for the improved facility.
Oh whatever.
The troll wasn’t meant for you. It just seemed an opportune time to dump silly rhetoric on what looked like silly rhetoric.
I’m just waiting for the day someone somewhere types in “uppity” and actually presses . I know that’s what many people mean when they opine in various ways about various things. But they can’t be that stupid as a whole and be clever enough to keep their tongues for always.
Can they?
*presses
Damn!
< enter + a closed angle bracket
That ought to do it.
I like how Tinkle filled out the staff with guys with actual experience. Think it is a little early to call victory on the recruiting front.
Some Tres Tinkle and Stephen Thompson reading tweeted out by Connor today:
http://future150.com/hs/basketball-news/2014-nba-top-100-camp-session-2-standouts-12785
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_state_beavers_officiall_2.html
Connor Letourneau ?@ConnOregonian 2h
At this point, Stephen Thompson Jr. plans to stay in LA for his senior year of high school with his mom and brother.
IMO I think OSU has a better chance of landing Tres Tinkle than Thompson Jr. The two things though that could swing in OSU’s favor of landing either one or both is the new practice facility (thanks CR!) and immediate playing time vs. going to an Arizona or Duke and picking splinters out of your ass for 4 years.
2 SEC, ACC & Texas? I’ll take Texas. Go texassss.
fuck em all. the deck was already stacked against the west this year with 17 SEC and ACC teams invited. At this point I don’t give a shit who wins
Texas forces winner take all to get to the championship series. Winner over Vandy today 4-0 on just 5 hits. Vandy starter didn’t get out of the first after 2 BB and a hit batter with nobody out. Vandy was lucky to get out with just 2 runs scored as 3 Texas batters struck out. b2b triples in the 2nd finished the scoring.
Yup
Politics and baseball make for strange bedfellows
Mike Parker interviews coach Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bPIzP6Je0Y&feature=youtu.be
I found this topic pretty cool. I especially liked the idea that “organizing” is a dirty word. It makes sense. Organization becomes a justification for cluttering our lives with useless crap. One could even call it a metaphor for much more than just home-bound clutter.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/05/26/the_minimalists_everything_that_remains_is_a_new_memoir_about_living_with.html?wpisrc=obnetwork
Then again, one could say it’s a lot easier to organize if it’s not just rearranging crap.
A lot like shedding all your debt and going to a cash budget.
Messi is just amazing. The first time Iran marks him with only one man is in stoppage time, and he makes them pay.
Well, this is probably more appropriate on the previous thread but is the theme of the blog after all.
http://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx?item=1
Are You Too Angry?
There are psychological tests that measure the intensity of angry feelings, how prone to anger you are, and how well you handle it. But chances are good that if you do have a problem with anger, you already know it. If you find yourself acting in ways that seem out of control and frightening, you might need help finding better ways to deal with this emotion.
Using Humor
“Silly humor” can help defuse rage in a number of ways. For one thing, it can help you get a more balanced perspective. When you get angry and call someone a name or refer to them in some imaginative phrase, stop and picture what that word would literally look like. If you’re at work and you think of a coworker as a “dirtbag” or a “single-cell life form,” for example, picture a large bag full of dirt (or an amoeba) sitting at your colleague’s desk, talking on the phone, going to meetings. Do this whenever a name comes into your head about another person. If you can, draw a picture of what the actual thing might look like. This will take a lot of the edge off your fury; and humor can always be relied on to help unknot a tense situation.
Tinkle/Thompson…..sign your damn boys or go home! If you can’t get them to play for your team then I’m done with Beavs hoops! This “tourney albatross” needs to end and “the sons” look like a sooner than later possibilty to make that happen.
A school called “Northern State” averaged just 600 fans less per game than Oregon State in hoops attendance and more than Washington State this season. I do admire Tinkle for taking this on despite my snarky post above.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/eight-notable-figures-from-the-ncaa-s-annual-attendance-report-173354423.html
Highly entertaining game between Ghana and Germany ending in a 2-2 draw. Makes the US victory look pretty good.
… except that life for us would have been easier if the BRD didn’t feel like playing passive shit ball against their second opponent in the World Cup… yet again.
Now we need a draw against Portugal at least. We needed such before hand. But now it’s essential.
Third baseman for Texas is having a miserable game. End of 3 Vandy leads 2-0 after 3 Texas errors.
I recognize neither of those countries.
*I did live in one such territory named after one of the mythical places you mention. It was neither mythical nor… um anything resembling good. I understand it has now become a shit-hole worthy of running away if you ever get the chance.
Eggers reports Casey, in his best Riley style, thinks the Goss expansion is “neat”.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/224922-83477-casey-pac-12-champion-beavers-must-bounce-back
Several comments on who may fill the voids now existing.
Don’t like the artificial turf in the outfield idea at all. Rather tgat get spent on upgraded football endzones. Also I don’t get why some if these stadiums gave giant green boards behind center field like we see at Goss. Louisville put their logo on theirs at it looks great and really sells the brand. If baseball saves the money by not doing dumb sounding artificial turf for the outfield then they easily could open next season with a nice size Beaver or OSU logo behind center field.
There is actually thought to leaving the outfield blank, especially center so ad to make harder for the hitter to have depth perception. If you put logos up, put them offset from the center.
Texas pitcher can’t get the third out in the b10. With two outs he gives up a single, BB and HBP. An infield single scores the game winner for Vandy. Slow roller to SS.
Dammit! I guess the key for any team to succeed is for me to root against them. I suck!
Eggers on the OSU hiring of Deputy AD Massari:
“• Why in the world would Mark Massari walk away from a job as athletic director at a Division-I school — Cal Santa Barbara, no less — to return to Oregon State as deputy AD?
Several reasons. One, Massari misses football, since the Gauchos have no team. Two, the Napa, Calif., native and former Sacramento State middle linebacker has family here, with his parents retired in Tigard and brother Matt a lawyer in Portland. Three, Massari and wife Kim feel Corvallis is a great place to raise their children — Madeline, 10, and Joey, 8.
And there’s his good relationship with OSU AD Bob De Carolis, who hired Massari and with whom he worked from 2002-08.
“I like the opportunity to do something at the Pac-12 level,” Massari says. “I love working with Coach (Mike) Riley on projects such as Valley Football Center and helping put together a brand recruits and fans identify with.”
Massari, 45, was heavily involved with the Raising Reser and Sports Performance Center projects and wants to aid De Carolis in getting the west side of the football stadium renovated. Massari is understanding of the way old-timers talk about the way things used to be, but wants to help OSU athletics move forward and grow in the future.
“The next generation of Beavers are from the (2001) Fiesta Bowl era,” Massari says. “They don’t know the past. They expect success. You don’t want to give them revisionist history.
“We’re having some of our greatest years in several sports — baseball, gymnastics, wrestling. Football is always respectable. Our brand is this: We’ll never get outworked, and we’ll never get outcoached. If we lose, we tip our hat. That’s the Beaver way. The fans respect that work ethic. I’m really excited about that part of it. I hope I can help with, ‘Here’s where we want to go, and look at what the university has to offer.’ “
I continue to believe that nothing is more important for OSU athletics than getting rid of Bob De Carolis. The sooner, the better.
In an article a couple of weeks ago, Eggers had this to say about the hiring of Massari: “Not sure if Massari will be hired as an heir apparent to De Carolis, but he is an accomplished administrator who knows Oregon State. It will be a welcome addition.” http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/223427-83469-eggers-notes-and-comments-on-the-gamut
I don’t have inside information on the Massari hiring, but it seems highly likely that Massari has been promised he will get promoted to OSU AD when De Carolis leaves. That’s the most obvious explanation for why Massari would “walk away from a job as athletic director at a Division-I school — Cal Santa Barbara, no less — to return to Oregon State as deputy AD.”
I’m hopeful that Massari’s hiring will bring us closer to that happy day when OSU says goodbye to BDC.
Sharing your hope and belief here.
Any chance we’ll be seeing some of your in depth practice analysis this Fall?
Yes. Planning to free up time this August to attend at least a few OSU football practices.
Eggers articles are so much better than anything in The Oregonian. It’s kind of interesting, I go to an agregate website called “Beaver Sports Now’ to check out articles and Portland Tribune stories about Beav sports rarely show up there anymore (Angry’s post often do). It’s too bad, I think some great reporting gets missed.
Eggers experience shows, especially in comparison to the ever changing line-up at the O.
And on twitter he has an occasional good quote about the “most interesting man in the world”. EG: “new cars actually INCREASE in value when he drives them off the lot.”
Eggers articles are clearly the best- but with football in particular it’s because he’s always got the inside scoop from Riley. That relationship gives him a huge advantage.
I will say though- Gina Mizell has been doing a very good job. She asks a lot of good questions- not just the general fluff questions, or obvious questions like position battles. Questions like plans to use RBs – single workhorse or committee? How do the coaches plan to use depth/experience at TE in game planning this year? And so on. Connor is not bad either.
I think Cliff Kirkpatrick was the worst though…reading his stuff gave me the impression the guy had never watched a game of football in his life. Like the extent of his football knowledge came from a cursury skim of a Wikipedia article.
Perhaps Ed Ray is more involved in the AD than is readily apparent. I wondered that with the abruptness of the CR firing, as well.
From Will’s dad: http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/toddlers-tiaras
“Check out Will’s little sister Bonnie-Bell Sue. My wife wastes all kinds of money on travel, makeup, dance lessons and dresses for our daughter. That money should have been spent on getting Will into the NFL. Oh well.
I am coming to Oregon in August for camp. Coach Riley really appreciates my daily input. He has assigned a grad assistant to work exclusively with me. It looks like Will has secured a starting spot on the O-line!!
Jack, old buddy, can I stay at your place again? I like cats”
Exclusive access to a grad assistant?……..Don’t get uppity with that kind of talk around Jack!
I know you like cats. We at OSU call you guys by another name, and you guys are big… um… cats, if that’s the case. I’ll bet decades of experience have taught you how to mingle among the big p… er… cats.
Just nod if that’s true… then throw in something denigrating about my sister or mother or daughter or whatever Ducks think is funny these days. We’ll call your act Big Cat Riot. That way we won’t run into trademark problems with misogyny central over on educk.
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140621&content_id=80998346&fext=.jsp&vkey=recap&sid=t581
Making his pro debut, Jace Fry retired the Mustangs in order while collecting a pair of strikeouts in the seventh.
So being a US soccer fan is a lot like being a Beaver fan. Letting a landmark victory slip through your hands.
That really sucked eggs.
Does anyone know if Banker is in Brazil? JB
Does anybody care?
OT… I haven’t been this excited about getting mail since I was a kid.
Wednesday? Thursday? Out earlier? I can’t wait.
http://thirdmanstore.com/jack-white-lazaretto-12-vinyl
Meanwhile, I’ve got YT to get by… something I didn’t have as a kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI-95cTMeLM&list=RDqI-95cTMeLM
Wow! Apparently Jack White is a corporate crap ball… wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a corporate crap ball.
It’s probably not him, but he’s obviously not Eddie Vedder when it comes to sharing his artistry. A simple link which promotes his work and supports purchasing the vinyl should never be nixed by the net nazis.
And since you’ve pissed me off… Jack (or Jack’s minion)… it would behoove you to find a video editor who can synch the music with the action. “High Ball Stepper” is all sorts of messed up.
Obligatory link to make the shits look this way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkcGuZHPbKk&list=RDqI-95cTMeLM&index=3
That really pisses me off.
This makes me feel better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXS4qSZS6zE
Walter Jones transferring, Tyler Perry (TE) retiring – Think the Stanton-at-OT experiment will get cancelled?
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_state_beavers_receiver_3.html
Jones apparently had speed, so I’m disappointed he’s leaving. I’m not sure Bolden’s going to pan out (though early I thought he was going to be a difference maker).
Other than Bolden (whose speed appears overstated to me), who’s left with speed? Hunter Jarmon? Hoping more than before that Villaman can qualify.
Also, USC offering 4-year scholarships for “athlete’s security:” Will this have a major impact on recruiting and make it even more difficult for the Rileys (Riley – not OSU or Corvallis) of the world?
http://www.oregonlive.com/pac-12/index.ssf/2014/06/new_4-year_usc_scholarship_policy_called_a_game_ch.html
Someone on Pure-Orange is claiming that more WR will be leaving.
We have Mullaney, Bolden and Gilmore returning with experience. And Jarmon and Hill… and maybe Villamin as RS. That means it’s pretty open for Guyton, Sanders and Hawkins to get fall reps and show they can step in when needed.
Mullaney will be the breakout player this year. He seems to be snakebit in the spring. But remember he didn’t participate at all in spring 2013. At least his illness didn’t keep him from doing so this spring. After missing the spring last year he ended up having the typical OSU soph WR season the next up-and-comers always seem to have. And that was fighting through turf toe for most of the late season.
Bolden does have a knack for getting open. And he does have edge speed on the fly sweep… even if I think his stride is really loose. Gilmore is good and Hill is serviceable. Villamin qualifying would be huge news, but he may be the one rumored to be leaving (speculation on my part).
I think (more hoping at this point) that Jarmon and Guyton will turn out to be studs. And I think Sanders and Hawkins will both find ways to participate with the ranks as thin as they are.
That being said, I always say I never worry about WR or QB at OSU. I think we have quality if not quantity. There is value to be found in each of these players. And that’s understanding that they are also young and inexperienced. It’s the eternal OSU problem. We lose so much experience at every position group every couple years. But the WR group does have talent enough to play beyond their experience.
On the bright side… we do seem to finally have depth in the middle of the D… both quality and quantity. I’m thinking we have the opportunity to have our best D since 2006. And I think it will be more flexible than that D was. I don’t know haw the numbers per game will pan out with so many option teams out there presently. But I like the depth on the front seven and the experience (and coaching) behind them. Like the option of old, you take away the dive, the edge and the seam… and you start showing that it can be beaten. Spreading it out has only gotten the ball to those spots more quickly, optimizing mistakes. It’s a brilliant wrinkle. But it’s still the option.
Agree, there is a decent chance that the D will be the best it’s been in several years. In addition to the front 7 and their coaches I feel good about the DB’s, especially with Perry’s coaching.