While the bears are dominating, they are having some bad turnovers. Hope they don’t think they have this in the bag after the half and still come to play.
That’s what makes O’Neill the idiot he is. The Beavs could still finish 17-13. They are not getting in the tourney with that record and ending the season with three straight losses. I would say they are in the NIT with today’s win and that is some measure of improvement.
With Tulsa’s bad loss to Memphis today, I’d say right now the Beavers would be the final team in the field but a sweep in LA and they’d have to make it to at least the semis for a chance. I think they split in LA and win 1 game in the Pac-12 tourney and that will be enough to get them in. If they sweep in LA, they’re in. Huge week for the basketball program. Everyone in that program knows how huge these two road games are. Hopefully they’re embracing things and not putting too much pressure on themselves. A struggling USC team on Wednesday gives the Beavers a good shot at getting a quality road and putting them in a good spot.
Man, if the Beavs scheduled those 2 extra games they’d be a lock right now (assuming they won them, which is a big assumption given this team’s inconsistency). I wonder if the committee takes that into account.
This next week will be fascinating. I think they need to win 1 road game and possibly 1 in the pac tourney to make it a lock. Anything short of that they’re probably in that “first 4 out” camp. Amazing since their RPI and SOS are both so much better than a team like Arizona. The wins carry more weight than anything, if we’re being honest. It’s just like a Cy Young award — nobody is winning that with 12 wins even if they k 300 batters and have a 2 ERA.
hate to say it but we should probably hope that Oregon beats UCLA on Wednesday. If UCLA drops that game they cannot finish ahead of the Beavs in the standings. Or the Beavs could just do themselves a favor and beat them at Pauley. USC has not been playing well at all lately either and got absolutely demolished in both games in the bay area. Cal is looking scary good right now
It’s kind of odd also that Stanford could still finish 10-8 and 17-12 and they are not in any conversations. It’s very, very unlikely because they would have to win two games in Arizona, but if they did they would end up in the upper half of the league.
Arizona would be a signature win, but too little to late and like we both said not likely. Turd is playing much better, the nice part of that is that it makes the Beavs road win look better.
just back from the game. Beavs did what they needed to do. Put away an inferior opponent. Too bad they didn’t get the opportunity to play that team on the road this season. Was awesome to see GP2 break out the retired number 20 to honor his dad in what may be his final game at Gill. Tried to get a pic with GP after the game but missed out. He couldn’t stick around very long. Oh well. Need to split with the LA schools to have a realistic shot or win the conference tournament. I don’t see that happening though. Cal and Utah are playing their best of the season and right now that’s my Pac-12 tournament championship game prediction. If there’s some NIT games at Gill we will be there.
RPI dropped to 32 after this game. Just playing a team with an RPI around 200 will do that even if you win.
Coupled with the rest of this weekends results, Beavs are now tied for 6th with USC and Stanford
we were in section 4. Yes the refs were a non factor but honestly it was not a very physical game. WSU is just soft. I don’t think Ernie is going to last in Pullman. Good recruiter, terrible coach.
Just an FYI – we ordered 5 different Mammoth shirt items, but only received 4 in the package. Dealing with Fan Print now trying to get the missing shirt.
In order to be a strong conference, you need a team or two everyone can beat up on for an easy W and pad their stats. For too long it was us. Thanks for being the sacrificial lamb, cougs :)
Won despite some terrible free throw shooting. 7 for 17! That kind of performance won’t get them to the tourney. You know WSU is that bad when you can shoot 41% at the free throw line and win the game by 20.
Beating USC will go a lot longer ways than beating UCLA.
USC has lost 5 of their past 6. Losing to the Beavs would actually put them on the bubble.
Looking through USC’s recent box scores and their losses, the common theme is scoring early. In the last three games, USC has given up 40 points in the first half and eventually lost by double digits. One was a home loss to Utah.
A cold start to the game will doom the Beavs on Wed. Play like they did vs Kansas and USC will not be able to come back.
I’ve said for a while now USC is the easier road game. USC is overrated and UCLA is underrated/under performed all year. UCLA is more dangerous and a worse matchup, imo.
the reason UCLA has underwhelmed/under performed and will continue to do so is Steve Alford. With the talent they have there is no reason they should be in 10th place. I agree UCLA is a worse match up. Neither game will be easy. Much like the road trip to the bay area I’m not expecting them to win either game so if they manage to steal one that would be gravy. Much better to go into the conference tournament that way than being swept on the road.
Game I am most interested in this next week(besides the Beavs) is Cal at Arizona.
Beavers won’t get consideration for the ncaa tourney if they don’t win 20 games, regardless of their RPI. When’s the last time a 19 win team made it in?
No disrespect, but you have to bring a little research into the conversation……there have been six or seven 16 win teams that have made the tournament in the recent past. Georgia did it in 2001 with a 16-14 and it was an at large bid, not a conference tournament championship.
I think the main point was he’s wrong and winning 20 games is not a necessity to receive an at large berth. More than one example was given and history clearly shows this
I checked….7 teams with 16 wins were “at large berths”….meaning they did not win the conference tournament. USC got in, I believe in 2011, with a 19-14 record.
Actually that’s right. Of course, Their reg. season wins were by an avg. of 18 pts, 10 of their 14 losses were to ranked teams, and they got to the big 12 championship game.
Interesting stats, but also not correct. You’re 0-2. Oklahoma STATE was dusted by Oklahoma in their first conf tournament game. They also only went 8-10 in conference games. The mighty Big-12 also only had two teams advance past the first weekend and both teams lost in the sweet sixteen. So much for being the toughest conference
What the hell was I looking at? Lol, better own up to it, ah fucked up!
That’s right, they came out like lightning, but faltered towards the end, they were going to be the “darlings of the dance”. Those wins over a highly ranked texas & kansas must have been what got them in.
Beavs in as a play into the 11 seed vs Florida in Joe Lunardi’s bracket which was the only major bracket picker to have the Beavs out. Odd place though because the winner plays Arizona but that doesn’t really matter right now.
Lunardi has them as a 11 seed but I think they’re a 10 seed in the committee’s eyes. A split and winning 1 game in Vegas is all they need to make it but getting an LA sweep should be the team’s goal so they can avoid any chance of playing in a first four game. They’ve struggled on the road but they played well at Stanford and if things broke right late against Cal they could have had a chance to steal that one. So, overall they’re playing better on the road than they were on some earlier trips. Oregon took it to them but they’ve done that to everybody in Eugene. USC and UCLA are both struggling. A lot of guys on USC’s team are talking like a team who has lost confidence in themselves and UCLA is a mess. Big chance for Oregon State to get a couple big wins and get themselves in the tournament.
Pitching was much better this weekend. Need to cut down on walks. Especially in the bullpen. They have 25 walks and 4 HBP vs 25 Ks on the year. That’s unacceptable for relievers. It’ll lose a lot of games.
I expect guys who are struggling in the bullpen to still get a few more shots in the non conference. But once conference play starts, they won’t been seen again. Seems like Heimlich will end up being the Saturday or Sunday guy.
Hitting continued against weak pitching.
Wonder when Larnach, Hickey and Martinek will make their debuts. They should add a lot to the team.
How bad was the pitching the Beavers faced over the first 8 games? We have 8 guys batting .333 or better. This seems like the strongest offensive team we have seen over the last decade.
There are no black holes in the lineup like the past few years. It does not appear that one or two guys have to carry the offense and there is protection from slumps by having depth to rotate guys in and out. If Elliot Cary comes back healthy, it could be really something.
Seems like that last few years the Beavs struggled to hit in the post season, while the teams they played were able to nickle and dime them. They say that good pitching beats good hitting. I’m not so sure. You don’t have to hit the long ball; just keep stuff in play. Move guys over. Personally, I’m not down with the whole sacrifice strategy. Outs are bad. Do what you can to avoid them.
I’m sitting here watching uconn play south Florida in women’s basketball (I’m bored). Holy shit, uconn is good….like a whole other level good. They could beat some men’s teams.
158-154? How did BOTH of those schools get CR to coach defense? Isn’t that a conflict of interest? Especially if both schools are interested in good D? Crazy world!
Might as well brush up on tie breaking procedures………….Per the Pac-12 media guide
1. Two team tie……………….Head to head results. If a tie is not broken (say teams A and B went 1-1 against each other) then it goes to head to head results against other opponents starting at the top of the standings and continuing down the standings with head to head results until the tie is broken (Teams A and B both went 0-2 vs Team C which finished in 1st place. Team A went 1-0 vs Team D which finished in 2nd place, Team B went 0-1 vs Team D. Team A would then win the tie breaker).
2. Multiple team tie. The combined records vs the tied opponents. Team A went 2-1 vs Teams B and C, While teams B and C went 2-2 vs the two combined opponents. Team A is then awarded the highest remaining seed, then the two team tie breaking procedure is used between teams B and C to determine those seeds.
Go Beavs!!!!!!!
WSU look worse than the CR Beavs
While the bears are dominating, they are having some bad turnovers. Hope they don’t think they have this in the bag after the half and still come to play.
Beavs* (stupid auto correct always does bears or beats…)
You should set it to Mams
Did O’Neil just say if the Beavs win this game they’re in the Tourney? A 17 win team?
This guy is on crack.
That’s what makes O’Neill the idiot he is. The Beavs could still finish 17-13. They are not getting in the tourney with that record and ending the season with three straight losses. I would say they are in the NIT with today’s win and that is some measure of improvement.
With Tulsa’s bad loss to Memphis today, I’d say right now the Beavers would be the final team in the field but a sweep in LA and they’d have to make it to at least the semis for a chance. I think they split in LA and win 1 game in the Pac-12 tourney and that will be enough to get them in. If they sweep in LA, they’re in. Huge week for the basketball program. Everyone in that program knows how huge these two road games are. Hopefully they’re embracing things and not putting too much pressure on themselves. A struggling USC team on Wednesday gives the Beavers a good shot at getting a quality road and putting them in a good spot.
only ten minutes left in payton’s home career. :(
*bawls like a babybeav*
Why is everyone so upset at me being sad GP2 is leaving? Sheesh!
Reading comprehension and public schools.
40 years of “we will rock you”..really?!
I hope some weird bullshit doesn’t happen where Eubanks gets suspended for that. I just do not trust the P-12 officials.
Man, if the Beavs scheduled those 2 extra games they’d be a lock right now (assuming they won them, which is a big assumption given this team’s inconsistency). I wonder if the committee takes that into account.
This next week will be fascinating. I think they need to win 1 road game and possibly 1 in the pac tourney to make it a lock. Anything short of that they’re probably in that “first 4 out” camp. Amazing since their RPI and SOS are both so much better than a team like Arizona. The wins carry more weight than anything, if we’re being honest. It’s just like a Cy Young award — nobody is winning that with 12 wins even if they k 300 batters and have a 2 ERA.
I was at the game so I didn’t see this: what was that lengthy review in the second half for?
Whether Eubanks intentially hit the wsu guy in the face on purpose. It was ruled incidental.
https://t.co/CSmYNQEqMu
Okay, be honest: Did anyone else think “Two girls, one trophy”?
I wish I was that trophy.
Were.
Maybe he only wishes he *was* that trophy in the past, specifically when they took that pic. He wouldn’t want to be it now. ;)
Subjunctive mood.
No, I honestly wish I was that trophy…
Scotty you magnificent pervert.
You’ll be scared to know scotty’s back in the dating arena
Nah, there are some lonely Beavers out there than need a Mammoth.
That.
I second that statement
I thought Ruth quit social media?
http://www.ruthhamblin.com/blog/2014/8/13/the-ironic-last-blog-post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
Looks like UW will lose putting them at 8-9
We are tied at 8-8 with USC and Stanford.
Wednesday against USC will be a huge game, possible tie-breaker.
hate to say it but we should probably hope that Oregon beats UCLA on Wednesday. If UCLA drops that game they cannot finish ahead of the Beavs in the standings. Or the Beavs could just do themselves a favor and beat them at Pauley. USC has not been playing well at all lately either and got absolutely demolished in both games in the bay area. Cal is looking scary good right now
Hope for a quack win?! That feels so… so dirty
It’s kind of odd also that Stanford could still finish 10-8 and 17-12 and they are not in any conversations. It’s very, very unlikely because they would have to win two games in Arizona, but if they did they would end up in the upper half of the league.
Stanford is only 5-11 vs Top 50 RPI teams. They don’t have any bad losses. What they lack is enough signature wins. They’re an NIT team at best.
They could beat ASU in Tempe but I don’t think they will. No way they win at McKale
Arizona would be a signature win, but too little to late and like we both said not likely. Turd is playing much better, the nice part of that is that it makes the Beavs road win look better.
just back from the game. Beavs did what they needed to do. Put away an inferior opponent. Too bad they didn’t get the opportunity to play that team on the road this season. Was awesome to see GP2 break out the retired number 20 to honor his dad in what may be his final game at Gill. Tried to get a pic with GP after the game but missed out. He couldn’t stick around very long. Oh well. Need to split with the LA schools to have a realistic shot or win the conference tournament. I don’t see that happening though. Cal and Utah are playing their best of the season and right now that’s my Pac-12 tournament championship game prediction. If there’s some NIT games at Gill we will be there.
RPI dropped to 32 after this game. Just playing a team with an RPI around 200 will do that even if you win.
Coupled with the rest of this weekends results, Beavs are now tied for 6th with USC and Stanford
We were at the game, too, wearing our new Mammoth t-shirts!
I thought the best part of the game was that the refs didn’t get in the way.
we were in section 4. Yes the refs were a non factor but honestly it was not a very physical game. WSU is just soft. I don’t think Ernie is going to last in Pullman. Good recruiter, terrible coach.
Just an FYI – we ordered 5 different Mammoth shirt items, but only received 4 in the package. Dealing with Fan Print now trying to get the missing shirt.
It’s buried under Gill.
Good win. Damn WSU is really bad. They’d struggle in the Big Sky
In order to be a strong conference, you need a team or two everyone can beat up on for an easy W and pad their stats. For too long it was us. Thanks for being the sacrificial lamb, cougs :)
Won despite some terrible free throw shooting. 7 for 17! That kind of performance won’t get them to the tourney. You know WSU is that bad when you can shoot 41% at the free throw line and win the game by 20.
Beating USC will go a lot longer ways than beating UCLA.
USC has lost 5 of their past 6. Losing to the Beavs would actually put them on the bubble.
Looking through USC’s recent box scores and their losses, the common theme is scoring early. In the last three games, USC has given up 40 points in the first half and eventually lost by double digits. One was a home loss to Utah.
A cold start to the game will doom the Beavs on Wed. Play like they did vs Kansas and USC will not be able to come back.
they came back from down double digits to beat Colorado
I’ve said for a while now USC is the easier road game. USC is overrated and UCLA is underrated/under performed all year. UCLA is more dangerous and a worse matchup, imo.
the reason UCLA has underwhelmed/under performed and will continue to do so is Steve Alford. With the talent they have there is no reason they should be in 10th place. I agree UCLA is a worse match up. Neither game will be easy. Much like the road trip to the bay area I’m not expecting them to win either game so if they manage to steal one that would be gravy. Much better to go into the conference tournament that way than being swept on the road.
Game I am most interested in this next week(besides the Beavs) is Cal at Arizona.
Women’s tournament bracket with game times is out. BWB will play at 6pm Friday evening against USC/WSU winner
http://pac-12.com/womens-basketball/womens-basketball-tournament
Beavers won’t get consideration for the ncaa tourney if they don’t win 20 games, regardless of their RPI. When’s the last time a 19 win team made it in?
Try last year. Teams get in every year with less than 20 wins. Oklahoma State only had 18 last season
No disrespect, but you have to bring a little research into the conversation……there have been six or seven 16 win teams that have made the tournament in the recent past. Georgia did it in 2001 with a 16-14 and it was an at large bid, not a conference tournament championship.
Yeah but how many of those teams were actually selected vs winning their conference tournament?
I think the main point was he’s wrong and winning 20 games is not a necessity to receive an at large berth. More than one example was given and history clearly shows this
I checked….7 teams with 16 wins were “at large berths”….meaning they did not win the conference tournament. USC got in, I believe in 2011, with a 19-14 record.
Actually that’s right. Of course, Their reg. season wins were by an avg. of 18 pts, 10 of their 14 losses were to ranked teams, and they got to the big 12 championship game.
Interesting stats, but also not correct. You’re 0-2. Oklahoma STATE was dusted by Oklahoma in their first conf tournament game. They also only went 8-10 in conference games. The mighty Big-12 also only had two teams advance past the first weekend and both teams lost in the sweet sixteen. So much for being the toughest conference
What the hell was I looking at? Lol, better own up to it, ah fucked up!
That’s right, they came out like lightning, but faltered towards the end, they were going to be the “darlings of the dance”. Those wins over a highly ranked texas & kansas must have been what got them in.
Beavs in as a play into the 11 seed vs Florida in Joe Lunardi’s bracket which was the only major bracket picker to have the Beavs out. Odd place though because the winner plays Arizona but that doesn’t really matter right now.
They are pretty much in everyone else’s brackets.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
So I think one more win puts them in. 2 gets them off the bubble.
Lunardi has them as a 11 seed but I think they’re a 10 seed in the committee’s eyes. A split and winning 1 game in Vegas is all they need to make it but getting an LA sweep should be the team’s goal so they can avoid any chance of playing in a first four game. They’ve struggled on the road but they played well at Stanford and if things broke right late against Cal they could have had a chance to steal that one. So, overall they’re playing better on the road than they were on some earlier trips. Oregon took it to them but they’ve done that to everybody in Eugene. USC and UCLA are both struggling. A lot of guys on USC’s team are talking like a team who has lost confidence in themselves and UCLA is a mess. Big chance for Oregon State to get a couple big wins and get themselves in the tournament.
Lunardi has them playing Floriduh in a play in game with the winner facing Arizona? Don’t think so.
He also bumped USC up a spot after they got clowned by twice by 20+ this weekend. Not sure he was paying much attention.
Congrats to the BWB’s. Back to back champions.
Baseball weekend recap,
Pitching was much better this weekend. Need to cut down on walks. Especially in the bullpen. They have 25 walks and 4 HBP vs 25 Ks on the year. That’s unacceptable for relievers. It’ll lose a lot of games.
I expect guys who are struggling in the bullpen to still get a few more shots in the non conference. But once conference play starts, they won’t been seen again. Seems like Heimlich will end up being the Saturday or Sunday guy.
Hitting continued against weak pitching.
Wonder when Larnach, Hickey and Martinek will make their debuts. They should add a lot to the team.
How bad was the pitching the Beavers faced over the first 8 games? We have 8 guys batting .333 or better. This seems like the strongest offensive team we have seen over the last decade.
There are no black holes in the lineup like the past few years. It does not appear that one or two guys have to carry the offense and there is protection from slumps by having depth to rotate guys in and out. If Elliot Cary comes back healthy, it could be really something.
Seems like that last few years the Beavs struggled to hit in the post season, while the teams they played were able to nickle and dime them. They say that good pitching beats good hitting. I’m not so sure. You don’t have to hit the long ball; just keep stuff in play. Move guys over. Personally, I’m not down with the whole sacrifice strategy. Outs are bad. Do what you can to avoid them.
I’m sitting here watching uconn play south Florida in women’s basketball (I’m bored). Holy shit, uconn is good….like a whole other level good. They could beat some men’s teams.
OF COURSE THEY COULD BEAT MEN’S TEAMS HAVEN’T YOU HEARD MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL?!?
I can still see Bobby Riggs jumping over the net to congratulate Billie Jean King.
reductio ad absurdum
Bet they could beat WSU
Doubt they could beat a 4A high school boy’s team in Oregon.
Have you watched them play?
Congrats to Jamie Weisner and Ruth Hamblin. Pac-12 player of the year and Pac-12 defensive player of the year. Way to go ladies!
http://pac-12.com/article/2016/02/29/pac-12-announces-women%E2%80%99s-basketball-honors?utm_source=HootSuite&utm_medium=OwnedSocial&utm_campaign=Pac12Social
Crazy realtor gets Coach of the year…………..and a great rate on 15 year fixed.
Lane Kiffin and his wifey are divorcing…
I’m suprised someone could marry a douchebag like that in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TvJy2Ot48M
Lol, excellent.
Don’t know if anybody saw this but crazy basketball game in the JC ranks.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14854689/united-tribes-technical-college-nearly-wins-basketball-game-only-two-players-left
158-154? How did BOTH of those schools get CR to coach defense? Isn’t that a conflict of interest? Especially if both schools are interested in good D? Crazy world!
What’s crazy is the 2 players left for the tribe side that still kept it that close.
Might as well brush up on tie breaking procedures………….Per the Pac-12 media guide
1. Two team tie……………….Head to head results. If a tie is not broken (say teams A and B went 1-1 against each other) then it goes to head to head results against other opponents starting at the top of the standings and continuing down the standings with head to head results until the tie is broken (Teams A and B both went 0-2 vs Team C which finished in 1st place. Team A went 1-0 vs Team D which finished in 2nd place, Team B went 0-1 vs Team D. Team A would then win the tie breaker).
2. Multiple team tie. The combined records vs the tied opponents. Team A went 2-1 vs Teams B and C, While teams B and C went 2-2 vs the two combined opponents. Team A is then awarded the highest remaining seed, then the two team tie breaking procedure is used between teams B and C to determine those seeds.
Clear as mud?
Page 57
http://catalog.e-digitaleditions.com/i/586413-2015-16-mens-basketball-media-guide/164
Looks pretty simple. They provide the variables for a very very simple problem. Just plug in the values for each variable.
OT. I don’t know if this kid is PAC-12 material or not, but this is pretty cool; a great experience for this student-athlete:
http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Video-Gary-Andersen-surprises-walkon-with-scholarship-in-winter-conditioning
He looks tiny. I wonder if he’ll be on scholarship the rest of his career.