08.Jan.2014 Stanford @ Oregon State

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7pm start on Thursday.

No commentary, as usual, until the team is worth commenting on.

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  • Jack says:
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    29 hours to compile comments about the game?

    This comment does not count.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Only 1 person would have noticed this. Just so happens that 1 person is online today

      • angry angry says:
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        Haha.
        You have to admire Jack’s perspicacity. If only Riley had that attention to detail…

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          thanks for the new vocabulary word. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that word before, but it fits him perfectly.

          • Jack says:
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            It sounds like a condition of sweating a lot brought about by eating a lot of hot peppers.

          • angry angry says:
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            I remember it from the GRE. :/

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Jack showed you his perspicacity?

    • Jack says:
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      I don’t understand the concept. I’d much rather watch a hoops game than a football game though I know the outcome of either going in. I watch Beav football games because I’m emotionally attached. But I think I totaled another 4 to 7 quarters of football for the entire last season except for the obligatory one quarter of Duck football every week I had to watch before my wife was just bored.

      I can’t blame her. Football is just boring.

      As a contrast/comparison, I’ve watched at least 10 full college hoops games in the last five days. I’ve also watched a lot of NFL football, which is not so boring… or so bad as college football.

      • angry angry says:
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        I guess this is all opinion, but I can’t watch NCAA football outside the Beavs. I find the bias and circle-jerk too annoying. NCAA basketball, I am one of those guys who only likes the tournament. But after the first few days I even get sick of that unless there’s a Cinderella still alive. The only sports I watch anymore are NFL (and this likely due to playing in a fantasy league with friends), MLB (my favorite sport by far…I am baseball obsessed), NCAA baseball, and Beaver football.

        Most people consider baseball to be boring. I find it to be an art. It’s all how we’re wired and what stimulates us. I like the slow pace of baseball since I’m naturally anxious/high strung, and I also find it to be artistic in many ways.

        • Jack says:
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          I love baseball and soccer as sports with an “art” aspect attached. In one, there’s a contingency based on every play and many based on the action. In the other, there’s constant action with contingencies based on one or two great plays. I love hoops because there is constant action, but I have to admit the addition of four TV time-outs per stanza just kills the sport. The “art” of calling TOs just goes away with that condition, and it becomes a sport where there can just be too much over-thinking. Still, I love the sport as a pure sport. But the overabundance of TOs is a very real hindrance to its watch-ability.

          If I could, baseball would be a game I would attend all season live. It is best live, and I love the relaxed atmosphere. Watching it on TV is torture unless I’m emotionally involved. I love watching the ball boys play catch with the extra outfielder during breaks, and I love watching the ground crew scrape the paths and the raking the mound. It gives the game purpose and all the fantasy I want from watching an event.

          I almost think attending a polo match and watching people stomping divots makes the event more worthwhile than something like a football game. If it’s not about the spectators, what’s it all about?

          I am fully vested in the Tourney to the point where I have requested days off for the first two weeks fo a couple decades now. I also love Cinderella. But I just know there’s an elevated level of play when those days come.

          I can also expect this from the plethora of regular season games. There is just a lot of compelling play to be had.

          I really wish my team would be one I list as compelling. But oh well.

          • Jack says:
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            And college football is pretty boring unless I’m emotionally attached. It’s just not good sport. It’s boring, and it’s sloppy. Only the emotion can make me an apologist for that sport.

            Watch the NFL. They are very good on every level. To be good on that level takes great effort and ability. You are watching skill against skill, and skill is usually the reason someone wins. Watch the NBA. Those guys make a lot of their shots. It’s like watching a concentrated version of college hoops. If you even remotely entertain the idea that college sports is “better” than pro sports, then you are an immense idiot with little hope for recovery.

          • Beavis 24 says:
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            Bullshit. Just like Charles Barkley said: “White folk don’t want to see guys with cornrows and tattoos who get into trouble.” The NBA is a yawner until the playoffs. Think about it…..do you really think these guys play hard for a full 82 games?? I don’t disagree about the talent level, but there are only a few teams that actually play as a team, and San Antonio is one of them…

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Brady Hoke fires Al Borges as OC and hires Nussmeier from Bama.
            Danny to Bama! Start the rumor.

          • beaverface says:
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            I wish. Looks like it’s going to be Lane Kiffin.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            There’s actually talk that Nick Saban is interviewing Lane Kiffin to replace their OC at Bama. No joke.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            How does that douche bag keep getting jobs?

          • mckalk says:
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            His dad is riding the “defensive genious” moniker into the retirement home. Like father, like son.

          • Sparkyd73 says:
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            He wasn’t a bad OC. He just wasn’t ready to be a head coach.

          • Bill says:
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            Honestly he should go for it.

          • mckalk says:
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            Brady himself will be next if they don’t get their shit together next season.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            You got it.

          • Sparkyd73 says:
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            I guess I’m your idiot then. Side question: do liberals have to sign some sort of pledge that they will call anyone who disagrees with them a “name”? OK, back on topic: Obviously the athletes are better and the caliber of the individual is better in the pro game. But I find the entertainment value of college sports to be of higher quality. Coaches matter more in college and you can often see that difference so much more vividly (unfortunately every time the Beavs take the court and most of the time that our defense takes the field). You never get to see the drama of five smaller, slower kids beat the perennial favorites because of a great gameplan and teamwork in an NBA game. You never see any “real” emotion in the pros either compared to the love of the game you see in college.

            I rarely watch the NBA, occasionally watch some NFL, but I love to watch college hoops and a little more sparingly college football.

          • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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            ” I rarely watch the NBA, occasionally watch some NFL, but I love to watch college hoops and a little more sparingly college football.”

            It shows.

            The only thing college hoops has on the NBA is arena atomsphere, and that is in only about 2/3 of the NBA arenas. The college hoops game is hard to watch, as far coaching, gameplan, and execution. It’s not a bad product if you take it for what its worth. I have seen more “emotion” from a Golden St vs OKC game then I do from most college games, and much better play.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            To answer your first question, no.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            *should be under Sparkyd’s post.

          • Jack says:
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            “I guess I’m your idiot then. Side question: do liberals have to sign some sort of pledge that they will call anyone who disagrees with them a “name”? OK, back on topic: Obviously the athletes are better and the caliber of the individual is better in the pro game. But I find the entertainment value of college sports to be of higher quality. Coaches matter more in college and you can often see that difference so much more vividly (unfortunately every time the Beavs take the court and most of the time that our defense takes the field). You never get to see the drama of five smaller, slower kids beat the perennial favorites because of a great gameplan and teamwork in an NBA game. You never see any “real” emotion in the pros either compared to the love of the game you see in college.

            I rarely watch the NBA, occasionally watch some NFL, but I love to watch college hoops and a little more sparingly college football.”

            I think you confuse yourself here. You say that the pro sports are better, but you say you LIKE the college game more for reasons other than something quantifiable. I too like college sports more, especially if I’m emotionally vested. But I don’t even remotely pretend that it’s better just because I like it more. That would make me an idiot. What I like corresponds to what is a higher quality product sometimes. Sometimes what I like follows irrational parameters, ignoring what is better for what I like instead. But I know the difference between the two.

            And calling a spade a spade has nothing to do with political leanings unless you think said leanings allow one side to just be honest while the other hides behind platitudes. Since you openly agree with me here about the quantifiable argument, you don’t disagree. I don’t know why you think you do.

          • Sparkyd73 says:
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            I was in no way confused Jack. I believe I clearly stated my position, the quality of the individuals are better in the pro’s, the entertainment value for me is higher in the college game. This is clearly my opinion. You don’t seem to understand that calling a spade a spade is one thing, declaring an opinion a fact and calling anyone opposed to your opinion an idiot or any other name – I take exception to. I’ve said it before and I’m sure i will say it again – I like reading some of your post because you are clearly an intelligent and learned individual, but sometimes your arrogance is just a little much for me to let go unchecked.

          • Jack says:
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            “… the quality of the individuals are better in the pro’s, the entertainment value for me is higher in the college game.”

            I didn’t say anything about entertainment value for me or you or anyone. I just said something is better than something. And I am correct about that so definitively that anyone who disagrees also thinks my 8 year-old son can beat me at hoops on any given day… or some given day. That is a fair comparison.

            You obviously know this, so you can’t be my idiot. But you seem to be confused about the whole argument. I say something is better than something. You say you agree, but you say your opinion about what you like has some merit in the discussion as if it’s not an irrational argument. It is irrational. It has no place in this discussion. Good is good. Like is like. The two rarely meet in popular culture. Just think big hair and leg warmers.

          • Jack says:
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            “… the quality of the individuals are better in the pro’s, the entertainment value for me is higher in the college game.”

            I didn’t say anything about entertainment value for me or you or anyone. I just said something is better than something. And I am correct about that so definitively that anyone who disagrees also thinks my 8 year-old son can beat me at hoops on any given day… or some given day. That is a fair comparison.

            You obviously know this, so you can’t be my idiot. But you seem to be confused about the whole argument. I say something is better than something. You say you agree, but you say your opinion about what you like has some merit in the discussion as if it’s not an irrational argument. It is irrational. It has no place in this discussion. Good is good. Like is like. The two rarely meet in popular culture. Just think big hair and leg warmers… or anything 80’s.

          • whiskey soaked naokins says:
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            liberals preach tolerance and understanding. Unless you disagree with them

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          I went to the NCAA tournament games in PDX in 2013. I think it was Indiana vs. VCU, followed by Louisville vs. New Mexico. Turned out to be a great night of basketball and both games went down to the wire. Was really fun to be a part of that crowd, rubbing elbows with fans from different parts of the country. I think it will be back in Portland in 2015 and I’ll definitely be going back. I highly recommend it if you haven’t seen tournament games in person. tickets weren’t hard to come by. I bought them from the box office on game day and they were only a little more expensive than an NBA game (and you get 2 games back to back)

          • Issaquahbeav says:
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            Rather have Sports Action than tourney games

          • Numbers says:
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            You know, that income the Oregon Lottery recieved from the Sports Action was supposed to go towards intstate intercolligate athletics,

          • homefry homefry says:
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            agree-I’ve been to the last two Final fours in San Antonio (98 and 04), and bunch of first round venues in other years. energy level is quite intense, especiualy when an underdog is in the mix.

            98 we were next to last row end zone (actually not a bad location), and 04 we were 10 rows from courtside in the Conn. section…hanging with Rip Hamilton and a couple other guys from the 99 championship team.

            Good times…have some pics of Dickie V. Saw Eddie Sutton (RIP) wandering around wasted at 2:00 am.

        • helmsley says:
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          baseball, how could you not mention – hot summer weather – beer, hot dogs

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Comment on the BB team….. uh….. well, its 5 guys…. and…..

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I haven’t seen Stanford play yet this year. Looks like they beat UConn recently and played pretty even with Michigan. So OSU starts conference play 0-3?

  • Bill says:
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    Keep an eye on this prospect. Jacob Eason. First offer was by OSU.

    Will only be a junior next year. Good looking kid. A mix between Mannion and Vaz. Tall but with a quick release. Doesn’t have great arm strength but that’s only because he’s 15 or 16. Once he develops that arm strength, he’ll be a big time prospect.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Combo of Vaz and Mannion? Balding with a full beard?

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        Doesn’t need to be running for a first down and not touched before fumbling?

    • Mb says:
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      A cross between fumbles a lot and throws lots of picks? Medium height and no wheels?

  • Denial says:
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    USC athletes are back at it again, apparently.
    http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?t=628104

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Riley presser notes:
    Jabral Johnson to move ILB to get Doctor and Alexander on field at same time
    Peko is a recruitable player, and has not enrolled into OSU
    Obum is moving to DE to replace Crichton as that speed rusher, says he thinks he could get up to 245 lbs
    have 20 commits and can fill 5 more spots (note to coach: you only have 75 players on scholarships currently)
    Villamins status remains unchanged, still can’t practice but on Scholarship (thank god we don’t won’t go below the NCAA requirement)
    Linebacker Michael Greer has returned for Winter term (I believe he’s a greyshirt)

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Sapulo will be back for Spring.
      Out of Spring due surgeries include:
      Seumalo, Okonkwo, Mitchell, and Fred Lauina

    • GoBeavs82 says:
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      Gary Horowitz ?tweeted – Riley will have a meeting with LB Joel Skotte and his father Friday, likely to discuss Skotte’s future in football

      What’s up here?

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        Supposedly, there is talk of retiring from football because of concussion syndromes.

    • mckalk says:
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      I thought it was interesting that a 13th game was never even discussed? They had no problem getting one on the books in 2006. I wonder what the concern is…..going 6-7 and missing out on a precious lower tier bowl game?

      I guess it’s probably injuries, but that’s kind of a wimpy way to run a program. Go on the road and get some exposure against someone good. I’m looking forward to that one game in a three week span in October because they decided to take another bye!

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        I said the same thing. Or schedule another home game for some extra scratch. Jesus, the opportunity is there and they are not jumping on this?????

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          Huskies are certainly taking advantage of the “Hawaii exemption”. They added a home game against Georgia State to give them 13.

        • Numbers says:
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          Yet the AD is so poor. Leaving good money on the table here. Fire BDC

          • mckalk says:
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            What drives me crazy is that Riley said “he didn’t even think a 13th game was discussed”. Come on, what bullshit is that? How many times do you play Hawaii on the road in a career?

            Of course it was discussed, it would be irresponsible to not have considered the NCAA perk to add a little revenue to offset travel costs to the Island. The question Lindsay should be asking is why BDC passed on it when he claims the poor house so often.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Exactly. He is a doofus.

      • steveEbeaver says:
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        No controversy here. Why would someone who doesn’t even use live tackling in practice schedule a 13th game?

        • mckalk says:
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          Did the 10 win team in “06 tackle live? 13th game wasn’t a problem for them.

      • trhht says:
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        the difference between 2006 and 2014 is that the conference has a title game now.

        This modifies the schedule and affects bye weeks.

        Not to mention there’s still plenty of time to add a game in the coming months should say a certain coach of a certain basketball need to be let go and get paid. Either way I’m sure ESPN will be calling OSU at some point.

        Get over yourselves.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Lindsay weighs in on Riley’s conference call, touches on his feelings about the staff (surprise, he really likes ’em). She covers a little more than what has been already posted here.

      http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/01/riley_post-2013.html

    • Jack says:
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      Boom to DE? I wish I would have thought of that… three years ago.
      :/

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Interesting how this thread is putting posts out of order. The timestamps are all over the place.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I think Quizz is going to leave early for the pros.

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        He would probably like to leave early from Atlanta. At least he now has an idea of what it would have felt like if he’d stuck around for his senior year at OSU!

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Recruiting news: PO posted that Shane Bowman, Glyeb Ewing, Datrin Guyton, Nick Mitchell all committed will be visiting this weekend as well. Along with recruit Xavier Hawkins WR from TN I will try to post some stuff on Hawkins in the forum soon.

    • helmsley says:
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      Thanks for keeping track of recruits.

    • angry angry says:
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      Dude, email me the info and I will make threads about it. Much better than burying it in the forums.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    holy shit! Colorado playing the boogs in Pullman and it looks like Gill. Extremely empty

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      correction. game was in spokane. No clue why

  • Mb says:
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    NFL way too stage managed and orchestrated. Every costume must match, replays make you think that it is impossible to live without lawyers and appeals courts. Specialization taken to the edge of absurdity. NFL is a parody without the humor. NfFL rules are meant to benefit the spectator and not the participants.

  • OStateJake says:
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    OT, but the ducks are playing Sparty in autzen next fall??

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Also, despite reports, junior college transfer Kyle Peko is not enrolled and not expected for spring workouts.

    Q&A with Riley by fatty……………………

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/01/riley_post-2013.html#incart_river

  • helmsley says:
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    Petrino returns to Louisville.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    James Franklin to Penn(etration) State. That’s too bad. He seems to be the real deal.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Is that really a move up? I am really surprised by this. I know Penn St has more money, but I would think the SEC job is better than the Penn St job? He has shown they can be successful in the SEC, and I would think the next move would be to move to another SEC school?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        A huge step up. 100k+ stadium with a rabid fan base a great, albeit tainted, history.

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    I hate this site….but I keep coming back.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Here is an unrated ATH from South Carolina, scheduled to visit in a couple of weeks
    http://247sports.com/Player/Dre-Massey-35751

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Linday is leaving the O to work for SI.

    Lindsay Schnell (@LindsayRae19) tweeted at 11:58 AM on Thu, Jan 09, 2014:
    I’ll join SI on Feb. 3 to cover college football, college hoops and other fun stuff. Can’t wait. Last day at The Oregonian is Feb. 17.
    (https://twitter.com/LindsayRae19/status/421370379064467456)

    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Schnell moving to SI in Feb.

  • beaverface says:
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    Looks like you won’t have Lindsey to kick around anymore. She’s going to SI. Per P.O. and twitter.

    • whiskey soaked naokins says:
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      good. won’t have to read anymore of her articles that suck on the OS football penis

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    What’s the deal with this thread not posting peoples’ comments chronologically anymore?

  • angry angry says:
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    Jeez. This team is so Jekyll and Hyde.

  • Jack says:
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    “… the quality of the individuals are better in the pro’s, the entertainment value for me is higher in the college game.”

    I didn’t say anything about entertainment value for me or you or anyone. I just said something is better than something. And I am correct about that so definitively that anyone who disagrees also thinks my 8 year-old son can beat me at hoops on any given day… or some given day. That is a fair comparison.

    You obviously know this, so you can’t be my idiot. But you seem to be confused about the whole argument. I say something is better than something. You say you agree, but you say your opinion about what you like has some merit in the discussion as if it’s not an irrational argument. It is irrational. It has no place in this discussion. Good is good. Like is like. The two rarely meet in popular culture. Just think big hair and leg warmers.

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