02.Feb.2014 UCLA @ Oregon State

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11:30am tip.

 

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  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Go Beavs!

    Go CR Go!!

    Go BdC Go!!

    Time to get off your ass Dr. Ray and fire BdC.

    • helmsley says:
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      Does anyone know if, of the 600 or so people reported to have attended the gathering in Portland where the 1 billion dollar fund-raising was celebrated, anyone mentioned the AD to Ed Ray?

  • Jack says:
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    OSU+5.5, o/u at 153.5.

    Both are actually fair numbers, but I’d take the over.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    pencil this one in as a loss. hope im wrong

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    oh almost forgot. Go Broncos!!!!!! Horsepower bitches!!!!!

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      horse power has been more like horse shit

  • Timber2002 says:
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    The B-Ball team has become interesting enough that I am actually going to watch today’s game on TV.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    OT: Philip Seymour Hoffman dead at 46. Heroin is bad folks.

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      According to Dr Drew Pinski, Heroin is not bad for you. It’s just highly addictive. I am not a dr but he actually did say that to a caller on loveline many years ago.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    Beavers go 1-3-1. Music to my ears. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    I’ll be shocked if the Beavs don’t lose by 20.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    At the half Beavs down 31-29, meanwhile the women are up big at Arizona, 58-36.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Jesus, if this team could make FT’s they’d be up double digits

  • angry angry says:
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    For those who have watched all the beav games, are they peaking right now? the seem surprisingly average.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Wow, pac-12 reffing is as bad as the.basketball

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Maybe worse

      • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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        That technical foul call on Collier was a joke. Beavs getting homered at home.

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      agreed. Beavs are getting tip, shaft and balls from an officiating stand point. But if they would actually make their FT’s they wouldn’t be behind.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    College basketball is hard to watch. So many bad turnovers, missed easy shots, missed free throws. Such a lower level of basketball than the nba.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Beavers are resembling a basketball team today. TO’s and FT’s a problem, but good effort on D and on the glass, and some fluidity on offense.

  • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beavs lead 65-58 after an 18-6 run. 2 min left

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Never seen a team play so poorly with a lead. Seriously, inbounding to the wrong team on multiple occasions?

      • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Agreed. Should have won by double digits but turnovers and missed free throws made it close. Lucky that Brandt took that charge with about 15 seconds left as ucla could have taken the lead. Nice win though. I’m happy and we will take it but Jesus if you have a weak ticker don’t watch this team

        • hhfs says:
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          what an awful charge call by the way. Bailed us out big time

          • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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            Yeah it looked like Brandt was still moving but the FUCLA player lowered his shoulder and plowed into him. But it could have gone either way.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Second terrible call on a Nelson blocked shot.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    My goodness we are self destructing.

  • Whiskey soaked napkins Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Jesus fucking tits Helen. Nelson is single handedly trying to lose this game. Is he really this dumb?

  • ChimTen says:
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    You must mean an 11:30AM tip? Would be fun to watch the Beavers play a late night game someday.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Come on Angus…need these!

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    And the missed free throws. 4 straight? This game was the Beavs to win going away and now only 1 up.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Just shitty basketball going on here. Nelson fouled with a chance for 2 ft and 11 seconds. Makes 1st. Timeout ucla

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Beavs up 3, fould for possession with 5 seconds to go. Ucla misses 1st. Dangerous game with our ball handling

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Beavs hold on. Tied for 4th in Pac with about 20 other teams

  • 88timber says:
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    Brandt. Why.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Great finish and I don’t feel bad for ucla but no way did Brandt draw a charge with 15 secs left. He was clearly moving. Bad calls both ways for sure but the beavs got the bad call they needed to win.

    • hhfs says:
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      agreed. pac 12 reffing at its finest.

      wasn’t larry scott supposed to fix this?

    • Jack says:
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      That was actually a decent call. And it made up for Alford grabbing LMW from behind and pulling him to the ground when LMW had a sure O board on the other end.

      The rule for charging when the defender is moving applies to when the ball handler is making a normal move–rising to shoot a lay-up or trying to dribble around the defender. Adams made a bad mistake by putting his shoulder down and accelerating into the hit. If he would have gone up with the ball he would have got the call. Angus got the call because he maintained the integrity of his position by not including his arms and legs in the contact and remaining upright. Adams still had a play to avoid Angus or to go up and take contact, but he chose to make an out of control hit instead. The call should always go to the player who is demonstrating controlled play.

      • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        agreed and why I thought it was the correct call. Had the FUCLA player not lowered the shoulder and just gone up with the shot even if he initiated the contact, then a block would have been the correct call. But with these Pac-12 refs you just never know and why I thought it could have gone either way.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Cooke led all scorers with 20. Moreland with a double double. Overall a step forward. I didn’t think this team could win if Roberto only scored 12.

    • mckalk says:
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      They kind of won in spite of Roberto today.. Lots of standing around on his part, sloppy passes all through out the game. Two missed free throws and an awful in bounds pass in crunch time. UCLA had him out of rhythm. Nice to see others step up.

  • mckalk says:
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    Cooke is the pure, “normal” outsider shooter I’ve been bitching about needing for the last few years. None of Roberto’s set shots or Starks fall back threes. Just nice form on open looks and surprisingly there is now some consistency. It also took CR long enough to realize Barton is worth about 5 minutes a game.

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      I like Cooke as well. Talented and hopefully will only get better. Challe Barton should not see the floor imo. Just too limited offensively. wasted schollie

      • mckalk says:
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        LMW has a nice stroke also. Looking forward to seeing if they can develop further.

        • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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          yeah. initially early last year I though Jarmal Reid showed the most upside of the frosh. But he can’t hit the broadside of a barn. I was way off on that one.

  • Mb says:
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    Need ball handler and distributor more than shooters. Never the less, good job Beavers!

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Rumors floating that Delp committed this weekend on his OV. Anyone else hearing anything?

    • angry angry says:
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      yes, heard he committed.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Cool. Anybody hear of any potential poaches from our commits.

        • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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          The ones I’ve heard of who are getting looks are Kalani Vakameilalo by UW; Bright Ugwoegbu by Oklahoma; Datrin Guyton by TCU and Texas; Jonathan Willis by Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Kansas State; Glyeb Ewing by Iowa State and Iowa.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Wow. Denver looks like shit.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Only bet I lost today? Beavers game

  • Homefry Homefry says:
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    Had I bet on the beavers they would’ve lost by 20. Fortunately the only wager lost yesterday was Russell Wilson over 32 yards rushing-he had 26.
    Half-full: after the Beavs give up 13 straight in the first half, they come back with the run of their own. Didn’t expect that. Winning in spite of the FT % and Nelson’s game.
    Half empty: turnovers (too much dribbling) , FT % and they can’t close.

    Bottom line-home sweep of LA schools, who in AB nation predicted that?

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Does Scout know what sign Delp is throwing up in this picture? Finally a recruit Whiskey can get excited about:

    http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182&p=2&c=1371896&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2foregonstate.scout.com%2f2%2f1371896.html

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      two in the pink, one in the stink

    • bone says:
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      That’s actually suppose to be a “pitchfork”

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      ASU fans have been using the “shocker/pitchfork” hand gesture for quite awhile. It sounds like it started showing up back in the 70’s, which would mean it predates the “shocker” right?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork_%28hand_gesture%29

      Cue the Jack comment about pitchforks vs. tridents in 3……2…….

      • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I remember seeing the Wichita State cheerleaders doing that during the NCAA tournament several years back. Most people didn’t even know what it meant until after that.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      He is practicing his order for In N Out. “Double with cheese Holms.” MR’s secret code.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    OT: Eggers reports on Casey’s thoughts about replacing JRod at C. Eggers doesn’t mention Esposito, says, “Leading the way at catcher is Logan Ice…”. And quotes Casey as saying, “I like him more than anyone else…”

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/209474-67152-pat-caseys-beavers-on-a-high-ranking-earlier-than-ever

    • Jack says:
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      Ice must have a good arm and call a good game, because I don’t see 5’9″ and 170# blocking the plate that much.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Jake R was not a giant either and he did ok. Plus how can you not start a guy named Ice?

        • Jack says:
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          Jake was probably the same height or thereabout. But he was a solid 200# and built like a fireplug.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            No wonder dogs kept pissing on him.

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            A couple things:

            1) I agree Ice must have a good arm, mainly because it seemed Esposito was pretty good in that aspect of the game. BTW I’ll be pleasantly surprised if either Ice or Espo builds the kind of record JRod did in both throwing out base runners and blocking the plate. Additionally, he was a heck of a field general, IMHO.

            2) What’s the story with new rules regarding blocking the plate? Do they apply to the college game? Are they effective this year?

          • Jack says:
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            MLB rules are actually catching up with NCAA rules on this one. NCAA rules say that a runner can make contact with a fielder who has possession of the ball and is in the path of the runner. But the runner needs to make an attempt to reach the base, and when a runner initiates contact above the waist it is not considered making an attempt to reach the base.

            If the defender does not have possession of the ball, then he is impeding the runner’s path.

            The thing about Jake “blocking” the plate was that he was very good at putting a leg out in order to force the runner to take a wider angle at the plate. He was rarely knocked off that leg by contact due to his strength. If Ice can learn to leverage that position as well, then size isn’t a huge thing. But he can be swept off by legal contact if he’s lighter than he should be.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Ducks losing preseason all American (3rd team) LHP for season for TJ surgery

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      *Cole Irvin*

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Don’t wish a lost season, even on a uck. But, I’m beginning to think this is the year the ucks stub their webbed toe……..as in no post season play.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Disappointing return on investment for Uncle Phil this year. Near Civil War loss and Alamo Bowl against a depleted Texas team, followed by likely no post season for basketball and baseball.

        • hhfs says:
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          basketball is still projected to make the tournament.

          baseball is in top 15

          football finished #9

          Umm, name all the schools doing better than that

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Considering football was crowning themselves national championship contenders all year, and basketball was projected to be a tourney team but sits at 9th in the Pac, and baseball just lost one of their top 3 pitchers before the season starts, I’d say its been a bit of a downer year for UO.

            When’s the last time a conference sent their 9th place team to the big dance?

          • Jack says:
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            Off the top of my head… Big East sent UCONN at #9. Of course, winning the conference tourney helped, but they also sent Nova and Marquette as the 10th and 11th place teams in the conference.

          • Jack says:
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            That was in 2011 btw.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Ok, how about from a conference with fewer than 16 total teams?

          • hhfs says:
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            you do realize Duck basketball still has a top 50 RPI and are currently last four in on bracketology? (That’s as a 9th place team)

            If this is a down year for Oregon, I wish the beavs a horrible year.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Why are you even here Duck boy?

          • hhfs says:
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            haha. Not a Duck fan but I guess I’ve made my point?

      • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        good. fuck em. We all know the real reason they brought back baseball

  • ObjCritic says:
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    The Sporting News has a 3 round mock draft, with Cooks going to Seattle at the end of Round 1, Chricton to Minnesota at #72….

    Cooks to Seattle is fun, but if I were Seattle, I’d get Seastrunk at the end of Rd 1. Someday the Beast (Lynch) is going to get injured, and Seastrunk seems like a viable long-run threat. Then they could get Cooks later, moving up to trade. I think Cooks would be better than Tate, a nice compliment to Kearse and Harvin (who seems injury prone).

  • hhfs says:
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    Does 6-3 get the Beavs to the NCAA tournament???

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      no.

      • helmsley says:
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        I think the NCAA tournament would set them up for failure. I’d rather see them in the NIT and win at least a couple. Not saying they’ll have that opportunity even, just a thought.

    • Jack says:
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      21 wins and at least .500 in conference should get us to the bubble. It all depends on who else is there with us… if it ever comes to that.

      With the Pac tourney, that would mean 8-1 with a tourney loss, 7-2+1, 6-3+2 or 5-4+3. Four Pac tourney wins gets us in regardless.

      It won’t happen, but if we win out the Dance would take us in a heartbeat without considering the Pac tourney.

      • hhfs says:
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        Not gonna win out but say Beavs do something like this:

        Split ASU/UA
        Beat UO
        Sweep Washington schools
        Split LA Schools
        Split or sweep Arizona schools at home

        Say a 6-3 or 5-4 finish.

        Say we play someone like USC in the Pac 12 tournament. Beavers get a win, play Cal. Do we have to beat Cal? I say so if we finished 9-9 in regular season.

        There’s 7 Pac 12 teams in top 5 of the RPI, more than any conference. Beavers need to separate themselves. Sweeping ASU would be a critical step.

        (I expect a 4-5 finish and a 1-1 pac 12 tournament finish, consideration for NIT but not invited. BDC commends Craig. 2014-15 season is a 7 win conference team. BDC commends Craig. 2015-16 team is a 8 win team and things get interesting)

  • Jack says:
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    ?
    https://twitter.com/ASCCoaches/status/430488465936248832

  • KC says:
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    Oregonian says that Xavier Hawkins scored 57.3 points per game. Is that a typo? Holy good Lord!

    • whatever says:
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      The team scored 57.3 points per game. Xavier scored 37 touchdowns in 15 games, so 14.8 per game.

  • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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    Tosh Lupoi must have worn out his knee pads

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24429005/lupoi-talks-about-being-cleared-and-a-six-week-nightmare

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Check out @beaverkman’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/beaverkman/status/430553854418362368

    http://247sports.com/Player/Xavier-Crawford-30266

    Xavier Crawford Safety, has flipped from SDS to OSU.
    Here is his profile, he’s a two or three star.

    .

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      247 has him listed as being from Pittsburg, CA. Is this the work of coach Simonton?

      Speaking of Simonto, I’d love to see him coaching running backs some day. Anybody know if he aspires to be a college coach? He’d he a helluva recruiter. That guy has a gift for gab.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Check out @beaverkman’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/beaverkman/status/430565186580119552

    Kicker from Los Angeles, according to his Twitter has commit. I don’t know if it’s a full ride or partial.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      According Mama he will walk-on in Fall, and earn a scholarship for Winter term.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Sounds like he’s a walkon hoping for a scholarship in winter 2015.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      How do you replace the irreplaceable Lettuce Boy? A heart attack in every kick. MR needs to send him to a sports head shrink for an offseason tune up.

      • Jack says:
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        He’s a P, not a K. We already have Owens to replace Romaine.

        But what it might mean is that Seeley won’t get a ship, will transfer somewhere else where they can see his talent… and become a two-time Ray Guy Award winner and unanimous All-American.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Olive sums it up nicely with a sentence buried in the standard “riley-turns-over-rocks-finds-diamonds-in-the-rough” story:

    “Much of OSU’s class is filled with players disregarded by BCS programs for various reasons. They were often deemed too short, too weak or too slow.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/02/oregon_state_football_only_a_f.html

    And Banker is “Recruiter of the year” for getting the incoming Hawaii recruits:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/02/oregon_state_beavers_rundown_f_11.html

    How about that, Banker wins something….

    • Jack says:
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      It’s unlike Connor (from the limited work I’ve seen) to write such a jumbled mess with no corroboration. He did it yesterday too when he wrote that Crawford’s commitment was broken by Harris Ross on twitter when that was obviously not true.

      Fisiiahi is the best player out of Hawai’i by far. You talk to anyone in that state following football, and they don’t hesitate. The kid going to Wazzu is probably the second best, and Williams would likely be the third. Those three are football players who are more polished than Vakameilalo. But the talk is that Vakameilalo has the most potential because his strength and athleticism are natural, farm boy type attributes.

      Has anyone here ever heard of Hawai’i kids having problems making it academically… more so than any other state? That was one wholesale shit claim. Maybe OSU goes after marginal students who are great athletes because other schools have a better litter to pick from and don’t have to wait until two weeks before signing day to see if their kid is good to go? I wonder if this topic has ever been broached anywhere.

      270 pounds is almost ideal for Olinemen who are going to red shirt (and even DTs if their skills warrant D1 consideration). It’s not unnatural for a kid with a good frame to add 20 to 30 pounds in a year at school. 250# and less is just absurd. 20 to 30 pounds is normal for that age. But putting on good weight beyond that is hard unless certain chemical enhancements occur. If I’m a coach, I like that 6’5-6″ 270# smart kid for my Oline because I know his weight is natural and I can manage it from here on out. I think that kind of kid should be about 40-50% of your Oline class every year. I loved Andrews, Weinreich and Bays supplemented by Mitchell, Eldridge and some kid named Isaac. You have room for development and can take hits like attrition and injury if you have an Oline class like this every year (4-6 kids). It’s not like we haven’t done it before, so I don’t know why we don’t have that class every year. Practice makes perfect. Spot work every other or third year makes for this kind of excuse for inconsistent recruiting.

      Reading Eggers’ article the other day, I figured Moore would be the second TE in the class with Knight. That would make the most sense. It’s an old Tom Osborne method. Get an underweight Olineman with great athleticism to be your blocking TE.

      And this is the second time I’ve seen Demarlon Morris’ name spelled incorrectly.

      Ugh!

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    BTW, I don’t know if there’s any significant difference between Rivals’ ratings and Scouts’, but I see Scout has about 19 of OSU’s commitments as 3*, eight as 2*. I’ve generally been of the opinion that a well-coached OSU team with 3* talent could get to the rose bowl, and it seems that my “impressions” of this class are lower than Scouts. Seems like a lot of developmental prospects, but I’m not sure if that’s a luxury OSU can afford unless they are incredibly fortunate and avoid injuries.

    I haven’t watched a lot of film on this class and am looking forward to more informed opinions from individuals on this site when the letters are in.

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