24.Aug.2014 End of Camp Notes

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From Bone. Thanks for this.

A few updates now that camp has officially ended.
• Vanderveen appears to have the backup spot locked up. After having a pretty good scrimmage, he has continued to play with more and more confidence. Looks much better than Del Rio at this point.
• It doesn’t sound like there will be a redemption season for Romaine. Let the Garrett Owens show begin.
• Ending fall camp with very few injuries. Even with the increase in contact in practice
• Bolden and Mullaney are locks to start at receiver. Gilmore and Jarmon will probably see a lot of reps in the game because Jarmon was out for about a week. Both Mullaney and Bolen have looked good since they started practicing again.
• My under the radar receiver who I think could end up making an impact down the road is Kendall Hill. Converted safety who has had knee injuries the last two years. Very smooth athlete, good size, with great coordination. It might not be this year because he is still learning the playbook, but I like what I see.
• We will probably only see Haskins in goal line and short yardage situations, he is mostly working with the scout team.
Here is how the defense is looking.
Defensive Tackle
• They have done a good job at controlling the line of scrimmage all camp. They also are constantly in the backfield, especially the defensive tackles. Delva, Hautau, Grimble, all look much improved from last year. I think Peko is going to live up to the hype. He has the type of body you want at defensive tackle, and he (along with Grimble) has very nimble feet. This might be the strongest group we have had at this position in a while. Expect a lot of rotation with theses four players
Defensive ends
• You know what you will get out of Dylan Wynn, a rock solid player who doesn’t makes mistakes. James looks like he could be a contributor and Gwacham looks like he can handle defensive end just fine. The line is just missing a playmaker like they had in Creighton, need to wait for games to see who steps up and takes the spot.
Linebackers
• This might have been the most fun defensive position to watch for me. They are really getting after it, you can see influence that Bray has had on them the last three seasons. They play pissed off, fly to the ball, and really improved in pass coverage. Jabral Johnson will slide to the outside if Doctor or Alexander miss time and Rommel Mageo plays in the middle.
Corners
• Little concerning, only four corners were practicing outside of the scout team. Nelson, Scott, Williams, and Marable. Hunt is still nursing his injury and hasn’t seen the field really at all during camp. Nelson and Scott both are playing at a very high level, especially Nelson. Very rarely are passes completed against him. From what I have seen with the corners as well as the linebackers is the level play up and down the depth chart has improved, I accredit that to better coaching from Perry and Bray. Even players like Marable are playing at a higher a higher level than I anticipated.
Safeties
• Another really deep position group. With the lack of corners, there will be a lot of safeties playing in the nickel and dime packages. In the nickel they bring in Zach Robinson and move Murphy to the down in the slot. Victor Butler’s little brother has been making a ton of plays all camp, he could see some time. I think this is the deepest position group on the team, not linebackers.
In all honesty, I can see this being one of the top defenses in the conference, there just seems to be a different attitude from all levels of the defense. They are returning 9 starters with a ton of starts, improved the big area of weakness at DT, along with the return of Doctor is huge. If they can find someone who is able to get pressure on the quarterback at the end opposite of Wynn, this will be a fun defense to watch.

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  • angry angry says:
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    This might be the strongest group we have had at this position in a while. Expect a lot of rotation with theses four players

    Agreed, DT is a strong point. Also agree defense should be good. I am most worried about OL given the offense holes or time to do anything.

    Where’s Nall been playing most? I assume no redshirt for him…?

    • bone says:
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      The OL is starting to come along, it looked pretty brutal early, but a couple people got healthy that really boosted their play.

      Nall has been mostly working at TE and RB, but would mostly likely see the field as a kick returner. He is one of the players Riley has under “Redshirt Alert” meaning he will suit up and play him only if its absolutely necessary, saving his redshirt.

      • bone says:
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        Xavier Hawkins and Dwayne Williams also fall under the “redshirt alert”. Shouldn’t any true freshman playing this year.

      • angry angry says:
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        Is Bolden the primary kick returner? What about punts?

        • bone says:
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          Last week it was mostly Rommel Dockery, transfer from WSU who was returning both punts and kicks.

          • HopefulBeav says:
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            Is Dockery getting much time rotating among the first and second string WRs? Or is it looking like he will mostly be a special teams player this year?

          • bone says:
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            Yeah Dockery is getting most of the backup reps, both he and Hawkins are getting reps there.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Thanks for the excellent report. Excited about the DT rotation as well. It will be interesting to see the influence of the new OC.

            Bone, what is the deal with Anderson? Prior to his knee injury, he was turning into a great weapon.
            Has he been practicing at all?

          • bone says:
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            We hasn’t been the last week and a half or so. Actually injured himself catching a touchdown.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        I was interpreting “redshirt alert” to mean that they’re pretty sure they’re going to play. Maybe not, though:
        http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_put_three.html

        • bone says:
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          They won’t be playing scout team, they will dress for games and travel to away games. Similar to what they did with Brandon Arnold and Sean Harlow last season., Harlow ended up being needed and Arnold didn’t. These players aren’t going to be your average redshirt freshman.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    The defense is the reason I’m cautiously optimistic about this team’s chances at a 10+ win season. Barring multiple catastrophic injuries this should be one of the best defensive units we’ve had in quite some time. It’s really exciting to read about the DT’s coming along and Bray’s influence on the attitude and intensity of the LB’s. Hopefully this defensive unit can help give the offense some slack while they get things figured out. I know everyone’s looking for Mannion to have a big senior season finale, and I think having Garrett as OC will help him a lot. I’m sure Garrett is smart enough to know how important establishing a run game is going to be in order for Mannion to succeed (and actually establishing a run, not just saying how badly you need to do it after every game only to abandon it once again during the first two offensive possessions of the next game a la Riley and Langsdorf last season). Can’t wait for Saturday!

    • angry angry says:
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      OSU needs a defense that can get turnovers and shorten the field for the offense. The units have to work in unison like that. If the D doesn’t get turnovers to shorten the field, or the O shortens the field for opponents with inept play, obviously they’re in trouble. That goes for any team any year and I’m being Captain Obvious here, but it’s especially true the way this team appears to be built. The optimistic point is that I do think they can win some games if the D shrinks the field. I do not have much confidence in the O sustaining drives and/or big plays.

      But, I’ll know more once we see game 1.

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    Nice report, I really appreciate the time and effort of posers like you who share your time and insights. I never got to a practice this year so hearing reports like this is nice.
    Thank you.

  • Homefry Homefry says:
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    Jason: I like it! “Posers”

    Thanks for making me laugh after a horrendous weekend playing tourney softball

  • Jon says:
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    Has there been any word on what happened with romaine?

  • Alex says:
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    Let’s not get too happy about Peko yet…while things appear good, we’re not out of the woods. No confirmation that his academic house is in order yet.

    Hopefully that comes in next week.

  • Jack says:
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    In other news… water is wet.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_reed_are_oregons.html

  • Beavers4life says:
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    The 1 practice I went to last Monday, watching vanderveen throw the “touch” pass was like watching Derek Anderson throwing the touch pass…he doesn’t have touch. Del Rio does have touch…I think Del Rio’s issue is not having a large grasp on the play book.

  • Bill says:
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    Well it’s been a good couple months, I’ve avoided most osu news so i could enjoy my summer. Didn’t even realize this week was game week. In catching up to what’s going on, I feel ok about this season.

    Offense –
    Obviously there will be more emphasis on the run game. All is not lost on the passing game with Cooks gone. I believe last year we were all wondering if Cooks could produce without Wheaton.
    QB – Mannion should be better than last year. When I say better, I mean a more efficient player. Less mistakes and a higher completion percentage.Looks like he may have even cleaned up his throwing motion. (Fun note – ESPN scouting has said Mannion has tiny hands for a QB)
    RBs – RBs a who they are from last year. Each with his own strengths. I expect to see Ward for the middle of the field and Woods in the redzone. For all the crap Woods takes for his running style, he gets the job done at the goal line.
    WR/TEs – Someone will step up at the WR spot. I expect to see more dump off passes to the RBs and TEs. Doesn’t seem like there is much of a vertical threat in the offense.
    OL – The OL is still a work in progress. But the current alignment of Andrews, Weinrich, Mitchell, Bays and Harlow will be ok for the first couple games. Seumalo’s injury will really be felt in conference play if he can’t get back. Reminds me of Jeremy Perry many years ago. Awesome OL but injuries got him bad.

    Defense – Hopefully Banker can put them in position to make plays.
    Dline –
    Really solid group coming back. DTs look to be a strength. Still need to get a reliable pass rusher. Wynn is not that guy.
    LBs – LBs should play well this year with the DTs clogging the middle. Depth looks good there with backups having extensive playing time.
    CB/S – Solid group. Hopefully 3 SR starters will pay off.

    K/P – Have no idea about Owens. Kostol is solid. Would like to see more distance and hang time.

    PR/KR – All they need for the PR is someone who won’t fumble. The punt return game is going extinct because of the shield formation. Some who can reliably fair catch is all you need. I hate true frosh on KR. They always mess up.

    I see a plus 500 season. The schedule sets up nicely with the projected tough games split out more. They should upset one or two teams but also tank one on the road.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    One position we haven’t critiqued yet is coaching. How prepared does the staff look this year compared to previous years?

    From the times I’ve seen Riley, he seems more focused and engaged during practice than in the past few years. He seems to be more willing to stop practice and point out the good and bad that players are showing, and he just looks more relaxed and happy.

    I really haven’t seen much of John Garrett yet, so it’s hard to say what his impact will be on the offense, but from most accounts I’ve read this summer, he seems to be more detail oriented and involved than Danny was. Will he be calling plays and does he have any experience doing so?

    Mark Banker has been Mark Banker. I haven’t seen much change from him over the past decade.

    Coach Cav, still screaming at his guys during plays yelling “What the F*&K are you doing!!!???” and seems pretty on edge. Never a good sign when you need to scream that at your guys after 3 weeks of camp. Not a big change from the norm, but he has seemed the 2nd most frustrated of all of the position coaches so far in camp.

    Brennan, I like coach Brennan, but he benefited the last few years by having Wheaton and Cooks in the rotation. What has he done with a new crop of inexperienced receivers? He seems the most worried of all of the coaches I’ve seen in practice. Maybe that’s a result of him being a perfectionist, or maybe that means he’s legitimately worried his group will be the weak link on this team. I think the depth at TE will help alleviate the WR problems, but how do we get caught off guard when a single player graduates? We’ll soon see if he’s been able to coach up his guys.

    Bruce Read- I almost forget he’s part of the team sometimes. At practice last week, he was sitting on the benches watching special teams plays from the sideline. He’s lost control of his starting kicker in Romaine. He has seemed to be the least engaged of the coaches this year, but maybe that’s more a product of the group he coaches than anything.

    Chris Brasfield- He’s had the same guys for 3 years now. Will this be the year the running back get back on track and we get another 1000 yard guy? probably not, especially with the platooning that we’re likely to use, but this group seems to get a pass every year regardless of production. Status quo here.

    Trent Bray- Linebackers seems to be considered a position of strength this year. Benefits from having both Doctor and Alexander together 1 more year. I’m not too worried about this position, although Alexander has been very limited in practice this summer after his injury. Will the lack of reps hurt? Is Johnson going to be able to transition back to his position seamlessly when Alexander returns to action?

    I’ve love to hear anybody’s thoughts

    • alex says:
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      In fairness to Brennan, he didn’t just lose Cooks last year- also lost Cummings and Hatfield. Cummings was a bigger factor then most of us realized- major factor in 3rd down conversion.

      Also Mullaney and Boldin spent most of fall camp (and spring for Mullaney?) hurt.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        true, losing Cummings hurts, because he was pretty dependable, but Hatfield only caught 8 total passes last year and 9 the year before.

        I was surprised to see Storm Woods was actually the 3rd most common target last year as far as receptions per game, and he was barely edged out by Mullaney. Mullaney had more yards per catch though, which is to be expected based on their positions.

        • bone says:
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          But he was a senior who new the offense and could fill on at every position, the production wasn’t a big loss, but his leadership was.

  • Mb says:
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    Who recruits the Bay Area? None of the top 25, as identified by SF Gate are headed to OSU. Lots of online men. Several are undecided.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    Eggers is reporting Isaac is out for the first two games. Then depends on his rehab.
    Peko has 45 days from the 18th to get cleared, he can only practice. My bet is on we don’t see him ever play in a game.
    Romaine still isn’t cleared, not sure what it is but sounds academic. Owens will be kicker, have no idea on how well he will kickoff?

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Peko is the new and improved Kuli.

    • helmsley says:
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      re: Eggers article – it’s taken OSU a week to get in the papers for Peko. That, and it seems OSU is where the English class screw-up happened. One wonders if the NCAA is the problem in this process.

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Saints released Butler
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5344/victor-butler

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Will the Beavs grind it out Saturday, be pass-heavy, or balanced? I suspect Ward had a big day, and the O is pretty balanced. Hope Vanderveen gets the fourth quarter and PSU doesn’t pull a Sac State or EWU.

  • SalemBeav says:
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    According to O-Live. A new kid from PSU is taking Romaine’s spot on the roster. So what ever it is Romaine is out.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_kicker_ia.html

    • alex says:
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      According to Eggers, it’s academics. He put out a pretty good article, though the Romaine piece was the only new information for me.

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        Maybe Romaine will challenge the fans to come show him how to take a test?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Kickers are supposed to be smart. WTF?

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          His downward dog sucked.

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            Downward Dog has the best burgers I’ve found in Corvallis. Can’t wait to hit that place again this season!

          • Jack says:
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            Ugh! Corvallis is a starving market for a great burger. But I’m not going to spend $10 on one that’s just decent and finish it off with a $5 pint. But then I might be biased toward homemade… for far less than a third the price… and much better tasting. I’ve come to the conclusion that there just are no good burgers in restaurants anymore. And by “good” I mean to say that the cost equals no more than five times the same quality and taste that can be easily replicated while camping… let alone at home.

            And I’m not even counting the chalk dust served up at places like InO or Five Guys.

          • Jack says:
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            I should have said that I already did what I said I’m not going to do… at DD. There are places where a five or six dollar burger is more than worth every penny. Places that serve $10+ burgers are either rip off joints or pretentious rip off joints. Fast food places are not that either. They pass off rubber biscuits by soaking everything in some sauce. Try taking a plain cheeseburger from one of these places home. I have done so. I wouldn’t complain if there was even a decent solidified grease to taste instead of the doormats I’ve tasted.

            I’ve got it down to Tommy’s on Rampart, Bubba’s on Westpark and my own grill/stove. Why am I going to pretend anywhere else is worth my time for a damn burger. There are so many other foods out there. And most of them I can’t make, let alone make better than the shop where I sit down.

            And nobody tell me that five guys or InO even know how to cook fries, let alone trying to tell me that they’re decent or better. Fresh product is cool (and should be the norm), but you have to de-starch potatoes to cook them properly. And one solid deep fry is not proper. Either you soak your fries (or hash or rounds or whatever) for more than two hours before that single fry… or you fry twice.

            I will never trust a business which knows not this simple bit of food chemistry truth.

            That and their fries just suck.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            I’m a fan of the five guys cajun fries. I don’t care if they soak them or not, they’re still delicious

          • Jack says:
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            It’s not the taters though. Just take home their sauce and apply it to properly prepared taters.

            I guarantee you’ll then start thinking you can make a better sauce.

          • helmsley says:
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            Perhaps you could start your own potato product company and donate proceeds to OSU a la the Newmans. I’ve always suspected you are an enterprise, not an individual!

          • helmsley says:
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            Jack – you do indeed have the – it’s really not much of a secret – for making perfect french fries. However, it all starts with the potato. US potatoes don’t have it – not Idaho, not Oregon, not the ones in the boutique grocers. Chile, Bolivia, Peru are potato bliss. It must be the soil. Returning to US potatoes is like coming back from Germany and drinking US beer – almost feels as if you have been poisoned.

          • Jack says:
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            Oh!

            The coctels are usually available in stores everywhere. They’re just the little taters that look like reds only they’re not. Those thingies can be cut up and given a quick pickle (usually just your choice of vinegar and spices overnight) then smoked and fried. Oh man! Those things are just awesome. You don’t even need the smoke, but they’re that much better.

            This is the one drawback with preparing your own food. You have to plan for it. I have beans and rice on the soak since last night because I also have a pickled pork shoulder on day six. They will all be made into beans and rice with a paprika/roasted cumin spice. It’s just a basic staple dish that I’ve been doing for years. But I have the clock down for preparing these things due to practice.

            But those fried pickled taters will make you never buy tots of any king ever again. I need to go out and get some for Friday… and Saturday… and maybe Sunday.

            Dammit! Now I’m craving taters.

  • NorCalBeaver NorCalBeaver says:
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    I live in the Sacramento area. The pac12 channel here is playing the Stanford game instead. Any idea how I can watch the game this Saturday?

    • Numbers says:
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      I find it incredibly stupid that the P12 channel chooses to allow/have the P12 to double or triple schedule their own game starts, leaving the entire remainder of the day unfilled on the p12 channel. All while remembering that these live games draw their greatest audiences. Incredibly stupid. What a waste.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      watch it online, just put in your cable provider and you should have access to it on the pac12 website.

      • Jack says:
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        And if you can get it online, you should be able to connect it to your tv with the proper A/V cable. I had to do this once last year when we were scheduled (as we are on Saturday) for an alternate PTN channel. The game was not shown as scheduled, and we got some softball game instead. So I took an HDMI to RCA cable and plugged it into the auxiliary on the side of the tv for a quick connect. If I wasn’t in such a panic, I would have taken the time to plug the audio into my sound system, but I was just relieved to get the game on the big screen.

        As a bonus, I left my laptop next to the tv with the other PTN game on at the time and could watch it without sound and simultaneously. I was just glad this was probably the only game last year I didn’t DVR and sit down to watch a couple hours later.

        • Jack says:
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          That brings up a question. Does the PTN have on demand games to stream after the fact?

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            Last year they weren’t on demand but they did show replays throughout the rest of the week, quite often if it was a good game.

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            They actually did have some of those games on demand as well. I remember it being tricky to navigate to that area, but I think I got to it through the Comcast website, then choose the network you want to view. From there they had shorter highlight clips you could view, but mixed in they would have the “Football in 60” games, which were awesome if you didn’t have time/desire to watch a full game. Not sure if that was only through Comcast or other providers too, and not every game was available.

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          Last year I bought a simple $40 video card with HDMI output to hook directly to my tv. I dropped cable and watch everything through the internet now. Paid for itself in about 15 days of use and the rest has been all money saved on not having a cable bill.

          With the HDMI to HDMI, you won’t need the separate audio setup, and the sound is great. One caveat though, it helps to have a family member who already has an account that you can log in with. Opens up more options for viewing.

          Also, I used to love having a DVR so I had to get used to watching games live again, but that wasn’t so bad compared to the savings. i think you can find free DVR software too but I found that it bogged my system down to much to stream a clean picture.

          • Jack says:
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            I’ve been looking into this ever since I was forced to do it that day. I have a DirecTiVO that I own outright (and my wife has been nagging me about dumping). But I hear I can hack it, add more memory and use it as a stand alone unit. Since it seems a little out of my league to do so (due to laziness and trying to figure out if the interface would work as a stand alone), I’ve been looking at this.
            http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-MDR535H-F7-Recorder-Black/dp/B009L04DCQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384803707&sr=8-1&keywords=philips%20hdd%20recorder&tag=viglink20260-20

            I have questions out but no clear reply on if it can be used with HTPC. I am intensely interested in finding a way to break free from tv packages though. Half of the 20 or so channels (if that) I frequent already have smart apps. If the PTN ever did the same I would be buying a smarTV or a set top (or another gaming system :)) and Hulu in a heartbeat.

            It’s all headed in that direction anyway. I need to learn more than the basics sooner rather than later. And we need a la carte tv to get here for the sake of customers… which means they will drag their feet until they just start losing money hand over fist.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/new_offensive_coordinator_john_2.html#comments

    Riley is officially calling the plays.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      I do worry a little about not having either Riley or Garrett in the skybox seeing things from above. If they’re both on the field, they may miss out on something that would otherwise be visible from up there.

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Agree. Seems dumb.

        • Bill says:
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          Meh, to me it seems the advantages and disadvantages wash out.

          Sure he might be able to see something from high up but the communication between Garrett and Mannion will be much clearer in person than on the phone.

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      At first I thought Garrett might bring a new level of intensity to the sideline, and that may still be, but the article pictures him as focused on only the QB. I do like his statement that his suggestions will be, “well documented”…..I suppose that means they’ll be based on fact and not feeling. Still wonder how his presence will effect game management and use of TO’s.

      Who will be in the sky box? Is Jay Locey a likely (and eligible) candidate? Seems like he would be a “big picture” kind of guy and he has no direct skill group responsibilities.

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    I really don’t know what to expect on Saturday, my expectations are low though or cautious.

    I guess we will see some shotty play. There has been little continuity on offense due to injuries and the coaching staff just playing around with the lineup. I could see a lot of penalties, dropped balls, and missed assignments on offense. Special teams could see most of the time on the field.

    However, I feel that the defense should control the game, and we eventually pull away in the second half as we settle down and put together a few good drives.

    It will be interesting to watch, to see how the team comes out and what level they perform at.
    Worst case scenario is they lose, again.
    Best case scenario they dominate playing a pretty vanilla scheme and lots of players get in the action.

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      I expect the oline to have a good game. If Hopkins, Keenan or Stanton were starting I’d be more cautious. But Andrews and Weinrich should be ok vs psu.

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    Although the week 3 bye will hurt as the season wears on, we are well positioned to avoid a slow start and bring a shaky O-line up to speed slowly. The first team with a pulse is SDSU in week 4, and even they are not an especially strong team.

    Week 5 will be the first major test, @ USC. Hopefully Seumalo and Peko are fully cleared and up to speed (with some game action) by then.

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    By the way, anybody know what’s going on with Romaine?

    How often does a 5th year senior end up with academic qualifier issues? Is he depressed or something? Would explain lack of engagement in practice.

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      Perhaps he shares an academic advisor with Peko and has recently learned his progress toward a degree isn’t nearly where he thought it was.

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      I think he got pissed and quit. Possibly he was gonna be leap frogged by younger kicker. Possibly Garret didn’t like him…

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    Terron Ward wins the starting RB spot.

    Vanderveen #2 QB.

    And other interesting results.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_week_one.html

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    Just saw drew eubanks committed to the hoops team

    Connor Letourneau (@ConnOregonian) tweeted at 5:27 PM on Tue, Aug 26, 2014:
    As @andrewnemec mentioned in his story, @DrewEubanks12 will walk on to OSU baseball in addition to playing hoops.
    (https://twitter.com/ConnOregonian/status/504424912715403264)

    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download

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    Stoked about the rumored uni combo this Saturday. May be one if the best seen in OSU history. Orange tops, black pants, lid likely not black but still a school color. Sounds incredible and I hope we shred PSU and play with our nuts on fire while looking fresh and attracting some new fans.

    OSU 41, PSU 17

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      Yeah, yeah… and a tartan helmet.

      Why you dissin’ my D man? 17?

      41-0!

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      Probably black/orange/black….though I’d prefer white/orange/white.

      I won’t see it until the “highlights” and would just like to see OSU control all three phases of the game.

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      I’m guessing the pic on the right is what we’ll see on Saturday. Sorry this pic doesnt feature the burning nuts.

      http://t.co/PvAsv05Qhm

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        I just can’t say anything positive about our current unis… except for the orange lids and orange or black pants. Those three are good (or, in the case of the lids, awesome).

        So I guess I shouldn’t say anything at all.

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        Crap, posted the wrong pic. Dont have time to go back and find the right one

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          You were going for the uni watch pics that have been floating around for the last couple days? Some of those were pretty good. The ones with the orange lids were what I saw. I think the orange on orange on black was pretty sharp except for the white crap on the pants.

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            Here’s the uniform link i was looking for. I like the one on the right in this image, which it sounds like you’re mostly a fan of too.

            https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv5yjUTCQAABi7u.jpg:large

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            Yeah… except for the white it’s a sharp uni.

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            Correct. The one on the right is the rumored. Massari has been tweeting #UniteOrange so don’t know why your earlier tweet said Aug. 30 is a #Bold game. I really like this look on the right and since it will be warm makes more sense to go orange tops vs black. I think they will start 2014 off with a brand new combo to set the tone that this is a new year at OSU.

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    Eggers picks beavers in a “non-blowout” 38-20, expects Beavers to “pass to set up the run.” Hopefully Beavs watched some film this time…

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/231224-95490-kerry-says-no-blowout-but-beavers-should-beat-focused-vikings

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      Unless turnovers force a lot of short field, I’ll be disappointed if the Beavs D gives up more than 13 pts vs PSU.

      Probably reading too much into the quote from a “source”, but the “preparing for the season vs preparing for this game” remark isn’t as encouraging as earlier when several named sources mentioned a focus on this specific game….one at a time!

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        Yeah, that quote could be taken more than one way. The OSU coaching staff hasn’t earned my trust in prepping for these “gimmes” as of late.

        I’d much prefer they run to set up the pass; set expectations of the Oline and RBs early and often in the preseason to prep for the meat of the schedule. Riley has abandoned the run too quickly at times (Alamo Bowl?).

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      I would be more than happy with a 0-0 tie at halftime if we run nothing but run plays against PSU in the first half. That’s how much I abhor the “pass to set up the run” philosophy.

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    “This is a results-oriented game,” Brennan reiterated Tuesday. “You’re either playing good and making plays, or you’re not. And if you’re not playing good, we need to get someone in there who can.”

    Well, the same philosophy applies to coaching as well Mr Brennan. Maybe you aren’t recruiting players who can make plays. Or if you are, you aren’t coaching them to make said plays. Craig Robinson is an expert on the latter. Different sports I know, but still food for thought.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_slotback.html

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      I don’t get all the angst about our WRs. Our WRs will be fine. They will be one of the most productive and efficient groups in the nation, and maybe the next to step up (Mullaney) will be somewhat close to as efficient and productive as past greats at OSU. We need to stop thinking in terms of needing one all-world WR on the roster at all times. Nobody gets that luxury. But our WRs have produced year-in year-out, unlike every other position and position group at OSU.

      There is something to be said against the propensity of our coach to make the WRs understand the whole “complicated” offense instead of specializing each of them. I think we recruit and develop well enough to actually specialize our corps from the start and still have depth. But because we ask them to be ready to step in anywhere, they are strung out in terms of using their abilities until they’re mature enough (usually as seniors unless they are actually all-world) to be productive anywhere on the field.

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    Fear not my beaver bretheren. Coach Cav is on the case. This season will hinge on the health of one Sean Mannion. If the O Line can protect him and learn how to sufficiently run block, 9-10 wins is possible. If not, expect 5-8 wins. Or worst case scenario, Mannion gets hurt due to lack of protection. In that case with Vanderveen or Del Rio under center, expect us to look like Cal last year (shudder).

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    One last comment, I will give kudos to the coaching staff for shaking things up and trying to do things differently in fall camp. Those who do not adapt get left behind. I think it’s a few years too late, but at least they are trying. Will that translate into results? Who knows. The defense could be very good and talented. But paper thin and a few injuries could make them just the opposite. But my whiskey soaked crystal ball says we dust PSU, Hawaii and SDSU. Then the big thud comes against USC. After that, I got nothin. Except my costco sized supply of napkins since history shows I’ll need them.

    Oh one last other thing. Is it possible that flailbacker Zimmerman just doesn’t see the field? EVER? Pretty please?????? I don’t want to wish a season ending injury on anyone

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      For you Whiskey:
      http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/tyrequek_zimmerman_discusses_i.html

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        he felt last year was decent? LMFAO!

        “I wasn’t totally happy with my year last season. I felt like it was just decent, nothing great.”

        Newsflash, it wasn’t anything even remotely close to decent. One could fall off their roof, flail and catch just as much air. He sucks and should NEVER see the field

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      You have an unhealthy obsession with the Z man dude. Did he steal your napkin LOL?

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        Another opinion on the Z man, “Many people are negative towards Ty Zimmerman, but he is a great player that was forced to cover the run equally to the pass. This forced a lot of breakdowns like the USC and UW games. It forced him to run with the receiver while constantly keeping his eyes in the backfield.”
        From The Candy Report……whatever that is…http://theofficialcandyreport.com/?p=1002

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    Beavs are supposed to run more shotgun formations this year according to Riley. Be interesting to see if that holds true. And if the center snaps the ball back there quickly or floats back a lil’ wounded quail that gets there nanoseconds before a legitimate DI defensive end…

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    Anybody know anything about Garrett Owen’s kicking ability from watching practice? I see that he and Ian Crist are the guys going forward, since Romaine appears to have expired his shelf life.

    Crist walked on at Portland State last year, but I don’t remember seeing him in any games. I only watched a few of their games and knew they were bad a field goal kicking, but didn’t realize they were this bad. They were 3-16 on field goals for the year, and Crist couldn’t break into that rotation. You’d think Nigel Burton would have been willing to try him at least once, with those types of results from the other guys.

    It sounds like there’s a lot riding on Owen’s abilities this season

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      Owens was superior in HS. I think he will be better than Romaine as soon as now. While I like Romaine’s abilities (potential), he turned out to be more Janikowski off the field and more Jose Cortez on.

      Expect Owens to be like Yleniemi off the field… and in terms of consistency on the field… but with much more leg.

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        *Yliniemi

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        Blasphemy! There will never be another Jose Cortez on the field. I’ve never seen a kicker make a throat slashing gesture to heckling fans in the stands, and literally shut them up with that alone. Cortez was a stud.

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      I was only able to attend a couple of practices this summer, so I didn’t get a chance to see much of Garrett Owens. But from the limited amount I saw, Owens has a strong leg — he seemed to have no problems kicking field goals in practice from 50+ yards.

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        Sounds like Owens is comparable to Romaine in field goal distance, however he is sub-par in Kick-off depth. Dont expect too many touchbacks, unless there is a stift wind helping. Now how well he performs accurately is still to be seen.

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    Gina Mizell on John Canzano – https://soundcloud.com/kxtg-the-bald-faced-truth/bft-gina-mizell-08-26-14

    fwiw, I think she does a terrific job. I don’t know how her situation at the Oregonian came about, but I’m glad it did.

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      Huge upgrade over Schnell. From what I’ve seen of her, she’s a bit of a bulldog when it comes to reporting (and i mean that in a good way). She gets in there, does her job. No BS. My guess is she won’t be on the Beaver beat for long. Seems to be a stepping stone job

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    Curious to see what Mageo brings this season. Maybe we finally found a MLB?

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      cool video. i like watching/hearing Bray coach. Seems like the type of guy players would want to play for

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      I like Mageo a lot. Yeah… he played like a frosh sometimes last year. But that might be due to the fact that he was… ummm… a frosh. I think his talent and intuition is better than any backer we’e had since Barnett. If he takes to Bray and develops his skills, he’s a surefire next level player. And he’ll be a good one too.

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        Yeah. I was looking at our depth chart and although it’s senior heavy on d, there are a lot of Frosh and soph’s that pass the eye test in 2nd string roles that I’m kind of excited about. If either Vanderveen or Del Rio pan out (maybe Garrett can help alleviate some of the famous learning curve?), and can come in next year and be solid, things could be looking good for the next couple of years. Guess I’m saying I like this current group a lot. Quietly the last 3+ classes although lacking the couple of big marquee names you like to have, have been our consecutively best all around in a long time. IMO the move to scour the nation for unheralded football players who are good athletes with potential instead of solely focusing on over-hyped Cali kids we won’t get could start paying off.

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        I agree. He will get reps this year and be prepared to take over and be a good player next year.

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        Mageo’s got that rugby background, that and wrestling are sports which often are good experience for FB players.

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    Luck O the Rodent?
    Perfect weather all week except for tailgating and game time tomorrow. F…………!

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    Gil Brandt ?@Gil_Brandt 27m

    My Fall 2012 CFB sleeper was Ziggy Ansah. 2013, @tomsavage03. 2014: @OSUBeaversFB DE Obum Gwacham. Was WR, moved to DE. Has length, speed

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      Anash ended up being the #5 overall NFL pick in 2013. Savage was picked #135 in 2014.

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    For twitter users, theyre giving away a pair of white uniform gloves to one of their followers today if they get to 2000 followers. Might be worth following them for at least 1 day to possibly win.

    GET THE BEAVERDAM TO 2,000 followers! RT and follow me to have a chance to win the gloves! http://t.co/HCSC4v4T0i

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    Wow. Don’t lead Iowa State in rushing…….you will die. This is unbelievable.
    Former Iowa State football player found dead in Ohio
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/…/iowa-state/isu…iowa-state…/14636143...
    20 hours ago – Former running back Hiawatha Rutland passes away.

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    Kevin Hampton ?@HamptonKevin 12m

    Riley said Isaac Seumalo’s checkup on foot injury went well and he has one more test to do #gtsports #gobeavs

    Did they mix this story up with Kyle Peko’s?

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    I think the orange pants and black jersey and “lids” looks lame:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/08/oregon_state_beavers_practice_2.html#incart_river

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      Agreed. Lose all the whitey stripey crap, and then we’re talking.

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        But then I’ve never said in the last 15 years that pointy stripey crap is just pointy stripey ugly.

        At least I get to laugh at people out loud when I see them in what is now retro crap. I am talking about the NFL mostly here. The Broncos and their sin against nature unis way back when were just the start. It’s now so prevalent in college, and even HS, that it’s just a giggle and a half which is forgotten after kick-off.

        Now I have to wonder who the schmucks are. Are they the ones who design and market this crap? Or are they the ones who buy them?

        I’m going to go buy and eat a McDonald’s burger. They sell the most and they must, because of that, be the best.

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          I used to make a great elk burger topped with pepperjack cheese and homemade, smoked, canned pequillo peppers….hoping to get another elk this year and repeat.

          I thought Squirrel’s used to make a good burger, is that no longer true, or is it just too much?

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            I haven’t tried Squirrels yet. Better give ’em a shot I guess.

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            Squirrel burgers are good. I guess they’re not bad for $5… double cheese with ham and egg. I haven’t had one in eons. I usually just get beer at Squirrel’s… for less than $5 per pint… sheesh!

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    ha ha ha, turns out Josh Shaw’s “story” about how his ankle sprains happened by saving his drowning nephew was a complete crock. What a shit bag!

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/11420303/usc-trojans-josh-shaw-suspended-indefinitely-admitting-lie

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      That’s “Team Captain” shit bag to you whiskey!

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    “Great day to be a Beaver”….new commit

    Angie Machado (@AngieMachado1) tweeted at 8:57 PM on Wed, Aug 27, 2014:
    #GoBeavs just picked up a commitment from TE Jesse Sims from Montana. Big get…story coming soon @BeaverBlitz
    (https://twitter.com/AngieMachado1/status/504840159427588096)

    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download

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      Hope does better than the last guy from MT. Mr Naked three point stance dude.

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      His measurables are great but there’s really no film out there on him. The only film I found is now 2 years old. Could be a steal.

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    Who’s going to the game Saturday? I’ll be there but in the visitor’s section since my buddy got his tickets from PSU.

    Angry, are we going to get a season prediction out of you between now and then?

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    Off to the 1st CFB of the season with Atomic Gopher/Beaver Turds in tow. Please pray to TGBITS to grant victory to his fellow rodent. Death to the Panthers!

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    ESPN CollegeFootball ?@ESPNCFB 13m

    BREAKING – USC RB Anthony Brown quits team, accuses @CoachSark of being racist – #CFBLIVE on ESPN2

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      For all the things Sark is (sleazy snake oil salesman, shitty coach, etc…) I have a hard time believing he’s racist. That kid is a Senior who hasn’t played a snap at USC. Maybe he was told he probably wouldn’t see the field again this year and got pissed and walked? IDK. It just doesn’t sound right…

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        agree, but it’s fun to watch one of our toughest opponents implode a few weeks before we play them. It’s too bad we don’t play them this Saturday. We probably would have beaten them last year if we had played them early in the year, before Kiffin was fired. Timing was just perfect that they were playing their best when we met them

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      maybe the ncaa compliance committee should look into this douchebag

      https://twitter.com/fightontwist/status/505049138321305600

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    Suddenly, it’s looking more and more possible the Beavs could start 6-0 going into the Stanford game.

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    OT – scheduling question. Instead of scheduling games that look like “body bag” games, why doesn’t OSU challenge Notre Dame to a 2:1 series? 2 there, 1 in Corvallis?

    OSU has blown out Notre Dame twice (second time close to blow out). Notre Dame is generally overrated, but gets tons of exposure for being Notre Dame, so Riley’s players get the “big game” experience and college football tradition he loves (LSU, Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State) but, OSU has a legitimate shot at winning.

    OSU could say to ND – “You’ve never beaten us and we’re giving you 3 chances, with 2 at your house.”

    Sandwich the Corvallis game in the middle with a buyout in case ND backs out.

    Why wouldn’t this work? Notre Dame have too many other scheduling demands, too much risk of losing? I’m sure there are lots of reasons, but this kind of series gets OSU the exposure, the experience, and gives them a competitive shot at winning. At the least, they’re 2-3 all time vs. Notre Dame. Most likely, ND backs out after one game at home….

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      I’ve posted this b4 – but a favorite OSU moment: Question to Chad Johnson (paraphrased) – Does your team feel honored to be playing Notre Dame? CJ: No – they should feel honored to be playing Oregon State.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I think Notre Dame’s schedule is pretty tight as they have a lot of traditional games pulling at them.

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    Sounds like this weekend there will be our big 4 hoops recruits on an official visit. PF Drew Eubanks, SG Stephen Thompson Jr, SF Tre Tinkle and PG Derrick Bruce out of Florida. All 4 guys are in the ESPN top 150 for their class. Just need a solid rebounding big man and that would make a sweet starting 5 for the next few years.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    You know you’ve all been waiting for it!!

    Quotable

    “As far as their intentions and their work, it’s outstanding. I think it’s very, very good. So that part of it is good. The next part of the identity you’ve got to prove out here, where there’s no announcements to make until you play a game and start to defining who you are.” — Riley on the development of this team’s identity

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Eggers quotes Garrett, “You have to pay attention to the events of the game and how they’re playing it. We’ll be looking for those formations and schemes to reveal a weakness and try to exploit it…”.

    Sure, it’s coach speak, but better than stuff about intentions and finding an identity. And it gives some hope we’ll see in-game adjustments. So, can Garrett make the identity, “We’ll find your weakness and exploit it”??

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