02.Dec.2015 Loyola Marymount @ Oregon State

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7pm on Pac-12. Go Beavs.

 

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  • Bill says:
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    Prediction – Eubanks will go off on offense if the game is a run and gun game. He will disappear in the half court sets.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Prediction- Olaf will look confused for most of the game.

  • issaquahbeav says:
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    BYU and Utah up here in WA instead of Beavs…awesome.

  • scotty says:
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    Basketball imitating Riley football on offense: throw the ball 3 times and out

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Is anyone else having trouble getting it to stream on pac-12.com? The Sign in button is not working for me.

    • scotty says:
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      Use the app?

      • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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        It works on the app but i’d rather watch it on a TV than a phone screen. I was curious if it was an issue on my end or the website itself.

    • cj cj says:
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      same here. This is so fucked up. Pay for Pac-12 service on Dish but they don’t show the game. Showing BYU vs Utah

      • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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        Yeah the only way i can get it is to log into the pac 12 now app on my phone and use my dish credentials to log in. I mean it makes perfect sense to show two teams playing from Utah on Pac 12 Oregon. Go figure

        • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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          @Mud & Sticks

          Same here but I noticed it won’t allow you to click it, it disappears before you can. Thanks tho, still way better than hurting my neck looking at my damn phone lol

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Man Eubanks is fun to watch!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    too many turnovers, really need to clean that up or they are not going to win very many

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Hate it when they make a fast break harder then it should be. Why did GP2 go reverse side go strong and get the foul and/or a bucket

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    So many missed 3s…

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    so Derrick Bruce is now P.J. Bruce?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    working stream here

    http://www.stream2watch.co/sports/basketball/loyola-marymount-vs-oregon-state-live-stream-december-03

    Working fine for me

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      – –

      • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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        @Mud

        Figured it out there is an ad hanging out in front of the stream and I was able to get adblocker to take it out, now can choose full screen

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        close any x’s that pop up on the stream, close any other windows that may happen to open and just let it load. I’m running firefox with adblock and ghostery. There’s no mystery. If you want to drop an email addy I’ll gladly make a video and show you or anyone else how I get the streams from that site to work.

    • cj cj says:
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      Couldn’t get the video.Totally fucked. Radio stream was delayed at least 3 minutes.

  • DMCA says:
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    Links are bad mmkay?

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Maybe I already got hacked comments just appear that I posted earlier… Strange

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Sloppy play by OSU… Looking like a young team at times

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Rookies playing like rookies and that’s to be expected.

    • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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      @ Mud,

      Exactly, like I said they are looking it… They’ll get better, it’s early in the season

      • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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        Did you happen to notice we had the same thought at almost exactly the same time? You won but not by much. 🙂

        • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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          Haha… That’s good right there…. But these refs, wow

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Not very impressive.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Are these Pac-12 officials?

  • Beavlover69 says:
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    Terrible rebounding. Starting to look like a big weakness to worry about as the season goes on. Loyola was picked to finish last in the WCC this year btw

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Uhhhh yes, Mr. Bruce can handle the ball.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Nice camera work pac12, missed the put back STJ.

  • Boba says:
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    Duvivier didn’t look real happy in the huddle during that timeout. Has he even played in the second half? He may need to get used to it.

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Think tinkle is happy with their execution?! Getting on them!

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    I hate to admit this but I can remember thinking the only reason OSU offered GP2 a ride was because of who his father is/was.

    WRONG!!!!!

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    All is forgiven, Olaf.

  • Hi_I'm_Chuckie says:
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    Wow Olaf hitting a clutch shot! Haha

  • Riko says:
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    Fucking Flop

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    What a flop by Jacko.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      pretty pathetic as he was holding on to Eubanks arm while Eubanks was trying to head upcourt. I’d have thrown my elbow at that fucker too. Bush league shit there

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I was under the impression that flop would be reviewable for a flagrant violation. When the head whips back like that, it should be reviewed for contact above the shoulders. But when there is none, that flop should be penalized like it’s a delay of game, and the player should tack on another foul.

      Then again, I am talking about the next bad batch of officials to roll through Gill. It’s just brutal this year. And they’ve stopped calling all the contact fouls they were told to concentrate on to start the season. I don’t know why. There was a study that proved the new contact fouls do not increase foul calls, does not alter FTs attempted, doesn’t extend the game (in fact slightly decreases the length), and scoring had increased significantly. And on top of that, it was just a more fun game to watch. But they’re slipping back into the East Coast style of play. And that lends to too many subjective calls which usually favor the aggressors.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Is loyola marymount an acting school? Those guys no how to over exaggerate everything.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    making free throws

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Malcom moping on the bench.

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Well, a win’s a win. Gotta get better with the 3s though.

  • Bill says:
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    Student section needs to come up with better stuff. Chanting Britney griner was dumb.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    wasn’t pretty but I’d rather win ugly than lose pretty. 5-1 looks good. Nevada on Saturday. Think I’ll be there with my wolfpack

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    OT: Kongbo coming back. Nemec reports despite committing to the Vols, Kongbo will visit Washington, Oregon and Oregon State, followed by a possible official visit to Oregon “sometime in January.”

    If he shows up Dec 19 maybe he’ll get to see the Beavs w/Beavs whip the Vol gals.

    Now, back On Topic, did ya’ll hear Tinkle channel Andersen on pre-game radio? Paraphrased: “We are gonna find the guys who will play the way we want them to and coach them; the other guys can try to figure it out”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/12/jonathan_kongbo_nations_top_jc_3.html#incart_river_index

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Re Kongbo: You don’t suppose uncle phil made a call do you? Naaaa

  • OSU82 says:
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    Dang, Olaf with a shooter’s touch tonite. Nice!

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while. But he did what he was supposed to do, and I applaud him for it. Now he needs to keep it up.

      • OSU82 says:
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        Yes, best stats he’s had in a long time, but at least it wasn’t one of those “wtf, Olaf” games.

    • AKBeaver AKBeaver says:
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      Olaf’s still horrible on D but looked good on offense tonight. Loved the post up and fade away. He can do that when he wants due to his length, he just needs to be confident in it.

  • OSU82 says:
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    Curious to hear the thoughts on young Tinkle? I need to watch some more games, but he seems to be struggling a bit with the speed of play at D-1 and what he’s seeing when he has the ball, especially down low. I see his shooting is at 27% on the season so far.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      He seems to be struggling to find his role within the offense. He looks a little lost. What he seems to be good at is passing to other bigs. Right the team has not figured all their roles out, I think that is why you see them struggle at times.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    looking at Nevada’s schedule they’re 5-2 but really haven’t played anyone. Losses at Hawaii and future Beavs opponent Fullerton. They went 9-22 last season and I have no idea how many players returned. Should be a W but still gotta show up and play well.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Nevada’s pretty good. Coleman can dish. And Oliver is a highlight reel. Mussellman will have them winning soon… hopefully not on Saturday.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    BTW, nice to see Olaf and Morris-Walker show up this evening after coach Tinkle called them out in the paper yesterday. Nice response fellas

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Olaf doing what he should have always done.

      smh

      Keep on keepin’ on… I guess.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    From ESPN
    True freshmen who could contribute in 2016: S Shurod Thompson, ATH Christian Wallace, DE Isaac Garcia, WR Trevon Bradford, QB Mason Moran

    Current players whose roles could expand: WR Datrin Guyton, TE Noah Togiai, RB Ryan Nall, RB Paul Lucas, S Bright Ugwoegbu, LB Christian Folau

    The Beavers have posted the No. 67 and 68 recruiting classes the past two years, but Gary Andersen is grabbing the interest of more and more prospects and Oregon State could easily climb this list in the coming years. Thompson is a huge addition to the 2016 class as an ESPN 300 safety capable of jumping right into the mix. That goes for Wallace at cornerback, Garcia at defensive end and Bradford at wide receiver as well, while Moran will be an interesting addition as he is coming in as a quarterback but athletic enough to play multiple positions. Part of the rebuilding process at Oregon State will be turning things over to younger prospects, so the combination of Nall and Lucas at running back should be fun to watch, while Folau is a former Stanford commit and could be ready to make a push in his second year.

    Guess they didn’t get the memo on Guyton?

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      espn doesn’t give two shits about college athletics west of the Rockies. You haven’t figured that out yet?

    • burritodam says:
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      Won’t Folau still be on his mission?

      Anyone know why Shurod was downgraded to 87 by 247sports? I thought he was 91-92. His stats show he was less productive on defense this year but more productive offensively.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Because it all matters.

      • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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        Shurod had to sit out the first half of the season because he transferred high schools. Then his new team, Liberty played him on offense as well as defense.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Ummm… Folau won’t be here until 2017. Maybe they meant Tolutau?

      • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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        They had the right guy, considering they called him a former Stanford commit. They just didn’t do their homework, unless they mean he will convert more followers in year 2 of his mission?

  • thatguy says:
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    I was a bit underwhelmed with the win tonight. I mean, a win is a win. And the freshmen played very well, except Tinkle. But something is missing. I’m waiting for this team to exhibit the great defense they played last year. They suffocated Mississippi State and DePaul last year and that was early with limited depth. Where’s that team? And no, it’s not just points scored. It’s how many easy looks they give up and the missed rotations on D.

    This team has the talent to beat LMU by 20.

    Like I was saying though, Tinkle is still adjusting to the speed it seems like. He’s getting a lot of charging calls, getting his shots blocked, forcing shots, taking shots that aren’t in the flow of the offense, it’s getting hard to watch. Y’all spend your time hating on Olaf, but even in his slow footed life he still plays mostly within himself. Watching Tinkle try to force things is like watching a go-kart crash.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Little Tinks has Cunningham-itis. He’ll be good by the end of the year, better next year and thinking about being a first round pick after his junior year.

  • LetsGoBeavs90 says:
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    Beavers had some really good stretches in the second half but had some mental lapses and a lot of that was on young guys, most noticeably Tres Tinkle. The man to man defense is definitely a real work in progress. With Olaf out there it makes a lot more sense to play zone and switch to a man to man when he’s on the bench. LMU had him defending guys coming off screens where his lack of foot speed is really noticeable. Zone with him out there hides some of his issues with athleticism.

    Duvivier the last 2 games has just not been there mentally. LMU guards blew past him a few times to the rim that got everybody out of position and he just didn’t look ready to play defense and offensively he looked lost. He’s shot it well this season but he was rarely looking for his shot and maybe had one drive in the paint the entire game. He was passive on both ends and with Bruce playing with more aggressiveness and confidence, it looks like Malcolm will be switched to more of a 6th man role. Duviver being a 2 guard off the bench fits his skill set better.

    Sliding Bruce into the starting lineup takes some of the pressure off GP2 to always initiate the offense and facilitate. He does so much damage off of cuts and off the ball movement, so it would be nice to see him take advantage of that and have Bruce initiate the offense more often.

    He’ll never be a big time scorer, but Daniel Gomis is missed. They miss Reid as a scorer off the bench and as a physical presence despite being undersized, but Gomis is most missed. He wasn’t a great rebounder but a lot of that was his ability to box out and fight off big guys to allow guys like GP2 to swoop in for rebounds. He’s the under the radar guy who has a high basketball IQ that does all the subtle things well. Excellent screener, great on defensive rotations and protects the rim but knows when to go for the block and when not to. Getting him back for the Far West Classic would be big. Him and Reid will help ensure this team has a lot more depth and gives Tinkle so many more options late in games.

    The starting lineup for Nevada should be Bruce-GP2-LMW-OS-Eubanks and that should get them off to a better start in the first half and allow them more breathing room in the second half and have Duvivier and Thompson ready to go off the bench

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      I like a lot of your observations.

      Duvivier is fast and strong, but his finishing hasn’t been that great this year, nor has his ability to run point. I think he’s struggling to find his role right now, just because his skill set doesn’t naturally complement GP2’s in the same way that Bruce and Thompson’s do. Did you see that trap that Thompson and GP2 got in that led to a Thompson steal? That type of chemistry on either end doesn’t happen with Duvivier as often. Like I said before, he’s a solid player and a likeable and hardworking one at that. I hope this LMU game doesn’t kill his confidence, because we are going to need Malcolm. He’s a huge reason we beat Zona last year.

      I hope we get Gomis back asahc. I was joking with my boy like “Gomis can come in and shoot the 3 if he wants to, he’s earned it”. But he really has. All those times that Fernandez on Valpo was pushing around Eubanks, I wish that we could plug in Gomis and he could use his strength on the block. He’s truly a defensive anchor type of player, he knows where to be and does so many things that don’t end up on the stat sheet. He can be the difference between tourney and NIT.

      One thing about Bruce is that he feeds off a frenetic pace and takes care of the ball, so LMU was a good matchup for him. He’s gonna go crazy against USC and Arizona State and prolly Washington too. He had a couple miscues on defense (like when he got beat and let his man get all the way to the rim) but he has a calming effect.

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        Feel a little bad for Duvivier, I think last years tempo fit his style better, but he is shooting well from three point land when he’s had the chance. The dude is so strong he can get a shot by backing down the opposing guard almost anytime he wants, but he just cannot finish on a consistent basis. The freshmen are so much more fluid in their motion and spacing even though they make mistakes. Duvivier is only a junior, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

  • helmsley says:
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    Bob Stitt has done pretty well at U of Montana this year.

    “”You continue to adapt to your players and the different situations that you’re in, and that’s what we did,” Stitt said. “We adapted and survived and now we’re back healthy again. Throughout my years in Division II, things changed the same way. We changed our offense as we went. You just try and be successful.”

    I don’t believe that to be Gary Andersen’s philosophy except for the try and be successful part.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Who did he play incorrectly? Was there anyone on the team that was so good as a pro-set player but just couldn’t get it going in the new system?

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      While Andersen has talked like he is more likely to coach players to adapt to the system rather than the other way around, I’m not sure either method has a clear-cut advantage. It certainly takes different coaching skill to operate under the two philosophies. It could be that the “adapt to your players” approach is needed more at D2.

      In any event, the “try to be successful part” has seemed to be missing for several years at OSU, glad to see it back!

      • Jack Jack says:
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        If we’re talking culture, then this is a no-brainer. You don’t coddle kids who want to be divergent because the last guy was neato and enabling. But I’m sure Stitt isn’t talking about that. He would say the same I just did.

        So I wonder what group of players we had who were just so stellar at pro set that it simply doesn’t make sense to just blow it all up and start on a new path.

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          Agree about culture, and I doubt either coach supports coddling.

          To me the question is more about 1) recognizing skill, 2) the ability to develop and successfully modify skill, and 3) the overall effect of change(ing) our offense as we went/(go) upon the whole organization (ie: the entire current squad as well as recruiting, and even staff makeup).

          I certainly cannot point to a player/players on the Beavs ’15 squad who were, ” so stellar at pro set” that a change in scheme was obviously called for.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            That’s kind of my point. We just threw anyone and everyone out there. The first critereon is that you buy in to the process. The next is that you demonstrate it through your play. If you don’t do the first, you don’t get to do the second or any beyond. If you don’t do the second, the third would be just throwing anyone out there to see what works. There is a fourth set of players. Those are the ones who just aren’t good enough to be on a D1 field. That could turn ugly fast when injuries and liability issues are discussed.

            We played a ton of frosh this year. Literally, we played more than a ton a frosh. Part of that is that more than half the team were frosh. But another part is that the frosh were either the ones with talent or the ones who embraced the process.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT, but Olive says Andersen has #31 recruiting class in nation so far, reviews Riley’s recruiting results.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2015/12/oregon_state_beavers_football_9.html#30

    • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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      I wonder how those classes would look if they re-ranked them 5 years later?

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Does anyone else have trouble following those slideshow articles? I really dislike them. This one seemed of little value even if presented in a more readable format.

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        They only semi-work for me, but figured it was a smartphone issue

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          They are a piece of crap. O-Live is slow and buggy most of the time.

      • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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        It’s so frustrating. It seems almost every website is switching to that format. At this point after clicking on a link, if it’s a slideshow I just close it and move on.

        Without digging in to deep: my best guess is they do it because they can cram a shit ton more advertisements down your throat. Instead of opening 1 article they get you to look at 10 different sets of ads for the same info.

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          I’m sure you are right about the advertisements. When I do try to read a slideshow article I’m so focused on relating the content from page to page that I don’t really see the ads.

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          Same here. Slideshow = back button for scotty

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Browser doesn’t allow it to flip more than one slide, so I just don’t bother.

        Edit: Now that I read other comments, it makes some sense. I don’t see anything but a grey screen with a pic and text. There are no ads whatsoever.

        • cj cj says:
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          Ghostery

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            Any idea if Ghostery is the reason every sixth page is blank?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Or something similar written into the browser, I’m sure. I’m running the Epic Browser with no add-ons whatsoever. I do use max adblock filters. But I can always toggle adblock and whatever their tracker block is to off if I want to view pages that want to track me and sell stuff I don’t need.
            https://www.epicbrowser.com/

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            OLive’s revenue is click-based. For the 38 pictures that’s 38 clicks. What seems different about their website is that instead of a sensible handful of analytics/trackers they’ve gone with the barrel full of monkeys approach and it bogs down smart phones.

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            Yeah I stopped reading Olive because I couldn’t comment anymore giving my browser security settings. Won’t let me log in unless I disable a bunch of stuff and let them track me. Fine, just won’t read it. You guys should post links to AB in the comment section after you make one, though, because it drives new users here.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      In the comments section there is this link to a GadgetTimes piece by Cliff:
      http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-bishop-retires-others-leave-the-team/article_68f86560-c17f-11e1-b3b9-0019bb2963f4.html

      Gives a little perspective on the current question of whether or not Andersen is hurting himself/the program by “running off players” and “reneging on scholarships”. I’d forgotten Eight Oregon State football players left the program for personal reasons, coach Mike Riley announced in late June, 2012.

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        And his best year followed. It’s not like these kids don’t find landing spots that pay for the remainder of their schooling. In fact, they likely end up somewhere they get to play and have fun, travel and create memories other than sitting on the sideline at Reser for four or five years. And it’s not like the coaches don’t help them do so. If they buy in and can live with never seeing the field, then they’re welcome to stick around. I know I wouldn’t accept that role if I still had an opportunity to play somewhere else.

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        I know one of the people that got “cut”. Said there was no hard feelings, there uncles still works in the OSU AD.

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      I told the NE “Boneyard” Andersen would have a top 35 class by year 2 and they laughed.

      What is that quote about how first they mock you….

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Re the coaches pressers:

    I wish the athletic department would PLEASE take into consideration the folks who will be watching a video of the press conference.

    By that I mean put enough mics on the table so that we can hear what not only the coach has to say but what the players have to say when they’re responding to questions from the audience.

    And speaking of questions from the audience;;;; how about doing something so that we the viewers can hear what’s being asked?

    Surely someone at OSU must have the knowledge about these sort of things in order to address the issues I’ve raised.

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      Been a problem forever.
      Sorry I was only able to upvote this one time!

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      Or if they want to be cheap, one mic with an omin-directional mic pattern would work. They seem to be using cardiod mics and only one. If you’re going cardiod you need one for each speaker.

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        Any college presser I’ve seen only has the one mic. I guess no one’s ever seen Donahue.

  • Bill says:
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    Rivals rankings are not the best to use before signing day. It’s a math calculation. Too much weight is given to the size of the class early on. I also think it could give more weight to the quality of the class. Florida is ranked #8 but their avg is 3.2. That would drop them down to #24.

    https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1364602

    FWIW – The Beavs avg on Rivals is 2.81 which would put them at #51.

    I find ESPN does a much better job of weighting the quality of the class against volume. ESPN does not have the Beavs class in the top 40.

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      does anybody know when players are re-evaluated? Seems like none of the guys OSU has as verbal commits have had their rating change since the football season ended (ok, some are still playing, but for most it’s over)

      Do they re-evaluate between now and signing day? Or do the current grades stick?
      Moran was evaluated as a safety last year. Or has he been re-evaluated, but just kept at the same rating, despite the difference in position? You’d think they’d have time to evaluate a D1 QB commit. There aren’t that many of them

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        I can’t believe there’s a job that pays enough in this world for ranking high school players.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    The one time i will say this………..Go Ducks.

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      In volleyball…..

      My mouth still has a bad taste from saying that.

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    What can you say about this hoops team? They a buncha freshman surrounded by responsible for the worst league record most of their seasons.

    The players will play like freshmen all season too. Gonna be a long season unless they can rebound better.

    I see lots of holes that will be exploited during the pac 12 season. Front court is thin, back court is inexperienced. Never a good recipe in major college basketball, unfortunately.

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      ?

      OSU has not been the dregs of the Pac. And none of the returnees have known anything less than a seventh place in the league in terms of what they’re “responsible for.”

      The frosh will not play like frosh all season. I agree with the rebounding cliche.

      If you follow the team at all, for even a little bit, you would know what’s up with the front court depth, and you would wonder why the hell you just said the back court is inexperienced.

      Have you not studied this program at all?

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        No offense, but Payton has experience but plays rat ball and while Duvivier seems like a nice kid, he only has experience being awful. Just having experience doesn’t cut it. And outside those two? A lot more inexperience.

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      I agree. We could have some decent years but this team won’t really be good for 2 or 3 years.

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    Any idea when more players will leave the team?

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    WBB need to take the lid off the treys.

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    Losing 30-25 at the half.

    Can’t buy a trey… can’t hold on to the ball.

    I think Scott will speak about these things.

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      Live by the 3, die by the 3. Don’t understand why they’re relying on the 3 when they have a big height advantage.

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        A big height advantage leads to a collapsing zone, which leads to open treys. Try and force the ball through or over that zone, and you end up with a lot of turnovers. You have to bust the zone by making them cover the perimeter.

  • Wow says:
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    Dispatches from the front:

    I was living in Sacramento when an ice-cream truck driver 25 miles away in Lodi was arrested for sending his son to a terrorist training camp in Afganistan.

    I am now living ~30 miles south of San Bernardino CA where a guy in contact with terrorists was building multiple remote controlled bombs, amassing thousands of round of ammo and convinced a young mother to go on a shooting rampage.

    The world is getting weird. Terrorism is getting close to home…..

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    Ladies have looked terrible the entire game, but I expect them to pull this out. Hamblin hasn’t looked good all season and looks especially terrible today. Missed at least 6 or 7 layups. Rough.

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      16 rebounds.

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        7 block shots

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        Yes, I meant on the offensive side of the ball. Watched every game so far, and she hasn’t looked good offensively yet. She’s still rebounding and altering/blocking shots effectively.

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          She’s never looked that good to me on offense. She missed a lot of layups last year, too. She has a weird shot that’s not really a layup or jump shot…more like a flat-footed toss at the rim.

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            2 handed flat foot layjump.

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            No arguments there. She’s never turned into the offensive force that we expected with that size.

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            Hamblin clanked about seven point blank shots. She either can’t or won’t jump. She could have had about six or seven more boards if she had more than a two inch vertical. Hansen could not hit the broadside of a barn, but kept firing away.

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            They put a square on the backboard for a reason.

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            She almost broke the backboard.

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            Lindsay couldn’t jump high enough to break the backboard if you set a box of Krispy Kreme’s on the back of the rim

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Beavs visited one of the juco qbs i mentioned the other day, conner cramer

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    Kid looks good totally off the radar it seems. I only saw yahoo and no one else as far as recruiting. Sure looks closer to 4.57 on hudl than the 4.84 on yahoo. Diamond in the rough?

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      Throws a decent ball. I wonder why he has zero offers.

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        Yeah, I saw his stats before I looked at his tape and I was prepared to be underwhelmed with that 51% completion percentage, but his tape does look pretty good. Good arm, looks like nice touch when he needs it, he runs well. Must not have many receivers.

        Hmmm.he just committed to New Mexico State yesterday.

        http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Conner-Cramer-90018/RecruitInterests

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          It looks like his team lost every game, so maybe he did have very bad WRs. To me he looks decent, maybe even good…I feel his zero star/no offer (tho he must have NMSU) is biasing me from thinking more highly of him. I’d like to hear more about this guy and why he has no offers.

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          http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/12/former_alma_bryant_quarterback.html

          Originally from Alabama. He completed 60% of his passes in high school, and he LOOKS accurate on the highlights. Most of the passes I saw were on a dime. I wonder about the other 49% of his passes that he didn’t complete.

          To be fair, he has almost no time to throw before the pocket collapses on him.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    How about that Pac12 all century team. Not 1 OSU player on it. I’d like to know which Heisman winner was left off, besides Terry Baker.

    • Bill says:
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      Carson Palmer and Gary Beban.

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        10 Heisman winners in the pac12, only 7 made it. Baker was the first west coast guy, you would think all of them should be on that list. Yet they have Reggie Bush and count him as a Heisman winner, go figure.

        Bill the only guy missing from your list is Rashaan Salaam.

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    Poach that guy looks like he would fit well in the system.

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    It sure seems like as soon as @BeavRecruiting mentions a player Anemec is on it. Lol. Pretty sure they read this site too.

  • Corliss says:
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    Ucla about to upset no 1 Kentucky!!

    • scotty says:
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      buh bye calimari

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        I want to write a stripper joke. But I just can’t come up with anything. “Kentucky stripper” just isn’t funny, It’s like making fun of the mentally handicap.

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      But but but, SEC!

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      That wasn’t an upset if you watched it. UCLA just made UK look dizzy. I hope they don’t play like that all year.

  • orangethenewblack orangethenewblack says:
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    RS Jr Georgia QB Faton Bauta planning to transfer.

    https://www.dawgnation.com/football/team-news/breaking-uga-quarterback-faton-bauta-announces-transfer

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      Meaning he’ll probably transfer to Miami, right?

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        That wouldn’t be a terrible idea for Richt. Rumors are Eason is going to follow him there. It wouldn’t hurt to fill the QB room with like-minded players right away.

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    See ASU OC is leaving for Memphis. Wonder if Beavs can steal some talent.

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      There are some commits for ASU and UA that I would like to see at OSU instead.

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        a couple of months back, a source close to the team i was talking with said something along the lines of “If Rich Rod leaves Arizona, it could be a game changer for OSU recruiting” and South Carolina was mentioned as the likely destination, if he were to leave.

        Been crossing my fingers since then, hoping to see RR move on.

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          It’d be great if he did leave. But honestly, I don’t see a job available right now that he’d take except for South Carolina.

          The only available jobs worth a shit right now are South Carolina, BYU and Syracuse.

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    I noticed one of our coaches started following N’keal Harry again yesterday, after the news came out.
    Lucas also tweeted something out about remaining solid with ASU, despite the change, but if we can just get one guy to re-consider, it could mean both. doubtbul anything will happen, but worth keeping after those guys

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    Way OT, but of possible value to GWH, Afghan, and others.
    If you plan to visit the Kershaw warehouse sale in Tualatin, be advised that there will be NO ZeroTol knives in the sale. Great prices, big crowd, no ZT.

  • Bill says:
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    Mendenhall leaves BYU for Virginia…

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      Taysom Hill anybody?

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      OSU needs to play defense on Sitake immediately. He just got here, and probably won’t leave, but we thought we’d never get rid of Riley either.

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        Luckily, he’s on a 3 year deal. I’d hope he sticks that out, but he’s probably a hot commodity when that contract is up.

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          I think he wants to prove he can do at OSU what he did at Utah because there is the question that Whitt runs the D there. And he really has a blank slate to work with right now. But I also think you don’t turn down the alma mater when it comes calling. And I don’t see GA trying to dissuade him if that’s his end game. He could be a good fit for a school where there is a very real voice against football. How big it is, I don’t know. It’s a school that has a pretty good history of success. But the independent move has been underwhelming. Still, take the job if offered. People have hard feelings about rejection even if all the reasoning is sound. And that could translate to never being offered again.

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            I’d agree with all of that.

            Hey BYU, take Matt Wells instead. Ken Neiumatolo (sp?) from Navy is also LDS, maybe they take a look at him?

      • Bill says:
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        What pay him more? No way.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/12/621/60d/proxy.espn.go.com/combiner/i?img=/media/motion/2015/1203/dm_151203_minn_holder/dm_151203_minn_holder.jpg&w=435
    And his response LOL.

    Peter Mortell @PMortell37
    @SportsCenter @notthefakeSVP Thank you Scott. Very proud to hold my kicker’s balls every Saturday and truly honored to accept my own award.
    12:20 AM – 3 Dec 2015
    1,190 1,190 Retweets 2,317 2,317 likes

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    Uh-oh, Riley interviewing for an analyst position? Who would ask for his opinion on a championship game? He’s never played in one.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/128017/one-coachs-take-on-the-big-ten-championship-game

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      Yeah… um. well, you know there was a funny story… at least it was funny for me… anyways… um, you know… there was this one time [neato story here].

    • Boba says:
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      I am thinking there is only so many times you can describe a good play as a “neat deal” before the viewing audience’s eyes glaze over.

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      Riley as an analysist…or any sort of broadcaster……LMFAO!!!

      Yeah it would be hilarious but aint gonna happen. One interview and its obvious his brain wheels turn VERY slowly, and the output from his mouth is slow and content lacking. Check it out — announcers or analysts are not people who talk slowly.

      But maybe they think….hmmm, if we slipped some coke or speed in his gatoraid…… suddenly he is speed talking! (and that would be worth watching!)

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      A few years ago he was on as an analyst…forget what show, but I think they watched bowl games and discussed them around a round table. Riley was clueless as always

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    Congrats to Mitch Canham on being selected for the Mariners Class A minor league team…

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    some people are so utterly fucking clueless they don’t deserve the air they breathe…………

    http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/12/oregon_state_should_abandon_fo.html

    Dear dumb twunt, I mean Barb,

    Oregon St already has mens and womens soccer programs. And guess what? NEITHER is a revenue generating sport.

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      Apperantly Barb doesn’t know what academic means.

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      Probably just an old woman talking out loud…I can get too worked up over this. Think we can all agree she clueless.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Well, that’s a lead-in that really tempts me. I really want to see brain-carnage, as if I can’t find it anywhere on the web… that I know of.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        it’d be easier to look in the mirror

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          No it wouldn’t. I would have to get up and walk through two rooms and into another to do that.

          I don’t keep a handheld next to me like you do.

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      I’m not sure what revenue has to do with anything. It will be a revenue sport soon enough, whether you like it or not. But that has nothing to do with el stupido linked.

      Futbol will be a dominant sport within a generation and a half. Football is a dinosaur. It’s the only sport where fat people are celebrated as athletes… and fast people are stars because they can beat fat people… in the 15 minutes of actual action that takes place.

      That’s what kills me about the sport. There are only 15 minutes of actual action. If you watch a football game, you’re watching 15 minutes of play and 3:45 of people talking about football (if watching on TV)… or 3:45 of just sitting around waiting.

      I fail to see the rationale.

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        OOOH! OOOH!

        Fat people rule in Sumo!

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        “It will be a revenue sport soon enough”

        Thanks for the hearty laugh. Name me which college soccer programs at a minimum break even

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          I didn’t say you were going to make it so. I’m willing to bet you are someone who has spent good money to watch 15 minutes of play over four hours. I’ve done so myself. So it’s not like I’m not the same.

          But I’ve also spent a couple bucks for 90 solid minutes of action at OSU more than a couple times.

          I buy all sports. I love competition of any kind. I’m what you would call a junkie for sport. I will beat you at frisbee golf or running from here to there. Or maybe I won’t. But I won’t not try. Give me a game, and I’ll like to watch it or want to play it.

          Football is kinda cool for what it is, but it’s so fucking specialized that it’s more like watching a NASA pre-launch than it is watching the launch itself.

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            College soccer will never be a money maker because more and more of the best HS players are going straight to MLS academies, rather than college programs. This is the model the rest of the world follows: early professionalization for maximum development time.

            NCAA rules severely prohibit training time for college soccer players and the NCAA cares so little about making college soccer a viable product that they’re unwilling to change that and all the other stupid rules they have.

            In the future, college soccer will become more and more the haven of late bloomers, and less the place where the country’s top young players continue their development. That will lower the quality of play from it’s already pretty low standard. Doesn’t sound like a moneymaking proposition to me.

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            I wouldn’t say never because it will eventually take the form of baseball with kids choosing a college degree over a maybe chance while drudging through the minors. With the popularity of the sport as a whole increasing, play level and attendance will also increase, and revenue will become a factor. I’d say a generation and a half is about right.

            If not, you can tell me you told me so.

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    we should be able to get some BYU recruits if they don’t hire Sitake

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    What would you guys say the odds are of BYU hiring Sitake? Seems like he might be the early favorite

    • DubiousBeav DubiousBeav says:
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      Not sure why anyone would want him at this point. He’s proved nothing. Check back at the end of 2017.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        BYU alum?
        Good recruiter?

        • DubiousBeav DubiousBeav says:
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          Maybe. Utah’s recruiting classes have often been no better than Riley’s over the years. If we sign most of this upcoming class I’d say that’s due to Andersen’s vision rather than whatever Sitake brings to the table. When the Beavers poached Sitake from the Utes, consensus there was that Whittingham was the real defensive mastermind. I always thought that was sour grapes, but this last season hasn’t really convinced me it isn’t true. If BYU wants to take a chance, then sure, but they can do better. Sitake may pan out in the next couple of seasons. I’m just saying he’d be quite a gamble at this point for a HC.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            What conference have you been watching… forever?

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            The man has brought in some of the highest rated defensive recruits the Beavs have EVER gotten and he did it while selling the dumpster fire that was OSU football this year. Sitake and his crew have taken many recruits from BYU over the years and I’m sure the Mormons are thinking about that.

            I’m not sure what kind of names BYU can get for a coach but I’d be willing to bet that the Mormons will be looking for an alum that brings the BYU principals to the program over an outsider that could give them a few extra wins. If that’s the case, then Sitake certainly fits the bill. Sure he has his shortcomings and seems to me like a guy that will always be a successful coordinator but never a successful head coach, but there’s definitely enough there for BYU to take a look at.

          • DubiousBeav DubiousBeav says:
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            The moment Sitake shows he can be successful here, he’ll be gone. That’s why I doubt BYU will come calling this round. Yeah, he’s managed to sell a dumpster-fire to kids, but he’s selling GA’s vision as a whole. We all know that this staff is vastly better in recruiting than Riley & Co. just by who they’re getting in the door. Hell, I can sell Corvallis and OSU better than any of those fools. Let’s see if they can seal the deal in a couple of months and sign the highest recruiting class in school history.

  • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
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    Mrs. Sitake apparently getting lots of questions about her husband.

    https://twitter.com/sweetie_sitake/status/673014630659186688

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      There’s no good reason for him not to take the job if offered.

      I just don’t think they’ll offer.

      But if they do, more power to the man. I would want him to stay because I’m selfish. He’s been nothing but a straight shooter while here. I can only imagine he was the same at Utah.

      And I think we will be good either way, unless we hire Banker to replace him.

      edit: If we ever hired Kiffin… that would be worse times 1000. I would stop watching or attending anything OSU sports related. So I guess I have a limit.

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      Some in SLC are speculating that Whittingham will take the BYU job, his relationship with Chris Hill is at an impasse and now may be the time to part ways. You have to be LDS and in good standing to be a a head coach at BYU, that limits the candidates.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    It’s somewhat frustrating to follow all sports when your wrestling twitter feed doesn’t do anything… yet every opponent for each of your wrestlers posts updates at least twice per period. Some help please?

    I mean, watching a twitter feed for our wrestling team is like watching a live feed for any given B1G hockey game.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    You asked for it.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Pretty sure I’ve linked this previously… but what the hell.

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    This one sucks too.

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    Sorry… had to go off and listen to four… okay… five Albert Collins songs.

    EDIT:

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      Sorry.. mixology sucks on this one.

      EDIT:

      The previous link was so imbalanced that it sucked.

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    One of the greatest songs of all time, IMO.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    Then I have to listen to more stuff.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    I’ve just been on a major kick on these people for a while. Saw them a couple weeks ago. They’re live hot.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    I got some noodling to bug angry.

  • Jack Jack says:
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    And now it’s time for good night music.

  • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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    Good night.
    https://youtu.be/TuYppz9Azzc

  • Jack Jack says:
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    I just can’t help it.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    PSA for Scotty and the single Angrybeavs.

    ? 7:06 Hot Crazy Matrix – A Man’s Guide to Women – YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com › watch

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      How did that pussy crying Frenchy get placed on my Avatar? You should have stomped those bastards when the took back the Rhineland. What happened to my cuddly Gopher?
      Angry?

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Fixed it.
        How did DubiousBeavs crying French pussy man get attached to my post?

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        same thing happened to me yesterday. My avatar had changed to bendbeaver’s Carl Spackler avatar. Checked it when I got home last night and it had reverted back on it’s own. Angry, something’s gone bugfucky

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      link just goes to youtube main page

  • bleedorange says:
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    https://youtu.be/_4mMYqr__K0

    Jack tell me what u think. He’s an unknown legend in the blues community died way too young. If u didn’t see him u would think he’s a black guy. Sorry not to be racist but he just owns the blues.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I remember when he died. I saw him first when he opened on one of Susan Tedeschi’s tours. He was good. He was like a mix of Johnny Lang and Derek Trucks. And he just started to branch out to other genres. If you like eclectic, you should find and listen to anything Corb Lund has done. His music is just all over the place… and brilliant to boot.

  • locationoregon says:
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    Grinch-like Beavers Invade Corvallis Boys & Girls Club; Frighten Children, Steal Toys!

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/osu-football-visits-boys-girls-club-for-holiday-giveback/article_31b8befb-5fc3-5547-aeff-aa97cf2c94d5.html

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Tnx for the link. Worth reading in it’s entirety.
      Noticed that “Keegan Firth had a wide grin on his face as he and 50 teammates… “. That is a great turn out!

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Gary Payton II needs one steal against Nevada to break the Oregon State record for consecutive games with a steal; he is tied with his father at 37 straight…………………

    TEDDY BEAR TOSS: The 2nd Annual Teddy Bear Toss will be held at halftime when fans can throw a stuffed animal on the court to be donated to a child in need. There were more than 1,000 stuffed animals thrown on the court at last year’s inaugural toss.

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=210557202

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    Gary Crowton, fully one half of the two-headed Beaver offensive juggernaut, aka Bald-twin, is rumored to be in the running for head coach at Dixie. If that happens can Diet Cokehead, Baldwin, run the show all by himself, or do they revert??? JB

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    looks like Jarmal could get some PT today. His presence down low and range out to 15′ would be a welcoming sight. Gomis is still a little ways away…………….

    Some notes from Friday’s pre-practice interview with Oregon State head coach Wayne Tinkle:

    Senior forward Jarmal Reid, who has practiced for a week since recovering from a stress fracture in his right foot early in the season, could see the playing floor for the first time Saturday against Nevada.

    Reid was cleared medically before Wednesday’s home win against Loyola Marymount but didn’t play.

    Tinkle said he’ll wait to hear from the team’s training staff Saturday and that it will likely be a “game-day decision” whether Reid plays or not.

    “The plan is that he probably would be able to go a couple minutes,” the coach said.

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/blogs/jesse-sowa/osu-men-s-basketball-friday-practice-notes/article_064b2b1a-18dc-5d22-933e-1bff531d95ca.html

  • angry angry says:
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    I don’t like that the BYU job opened up.

    Every time Utah or BYU opens we’re going to have to hear about GA and crew. Though, funny how Ute fans pretend to hate GA and SItake. They’d take them in a heartbeat if Whittingham leaves, though. What dorks. I can’t stand that fanbase. Letting them into the Pac boosted their delusions of grandeur, too.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    the delusional continue to be delusional. 2 loss Stanford would not jump a 1 loss Clemson or tOSU

    http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2015/12/the_oregon_ducks_still_can_mak.html

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