21.Jan.2012 Basketball: USC @ Oregon State

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Game thread.

7:30 tipoff.

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  • homefry homefry says:
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    first…

    to say the Beavs win by an ugly 15.

  • locusimperium says:
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    beavs by 8, go get em!

  • Timber! says:
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    no comment.

  • BeavMonkey says:
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    Umm… you all seriously think the beavers are going to WIN?

    Lol… just cause they won their last game now everybody is overexcited. No worries, it will calm.

    • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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      USC is bad, so that could be part of the optimism people are feeling…

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Picking them to win a game is not being “Overexcited”. Apparently thinking they will beat a bad team in Corvallis is being “overexcited”.

    • homefry homefry says:
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      Just looked at my online sportsbook, OSU -8.5 over/under 128

      Somebody more knowledgeable than I thinks they are going to win-money line to win is 465 to win a $100.

      Should I take the USC line to win, BeavMonkey? wager $100 to win $365…

    • brownale9000 says:
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      good call.

  • Beav05 says:
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    Defense will be the key tonight. I expect them to play man to man the whole way. USC is a poor shooting team. Need to force them into tough shots all night.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Yet somehow they will shoot over 50% from three point range.
      Hope they can get an impressive win. I assume all the football recruits will be at the game. Will help sell the school. Hoping for a blowout.

  • RipCity808 says:
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    The Glove is in the house. Let’s go Beavs.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    F…ing Ducks win. Altman is a hell of a coach.

  • Beavocalypse says:
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    Oh no…people are starting to have expectations again. That means the Beavs lose an ugly one. 85- 68 Fighting Condoms. Recruits that are visiting will be underwhelmed by the crowd and one will decommit. (See:typical Saturday for OSU athletics)

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Sadly, I tend to agree.

      • Beavocalypse says:
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        And that recruit who decommits will be Isaac Seumalo lol

        • CVO beav says:
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          Wow, showing great style. And the fact that the three posters above don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground.

          • Beavocalypse says:
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            And you obviously don’t understand sarcasm, hyperbole, and humor.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    When The Glove is in the building you have to hope fans will be going nuts. I want it to be crazy loud and the crowd completely into it for all 40 minutes. Gary deserves a big welcome and if he starts coming back every year it will be a big boost towards OSU’s goal to restore a strong basketball program. I think we win and play inspired in an electric Gill tonight.

    • Beavocalypse says:
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      In this respect I feel Robinson’s saving grace is his flair for marketing, recruiting, and making OSU attractive to people who Bobby D alienated.

      • helmsley says:
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        Saving grace from his mediocre ability to coach? Interesting O-live article this am – Robinson goes in-depth with the usual yadda yadda but never a reference to any coaching shortcomings by him and his staff.

        • Jack says:
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          Has Robin Pflugrad come out with any mea culpas for his horrible coaching skills? The poor excuses for humans some of the Griz have been this past year reflect directly on their mentor.

          Winning isn’t everything, yet some aren’t satisfied with even that.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Well, it would be a hell of a shame if the team expects to be handed the win, and walks thru an embarassing loss.

    But given the current ebb of my mood, I would be surprised.

    If we can come out and play with energy, I can see a big win. And man that would be good to show the recruits. Comeon, guys….tear em up!!

  • Beav05 says:
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    Heyward salary released – 150k year 1, 160k year 2.

    40k less than any other coach on the UW staff.

  • osbeavs says:
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    Why does anyone think Gill have any energy? I was at the UCLA game and it really lacked energy for most of the game. Further, I was watching the game, in the student section, got pissed off and simply said to my friend, “next time they don’t contest an f****** shot in the paint, I am going to call them out.” Immediately afterward the usher came over to me and said, “sir, if you drop the eff bomb one more time then you will be out.” While I get being upset at the obscenity, she also gave dirty looks to anyone who was overly into the game. Honestly, ushers need to be told to let things go in the student section. If you try to squash the student section, the stadium will never take off.

    Also, I know some people have mentioned this but the clear scouting report on our defense is to simply pass the ball around until our pulls to the strong side to heavily. Immediately kick it to the weak side for an easy three or lane to the rack. How do we fix that poor weak side rotation/play?

    • christianbale says:
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      fbomb, I hate people how say that word. you should have told her to chill the fuck out. freedom of speech.

  • Kenny Beaver says:
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    Has anyone else noticed that Gill is a pit when compared to the other buildings in our conference?
    The Gyms at Cal, Stanford, Washington and now Oregon all look much better on TV than ours. USC also has a new gym and UCLA is updating Pauly. We are getting left behind again while we build a track for no good reason. BDC has his priorities screwed up again. Maybe we should build a new boat house for crew while we are at it.

    • osbeavs says:
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      Track facilities are an interest by many in our fan base (dating back to our strong tradition in the sport). Also, track is a gateway to a number of athletic achievements that would represent our athletic department positively. Not to mention the obvious benefit to our football program. Track is being endowed with donor money targeted specifically for track, thus its slow start.

      Regarding Gill, I like it looking old. Yes, it absolutely needs renovations but the old style gym is awesome and adds to our tradition. Now, I am not opposed to serious renovations but don’t change the look/style.

      • Kenny Beaver says:
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        I think you might be in the minority in what you call “style”, because it is sorely lacking. Next time you are there in the daylight, look at the outside and there is not an appealing look to the building.
        Also, why would we want to bring back track. There has been a woman’s track team on campus now for 4-5 years and they finish last in every conference meet. Now we Colorado in the league and they are one of the best in the country along with Oregon. We can’t win against those two or USC, or UCLA or UW.

      • HopefulBeav says:
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        I agree with osbeavs about Gill. I’m all for upgrading and renovating the building, but I like old school gym look.

        And I think Oregon’s floor looks absolutely awful with all that tree crap around the floor. At first glance it looks like it wasn’t properly finished.

        • Kenny Beaver says:
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          You must be at least 60 years old because young guys would never like that. Guess that is why our fundraising is so under-subscribed by recent grads.

          • osbeavs says:
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            I am 24 and a recent grad. Trust me, I have seen the worst the basketball program has to offer. Have you ever seen midwest basketball with the old fieldhouse type facilities? Gill has that appeal. Yes, the outside is atrocious but the inside has fantastic potential. Why do you think Craig keeps talking it up? The dream would be that place full and rocking; it would be one of the best venues in the conference.

            Regarding track, you are right about the relative success of the women’s program. Consider that some of the women have had some decent individual success as walk-ons in an unsupported program. Imagine what the program would be like with an investment. Our conference rivals may have strong programs right now but we have tradition and history. Type Dick Fosbury into google and read up. You don’t have to be old to appreciate history and tradition…

          • GOBEAVS says:
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            Fast football players like to run track in the offseason. So when offered scholarships to schools with track programs and schools without them, they choose the schools with track programs (i.e. thomas tyner). This is one of the main reasons why the speed difference between UO and OSU has been rapidly increasing. We need a mens track program, gill will be fine.

          • osbeavs says:
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            Exactly, Gill should be in the long term plan for a renovation to get fans to attend but that is purely aesthetic right now. Craig doesn’t seem to be having problems recruiting and a renovation won’t improve his X&O’s.

          • HopefulBeav says:
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            Not even close on the age man. I like the retro-style looks, just like those pro-combat uniforms for the Civil War in ’10.

            In response to your claim that our fundraising is “under-subscribed” by recent grads, I’m not sure where you’re getting that data but I would suspect that the vast majority of people that donate money to the athletic department are going to be older, not younger. Most people want to establish some sort of income and lifestyle for themselves before immediately signing up to donate to the BDC fund.

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Yeah…..that tree-lined floor is an interesting idea, but sucks in reality. It just looks like something really bad happened and they didnt have time to fix it before game time…lol.

          I like the old style Gill, but then I sat in the rafters back in the old days when it was rockin.

    • brownale9000 says:
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      Don’t like the facilities? Cut a check.

      Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

  • FedUpBeav says:
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    You know, I bet Gary Payton would make an incredible AD. Don’t know how much he earns in retirement, but he would be miles better than DeCarolis and recruiting and OSU’s image in the national media would be lifted. Perhaps the next coach after Robinson is another possibility. He is still young enough to have plenty of good years left.

    • osbeavs says:
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      Why not AC Green? He is much more involved and interested in the program.

  • osbeavs says:
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    So no comments about the game but right now we are up 70-51. I like the domination, hopefully they have found their stride. The question is do they stay hungry and confident throughout the rest of league play… Lets hope they had a mini-slump and are over it. I know USC sucks but hopefully this is the type of weekend that they can build off.

  • sparkyd73 says:
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    This was a potential letdown game that didn’t happen. Beavs came in and took care of business, didn’t even let them think they had a chance, no real runs. Good weekend, get back to practice for the week and beat the Ducks next weekend.

  • FatDog says:
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    This was a good weekend for the beavs. Too bad the overtime losses didn’t go our way.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Yup. They could easily be 5-3 in conference play, hell, they probably should be 7-1 if not for a couple poor efforts against the Cougars and Sun Devils. The team is getting better. Tonight they played smarter and even though USC shot in the high 40’s I believe percentage wise, I saw some really good defense being played. Now it’s time for them to be consistent on the road. They have a test in Eugene next Sunday, they need to come out and be aggressive for 40 minutes. They can’t start slow. If they come out aggressive and focused I think they have a great shot to get on a nice roll. Focus has always been a key.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I heard the description of us as “run and gun” … and maybe that is what we are.

    We sure caused USC to commit more turnovers than they usually do.

    A great weekend!! Keep working hard, guys!

  • angry angry says:
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    • osu2008 says:
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      Thanks Angry for posting this! I’m cautiously optimistic that Robinson can turn this around, just need to sweep at home and get some wins on the road. Maybe Payton needs to light a fire under Riley’s butt. Loved the part where he talked about winning football and how it impacts recruiting!

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    Was a good weekend to have some recruits around. Gill was loud and crazy, and we even had some sun today.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Awesome win. Love Payton.. the man!!!

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Yep…. very cool guy. He got interviewed at the half I think, and asked about that 58 points he scored on USC years ago….said we got way behind at the start and USC started talkin trash! he said that really pissed him off…and so he went off on em. Said they woke the beast! Man, thats the kind of player to have….

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        That’s awesome. I had forgot about that, but had heard that story before. He was as dominating as there has every been as as guard in college.

  • Jack says:
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    i guess i can’t be disappointed that we screwed around for most of the second half. But we could have won that game by 40 to 50 if we retained any focus.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I agree. Still, a great win and a nice sweep of the LA schools. Hope we can beat the Quacks.

    • mckalk says:
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      I guess disappointed would be too harsh of a word for me, but still you are not going to win by 40 points when you let the underdog shot 50% on the road. Lots of energy turnovers, and USC fortunately didn’t have any “no names” light it up from three point land, so it was a needed win, but I’m not jumping up and down in my seat. Beat the Ducks and Buffs on the road and then maybe CR has a team that is living up to it’s potential. That ASU loss still sticks in my cray.

  • helmsley says:
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    OSU women’s team won in overtime against USC. I know, I know, the usual response is “who cares?”

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I think it’s great. I want us to be good at everything. Scott R was a great hire and he seems to be very good coach. Is your first name Leona?

    • Timber! says:
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      Rueck ruels

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      The women’s team is a great story, given the situation when the old coach was fired. So….to that extent, I care.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Any rumors about the football visitors? In particular the one where the coach has been sleeping with the recruit’s mom?

    • osbeavs says:
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      At first I thought you were making a veiled reference to a Willie Lyles type thing, lol.

      • Kenny Beaver says:
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        Banker didn’t have protection so he didn’t sleep over. Just like game day.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    JoePa officially dead. What an ending to his tenure.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      Sad. Seems like Joe P. just gave up after the Penn State scandal and firing — lost the desire to fight the cancer and stay alive..

      • osbeavs says:
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        You knew that his life was ultimately tied to his career. He wouldn’t live long after retiring, its sad but he loved coaching as much as life itself.

        • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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          Similar to Bear Bryant. After coaching Alabama to a victory in the Liberty Bowl in December 1982, Bryant retired. After the game, he was asked by a reporter what he planned to do now that he was retired. He replied “Probably croak in a week.” In fact, Bryant died (of a sudden heart attack) four weeks later.

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    Nice win last night. It looks like SC is about ready to fold for the year.

    I have a question. Does MR ever attend any basketball games? I was watching the Duck game with my neighbor, a big Duck, and Kelly was at their game. I thought it was only because the football team was being honored at halftime. He told me that “Chip sits in that same seat at almost every game.”

    I’ve watched all the televised men’s games this year and I don’t recall ever seeing MR or BDC at Gill. If they were there the camera invariably finds them. Anyone know differently? JB

    PS: I think Kenny Beaver is on to something. Gill looks bad by comparison to other PAC-12 venues. Granted winning and atmosphere contribute greatly but something needs to be done. I understand the the locker room and players lounge are very nice and recently updated so maybe recruits will overlook the arena for a few more years.

    • helmsley says:
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      One would assume MR or one of the fb coaches was at the game with the possible recruits. Who knows where BDC is – except for the unscheduled blurb he puts out every so
      often. I always thought ADs were supposed to be out there – actually directing. He’s sortof like a podium-less symphony conductor.

      Re: Gill. A good designer could do wonders with the building and allow it to retain its historic (old) character. For one thing, IMO it’s too junky – sortof like a British knick-knack shop. Give it a clean, spacious, bright look – but first, the practice facility. I’m sending a small contribution this week. I assume, when one donates online and specifies a particular destination, that it actually happens, but who knows?

      • helmsley says:
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        “podium-less symphony conductor ” without a baton.

      • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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        It does looked aged, but I think it can still be a first class facility with some upgrades. I don’t like the idea of a new stadium (I don’t see where we can get the money for that). What it really needs is wider entries. Getting out in the stairwells its way too packed, but I don’t know if you can do that? The bathrooms need to be upgraded and add a few more to keep from the lines backing up too an already crowded hallway. Yeah the seats are small, but even redoing those is something that probably isn’t feaasible.

    • homefry homefry says:
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      Does your neighbor quack you up when he makes a joke? do you use an interpreter?

      What type of Big Duck is he? Muscovy, Saxony, Rouen…?

      These are things AngryBeavers need to know~~

    • Kenny Beaver says:
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      Finally someone not looking at that mausoleum through orange colored glasses!

    • uncanny says:
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      BDC is at every game, he usually hangs out around the floor level entrance to the student section. I will say he does not look like the healthy leader of a D-1 athletic department. As for MR, I have never seen him at Gill.

      • Jack says:
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        MR sits on the top row of the lower section toward the SE side. I think most of the other FB coaches have seats near there, above the lower section but below the midway.

        • Jack says:
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          Sorry, I got turned around. NW side. I think he sits rather near the owner of Lamb’s Markets.

    • slamadam says:
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      ive seen him at game in the past, haven’t made it to one this year though

  • brownale9000 says:
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    I’ve heard Kentrell Brice has given a verbal commitment to Ole Miss today.

    If true, it’s not a shocker…Ole Miss would be the 4th team he’s committed to and he has said he’d prefer to be closer to home.

  • Jack says:
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    I’m not sure what anyone here is looking at when they think Gill is sub-standard. It got a lot of maintenance, and it needs a little more. And the electrical needs to be modernized.

    But it is a classic gym. There are no bad sight-lines in the place. And it can get louder than any arena I’ve ever been to.

    Pauley, when they close off the one end-line, will be the best arena in the league. But Gill is perfect for hoops. And if you’ve been to all the other arenas in the country you would see that old school charm too.

    I personally like only MSG, the Palestra, Pauley and Assembly Hall more than I like Gill.

    Now if we’re talking about the crowd actually getting into the game and making the place live up to its potential… we have a lot of work to do there. CIA, Phog… and, again, MSG are the arenas to emulate in that regard.

    Note: I have not been to CIA since they added air conditioning. It would help my mental image of that place if one didn’t leave that arena smelling like a thrice used sweat sock.

    • Jack says:
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      Oh… and more banners hanging from the ceiling would be nice.

    • Jack says:
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      And thank you to whomever decided to finally cut down those hedges in front. But Gill really needs a marquee and an entrance pavilion.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        I’m with Jack. Why all the hate for Gill? Was out there for the CW in 2010 and thought they did a great job sprucing it up. Practice facility is another topic. Great place for viewing B-ball. Get a capacity crowd like back in the day and it becomes very loud and a tough place for visiting team.

        I love the older venues. They have character and connect to the history of the programs. Amazing how Duke and Kansas can recruit to those dumpy old arenas? Bottom line, you win and it does not matter where you play. We have the same discussion here in Minneapolis. We don’t have and need a B-ball practice facility. However, Williams Arena aka The Barn, is sacred for most of the fan base and is a great venue. Tubby Smith made the mistake of suggesting perhaps it was time to look at replacing
        it shortly after he took the job. Like telling Cubs fans to replace Wrigley.

        • Jack says:
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          The Barn is one of the only raised floor venues I actually like. It’s like a boxing ring in a dimly lit arena.

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    Anyone know where the visitor’s section at Matt Court is, or are all the Beav fans just sitting behind our bench? If so, whom should I contact to sit there?

    And if both of those are no goes, are any of you guys going down? Extra tix?

    Thanks!

    • Jack says:
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      If you can get tix behind the bench, do so. Any lower tier seats along either side are fine, although the bowl is pretty steep for the back of those sections. End lines and especially upper deck seats really suck. Watch it on TV rather than waste your money on those seats. That’s pretty much what you would do in those seats anyway.

      Did I mention that they do have a nice scoreboard and vid screen?

  • Jack says:
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    Vernon Davis is only good now that he is being coached by part of the Mike Riley coaching tree.

    Right?

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