Beavs favored on the road by Vegas? When was the last time that happened in a conference game? I didnt check the line for Colorado, so maybe it was just 2 days ago. Regardless, hope they pick up their 3rd Pac road win today.
GoBeavs
Poor, but if they can squeeze out 4 or 5 road wins in conference and win most of their remaining home games they should get a nod.
Too bad the schedule only has us playing Cal/Stanford/Utah/Colorado one time this year, but ASU/UA/UCLA/USC twice. Not a very favorable remaining schedule to make the tourney, but I dont think theyre really a tourney team anyway. NIT should be very attainable.
They would have to win the conference tourney to get in.
A soft schedule plus the pac 12 stinks as a whole. 5 years ago they would be right in the hunt but since the top of the conference has fallen off it’s impossible. Winning conference record should get them to the NIT.
.667 in conference plus a Pac Tourney win makes us a bubble team with question marks. We’re going to have to keep the losses in single digits until the last game we play in order to impress the committee.
Doable. Win the remaining home games (UO, Stanford, Cal, Arizona and ASU) and beat WSU in Pullman. 12-6 would absolutely be good enough to earn a first round bye.
81-72 final. First conference road sweep in 10 years.
Agree with above. Not a tournament team due to the Pac being extremely shitty. This is a one bid league unless someone other than UW wins the Pac-12 tournament.
That said, the talent is there and the Beavs should be a tournament team. That is on this coaching staff. They have shit the bed against Missouri, Texas A&M and Kent fucking St. Beavs net ranking is at 78. That should improve when the new rankings come out whenever that is.
Current net rankings (losses)
Missouri – 90
Texas A&M – 101
Kent St – 137
St Louis – 105
Arizona – 65
Arizona St – 69
UW – 29
No really bad losses there, but plenty of missed opportunities. Penn (97) and Old Dominion (87) are the best non conference wins. An injury depleted Oregon (57) road win is the best in conference win so far. Had they managed to beat UW maybe the Beavs would be in the discussion.
5 of the last 9 games are against UW, Oregon, USC, Arizona and ASU. Those 5 teams are currently higher in the net rankings. Absolutely CANNOT lose at WSU (219) or home against Cal (267).
Only the second time the Beavs have ever won in Boulder and Salt Lake City. I remember the Beavs winning in Boulder a few years ago but I can’t recall when they last won in SLC. Maybe right after they joined the Pac?
vs. UTAH: Oregon State and Utah meet for the 31st time with the Utes holding an 18-12 advantage, including a 13-1 mark at home. The teams have split the last four meetings.
The Beavers’ lone win in Salt Lake City came on Feb. 4, 2012 when they cruised to a 76-58 victory behind Jared Cunningham’s game-high 20 points.
Kinda sorta rings a bell. Something about a monster slam by Cunningham is coming to mind. I watched a highlight video but didn’t see anything. I’m not gonna link it because it gave me painful memories of Ahmad “I never met a shot I didn’t like” Starks.
Nice, thanks.
Given all our great teams in the past I’m surprised we only won twice in Utah.
We must have started playing them more post 1990 when we sucked.
Edit, found this. It lists 25 games not 31. I didn’t realize Utah had that good a school record. I remember the good teams with Van Horn…
97-98 team, lost to Kentucky in the finals after having a big first half lead. Andre MIller and Michael Doleac were the stars. Beavs played them in Portland and they jumped out to a lead behind Corey Benjamin, but ended up losing 69-61.
Thanks for the link too. I was at that 47-37 loss at Gill in 2015. Probably the ugliest basketball game I’ve been to in person. As a beaver fan I have seen a lot of bad basketball in the last 25 years.
Watched film just to humor myself after seeing his size but didn’t see anything to make sense of it. He’s exactly what you’de expect, a D3 level athlete that’s 75 lbs overweight that should take a year off to get in shape and then go play backup linebacker at Lewis and Clark.
I watched the film last night after making this post and had the same thoughts. I’m leaning towards this being a visit that never materializes. Just doesnt make any sense to trip an unathletic kid across the county in hopes they take up a roster spot. You can probably ignore this one
We’re at the point where a friend of a coach has a kid who just wants to be on a D1 roster and has a favor to ask… aka, Mike Riley’s future two-deep while at OSU.
Maybe it’s our strategy to boost attendance. Sign up kids with large families to PWO offers, so you’re guaranteed 4+ more butts in the seats on saturdays
Haven’t confirmed it but I think there’s a 5th official visitor this weekend.
Local kid, no offers. Probably another PWO option. Big/slow WR(6’6″ 225 lbs), but I could see him as more of a TE in college. Pretty raw though.
Rocco Carley from Mt Angel.
Good solid win last night. Team responded whenever Utah got any bit of momentum.
Finishing with a winning conference record would be huge. It’s been a very long time since they have had a winning record. They went 9-9 when they made the tourney 3 years ago. Think about that, how far the conference has fallen
The conference fell this year because of a poor non-con schedule, nothing more. Most of the rest of the Pac is in the same situation we are because they too had no business losing some of those non-con games.
Even with the rest of the Pac sucking, if we win any two of our non-con losses, we’re a solid top 40 team. Go undefeated, and we’re top 20(-ish). Right now, we’re a top 70 team looking for the auto-invites to be filled by the favorites. Like the rest of the Pac, we did it to ourselves.
OT- Hekker and Allen face off today…Cooks against his old teammates.
Think the Patriots bottle up Cooks?
Saw there is going to be 11 commercials per half, and a 29 minute halftime. Plenty of rest for the players today. If the Rams aren’t establishing offensive consustency, I suspect these breaks in action will benefit the Patriots D.
I’d like Cooks to pick up a ring, but think the Patriots win again.
With the recent “semi-success” of MBB, I wanted to confirm the last time they had a winning conference record. 29 fucking years, 1989-90 season. Unbelievable. Call me a skeptic until they get to 10 wins.
WBB, Beavs beat Utah despite very slow start. Pivec/Slocum 33/32 minutes, Corosdale/Goodman 40/38.
14 of 17 FT and only 3 TO’s.
At Stanford and Cal next weekend, then CW.
Speaking of holding and the Pats O… I don’t think I’ve seen so many stretched jerseys in my life. They finally called a hands to the face late in the game, and the slo-mo/screen shot showed every Pats O-lineman holding in ways that get called on everyone else always… not just in that “you can call holding on every play” kind of way.
I’m surprised Donald and Suh didn’t find a way to fall on the back judge several times. There were a couple plays where Donald was just grabbed by an outreaching arm and spun away from Brady with a grab of his chest plate. It was the most aborted O I’ve ever seen.
The Pats D played really well up front. We really didn’t see anything downfield. I’m guessing that’s because Goff didn’t see anything either.
Totally agreed. I don’t care if his are was held or not. Pro WR catch balls like that a lot one-handed. His drop cost the Rams at least a tie and potential OT. Regardless, that was one of the most if not the most uninteresting Super Bowls in history. NFL = No Fun League. NFL is almost unwatchable.
I can see the argument he should have caught it. But I thought his left arm was clearly held in the available film.
Cooks is strong for his size and fundamentally sound usually. The only reason he doesn’t use the left arm up and put left hand on the ball is because he is interfered with. And yes, he better start practicing one handed catches with the football shooter thingy.
Throw the flag. If he catches it, they can refuse the penalty.
This is where the poor officiating continues to cause problems. You compare what happened to Cooks to the rams/saints non-call, and the Cooks hold looks like nothing in comparison. But they were both interference in my opinion.
I’m not invested in NFL football. Just that Cooks is a standout character and one of my all time favorite Beaver football players, would like to have seen him get a ring. Also tired of the whole Bilichek stuff for all the reasons listed below. I watched the last half of the fourth quarter. The only other game I watched was Rams/Chiefs on Monday night.
Oh well. I’ll track Beavers WBB and then see if there’s any interesting developments in Beaver spring football (Gebbia looking like the real deal hopefully).
Definitely a PI on Cooks, yet it doesn’t get called…. fucking Cheatriots win again….put another asterisk on that win. Told my wife no more NFL for me, and she sucks me back in to the Super Bowl party. NFL’s product sucks, refs continuing to make sure to influence the game with atrocious non-calls. There will be rule changes again after the New Oreleans debacle and the “hand to Brady’s face” during the Kansas City game. Ironic there seems to be rule changes whenever the Pats win. ASTERISK!!!!
CTE research has taken a strong hold on parents letting their kids play now. Lots of parents refusing to let their kids plays especially on the west coast.
The younger generations and millennials don’t care because their is way too much exposure of sports in general and the grey hairs don’t watch because of the kneeling (shows disrespect I guess) and a lot are racist, even if they don’t try to be. Which leaves the rest of us frustrated by a game that seems to try to be technical, but really is a bunch of boneheads in tights and stripes — like a bad soap opera that rehashes the same stories with different actors/actresses. Only in this case, we are stuck with Brady year after year. The commentators talk as if we have forgotten all the shit and cheating the Patriots did in the past — “Wow it is incredible they are in their 9th Super Bowl in 18 years!!” You mean we are supposed to forgive the whole process, forgive Spygate, the Tuck rule fiasco, Ineligible Indelible, Deflate gate….????. It’s become a game of referee fuckory….what better team to play in the grey areas of the rule book? Who can cheat the best? How many other defending champs can say they got fined, lost draft picks, or got suspended for cheating? It’s ruined the game. Its become a hate-fest, I no longer root for my teams, I end -up rooting against the Patriots on Sunday’s so I won’t have to hear about them winning another Goddamn super bowl. Fuck you NFL and fuck Tom Brady/Bill Bellichick and the striped-zebra they rode in on!!!!!
And that other pass to Cooks was a sure TD, but Goff throw it way too late. Moment seemed too big for Goff. I thought it was there for the taking, Pats were not on their A game on offense. I would have much preferred a NO/KC match-up. Maybe next year.
That was supposed to be the best teams in the nfl? Yikes. Ive seen better football played between sororities. One day an nfl defense will at least try to cover Edelman.
There was a sequence early in the game when NE had 3 consecutive negative yard plays, last of them was a great square up tackle on a screen play. LA was called for a penalty because the reciever was a defenseless player! Romo and Nantz both seemed to agree that the rb needed to have time to catch and step before being tackled. seemed like a big call early that kept momentum for NE.
NFL is now WWF to me. It isn’t completely scripted but outcomes are predetermined in many cases. Especially when it matters most. Blatant blown calls and non-calls may be the death of King Football…
Yup….another perfect example of the rule book and referee fuckery of an otherwise great tackle. Nobody knows what the rules are anymore. That was a great and well timed tackle for loss.
And he kept his head up. Doing so minimized contact and increased the efficiency of the tackle.
Hoops has similar rules for contact to the head. But they have already evolved to call the difference between a normal hoops play and a foul, even correcting the call to the positive if replay warrants it.
So the defenders are supposed to wait and let the guy gather himself before tackling him. I thought the defender did good to bear hug the guy and the helmet touching helmet was incidental. It’s not like the defender came in purposely up high. What else is the defender supposed to do? Dive into the turf given the RB was already very low.
I don’t care about their politics. You’d be hard-pressed to find an NFL owner who isn’t a (real) billionaire in favor of legislation that favors billionaires.
And I wouldn’t blame Brady for any of it. While he greatly benefited from it all, he’s still a great player. I have it on good authority that the NFL knows precisely who fiddles with game balls in what ways, more so since they went to dedicated special teams balls. It was always just the linesman’s judgment that allowed balls to be in play. Several were set aside during games for various inflation issues. It wasn’t until the NFL did nothing about the stealing of signals and playbooks (and lots of other property) that they had to do something. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-coaches-admit-team-stole-play-sheets-during-spygate-era/
It’s pretty much all Bellichick. The NFL should have slapped him with a show-cause enforcement. Instead, we get to hear a story about squishy balls that peters out in court.
Their first three super bowl wins need to be wiped from the record books. The last three wins….they can have, still get an asterisk in my mind. They’ve ruined professional football for me.
I watched the Beavs beat Utah on TV this weekend and I also got to go see the Clippers – Lakers game live last Thursday. I admit I am more of a hockey / football guy now but I used to watch my fair share of basketball when I was younger. The thing that struck me in both basketball games is how the game has changed, and I don’t think for the better, because of the 3 point part of the game. Everything is centered on getting the 3 verses driving to the net. Plus there isn’t as much defensive effort amd rebounding sucks due to everyone being outside trying to set up for the 3. Yeah, I got to see LaBron and all but overall there wasn’t that much of a wow factor… showtime is gone.
Showtime was run and gun. Pros are wimps with entitlement issues nowadays. You ask them to run for 82+ games, you’ll lose the locker room. Running makes millionaires tired… especially millionaires who need to extend their careers to continue their paydays, rather than give a shorter career with higher quality play.
There will be a time in the near future when some management team figures out that putting together a bunch of thoroughbreds who can score lay-ups with frequency will create a team that can run through the NBA for a couple seasons. You just have to find the players who have been broken of their college days (the last time they were the go-to isos) and want to wreak havoc as a team.
I believe the NBA has a problem in messaging because every team has to have some superstar (or hype one who isn’t) in order to market their message… which is basically, “Look at this guy! Come watch him play. Yay… dunks.”
Our final 2 2019 scholarships have been claimed, so the class is done at this point. Both are announcing on signing day though, so unfortunately you’ll have to wait for the names. No big surprises. Both are guys are names I’ve mentioned recently as likely class additions.
BTW: Thanks for continuing on providing excellent recruiting coverage. We know the information you provide is as credible as possible. Best of all there is no paywall on any of this information unlike Sedge and Blitz. We appreciate it!
Also, my guess is the following are the signing day commits (even though I would’ve liked a big surprise):
Akili Arnold
Paul Matavo-Poialii
Beaverblitz has a piece out today where they basically give away who is committing(but couching it as “we believe this will happen”
Make no mistake, they’re telling you exactly what will happen but trying to be clever in their wording so they aren’t considered spoilers.
The defeat marked back-to-back Super Bowl losses for Rams receiver Brandin Cooks, who played for the Patriots last season and was knocked out of last year’s Super Bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles because of a concussion after his only catch.
“It’s disappointing,” said Cooks, who led the Rams with eight receptions for 120 yards. “All that hard work you put in and you get here, and you don’t capitalize.”
Cooks came close to scoring on a long pass from Jared Goff when he briefly got wide open in the end zone. But he unable to hang onto the high throw.
“Just one of those plays,” Cooks said. “Kind of popped open, busted coverage, and just back there waiting for the ball. Not something we expected, so Jared saw it late and, you know, I’ve just got to go up earlier to give myself a better opportunity.”
—Sam Farmer
Getting his kicks
The Rams kept one of their most effective weapons busy much of the night. Unfortunately, that was the right leg of punter Johnny Hekker.
Hekker punted nine times, including on each of the Rams’ first eight drives. No Super Bowl team had ever punted on its first eight possessions.
Hekker’s eighth punt traveled a Super Bowl record 65 yards. It wasn’t much of a consolation prze for the four-time Pro Bowl player from Oregon State.
“It’s nice to have an accolade next to your name, something cool and noteworthy,” Hekker said. “But that punt probably rolled for half the total distance, so I wasn’t too happy with the way that one came off my foot.”
I was hoping the Rams would win 6-3 and Hekker would be the MVP… lol. Honestly though I think the 2 best teams were the Chiefs and Saints. I believe the Chiefs would have been in it had they won the coin flip in OT.
Prior to this class the average composite ranking over the last 5 years is 57th. There are no 4 star non-qualifiers in this class to bump the ranking up like in years past. Although 67th isn’t ideal it’s pretty much in line with the previous 5 classes. Colorado won the south a couple years ago with 2 classes ranked in the 70’s and Utah’s 2017 class was 67th.
What does it say about their high school player rankings when they have 4 different guys ranked in the top 10 at their position coming out of hs, but then re-rank them 2 years later as 3* prospects. Does it reflect on the players? Or on their rantings system? Honestly don’t know how any of these numbers can be considered meaningful to anybody, except for the purpose of stroking egos and selling subscriptions.
Is he wrong to say the class is underwhelming? (I’m not including transfers).
JS sure isn’t playing the impact recruit game. But he can’t play the diamond in the rough or overlooked strategy anymore. Every prospect is being seen now.
He’s all in on the long game. Relying on the belief he can coach these guys up.
I’m thinking Smith is “all in on the long game”, however, it is much more than coaching these guys up. He’s trying to build a culture of guys who buy in and (like last year) don’t quit. Coaching them up is a big part of getting the attention of top rated talent but building a consistent culture, and selling it is to.
Sorta getting Low Ego/Middle of the Pack Talent in order to attract the elusive Low Ego/High Output guys down the road.
Gotta admit, I have no idea how long that road may turn out to be.
This is going to sound like I’m defending Smith but that is not my angle. Being underwhelmed is all that we should expect right now. The program has been through how many coaching changes and we have won how many games? From the natural eye we are probably doing good to get the recruits we are getting. Hopefully once we build identity behind a coach who has stabilized the program and we start winning some games we will start getting the bigger name recruits… but even then we aren’t Uncle Phil’s team or the University of Spoiled Children (USC).
If you look at the height and weight of the players signing today….none are below 6′ and only 2 are 300-330 #’s in weight; everyone else has good weight to height ratio in my mind. They’re looking at body type with multi sport athletic abilities. Jackson Cloyd had offers from Brown, Columbia, Air Force, and Army. This tells me he’s a smart kid and won’t be an issue in the classroom.
Also, Smith is adding needed depth with PWO’s. He’s doing a better job with PWO’s than Scott Frost at Nebraska….and Nebraska was known for their walk-on program. The only difference between Smith and Frost…Smith was a walk-on player who received a scholarship and helped beat ND 41-9 in the Fiesta Bowl. So he’s able to sell to kids, “Hey, I was a walk-on at Oregon State and received a scholarship and the starting role. You come here, you will have the ability to accomplish the same goal.” Smith wants kids who believe in themselves and are teachable just like he was in college. I’m really excited for the upcoming season. We already had 15 early signees, now we have 11 more signees today. 26 guys pledged to play for the Orange and Black. That’s a big signing class, even with PWO’s! When was the last time Riley was able to get a big class with PWO’s like Smith is able to do?
Sounds like a good start to me. Not saying any of these guys will become a Vander Esch, but Smith seems to be getting hungry players that can fit the mold.
Vander Esch was a walk-on at Boise State, and now starts for the Cowboys. He’s a great story.
New pwo commit Jackson cloud seems like a pretty good pwo player to get. Had offers from other schools that sometimes beat out the beavs. Will follow some of these pwo guys over next couple of years and see if smith can catch lightning in a bottle on a few.
Beavs favored on the road by Vegas? When was the last time that happened in a conference game? I didnt check the line for Colorado, so maybe it was just 2 days ago. Regardless, hope they pick up their 3rd Pac road win today.
GoBeavs
What do you guys see as our tourney chances right now?
Poor, but if they can squeeze out 4 or 5 road wins in conference and win most of their remaining home games they should get a nod.
Too bad the schedule only has us playing Cal/Stanford/Utah/Colorado one time this year, but ASU/UA/UCLA/USC twice. Not a very favorable remaining schedule to make the tourney, but I dont think theyre really a tourney team anyway. NIT should be very attainable.
Just my opinion though
totally agree. Would like to see more of Vernon and less of reichle.
They would have to win the conference tourney to get in.
A soft schedule plus the pac 12 stinks as a whole. 5 years ago they would be right in the hunt but since the top of the conference has fallen off it’s impossible. Winning conference record should get them to the NIT.
Is Washington the only Pac team that will get in (minus whoever wins the conference tourney)?
.667 in conference plus a Pac Tourney win makes us a bubble team with question marks. We’re going to have to keep the losses in single digits until the last game we play in order to impress the committee.
Goal for rest of season should be to get a bye in the pac 12 tourney. That’s something that is attainable. Win today would go a long ways.
Doable. Win the remaining home games (UO, Stanford, Cal, Arizona and ASU) and beat WSU in Pullman. 12-6 would absolutely be good enough to earn a first round bye.
lots of calls going the beavs way. Need to take advantage of the double bonus for 10 min.
If they go on a run here late in the 1st half, they could take out the Utes early.
81-72 final. First conference road sweep in 10 years.
Agree with above. Not a tournament team due to the Pac being extremely shitty. This is a one bid league unless someone other than UW wins the Pac-12 tournament.
That said, the talent is there and the Beavs should be a tournament team. That is on this coaching staff. They have shit the bed against Missouri, Texas A&M and Kent fucking St. Beavs net ranking is at 78. That should improve when the new rankings come out whenever that is.
Current net rankings (losses)
Missouri – 90
Texas A&M – 101
Kent St – 137
St Louis – 105
Arizona – 65
Arizona St – 69
UW – 29
No really bad losses there, but plenty of missed opportunities. Penn (97) and Old Dominion (87) are the best non conference wins. An injury depleted Oregon (57) road win is the best in conference win so far. Had they managed to beat UW maybe the Beavs would be in the discussion.
5 of the last 9 games are against UW, Oregon, USC, Arizona and ASU. Those 5 teams are currently higher in the net rankings. Absolutely CANNOT lose at WSU (219) or home against Cal (267).
Jay Irvine announces he’ll be transferring. Might make it easier to bring in a grad transfer at CB now(Ykili Ross anybody?)
That’s too bad
Only the second time the Beavs have ever won in Boulder and Salt Lake City. I remember the Beavs winning in Boulder a few years ago but I can’t recall when they last won in SLC. Maybe right after they joined the Pac?
How many times have they played in SLC?
found this on the team website…………..
vs. UTAH: Oregon State and Utah meet for the 31st time with the Utes holding an 18-12 advantage, including a 13-1 mark at home. The teams have split the last four meetings.
The Beavers’ lone win in Salt Lake City came on Feb. 4, 2012 when they cruised to a 76-58 victory behind Jared Cunningham’s game-high 20 points.
https://osubeavers.com/news/2019/2/1/mens-basketball-beavers-going-for-road-sweep-saturday-at-utah.aspx?path=mbball
Kinda sorta rings a bell. Something about a monster slam by Cunningham is coming to mind. I watched a highlight video but didn’t see anything. I’m not gonna link it because it gave me painful memories of Ahmad “I never met a shot I didn’t like” Starks.
Nice, thanks.
Given all our great teams in the past I’m surprised we only won twice in Utah.
We must have started playing them more post 1990 when we sucked.
Edit, found this. It lists 25 games not 31. I didn’t realize Utah had that good a school record. I remember the good teams with Van Horn…
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/play-index/matchup_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1950&year_max=2019&school_id=oregon-state&opp_id=utah&comp_school=le&rank_school=ANY&comp_opp=le&rank_opp=ANY&game_type=A&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_overtime=&order_by=date_game
Didn’t one of those teams make it all the way to the title game but lost to Duke? 1999 maybe? I’m too lazy to look it up.
Rick Majerus was a fantastic coach. Pretty sure he was the one that put Utah basketball on the map.
97-98 team, lost to Kentucky in the finals after having a big first half lead. Andre MIller and Michael Doleac were the stars. Beavs played them in Portland and they jumped out to a lead behind Corey Benjamin, but ended up losing 69-61.
Thanks for the link too. I was at that 47-37 loss at Gill in 2015. Probably the ugliest basketball game I’ve been to in person. As a beaver fan I have seen a lot of bad basketball in the last 25 years.
Colorado having no trouble with oregon tonight
Ducks get buttfucked in Boulder 73-51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt4IlxFVT-g
More like ass-raped.
Figured the Beavs won, no mention of it.
Beavs should be bringing in an OL/DL guy from Florida for a visit sometime soon.
No offers as far as I know. He’s a Blue Adams guy.
https://twitter.com/larryblustein/status/1055794749322485761?s=19
5’10 300 lbs. Seriously?
She-it, brother man is my size
What’s the angle here?
Watched film just to humor myself after seeing his size but didn’t see anything to make sense of it. He’s exactly what you’de expect, a D3 level athlete that’s 75 lbs overweight that should take a year off to get in shape and then go play backup linebacker at Lewis and Clark.
I watched the film last night after making this post and had the same thoughts. I’m leaning towards this being a visit that never materializes. Just doesnt make any sense to trip an unathletic kid across the county in hopes they take up a roster spot. You can probably ignore this one
We’re at the point where a friend of a coach has a kid who just wants to be on a D1 roster and has a favor to ask… aka, Mike Riley’s future two-deep while at OSU.
Maybe it’s our strategy to boost attendance. Sign up kids with large families to PWO offers, so you’re guaranteed 4+ more butts in the seats on saturdays
Damn, I jinxed it. Jay Irvine transferring.
Haven’t confirmed it but I think there’s a 5th official visitor this weekend.
Local kid, no offers. Probably another PWO option. Big/slow WR(6’6″ 225 lbs), but I could see him as more of a TE in college. Pretty raw though.
Rocco Carley from Mt Angel.
https://www.hudl.com/profile/6228364/Rocco-Carley/about
Yikes, PWO to Western Oregon maybe. ????
According to this guy, we’re the first team to sweep a Utah/Colorado road trip in the last decade. Was that road trip even a thing, pre-Pac12?
https://twitter.com/AJCrowley42/status/1091922988218212352?s=19
I’m thinking this guy is referring to osu only. UW swept the mountain schools earlier this year.
Good solid win last night. Team responded whenever Utah got any bit of momentum.
Finishing with a winning conference record would be huge. It’s been a very long time since they have had a winning record. They went 9-9 when they made the tourney 3 years ago. Think about that, how far the conference has fallen
The conference fell this year because of a poor non-con schedule, nothing more. Most of the rest of the Pac is in the same situation we are because they too had no business losing some of those non-con games.
Even with the rest of the Pac sucking, if we win any two of our non-con losses, we’re a solid top 40 team. Go undefeated, and we’re top 20(-ish). Right now, we’re a top 70 team looking for the auto-invites to be filled by the favorites. Like the rest of the Pac, we did it to ourselves.
OT- Hekker and Allen face off today…Cooks against his old teammates.
Think the Patriots bottle up Cooks?
Saw there is going to be 11 commercials per half, and a 29 minute halftime. Plenty of rest for the players today. If the Rams aren’t establishing offensive consustency, I suspect these breaks in action will benefit the Patriots D.
I’d like Cooks to pick up a ring, but think the Patriots win again.
I’m thinking Pat’s also. Cooks and a ring would be great. As far as halftime, no thanks. Maroon 5 and who knows what else.
Tedford has hired Langsdorf as the new Fresno st OC?
Oh, good, Fresno will throw for 4,000 yards and finish 6-6 next year.
That poor bastard.
Dang, I was looking forward to his influence at nikegon.
I thought that dope got a pro gig somewhere? Or was that pre Nebraska.
With the recent “semi-success” of MBB, I wanted to confirm the last time they had a winning conference record. 29 fucking years, 1989-90 season. Unbelievable. Call me a skeptic until they get to 10 wins.
Oh ye of little faith…they’ll get their 10 and more.
jinx
WBB, Beavs beat Utah despite very slow start. Pivec/Slocum 33/32 minutes, Corosdale/Goodman 40/38.
14 of 17 FT and only 3 TO’s.
At Stanford and Cal next weekend, then CW.
Who do you guys like in the Super Bowl? I have a man crush on Brady, so I’m rooting for him, but I think the Rams have a better D than the Pats.
Better d? So far rams d playing out of their minds first half. Their d has underperformed all year considering the line they have.
I think they have the better D, and they’ve held Brady to 3 points, so…
Speaking of holding and the Pats O… I don’t think I’ve seen so many stretched jerseys in my life. They finally called a hands to the face late in the game, and the slo-mo/screen shot showed every Pats O-lineman holding in ways that get called on everyone else always… not just in that “you can call holding on every play” kind of way.
I’m surprised Donald and Suh didn’t find a way to fall on the back judge several times. There were a couple plays where Donald was just grabbed by an outreaching arm and spun away from Brady with a grab of his chest plate. It was the most aborted O I’ve ever seen.
The Pats D played really well up front. We really didn’t see anything downfield. I’m guessing that’s because Goff didn’t see anything either.
When Brady throws a pick, you need to turn that into points!
Hoping for a 6-3 game
Man, Goff is sucking. He’s like a deer in headlights out there.
He does look nervous.
I mean, it’s understandable, but you’d think it’d subside by the 4th Q.
I thought that was PI on Cooks…his left arm was held just enough. Damnit. His chance for a TD.
That was a game changer. Pats get the ball back right after that and score/put it away.
Cooks should have had that.
Totally agreed. I don’t care if his are was held or not. Pro WR catch balls like that a lot one-handed. His drop cost the Rams at least a tie and potential OT. Regardless, that was one of the most if not the most uninteresting Super Bowls in history. NFL = No Fun League. NFL is almost unwatchable.
I can see the argument he should have caught it. But I thought his left arm was clearly held in the available film.
Cooks is strong for his size and fundamentally sound usually. The only reason he doesn’t use the left arm up and put left hand on the ball is because he is interfered with. And yes, he better start practicing one handed catches with the football shooter thingy.
Throw the flag. If he catches it, they can refuse the penalty.
This is where the poor officiating continues to cause problems. You compare what happened to Cooks to the rams/saints non-call, and the Cooks hold looks like nothing in comparison. But they were both interference in my opinion.
I’m not invested in NFL football. Just that Cooks is a standout character and one of my all time favorite Beaver football players, would like to have seen him get a ring. Also tired of the whole Bilichek stuff for all the reasons listed below. I watched the last half of the fourth quarter. The only other game I watched was Rams/Chiefs on Monday night.
Oh well. I’ll track Beavers WBB and then see if there’s any interesting developments in Beaver spring football (Gebbia looking like the real deal hopefully).
Definitely a PI on Cooks, yet it doesn’t get called…. fucking Cheatriots win again….put another asterisk on that win. Told my wife no more NFL for me, and she sucks me back in to the Super Bowl party. NFL’s product sucks, refs continuing to make sure to influence the game with atrocious non-calls. There will be rule changes again after the New Oreleans debacle and the “hand to Brady’s face” during the Kansas City game. Ironic there seems to be rule changes whenever the Pats win. ASTERISK!!!!
Football seems to be dying, period.
It was so strong a few years ago. Fantasy football was carrying it, I guess, and people got sick of that.
CTE research has taken a strong hold on parents letting their kids play now. Lots of parents refusing to let their kids plays especially on the west coast.
Benefit to baseball and basketball.
Yes… all those 7-footers who chose football in the past will no migrate to hoops.
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The younger generations and millennials don’t care because their is way too much exposure of sports in general and the grey hairs don’t watch because of the kneeling (shows disrespect I guess) and a lot are racist, even if they don’t try to be. Which leaves the rest of us frustrated by a game that seems to try to be technical, but really is a bunch of boneheads in tights and stripes — like a bad soap opera that rehashes the same stories with different actors/actresses. Only in this case, we are stuck with Brady year after year. The commentators talk as if we have forgotten all the shit and cheating the Patriots did in the past — “Wow it is incredible they are in their 9th Super Bowl in 18 years!!” You mean we are supposed to forgive the whole process, forgive Spygate, the Tuck rule fiasco, Ineligible Indelible, Deflate gate….????. It’s become a game of referee fuckory….what better team to play in the grey areas of the rule book? Who can cheat the best? How many other defending champs can say they got fined, lost draft picks, or got suspended for cheating? It’s ruined the game. Its become a hate-fest, I no longer root for my teams, I end -up rooting against the Patriots on Sunday’s so I won’t have to hear about them winning another Goddamn super bowl. Fuck you NFL and fuck Tom Brady/Bill Bellichick and the striped-zebra they rode in on!!!!!
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You guess?
And that other pass to Cooks was a sure TD, but Goff throw it way too late. Moment seemed too big for Goff. I thought it was there for the taking, Pats were not on their A game on offense. I would have much preferred a NO/KC match-up. Maybe next year.
That was supposed to be the best teams in the nfl? Yikes. Ive seen better football played between sororities. One day an nfl defense will at least try to cover Edelman.
There was a sequence early in the game when NE had 3 consecutive negative yard plays, last of them was a great square up tackle on a screen play. LA was called for a penalty because the reciever was a defenseless player! Romo and Nantz both seemed to agree that the rb needed to have time to catch and step before being tackled. seemed like a big call early that kept momentum for NE.
NFL is now WWF to me. It isn’t completely scripted but outcomes are predetermined in many cases. Especially when it matters most. Blatant blown calls and non-calls may be the death of King Football…
Yup….another perfect example of the rule book and referee fuckery of an otherwise great tackle. Nobody knows what the rules are anymore. That was a great and well timed tackle for loss.
And he kept his head up. Doing so minimized contact and increased the efficiency of the tackle.
Hoops has similar rules for contact to the head. But they have already evolved to call the difference between a normal hoops play and a foul, even correcting the call to the positive if replay warrants it.
So the defenders are supposed to wait and let the guy gather himself before tackling him. I thought the defender did good to bear hug the guy and the helmet touching helmet was incidental. It’s not like the defender came in purposely up high. What else is the defender supposed to do? Dive into the turf given the RB was already very low.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-new-england-patriots-are-the-most-tainted-sports-dynasty-ever
I don’t care about their politics. You’d be hard-pressed to find an NFL owner who isn’t a (real) billionaire in favor of legislation that favors billionaires.
And I wouldn’t blame Brady for any of it. While he greatly benefited from it all, he’s still a great player. I have it on good authority that the NFL knows precisely who fiddles with game balls in what ways, more so since they went to dedicated special teams balls. It was always just the linesman’s judgment that allowed balls to be in play. Several were set aside during games for various inflation issues. It wasn’t until the NFL did nothing about the stealing of signals and playbooks (and lots of other property) that they had to do something.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-coaches-admit-team-stole-play-sheets-during-spygate-era/
I understand the frustration. If the NFL knew about it and let it go on for a period long enough to be called an era, why are the people who created said era allowed to still be a part of your business? There are indications it’s not Kraft.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/robert-kraft-has-called-bill-belichick-a-schmuck-for-past-sins/
It’s pretty much all Bellichick. The NFL should have slapped him with a show-cause enforcement. Instead, we get to hear a story about squishy balls that peters out in court.
Their first three super bowl wins need to be wiped from the record books. The last three wins….they can have, still get an asterisk in my mind. They’ve ruined professional football for me.
Nothing to say about that game other than it’s almost time for baseball!!!!!! But first a few more additions to the football recruiting class.
Anyone considering going to the pac-12 tourney in LV?
I watched the Beavs beat Utah on TV this weekend and I also got to go see the Clippers – Lakers game live last Thursday. I admit I am more of a hockey / football guy now but I used to watch my fair share of basketball when I was younger. The thing that struck me in both basketball games is how the game has changed, and I don’t think for the better, because of the 3 point part of the game. Everything is centered on getting the 3 verses driving to the net. Plus there isn’t as much defensive effort amd rebounding sucks due to everyone being outside trying to set up for the 3. Yeah, I got to see LaBron and all but overall there wasn’t that much of a wow factor… showtime is gone.
Showtime was run and gun. Pros are wimps with entitlement issues nowadays. You ask them to run for 82+ games, you’ll lose the locker room. Running makes millionaires tired… especially millionaires who need to extend their careers to continue their paydays, rather than give a shorter career with higher quality play.
There will be a time in the near future when some management team figures out that putting together a bunch of thoroughbreds who can score lay-ups with frequency will create a team that can run through the NBA for a couple seasons. You just have to find the players who have been broken of their college days (the last time they were the go-to isos) and want to wreak havoc as a team.
I believe the NBA has a problem in messaging because every team has to have some superstar (or hype one who isn’t) in order to market their message… which is basically, “Look at this guy! Come watch him play. Yay… dunks.”
Beavs up to 72 in the net rankings. Still not good enough to even be in the conversation
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings.
Need to get into the mid 40s to be on the bubble. That’s just not going to happen unless they pretty much run the table.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1091734041135628288
Our final 2 2019 scholarships have been claimed, so the class is done at this point. Both are announcing on signing day though, so unfortunately you’ll have to wait for the names. No big surprises. Both are guys are names I’ve mentioned recently as likely class additions.
BTW: Thanks for continuing on providing excellent recruiting coverage. We know the information you provide is as credible as possible. Best of all there is no paywall on any of this information unlike Sedge and Blitz. We appreciate it!
Also, my guess is the following are the signing day commits (even though I would’ve liked a big surprise):
Akili Arnold
Paul Matavo-Poialii
Thx, all i’m gonna say is it would be a surprise to me if we landed PM
Ok, then I guess it’s not PM. haha :)
Beaverblitz has a piece out today where they basically give away who is committing(but couching it as “we believe this will happen”
Make no mistake, they’re telling you exactly what will happen but trying to be clever in their wording so they aren’t considered spoilers.
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/LongFormArticle/Oregon-State-Beavers-Football-2019-Signing-Day-Preview-128729194/
I really hope they have the other schools hats out when they pick osu. It will make my day to show we beat out incarnate word and northern Arizona.
From the LA Times:
“Back-to-back Ls
The defeat marked back-to-back Super Bowl losses for Rams receiver Brandin Cooks, who played for the Patriots last season and was knocked out of last year’s Super Bowl against the Philadelphia Eagles because of a concussion after his only catch.
“It’s disappointing,” said Cooks, who led the Rams with eight receptions for 120 yards. “All that hard work you put in and you get here, and you don’t capitalize.”
Cooks came close to scoring on a long pass from Jared Goff when he briefly got wide open in the end zone. But he unable to hang onto the high throw.
“Just one of those plays,” Cooks said. “Kind of popped open, busted coverage, and just back there waiting for the ball. Not something we expected, so Jared saw it late and, you know, I’ve just got to go up earlier to give myself a better opportunity.”
—Sam Farmer
Getting his kicks
The Rams kept one of their most effective weapons busy much of the night. Unfortunately, that was the right leg of punter Johnny Hekker.
Hekker punted nine times, including on each of the Rams’ first eight drives. No Super Bowl team had ever punted on its first eight possessions.
Hekker’s eighth punt traveled a Super Bowl record 65 yards. It wasn’t much of a consolation prze for the four-time Pro Bowl player from Oregon State.
“It’s nice to have an accolade next to your name, something cool and noteworthy,” Hekker said. “But that punt probably rolled for half the total distance, so I wasn’t too happy with the way that one came off my foot.”
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-super-bowl-notes-20190203-story.html
I was hoping the Rams would win 6-3 and Hekker would be the MVP… lol. Honestly though I think the 2 best teams were the Chiefs and Saints. I believe the Chiefs would have been in it had they won the coin flip in OT.
I was a bit surprised by Nemec’s “hit piece” on recruiting. Anyone know what his issue is?
Although in retrospect, I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised given some of his other hits.
Controversy gets clicks
Prior to this class the average composite ranking over the last 5 years is 57th. There are no 4 star non-qualifiers in this class to bump the ranking up like in years past. Although 67th isn’t ideal it’s pretty much in line with the previous 5 classes. Colorado won the south a couple years ago with 2 classes ranked in the 70’s and Utah’s 2017 class was 67th.
What does it say about their high school player rankings when they have 4 different guys ranked in the top 10 at their position coming out of hs, but then re-rank them 2 years later as 3* prospects. Does it reflect on the players? Or on their rantings system? Honestly don’t know how any of these numbers can be considered meaningful to anybody, except for the purpose of stroking egos and selling subscriptions.
Is he wrong to say the class is underwhelming? (I’m not including transfers).
JS sure isn’t playing the impact recruit game. But he can’t play the diamond in the rough or overlooked strategy anymore. Every prospect is being seen now.
He’s all in on the long game. Relying on the belief he can coach these guys up.
I’m thinking Smith is “all in on the long game”, however, it is much more than coaching these guys up. He’s trying to build a culture of guys who buy in and (like last year) don’t quit. Coaching them up is a big part of getting the attention of top rated talent but building a consistent culture, and selling it is to.
Sorta getting Low Ego/Middle of the Pack Talent in order to attract the elusive Low Ego/High Output guys down the road.
Gotta admit, I have no idea how long that road may turn out to be.
Sounds like Riley…
So far, one big difference: Smith’s team hasn’t quit.
Small sample, I know.
I didn’t mind Riley’s recruiting. It was the lack of a step on their throats, killer instinct mentality that got stale with Riley.
Or Rueck…
This is going to sound like I’m defending Smith but that is not my angle. Being underwhelmed is all that we should expect right now. The program has been through how many coaching changes and we have won how many games? From the natural eye we are probably doing good to get the recruits we are getting. Hopefully once we build identity behind a coach who has stabilized the program and we start winning some games we will start getting the bigger name recruits… but even then we aren’t Uncle Phil’s team or the University of Spoiled Children (USC).
If you look at the height and weight of the players signing today….none are below 6′ and only 2 are 300-330 #’s in weight; everyone else has good weight to height ratio in my mind. They’re looking at body type with multi sport athletic abilities. Jackson Cloyd had offers from Brown, Columbia, Air Force, and Army. This tells me he’s a smart kid and won’t be an issue in the classroom.
Also, Smith is adding needed depth with PWO’s. He’s doing a better job with PWO’s than Scott Frost at Nebraska….and Nebraska was known for their walk-on program. The only difference between Smith and Frost…Smith was a walk-on player who received a scholarship and helped beat ND 41-9 in the Fiesta Bowl. So he’s able to sell to kids, “Hey, I was a walk-on at Oregon State and received a scholarship and the starting role. You come here, you will have the ability to accomplish the same goal.” Smith wants kids who believe in themselves and are teachable just like he was in college. I’m really excited for the upcoming season. We already had 15 early signees, now we have 11 more signees today. 26 guys pledged to play for the Orange and Black. That’s a big signing class, even with PWO’s! When was the last time Riley was able to get a big class with PWO’s like Smith is able to do?
So the highlight of this class are the PWOs??
Sounds like a good start to me. Not saying any of these guys will become a Vander Esch, but Smith seems to be getting hungry players that can fit the mold.
Vander Esch was a walk-on at Boise State, and now starts for the Cowboys. He’s a great story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leighton_Vander_Esch
Wait…maybe he’s Canzano’s unacknowledged son?
*That is to say, Nemec
Nemac’s girlfriend must have dumped him….
It’s called deflecting. Ducks hoops just got smoked and tres won player of the week. Can we all agree to not mention his name ever again….
I get a kick out of every time Alpha calls him “Nemac”
Intentional or not
NEEE-MAC!
New pwo commit Jackson cloud seems like a pretty good pwo player to get. Had offers from other schools that sometimes beat out the beavs. Will follow some of these pwo guys over next couple of years and see if smith can catch lightning in a bottle on a few.
So far James Rawls and Akili Arnold have signed their LOis, plus a bunch of the known PWOs. Updates are in the twitter feed
Akili Arnold looks like a pretty decent pickup
I made a thread for this.