21.Dec.2011 Basketball: Oregon State @ Chicago State

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Jack

I don’t know what to write about this game. To tell the truth, I was disappointed to see it on our schedule. I knew Coach Rob wanted to get back to Chicago this year. But Chicago State? It couldn’t have been Valpo? DePaul? Loyola? Even Notre Dame or Northwestern?

With all the politics of hoops scheduling, I guess it’s what we get.

Maybe next year?

The only thing good about this game is that some prospects in the Chicago area will get to see the Beavs play… and Ahmad will get to go home. I don’t gamble, but I have to imagine there is no line on this game. The Beavs are just expected to win big, and if they don’t they look bad.

Second year head coach Tracy Dildy’s team consists of two returnees, two frosh and eight transfers.

And they’ve been playing like it.

Dildy has been a good recruiter and was an associate head coach for UIC when the Beavs had a foot problem in the closing seconds of a loss there a couple years ago. He has a nice new arena to show off to prospects, and he has a lot of area connections. So he could have CSU on the road to success in the future. But he’s facing more than an uphill battle this year.

Suffice it to say, this should be a blow-out of the 100-50 variety if our boys remain focused and play with a purpose. I don’t know how they do it, but I’m going to assume they don’t have a let down at this point.

Why stop now?

Angry

This game is about one thing: the Beavs fine tuning for conference play. They need to treat Chicago State as if they're Washington. Areas that need improvement before December 29th: boxing out, free throws, rebounding.

Jack brings up a good point regarding Chicago recruits, but that will take care of itself with a good showing. The focus needs to be on refining their game. Want to see the Beavs in a good mental place for that first conference game.

Tipoff is a bit earlier: 5pm.

I don't think there's any TV or streams for tonight's game, so it's either the whining napkin-eater or Game Tracker.

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  • JackBeav says:
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    Do the highlight dunks look anywhere near as cool on Gametracker?

    • angry angry says:
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      They’re not bad; I think a little Foosball looking graphic lays it in.

      • mckalk says:
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        My eight year old actually likes those cheesy graphics better than watching the actual game, go figure! Also, I saw a stat on Chi State’s best player/scorer, that he has 44 turnovers and 6 assists on the year, I wondered if that was a misprint.

  • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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    “whining napkin-eater”

    Was it really necessary to take a shot at the guy during your pre-game write up? Mike Parker made a mistake and has owned up to it. I don’t see the point in piling on unless the fact that he made a mistake last year still really bothers you. Do the Beavs need to fire Mike Parker too?

    • angry angry says:
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      Lighten up, I was practicing my edgy humor.

      • mckalk says:
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        I may be harsh and soul-less, but there is no redemption from napkin eating, that is a cross one must bear for the rest of their existence should they go down the path of becoming an inanimate object eater.

        • angry angry says:
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          Haha. I agree. It was funny/ridiculous.
          Though, I do think napkin-eating is a symptom of a deeper issue that isn’t funny. I took arm-chair psychology 101!

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Should be interesting to see if the three point shooting is as hot as the last couple games. I should suspect it will. Rhys Murphy will get some playing time, hopefully he can find the his three point shot. May need some spot minutes from him this year and to hit some triples on some nights when the other guys don’t have it going from deep.

    What I want to see most is the Beavers come out early and leave no doubt that CSU has no shot. Would love to see this team come out and dominate and keep attacking.

  • sparkyd73 says:
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    is there a link for the audio?

  • slamadam says:
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    anybody else watching north carolina and texas on espn2? unc seems to be handling them pretty easily. whenever i watch them i get the impression rick barnes doesn’t have his team well coached.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      They aren’t. Texas is not a good coached team, ever really. That’s why they often have underachieved in the past.

  • StarcraftSquall says:
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    Good grief, we’re trailing 3-2!? this is TERRIBLE! How can we be behind this team? 😛

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    I’m still trying to figure out how McShane gets into games before Moreland.

    • angry angry says:
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      My theory: McShane comes in when Robinson wants leadership/energy.

      I notice he comes in during lags, and only stays in for a minute or two.

      Could be wrong, but that’s my theory. Media should ask why he plays McShane.

      • slamadam says:
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        more importantly why doesn’t moreland play more?

        • GoBeavs90 says:
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          With how well Collier and Brandt are playing it is hard to get a ton of playing time. Also, Cunningham, Starks and Nelson are playing lights out and Craig wants them on the floor together a lot. The team has reached a point where there is so much talent that there is only so many minutes available.

          • slamadam says:
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            true, since that’s the case though i feel like moreland should be used for those quick bursts rather then mcshane.

      • mckalk says:
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        CR seems to have a man-crush on McShane. I think he really likes the story of a walk-on becoming team captain (and it is a good story), it will be interesting to see if McShane continues to get minutes.

        I think it is pretty obvious this team doesn’t need McShane’s “intangibles” anymore with their talent and motivation. McShane’s lack of skills are kind of getting in the way at this point. Did anyone else notice that McShane played very little against Vandy? I think the same may come to pass against UW and other important league contests.

        • slamadam says:
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          good point. i feel like its pretty clear coach robinson goes a little bit out of his way to get him rotation minutes.

    • LAbeav says:
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      Gotta believe McShane is in these games because he outworks everyone on the team everyday in practice. If you don’t give him court time what kind of message does that send to the rest of the team? I wish this team didn’t need that kind of heavy-handed coaching – but it is a young team a few years removed from disaster and one year removed from a horribly un-motivated senior class.

      • JackBeav says:
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        You guys are missing the team chemistry aspect. McShane isn’t just a manufactured “great story” as a leader on this team. He was thrust there in a moment of frustration two years ago, but he took that role and has been solid as a rock off the court.

        EVERYONE on the team loves McShane. He is the person they go to for a quick one on one for the simplest or most serious problems. He may be marginalized this year, but he still deserves the respect of a couple quality game minutes for what he has done to help make this team what it is right now and in the future.

        Sure, he knows he’s not going to be an all-star. Bill once told me that once he scores two points, he figures he’s got his quota for the night (jokingly of course). But his contributions extend far beyond what you guys see on the court. His time on the court is just his deserved reward.

        Moreland will get more minutes than McShane, but I wouldn’t worry about him coming in before Eric. What many of you probably don’t know is that if it wasn’t for Kevin having some serious talks with Eric, he would already be gone to another school.

        • helmsley says:
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          Thanks, and I hope that is the end of the McShane discussion. In life after OSU and basketball, IMO, Kevin McShane is going to be at the top of whatever ladder he chooses to climb.

  • mckalk says:
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    I know it’s an inferior opponent, but I’m still impressed with the improvement. Remember, the Beavs lost to a team from this league last year (Utah Valley St.).

    • slamadam says:
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      at home

      • mckalk says:
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        And actually Dick Hunsaker is a hell of a coach at Utah Valley St. He was a Rick Majerus assistant for a long time and should have replaced Rick, but was spurned. His son plays for him now.

        • slamadam says:
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          interesting, i do remember that they seemed like they were pretty good, im sure they would beat this chicago state team pretty easily too.

          • mckalk says:
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            Yeah, Hunsaker has been there since they became a 4 year school. Ronnie Price lead the nation in scoring and is in the NBA. They have been able to beat Big Sky teams fairly consistently and beat Arizona St. a few years back. BYU and Utah won’t play them. BYU is literally three miles away from the UVSU campus.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Well, it isn’t really a league but true. I like how the Beavers come out and dominate early and often against inferior teams. Been great improvement in that regard.

      • mckalk says:
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        Don’t tell that to the Great West commissioner! How the hell is New Jersey Tech in the West????

    • angry angry says:
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      Yeah, it’s nice.
      This is how Boise State fans must feel.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Not surprising. The Beavers have lost focus coming out of halftime. Lead down to 20. I expect them to push the lead to 30 or so soon. Just need to get refocused

  • mckalk says:
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    Nitpicking, but Roberto is too good to keep going 1 out of 2 at the line.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Moreland has been turning it over A LOT tonight.

  • mckalk says:
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    They only scored 8 points in the first 8 minutes of the second half….ewwww!

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Moreland has these types of games every once in a while where he doesn’t really do much when he’s out there. He needs to correct this.

  • angry angry says:
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    Bad job in the second half. Good teams don’t lose interest. Not a good sign.

    • slamadam says:
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      that’s why this game shouldn’t have been scheduled to begin with. to be fair i don’t recall them doing this against the other teams they’ve blown out except the pacific game and that was an exhibition.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Beavers starting to regain focus. Issue has been careless turnovers in the second half.

  • mckalk says:
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    I wish I could see what the hell is going on with all of these turnovers. I doubt Chicago St. is a defensive juggernaut, they gave up 105 to a very mediocore DePaul team.

  • mckalk says:
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    Well, it is nice that they can committ 26 turnovers and win easily. Kind of like what UCLA did to the Beavs last year!

  • FatDog says:
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    2nd half was weird. I expected them to roar ahead by 40 and finish with the bench. Sloppy.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Beavers win and are now 10-2. 2nd half wasn’t pretty, but they still won by 26 on the road. Them losing focus in the second half is understandable. Huge lead at the half on the road with a quiet crowd isn’t exactly gonna get them going. They normally step on the throats of teams, so tonight is more of an anomaly. Now it’s time for Pac-12 play. Really excited to see how they do against the Huskies next Thursday.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    OT: The Pac-12 continues to look awful as a whole. ASU blew a double digit second half lead and lost to Fresno State, Oregon is struggling with Prairie View A&M. PVA&M didn’t get its first win vs a division I team until last night. Yikes.

    • osu2008 says:
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      Don’t forget that Washington lost to South Dakota State at home the other night!! This is going to be an interesting conference season.

      • GoBeavs90 says:
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        Yup. Was just mentioning what’s going on tonight. Oregon State has the best win when they beat Texas. Aside from that the conference hasn’t done much in the nonconference. Conference is WIDE OPEN. Chance for the Beavers to do some damage.

  • mckalk says:
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    OT…I just heard that former OSU OC Paul Chryst just got the Pitt HC job. I guess one Riley assistant got a promotion!

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      The wrong one lol. Congrats to him. Will be interesting to see how he does.

  • ean says:
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    Sounds like it was a sloppy game. Like the numbers Murphy put up in 6 minutes. Hopefully the team gets their focus back for Pac-10 play.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I believe the focus will be there for Washington. Considering how middling we have done, at best, in the conference in recent years, they should be scared heading into conference play. But if we sweep that first weekend, it might get hard to retain focus. Might be better to lose that first game.

    Play hard, like we can, and I think conference will be fun.

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