10.Oct.2015 Post game thoughts (Oregon State v Arizona)
Most of my thoughts were shared in the other thread.
I feel this game was an absolute disaster for Collins. Earlier in the season, I said it would take ~ six games before the smoke cleared and we had any clue about the QB position. This is my feeling on where we are, copied from the prior thread:
I want to be clear: I am down on Collins as a PASSER, and always have been. I didn’t like his personality early on, but he grew on me as he grew up and gave better interviews. I can only go by what I see. I love him as a runner, and I see the leadership. I’m not blind and not biased. If he improves I’ll reassess. I’m not tied to MM or any other player. I hope this is clear. MM was a C+ at best. People seem to confuse me picking MM as the best option to start with me claiming MM would be good once he did start. I never said that.
Now that I have seen 5 games of Collins, I can see what he is. A guy who can pass and run vs D2 schools, but can’t do much vs legit D1 schools. He might do okay vs Pac-12 bottom feeders.
I don’t get fooled by athleticism. I grew up in NYC during the Darryl Strawberry/Doc Gooden era. I saw “potential” and all world athleticism that went nowhere. I know what it takes to be great, and it is not raw athleticism. If Collins ever has a Eureka moment and gains those skills, I will gladly point them out and agree he is great. I’m not tied to any player or paradigm, and I’m always ready to shift as players prove themselves. As of now, I view Collins as a liability vs teams with a pulse. This is how I viewed him all along.
Another question is Sitake. I was skeptical of him from the start. There are threads, if you use search, where I point out he wasn’t very good vs spread teams, etc, and seemed dull when speaking. A lot of guys are questioning him after today’s blowout. Is it fair? Not sure. I’d say verdict is out, but keep a close eye on him. Some of these defenders are embarrassing, so it’s not all his fault.
Also, where are all the Mangeo fans? Was his name mentioned once today, besides 15 yards downfield? “Stud” LB label a bit premature? A guy should have to prove it over many games rather than one good game. Just saying.
This game had the potential to put the Beavs ahead of schedule. Now they’re on schedule (you had to expect 2-3, if being realistic). The upcoming two games become large. We need to see improvement and progression.