6pm on Pac-12.
Go Beavs! (although with the Robbins news, I’m afraid another CBI would be the ceiling for this season)
I’m waiting to see what Tinkle can come up with to counter only having 6 players.
I read an interesting comment on the last thread where it was suggested to bring in a graduate that still has eligibility. Not sure if something like this is even do-able or if there is any such player around that would help us on such short notice and not having practiced Tinkle defense. Maybe a big-time shooter would work?
It’s still an interesting premise which I’m sure is being, or has been, explored.
Let’s see what he comes up with. Even if it’s to tough out 9 more games with 6 players, still we have a much better team than anticipated and a great foundation for next year and beyond.
Greg Anthony might be available
Especially if our coach were Dana Altman
I think his eligibility is used up.
Down a man and on the road against an increasingly confident conference opponent. Not a good recipe for us yet.
The game remains the same. Make shots, and we win. Struggle from the floor, and we have to be D monsters to have a chance.
Tinks needs to start using Cheikh. I know he’s a liability on offense, but he’ll remain so until he gets time. No time like the present.
And we can’t see any Rastatter, Brill or Harris on the floor. I was watching the Wazzu game against Nikegon, and the announcers were praising Harris and his crew because refs were “doing a great job when they weren’t being talked about.” Mind you, they were doing all this gushing during some weird official timeout where Harris was reviewing a call that had no business being recalled. The announcers were confused and speculated they were trying to correct the clock. They weren’t. They never gave an explanation for the more than two minute break in play. But the announcers could gush about the officials at this time… not even realizing the very words they used to describe them were describing what they were doing to make themselves very poor officials. And the announcers spent the whole game saying things like, “I didn’t see a foul there,” and, “ticky-tack.”
We had Rastatter against UW, and he did his usual suck. That was Harris at Wazzu. He was pretty awful. I expect we’ll get both plus Brill… and probably Eggers as the scorer.
He really is a baller.
Addicted to crack ho’s.
I know WT is in the “honeymoon phase” and walks on water, but except for the excitement of slipping by Arizona, I think the games are as boring as hell to watch. Granted he is working with an ill-assorted mish-mash of players but the “Go Defense” first approach is a tried and true recipe and acknowledgment of inferior talent.
I”m afraid that WT has become used to working with less than top-tier level players and has become accustomed to this grind it out approach. It reminds me of his Montana teams playing a 16 seed in the NCAA’s. I don’t see how, in the long run, he attracts today’s player that loves to run the court and put up lots of shots.
Granted he has a good crop coming in next year, but seriously, how hard is it to recruit within your own and your assistant’s families? JB
PS: President Ray is thinking of giving BDC a bonus, based on the reduction of angry emails sent to his office and the up tick in fund raising. Who would have guessed that a new football coach a new basketball coach and a winning women’s team would placate Beaver Nation. Thanks BDC from the Pres!
This is bad, try again.
Ouch!! -4 with more to come. Honeymoon rules…. first semi-skeptical post ever in WT era. JB
Well, yer trouble is, you are trying to find fault and cant find any. His defense first is an acknowledgement of inferior talent?? Duhhh…. A good recruiting class including a couple coaches’ kids is a slam dunk? Duhhh… So then he has talent and can run and play some offense…and recruit even better….
Face it — he is doing more with what he has than probably anyone else we could have got and has talent coming in. The players believe, playing that intense defense, and they are buying into his system. Its all a formula for success. Worry about it going to hell when it does, if it ever does. All taken together, its a huge turnaround from CR. What point is there in being skeptical?
He must think these days were more entertaining:
enormity of the moment
I tend to agree but the best teams every year in the NCAA play solid team D. College basketball is all played with inferior talent. Players with talent leave early. Unless you are Kentucky, you will never keep offensive talent.
They get, but but don’t keep it.
I think the team is fun to watch. Plus wait until we get more athletic players that can make more baskets
“Who would have guessed that a new football coach… would placate Beaver Nation.”
Most of us? 😉
Very incorrect… except that you think our games are boring as hell to watch. When we’re not shooting well, when anyone isn’t shooting well, it can be bad. But seeing the science in action can be a beautiful thing even without the scoring. Taking good shots off good passes is the first step. We make those shots at home. We miss on the road. It’s a matter of experience.
Now take your Ducks as the contrast. They play iso-kick and no defense. That, to me is ugly ball. It looks about as much like a team playing as do several cars driving 20mph too fast through a school zone. All the drivers are individuals moving in the same direction, but there’s going to eventually be a wreck.
“Defense first” is the foundation. Where CR failed was a move away from that. Good talent, no talent, mediocre talent… it doesn’t matter. The best coaches are the ones who spend the beginning of every year teaching the fundamentals. Coach K takes time in his fall camp to teach the importance of ball fakes in his offense. He will spend five minutes lecturing his players about how faking a pass to the left then passing right is important in many subtle ways. Then he runs the shell for ten minutes until he thinks everyone shows him they understand. Tony Bennet might tell you something about what he thinks about your “no D” idea.
Pandering to 17 and 18 year-olds who think they’re the next LeBron is a sure way to never be elite. The elite play D first. The elite have control freaks as head men. The best hoops dynasty ever, where elite talent flocked without question, began their first practice every fall by watching their head coach teach them to put on socks and lace up shoes in the “proper” way.
If you don’t want to play hard D all game, you don’t want to be elite.
OT: Whittingham gets a 4 year extension. so much for that kerfuffle around Christmas that had him leaving and GA in turn.
Didn’t see the Beavs winning this before Robbins went out and don’t see them winning it now. I’ve said it many times, this team isn’t beating anyone outside of Gill.
Probably a good bet until it isn’t anymore.
It isn’t anymore.
Except for tonight. And other games.
Yeah I see us losing as well. It will actually take an enormous coaching job to keep this team together. This could be the start of a very long downward spiral. They had limited depth with Robbins, now they have none. Teams should be able to wear us down, and we will miss Robbins offensive contributions that this team is desperately trying to come up with. If WT can at least keep them winning at home that would be a very successful season.
I’m calling a Beavs win in Pullman tonight. Confidence is high. WSU is awful on D
It’s too hard to know now that they have 6 players. Kind of ruins everything they had going. With Robbins I think this would be a win.
Love the enthusiasm, but perhaps you should switch to 70 proof napkins.
70 proof is for pussies!
My point exactly LOL.
FWIW, the old dude sitting in the front row at Gill with the Minnesota sweatshirt on at the rasslin’
match was not me.
The team will definitely play faster as they acquire depth and talented depth at that. Those freshmen are going to want to play fast, and the defense creates transition opportunities. For now, I’m more than satisfied with the approach we have to watch, which gives our team a chance to win more ball games. I was at the Arizona game, my hands were shaking after. If that’s not exciting, I don’t know what is.
I’m just still kinda upset and in a “F*ck you Vic” type of mood because he couldn’t lay off until after the season.
I was at the game with my granddaughter who told me afterward that all I said after the game was over was ” … oh my God, … oh my God, … oh my God … “
FOOTBALL: Blair Cavanaugh to Portland State. The times they are a changin’.
I believe he was buds with Isaac, not that Isaac would step down to PSU, but still, glad brother Andrew has that GA spot.
Whatever.Walk on, walks off. He was good at CHS, but was never going to play at OSU, not many ‘vertically challenged’ WRs playing in the PAC. Maybe coach CAV was the reason he was on the team to begin with and GA told him thanks, but, uh…
Is tonight finally our turn to have some fourth-string nobody play lights out from out of nowhere? How many times had we seen that happen to us?
Maybe Tanner Sanders hits a few threes?
OTOH, Matt Dahlen is sportin’ a 100% FG record so far, so maybe he is the guy.
Going to take a lot of scoring from the walkons to win this game. Robbins loss is huge. That’s about 25-30 minutes to replace with walk ons.
So what happens now that Robbins is on suspension, does (can) Tinkle dress a practice player to take the spot?
Otherwise there is only 12 on the bench.
What a difference a defense makes. Cougs with 7 points 9 min in. 17-7 good guys.
Hmmm. Long way to go but maybe Whiskey was right? OSU isn’t going to let Wazzu get out and run
still worried about depth down the stretch
not drinking your 200-proof yet
You wont see 200 proof unless you are in a lab and make it. Ethanol is hygroscopic and takes water from anywhere to establish the 95% azeotrope. Making 100% requires distilling it in a closed system from a mixture that removes the water. Then it has to be kept closed or it will take water from the air. I think I recall that correctly. Never tried drinking 100% but did drink the 95 that could be got from the stockroom. Parties in the chem dept had some heavy drinking…lol.
rsteve503 wins the Literal Award 😛
No, he went Walter White on us
He’s not wrong… and now we know why tare labs always smell so good.
Drinking 95 is a trip. I gave some to a GF to see her reaction, but she was smart and knew what she was doing — work up a bunch of saliva first, and it mixes with the 95 before going down yer throat. I would work up to it by mixing it and drinking that, then add 95 until you worked up to the pure 95. Damn, you could get really wasted…
The brand of 190 I’ve drunk is called Diesel.
Made the mistake of pouring it in plastic cups. They melted while we were daring each other to go first. Then we were dumb enough to get glasses and drink it.
Close enough for me
Why can’t Payton 2 start getting to the basket?
25-16 beavs halftime
Jalen Moore as anticipated committed tonight
Congrats to Upland (CA) DB Jalen Moore @Curlyboyjalen committing tonight. Here is his film http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4427577/jalen-moore …
I just want to thank god for everything! I’m officially committed to the University of Oregon State! #GoBeavs #beavs
Do we have to change to USO now?
25 – 16!!!!! WTF???
Wazzu is averaging 36.5 points in the first half of the last two games.
That’s not bad.
They averaged 16 in the first half of this game….
Quick 6-0 run to start the 2nd half. Beavs by 15, 31-16
GP2 steal and Dunk!
That defense, that GPII steal and dunk on the inbounds pass, that was boring. Yep, defense is boring. /sarc
it’s not entertaining unless the other team’s lighting it up
OIC, watching your opponent score 75+ per game, and your team losing in the process, is more entertaining…gotcha!
need long possessions to mitigate depth
This is a team that scored 57 in the first half against the ‘ucks and here the Beavs held them to 16. I’ll say it again. WOW!!!
like I said. Neither of those teams that took the court in Pullman Thursday night play defense worth a shit. So far Coogs have shot 22% in this game
BTW, can I just say, I like parquet? Puts that shit in eug to shame.
“The court is unique” – duck fan
“That court is ugly as shit” – everyone else
“Your clothes are ugly as shit” – everyone else
Comeon, guys, you can do it! Keep the system going! GO BEAVS!!
why does the score read 40-31? It is 41-31. Olaf’s was a 3.
Fouls: Beavs 14, Cougs 7
Omfg! That hook by Lacy was blatant. No call. WTF?
Won’t matter. Make free throws and this one is over
That “daddy’s boy” taunt by the cougs at GP2 would be a lot more effective if he wasn’t the best player on the court
and/or if his dad wasn’t S-I’s college basketball player of the year, all-nba, NBA defensive team 9-10 times and the only PG to win defensive player of the year(?)….WTF is the insult?
Shit, coug fan even cougs an insult.
8 point lead, 2:05 to go. Just hold on for a bit longer…
They got this
Way to go Swami
Beavs go wire-to-wire!
drink away, whiskey
give it up cougs, you’re prolonging the defeat
62-47 final. I hate to say it you degenerates, but Whiskey called it
I’ll buy you a napkin next home game.
We will be at the UCLA game Thursday. Both games next weekend are very winnable. Beavs finish the weekend tied for 4th
Hope Morris-Walker keeps this up. We could use three point shooting like that now Robbins is suspended.
He has always been capable. He is likely the best scoring talent CR ever recruited. He just needs to wake from his slumber.
What’s nice is that he had to subjugate all that talent and play the D role for the last year and a half.
Remember when Whiskey said he was garbage?
Yep. Said the same thing about Olaf. I can admit I was wrong
It’s like that ESPN3 PSA they keep showing with that aluminum can.
To some people I look like garbage, but with good coaching (er, recycling!) I can one day be a decent player (er, stadium!)
Olaf WAS garbage, no way to see his improvement coming, imo
Testament to the new coaching staff. Turning poop into power. WT DESERVES to be in consideration for national head coach of the year.
Talking heads on the postgame show on Pac-12 networks. I dunno who the dude was but he said, 17 games in and Oregon St is 12-5. If they were 5-12 it would still be considered progress. Expectations were that low.
Whose expectations were those?
Are you saying I am otherworldly?
No, you said it yourself.
The ball’s still in your court.
Take your otherworldly ball outta here…
Hey, a split on the ROAD! The team is still moving forward. Eat yer heart out, Robbins, you ….
Smoke yer heart out. Although, edible is the way to go.
PBH, you sucked as a head football coach and now you prove you know nothing about basketball!
Congrats to Coach Tinkle for his first conference road win. Only took two tries
At this rate, I’m afraid some school is going to offer tinkle more money after this season!!
I cant see him tempted by that. With talent coming in, and the existing team buying into his coaching, this is a great opportunity for him. Really build something significant. Maybe in a few years he is bought out and away, but I expect him to stick for a while, anyway.
With us so short handed, he is sure performing a miracle!
Not so much worried about that. Reasons: The way these “new” coaches have the attitude that this is the place the want to be, coaches sons are coming here, that alone should keep them here for 4 years. I don’t think its going to be hard to keep them here with the upgrades coming down the line.
WT and the other coaches seem to be into this heart and soul. There was a quick clip after the Arizona game as WT was leaving for the locker room. Looked as if he was crying.
After recruiting his son to play for him. Right.
Calipari would do it.
Jay Irvine got bumped to a 3-star.
Where did you see the Moore commit?
In this thread @ ~6:56 by beaverKman
Ah, Jalen Moore, saw that, some reason I was thinking David Moore. Derp.
David Moore supposedly wants to make his decision this May. Gonna be tough to stay the favorite if those other big-time schools with interest offer him. He’s supposed to be a 4 star once they do their re-evaluations.
That… and we don’t have an airport.
Thank you Nebraska.
PBUH (praise be unto huskers)
PBTTPB (praise be to the poor bastards)
BBBGPBFYA (Blah, Blah, Blah .. Good Point But Fuck You Anyway!)
Imo WT is well on his way to coach of the year. Either that or magician of the year. OR both!
Just win more games.
Krystkowiak took a hit tonight getting demolished by the mildcats
Great win tonight.
Two double doubles too..
I must recognize the prognostication genius of WSN. I owe you an apology and a single barrel napkin.
PS. Please pick the Packers.
Wish I could. Seahawks/Patriots sb. Thanks for the props, no apology necessary
You all wanna know? This one to me was a no brainer. Ernie Kents teams have never been known for playing D. All about the offense and getting out in transition. Even during the Two Luke’s days at Oregon. I knew if the Beavs could limit the cougs transition offense and dictate tempo, they’d be alright. They did just that
I don’t understand why teams don’t drive more against the beavs and foul out all the starters….that’s what I’d do if a team had 6 players.
I think the good teams and coaches might start trying that approach in the near future. Ernie Kent isn’t smart enough to figure that out
They would stand the risk of charging fouls because of the good defense. Granted it’s not as likely as a block or shooting foul.
I’m bringing in some 101 for wsn on Thursday in the new Nutria flask my sis gave me for Xmas! Just has to find me…. 😉
Go ahead… drive against a zone… because passing to the dead spots isn’t more effective.
Duvivier = 40 minutes
GP2 = 40 minutes
LM-W = 38 minutes
Can they keep that up for 8 more games? Or 13? Or 14?
I don’t see how. LM-W, especially, looked like the tank was empty.
Shaft, Gomis & Reid were between 20 & 25
They’re 19 & 20 year old kids, of course they can if they control the tempo. And unlike MR and CR, WT will use his time outs strategically.
My email is getting a notification every time someone posts. Never happened before. I reregistered because I couldn’t remember my username and password. I didn’t see how to change that on the dashboard so I don’t get emails when someone posts. What gives? How do I change that setting?
nevermind. Found it. It was when posting from my phone. Apparently I fucked something up. Shocking. Carry on all……
Uncheck notify me under the submit comment button.
that box isn’t checked
That’s what she said.
Does anything smell better than a couple of pork butts after two hours in the smoker?
Keep your BBW fetish to yourself please
Are you referring to the pork butts that are in the “Walmart Shoppers” e-mails that are floating around the web?
No dude, homemade in a Cookshack smoker with apple and cherry wood.
Go Pack Go! 16-7 after 3
The essence of patchouli after a hot yoga class
I hate ucelypus in the sauna after yoga
Scoring is coming.
Read somewhere recently that Thompson Jr is averaging around 27 ppg this season, and saw a state line for that Gligorije guy that showed him putting up 30 pts and 16 reb in a recent game. haven’t hear much on the other guys this season other than Eubanks is a shot blocking fool.
You don’t know how hard it has been for me not to say, “I always do that when I score”. My nasty, filthy mind…I just love it!
(Not sure if this is a known visit for next weekend so thought I’d add it here)
Re: Syracuse DE commit, Keonnis Davis
Stephen Bailey @Stephen_Bailey1 · 7m 7 minutes ago
Davis is visiting Oregon State next weekend and considering visiting NC State (recently offered), South Florida and Florida.
Does this remind you of anyone? – Last night’s statement from Ernie Kent. “This team had a monster win on Thursday and you had them in an environment here, mentally they were just not where they needed to be, which is why they didn’t shoot the ball well, quite frankly.”
“We saw it, we tried to guard against it, we talked about it,” he continued. “But this team is in uncharted territories from where they’ve been the last couple years so as much as they have to handle the adversity going through some losses and the adversity of the road, they also have to handle the adversity of winning.”
Coaching differences aside, I’m so happy for WT and statements like, “they played their asses off.”
enormity of the moment……..
So are you putting on the green & yellow to root for the webbies against the dawgs tonight?
New tradiiton, eh?
I almost spelled it tradition, but not quite…
Eff the ducks and hussies
no purple either?
“Coaching differences aside, I’m so happy for WT and statements like, ‘they played their asses off.'”
Effort > Excuses
Have you seen a bigger collapse in 5 min as the packers?
Yes, do I need to post it again? 🙂
This comes to mind
Start of second half of webbies @ dawgs tonight in Seattle. From up 10 to down 5 in a little over 5 minutes…maybe a lot over 5 minutes!
Hey, whiskey, the Beavs have a minimum of 14 games left in the season, including at least one in the Pac-12 Tournament.
Using your power(s) as the mystical & amazing swami, how many wins do you project from those 14 games?
What say you, Jack?
Not having the wisdom and otherworldliness of the AB sages I have to guess… so… here goes…10.
My glasses always look a little rosy…..and neck stuck out for beheading….
Damn, 10?!? Methinks that could mean the big dance….hard to wrap my tiny mind around that!
I think I would be very pleased with 7. We need no more bad breaks like Robbins, though…
Sure amazing what coaching can do.
Yes. Anymore suspensions or injuries would hurt. The margin for error is already razor thin for the guys
Can’t predict pac 12 tourney until match ups are determined but for the final 13 regular season conference games.
Wins: ucla, usc, wsu, wash, Colorado, oregon and at USC
Losses: at Arizona, at ucla, at Stanford
Swing games: at asu, at cal, utah
Swing games are the key. These could go either way. Robbins is eligible to return for utah. Without him I think that game is a sure loss even at home. I’ll go out on a limb and say Beavs lose at home to utah, and they’ll split the other two. So, 8 wins is my prediction
Pretty much the way I see it as well, except your “swing games” were wins in my book.
Something hard to account for is – will Robbins be game-ready when he returns or will he need a couple games to get back? I believe he is practicing on the scout/practice squad so maybe he’s fully back by second half of the Utah game. Looking back I guessed the 10 wins based on 13, not 14, games for the same reason you stated.
Also will his return “dis-joint” the rest of the team? They will have had 10 games without him to adjust to a new rotation. His return could mess that up.
Right now we’re all 0-0 so we will see….winning any will be tough on the team with only 6 players. And, even tougher to advance very far in the post-season with only 7.
Even if it’s 0-13, we still have a team that has exceeded all expectations for this season!
I can’t see this team losing the rest of their conference games. WT is doing too good of a job and deserves to be in the discussion for national coach of the year. But, as always, one injury or another suspension and everything is out the window. The loss of Robbins does hurt. and the margin for error just got even smaller. But we saw Saturday evening these guys can win a conference road game even going only 6 or 7 deep. That said I still don’t think WSU is in the upper half of the conference. Arizona, Utah and Stanford are head and shoulders above everyone else. Then there is a jumbled mess of 9 teams capable of beating up on each other.
Completely agree here. We are fortunate to only play Utah and Stanford once this season.
Yeah, injury and suspension could really derail the train. There is a limit to what the coaches can pull off. Another thing is getting too many fouls in any game. Refs are sometimes a bit nuts. Just one of the rotation fouling out could lose a game that would otherwise be won.
Smile on us, oh GBITS…
What say I? Talk about an archaic idiom. You been hanging out in British courts lately?
I agree with Whiskey except that I would both UCLA games in the swing category. They are so Jekyll and Hyde depending on how Looney plays. And I think we win two or three of the swings, making it 8 or 9.
We’ll need to win 10 to make the dance bubble. The Corban win will not count in the RPI or as a part of our overall record. So we’re really 11-5 right now. 10 wins will make us 20+ and still in single-digit losses before an eventual Pac Tourney loss puts us at 21-10.
It’s possible but not probable. I thought 14 to 17 with 5-8 leugue wins and 8th place in the Pac. I think we can do better than that now, even with the suspension.
with either of our predictions the beavs would be a lock for the NIT. I think most of us would take that
British courts…only Wimbledon. What fun, eh?
Beavs up to 88 in RPI after yesterdays games…………………..
Arizona, Utah and Stanford are clearly in at this point. UW’s weekend sweep put them squarely on the bubble. Everyone else has work to do. I don’t see the beavs dropping too many to teams below them. As always, keep winning and it will all resolve itself. The lowest RPI of an at large team in NCAA tournament history is 67.
Teams we’d like to see do well to help the RPI, Mississippi St., DePaul, UC Santa Barbara, Portland
In what? Bubble? Season is half over…nobody is clearly anything
currently. Yes there are many games still to play. But at this point Arizona, Utah and Stanford are clearly the best teams in the conference and I’d be shocked if they do not make the tournament. Despite UW’s current RPI, if they make the tournament when it’s all said and done, I’d be surprised. They aren’t that good. Pac-12 is looking like a 3 bid league to the tournament. But there are a few teams talented (or well coached enough) that could sneak in. We shall see
Lady Beavs at 5pm on Pac-12 Network
This must be what happened to Robbins…
Like Bill Clinton smoked it but “never inhaled”…
but in reverse, so he inhaled but never smoked
Yeah, that’s the ticket, yeah….
Beavs are getting some love finally…
There is a link to kenpom.com in this article, otherwise I wouldn’t link o-live.
You can just do this:
I could have but don’t have an account so I had to read it at o-live…thought it might be useful for others that don’t have an account…
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