01.Apr.2014 Spring Practice Day 1

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Hearing it was a “laid back” practice without much to report.

Here‘s some info on Garrett fitting in. More on him and Mannion. I’ll reserve judgment on Garrett until we see the offense. Sounds like Riley will continue to call the plays. While in the past I thought Riley was an asset as a play-caller, I don’t feel as strongly about it after last year.

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  • ObjCritic says:
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    Eggers with some good dope as per usual:

    Del Rio encouraging with “cannon arm,” Hunter Jarmon giving up baseball…we may have to call Peko “Mongo:”

    “There was no sign of defensive tackle Kyle Peko, but all is not lost. Peko, a transfer from Cerritos (Calif.) College, thought he had completed necessary classwork to be eligible this spring, but the NCAA didn’t count one of his classes as necessary core work. One source said Peko was expected to take the class at OSU this spring. ”

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/215556-75017-qb-del-rio-makes-impression-at-oregon-state

    Maybe all the Beavers need for training camp is a montage? (see: Team America)

    • angry angry says:
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      thought he had completed necessary classwork to be eligible this spring

      Peko is dumb as a rock. The guy can’t even figure out what classes count as core. It’s very simple to do. And if you can’t figure it out, go to an adviser.

      • ean says:
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        He will be eligible once he is enrolled at OSU… the handlers will see to that.

      • whiskeysoakednapkins whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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        I believe I stated that months ago.

  • angry angry says:
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    “I heard he was in town and texted him,” Mannion said. “It was a cool deal.”

    Mannion talking like Riley now?

    What a not so neat deal for fans.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      The continuum of deals: Sick deal>cool deal>neat deal.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Monty Hall would have been a good fit on the coaching staff.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          How can anybody give a thumbs down to the host of Let’s Make a Deal?

  • wannabeav says:
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    After seeing Eggers’ piece I was struck by the ever increasing gap between his coverage and what you see in the Gazette, and especially o-live. Now, I’m in favor of giving young people a break and start in life as much as the next guy, but it’s almost painful comparing what an accomplished professional can do vs. the “kids” right out of college.

    And yes, Angry, I did notice the broad popular appeal of paying attention to the details. who knows, maybe tracking time-out near the end of halves will be next.

    Heretofore I’ve had low expectations for this coming season but after reading Eggers I’m kinda enthused.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Happens every spring, only to be shot down in September.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      It is refreshing because Riley himself has been criticized here – and fairly – for not being detail-oriented.

      I am enthused, but also am concerned about autumn reality….

    • GoBeavs82 says:
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      Speaking of expectations – the Daily Olympian had an article on Petersen and the Montlake Fusky’s in todays paper. 2 weeks into springs and he is NOT happy with where they are at – has much higher expectation. We should see a strong team in Seattle this year and the QB should be back with the team now that the charges are being dropped due to a lack of evidence to prosecute.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    I sounds to me like it was less laid back/more focused then previous years thanks to Garrett.

    Also, how can anyone be sure who our play caller has been the last 5 years? Seems like it’s been been a consensus effort between Riley and Langs, which may explains why the offense often times lacked rhythm/continuity?

  • bone says:
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    The whole “focusing on fundamentals” is something that has been said every year on the first day of practice both fall and spring.

    But good to hear Garrett wanting perfection.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      It seems, from the reactions and comments, that maybe it was said in previous years but not actually done.

      • bone says:
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        It’s actually done.

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Ok, I believe ya — but the comments and reactions seem to make it look like this year is different. Is that just more attention to details in fundamentals? But seems to me not paying attention to details….and its not fundamentals.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Pray for no injuries in the spring. My Gophers lost the starting WLB to a torn ACL the second week of practice. Not many positions where the Beavs can absorb injuries without a serious drop off.
    How many years in a row have we been fighting the lack of depth on the O line. Major recruiting fail.

  • bone says:
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    OT. Snoop Dogg’s (Lions?) son has Oregon State is his top 5 for college destinations (highly unlikely, but we are there). I would want to the see the interaction between Snoop and Mike Riley.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      I was going to mention that too. Would be funny to see Snoop Lion in the stands at Reser on gamedays supporting lil snoopy snoop. Would be cool from a press standpoint.

      Wonder what happened with Oregon? I thought they were at the top of his list a few months ago and now their out. Kinda strange…

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        Could it be another instance of folks from outside of the state not knowing the difference between Oregon State and Oregon?

        • bone says:
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          I’m going with the Brandin Cooks effect.

          • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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            I agree. As a receiver I wouldn’t ignore 2 blitnekoff winners in 10 years.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            The Chainsaw song did it.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            It didn’t go over well in Oregon, but the SoCal kids love that stuff.

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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            5 new medicinal 420 storefronts may not hurt either if snoop is counting.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            haha

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          I’ve heard through more than one source that snoop is/has been in contact with D. Thomas during his tenure at duck high. I’m sure he’s been learning as much as he can about that program and may have gotten some good inside feedback this way, possibly steering his son away from that program for whatever reason.

      • Calibeav says:
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        His kid is not that good. I’ve seen him play in person down here a handful of times and he pretty much gets shut down against D1 comp. Against Norwalk in particular he had 1 catch against a dude with no D1 offers. That is why he is transferring to Vegas to play his senior year.

        Looks like the name is generating the hype and the stars..

        I LOVED this quote from Garrett. If the work matches the rhetoric look out!!

        ” We’re in search of the perfect play,” Garrett said. “The perfect rep. The perfect technique. The perfect game. We’re never going to get there, but it’s the pursuit of that which is always the carrot that makes you play better.”

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209449686

    John Garret talks about changes/tweaks he’s like to see in the Oregon State offense.
    Talks about implementing a version of the spread, which the team will refer to as the Gaping Beaver.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Ha Ha, the Beavers running the spread, Happy April Fool’s Day to you too!

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      The Kim Kardashian offense?

    • Jack says:
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      Is it too early to say the people who wanted Danny to move along for the last several years were just plain wrong?

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        Eh? Garrett, paying attention to and insisting on details in fundamentals is a step down from Langsdorf?? How dat be?

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Peko on campus now, lifting with the team.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/04/kyle_peko_enrolls_at_oregon_st.html

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Angry. You start a pool about him actually ever playing a down for the Mighty Beavers of Oregon State. Count me as skeptical.

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        I’m in, who’s collecting?

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          Peko pairs up with Simi Kuli in the wt room …..and is never seen again…..

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      “Lifting with the team”, I hope it’s the type of lifting that does not involve merchandise.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      So the class English class he took, that the NCAA refused to give him credit for, was a class that OSU people told him he needed to take before coming to OSU? WTF? Sounds more like OSU’s f-up than Peko’s on this one.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        Yeah…..like someone said above, any questions about the credit a class gets, you just fucking ask. Peko OR the school, this is a moronic fuckup.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        OSU needs smart players. Might be good if People pulls a Bigfoot and disappears after this brief sighting.

        • ObjCritic says:
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          “PEKO” not “people,” damn spell check.

  • CmonBeavs says:
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    Beavers leading the Pilots 7-2 in the 5th

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    With Espy off of suspension, a little surprising that Ice was left in till the b8.

    Schultz getting hit in the b9. 9-5 now.

    • CmonBeavs says:
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      Yeskie bringing in Schultz there made very little sense. His decisions with the ‘Pen this year have not been good. Fox was pitching fine. Taking him out with a 7 run lead in the 9th was weird. Fox and Reser should probably get more opportunities out of the bullpen but probably won’t get it

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/04/example_of_new_oregon_state_be.html

    Hey, Gina, are you reading AB ?

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Haven’t read it, does she reference ‘Stormy”?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        If we have to suffer with a female beat writer, is it too much to ask that she at least be hot?

        • Calibeav says:
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          Uncalled for…….. But true very very true

        • helmsley says:
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          I’ve been waiting for that and it’s predictably from you. I think her writing is better than LS’s and she has followed up on some AB concerns; reporting on process like attention to detail and fundamentals, for example. Besides, she seems to have a really nice personality! I, too, would like someone who seems to be more football oriented rather than so much human interest stuff. The Oregonian must feel compelled to have a female beat writer.Why is it always for the Beavs, though?

          • Jack says:
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            With the O essentially becoming Beaverbyte, I couldn’t care less if the beat “writer” is male, female, good or bad looking. Does s/he know about the people and sports s/he’s covering? Does s/he relay that info efficiently and without any bias? Does s/he ask pertinent questions regardless of her or his “knowing” s/he’ll “lose access” or just not get an answer?

            That (and not hearing about fashion) is all I care about. What we don’t need is a reporter who just chums around with the other reporters during practices, feels honored to be in the presence of players and coaches and seeks their approval… and then hangs out at the catering table for the freebies.

            Although, the last one can be done if the others are complete. Reporters are there to literally question authority.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            For the football beat, it would be nice to have somebody that played the game at least through high school. Having actually participated in an activity gives one insight to ask better questions that might not occur to the casual fan and gives some cred when questioning the players and coaches.

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            So far Gina’s reports and tweets have been, primarily, a combo of speculation and straight reporting of what the staff has said. It may be too soon to expect much more, but I don’t think she has presented any analysis or much beyond what any listener can gain from the posted interviews.

            I’ve asked her about the worth of Read (and how Riley evaluates him and the rest of the staff) and to look into the “Riley call plays….without a cheat sheet” question. We’ll see if she comes up with anything. And, I note, she posted the piece on “first time ever for ball security drills” some 20 hours after it was mentioned here.

          • GOBeavs GOBeavs says:
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            Um, you realize the quote is from a video made by the Oregonian… Just because she took a while to put that in article form doesn’t mean that this site somehow got the scoop first. LOL.

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            Um, actually, the quote and video was available from several sources. It was the typical interview we have often seen where players and coaches are made available to all media. The quote from Woods wasn’t in response to a specific, penetrating question, rather just a general comment.

            My point about the 20 hour delay was that this article was no “scoop” ferreted out by a top notch beat reporter who had developed valuable sources within the team. It could (only could) have been a point seized upon by a reporter who is taking cues from what is seen here on AB. Or, it could be a point which any FB fan ( even lacking journalistic cred) would notice.

            Again, “It may be too soon to expect much more, but I don’t think she has presented any analysis or much beyond what any listener can gain from the posted interviews.”

            BTW, did anyone learn ANYTHING from the Gina/Connor video report on day 2???
            LOL

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            One more thought on Woods remark about “first time” ball security drill. Wouldn’t it be expected that at least one of the reporters, upon hearing that statement, would ask for clarification? Get some depth to the meaning of what might be seen as a bombshell revelation?

            I’ve said from the start that there could be some overreaction here; could have been minimized by a followup question or two.

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      From the link:

      ” A 15-minute ball security circuit drill, something Storm Woods and Terron Ward both voluntarily highlighted in separate interviews.

      “We’ve never had that,” Ward said. “But it’s good. Ball security is (the) No. 1 (priority).”

      Added Woods: “That’s the first time I’ve ever (done) that … I think by him being so technical, it enhances everybody’s football IQ.”

      ….they have NEVER had such a basic drill????? Jesus H Riley….

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        That was my point when I posted the following the other day, you can follow the link to hear for yourself Woods remark:

        An example of things which need to be addressed may be ball security. Here is a link to Woods saying they had a 15 minute exercise today which focused on ball security. At about 1:43 he says, “That’s the first time I’ve ever did that”.

        Hmmmm…….can that be possible, never? I hope I’m overreacting. At any rate, it is good to see an emphasis on fundamentals, and reports are that fundamentals were addressed in several areas.

        http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/03/oregon_state_beavers_football_147.html

        • Bill says:
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          I don’t recall fumbles being a real issue last year or in the last few years for the rbs anyway.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            No fumbles in the past few years? I seem to recall speculation and comment about why a particular RB isnt playing, as due to fumbleites … a fumble in practice might lead to the use of an alternate, slower running back. So I think fumbles are an issue.

          • bone says:
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            I am going to go out on a limb and assume you are talking about Malcolm Agnew. He also struggled in the passing game, both blocking and receiving, also had troubles staying on the field because of his health. That opened the door for Ward and eventually Woods, who I think are a little more complete backs than Agnew was. And since that 2011 season where Agnew did have a fumbling problem, I would say fumbling and ball security hasn’t been an issue.

            I was at practice today, working on the write-up now.

          • oneoldbeav says:
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            I was guessing rsteve meant Chris Brown.

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            You are probably right now that I read his comment again. But my point kind of remains the same, he struggles with pass protection, which is a big part of playing running back in the Beavers offense. Going to majority of the summer practices last season fumbling wasn’t something I saw from Brown or any running back really. Brown had a bit of a uphill battle because he is behind two backs who had success in PAC 12 play. I just don’t think he is better than Woods and Ward right now.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Well, my notion is that you dont wait until you lose games by fumbles, to work on such a basic skill. I am frankly appalled that this is a new innovation, only got by changing coaches.

            We have griped before, many times, about Beaver players seeming to not have basic skills. But it does fit with Riley’s apparent philosoohy of letting the players “find” themselves, and the team finding an identity. Glad to see a better philosophy surface.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            Cool, thanks for the practice write up.

            I wonder if Woods is just too tentative after concussions, which could be understandable if he’s about more than football. His tentativeness makes me wish he were 3rd string or used primarily on passing downs. The challenge there is giving people roles without making the play-calling too predictable, but I see opportunities where he might just be a check down outlet, or he might really be the primary receiver.

            I’d much rather see Ward as #1 and Brown as #2 getting opportunities to do what he does best – run the ball. If that’s too predictable(?), then the OLine needs to be capable of run-blocking when people expect a run, and that would be a refreshing change. Are those kinds of changes too much to pin on Garrett?

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            Well at least when Quizz was there ball securtiy drills were a waste of time, but his ability to not fumble was otherworldly.

      • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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        You should see our players throw water balloons though. They can hang with the best of them

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Heh, heh, Eggers tweets, “Jeff Hendrix makes uncle Jimi proud while hitting .460 for @CaseysCorner5’s Oregon State baseball crew http://www.pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/215762-75528-walk-on-hendrix-in-the-center-of-things-at-oregon-state …”

    Links to his story in the Trib.

  • Jack says:
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    For the record…

    I would really like to see this kid doing this on the same floor for years to come.
    http://instagram.com/p/mMZEh0x0sg/#

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT, but I’m sure some people here can come up with a good slogan for Eugene:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/travel/index.ssf/2014/04/eugene_needs_city_slogan_updat.html

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      “Eugene…………why do think the state legalized suicide?”

    • Jack says:
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      I found this.
      http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~ocomment/ocarchive/oc98_99/oc11_12_98_16.html

      It’s interesting that even 15 years ago this town was just one endless strip mall. I think it’s also funny that he describes it as Medford with some health food stores. While the culture isn’t as devoid, it sure looks a lot like it.

      • Jack says:
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        Eugene… one big strip mall with some health food stores sprinkled in.”

      • Mb says:
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        Snobbish Jack. Poor Medford. No coronation but comparison , not favorably with Genie.

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        And it was about this time that the Hyundai and Sony plants were given huge tax subsidies against considerable opposition. The problem being the large corporations had full-time employee advocates and opponents had to mount their campaign after work and family obligations. The companies are no longer in Eugene. City planners funneled everything to Springfield – whose actual main street was crumbling service stations and garages – so they created a highway culture subdivision. Historic neighborhoods became highway feeder streets. End of story.

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    • ObjCritic says:
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      Wow. That’s an image open to interpretation….

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        It looks like Sean has shortened his delivery a bit. They are practicing ball security when getting sacked. With the unsettled and young line this year, unfortunately that may be a skill they use often.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Dayman, ah ahhh ahhhhhhh. Gimme that leg boy!

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        Looks like one of the Beaver handlers mentioned earlier. Checking Sean’s kegel exercises as part of the new attention to detail.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I was just going to suggest a caption contest. Here’s mine:

      Sean: “And people wonder why I came back for my last year of eligibility…”

      Sean: “It’s good to be first string.”

      Scruffy Dude: “I’m going to get a schollie for this, right?!?”

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Garret seeking perfection? Now Doctor wanting best run-D in nation?!?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/04/with_extra_season_oregon_state.html#incart_river

    Who are these guys and what have they done with our Beavers?

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    OT but posted for Beavergopher’s continuing education http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/mar/proteins-discovered-gonorrhea-may-offer-new-approach-treatment

  • Jack says:
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    OT… UCLA hoops in the news… kinda.
    http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/4/2/5564376/tyler-honeycutt-agent-ucla

    It doesn’t look like it’s going to affect the school much other than some vacated wins and paying back Tourney earnings.
    http://www.ocregister.com/ucla/fallout-608097-honeycutt-likely.html

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      Were any of the vacated wins against the Beavs? BDC will want to revise his CR state of the union address and pad the stats some more!

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        The NCAA has yet to look into this latest bit with any actual documentation finally coming forward. But I would suppose any vacated wins would be from fall 2009 to spring 2011.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Daily Barometer does a better analysis of reasons to can CR than was done by the paid scribes.
    Headline, “Ignorance abound in Robinson’s retention”

    http://www.dailybarometer.com/sports/ignorance-abound-in-robinson-s-retention/article_b7411094-badb-11e3-892e-001a4bcf6878.html?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_campaign=hootsuite

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      Great article. Maybe they can clone Ralph Miller from a pack of cigarettes? Beavers need “something” to improve the basketball program into the top 4 of the PAC12. Even the top half.

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        Cigarettes? Not just any cigarettes, Ralph smoked More extra long filters for that easy tobacco taste.

    • NCAA_viOlation NCAA_viOlation says:
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      Im not used to seeing the barometer call out their own. Its nice too see

    • helmsley says:
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      Excellent, especially the part where BDC could have said firing CR is unaffordable. Ed Ray might not read sports blogs or columnists but I hope he reads the university’s own.

  • mckalk says:
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    If I was MR I wouldn’t be that enthused about all of this “detail blather”, it implies that detail was not there before. I thought football success was dependent upon the details. I’m really curious to see if Garrett is some type of a break through for the team, then I would hope that Banker is next to hit the road and maybe Read or Cavanaugh after that. Beaver coaching is stagnant. Unless of course MR just calls it a day instead of moving the less detail-oriented along.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I was thinking the same thing.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Tough shit MR, it’s clear it wasn’t there before. It’s evident in the remarks of the players and in the team’s inability to do something as fundamental as manage the clock or call a timeout. Or in getting a delay of game AFTER a timeout….

      It doesn’t do the program any good to lie to itself. Maybe the emperor just added an article of clothing. We can hope its underwear, though they probably say “Neat Deal!” on them….

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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      Problem, however , it’s sort of a double edged sword…

      If the Beavs have moderate success, say 8-4, no pac-12 title, will he say “That hire was the difference, everything else is golden.” And not get rid of the other dead wood to reach 10-2 or better?

      If the Beavs don’t have success, say 6-6 or worse, will he say, “Allowing fresh blood in hurt the program’s continuity, it was too much too soon.” Scrapping any idea of ever hiring from outside?

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT: Cameron Oliver commits to “University of Oregon State!”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/04/oregon_state_basketball_lands.html

    Cameron, meet your new friend, Kyle Peko….

  • mb says:
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    IF MR decides to call plays, will he be detail oriented enough to use a play card on the sidelines or will he continue to wing it?

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Kerry transposed the classes for Ward and Woods. Oops.

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