10.Dec.2014 Bronco Mendenhall

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Bronco has been offered the OSU job. He is weighing the decision but he has a verbal offer, and OSU is planning to make the announcement on Monday who their new coach is. I have talked to BigCoug personally, who is a poster on another board I frequent and he is connected very well to the athletic department and several big donors. It will probably be leaked by the media sooner than later.

I know a lot of you guys are down on him, but he’s #1 on my list of defensive guys who we could realistically get. I think the mystery candidate stuff was all BS or said mystery candidate was just using OSU for leverage. We can’t get either Harbaugh. Kirby Smart unlikely. So then you get into guys with that profile who actually would take the job, and Bronco is #1 on that list. His teams always play good, aggressive D, has a power run game, and always has a savvy QB. He could probably get higher talent at OSU and do even better. I don’t think he is known as a great recruiter, but maybe he could get someone on staff for that.

Overall if he is the guy I’d rank it an 8/10. He’s only 48, too, so the idea he’s washed up isn’t reality.

I like Frost, Wells, and all the young guys you like, but they’re high risk for many reasons, and I also don’t know if their teams would play defense. I also like that Bronco has an OSU connection but not an incestuous one.

Think about this:

(1) A week ago, would you trade Riley for Mendenhall? In a heartbeat.

(2) Albatross of Riley’s contract gone, and with a better coach on hand.

(3) OSU got 500k for Riley.

(4) Career record of 90-38. Five top 25 finishes. 10 straight bowl games. Experience and winning.

I see nothing bad from hiring Bronco Mendenhall.

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  • whatever says:
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    I’m fine with Bronco.

    I don’t believe this report.

  • BeavinTX says:
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    I don’t believe the report either, but I’ll say what I just said on the other thread:

    Thinking about Mendenhall, I wonder if what you see with his trajectory at BYU is a combination of diminishing returns and a little lack of direction with them being independent.

    He came in with a bang and won 10 games 4 of his first 5 seasons. How much higher can a program like BYU realistically go? It was in the MWC at the time, and BYU is hardly a destination program for non-LDS recruits. Maybe they hit their ceiling at that point.

    Plus, four years of having nothing to play for as an independent except a national championship can be detrimental to a program. Does BYU really think they’re going to win it all? It’s hard to steer an organization without clear goals, and it can be even harder when no one wants to schedule you.

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      You make good points about the BYU program.

    • angry angry says:
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      Exactly, that is why I wrote: He could probably get higher talent at OSU and do even better.

      I don’t think this guy has peaked due to the situation there. Having 25 year old players is more a negative than positive. That’s a ton of investment and years before you can project a guy’s true ability. At 25, spry 18-22 year olds could be superior in many ways (e.g. speed, less wear and tear, etc).

      • Jack says:
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        No they can’t. A decent 25 year-old will dominate an 18 year-old almost every time.

        I thought you studied some biology.

        • angry angry says:
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          By that logic BYU would beat everyone.

          Speed declines with age, as does agility or stride length. A lot of BYU players look maladroit when running. They never have burners. 25 has more strength and wisdom, though.

  • osu2008 says:
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    I would rather have Mendenhall than Hoke, if it’s true that he’s OSU bound. Hope he keeps Brennan.

  • GoBeavs82 says:
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    I hope your right! This feels like an upgrade in many respects. On the top of my priorities was to get rid of Banker – DONE!

    Angry grades it 8/10. With a great OC and DC, this can be a 10/10 on my scorecard.

  • Timber! says:
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    snooze fest.

  • angry angry says:
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    If you guys want an interesting read, go back to this 2010 post when BDC extended Riley for life. I cannot believe how accurate it is.

    http://angrybeavs.com/athletics/1413

    Interesting I mentioned Mendenhall…I loved the guy even back then.

    • Riko says:
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      Angry was right

    • Jack says:
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      Ha!

      Blast from the past.

      Looking through the thread, Kiffin still sucks, Bernard was great at UNC, The contract was just dumb as hell. And Danny Mwanga fell off the map to some place like NYC.

      Good times!

      • angry angry says:
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        You forgot the first comment, “De Carolis is telling us that 9-4 is the best we can hope for.”….

        That remains true until we see this hire.

  • Joe Smith says:
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    My golden tablet’s say these reports are false, but if true someone’s sliding down the kingdom totem pole if they willingly leave our collegiate Mecca. Looking at you BM

  • PDXBeav says:
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    I’d be reasonably happy with Bronco. Major upgrade over Riley IMO.

    My hope is that he keeps Brennan, Seumalo, Brasfield, and Perry.

    • Jack says:
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      He would be an instant upgrade and more so with those four. But he’s just cringe-worthy when it comes to other parts of his life and how he directly applies it to football.

      Yes… I’m talking LDS.

      I don’t think the same people who let Riley slide because he is being an uber-Christian will accept some cult guy. And I don’t say this out of some gut feeling. There are real people who have told me that Measure 36 is why Bronco can never be here and be comfortable in his position.

      • Jack says:
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        Sorry… truth.

        • Jack says:
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          And that’s just the people who wish for big political money from outside our state to disappear. These people range from each side of the political spectrum. And I’m not talking right wing loony to right wing Obama… more like right wing Hatfield to left wing common sense… which aren’t very diverse.

          We just… uh… got rid of a cult of personality. Why would we buy another?

  • scotty says:
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    Why I’m not sold on Bronco:

    1) He’s been working with bigger players because of the LDS mission thing. Everybody just about gains 2 years of growth. I remember someone saying when the BYU players got off the bus, it was like watching men versus boys. He probably won’t have that advantage here, and it’s been a big advantage for his defense.

    2) Bronco’s last 4 games against his rival (Utah):

    2010: L, 16-17
    2011: L, 10-54 (!!!)
    2012: L, 21-24
    2013: L, 13-20

    Utah is a solid program, but definitely not elite. I don’t see how he’s going to compete with the quacks.

    3) Mike Riley is Mr. Personality compared to Bronco.

    Personally, I’d rather take a chance on an up-and-comer. Mendenhall would be a rather uninspiring hire to me.

    • PDXBeav says:
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      You could argue that Utah was able to bring in better talent because of their move to the Pac-12 in 2011.

      • scotty says:
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        I watched the 2011, 2012, and 2013 games. They were NOT pretty.

        • Jack says:
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          It’s still unfair to him as a coach. He’s decent, but he’s meh at best.

    • mb says:
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      Riley redshirted nearly everyone and was/is reluctant to play redshirt freshmen. Riley also likes to grayshirt. The two year growth thing (BYU vs OSU) is only partially true. A valid Riley complaint was a lack of true competition for playing time at the start of fall camp. He did not necessarily award playing time based on merit if there was a loyal veteran waiting in the wings. Remember, his system is akin to Rocket Surgery and requires years of apprenticeship. Freshman knew they were going to be assigned to the scout team and then assumed that mentality rather than compete on day one. Yes there were outliers like Seumalo and Cooks, the exceptions to the rule.

      • Jack says:
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        ^^^^ this ^^^^

        And that is why I give Perry a pass for the secondary play and Brennan a pass for the WRs. This is different than giving Bray a pass for the LB play. I give him a pass because Banker sucks. And Seumalo gets a double pass becuase of this and injury.

        Sark… you’re a cheap shot shit.

  • PDXBeav says:
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    I’m surprised no one has floated this name as a potential DC for whoever we hire: Clancy Pendergast

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clancy_Pendergast

    http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/usc-trojans-nfl-clancy-pendergast-next-coaching-job-120914

    “It was surprising that the 45-year-old coach ended up getting spun off the coaching carousel amid the Trojans’ coaching search last winter after Steve Sarkisian was hired, bringing his own DC from Washington. Surely, someone else would’ve snapped up Pendergast. Last season, he turned the Trojans from a unit that ranked No. 7 in the Pac-12 to No. 1. A few years earlier, he sparked as dramatic a turnaround when he took over Cal’s defense and made it the conference’s top-rated D and gained a rep in coaching circles for having a handle on containing the spread after his 2010 Bears slowed down Chip Kelly’s prolific offense, holding them to 40 points below their average.”

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Seems like Mendenhall’s history with OSU would calm the polly’s, who must admit they actually remember a tough D, Linebacker U.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    I’d trade Riley for Mendenhall any old day of the week.

    I think I’ll keep beating the Bob Stitt for OC drum just for fun 🙂

    http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines

    • BeavinTX says:
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      I like the idea of Bob Stitt as OC, not as much as HC. Leading a FBS organization is much different than leading a DII organization.

      That said, I’m sure OSU OC pays better than CSM HC.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        Nope, I’d start him out as OC too. If he develops into a HC then cool.

        But I kinda like the thought of him as OC and Clancy Pendergrass as DC.

        Shit for that matter those two could probably prop up one of the retread coaches. I hope they get a good recruiter like Neuheisel if that’s the case.

      • helmsley says:
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        OUAT Bob Stitt said he couldn’t be an OC for anyone because he felt most HCs wouldn’t let him implement his ideas. More recently, I read something that quoted him as saying he would consider being an OC. I have no idea how SAT/ACT scores and football relate – I’m sure there are some stats out there (and please don’t mention Kyle Peko) but I wonder if Stitt’s record at CSM has anything 2 do with very smart, maths-oriented players – although he says his stuff is simple – no 2-4 years to learn the complicated playbook? never mind – I doubt we will see him on the Beaver sidelines.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      Montana: According to The Missoulian, Colorado School of Mines head coach Bob Stitt has emerged as a candidate for the Montana head-coaching job.

      • Jack says:
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        Effed up by not jumping on Leipold when they had the chance. Not much more to be said.

  • Bill says:
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    Since no reputable media person is reporting this, I don’t think it’s true.

    The only known report is that OSU has made contact with him. That’s it.

    Otherwise, not a bad choice but not a game changer either.

  • Timber! says:
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    Does Lincoln know about Hip Hip yet? Oh Boy! Cain’t Wait!

  • BeavinTX says:
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    Bronco is 10-8 against the Pac-10/12. I’d expect a similar average record from him in the Pac-12.

    Can you really see him competing for a Pac-12 Championship? I’m not sure I can…

  • helmsley says:
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    thumbs up X 100 – & I’ve watched a CSM game x 2!

  • ean says:
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    I guess to use the baseball analogy I would consider Bronco a triple. Is he really a Mormon? That might be a benefit really. OSU usually has a handful of Mormons on the team. Polynesians were at one point a huge part of OSUs past success, it would be nice to get back to that and there are a lot of Polynesian Mormons.

    • angry angry says:
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      My only concern is he wouldn’t recruit well with the non LDS guys…he’d have to hire a strong recruiter.

      Someone above was mentioning he’s lost rivalry games to Utah. Utah has much better talent with an equally great coach. They killed Georgia. Utah is a good program not sure what the insult there is all about.

      • Jack says:
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        This is a part of it. The other part would be clashing cults in religiosity if Bronco came to Corvallis. There are very few big boosters who would even entertain the idea that Jesus Star Trekked himself to the Americas and taught some kind of something to them before he Star Trekked his way back to hippie-dom and eventual death.

  • BeaverQB BeaverQB says:
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    Meh.

    Seems like a low risk, low reward (potential) hire. No recruits are going to get excited to come to Corvallis to play for the former BYU coach. I’m sure he’d continue to find 2- and 3-star recruits and try to develop them into Pac-12 players, but there’s no splash or sizzle with him.

    I still would like OSU to try and catch lightning in a bottle with an up and coming coordinator like Frost or new HC like Wells. Even if that new hire flamed out badly, I would at least be able to defend OSU for trying.

    • Frosty says:
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      Bronco not that bad but Frost and Wells both preferable. If we can’t land Frost for some reason we should at least be able to get Wells.

  • Riley Sucks says:
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    If OSU can hire Bronco, my expectations will have been exceeded.

    • Jack says:
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      That’s a given for you and the low bar you set with your handle.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Safe hire to get back to pre regression Riley.. 8-9 wins max.. Not sure he gets us over the hump to competing for pac 12 championships every several years.. Which is where I believe we all want to go.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Downward trend. Is he a younger version of Riley?

    • TurnTwo says:
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      Agreed. Safe hire would be the correct term. I too don’t see him bringing Pac-12 titles to Corvallis. Would someone in the AD’s office show some stones and hire someone that says OSU is in it to win it!

      Hope it isn’t true…

  • angry angry says:
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    Mamma Machado: “Although Twitter has been abuzz with rumors of Bronco Mendenhall going to OSU, a good source tells me that he is not interested in the Oregon State job and has plans to stay at BYU, it is a great fit for him and his family.”

    • Timber! says:
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      “Twitter” = AB

    • BeavinTX says:
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      So..uh..new post? Bob Stitt?

    • Frosty says:
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      So Wells could get the offer. Excellent. He’s the best realistic option unless Frost is obtainable.

      • Jack says:
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        Realistic?

        Are you the bean counter’s apologist? Wells deserves a look. But he isn’t the end all be all.

        PYHOOYA!!!!!

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    I never got the impression Bronco cared about Oregon State. There’s an old interview where he says he picked OSU simply because he’d have the chance to play against BYU.

    I can see the Riley comparisons people are making. He never did better than a Las Vegas Bowl and has been worse the past 5 years. BYU fans seem like they would be happy to see him go, much like we were with Riley.

    • scotty says:
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      Sounds like he loves his alma mater about as much as Lindsay does

      • angry angry says:
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        Yeah if that’s the case don’t want him

      • ean says:
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        OSU does seem like a low end journalism school. Do we even have a journalism program or did she just get an English degree. Jason Quick went to OSU and he is always bashing Corvallis too.

        • angry angry says:
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          Hey, I wrote a fairly successful novel. That one grad, Mike Rich, wrote like 7 hollywood movies!

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            I wasn’t talking bad about the English department… just wondering if we even have a journalism school. Plus I think the college rankings stuff is silly anyway. School like everything else in life is about what you put into it.

          • Timber! says:
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            Mike Oriard has a good rep.

        • Bill says:
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          There is no journalism program. She wrote for the barometer.

    • BeavinTX says:
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      I’ve heard the same from Utah folks I work with. BYU is his dream job.

  • ean says:
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    I still want Frost!

    • Jack says:
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      But why?

      • angry angry says:
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        Because he’s a hot name and associated with the Ducks.

        I want a good coach. Period.

        Frost might be good or might not. Seems better for a team that needs to completely rebuild. OSU has talent so just need a good coach. I’m not anti Frost just don’t think people realize what they’re wishing for or why.

      • ean says:
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        I detailed this in earlier posts but it relates to tempo. Frost has learned from Kelly and Belichick the two best coaches at controlling tempo.

        • angry angry says:
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          There’s a lot more to being head coach than controlling tempo.

          What I see is speculation and projection. More of thise transitive property logic (since he learned from coach x he must be y). Eric Mangini learned under Belichick. Epic Fail. Belicheck learned under Parcells. Epic fail (until he lucked into Brady via Beldsoe injury).

          Frost should get an interview, but he needs to be absolutely grilled on it. Bob D has to come out of there knowing this guy is ready to take the step and actually run a program, which is a lot different than inheriting a high powered offense that was in place for you.

          I’m not anti Frost. I’ve just had the emotions run out and now am thinking more logically. And we need a real coach/leader first and foremost.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Move to Minnesota, we get plenty of it.

  • angry angry says:
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    I wrote Stanford and asked for a media pass to their upcoming events. They never wrote me back. I guess I am still not media.

  • Timber! says:
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    Today’s facilities press conference, 1:30.

    View here –

    http://pac-12.com/videos/oregon-state-university-2

  • TJOSU says:
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    Mendenhall is boring and a low risk, low reward hire. Downward trending. Barely an improvement over Riley. But I’d love to be wrong about him.

    Who do you think he would hire as his staff? Do you think he would take most of his staff with him? What is his current staff even like?

    • Jack says:
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      Yup.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      That’s pretty much how I feel. Better than Riley but doesn’t blow my skirt up.

      I haven’t watched any BYU games, what kind of offense do they run and who is their OC?

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    It seemed like this post by grackle on the P.O. website should be posted here.

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    http://www.pure-orange.net/cgi/anyboard.cgi/bscpigskin?cmd=get&cG=13139323&zu=31313530&v=2&gV=0&p=

    Get serious…the only reason he (Mendenhall) ever came to OSU to begin with was

    “…..to get back at BYU [for not recruiting him]…the only motivation to choose Oregon State was that they were going to play BYU.” (his words, not mine)

    And, oh yeah, he just LOVES Corvallis:

    “I remember moving into the dorms and counting 38 days straight of rain, and I thought ‘What have I done?'” (his words, not mine)

    His overall take on OSU:

    On game day against BYU, “We won. Oregon State won. I remember after the game I lay spread-eagle on the 50-yard line on the field (at LaVell Edwards Stadium) and then I got up and, walking back to the locker room I had a very distinctive thought: ‘Now what? That wasn’t worth it.'” (his words, not mine)
    ———————–

    Sure, he’s reflecting on his long-ago days here, but ol’ Bronco has never had anything nice to say about C-town/OSU since then. I can just imagine BDC getting season tix sales ramped up next year with this sourpuss as the face of OSU football. This guy would be a PR disaster from the get-go….

    As I said before, BDC/Ed Ray may be a lot of things, but one of them isn’t stupid. There are far better candidates out there who would really love to come to OSU/C-town.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Orgeron hasn’t been mentioned for a while. He relates that his problems at Ole Miss were self induced and he had trouble working with his assistants. Says he learned from his USC experience and particularly from Pete C on how to deal with people.

    http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=Ed-Orgeron-We-have-a-couple-irons-in-the-fire

  • Timber! says:
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    Jack, we haven’t seen a music vid from you in a while. Why don’t you give us your best Coach Searching Blues tune for us…

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    If Bronco comes it might up the giving to OSU. Don’t Mormans require 20% of your income as tithe?

  • TJOSU says:
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    well, Cuntzano has proclaimed his endorsement for the OSU coaching job. Pat Hill. The guy that was fired from Fresno State in 2011. I guess out of all the retreads that are attainable for OSU, he would be best. Probably a lateral step from Mendenhall in my opinion.

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      DO NOT WANT

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      I don’t think I’ve had a prouder moment in OSU football then when Aric Williams drilled that Fresno guy early on the punt return in retaliation for the Fresno cat who did it the year prior to Roberts (and multiple others that season if I recall correctly.) Then again, Roberts was a dick (at least in college) so I wasn’t that mad he’s the Beaver to get drilled.

      All that being said Pat Hill’s an ass. Can’t see him as the coach.

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        I remember that play. It got the crowd into a frenzy. They crushed Fresno that game. It was early and you knew when OSU was going to drill the the returner on the first punt and take the foul.

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        Any idea where I could find video of this? Digging, but only finding news articles.

    • Jack says:
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      Zano is loopy on some strong stuff there.

    • angry angry says:
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      Not even worth commenting on because Pat Hill is not the next coach.

  • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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    Press conference @ 1:30 today to discuss “significant enhancements” of the football facilities.

    Link: http://ow.ly/FG3fj

  • RanYakumo RanYakumo says:
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    Here’s the deal with me and Mendenhall:

    If we absolutely have to hire a realistic retread coach ala Tedford, Hoke, etc, he’s my #1 pick.

    Otherwise, I would much rather take a chance on Wilcox, Pendergast, or another DC. If not an up and coming DC, then an OC like Wells or Frost coupled with a good DC.

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    Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) tweeted at 0:56 PM on Wed, Dec 10, 2014:
    Del Rio not a candidate to coach his son at Oregon State: http://t.co/UuEtMQR7T3 via @mikeklis
    (https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/542785060454154240?s=03)

    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13

    • Jack says:
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      duh

      This just in:

      duh

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        Did this already get posted today? Sorry, been out all morning and missed most of everything that’s happened (or not happened today)

        This is sad watching Bob fumble through the papers so he can read his speech. Seriously sad little press conference.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Ok. I’ll take the job I promise to:

    1) have entertaining press conferences
    2) get rid of the stupid chainsaw noise
    3) awesome Oregon microbrews at Truax
    4) keep everything left in the lost and found at Reser
    5) kick Peko’s ass to the curb, but make one last run at Kuli.

  • Timber! says:
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    iPad Bob?

  • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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    Bob De Carolis looks like shit… He is really struggling with his medical conditions…

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I have zero faith in our leadership. Sorry, i know Bob has health issues, but he just exudes no confidence whatsoever.

    • Calibeav says:
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      “Keep the faith” he said.. Sigh… He also really came across as a dick that whole presser..

      Yikes!!!! Its hard to believe that is the guy in charge of Athletics for our school… Good Grief

  • Ronix1080 Ronix1080 says:
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    Wow BDC was terrible in that opening address.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      This past week must just be killing the guy. So much going on with Riley leaving, fielding coaching candidates, gathering boosters, writing a VFC opening address. He’s not used to having to work this hard.

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      Jesus fucking hairy asshole christ. I know I’m hard on BDC, but now I just feel sorry for him.

  • osubaby osubaby says:
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    wont open, what site are you watching on?

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    Ed Ray showing a little fire, in a cliche’ Presidential way, but at least good to hear he’s behind athletics at least a little.

  • Timber! says:
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    Massari on the rooooooad…?

  • angry angry says:
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    Thread up for the VFC issue.

  • Jack says:
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    Hoiy crap!

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