28.Aug.2017 Moving on to PSU

VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)

Obviously I’m not as down on the defense as some of you guys. I saw the yardage totals and all that, but I also saw a team wiped out from travel. Check out the pre-game video I posted in the other thread. One guy, Kee Whetzel, had energy enough to raise his arms and yell “let’s go” (or something like that) in the tunnel. The rest ambled out lethargically. On top of that, they were facing what will likely be a top 10 or 15 National offense. Despite the perception of lower conferences, there is little difference these days, so that means something. Also, I saw them get pressure on the QB a bunch and force the INT despite all these issues. As I mentioned as well, the offense was responsible for 20 to 27 of those points, and the short fields demoralize a D, etc. It wasn’t as bad as it looked.

So, I think they will be fine barring injuries. The DT going down is huge as that’s a thin position. Things like that worry me more than the performance.

With the PSU game, we should see OSU go back to relying on the ground game. Expect a short game where they run and just wind down the clock. PSU will stack the box, and Luton might get a few 1 on 1 shots to look great again. We’ll see if he can do anything with those chances. But otherwise I think the lesson was learned the hard way — shiny new toys sometimes have more value left in the box.

35-7 OSU

Jump to Bottom
  • Beav in DE says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +5 (from 5 votes)

    I’m having a hard time caring about this one. Are we really going to learn anything by beating PSU other than “yes, we do suck” or “at least we can beat a FCS team?” Let’s just hope no one gets hurt.

    Wake me when it’s Minnesota week.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +5 (from 5 votes)

      I’ll hit you with an oar while I’m rowing the boat

      • ReverendBeave says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        That’s funny. How is row the boat being received? It seemed to work at WMU but does it become corny when he’s using it again?

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          Probably pretty good considering there are 1000 lakes in Minnesota. It’s pretty much the only thing they do good.

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          Some hate it. Some like it. Most accept it as the price of actually getting the hot coach for once.

          • ReverendBeav says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

            I’m sure it beats hip, hip, hooray. 🙂

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            But do y’all love the “row the boat” plastered on the stripe of the new lids? That is frickin lame.

  • WFO WFO says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    I wonder if they’ll try shuffling the O line around any to improve run blocking or if they’ll sell out to keep Luton on his feet.

  • Corliss says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    I want more God dam winning and I want it NOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Whooooooooooooooooooooo!

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Should be hotter than Little Jimmy Dickens on Saturday.

  • Homefry Homefry says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Good thing it’s at 11, only 79 then

  • Burritodam says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    ESPN has the team at 94.5% winning this one, but I don’t think it is that mcgiven. More like 75%. I think enough defensive deficiencies will be addressed. I figure psu will go with the bait the OC/qb with low hanging fruit if possible. I’m guessing -3 on turnovers. Gonna have to up that take-away margin for the d.

    • Ughh says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

      Mc’scuse me?

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 8 votes)

      Defense doesn’t have a Clune.

      What worried me about the defense is the redzone. CSU went 8 of 8 in the redzone(2 field goals and 6 TD’s). If the D had held them to 5 field goals, 2 TD’s, the loss wouldn’t look as bad because the final would have been 27-43, but we couldn’t hold them to field goals because the defense gave up because they were tired, defeated and had the look of, “What’s the point if our Offense will go 3 and out in a matter of 1 minute or less anyway? Make this loss ‘look’ less worse than it is?”

      • Burritodam says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        You just described the 2015 beavers. I just hope they show up hydrated this Saturday. You know, the basics.

  • bleedorange says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Does anyone have a link of the press conference?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    when asked about Xavier Crawford’s post game comments about the Beavs not coming out ready in the 2nd half…

    GA: “Who said that?!”

    reporter: “Xavier Crawford”

    GA: “First thing I’ve heard of it….so….if that’s the way he feels, he needs to look in the mirror and get his own ass ready to play football. Football team was ready when they walked out of the locker room. Sounds like an excuse again to me and I’m tired of that. I should probably watch my mouth before I really start swearing…..it’s a cop out”

    Gary’s fiesty today

    • goBeavers goBeavers says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +8 (from 12 votes)

      Hmm… maybe GA needs to get a better bead on the pulse of his team.

      • helmsley says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Perhaps Isaac Garcia made a good choice. Anybody know where he is now?

    • Doozeldorf says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

      Yeah, he isn’t too pleased about some of the comments made by the players. I think he’s sensing a lack of cohesiveness and “team” mentality.

      But it is interesting that GA always puts the loss on the coaches when he talks to the media, but if he senses the players attribute a loss to coaching or lack of preparation he calls BS.

      • angry angry says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

        Lies always break down.

        • Doozeldorf says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

          Yep. Also, he’s going to lose the team if he trashes them in front of the media. He needs to take that shit to the locker room.

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

            It all seems a little coordinated.

            Then again, I would have coordinated running the damn ball.

            So what do I know?

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      At 18:30 in the bleacherreport version, GA seems to be referencing Crawford when he says he expects SA’s not to “act like an immature little kid when in front of an audience.”

      Crawford’s performance now becomes a focal point and potential divisive or uniting element. Sports psychology, anyone?

      Here is probably the best link to the entire presser:
      https://youtu.be/PlLmMGAEPuY

    • mckalk mckalk says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      How did Crawford personally play? I fast forwarded through most of the shit show, so I don’t remember. And again, GA needs to shut the fuck up with the cliches, are the players tougher, stronger and faster or not? Was your game plan as sharp as it could have been? Enough, go win some games (or at least don’t give up 58 points) or go back to Utah St.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Well, according to GA, he didn’t rate the “champion” performance category; that went to my man “Old Man Willis”, Titus, and Kalani Vakameilalo.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

        “How did Crawford play?”

        Remember that receiver for CSU that caught all those passes against us? Almost half of them were caught with Crawford covering him. And at least 1 touchdown given up by him. Not very freshman all-american like.

        • Calibeavs says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          Crawford played terrible. He got ran the fuck over early on and was bad the rest of the way. The game clinching pass he watched helplessly as Gallup glided past him to make an impressive catch. Crawford couldn’t be bothered to make a play on the ball even though he was in position to do so.

          • WFO WFO says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            Crawford was a freshman all american while Treston Decoud covered the opponent’s #1 receiver 95% of the time. Out there as the big man might a big pair of shoes.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -1 (from 5 votes)

    I’m only up to 4:40 minutes of the presser and I’m NOT HAPPY with GA’s attitude. Looks to me like he’s in denial.

    • Issaquahbeav says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)

      Better than Riley’s pressers. Andersen is pissed and I like it.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

        It’s ok, but if it goes on much longer it just becomes schtick, like Riley, but just on the opposite side of the clueless coach spectrum.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          So GA should be slightly clueless and adequately agitated?

          • mckalk mckalk says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            Agitated and clueless or bemused and clueless? It all equals shitty coaching, right? Key word, “clueless”.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Any time I hear Danny ask a question in these settings, he always sounds so timid, like he’s ready to have somebody knock him in the teeth at any given moment.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +7 (from 7 votes)

      Moran? He didn’t seem too timid when he destroyed Heimlich’s career.

      • beavers4life beavers4life says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

        Freedom of press, but right to refusal should be the way OSU handles Moran being in press conferences. If I were Anderson or Scott I wouldn’t allow him near coaches and players at this point. And if he asks a question, just ignore him or State, I’ll think about that and come back to you, but never do.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      He didn’t finish his background checks. Can you blame him?

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    I see Nicebeaver has reported what GA said that really pissed me off.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 8 votes)

    Fuck it. I’m not in the right frame of mind to listen to any more of that bull shit. 4:40 was enough for me. Fuck it and fuck him.

  • Issaquahbeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

    PSU gave BYU all they can handle this past weekend. I don’t see OSU whooping up on them but more of a grind it out, ugly win. If we lose this weekend, the wheels will have really fallen off the orange wagon.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    Interesting soap opera drama/side story regarding PSU for this week.
    Coach Barnum has been cheating on his wife with the wife of a former PSU player/booster, Cam Carillo. Carillo went to the athletic director upon finding out his wife had been cheating but the situation was largely ignored until recently. Cam posted about it on Facebook briefly.

    “I’m done with Portland State,” Carrillo said. “I’m not supporting them financially. I’ve thrown out literally every single piece of PSU equipment I own. I feel completely betrayed by the athletic department, by the football program and by Bruce Barnum.”

    Last week, Carrillo posted his feelings on a Facebook page dedicated to Portland State football alumni.

    It read: “Bruce Burnham (sic) has been under investigation and has been hiding his involvement and misconduct case with my wife. He is lying to everyone and is playing a victim at the University, and the Athletic department is plotting for a cover up as we speak. I will not accept people not be held accountable. The staff and the families that trust this man to be a leader and a father figure need to know the truth. My family is destroy. I loved this university and gave my heart and soul to the program since I signed with PSU. The other coaches had nothing to do with this and should not be judged in negative manner. I will say the the athletic director Valerie (Cleary) ignored my request to make sure this was handled appropriately, instead, Valerie, the Athletic Department and the University have tried to brush this under the rug. My name stands for something. I will not be disrespected any longer. I know there are people that will choose sides and support Barnum through this and I understand your loyalty. This is about what’s right and wrong. He is wrong and a fraud and it’s time he accepts responsibility for his part in all this. Good bye to my Portland State brothers. I will never forget the blood sweat and tears we shed together.”

    Carrillo took down the Facebook post after two days.

    Now go look up pictures of Bruce Barnum. Not sure how he is able to persuade anybody to cheat on their current partner….

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/369607-252520-portland-state-disciplines-football-coach-bruce-barnum

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      The wife is pretty cute, too.
      She must have serious mental problems.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        I tried looking her up. Wasn’t sure if she was the cute blonde that came up? Or the fitness/gym instructor?
        Either way, like you said, mental problems. Cam is lucky he found out and now he can cut bait and move on with his life. sucks for their kids though. They’ll never think of “Barney Ball” the same way.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          Barney was balls deep in Cams wife.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

            Yeah, we know, we read it.

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            I didn’t read anything. But I have a logistical question.

            If the man is balls deep, doesn’t that mean he has a short dick? If I go by average vagina depth, balls deep gives rise to maxims about the motion of the ocean.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Any ladies want to chime in?

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Apparently they’re busy visiting prisons.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

            “Any ladies want to chime in?”

            Lol, all one of them? And no offense to BeavGirl, but that could just as easily be a 400 pound dude in his mom’s basement.

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Ha!

            Or the Chinese.

          • scotty says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Some women have small nooks, some giant caverns. Dick size isn’t the only thing that varies

        • Cake says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          The blonde, not the fitness instructor.

      • WFO WFO says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Daddy issues.

  • ohiobeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

    Back to GA presser. If he is throwing players under the bus for speaking frankly and making their personal observations of how the game went, he will loose the guys pretty quickly, especially when X Crawford was expected to be one of the leaders. Manase is quoted as saying there was little trust or communication on the field. Perhaps GA hasn’t been told about that quote yet and he will bench his best 2 defensive players for PSU.
    His tough guy attitude isn’t proper towards the players when the issue obviously lays at the feet of those who dreamed up a hurry-up pass offense game-plan for that match-up. Every player on the team has enough sense to know that that was a hair-brained notion if it means Nall, Pierce, Tyner don’t run the ball. I don’t see how GA can have any moral high-ground as the coach for the guys if he is ticked off after 2 days and can’t keep a lid on his own emotions long enough to go speak to the players personally, instead of being baited at a Monday presser.

    Tumwater Dave made the best argument so far about the game: The Beavers were again set up to be the patsy for a team on the rise and we opted to give CSU a 3 hr national promo video for their school and conference while being the butt of a national laugh “Crying McBeaver”. The change of dates was a mistake and we should have been playing them after they just got clobbered by Alabama instead, in week 4 which is a much likelier scenario or a win. A bye week before Washington doesn’t gain anything at this point.

    • Issaquahbeav says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      Manase had a shit game. Dude missed numerous tackles on Saturday.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      Bears repeating:

      His tough guy attitude isn’t proper towards the players when the issue obviously lays at the feet of those who dreamed up a hurry-up pass offense game-plan for that match-up. …. I don’t see how GA can have any moral high-ground as the coach for the guys if he is ticked off after 2 days and can’t keep a lid on his own emotions long enough to go speak to the players personally, instead of being baited at a Monday presser.

      I, generally, like GA’s tough approach, but here he is on the wrong side of TWO issues:
      1) he apparently doesn’t recognize the folly of the approach taken by McGiven
      2) it was a mistake to respond to a quote he had just heard; get the facts from Crawford and address things man-to-man.

      Angry has called Luton the “new toy”, not a bad take. I am reminded of the saying that when you have a new hammer everything looks like a nail……..same idea. And a bad one right now.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

        What did Crawford even say that was so damning?
        “We didnt come out ready to play in the 2nd half”?

        He wasn’t pointing fingers at anybody in particular. Sounds like a harmless answer that players typically use as a response in a post game presser after a loss.
        What would be an acceptable response by Crawford?
        “My ass wasn’t ready to play”?

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

          At San Francisco State that would not be an acceptable response.

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

            You mean USF, not some imaginary group.

            You need men of God taking care of your innuendo, or it’s not as funny as it could be.

          • StateU StateU says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Inyourendo

  • Jim says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    The thing with the defense is CSU just drove right through them from the get-go. Before altitude, heat, turnovers, etc. were an impact.

  • GreatSwammi says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Apparently, John Canzano and the O didn’t like me calling out Canzano over the hypocrisy of his radio program The Game on 750 radio being sponsored by the DolphinII Strip Club so he had them shut down not only my user ID but also my IP address. Therefore, I can no longer post on that POS’s articles or website. Given the fact that some Duck fans think they have somehow won the “natty” with OSU’s blowout loss to CSU, it sure would be nice to tell them what I think. Well, this is a much better place to share opinions anyway so as far as I’m concerned, Canzano can take his high and mighty morality and shove it along with the O.

    • WFO WFO says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Don’t get drawn in to that shit show.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        I’m convinced there’s only like 4 or 5 guys that post over their with 50 different handles. And all they do is argue with themselves.

        • ohiobeav says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

          ^^^^^This for sure. Reading any of the comments on Olive is like watching babies spit at each other and no one to tell them it isn’t ok. I actually have wondered if the commenters are all on payroll just to create something to read in addition to the garbage articles they print as news and journalism. None of it is worth my time, emotion or energy.

        • scotty says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

          They should be Jack and be 4 or 5 guys that post with one same handle

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

            They sound boring… and a little thicker than you lot.

    • scotty says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      Getting around an IP ban or two or three or…. is easy 😉
      Angrybeavs technical tutoring session?

  • Mammothboner6969 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -6 (from 8 votes)

    If you are wanting to re-watch the game

    • scotty says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      Didn’t the Supreme Court uphold the ban on obscenity? Because I know it when I see it, and that game was obscene!

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      I watched the first two scoring plays and ya, it was obvious that they were methodical and their hurry up is better than Oregon state’s hurry up. McGiven the fact is, you need to go or woods should be our OC along with the passing coordinator

  • judge34 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 6 votes)

    After taking way to long to get over that embarrassment i only have one question, when is this fraud of a head coaches contract up? He ain’t getting to a bowl this year that’s for sure, and all he seems to know anything about is how to put on “big boy pants”. Wisconsin sure lucked out. But i’m just venting so i hope nobody takes offense to my rambling.

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

      Someone made a good point how maybe we’re Wisconsin’s “Those poor bastards”…

    • Doozeldorf says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +5 (from 5 votes)

      Well, Andersen’s stock is certainly losing value. Shareholders need to see some ROI, but so far the only thing GA has shown us is toughness in his own attitude. If he can’t build a team that can win more than 4 games a season, our boosters are going to get tired of throwing money at a bad program. Those who are yelling about finishing the stadium can get that right out of thier heads until GA gets a couple winning seasons. Barnes knows it doesn’t make sense to spend the boosters’ money on a bunch of new, empty seats.

    • Doozeldorf says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Oh, and his contract goes through 2021, so I guess patience is our best friend.

  • Calibeavs says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    Full quote from Crawford that Ga flipped out about and starting cussing

    For what it’s worth this is Xavier Crawford’s quote in the Portland Tribune……

    “They came out (for the second half) ready, and we didn’t,” OSU cornerback Xavier Crawford said. “They came out hot, and we weren’t ready for it.”

    This is accurate and factual and GA owes the kid an apology for saying he needs to get his ass in gear or whatever it was he said. X played like shit but so did the entire defense not named Titus or Kalani.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Was GA given the full quote? Or did they just say “Crawford said the team wasn’t ready for the second half”? Because to me, that makes a difference.

      Btw, was it Moran who asked that question?

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Just happened to turn on the radio and GA was being interviewed. Tuned right while he was in the middle of apologizing for over reacting to what Crawford said and now “we’re all good”
      Missed most of the conversation so I’ll dig up the podcast of it later.

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        https://youtu.be/fbkhoc-3I48

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Glad you happened upon GA’s comment this morning, hope the link is posted soon.

        It sounded like Danny who said (on the tape at 4:18), of XC’s remarks, ” the biggest shift from the 1st half to the second was that CSU came out ready and he (XC) didn’t feel like, um you know, the defense and the offense came out ready”

        Eggers quote in the Trib (which matches the report in the GT) is slightly different……“They came out (for the second half) ready, and we didn’t,” OSU cornerback Xavier Crawford said. “They came out hot, and we weren’t ready for it.

        Interestingly, GA is quoted by Eggers as saying, “”We can all call it what we want,” he said. “Yeah, it was a close game at the half, turnovers, blah blah blah. … when you have a team do what they did to us … we couldn’t answer the bell in the second half. “

        • Jack Jack says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

          That’s a fair take.

          What most of us here are saying is that we had the opportunity to be the ones ringing the bell midway through the second quarter, but we decided not to do so.

          We pushed them to their breaking point then relented. To make matters worse, I think it was on a scoring drive… the one to Togiai. We were pounding them, and they were going to break. Then we called a couple quick strikes, and the drive was over. It’s hard to eschew that guaranteed 7 points for more points later. And I’m claiming they wouldn’t have had to do so anyway. AP was likely a run or two away from breaking it at that point. That’s how gassed their D looked. I think another prison break run would have killed their motivation more than the neat pass plays did.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        https://www.iheart.com/podcast/523-Rip-City-Mornings-28251808/episode/8-29-17-coach-gary-anderson-full-interview-28418690/

        Link to the GA interview this morning (you might need to have a google or facebook acct to access the recording)

        Crawford comments are around the 7 minute mark.
        I guess it’s not really an apology so much as it is an explanation for his response. Apologizing would be a sign of weakness and little boy pants wearing.

  • Calibeavs says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Willis too I thought Willis played well and AHM had ages nice plays. Also he’ll of a play from Kyle White on the pick and I liked the anger David Morris played with in limited reps.

    The rest of the d was soft

    • WFO WFO says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Did Aydon ever come back in after he went out early?

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Nope, they took his helmet and I saw him on crutches some time during the 4th.

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        No. He went out early in the 1st. It looked like their C had a grapple hold on him then pulled him down. causing a hyperextension in the left knee. It was away from the play and totally unnecessary. But maybe that’s what happens when football teams have the right edge to be top 5 material.

        When you don’t expect your opponent will do these things, you are inexperienced.

        • Jack Jack says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          That’s not to say that it was a dirty play. The injury happened because Elu could see the play and let up before the whistle. We can talk about the grapple hold until we’re blue in the face. Apparently that’s part of the game now.

          But it speaks to mentality going into the game. Play through the whistle, if only for your own safety.

          • WFO WFO says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            Yeah, and probably a small glimpse in to his mentality. There are guys that are going to try to rip your limbs off every play until the whistle blows. Not hacking on the kid at all, he may just not be a killer. Doesn’t mean he can’t do his job, and I bet he learned a valuable, painful lesson.

    • helmsley says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Since the team was being humiliated anyway, would it have been appropriate to substitute personnel in order to see how they performed. Given the coaching staff’s screwups on game planning and playcalling, perhaps they’re screwing up with that as well.

  • Corliss says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    So Elu has confirmed hyperextended knee? Estimated games he will miss??

    • Jack Jack says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      That’s just what it looked like. I have no idea what the structural damage might be, if there is any. But you can list off best to worst case scenarios in your head and have some realistic expectations. That he wasn’t allowed to play but came back to the bench was promising. He was probably on crutches later because he didn’t ice it thoroughly to avoid inflammation, which will put you in crutches. He could also have some soft damage that causes said inflammation.

      If I had to call it, I would say worst case would be a partial ACL tear. Best would be a sore knee with related muscle strains.

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        I also wouldn’t be surprised if his back was sore just by the way he was yanked down.

      • calibeav says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Elu is listed as questionable for PSU so probably not too serious.

        Seth , Kell and Winston remain out.

    • LA Pine says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Aydon is listed as questionable in this week’s game notes.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Totally off topic, but came across this Kerry Eggers piece about the idea of bringing MLB to Portland. One of the guys who has been trying to make it a reality for years is talking about trying to get a ballpark built out of timber for the first time in 100 years in this country. The timber product uses wood mixed with synthetic materials to give make it more structurally sound, so it can be used similar to how steel and concrete are used in a typical stadium set up. Sounds interesting at least, although I still doubt it will ever get built in Portland.

    http://portlandtribune.com/sl/366660-248408-making-wood-work-for-timber-town-baseball

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      What if a Beaver attacks it?

    • MB says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      May be interesting. But it is not feasible in 2017 with current technology and manufacturing standards. Why not include a hyperloop?

    • Bill says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Definitely a minor league idea. No major sports team would go for an unproven idea. However a minor league team would go for something like that.

  • Bill says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Weather supposed to be near 100 degrees on sat.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      So….all black uniforms for the home team with our sideline in the sun, while PSU is in the shade in all whites.
      Happens every freaking year.

      Then we’ll wonder why our team looks more tired than the visiting team.

      • Ryan says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        I was just thinking the same thing. Who ever makes our team color choices needs a quick education on certain color schemes to avoid in hot weather. Please no black at all…

    • gobeavers92 says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

      With the game starting at 11AM both sidelines will be in the sun most if not the entire game. Still no way we should wear black.

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      White helmets, orange jerseys, white pants and orange cleats or white cleats? Thank you Angry for pointing out the error in my comment

    • Beav2000 says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      I’m glad it will be hot…..this team needs to overcome the heat…..maybe they needed better condition in before CSU? That’s on the staff.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -2 (from 2 votes)

    Looks like Bright’s family lost their house to the Houston flooding.

    https://twitter.com/BrightUgwoegbu/status/902567170902605824

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Smooth move by Nemec. Inadvertantly tweeted out Isaiah Small’s address. Hope he takes it down. I can’t imagine newspapers have a right to share information about a minor like that.

    https://twitter.com/AndrewNemec/status/902647714176835584

    • marcodg marcodg says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Looks like he took it down. Did he thank you for bringing it to his attention?

  • helmsley says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    “Then we’ll wonder why our team looks more tired than the visiting team.” No, I will only wonder what idiot makes the decision in the first place and is there a rule that says they can’t change their minds.

  • calibeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    The hurricane situation probably explains Bright’s poor game Saturday. Much more important things were on the mind.

  • Corliss says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +5 (from 5 votes)

    Offense

    During the civil war game last year, the beavs were running plays with a lot of motion. One receiver motioned to right and another to the left and then Nall took it up the middle.

    I didnt see much of that vs CSU. I wonder why? those plays did not require QB to run the ball….

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      It’s most likely because they didn’t want penalties of illegal shift, false starts, not enough men on the line of scrimmage. We had how many freshman/true freshman play at WR Saturday?

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        There were time the formation was messed up, or very close to it, where the WR was too close to the line of scrimmage, making the other receiver actually on the line ineligible.

  • mexibeav mexibeav says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)

    In today’s practice report:

    “Offensive coordinator Kevin McGiven immediately highlighted the turnovers as the most glaring takeaway from the loss at Colorado State. He estimated that the Beavers were in position to score on six of the 10 drives in which they did not give the ball away, which is a pretty solid percentage.

    “You can’t win a lot of games with five turnovers. It’s just the execution. That’s what it all comes down to. Forty points is easily attainable. We showed we can be a great offense. We can move the ball at will. We just can’t beat ourselves.”

    Seriously? This guy is a hack. He doesn’t take any responsibility for the outcome of the game. How about the fly sweep to a freshman in your own territory? What about all those plays that killed our drives because you wanted to air it out when we only needed a 3-5 yards?

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 5 votes)

      Translation: we wanted to use our shiny new toy, we got burned in doing so, and now we have to throw some players under the bus and spew rhetoric to keep our seats cool.

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Ironic that the 60% of our drives ‘would have resulted in scores’. Isn’t that the same magic number for our running game? Maybe he meant we could have ran the ball more 6 out of the 10 drives that sputtered?

    • NiceBeaver NiceBeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +6 (from 6 votes)

      What about running pass plays to the right side of the field before a field goal, so your kicker needs to kick a 52 yarder across his body? If you re-watch that missed field goal, it had plenty of distance but was wide right. If he had kicked from the left or center hash marks, he would have hit that one with ease.
      Game was tied at 17 at that point, and gave CSU great field position, which led to a score. To me, that counts as a turnover.

    • Beav2000 says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      Yea not impressed with McGivens take…..dude needs to man up and take some responsibility as to why he didn’t use Nall more effectively.

  • Beav2000 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

    I pretty much agree with angrys take……as soon as Luton was chuckin it all over, inaccurately with all the time in the world, they adjusted, and our fate was slowly but surely sealed….defense didn’t stand a chance

  • ohiobeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

    The Beavs were close to controlling the game on offense in the 2nd quarter and should’ve taken a patient approach to just grind a nine minute drive and go into the half up by 7. Instead, they passed 2x at the 30 and stopped the clock, then missed the fg. At that point, CSU put on the gas and it was over, Togiai td/no td notwithstanding. I think the Beavs coaches had to have a long view of that game and shorten it by running and running some more. The problem wasn’t only Luton throwing 47 times, but the lack of a steady diet of Nall. He only had one sequence of multiple runs, followed by Pierce who also only had one sequence of multiple runs. When Tyner was in, he was pass protection blocking and didn’t do that very well. Many things could be fixed as long as we don’t have an OC doing his best Langsdorf impression. I would rather see Nall run for at least 2 first downs each drive istead of taking long shots on 1st down. Let Nall set it all up, but don’t use Nall as the decoy from the start of a possession. He is your best player and has been for 2 years.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      When Nall is setting it all up, the D can just key on him and he goes nowhere. 50/50 pass – run is the way to go. It was way too obvious when he was going to get the ball.

      • WFO WFO says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        That wheel route was beautiful.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        The D keying on Nall, as you say, is NOT a reason to abandon 60/40. The run game can be made up of a lot more than “hand it to Nall”.

        Go 60%+ rush, control the clock, give Luton time in practice to develop chemistry with the RB’s and to speed up his handoffs. Use the other backs, particularly AP. Don’t be afraid to go off tackle. And, maybe, throw in a few two back sets.

        • marcodg marcodg says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          Maybe someone can educate me but it seems like the zone-read (or that read-zone?) takes too frickin’ long to develop most of the time. Luton and Nall were just standing there holding on to the football for about 2 seconds. By that time all the defense was running to the gap. Is that the way it’s supposed work?

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          The problem was they were going east/ west and not north / south

  • Beav2000 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Yep, well said.

    Kudos to their D Coordinator for making the right adjustments too……if it was chess match they were two moves ahead……and I do believe the heat and elevation drained us, but in D1 football you can’t make excuses about the elements…..you either overcome or you dont.

  • Beav2000 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    So with Aydon banged up we need Evans more than ever…..any word?

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +6 (from 6 votes)

    “I think Sumner did a pretty decent job,” co-offensive coordinator and offensive line coach T.J. Woods said. “The No. 1 objective for the center is, first, snap the ball. He did that well all game. And then second, get us targeted, which he did that really well all game. I was very pleased with the mental side of the game for Sumner. I was happy with the way he prepared and I think that showed up.”

    Smart dude, more in the story in the GT.
    BTW, I think Sumner deserves some credit for the lack of penalties in this game.

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-houston-takes-over-at-center/article_fa9ff453-2c9a-5128-99e9-7ccf5a6b0df4.html#tncms-source=infinity-scroll-summary-siderail-latest

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      I watched him specify on several plays during the game, he did good. I did see one low snap that Luton caught below his knees (they were showing a blitz right on him) and he did get beat pretty bad on one play (looked like he was expecting help from a guard), but other than that he looked like he’s been playing the position for a while.

  • beavers4life beavers4life says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    This is why you don’t play an FBS school on the rise, in a new stadium, with a senior QB…

    “Up at this level, you can’t miss plays. You can’t miss those throws,” Luton said. “That’s probably the biggest thing (I learned) is just you’re not going to be able to get away with some of the stuff I maybe have been before (in junior college).”

    He can be told this all day long, but until he gets into a game against stiff competition, he will play to the level he was used to in JC. So to Angry’s point, yes, we should have known that Luton wouldn’t be prepared to be reckless and smart with the ball because they were able to “get away with it” at the JC level. In a Pac-12 Power 5 FBS school, you can’t play like you did in JC. You just can’t. You have to use that brain and train yourself in practice to be smart with the ball. Progressions, check down if you need to, but not all the time, ala Sean Mannion/Matt Moore.

    I feel that Luton will be a good QB, but won’t be put in a position to succeed because if a team is blitzing, you run WR screens, HB screens, and quick slants and roll outs to get the ball out quickly if you pass. He’ll feel rushed if you try to go deep when the other team is blitzing.

    • Doozeldorf says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      I guess there are different points of view on this. If they play a patsy for the first game wouldn’t Luton think he CAN get away with the same shit he did in JC? But by playing a good team right off the bat his learning curve is greatly accelerated. Sometimes getting your ass beat is the best teaching lesson and motivator.

      • helmsley says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        The fact that Luton actually thought, assumed he could get away with it beggars belief. How long has he been at OSU and/or watched Pac-12 film? Or even a TV game?

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      “He won’t be put in a position to succeed because…”……………because McGiven will not call the plays you describe, and will not use practice time to improve Luton’s ability to utilize his RB’s. I’d love to be proven wrong, soon.

      • beavers4life beavers4life says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

        I was going to insert this, ‘I’d rather of had Langsdorf or Riley be calling the plays last saturday…at least then we’d have a screen called more.’ But I opted not to insult McGiven any further.

      • dwill03 dwill03 says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        I also have 0 faith in McGiven and have not liked him as a play caller since day 1.

        Really wish Sir Diet Coke were still at the helm….

    • NotThatGuy says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Luton should progress significantly as the season progresses. QB’s decision making while going through the route progression is significantly influenced by their experience. i.e. A certain minimal separation is required to determine if the quarterback makes a throw or continues through the progression. I’m JC Luton may have been able to get away with x separation but in big 5 D1 he may need x+y separation in order to increase the chances of completion

      • NotThatGuy says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        *In

      • NotThatGuy says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Maybe it is more indicative of our DB’s capabilities (as their closing speed may have been poor) versus Luton’s decision making. Certainly not claiming that is the case, it may be validated as the season unfolds. I am most disappointed with the DB play as I felt we had solid youth that could fill in which did not pan out.

        • calibeav says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

          I wouldn’t be so quick to think time will heal the Luton decision making woes. Like I’ve said a few times I saw him live down here last season in a few games and he made some dumb throws then too. Two back to back crucial picks in their playoff game. It’s more likely just who he is. Brilliant throws mixed with maddening ones..rinse repeat.

          Can a QB mature beyond that? Absolutely… but Luton has openly embraced the gun slinger mantra so the likelihood of him maturing into a guy that minimizes mistakes is diminished. Alcoholics drink gun slingers sling there’s no difference.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

            Bingo.

            And when he makes a brilliant throw it will wow people so much that they give him a ton of leeway with INTs. It’s the Brett Farve model, only this guy isn’t as good as Brett. He’s more like D.A. Luton will likely have a good game this week to take the heat off. With Seth, every hurdle was validation that he was the best choice. All of this is so easy to spot. Not sure why fans don’t see it. I’ll give him the customary 6 games, though, and reassess.

            GA needs someone on this staff who understands quarterbacking. He’s trying to will McGiven into that role. Ain’t happenin’.

          • calibeav says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Yea that’s what I’m afraid of. Luton is probably young enough in his QB arch to learn how to play the right way. I just don’t know if we have the right guy on our entire staff to get him there. Chuckie Keaton maybe? Not too familiar with him other than as being a dual threat guy.

          • Notthatguy says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Perhaps, all I’m suggesting is that there may be reason for optimism. I suspect that he may be DA v2 but I think comparisons are over rated. Luton will certainly be a different iteration than we have seen in previous QB’s. Remember the improvement Moore made from year 1 to year two. Luton doesn’t have a season to improve but improvement is relatively possible. I propose that a larger concern should be the play of our LB’s and secondary. They were clueless on Saturday and will sink the season, regardless of QB play, if not dramatically improved. If all we are missing is a QB then I could remain optimistic, but it appears there are numerous deficiencies on the defensive side of the ball that should have been mitigated in Anderson’s 3rd year.

          • calibeav says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Luton has a lot of upside. He didn’t have to show it too much Saturday because our pass blocking was really good. But he is great at extended plays , keeping his eyes down field and finding the open man for big plays. He might be most accurate in those situations. That will be a huge weapon in Pac play. IF he can learn to not make stupid ass throws he WILL be good. That will always be his kryptonite along with some spotty accuracy at times.

            I honestly think there was a personal reason for the LB play letdown. I’m guessing they are a tight nit group and Bright being from the Houston area knowing the impending doom potentially on the way for his family probably gave the fellas too much raw perspective. The game really doesn’t mean much in the larger scheme of life. Bright was hardly recognizable and made 0 plays the whole game. That coupled with the decision to fly on Friday probably had a larger impact on the defenses energy than we will ever know.

            Defense much more so than offense is an emotion led thing. Energy and emotion is contagious and we had none of either. A side from being a good LB Bright seems like the emotional leader on D so without him fully engaged I think that played a bigger role than we will every truly know.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

            Yeah, all he has to do in order to be good is not make the dumb “gunslinger” throws, but I saw them in the spring game, fall scrimmage when Arnold was picking him off, and now in game 1. Three is a pattern, and I see no evidence of this elusive correcting of the problem.

            Add that he did this at the JC level, too. I think he might be stupid or just machismo about his arm. One or the other, not sure yet, but the end result is the same so not sure it matters.

            Katz thought he was Dirk Diggler with that arm. This is a similar problem.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            Luton was also loose & risky with his throws at the scrimmage up here. I chalked it up to just being casual in practice, but it seems like it’s just how he is as a QB. It’ll need to be fixed quickly or it’s going to be a long ass season.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

            Maybe this is the reason no good programs offered him.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

            I’d like to think our staff is better at recognizing QB talent than every other staff in the country.

          • angry angry says:
            VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

            That’s such a pleasant, hopeful thought compared to reality!

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

    OT: Remmers named starter for the ViQueens at RT. Have to hand it to the guy. He has carved out a nice NFL career.

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      I think Remmers dad must have signed a deal with the devil.

      Mike keeps on getting torched in big games but continues to pickup NFL gigs. Vic is probably the most hated real estate developer in Portland, but is still able to close, teardown, cram density, rinse and repeat.

      Very successful family.

  • helmsley says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Didn’t realize McGiven coached at Montana State. This is from a 2012 piece.

    McGiven caught Ash’s eye by fusing the ability to craft an offense built around the talent available and to create plans for each game to attack the defense it faces. “He’s very innovative and creative as a game plan designer,” Ash said, “but I don’t expect dramatic differences in our offense. It’s not broken. He can tool his offense to the personnel that we have, based on what he’s done at different stops. He’s not tied to a certain offensive scheme. He’ll evaluate our personnel and do what he can with what we have.”

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +8 (from 10 votes)

      Can we have Baldwin back as OC?

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

      If that’s the case, then he’s very slow at it and starts over every season rather than carrying over what worked the previous season. Run heavy in Civil War, pass happy to start the season…cause ya, that makes sense when you’re RB position is the most experienced/deepest position on the offense; along with a new starting QB. Go to what works.

      You want an offense to have a fire in their belly, then you need to start off running the ball and figure out which player(s) are helping create holes for the RB’s and then adjust the line as needed to run the ball to set up the passing game.

      You can’t start running the ball, then pass 70-30 the rest of the way…that is the opposite of why you ran the ball in the first place. You can’t run the ball and go, oh we’re getting stuffed at the line, so let’s start passing. Oh, we’re over throwing the WR’s and making poor throws, let’s run the ball some more. 2-3 no gain run plays, well, at least throwing the ball looks prettier and gives our QB more experience.

      I honestly feel this last paragraph is exactly what went on in McGivin’s head because it’s narrow minded and in the now vs 2-3 moves ahead. You have to plan 2 sets of plays:

      Run a play; if that is successful, run x play, if not successful run y play. You have to have plays that compliment and build upon themselves based upon what the defense is giving you.

      • WFO WFO says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        I’d have to guess that losing 3 starters on the offensive line kinda scraps last year’s play book.

        • beavers4life beavers4life says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          What ever happened to, ‘next man up’? Yes, the offensive line is unproven, yes, there are 3 starters, but they aren’t walk-ons!

          • WFO WFO says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            Well the line sucked something fierce last year until Harlow came back. Most of these guys were riding the pine last year.

          • WFO WFO says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            You’re right, all players are the same so it’s next man up.

            Brandin Cooks is gone? Next man up.

            Steven Jackson is gone? Next man up.

            Steven Paea is gone? Next man up

            Isaac Seumalo is gone? Next man up.

            As long as they’re not a walk on there won’t be any drop off, right?

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +3 (from 5 votes)

          CSU also lost three starting OL, didn’t cause them to scrap their playbook.
          Sure, they did return their QB and Center, still, OSU was outcoached.

  • calibeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

    LOL… Isn’t this literally the job description / requirement for any OC?

    McGiven caught Ash’s eye by fusing the ability to craft an offense built around the talent available and to create plans for each game to attack the defense it faces.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Elu Aydon was at practice today, in a “no contact” vest and leg brace.

  • Ryan says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    OT: 247sports.com commit prediction guys all have Isaah Crocker going to Nebraska as of today. He must have watched us suck it up on Saturday.

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      Signing day is like 6 months away, dude.

      • Ryan says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        Yes, I know. This year feels like a very critical year for GA and the Beavs to win and gain more traction with some of the big time recurits who are interested in us.

        • angry angry says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

          Well Nebraska is very likely going to shit the bed this year, and we should improve (at least over the next few games I think we’ll look better). Way to early to care about a recruit leaning or even signing.

      • Doozeldorf says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Early signing is 3 months away, but still lots of time.

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      He’s visiting Nebraska this weekend per the local radio honks I listen to. They’re worse out here than the 1080 the fan crews when it comes to local radio. It’s Husker talk 24/7 out here. They don’t really talk NFL, MLB, Boxing, MMA, etc. I didn’t tend to care to listen to all 3-4 hours of the broadcasts out in Oregon, but now that I get Husker talk 24/7, I tend to stream the Oregon Local guys’ podcasts more.

  • AKBeaver AKBeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

    Per the rivals practice repot, the team is going all orange Saturday

    https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/oregon-state-practice-report-beaver-defense-improving-fundamentals

  • bleedorange says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

    Hungalu said the d came in on a Sunday (their off day) and watched three hours of film. Its nice to hear. Hopefully it will translate to some better play.

    • beavers4life beavers4life says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      If nothing else, that just means they’re more focused on becoming assignment sound like they said.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Rodent Bowl preview tonight on BTN. Playing Buffalo, coached by Lance Leipold, of UW Whitewater fame. I remember several people on this site had a hard on for him as a coach.
    I sure I will get some crap in the tailgating lot about the CSU game. I had been telling folks that da Beavs would be a good team this year. Gary hung me out to dry. They better kick the crap out of PSU. #rowthebeaver.

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    OT Posted without comment…

    OSU announces series of meetings to evaluate building names …

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/osu-announces-series-of-meetings-to-evaluate-building-names/article_960f01ca-563f-5a64-81c3-3b2ef9b0892a.html

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

      Never knew Avery Lodge was short for Slavery Lodge.

    • Ryan says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

      Social justice warriors in action. When is enough enough. I know in Portland they want to rename some schools because the family who donated land to Portland has the last name of Lynch. They are affraid kids maybe upset by seeing that name. I guess Benton County will no longer exist in a few short years. Goodbye Gill too…

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Maybe the school will now have a built in excuse to sell the naming rights for Gill to some big league donor so they can finally uodate the building. Panda Express Center? NVidia Garden? A-dec Arena?

        • Corliss says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +5 (from 9 votes)

          Nike Slave labor Memorial Building?

          How does Whoregon justify naming Knight arena after family that uses near slave labor???

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: -1 (from 5 votes)

            Because now it’s just near slave labor. They put up nets. Now less of them are getting lost on the way to their bunks and falling off the roofs.

            It used to be full-on slave labor. Nikegon’s owner changed the process he helped initiate to be slightly better than it was in the beginning.

          • McGivInt says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            I’d take Amazon Arena if they rebuild it with built in Alexa.

        • Issaquahbeav says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

          OSU basketball is not big league…

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

            So?

            No college basketball team is big league.

            What’s your point?

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +3 (from 13 votes)

        When is enough enough?

        Who can blame Gill for not recruiting any non-pink players in a sundown state? It doesn’t matter if he was a racist or if he was right. Where would he feed and house a dark person in the Oregon of those days?

        Benton… they’re wrong. He was not a white supremacist. He was a slave owner who legislated in favor of the institution until he had an awakening. Then he opposed it and went so far as to openly fight legislation in favor of it… to the point where another Senator almost shot him on the Senate floor. It cost him a cushy job in his old age. Go tell that story, then tell me how you want to change the name.

        As for Avery and Arnold, one founded the town, and another was instrumental in the future existence of the school. Sorry. It is what it is. Use their histories as reminders to what once was established ideology. Removing their names is one way to just make the issue go away. But doesn’t that disrespect the people who lived and died in the interim and changed what was established ideology? I look at them as more of a yin yang situation.
        http://sos.oregon.gov/archives/exhibits/constitution/Pages/before-negro.aspx

        Are we going to scrub Linus Pauling from OSU history? I think keeping some of these names and amending their histories so they are first correct then known would provide a better opportunity for the future.

        Yeah… this park was named after a dick. This is what made him a dick. We’re better than that now.

        Confederate monuments erected after the Civil War and whose construction coincided with large white supremacist uprisings?

        Fuck those losers.

        The battle flag for a group of seditious losers means something about Antebellum heritage? Yeah… that argument can kiss my lily white tush. Get the hell out of here with that stupidity. It stands for a group of seditious losers in armed rebellion, nothing more. That’s like trying to revise the meaning of the Nazi Hakenkreuz to be something aligned with the Buddhist Swastika.

        I’m going to go up to the San Juans and buy Trump Island. Then I’m going to rename it… probably something like Lynch Island.

        That’ll show them!

      • Ughh says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        I literally know black people with the last name Lynch. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard in a while.

        • alex says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          Like Marshawn?

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            They should ban him until he changes his name… or until after week two.

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

            As long as he doesn’t sit during the national anthem, oh, wait…

          • Jack Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

            There are so many violations of the flag code in daily life. Why the people who commit those violations most are the most vocal about his violation doesn’t make any sense.

      • Doozeldorf says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

        We better ban History in schools because all that shit that really happened is offensive. We should just pretend nothing bad has ever happened in the world so we don’t have try to get over it.

  • Ughh says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +7 (from 15 votes)

    Thanks for bringing up something totally unrelated just so you can continue to push the far left agenda, Jack.
    Downvoted.

    • Jack Jack says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Hey orangejulius!

      I am he as you are he as you are me, and we are all together

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)

      Presenting history in an factual and accurate manner is now far left? If you say so. I guess you’re unintentionally saying something about the right.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

        *a

        • Jack Jack says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          Like they care.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: -2 (from 4 votes)

            A lot of white people shitting their pants lately as our white-centric history slowly gets dismantled.

          • Jack says:
            VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
            Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

            Yeah…

            In a country borne of freedom, the mostest nicest and proper people won’t let anyone different from them live near them…

            … because they think they’re being replaced?

            What does that even mean? Are they afraid of some metaphysical transference like the Shaggy DA? It’s the kind of stupid I’ve never had enough respect to even conflate with politics. It speaks directly to education, which has to do with base knowledge, which is non-existent when you white-wash history.

            And then they’re surprised as hell when the youngsters get on this interwebs thingy and find out they’ve been badly lied to for their whole existence?

            It’s so extremely dumb. What did they think would happen?

  • Corliss says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    I am not a huge gambler, but I could almost guarantee UW beats rutgers by more than 27.5.

    How do I bet on this????

  • orangejulius orangejulius says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    So, speaking of PSU, saw a headline from the ‘groanian on twiiter feed that read “Bruce Barnum: I need QB Jake Luton and the OSU Beavers to turn the ball over to me” clicked through (I know, I know-I had ad blocking on) to a virtual ad for clownzano podcast, yeah, I know, I’m a dumbbell.

    In case you were wondering what gems dolphin-boy posted, here ya go…

    Apparently pants are the hottest topic for college coaches. PSU wants to stop the run. CSU did everything right. And the obligatory funny underpants mafia jab.

    *********************************************
    On PSU’s 20-6 loss to BYU in opener:

    “We had two chance to make the LDS church panic, but didn’t.”

    On people picking Oregon State to win the game:

    “I’m used to it. It’s easy to punch the underdog. You’ve gotta play the game. Everybody’s got to line up, put their pants on the same…”

    On what he saw on film in the OSU opener vs. Colorado State:

    “Colorado State seemed unconscious. They were doing everything right.”

    On the defensive game plan vs. Oregon State:

    “Our M.O. is to stop the run. You will see that from us. I think I have the secondary to do it. last year we didn’t.”
    ********************************************

  • beavers4life beavers4life says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    Minnesota scares me…for us passing waaay too much again instead of running the ball.

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Whomever is the League Manger in the angrybeavs fantasy league, can you please renew the league and/or name someone a new LM?

  • McGivInt says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -1 (from 5 votes)

    So Indiana can lead #2 Ohio State 14-13 halfway thru 3rd quarter but if they were like Oregon State they would be lose to Wichita St by 31. Andersen has a TON to prove. Getting blown out by the MWC while a seemingly similar program in Indiana can be leading #2 shows Andersen is not close to developing a team with killer instinct ready to seize opportunities and make a name fot itself besides a national weakling.

    Better blow out PSU by 30+ points GA. Need to get used to it before an OSU career pivotal game versus Minnesota.

    • Jack Jack says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: -7 (from 7 votes)

      So Indiana can lead #2 Ohio State 14-13 halfway thru 3rd quarter but if they were like Oregon State they would be lose to Wichita St by 31. Andersen has a TON to prove.

      Um

      what

      the

      fuck

      ?

      Doesn’t the filter for comments disallow A+B=C, therefore, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!

    • Doozeldorf says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      We were leading CSU too. Might want to check the final on the Ohio State game.

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        We weren’t leading.

        We were cheated out of tying at the half. And before that we decided not to break their backs.

        Who the hell cares about tOSU scores? I’m not going to watch them play this year.

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: -3 (from 3 votes)

        Still don’t care about the tOSU game.

        • Jack Jack says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: -1 (from 1 vote)

          … or the Wichita St. game… which you must now tell us about since your logic makes it matter.

        • Jack Jack says:
          VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: -3 (from 3 votes)

          I did see a headline which said that tOSU “survives” their opener.

          So I’m guessing Indiana lost a heartbreaker, and that’s why you’re pushing them as the example you want us to be?

          Your logic is that clear. I’m still trying to figure out what Kansas has to do with it.

          I did watch a little bit of Utah beating up on the aggressive loogies. But that’s because I was waiting on everyone to finish their bathroom calls.

  • ohiobeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

    My predictions for the year are now going to live in realm of reverse psychology. I predict the Beavs will indeed fail to put together 4 disciplined quarters of football and lose in a disastrous bounce-back game. PSU puts a humbling loss on GA and his cred is even more damaged. Clune’s defense can’t defend a Russell Wilson impersonator/true freshman any better than Banker could.

    Beavs lose 35-17 and continue the trajectory back to the Pac 12 basement. My revised record prediction is a miserable 2-10, not even sure who they can beat at this point.

    • Jack Jack says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)

      If we lose to PSU, GA is gone.

      In fact, I really dislike the Mormon cult because of personal experience. But what PSU’s coach (I really hope his name is Bruce) said publicly about them is just unprofessional.

      I have to question an institution that allows that behavior.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Lindsay has some advice for OSU. Run the damn ball!!

    https://twitter.com/CSNNW/status/903482704154443778

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

      Good lord, is she pregnant? If she gains anymore weight she might collapse in on herself and form a black hole.

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Really?

      • Jack Jack says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: -2 (from 2 votes)

        I’m willing to explore this theory of…

        Fuck you BB.

        Don’t say you didn’t think it was coming.

        Ignorantly ignorant people populate peopolstically places where p rhymes with t and you’re much cooler if you’re maybe as old as I am… wait….

      • marcodg marcodg says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        I’ve learned that the only time to ask a woman when the baby is due is when you see the baby actually emerge. I remember at about 20 years ago at a previous job we were interviewing this guy and he asked one of the interviewers (my boss) when the baby was due. You guessed it. She wasn’t pregnant.

    • Jack Jack says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      dammit!

    • orangejulius orangejulius says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile

  • scotty says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

    Good thing about the loss last week is that PSU sure got more interesting. I’m kind of looking forward to it now. Wondering if we can beat an FCS team, I’m having flashbacks to Riley!

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

      If the Beavs win, every fan’s popcorn order will be upgraded to “endless popcorn”
      Hip Hip!

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

        For the rest of the season or just til the stadium empties? It’s seem if the game ends they should just give it away always. Unless they are keeping it for the next game, in that case I’m not buying anymore popcorn at an OSU event.

  • Jack Jack says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    State your equity.

    Subtract zero.

    You are left with your equity.

  • Corliss says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Psu will be without starting center per bruce barnum

  • ObjCritic says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    So, Utah State at Wisconsin this evening….who do you think Andersen’s got in this game? Probably a watch party at Andersen’s tonight with Chuckie Keaton and the Utah Coaches Club….

  • ObjCritic says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -2 (from 2 votes)

    How about some Friday fun…..let’s compare Andersen to former OSU coaches….guess who?

    Personal Coaching Background Emphasis – Offense/Defense

    Offensive approach – complex pro scheme, passing emphasis/simple spread, passing emphasis

    Philosophy Regarding Assistant Coaches – Friends, organ donors/Are they from Utah?

    False Narrative – turns over rocks, finds diamonds in the rough/tough guy

    Hatting Preference – Baseball cap/Visor

    Favorite saying – Neat Deal/Big boy pants

    Gum – Yes. More please, I wore this piece out, which is kind of a neat deal/Is it from Utah?!?

    Posture – cold, huddled old man/Straight, upright. Tough guy, but closet yoga practitioner.

    Career winning percentage – 54.2/50.5 (since Utah State)

    Add your own as OSU approaches PSU…Erickson/Andersen? Pettibonehead/Andersen?

  • ObjCritic says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 4 votes)

    OT – SF Chronicle prediction on SF’s final roster:

    “WIDE RECEIVERS (6)

    Pierre Garcon; Marquise Goodwin; Aldrick Robinson; Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor, Victor Bolden

    Cut: Aaron Burbridge; DeAndre Carter; Kendrick Bourne; DeAndre Smelter; Tim Patrick; Louis Murphy

    I was tempted to bypass the Bolden Bandwagon since the two-TD return standout hasn’t done much as a WR (one preseason catch and just-OK in training camp) and is similar in skill to Taylor and Kerley. However, Shanahan covets speed and the undrafted rookie can fly and, presumably, develop as wideout.”

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/49ers-53-man-roster-projection-12167212.php

    • Bill says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Bolden makes the team initially. Hard to keep a guy off after producing 2 td returns. But it’ll be tough for him to stay on the roster if he doesn’t add something as a WR.

  • marcodg marcodg says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    OT. Bolden with a punt return for a touchdown.
    https://twitter.com/NFL/status/903453213537349633

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Machado and Sprague making excuses for Luton in the first few minutes:
    https://soundcloud.com/dam-podcast/beavs-best-bounce-back

    Falling for the “big arm” thing. Dirk Diggler 2.0. Excuse on the WR falling down. Never mention that WR was double covered (and the ball was still over thrown) and therefore a terrible throw either way.

    • ObjCritic says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      “Dirk Diggler 2.0”: up next, cocaine abuse, sexual dysfunction, insecurity…..in the football sense….

    • scotty says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      We should only recruit noodle arm QBs so coaches won’t be tempted to chuck it around 50 times each game

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    I didn’t realize PSU played and hung with BYU at Provo:
    http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400945031

    Not sure what to make of that.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      A buddy of mine follows PSU really closely. Says the team is starting several true freshman this year in key positions. This wasn’t expected to be one of PSUs better teams in recent years by those around the team…..so the fact that they hung with BYU doesn’t say much for Kalani Sitaki and his team.

      I haven’t looked at the numbers, but have heard(on dam podcast maybe?) that BYU statistically put up much better numbers than PSU bit just couldn’t out points on the board.

      • angry angry says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        Cool, hopefully BYU is just bad. Never was impressed with Sitaki.

      • Cake says:
        VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        >BYU statistically put up much better numbers than PSU bit just couldn’t out points on the board.

        Yeah, PSU had 220 yards, BYU had ~360. PSU got about 90 yards on one drive where they converted two 4th downs, only one other drive over 20 yards or something.

        It was a slow paced game too, so it’s not shocking it was so low scoring.

        I think we’ll roll them up this weekend.

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +3 (from 3 votes)

    Podcasts does bring up the point I’ve/we’ve made: GA has started 6 QBs now over 3 years, and each has a different style. So what is our offensive philosophy?

    I also remember writing a post early in the GA era writing that if he failed it would be because he never gets a QB.

    • Kevint McGivint says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      I’d share our offensive philosophy with you, but I seem to have misplaced my Magic 8-Ball today. Ask again later.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

      I think some of us thought it was bizarre how Seth was slotted from the get go (even with unimpressive HS stats) even though there were some ok Riley QB’s still around. I’m starting to think GA hit beginner’s luck with Keaton, but in reality he doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing with QB’s nor does anyone on his staff. Ironically, Luton is a prototypical Riley QB if I ever saw one!

  • ohiobeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    In the can’t let it go category, Buffs Lindsay with a 46 yd td run on first drive against CSU

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Aren’t the Buffs in year 5 or so of their rebuild? A pac 12 team that deep should beat CSU.
      CSU is pretty good, though, I think. They looked sound.

      CO seems to own CSU, too. A lot like the Beav/Duck rivalry. Ever time I seee a CO/CSU game CO wins.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

        I’m starting to think the Beavs are fucked this year. Granted, it’s a little early, but the Buffs look like a P-12 team should against CSU. If I don’t see domination against the Viks tomorrow, I put the win total at 2 or 3 max.

  • Beav in DE says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Washington trailing Rutgers 7-3 late in the first half. Defense has looked good, but they haven’t been able to put up any points.

  • OSUman says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Colorado State QB Stevens is missing the throws he was making last week against the beavs. A little bit of home cooking last week

  • scotty says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Utah State up 10-0 at Wisconsin. Hire Matt Wells? :p

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Seems like plenty of examples this year, just like every year, where teams come out flat in Game 1. Would have beem smarter to open the season against PSU at home as originally scheduled, just to get accustomed to playing a team that is not your practice squad.

    Plus, as somebody mentioned, we would have beem facing CSU AFTER they got pummeled by Alabama. That reschedule was idiotic. I sure hope it came with a nice payday, but you know it didnt.

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Yes, our AD is a moron. And if GA signed off on that he’s a moron, too.

      • ohiobeav says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

        Tumwater Dave on Joe Beaver show explained from an article on nonconferencepayouts that the Beavs gained nothing financially from the change of schedule. Epic AD fail for the Beavs, doing favors for others will keep OSU as a patsy. This should have been a costly exchange for CSU since they asked to do it. Beavs get an early week of practice, a meaningless bye before a sure loss, and another embarrasing loss on national tv.

    • ObjCritic says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      All for an extra bye…

  • Gobeavers92 says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

    The Beaver D is fine. That mighty CSU juggernaut has put up a 3 spot in the first half against the buffs. It’s all Luton’s fault nothing to see here.

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

      As posted on Twitter, transitive property applies to math but not football.
      We’ll know if the D is fine vs PSU and MN.

      Also, the CSU game isn’t over yet.

      • Gobeavers92 says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 2 votes)

        Using the same logic if Luton goes for 400 and 4 TD vs PSU we know our QB situation is aces.

        • angry angry says:
          VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
          Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

          Not really. I meant if we give up a ton of yards to PSU we know it’s legit bad D.

  • McGivInt says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 4 votes)

    No surprise that Colorado is handling CSU with ease. All this ‘CSU is a very good team’ talk was a bunch of BS and more tired excuses for poor ole OSU.

    Making Andersen look that much more unprepared and pathetic. I agree with Jack. If GA somehow lost to PSU it would be the beginning of his end here at Oregon State. He best win by 30 and figure out how to beat the youngster Fleck who he should have 15+ years of experience over. Sure hasn’t meant much for the Beavs up to this point. Expected a much better product than what he has delivered. His builder talk is looking like lip service only. Show us some red blooded meat.

    • ObjCritic says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      He’s likely the 2nd highest paid state employee (behind Taggert?) and he needs to start earning it…

  • marcodg marcodg says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

    Colorado getting some home-cookin’ from the refs.

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Wow, another awful personal foul call. CSU getting screwed. Good. They got away with a lot of calls last week.

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Not sure what to deduct from this CSU game. They could easily be right in it where it not for bad calls. IMO should be 17-10 game. So they’re somewhere on the same level as CO.

    Weird thing about football is things change week to week. Beavs could get destroyed by CSU and then beat USC (e.g. Riley 2006 and 2008). It’s a week to week thing and depends a lot on mentality.

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    CSU’s Stevens looks so bad tonight. CO has nothing to do with it, either. He’s just missing open guys.

  • Kevin Clown says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

    Meanwhile Matt Wells has Utah State tied 10-10 with Wisconsin on the road in Madison. Wells looks like he would have been the smarter hire. Could have been positioned for a decade of success as he settled into his very best years. Feels like GA already peaked at USU and his couple years at Wisconsin and a slow plateau of subperformance may be his norm since being routed 59-0 in the B1G Championship game against Ohio State. That should have been a gigantic red flag.

    • Beav in DE says:
      VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      This statement is absurd. USU has gotten worse every year since Wells took over and succeeded with GA’s players. Coaches should be judged by year 3+ and Wells has failed the test.

      • BeaverJuiced says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: +4 (from 4 votes)

        Any way you slice it GA still has miles to prove to Oregon Syate fans sold ‘We will fight for Championships’ in his introduction presser. Most were expecting a team with a ton more edge and solid fundamentals.

        For the record I wanted Matt Rhule who is now at Baylor. GA needs to turn this ship around and start doing it this year.

  • Beav in DE says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    I’m not impressed with Colorado’s offense either. I’d be surprised if they surpass our point total against CSU. That’s looking more like a favorable matchup for us.

    I’m skeptical, but not ready to rule out a bowl for this season. Minnesota will be the true test.

  • ColdBeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +4 (from 8 votes)

    Good thing CSU is an incredible offense (I remember being told on here they were a top 15 offense in the nation) or I would be down on our defense after last week..

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

      Or maybe CO is good.

      You’re not going to know shit until like six weeks in.

      • scotty says:
        VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

        An incredible offense does not get held to 3 points. Colorado didn’t become Bama.

  • BeaverJuiced says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Bryan Harsin would have been a steady choice. Will also be interesting to see how Beau Baldwin does at Cal as OC. Now time like the present for GA. First person to slip on Big Boy pants needs to be him. It starts with a thorough domination of PSU & then showing the nation he can win a spotlight game vs Fleck and Minnesota.

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    CSU tired from all the TD dances last week?

  • angry angry says:
    VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Amazing how quickly people are turning on GA. If we win the next two and sit 2-1 will you feel the same?
    I’d be surprised if we don’t win the two home games.

    I’m seeing why WI fans were happy to see him go (has clear flaws in player analysis), but still think he’s better than Riley and could turn this around.

    Interesting crossroads coming up.

  • ColdBeav says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Part of this could be that it’s not a prime time job.. But I’m curious why GA hasn’t brought in an OC with a pedigree of some kind.. Seems like we trot out these relatively young/inexperienced OC’s on offense every year.. I could be wrong.. But some experience and stability on that side of the ball might help.. He probably has tried to land an OC that fits that description, just hasn’t worked out..

    Maybe someone has more info on this??

    • angry angry says:
      VN:F [1.9.22_1171]
      Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

      Well he had Baldwin at OC, who was putting up like 50 points a game at his prior gig and had a ton of experience, and basically fired him because he (GA) decided to play Seth Collins, a WR, at QB.

      There is no continuity anywhere because GA can’t make up his mind on anything. 6 QBs, three OCs, etc. It’s a reckless approach.

  • StarcraftSquall says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 3 votes)

    No Phil Steele report to file on this week’s matchup: he doesn’t bother with FCS games, and, let’s face it, anything less than a blowout this weekend is a major disappointment. I’m putting the minimum “acceptable” margin of victory at 32 points.

  • Timberrrrrrrr says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: -2 (from 8 votes)

    I would like to see OSU move to the Mountain West for football.

  • VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Beavs will pull the big upset today.

    PSU, picked to finish 9th in 13 team Big Sky, comes in over confident and overlooking the Beavs while looking forward to their league opener against UC Davis.

  • BeaverJuiced says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: +1 (from 1 vote)

    Would like to see a 44-13 or 47-16 type performance today. Beavs should be able to put 40+ points on a Big Sky team. 40 pts against Big Sky only equals about 21-23 pts vs Pac-12 competition. Unfortunately, I predict something more like 35-17 which isn’t good enough to be ready for Minnesota and the start of Pac-12 play.

  • Jim says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Figure PSU will put up some points. God, the Beavs defense looks even more horrific after CSU layed an egg against CU, who lost most of their defense, coordinator, and secondary coach.

    Still hope OSU can win by a couple of touchdowns.

  • Spiny Norman Spiny Norman says:
    VA:F [1.9.22_1171]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

    Is the OSU radio pregame show available on-line? KEX (Portland) carries it on the air but the internet stream is different.

Write a Comment

  • Recruiting Updates

  • Categories

  • Archives