19.Jan.2014 Oregon @ Oregon State

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5pm tip.

Step right up and watch Craig Robinson get taken to flight school by Altman.

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  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I actually think the Beavs will pull this one off. Oregon has been struggling defending the paint and Moreland and Collier usually play well in the Civil War. This team is frustrated and wants to win bafly, plus its a home game, so they’ll 100’s of fans behind them. Go Beavs!

    • scotty says:
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      POLLYANNA ALERT 😉

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      I would not be surprised if the beavs won either. Due to the fact that neither team plays defense

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    If CR were Riley I would look for a coaching big effort, but its CR so I dont. Still, our guys could pull it off. We will only win occasionally — would be nice to get this one.

  • Sparkyd73 says:
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    Does anyone think that Collier’s issues may be partially caused by CR? He is so quick to go to the hook and playing so many players and specifically with Collier making him a sixth man. I just don’t think Collier is being allowed to work through a bit of adversity and it makes him less valuable and I attribute it to CR. I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      partially yes, but, Collier disappeared last season in Pac-12 play after a monster non conference campaign. I don’t think this is completely on CR.

      • Sparkyd73 says:
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        Didn’t CR make Collier sixth man last year as well?

        I agree that it is not ALL CR. But I think he doesn’t help the situation. Much like he hasn’t worked with Collier to develop the fifteen ft jumper.

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          Without any supporting evidence, I’ve gotten the impression CR doesn’t like Collier all that much. But CR does seem to like Shaftenaar – it’s a mystery to me that Olaf gets so many minutes – his defense doesn’t seem to be all that sound although he does get the occasional rebound and hits an occasional 3.

          • Jack says:
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            For the five minutes Olaf played, 3.5 of it was with Devon. I doubt Collier would like to trade his 20 minutes for Olaf’s five.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Beavs last in defending the 3, Uo first in 3 pct. Beavs go down hard in this one.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Is this an intra-squad game? Black v orange

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Moreland and Collier defending the paint with authority. Beavs up 28-14 with 8-1/2 left in the 1st half

  • scotty says:
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    I must be hallucinating! I’m seeing players in orange PLAYING DEFENSE!

    : o

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      And rebounding

    • angry angry says:
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      Why is it so random? Some nights they do, some they don’t…

      OSU up 30-16? I still think they’ll choke.

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        I think you’ll see some halftime adjustments by Altman. None by OSU. And the duckers will creep back into the game. Kind of like the Cal game. Let’s see if I’m right

        • angry angry says:
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          Sounds about right. Oregon isn’t playing any D…wide open 3s.

          • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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            Both teams are horrible on D. When will the real beavers show up?

          • angry angry says:
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            Yeah this is total street ball. It’s hard to watch. Only the 2nd game I’ve watched this year, and it’s unpleasurable.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Does CR start substituting until he finds a group that doesnt function well? Cant understand the pattern.

  • beav4ever says:
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    CR is an idiot and Berto is getting worse.

  • beav4ever says:
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    I have yet to see CR make half time adjustments so I think advantage Ucks.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Another 2nd half collapse? What coach makes adjustments?

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    I tuned in just in time to see Moreland with a ridiculous block.

  • beav4ever says:
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    What are the Beavs doing on offense? Pound the inside and quit going 1 on 1.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Looks like I tuned in just in time to see the Beavers choke it away.

    • Quatre Quatre says:
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      Nice to be wrong and see MBB actually put a game away.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    well they did let them back in back I don’t think the dicks ever got closer than 5. Beavs hang on and win 80-72

  • scotty says:
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    Duckie RPI is officially dead now LOL

  • RanYakumo says:
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    Can someone tell me how the heck we actually beat the Ducks, of all teams?

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      by scoring more points than they did. ducks do not look like a tourney team. Which is strange because 5 games ago I would have said the opposite.

    • Jack says:
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      Of all teams? They’re tiny, and they can’t play D. Of all teams indeed.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    An ungodly number of turnovers……not the sign of a well coached team. That should have spelled a loss…..but not. Good for the team. Won one in spite of CR!

    And now we are above the Uuks in conference? LOL

  • beav4ever says:
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    I’ve always thought Altman was a good coach but the Ucks look lost

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Next 3 games are very winnable. @WSU, @ UW, and home to USC before UCLA to finish the first half of conference play. IF the beavs can win 3 of those 4, they’d be 5-4 at the turn. I don’t expect that to happen but anything is possible.

    • angry angry says:
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      That’s pretty nuts. Unfortunately they show up every 1 of 10 games.

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        just sayin. Those next 3 opponents are not good teams. UW is probably the best of the 3 and they are average at best.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        Agree. 20 turnovers and all the damn missed layups would cost you most games. If the freethrow and 3 pt %, and suddenly goes down, and we dont get all those blocked shots, we are up shits creek.

        Hey, with the media criticism we now see, like the poll that rang up 70% wanting the axe for CR, maybe he gets into it and really coaches and pushes the players hard. He wins more than he loses to season’s end, and he silences that criticism.

        • angry angry says:
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          I don’t think he knows how to coach, but maybe the team likes the taste of success and shows up to play each night.

  • Sparkyd73 says:
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    I think this is the downside for the ducks getting all of these one and doners. Ducks are talented but shallow.

  • Sparkyd73 says:
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    Was anyone else screaming at the screen to get Barton out and Cook back in? That kid is money, but it is like he goes out for a breather and CR forgets about him. 12 player rotation just is silly.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Yeah. The starting 5 lit it up, so CR subs until he finds a combo that blows. Leave Cook in the whole freakin game.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        Nearly all the minutes went to 7 guys, which I think show progress with CR getting, and keeping, the right guys on the court. I still don’t think Barton should get that many minutes. Cooke had 10 points and 5 assists to 1 turnover in 21 minutes. Not bad.

        • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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          Cooke should be playing more than 21 minutes. I know he’s a frosh but he’s the best option we have at PG and should be playing at least 30 minutes per game. Barton is serviceable, but he’s offensively challenged.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Yeah, I dont really understand the point of trying to bleed the clock by having your PF and C dribbling the ball around the perimeter. Why not just let the guards run around with it? So many boneheaded passes by the Beavs in the last few minutes. How did Brands miss Roberto so badly when Berto was uncovered and only about 6 feet away? How do the end up passing in bounds under Oregon’s hoop into triple coverage when 2 guys were unguarded at mid court? Such sloppy play. This lead would have been totally blown against a decent team. Fortunately, Oregon isnt very good this year.

  • angry angry says:
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    I can’t stand the Beavs’ style (street ball). Wish they’d run set plays and play with energy and discipline. It’s so hard to watch. Glad they won tonight…gotta keep tacking on those wins…I like that they have a top 20 all time program despite 20 years of losing. Of course, each win means more CR. Seems we’re in that position with the two major sports now.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      They are hard to watch, but all of college ball is like that. Five minutes of nothing but fouls, turnovers, missed shots, and poor decisions. Wish the Seniors on this team lead more, often times the young guys look more poise or make better basketball plays.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        ALL of college ball isnt like that. And a good coach, when it starts to get sloppy, settles things down with a timeout, putting in better ball handlers, calling some plays that remind them of the need for discipline….something. That sloppy end to the game is a symptom of loose coaching. Like someone said above, that slop would have cost them the game against a better team.

  • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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    What’s up now mother fuckers? Honestly, this is a so so win vs a bad team. Lots more chances for wins left on the schedule though… *uck the *ucks !!!!

  • helmsley says:
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    I didn’t see or listen to the game but just now checked the score. I also usually look at George Dohrmann’s twitter because he watches Roberto. GD was at Gill tonight! I wonder if Connor knew that and if there might be a story. I would be curious to see if Dohrmann disses CR in that circumstance since he does so without reservation on twitter.

    Given what ab posters said about the rotation tonight – especially after the article stating that CR planned to use fewer players . . . one does wonder.

    • Jack says:
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      The rotation was pretty good tonight. It was primarily seven players, and the other five who played were there only enough to spell the other seven. Olaf got a little extra time because he contributed some good play. But those five got the hook pretty quickly.

      I guess the way to overcome 20 turnovers and what had to be double-digit missed lay-ups was to shoot 87% from the line, 54% from beyond the arc and to have 19 assists on 23 made shots.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Lol! Some of the idiots at pure-hate would take Robinson over Altman. Wow.

    http://www.pure-orange.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi/bschoops?cmd=iYz&aK=1212&iZz=1212&gV=0&kQz=&aO=1&iWz=0

  • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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    I’m headed down to Eugene right now, gonna spray paint GO BEAVS on everything I see until I get arrested!!!

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      hope you don’t get accosted by a drum circle of pot smoking hippies.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Sherman has many faces. Here’s the post game press conference with him after the game last night. I don’t have a hard time believing he has a Stanford degree.

  • Jack says:
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    What’s funny is that Altman lost this game… other than the Ducks just being tiny and relying too much on two or three players. The first was a surprise. The latter was obvious when scouting them. If you shut down Young and Moser and pressure the perimeter, you beat them. You can sacrifice D on the other interior player because you’re not allowing one of the guys who can take over a game to take over a game.

    But when LMW scored on the back door (I still like LMW btw), we were up by 12 with six to play. It finally looked like we were going to close on crunch time. Two fouls, two turnovers and two minutes later, they make a trey to close to seven. And they had the momentum. It was the perfect time for Coach Rob to call a TO. It was time to regroup, settle down, call a set play and put them back on their heels. And it was right at the 4:00 mark, so we get a two-fer to slow their roll as well.

    But Altman called the TO before CR had a chance to do anything. And everything worked in our favor after that. He just killed his team’s momentum and wasted a TO in the process.

    He also apparently stunts the development of his guards. Artis and Dotson are better talents than Loyd and Young, but they have been shot confidence-wise. The rest of the conference now knows that Young disappears if you glue someone to his hip. And Loyd can’t pass to save his life (and he’s so small that someone within five feet of him makes him hesitate on the arc).

    Their team is just a mess right now. And the new emphasis on actually calling the rules as they’re written doesn’t work well with an Altman style of play where you just puch and kick and scrape the hell out of anyone who gets the ball. This game wasn’t as bad as past games where Nikegon just mauled us and walked away without the police even blinking an eye. But they went cheap shot at least once, and they were chattering, jabbing, checking, elbowing and grabbing all game.

    The final four minutes were all Altman. Yes, we made a couple mistakes (Berto with the hand-off?). But it really wasn’t going to end in their favor no matter how long Altman wanted to make that four minutes last.

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      They have no one taller than 6′-8″. That’s one of their biggest issues imo. Teams with a big, aggressive front line can dominate them

    • trhht says:
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      why wouldn’t you like Langston Morris Walker???

      Anyways, Beavs played a solid game, though late game management is a major concern. But U of O starters played an awful game and altman had no answers defensively, this is why OSU won the game with relative ease.

      Dotson should be one of the premier players in the conference, I hope other talented recruits see whats happened with Artis-Jabari-Dotson under Altman.

      • Jack says:
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        Altman has done quite well developing Brown. He’s one of the top players on his team. 😉

        • trhht says:
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          exactly…? Two of them aren’t playing the way they should be and the third got out of town. Top recruits should take not of that.

  • wannabeav says:
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    I hear from my Husky buddy that we lost Shane Bowman to UW

  • GoBeavs82 says:
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    ESPN shows him as a Dawg commit as of today. We needed another QB anyway.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    It’s not a real shock, once Peterson was on him I thought we would lose him.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      Wonder if the staff feels they have enough DL commits now?

      This class will rank 12th in the conference when all said and done. Maybe 11th if Colorado can’t rally.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Back to the JC route to fill up the class.
    3 star CB Demarlon Morris
    3 star DT David Moala
    will all visit along with commit Ryan Nall this weekend.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      After watching Stanford defend the ducks physically and with discipline (staying with assignments, playing with patience, not overrunning the read option) it makes it more clear that OSU needs smarter players so I wonder about some of these JC guys. Particularly when we hear how hard it is to play DT in OSU’s “complex scheme.” Really? It’s hard to understand your role as a DT when you’ve been playing football most of your life?

      Another DT and OSU would be loaded at the position from a numbers standpoint.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT, and stating the obvious, but is everybody else already tired of Richard Sherman and the S-I propaganda machine?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/

    So let’s see: Sherman writes for S-I. Sherman goes off on Crabtree post-game, generating, surprise! attention for himself and his S-I blog. Then Peter King writes about Sherman, who writes for S-I, in an “all eyes on me” piece that reeks of Canzano/Cliff Harris:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Kolton Miller 4star OL commits to Ucks, lost another top talent.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    New commit is coming.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Its Xavier Hawkins. I liked what I saw with his film. cut from the Bolden/Cooks/James Rodgers mold. hopefully plays more like the last two

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    More visitors this weekend:
    Commit Fisiiahi MLB HI
    2 star WR Dre Massey
    3 star DE JC Ronald McNair

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