11.Feb.2014 Rod Perry, Revisited

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People are acting like this guy is the second coming…

From Mamma Machado, regarding Garrett, but she touches on Perry:

Recruiting is the big question mark here. The NFL is a completely different beast…coaches have to coach and game plan, that’s it. In college, not only do they have to coach and game plan, they are helping to mentor 105 young men, evaluate and recruit. It can be a tough transition for many NFL lifers. Some love it, others…not so much. Coach Perry has made the transition, but he’s been aided a great deal by the help of his sons who help with a lot of the day to day ‘stuff’ with recruiting.

Fascinating that his kids help. Also, as a reader pointed out, rivals makes lists of which coach landed a recruit. Perry’s is impressive, but let’s assume his sons helped out…there is also this, regarding which coach gets credit for a singee: I remember this being brought up on their boards, and they said they really don’t have any way of knowing. The consensus was that multiple coaches evaluate and help recruit a player.

So who knows. How I read all this is that he’s been fine, but getting by with a little help from his friends.

Now let’s look at the defensive numbers:

In 2013, OSU ranked 87th in passing defense: http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category02/sort01.html

In 2012, OSU ranked 50th in passing defense: http://www.cfbstats.com/2012/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category02/sort01.html

They also ranked really poorly (#102) in “long passing plays” http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category32/sort01.html…they were 39th the year before, which is respectable but not great.

Yes, a lot of that depends on what the guys up front are doing, etc etc.

The only noticeable improvement I have seen under Perry is that guy’s play the ball more. He’s been fine…I’m not complaining about the guy, but in relation to Garrett, fans are saying things like “You guys didn’t like Perry blah blah”…well, I think many of us wanted a recruiter over a coach. That’s why we were down on Perry. And secondly, he has been fine but not great so far.

Great players make coaches look like geniuses. OSU needs better players more than they need great coaches. I’m not down on Perry, but I don’t think of him as either a great recruiter or great coach (okay recruiter, good coach), and after hearing the talk above from rivals I understand why I have that perception (wink wink).

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  • angry says:
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    Good interview with Mamma Machado: https://soundcloud.com/danforthdirt-sprague/inside-osu-beaverblitzs-angie

    She isn’t high on Garrett. Says fans need to take a wait and see approach. Also says Perry gets help recruiting. Some other good bits. Nice work, MM.

  • RanYakumo says:
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    I’m personally taking a wait and see approach to this. Then again, I’m willing to take almost anyone over Langsdorf.

    • angry says:
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      I agree, but if Brennen is so pissed he takes another job it’s not a 1 for 1.

      • RanYakumo says:
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        Definitely will agree with that. Do you think he’ll actually leave though? I personally think he won’t, but I’ve been wrong about this sort of thing before.

  • Mb says:
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    When Angry rips off his mask, who is underneath?

  • Bill says:
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    Did everyone miss that Garrett has 4 years of recruiting experience at Virginia? So he can’t be thrown in the same vein as Perry who was out of the college game for decades. Garrett was at UVA from 04-07.

    • angry says:
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      It looks like he had 3 years, and landed 1 recruit during that time.
      I’m sure he’s awesome at everything because he chose OSU. Back to burying our heads in the sand, guys.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    For some this source will be old news, but here is a link to salaries of asst. coaches.

    Read paid 70% more than either Seumalo, Brennan, or Brasfield??

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/salaries/ncaaf/assistant/

  • beaverkman says:
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    I don’t know enough about Garrett to have an opinion on whether he will make a good college coach or not. What I am pleasantly surprised is that Riley went against the grain and didn’t promote from within, which many of us thought he would continue to do. Now it’s not like he doesn’t know him at all, but like in most businesses networking comes down to who you know.

    I have a feeling that Riley was surprised even himself. I think he was set on promoting from within, but then he realized that (despite the media who think nobody wants to come here to Corvally) he gota big response from others who wanted the job. He then got a wider range of candidates and it broaden his view of the position. I commend him on that if that is the case.

    I also believe he reallybis a QB coach with the title of OC, so they can offer him more money. Riley will continue to do the gameplan and will let him work slowly into the play calling.

    If Brennan is so upset about being passed over and leaves more power to him. I respect that Riley didn’t do what was expected. Is it a good hire, only time will tell. But I have clamored for change in the staff and he has done that and it’s a little outside of the box, so I can give a pass and wait and see how it goes.

    Is the hire exactly what I wanted to see? No, but is he another Langsdorf? Who knows…
    Those are my initial thoughts, I might change my mind if others build a case otherwise.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I can’t believe anybody much cares what she thinks. I suspect that as usual, it will take a Kerry Eggers column, nearly a week down the road, to get the deeper context and background on this OC hire.

    I am interested in Riley’s process. For example, at a minimum, I’d have explicit criteria for what I wanted in a candidate expect to spend an entire day on the FIRST interview, asking the candidate to explain their offensive philosophy, how it was informed, and how they implement it in game planning, in-game adjustments, player evaluation and selection, what is their rule awareness, and communication style with co-workers and players. THEN if the first day went well, I’d bring them back and have them diagramming plays in front of coaching staff and responding to situational play calling. I’d have other staff have roles and input in the process. I’d do this with 3- 5 candidates. This could be done via video conference, but I’d want the candidates there in person.

    Now I understand this isn’t EXACTLY how it should go and I am doubtlessly not identifying some key considerations, but the point is, did Riley have a thorough process, or is it more good-old boy system and who you know?

    I am curious if Riley is required to interview minority candidates for a position like this, and finally, will a full list of candidates interviewed be published?

  • osbeavs says:
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    Regarding Perry you are mostly right but you can’t hold him totally accountable for the pass D ranking. Banker works with the DBs quite a bit too (especially the safeties, who ironically are the weak part of the group). I think the fairer (and more subjective) judgement of Perry is the eyeball test of CBs on the field. They look good. The assessment that he is a good coach and okay recruiter is accurate though.

  • Calibeav03 says:
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    Interesting tidbit about Garret from Cowboys SB Nation site

    “In 2011, he interviewed for the then vacant offensive coordinator role for the Miami Dolphins, and reports at the time were that he was strongly being considered for the job. The Cowboys then preempted the Dolphins’ decision by promoting Garrett to passing game coordinator.”

  • beaverteeth says:
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    I don’t really care what anyone specifically said about Perry.

    I just think we should all learn that sometimes credibility can mean more than past commits in the recruiting world. Perry has been a solid recruiter, and to me, the corners have significantly improved. The safeties are still a weak point. All and all very pleased with Perry.

    As for Garrett, not very excited about him but again, you never know how it will play out.

    Lets all just settle down with the drama.

    Now how do you all feel about Cavanaugh? Good riddens? Don’t go, save us? Solid coach on a solid pay scale? Bruce Read’s salary is screwing good coaches again? He’s bitter about being passed over for the OC job? Ok State is simply offering 3 times as much $? This deserves a thread, not Rod PErry.

  • Jack says:
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    I think Cav made somewhere around $260k (plus bowl bonus) this last year. oSu was paying Wickline $200k more than that. So they have some money to throw around for the spot.

    I don’t know how I feel about Cav potentially leaving. He’s proven to be a decent recruiter. But our Oline recruits have only really impressed me once… comparatively. He brought Perry with a decommit from Hawai’i when he came to Corvallis. Then we spent several years suffering Juco misses and injured incoming frosh, resulting in the walk-on line that was not coached well. That poor line was the only reason we finally got off our butts and got the 2009 class. And they were pretty good on paper. But that was all we had along with sparse pickings until 2012, which was just a monster Oline class. Then 2013 was light but singularly excellent (Harlow). And now 2014 is just very good with the potential to be excellent over time. This class is what we should be getting every year. Then we should add the occasional blue chip on top of that.

    It should have always been that way. That it wasn’t and is still getting there pains me to no end. That the on-field performance has dropped off since those he inherited from Gilstrap graduated also gives me pause about his actual coaching abilities. I think Gilstrap would never have had a 2010 or 2011 line, and he would have really coached up the 2009 and 2012 classes… plus all the same types in between.

    But we’re told he’s a great coach, and oSu is drinking that kool-aid as well. So maybe he is?

  • Jack says:
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    Hey BG… Vaughn to UNLV?

    What up man?

    • Beavergopher says:
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      About as surprising as a blizzard in January. His handler got a job at Findlay Prep so the writing was on the wall. A lot of drama with this kid so nobody is too disappointed. Been there done that with Kris Humphries. The one that bummed us out was Reid Travis. The scuttlebutt in town was that he really wanted to stay home, but mom insisted on Stanford. Hard to argue with mom. Great kid and he would have been a starter from day one. Pitino Jr and Sr are steering recruits each others way.
      Piper, the kid from Seattle , was at the IU game and was blown away by all accounts.
      So far it looks like our AD hit a home run with the b-ball hire. Next up: a new woman’s coach.

      • Jack says:
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        Shhhhh!!!!

        Tubby Smith is the best Minnie could ever expect to get. Who else are they going to get for that kind of money? What kid is going to want to go to school where you have to shovel a snow tunnel from your front door to your mailbox in the winter… and then shovel again after the plows go by? Have some realistic expectations UM fans. Come one now.

  • beaverkman says:
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    OT:
    @COUGFANcom
    Gresham, Ore., kicker Zach Standish accepted a preferred walk-on spot with Oregon State last night. Had same invite from #Wazzu

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Any news on Cav?

  • Jack says:
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    So… should we perform the exercise that is sure to guarantee Cav stays at OSU?

    Let’s come up with a list of replacements. I’ll start by throwing out a name I’m pretty sure would never be considered by OSU, let alone him considering coming to the NW.

    Brent Key

    Two months ago I would have said James Spady for my number one through ten spots on my hypothetical list. But that ship sailed last month.

    • beaverkman says:
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      Pat Pearles, Keith Carter, Alex Gibbs, Press Taylor

      • Jack says:
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        I think Perles is going to Toronto.

        Carter is a good suggestion.

        Is Gibbs still coaching?

        Press Taylor for the Oline?

        My two would be Jason Lenzmeier and Cam Norcross.

  • WorldBeav says:
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    All this talk about football when Baseball is just around the corner.

    More baseball!

    And I can’t believe I’m about to type this about any OSU team but – The rich getting richer:

    http://goo.gl/xLI8SW

    I’ve been excited about this team since last season ended and it looks like The Beavs are just continuing to reload after this season. There’re some very good prospects on this list.

    • Jack says:
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      The baseball post is the next one.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Fortunately, Casey doesn’t realize Corvallis isn’t a destination place where you can attract talent and contend for league titles…Ralph Miller was apparently unaware of that fact as well.

      • Jack says:
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        That Prothro guy had a hard time finding the best player in college football too. And it was always according to location.

        I mean… he only had the best for two out of how many years of coaching?

        I would call that a failure.

  • Jack says:
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    OT… I think this is an appropriate use of the hashtag.
    https://twitter.com/smackajaweaa/status/433776022920523776

  • Jack says:
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    So… OT… I don’t like this rule as written. I do like the spirit of it though. But I’m not worried about player safety. I think if you play the sport the best athletes in the world play, then the best athletes in the world should be able to play non-stop for a full game.

    But enough about futbol.

    I think the refs are the ones who have been short changed over the last couple years. And I think it shows in their performance. Too many times this past year I’ve watched refs spot balls more than one yard away from where the ball went down. And coaches can’t call them on the spot for every single bad call. I think this has come around with hurry-up offenses yacking at refs to move the chains on their schedule.

    I don’t think penalizing teams for playing quickly helps. But I do think anyone who yaks at refs to hustle should be penalized. Refs should be given the time to move the chains and get set in proper positions before the ball is snapped.

    This takes an executive mandate, not a penalty for some team who wants to move quickly. Wait until the chains are moved and the refs are in place before you start the clock. Then let fly what flies.

    If they’re truly worried about player safety and quick snaps (which they’re not), then make a rule allowing for subs within a certain period. There’s no complaint on my end about “changing” football because the amped snap teams are the ones changing football. Anything slowing them down takes it back to the sport it always was.

    • beaverkman says:
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      I agree, I think the chains being in place should signal the start of the next play. That would make the play more consistent. It would have a procedure in practice that would be uniformed. I have seen the umpire spot the ball and the ref clock the play clock at different times.

      I think they should be more concerned with keeping the clock running after first downs rather than stopping it.

  • BeaverBill says:
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    So when are they making Garrett official. Seems weird it is taking so long to be official. I wonder if something is up.

    • beaverkman says:
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      I think I saw something somewhere it said the process might take awhile as they put the deal together. I am guessing it might have something to do with Garrett’s compensation since he has two positions.

    • Bill says:
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      They have to do a background check first. That takes a little bit of time. Can’t risk going through what happened to George O’Leary many years ago.

    • bendbeaver says:
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      Grades?

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    BASEBALL: Just got confirmation that Jay Reese will pinch hit for Parker while he finishes out the basketball season.

    And, a piece on UCLA’s problems:
    http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_baseball/2014/2/12/5403086/ucla-baseball-2014-season-preview

  • Jack says:
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    Aaaaand… SI has officially jumped the shark.
    http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/AP_barbie_sports_illustrated_sr_140212_16x9_992.jpg

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