05.Dec.2014 Oregon State Moving Too Slow

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I get it, they were caught off guard.

But the coaching carousel is moving, recruits are anxious, and not a peep yet from OSU about where they are in the process?

Mamma Machado reporting she can’t get a peep from anyone and gag order in place. Typical OSU.

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  • thebeaverman says:
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    most of all I want an exciting offense preferably up-tempo spread scheme
    I fully endorse Tom Herman

  • scotty says:
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    Dave in Tumwater calling out the athletes and others taking to the media bashing Corvallis/OSU and “poisoning the well”

    • angry angry says:
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      Well yeah, by making strawman excuses they do just that.

    • alex says:
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      Schnell’s article was the worst well-poisoning I’ve seen yet.

      Perception is reality, and I’m afraid that the “you can’t win in Corvallis” line is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

      Ironically, the Riley defenders are picking this time to double down on bashing Corvallis- now, when defending Riley is completely irrelevant to OSU. They’re no longer even propping Riley up- they’re just actively tearing the new regime (whoever it is) down.

      • scotty says:
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        I’d love to see the next coach come in and kill it so the Riley-ites have to eat their words

        • alex says:
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          BUT HE DID IT WITH RILEY’S RECRUITS!! …I can hear it now.

          I’ve always thought that is an incredibly disingenuous jab at Erickson’s Fiesta Bowl win. Riley has never been a good recruiter, and the most talented players on that team were Erickson’s own JUCO additions.

          C’mon guys, the party line is more with less! Not less with more! At least get your story straight.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    they’re waiting out the end of the NFL season for a chance to hire Jim Harbaugh

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Mike Riley on @SiriusXMCollege says he would highly recommend defensive coordinator Mark Banker for the head coaching job at Oregon State.

    https://twitter.com/HuskerExtraBR/status/540951496259796992

    • progressivebeav says:
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      kill me now

    • scotty says:
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      From a reply:

      “Meaning he doesn’t recommend Banker for the Nebraska DC job”

      Is that Riley’s “SCREW YOU” to beaver fans? 😛

    • ean says:
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      does that mean he is not going to Nebraska?

    • mckalk says:
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      I guess someone at Nebraska finally got around to watching Riley, Banker, et al. in action…..Sorry, Mike….Banker stays home!

  • Bob says:
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    Mike Riley loves OS and Corvallis. There’s no way he wanted to leave. And Dee, are you kidding, you’re husband comes home one day and says, “pack up, we’re leaving our grandson and all our friends behind and moving to Nebraska”… Right. Riley did a very decent thing, let OS out of a bad situation and did it with class and dignity. He’s a good guy, his time had come, he realized it, and did what needed to be done. Enough of the Opie and other insults.

    Having said that, I support the change, feel like we need someone young and enthusiastic, and hope BDC can pull off another great hire like did in both basketball programs. But your right, the time to move is Now.

    Go Cats

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Yeah, all the Riley did a decent thing and helped out the university is nice in theory but I’m not really buying it.

      • Bob says:
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        Why? What makes you think otherwise?

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          LOL … he did OSU a favor. What planet do you live on?

          He didnt need to bail to do us a favor. Restructure the contract, WORK HARDER, and assign an assistant to handling the time critical game situations.

          What IS clear…. he didnt love OSU and Corvallis….he didnt value continuity, family, loyalty….

          What he did, for the SECOND time, is bail on the program, for a greener pasture…. Its just the usual coaching ego stuff….money, prestige, national prominence…. Dont sugar coat something that is dirty.

    • Nak says:
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      Bob, Opie left us twice now and candidly I’m ecstatic that he’s gone however it happened. He’ll last 3 seasons in Lincoln and that’s if he’s pushed to hire decent coordinators. If he takes the current staff it will be San Diego part II. Waaay overrated and a three time lottery winner. Post Osborne the Huskers have been fools for firing coaches that average 9 wins. He’s in for a rude awakening.

  • Jeff says:
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    Oregon law requires the job to be posted for either 5 or 7 days before they can make a hire, nothing OSU can do about that. Hopefully, its been posted but that has to happen first so even if they have someone hired it can’t legally be announced.

  • HireMattWells says:
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    How soon would you like the hire made angry? Next 7-10 days seems about right. Any more and it does become distracting. Would like to see them announce a couple interviews within next 5 days.

    • Jeff says:
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      They can’t, its illegal. All interviews at this point would need to be done without public knowledge

    • angry angry says:
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      I’d just like some update on what’s going on, but if it would be illegal that explains it. Hopefully they’re not farting around…because that’s how it seems when you hear nothing for this long.

      • Jeff says:
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        While I agree, they can’t. Everyone knew Helfrich was gonna get the UO job but you didn’t hear a word for UO about it.

        We will probably start hearing some leaks over the weekend I am guessing but OSU has to legally remain silent.

      • scotty says:
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        It’s only been a day.

  • angry angry says:
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    Mamma Machado insinuating a decommit, on cue.

    Commit reaction: Adrienne Talan Reply
    Not a good sign for Beavs as Talan is completely up in the air now and most likely would follow Bray.

    What will be interesting is to see if Riley tries to take recruits with him to Nebraska. He was so angry with Keith Heyward when he left to go to Washington and a couple recruits followed him. Wonder what he’s going to do now…

  • Bone says:
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    I have heard that BDC is up in Spokane right now. Beau Baldwin perhaps?

    • angry angry says:
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      Ugh.

      • Bone says:
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        Are you not a fan of that?

        • angry angry says:
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          Do you see Baldwin bringing donations and excitement?

          I knew Bob D would go cheap.

          I don’t know how to evaluate Baldwin in terms of how he’d do in the Pac-12. His defenses look atrocious to me. They also say he’s a lot like Riley personality wise…

          • Bone says:
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            He isn’t a splashy higher by any stretch, but if he can coach and win games that will bring excitement. Plus, isn’t there a myth that you need money to win games?

          • angry angry says:
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            Oh no…we’re going down this path? That he’ll become splashy down the road? That he’ll bring money in down the road when he wins? That’s a lot to bank on. Fans would be disappointed with Baldwin except those who think he’ll bring a Tecmo Bowl offense and put up 70 points per game. We need someone unlike Riley, and this guy apparently is just like him personality wise. He’d have the scorn of many right off the bat and have to win them over.

          • Bill says:
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            That’s why I’m on the Muschamp bandwagon. A national hire. Not some small school up and comer.

            Headline would read if Baldwin or Wells got hired “Small school hires a smaller school’s coach”.

            Headline for Muschamp “Holy crap, OSU got Muschamp!! Look out!”.

          • scotty says:
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            “Holy crap, OSU got a failed coach!! Look out!”

          • alex says:
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            The “splash” might help recruiting (short term) and help put OSU on the map, but that would in no way be worth the W/L record that Muschamp would bring with him.

          • Bone says:
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            Well he has had a ton of success and his great with quarterbacks. As far as on the defensive side, I have only really watched two of their games–OSU and UW–so I can’t really evaluate that either.

    • scotty says:
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      Or Jonathan Smith

    • ean says:
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      BDC must be prying Mike Leach away from WSU for Angry.

  • Beav11 says:
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    Philip Montgomery, anyone?

  • homefry homefry says:
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    It happened yesterday…as Jeff says it legally has a time element to hiring an employee. Flip it around…if they announced today they were hiring Banker, Del Rio, or any other coach you don’t want, you would be up in arms.

    Which in a sense, many Huskers fans are saying about Riley…too soon~not enough due diligence, better coaches not contacted, etc.

    Go Beavs!

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Is it bad I want Wilcox to be the guy, but not purely due to his coaching prowess. I would mostly want him as the coach to Fuck up Sark, shake up his staff and steal recruits. Petty?

  • ean says:
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    Moving to slow? How do you know that?

    • ean says:
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      I don’t care if it takes a couple weeks if we get the right guy. Not really in love with our recruiting class so if they jump ship whatever.

  • ean says:
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    Oregon law requires us to interview a minority candidate. Any good minority coaches available? Could help dispel the idea that Corvallis is a racist town… wasn’t there an SI article or something like that?

    • Bill says:
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      There’s no penalty for not interviewing a minority candidate and most won’t interview if they are just a box to check,

    • Bob says:
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      Who says Corvallis is a racist town? Talk about poisoning the well.

      • scotty says:
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        If Corvallis is a racist town, I can only imagine what those SEC school towns must be like

      • ean says:
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        Angry was saying that… and there is an SI article about it IIRC.

        • angry angry says:
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          i don’t think I said that. I linked to an article from the 1960s that talked about that reputation and its origins.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      So….that means they have to interview at least one GOOD coach, right?

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    Ducks fans all over spouting off about character vs winning, which is a complete joke coming from a fanbase whose team is doing nothing but winning. And the sad thing is they don’t even understand why they should shut their mouths when I bring it up.

    • ean says:
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      I think Chip was a high character guy and so is Helfrich. Phil Knight is pretty low on the character list though.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        CK is NOT a high character guy. He valued winning over everything. See the Lyerla story. CK put up with Lyerla’s bullshit. Helfrich would not and that’s why he was asked to leave

  • angry angry says:
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    Researching Baldwin since I think that’s who BDCheapskate will hire.

    Some Baldwin clips:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vv7AuHQmdg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELHqiamNw5s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw3XYaffu00

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKr-5p3sb64

    His philosophy here is pretty smart. But I’m skeptical still…defenses have some ugly numbers, and I’m not sure how this attitude will work vs the wolves in the Pac-12.

    Jack what is your take on this guy? I feel like he’d be perceived as a dud hire. But I like what he’s saying about the mental part of the game. That’s refreshing. Bad defenses, though and sounds like a player’s coach.

    He’s definitely more mentally in-tune than Riley. Seems to stress psychology. I do like that part. Media was saying he’s a lot like Riley, but I don’t see that, either. I’m warming up to him.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    I don’t want Baldwin at all. Remember the last Eastern coach to make the jump? Yup, Paul Wulff. No thanks.

    • alex says:
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      It’s gotta be a rough transition, especially without doing time as a coordinator to acclimate to the higher level of competition. In fairness though:

      1) Baldwin has been significantly more successful than Wulff

      2) Wulff had basically nothing when he took the job. OSU’s talent level right now – lackluster as it
      is- is orders of magnitude better than what Wulff inherited.

      3) Others may disagree on this but I think Wulff was poised for a good year right before they let him go. IMO they cut him off a year too soon. Leach walked into a much better situation, and frankly hasn’t done much better.

  • alex says:
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    If we hire Baldwin, you think he’s able to bring Vernon Adams with him? That could be a serious game changer that could salvage the next couple of years.

  • alex says:
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    I’ve been pretty impressed with Baldwin’s pre game comments prior to playing OSU the last couple times. Paraphrasing:

    “We’re not just happy to be here. We don’t want this to be just an opportunity to grow as a team. We intend to win.”

    Seems like a stark contrast to Riley in recent CWs. I like that he approaches “unwinnable” games with confidence and a can-do attitude. Don’t think we’ll have to worry about finding an identity anymore.

    • scotty says:
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      Maybe he watched Sac State beat us a couple years before and said “hell yeah we can do this”

  • cj cj says:
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    So… the Yucks beat ‘Zona worse than they beat us….

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