Have at it, folks.
Topics on my mind:
-Weighing the risk of a Smith/Baldwin who are high risk with unknown reward vs a boring retread.
-Our recruiting sucks (for good reason). We’re landing guys nobody else wants. Why is Hall even out there recruiting? It’s just going to make us look bad if and when the new coach pulls some of these bad offers. We’re landing some of the lowest hanging fruit out there. I’d almost we rather shut down recruiting and let the new coach handle it.
23 minute mark: https://www.facebook.com/virginiafootball/videos/1078421778961185/
High risk doesn’t sound too attractive to me when coupled with unknown reward.
I’m in the boring retread camp this time around.
If the high risk young guy could guarantee recruiting success, I’d lean that way, but that’s a pipe dream at this point.
Build some mediocre stability in the program for a few years with a retread and then give youth a shot. Mediocre stability is still a huge upgrade over what we have now
I don’t know. A staff with Keith Heyward, Cory Hall, Dennis Erickson could probably crush it on the recruiting trail. And I think all 3 would be willing to be on a Jonathan Smith staff.
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Article/Oregon-State-Coaching-Search-What-We-Know-110791520
Sources have also told BeaverBlitz that former Oregon State head coach Dennis Erickson, has been campaigning hard for the job and would be willing to come on board with a ‘coach in waiting’ type scenario.
Erickson is like 100, but this wouldn’t be a bad situation if he knows going in he’s just rebuilding it to stability to hand it off.
The problem with this is that you can’t announce a “coach in waiting” or that guy is limited as a recruiter. It also just makes far more sense to simply give Smith the job and make Erickson the AHC.
Except that doesn’t make any sense, let alone far more, in the context you want it to make sense. Once you hire a head coach, he’s the boss. What he says goes. An AHC can only say, “Well, I disagree. But it’s your team.”
And then things blow up in people’s faces, and the slope gets slippery.
Besides, DE’s hat-in-hand routine needs to include a contingency should he fail. He’s there to provide cover for Niner as the head man. If it goes south, he can take the blame and forgo any serious buy-out… like agreeing to $100k per over a decade, since it’s his last stop.
Niner doesn’t have that luxury as a head man in your situation. If it goes poorly, his career is shot. He would collect his buy-out.
But who would an attractive coach in waiting be? Is JS going to leave UW just to be OC somewhere else?
That said, DE knows how to build a strong program and he has the credibility of having won at OSU before. His time as OC at Utah was a disaster, though. Is he just totally past it?
The rumor is that yes Smith would come to OSU as coach in waiting.
How was his time at Utah a disaster? He recruited their current starting QB and a couple other top guys from Miami.
He was the OC and their offense was bad.
He was co-OC in 2013, RB’s coach in 2014/15.
Not sure he was ever calling plays.
That said, I wouldn’t want him calling plays anyway.
Am I understanding this article correctly? They are saying BM has the job, right? Is that just bullshit for clicks or something credible?
Quote: “They are saying BM has the job, right?”
BeaverMobile(Richard Taylor) is rising from the grave and leading the Beavs to the Promised Land?
Funny, I posted this in the last thread and it only got one comment. He sent a letter to Barnes about 3 weeks ago. Apparently he has Smith on board as the OC, but I didn’t hear who his DC was.
Barnes quote is interesting. Watch him hire Matt Wells…
He stole that quote.
I like how blitz has a source saying Mendenhall has a verbal agreement, yet Mendenhall shoots down those rumors when he could have easily dodged the question.
I think Barnes quote is more closely related to the Gary Andersen rehab rumors personally, but It’s also fitting when related to the coaching search.
Either way, if he has time to tweet out cryptic Edgar Allen Poe quotes to Oregon State fans, it must mean he’s close to wrapping up this hiring any day now. Someone who isn’t confident they have the job done wouldn’t bother.
It’s not a cryptic Poe quote. It’s possibly the closest I’ve seen anyone come to getting the actual quote correct. But it’s not cryptic.
Hi.
https://www.truity.com/test/how-agreeable-are-you
High in agreeableness.
Woo hoo?
I honestly did not know agreeableness was a word. I learned something new today.
Hi.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cryptic
wurdz is hard.
The purpose for which he used the quote was ambiguous, considering it could have been related to the rumors being spread around the club level at Reser of GA going to rehab or it could have been related to the coaching search rumors(or both, or neither). Therefore, it was cryptic.
Occam says we are currently searching for a head coach.
Funny dude, Occam.
But let’s talk talk about agreeableness being a word. This is kinda exciting to me. Is it interchangeable with agreeability? Has anyone ever heard of it used in any sentence anywhere?
No retreads! Move forward. I loved Erickson but it’s time for a new identity and neither him nor Riley will get us there.
I see we’re 26 point dogs next Sat. I will be taking these points. Herbert coming back isn’t great news for us, but +3 touchdowns is steep I think, even on the road for this team.
I think we’re going to get our asses handed to us. They were embarrassed by us over this past year. It will be like UW when they laid 70 on Oregon last year. They won’t let up and will want to make a statement, while our team just wants the season to end.
I thought we had a shot until Herbert came back. Looks like a totally different team. Our guys clearly mailed it in last week. Team chemistry and morale seem awful. It’s hard to imagine they come together for one last effort. I wouldn’t touch the line either way.
Coach Hall and his wife are having a baby this week too. Think we see the same level of energy and focus from him this week?
While He’s away from the team much of the week, the Kevin’s will be given carte blanche. I’ll take the over
Gun to my head I’d take the over and/or give Oregon the points. But I’d just avoid it. Ducks looked like trash before Herbert.
Taggart better find another QB. It’s hard to think of another program over the years that considers itself ‘elite”, but can’t or won’t develop quarterbacks other than the starter. This has been going on since the Belloti days, star QB gets injured offense goes to shit.
I thought that under Kelly the UO were quite fortunate in terms of QB health; Masoli, Thomas, and Mariota seemed to play most of their games with infrequent need for back ups. UO has shown this season how bad they can be without their #1 QB.
Same thing happened when Dennis Dixon went down.
“Ooooohhhhh look how great we aaaarrrrrreeee!!!!!!!
*Thump*
“Fuck we suck”
Didn’t their fourth string QB kick our ass in 08?
Everyone’s back up kicks our ass.
I think it was before 08. Chip was still OC – maybe his first year? – and explicitly called attention to the fact that OSU won the CW when UO had to play their “4th string QB.”
After that, when Chip became HC, and every CW was a day on the water as he motor-boated Banker….
Was Mr. Roper the QB then?
His new baby and that he is gearing up for a court trial involving his ex and some custody stuff might have him checked out a bit.
Careful, you’re really going out on a limb here. A second subpoena can be quickly written!
LOL
Can anyone think of a coach in waiting situation that panned out? Muschamp was coach in waiting at UT and that never materialized. I can’t think of any other recent examples.
Jimbo Fisher at Florida state
Thanks.
Any others? Was Chip explicitly called out as coach in waiting?
I think it was kind of assumed after his first year running the offense.
Lots of gloom, rightly so, here. Just for laughs here is what a writer from SoCal has to say about candidates for the now open UCLA job:
“Mike Riley, Nebraska: He won’t be considered an attractive candidate if he is fired soon but Riley was courted by UCLA before and is a Pac-12 institution after two stints at Oregon State. UCLA could do worse.“
“could do worse”……is there a lower bar?
http://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/19/10-candidates-to-replace-jim-mora-at-ucla/
I’m thinking his editor told him he had to come up with 10 names!
The writer should be put in an institution if he actually believes that.
Please stop all the talk of hall being on staff next year. It’s clear his influence on the players only goes so far. He was supposed to be more involved with the defense vs ASU. If that was him being more involved, then it’s obvious he’s not ready to be a coordinator yet.
Who said anything about him being a coordinator?
I think many here thought it might be worthwhile to promote him to a defensive coordinator because he seemed to – at least for his first 3 games – have elevated the play of the team and the coordinators, so to keep him around, promote him. Also that he’d provide continuity in recruiting (i.e. help hold onto the likes of Petras).
The use of “please” is a nice touch, but are you asking people to stop voicing their opinions on this site? Hopefully you’re not concerned that opinions shared on this site are going to influence Barnes’ decision. Especially since we were so rudely ignored in the last HC hire :)
Manute Bol’s kid announced he has chosen Oregon today. Nemec and the rest of the Oregonian our fellating Dana Altman at record pace
Some apparently thinking UO could have #1 ranked recruiting class in football, potentially basketball as ell. That is so odd to me. Taggert doesn’t seem sincere or long for the program and basketball players have such better programs to choose from.
Speaking of fellatio Canzano hoping Taggert doesn’t leave…I’d be fine if he stayed, because I think he’ll do poorly over the longer term. But I haven’t watched a single Duck game all year….
They’re just jacking themselves off, the recruiting rankings don’t mean shit until Alabama/Ohio State/Michigan etc etc sign their classes. I’m sure fortune cookie will have a nice class but his chances of being #1 after the real programs take their pick is slim to none.
Who in the hell would down vote the above comments? Is the serial Quack down voter back???
This is an interesting look at coaching salaries. So many overpaid coaches…reaches and short-sighted decisions by programs to desperate to remain relevant, only setting themselves up for continually high salaries:
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
Are there any indications that OSU talked at all to Brian Harsin or Lance Leipold? Does Harsin have some prohibitive buyout? Some mentioned Mike Norvell of Memphis, seems like he could be courted at Andersen money or slightly less.
Harsin is at his alma mater, probably would be difficult to pull him away. I think it would take too much money to get him to leave boise anyway.
Why would Lance Leipold be of any interest? 12-23 at Buffalo. No ties to this part of the country.
He’s not ready for a P5 head job yet. I’d give him another two years. He’s exceeded expectations this year, and he has the built-in excuse of all his QBs walking wounded. I suspect next year his team will get over the hump. They lost a lot of close games this year. Even with all the issues he’s had at QB and losing a bunch of close games, Buffalo still has the chance to go bowling this year. It’s probably not likely, but it’s possible. They have to go through Solich’s Ohio team to get there.
I think you’re correct about him and coastal ties. I thought I read somewhere when he took the Buffalo job that his wife’s family was from Connecticut, and they wanted to be out there for someone with some health issues or the like.
The Bulls have lost a lot of close games this year. I’m assuming he’s getting more of his own players in the starting line up, he did good work in his first season and they fell back last year. Leading the Bulls to a historic turnaround didn’t do much for Turner Gill, though!
Gill also went 5-7 in his fourth year and had the team regressing. But 5-7 was historically good for that program at the time. So I’m not really sure why Quinn was fired in 2014 after taking the pieces Gill left and putting them back together. I’m guessing he said or did something to Danny White at the time, because 3-4 was not a poor start to the season for that program… especially following an 8-win year.
Regardless, Gill was another who reaped the reward of Kansans being financially incompetent. He turned two years into $10m. Mangino only got $3m because they fired him with cause and negotiated it down. But Weis getting what he got was ridiculous. Beaty getting extended last year and being given a vote of confidence now is a direct result of that past decade of decisions.
Chainsaw poll up on the Twitter acct. So far the Love/Like options lead.
https://twitter.com/BeavRecruiting/status/932702766421590016
My youngest son asked me what that awful sound was on Saturday and what the point of it was since the Beavers can’t stop the run anyway. I didn’t have a good answer.
Proof that most people have no taste, it’s hokey and dumb.
Unfortunately, you just described a large percentage of our fan base.
New name to add to the coaching candidates list. ESPN says Oregon State has reached out to the OC at UCLA, Jedd Fisch.
He is the interim coach at UCLA for the rest of the season.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21491257/ucla-interim-coach-jedd-fisch-addresses-media-following-firing-jim-mora
It makes me wonder if Guerrero thinks he has a great chance of landing Chip? It’s also underwhelming that OSU is “reaching out” to coordinators of under performing P-12 teams.
Fisch sure jumps around a lot. Different job pretty much every year. Does that mean he’s good at what he does, or bad?
Gopher, do you remember him from Minnesota in 2009?
Was OC and QB coach for that season
Yeah his resume reminds me of Noel Mazzone, year or two here, year or two there. Hard to get a read on.
Yes. He was not super impressive. The only thing I really remember was he was going have the QB’s and WR’s throw tennis balls in practice. Our passing game didn’t improve, but tennis team got much bigger.
He must be quite the salesman or con man because he keeps landing pretty good jobs without any special results.
If they hired this guy I might need a script for antidepressants.
He also has a horrible name. I assume that’s pronounced a lot like “fish”? Jedd Fish. Ugh.
I’d shut down AB before writing Jedd Fisch over and over.
Yup. Like fish. A stinking rotten fish.
I have suggestions and extras
No thanks.
On cue Nemec with a story about Ducks having #1 classes in football and basketball…a recent 6’5″ WR commit apparently gives them five “4*+” WR commits. Seems unlikely there’ll be enough footballs to go around….
I called nemec out on twitter being a duck honk and he got all butt hurt and threatened to block me..I subsequently posed the following question to him…..which team are you rooting for in the civil war….ducks or beavers? He refused to answer so I asked him again….no response….he’s a pussy duck fan and not even willing to admit it.
Why are we supposed to care?
Bob Stitt just got the axe at Montana. Give him a P5 OC job.
Isn’t that the Mine guy who never punts?
Yep
Did he get fired for never punting?
He punted in their final game of the season. That shit doesn’t fly at Montana
Childhood friend lives in Missoula. First year there were t shirts that said “Stitt Happens.”
This year, “What is this Stitt?”
He was the Fly Sweep guru, correct?
Failed to make the tourney because their defenses were terrible. Offenses were some of the best in the country. To be fair, he took over a program with long sustained success and trended down. Montana expects to be in the tourney every year.
I’d take him as OC in a heartbeat.
Also interesting reading Montana fans’ take on him. Great offensive mind who retained some bad assistants for too long and didn’t stick to his guns on offense when things weren’t working.
Supposedly well liked and a good recruiter, but his teams didn’t play hard.
Pflugrad left him a bit of a shit sandwich, NCAA sanctions, reduced scholarships, the usual. Still have to play defense.
I believe that the starting QB broke his leg early on in the season and Montana never really got any traction with the 2nd string guy. Watched a game or two briefly on ROOT sports and the starter was always up in a donor booth with his leg stretched out on the wheel chair.
Results of the poll are in:
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/932107354006478848
Looks like the majority lack faith in Barnes. I couldn’t vote on my own poll, but would have been a “no” as well.
This.
https://twitter.com/unverdan/status/932343116006174721
The names that have been thrown out by our fans and the media who covers OSU are names not worthy of paying an executive search agency.
From the FWIW file:
Word is Baldwins wife is a SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST !!
This per Canzanos radio program, so consider the source.
what does that have to do with anything?
Serious question?
We’ve often had discussions here about the value of a sports psychologist in the mental (which guides the physical) development of players/teams. Casey has used one on a contract basis, but It hasn’t been clear if other coaches have as well.
Meditation and visualization can have a dramatic effect on athletes, I believe especially at this level.
We’ve had comments here from someone who works in the field, perhaps they can expand.
As a psychologist, she would have the ethical stance to not counsel her husband or anyone within his employment spectrum.
So that’s a neat story but really has nothing to do with anything except maybe informing the man of the value of going out and hiring another, possibly with her reference.
Bingo! Simply recognizing the potential benefit of using a competent SP would be a plus for any HC.
Not at all saying this makes the case for Baldwin, just found it interesting.
I would hope any coach finds therapy useful, either for the team as a unit or for the coach to visualize his or her leadership techniques.
And I would hope GA had been all he appeared at first. Didn’t make it so.
As a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) with the Association of Applied Sport Psychology (http://www.appliedsportpsych.org/) I can weigh in a bit.
Our work consists of many various aspects of cognitive training to reach optimal performance benefits. Yes, we do some work on imagery skills and potentially meditation/mindfulness if our focus is as such, yet much more of our work comes down to creating a ‘mentally sound’ mindset. This could be oriented around motivation, focus/attention control, confidence, energy management, the winning attitude that is frequently mentioned, or merely a greater level of grit and determination in regards to training, adversities, and personal/team growth.
The discipline of sport psychology, though specifically targeting performance, has many avenues in which to achieve these means. This leads to a fair amount of confusion for the general populace, as well as much in-fighting among ourselves as professionals (mostly those practicing applied work vs. academic research). Someone who can legally call themselves a ‘psychologist’ means that they have an APA accredited doctoral degree. Once that paper is securely in tow, they can add any preposition they like. These individuals usually have specialties in diagnosing various disorders, but may not necessarily target strict cognitive performance enhancement in their practice like an individual with a Master’s degree in applied sport psychology. Still, they get to call themselves sport psychologist (I don’t) and it’s another point of confusion and discontent among the field.
Currently the largest employer of sport and performance psychology practitioners in the world is the U.S. Army. They’ve contracted out approximately 200+ qualified and trained Masters-level individuals in the field to ensure that Soldiers are receiving the highest levels of performance and resilience skills necessary to be ready for today’s fight (http://www.acsim.army.mil/readyarmy/ra_csf.htm).
Secondarily, Major League Baseball is plugging in mental skills coaches at their major/minor league levels to begin bolstering their teams from the farm system, up. The Army is where they’re plucking many of their top candidates. I personally know each of the individuals in charge of the sport psych programs from this season’s MLB Championship Series teams.
As for Oregon State, I’ve mentioned a time or two before that we’re behind the curve (imagine that!). There are other PAC-12 programs that have implemented my services in the past, yet I continue to hear nothing about such progression from my own alma mater. I do know that specific coaches will occasionally bring someone in to work with a team on a contractual basis(Casey), but nothing is structured in house with the athletic department. Granted, 800+ athletes is impossible for a single individual to work with throughout a season, but the groundwork needs to be laid somewhere.
It’s my belief that with the carousel ride that coaching staffs have become in this day and age, a wise AD would ensure that there was a strong sport psychology director and presence within the university. This would help to maintain continuity between coaching transitions, foster values-driven behaviors across all sports/teams, and act as another level of support staff for each of the respective head coaches in terms of player performance.
Life is about more than sports. College athletics are supposed to exemplify that. Sport Psychology is the next step at the university level to ensure that our student-athletes are receiving the training and personal development that they need to demonstrate resilience and thrive in today’s challenging world. I hope to say in the near future that the Beavers are a part of that forward-thinking drive.
Thank you so much for taking time to inform us. I now remember that you were the one who was so helpful in these discussions in the past.
As a veteran I was particularly intrigued by the mention of involvement with the U S Army. I’ll follow the link you provided.
Again, appreciate your input!
Not a problem, OneOldBeav.
Thank you for your service!
I’m always down to talk shop if you or anyone else has questions in the future.
Sports psychologist? Does that mean she can psychoanalyze the cause of Beauners?
Mystery contract with Rick Neuheisel. He gets his last shot at redemption and building a winning program in PNW.
Rick has motivation, maturity, national contacts, national recognition with recruits from Washington, Cali, SEC country, and has knowledge of Corvallis.
He can put together a great staff, with time to build up OSU again.
I’m honestly not too sure if I am sarcastic or serious. If it is a choice between Baldwin and Neuheisel, I’d take Neuheisel I think.
Levitre and Ward in the field in SEA…
I thought that was Jimmy Hoffa?
Cold day in hell before the NFL will ever be on my TV in my house again.
…and they won’t miss you, so it’s a win win.
Because you dislike football that much?
And what’s hell?
Only a cold day in hell can revive the melted snowflake.
*snicker*
It’s like when the Koch Brothers thought they could start a movement, then the movement called themselves teabaggers and posted a bunch of videos of them throwing teabags in various bodies of water.
You just can’t make this stuff up.
I would equate the teabaggers and the fascist’s attempts to call themselves the alt-right with the “I’m with her” bullshit distraction.
All fools.
Oh… the Austrian “School”.
Holy shit!
What a mess that school is. Some of the dumbest dumb that has ever been produced in this world came from them. Numbers are not their friends.
I should amend that last. I view Rothbard as a valuable voice whose models could accurately show flaws in others’ systems. I often liken him to Marx because he could speak unfailingly to any folly and back it up with numbers. Unfortunately, his and Mises’ attempt to recreate economics to seemingly only project an analytical tool to a position of a substitute for a whole science was folly in itself. Marx also did this when he suggested some utopia beyond what he could correctly analyze and report.
Thus, their adherents (and they are not alone in this) have latched onto the minutia of their ideas and twisted them into what I’ve heard Richard Feynman call a cargo-cult science.
But, but, but…. you make up stuff all the time!
Source an example.
Was it humor?
The worst is when the Austrian School cultists run around try to get people to take their online courses. Bonus points when they don’t realize the person they’re suggesting it to is an economist.
Meh… I just show them my indifference curve.
Cory Hall has be “interviewing” for his next Head Coaching position but I am not talking about OSU. He either knew or now know’s he doesn’t stand a chance to get the OSU gig. Even if he finished strong with his final games. He is doing what ever he can to make it look like he is ready for a “small time” head coaching position. Even if the product on the field doesn’t produce a bunch of W’s, he is on National Television every week with camera’s showing him running up and down the field, getting comments from broadcasters like “Hall has injected new life into this team.” By offering a bunch of local 2 and low 3 star recruits, at least he can say he didn’t try. Besides, I don’t think any of these guys are much worse than what we have now. It would be up to Barnes to shutdown any recruiting. I don’t think he will be doing that. The new Head Coach will have to do what every other new Head Coach has done, separate the wheat from the chaff and get players to match his scheme.
I would love a Baldwin and Smith combo. I don’t see Smith moving back to Corvallis. He probably has it pretty good at UDub and Seattle has a lot more to offer than Corvallis. I think you can prove to a 4 year athlete that Corvallis and OSU are a great place to go to college. What might be harder is finding a Coach who wants to make Corvallis a permanent home. We are fortunate with Rueck, Casey and the Chaplin’s. I’m actually surprised that Zalesky has stayed on for so long. I hope Tinkle decides to stay. When Tres graduates, all of his kids will be out of school. Maybe Coach Thompson will take over. I think they are both good.
We have a low bar. That’s why Zalesky has stayed on so long. If we demanded relevance from our wrestling team, he would have been gone long ago.
We need to start a petition to can Zalesky… or to feed him some of what GA was smoking, and bring Les back to Corvallis for some real grappling.
Watching VB this year only confirms my belief that Taras should have left about four years ago.
“Seattle has a lot more to offer than Corvallis”
Depends on what you’re looking for. Seattle also has a lot more traffic and crap weather to offer than Corvallis. Oh, and a lot more violent crime too. Whoopie.
But it’s got free heroin needles and sky high taxes. Just what a young family dreams about.
Yeah… unless you’re in Bellevue or Bainbridge, the place is nice to visit but a bitch to live and work. And even those the first two are a pain when considering CoL and commuting.
I think places like Corvallis are starting to get their due from those who are wise. Only the money we refuse to invest keeps us from being competitive in terms of hiring a head coach. These guys live in the office. Having a five minute commute can’t hurt.
Yea if you are a coach with a family and what not Corvallis is IDEAL.
Casey announces 11 signees for the class of 2018 (ie: will join the team in 2019), 6 from the state of Washington. Includes Michael Gretler’s younger brother.
Take that Meggs!
http://www.osubeavers.com/news/2017/11/20/baseball-eleven-to-join-oregon-state-in-2019.aspx
You can’t recruit to Corvallis.
Nall should transfer…It has worked out recently for other Grad Transfers coming out of this shit show.
I wouldn’t begrudge him one bit given how his Beaver career has played out. Just speculating, but maybe the stuff out there about Tyner coming back has something to do with Nall leaving? I think the Beavs could do worse then having an in shape Tyner as the featured back next season or even a two back system with Pierce.
Finding the HC search interesting, Apparently ESPN can make up shit about the Beavs contacting Fisch (good for them for not doing that) and that other hack site can say the Bronco has signed a deal with the Beavs? Not thrilled, but the only constant seems to be both party interest with Beau Baldwin so far.
I personally am kind of intrigued by Erickson and his boys coming back. Why not? Kansas St. has an 80 year old coach and they could kick the Beavers asses front and back. DE should have never left in the first place, bastard! I don’t know of any ties he has to Barnes though.
Tim Euhus says….
From a quick look at Tim’s twitter, he favors DE.
But, then again, he seems to like the chainsaw!
“he seems to like the chainsaw!”
Nobody’s perfect.
If there has been one bright spot out of this nightmare that has been the last three years, it has been Nall. The kid from Sandy can play and is/was fun to watch because the potential was there every time he touched the ball for him to score. He was like Steven Jackson in that he didn’t need a lot of up front help – he was his own blocker. I hope he guts it out one more year as it would be difficult to watch him playing for someone else – especially in the P12.
He should go pro. Only so many hits you can take.
If he gets real interest from NFL scouts he should definitely go pro. If not he should transfer to a run heavy team. Can you imagine Nall running behind Stanford’s O line?
Ohio State? ha ha! Sure they have tons of RB depth…
As a graduate transfer can he transfer in-conference without sitting out a year?
Learning some new system/school just to get beat up in college for another year would be a poor choice. Either stick with what and who you know, or go to the NFL.
He’s going to need to learn to block if he does the latter.
Yes he has to sure up his pass pro before he can get to the league and actually play. Either here or elsewhere.Preferably here. Hopefully the new coach reaches out to Ryan the second the ink dries.
Intriguing – rumor mill rife with gossip of a DE – JS co-coach option coming to OSU. DE would be HC for 3 years and would be ‘grooming’ JS for the eventual job. It would certainly be non- traditional. I remember when DE came on board and met with JS – thought he was a ball boy; not the QB. Watched a lot of OSU DE coached football when he was here and gotta say it was pretty damn good – good enough to get me to fly down to the Fiesta Bowl and watch the Beavs kick the golden domers around. FYI – OSU has never lost to ND… Have to wait and see what happens in the next week.
I haven’t read into the reason(s) why, but I’m seeing a high volume of tweets today from Pitt fans who are pissed off about the state Barnes left their program in before leaving for OSU.
They make it sound like he made a really bad hire for their basketball HC position just before he left, and imply that he made the hire as a thank you or handshake agreement he had with the search firm he employed.
Does anybody know if he’s using the same search firm for the OSU football job?
Hard to ignore how pissed off their fans seem today.
We are the poor Bastards, again, it would seem.
Maybe every school just hates their AD. Our posts about BDC probably read the same.
That said, I hate Barnes. Bad personality…seems a bit stupid. I’m open to being wrong, and this hire will be the determining factor for me.
It’s not so much that they don’t like him, but the fact that just in the last 24 hours there has been a significant notice in their pissed off rants. They must have lost a big basketball game last night or something.
**checked ESPN and they got blown out by Penn State last night in non-con play. That must be it
Unless I have the wrong university (so many schools in that part of the country) the University of Montana men’s basketball team defeated Pitt recently. http://www.gogriz.com/news/2017/11/13/mens-basketball-montana-earns-signature-victory-with-win-at-pitt.aspx?path=mbball
The U of M mbb coach – think his name is DeCuire – was quoted as saying he wants a really tough pre-season schedule because the only mbb from the Big Sky conference is the conference champion. And the team gets blown out (except for Krystokowiak’s team once) because they haven’t had the experience of playing big-time teams. They will be playing both Stanford and UCLA soon.
DeCuire seems more creative than Tinkle was but I don’t keep track of the program all that much.
referring to the NCAA tournament but I imagine you figured that out.
“I’m open to being wrong”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
They started the year losing to Navy. That doesn’t exactly help with the positivity Kevin Stallings has never had. An empty Pete also means everyone can hear his potty mouth during the games.
He had a couple ball hogs on the floor last season, but he couldn’t bench them because he was almost as bad as we were in terms of injuries and availability of personnel.
We’re not using the same executive search firm. The one he used at Pitt was run by Barnes’ former boss at UW, who was also the AD at Vandy before that… when Vandy hired Stallings.
The equivalent in this search for OSU would be to hire someone as coach who he has worked with in the past.
To put it in perspective, Barnes worked for the guy who hired Tyrone Willingham at UW. Then he hired that guy to do a coaching search for him at Pitt.
If there’s anything useful in his connections, it’s that he also worked with and for Scott Woodward. So he has an in with first hand knowledge of Miles and Sumlin.
Pitt football is 4-7 and most likely going to end 4-8 with Miami as their last game of the season. Doesn’t Barnes have some accountability for that? Fan base is probably pissed off about that also. They usually get to a bowl game.
I don’t think that’s on him. I think that hire was done by Pederson. It was a decent hire at the time. Narduzzi is widely respected as one of the best football minds out there. And if they lose their last game, he’ll still have a better record than Chryst did in his three years.
I do think you’re correct about them grumblings about the way the season is going, though. Someone has trolled his Wiki page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Narduzzi
Of course, that could just be an enterprising Ped State fan.
Yeah, if I’m doing the math correctly, they have gone bowling for nine straight seasons, with the streak ending this year.
If you can get past the title, this is actually a decent take on the team. It also makes sense given Narduzzi’s abilities as a DC.
http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2017/11/20/trust-the-process/
God, if I never see the phrase “respect the process” again in my lifetime, I’ll be a satisfied man. I guess we will see how far defense gets them in the ACC next year.
Eggers – Nall Keeping Options Open for Next Year
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/379103-262984-osus-ryan-nall-weighs-his-options-for-next-year
“I have a lot of options,” he says. “I have a lot of people harping in my ear. I’m just trying to finish the season out; then I’ll get my body back to 100 percent. I have to talk to my parents and make a decision. All I know for sure is that I’ll be graduating next term.”
If he returns to college football, will it be at Oregon State? That could depend on who the Beavers hire as their head coach.
“I don’t know,” Nall says. “I haven’t made any decisions. I haven’t looked at anything. I’ll focus on this last part of the season and (who Oregon State hires as) the new coach. When the time comes, I’ll make a decision.”
So he might transfer to another school?
“Possibly,” he says. “That’s why I’m graduating early, so I can have the option to do whatever I want. I’ll have my degree. My plan was to graduate early enough to do whatever I want. “
Smart.
Knowing that some here do not take time to review the entire thread, I suggest anyone with an interest in the topic of sports psychology take a moment to review the comment posted above (12:27) by MonkeyLuven. Very informative.
The -1 rascal is running amok. We should have MonkeyLuven psycho analyze the sense of power someone gets from giving everyone a -1. It must be exhilarating!
For Jack.
Flightaware has a private jet flying into Corvallis today from Oakland, CA
https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KCVO
Was supposed to arrive at 3:08 today.
Rumor has it, the plane had the phrase #Beauner painted on it.
It also leaves Corvallis back for Oakland at about 4:25PM.
That’s a quick interview, or is there a press conference scheduled today?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PXT903
Does Jack Del Rio know his son doesn’t play at OSU anymore?
Hahaha, I thought the same thing
I heard it went down this way:
Ken Norton Jr.: I just wanted you to know that I applied to the Oregon State job, and they got back to me today and want an interview.
Jack Del Rio: #$%*! those *%&/~<!!!!!! You know I hate those $&##*\!!!!!! YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!!
Where’s it landing?
We cannot get any good recruits because we don’t have an airport. Common knowledge around these parts.
Now we’re talking!
Where are our beat reporters? There was a whole gaggle of reporters at the airport to watch all the Florida gloomy Guses get off the plane on Sunday night. Surely someone has seen this and is at CVO now.
?
With the recent announcement of 11 guys signed for Beaver Baseball, we all know why one of the “beat” reporters won’t find time to go to CVO.
He doesn’t need to actually be at the airport to run background checks on all of them unless he has his own finger printing equipment and wants to take care of that on the spot!
Ken Norton JR relieved of duties by Raiders today…
Fired over five hours ago. That’s enough time to get on a private charter and fly up to Corvallis for Thanksgiving.
lol…
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-linebacker-bruce-irvin-appears-to-rip-team-for-defensive-coordinator-firing/
Del Rio leaves a sacrifice on the fanboy altar.
Corvallis does have an airport, it just can’t handle the big jets…
Airport Operational Statistics
Aircraft based on the field: 164
Single engine airplanes: 140
Multi engine airplanes: 14
Jet airplanes: 4
Helicopters: 6
Aircraft operations: avg 143/day *
96% local general aviation
2% transient general aviation
2% military
1% air taxi
* for 12-month period ending 01 March 2016
This is from their website…
Who knew transients could afford planes?
You’ve heard the urban legend that freeway exit guy walks three blocks after work to get in his BMW and drive home to the burbs?
Casey signs 11. Notice Dukart isn’t one of them. He must really be banking on that football scholarship offer holding with the new coach.
Top names to know,
Jayce Easley
Gavin Grant
Matt Gretler
Solid class. Don’t see many choosing the pros over osu. This class is going to arrive after Madrigal, Grenier, and Larnach leave.
Don’t think Dukart can sign if he is gonna sign a football scholarship. I believe that anyone on the football team can only get financial aid for playing football. So even if he plans to play baseball at OSU it’d be as a walk on, no need to sing a letter of intent to walk on.
My point is that he may not get that football scholarship once a new coach is hired.
Dukart is a borderline D1 football player especially at QB.
OT…
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/aggies/article/Texas-A-M-plans-to-fire-Kevin-Sumlin-after-LSU-12375659.php
Is there any chance of an Erickson HC, Smith OC, Heyward DC, Hall db’s Coach scenario? And if so how good of a result would that turn out to be?
No chance. Hiring based on nostalgia leads to disaster. Can’t recreate the past.
There are very few coaches who coach at their alma mater and are successful.
It just leads to a harder breakup.
Isn’t the pattern to re-hire the guy who already left once? Because you should be thankful that anyone even wants to coach at OSU, be careful what you wish for…blah blah
My concern with Dennis isn’t just his age or drinking….but why wasnt he any good after his first year at ASU?
Because Tulsa… er… Pitt… um… ASU is Todd Graham’s dream job, not DE’s.
Issues needing to be addressed:
Athletic department (especially top tier) needs reshuffling. Barnes is new. He gets pass but must prove his worth during this process & hire. No sense of urgency among other AD staff. Soft and too much feel good. Please make changes where needed. Example of top notch FB mindset was
Barnhart & Bulldog DeCarolis bent on getting FB right. Told entire AD staff & coaches to accept FB #1 because it will pay their salaries. Mitch B was Full speed ahead with FB player development. Adressed strength staff (hired Greener & let him build a staff: look @all the wins & NFLers). Gave unheard of $ for MetRx supplement budget & redid entire weight room. Strength not the fluffy functional track voodoo.
Get the training staff in place with a FB mentality. Graft was a good ATC but had a better FB mindset and developed a staff to reflect that. No softies can be there either.
Don’t know state of academic unit now. It was a freaking train wreck with the blonde girl.
Must hire a FB coach that is a die hard FB guy with a plan. Strength staff #1; great FB coordinators & teachers & recruiters. Smith and young guys are years away from knowing that kind of plan. Just because he brings the Peterson cookbook, don’t make him a chef.
Don’t misunderstand, it is a caring athlete centered program, but OSU needs tough minded coach and support staff to run it.
DE was lazy and drinking behind the scenes wrecked his ability for any long term success. Set very poor example and did not coach and press his staff to get better. Horrible leadership. Had good young coaches but didn’t seize on the ability to grow them and build an OSU coach tree to eventually pick from.
ASU was a diseased behind the scenes in every facet of the FB program. Trust me. They were lucky to field a team and get on the bus. Internal rot starts at the corner office. He got rid of Joe Ken, or didn’t welcome him and allow for the adjustment.
Finally, the FB program needs a behind the scenes do,it all guy. There was a guy named Clifford that cleaned up,so much crap. Not sweeping it under, but getting guys set straight. Scared straight.
Just my 2 cents.
No Snith, no Beau,
You should ask Stanford’s S&C staff how that functional fufu stuff is working out for them. Or take a visit to one of EXOS’ facilities and see how many professional, d1 and elite athletes are working on non sexy stuff… I disagree with that statement in your post, that’s all Simon and Crapperpants were about, was max lifts and squats.
There was not enough attention to stability and mobility components in my opinion. Every athlete that plays Division 1 football has the ability to be fast, to accelerate, but the key to agility, and change of direction is the ability to decelerate. That requires “fufu” functional stuff and a lot of functional non sexy exercises.
Been to EXOS PHX, GulfBreeze, Frisco, San Diego. I know all the guys at all the facilities. Know Verstegen, Stemmerman, Brett, Merlino, etc…
Pillar Prep, Movement Prep, Skill Develop, MedBall and Plyo, Strength and Power, ESD, Regen, Nutrtion. All the blocks. The typical EXOS training plan is built on solid foundation but geared towards athletes training in prime environments with nothing else but sports to do. EXOS also gets the athletes AFTER 4-5 years with collegiate S&C coaches. I know Turley @the farm. Assistant coaches left in droves BPC he has small mans disease. He gets great hi character kids that Shaw recruits from a mold. I know Turleys plan. Most things work. Some are better than others.Collegiate S&C is the sweet science of balancing all the above and connecting with the players to get them to do everything optimally
Don’t lose my point. . I’m telling you that VERY FEW young Head FB coaches get the support staff right. IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT. If OSU tried UO Radcliffe’s workouts, there would not have been the success in the 1999-2005 period. Period. I saw it first hand. If OSU hires a Hot young guy, they better know he has this stuff covered.
But I agree with everything else you said 100%. … are you speaking of Bob Clifford?
his offense failed to evolve. He’s a one back pro set offense. the spread took over college ball while he was at ASU.
So there’s no need to hire him now when he’s way past the times.
Disagree. We need to be doing something different, not what everyone else is doing.
Agree that OSU needs to run an offense that will attract some attention and make it stand out from the crowd, not sure they can consistently recruit the hogs required to run a pro set successfully.
high schools aren’t producing the power run linemen anymore because they are running spread offenses too.
Yeah Graham sure didn’t turn out to be much better
Lindsay with some straight fire at Crapperpants: says he “screwed the program over”, this mess is his fault, and she’s not impressed by him leaving money on the table since he got paid a ton through the end of this year.
Preach it!
Who the fuck cares about her opinion?
I don’t usually agree with her, but she’s right on this time
Last week on the Beaver show, Lindsay got the date wrong for the early signing period. She said it was Dec 8th and there’s been so many reports of it actually being Dec. 20th. How and the heck do you get something as basic as the change to the early signing period wrong….Lack of preparation can be the only answer to that one. Once she said Dec 8th, anything else she said afterwards did not have an ounce of credibility.
Barnes could have had him for cause/violation in the contract, and probably came to this agreement to help a buddy. Barnes is awful.
So your going to go all sprague on us all and tease this. I would love to know why exactly he left. But than again, I don’t buy into the I know this but won’t say thing, it’s kinda annoying.
I do love this blog and not trying to hate
You know why he left?
Damn, I hope nothing like that happened, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Great. Now I have that idea rattling around in my head and it won’t get out :(
I think he’s pushing the boozer rumor.
Golly!
It must be true, or everyone would have reported it by now.
Nuthin’ made up by the loony bin conspiracy types who still lets GA rent space in their heads for nuthin’.
These, btw, would be cryptic messages. I’m sure they’re interspersed with pics of donuts and cups of coffee.
“Ouch,” said nobody.
“Ouch”, said the ground Lindsay walked on.
He got paid a ton of money, but he left a metric shit load of money on the table. Of course she’s not impressed, she has no skin in the game and it doesn’t help her “woe is me, poor osu, they dont have an airport” line of bullshit she peddles nonstop.
Dream scenario that I think would rock the Pac 12 power structure if these guys would come together:
Les Miles HC
Kevin Sumlin OC
Ken Norton DC
Fill in all position coaches with young energetic guys that want to win in Corvallis, poach some assistants from rivals like:
Michael Johnson
Kieth Heyward
Trent Bray
Marques Tuiasosopo
Inoke Breckterfield
Keep on staff:
Coach Hall
Lockette
One requirement: no one will have any ties to the state of Utah.
Sumlin will have another HC job.
I’d be fine with Miles, or Sumlin as HC right now.
Norton may be a darkhorse HC option late in the scenario. Although Beau Baldwin HC paired with Norton DC might be fascinating to see also.
Not too high on the DE/J Smith concept, although Ev Bernard’s idea of bringing back alums to throw into a grand effort to change the culture is intriguing. Not sure it would work with an old DE/too green JS at the helm.
This scenario would cost over 10 million a year.
GA left 13 mil on the table…OSU gets one good year of football?
2018 baseball schedule released today. Fullerton comes to Goss in March. Another big OOC series at Missouri State.
http://www.osubeavers.com/news/2017/11/21/22-tv-games-dot-baseball-schedule-in-18.aspx?path=baseball
Kelly reportedly headed to UCLA or Florida. Probably takes Helfrich with him.
Really didn’t think he’d come back to the college game. I think he goes to UCLA. Boosters there aren’t as needy as the Florida boosters.
It will be interesting to watch, if he comes back for real. I don’t think there are many coaches that have made the NFL jump then come back and have had success. Saban, and Erickson for a few years. someone help me out here no one else comes to mind as far as making it work. I think it’s riskier then hiring a good coordinator.
Spurrier, Carroll, harbaugh,
Long ago but not forgotten, Lou holtz.
Petrino to a lesser extent.
Harbaugh was a position coach in the NFL. There are likely a lot of successful college coaches who had some time in the coaching ranks of the NFL before choosing to go the college route.
Oh… you’re saying he’s a success now… at Michigan.
I’d put him in the mediocre, can’t get over the hump camp for now.
I was thinking head coach at college, then head coach nfl, then back to head coach college with success. Thanks guys that’s an interesting list.
Harbaugh took the 49ers to a SB as HC.
I was confused. I was thinking we were talking about his time at Stanford as being the successful period of his college coaching. It’s clear now that we’re talking college–>NFL–>college, with the second college stint being the factor.
We can probably make him a TBD, along with Kelly and Schiano… and maybe Gruden if we allow college assistant–>NFL–>TV–>rumors.
Booby Petrino
Pete Carroll
John Robinson, Bike Smiley, Al Groh at least were mediocre, even if they couldn’t get over the hump… better than Mora or Spurrier did.
Bill Walsh
Lou Holtz
Gene Stallings
Butch Davis***
Dave Grohl…he can be the front man
Bill Walsh won a conference title when he returned to Stanford in 1992, struggled after that but I’d call a conference title a success.
And of course I think as much as we dislike him on this site its impossible to call Riley’s entire 2nd stint at OSU a failure so he’d have to count.
He’s in Jack’s list under his pseudonym.
Uh, Bike Riley?
I think he will be kicking ass and taking names by year 3. Mark it, dude.
Kelly’s agent is a UCLA booster.
I would think Kelly would take UCLA because he could disappear in a sea of celebrity and be home from a recruiting visit in time for an evening snack and bed.
One reason he might not go with UCLA… Under Armor.
OT:
WBB today vs North Carolina Central at 11am PT.
A stream produced by NCCU is supposed to be available at:
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/nccu/
The team plays Duke on Saturday before heading to Hawaii for games the following Fri/Sat.
VOLLEYBALL:
vs a ranked UCLA team today at 1pm, streamed by OSU
http://pac-12.com/live/oregon-state-university
So according to the “experts” at footballscoop Chip Kelly in now letting Phil Knight tell him where he can and can’t coach.
“Chip Kelly: While attention centers on Florida and UCLA, Kelly has turned down overtures from Tennessee and Nebraska according to George Schroeder of USA Today. Schroeder also reports that Kelly is intrigued by a potential opening at Arizona State, whose affiliation with Adidas would be less of a sticking point for close friend Phil Knight than UCLA-affiliated Under Armour, who Knight considers “a bitter rival.”
I figured Daddy Phil would put his money behind the hire, as in supplementing the Chipster’s salary with a concurrent contract.
Who the hell would make a business decision based solely on a friend’s irrational advice?
If uncle Phil has so much stroke with CK he’d be coaching at Oregon right now.
good point
I wish OSU went under armor
opps
Or Adidas, at least they have a physical presence in the state.
Is the DamPodcast worth checking out? I haven’t heard any reviews
https://twitter.com/BrandonSprague/status/933183100141502465
Just to hear Sprague go nuclear. I covered it on Twitter.
Yeah, he really did lose it. Which rather he wants to admit it or not means he knows he shouldn’t have made such a tweet.
I didn’t go off on him because I’m not 2 years old but to claim that he is a radio host so he doesn’t have to explain such a tweet is ridiculous.
I must have clicked the wrong link. The show i listened to was the Dude Bruh-cast featuring Brandon Sprague(dropping another “i got drunk” reference) along with his buddy, DudeBruh. Oh, and Angie listened in for most of the show.
That was garbage
Wait… there are actual Ken Norton Jr. rumors?
Well you can’t ignore him with all of his P5 head coaching experience…
Huh?
He was a position/AHC. Who said anything about head coaching experience?
He is a spectacular recruiter.
Now that I look into actual rumors, he’s on a couple fanboy lists out there (not any of our media… although, someone mentioned him a couple weeks back). And there’s a small segment of USC fans who want to fire Helton and hire Norton.
Nothing serious out there right now.
Derp.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/379362-266326-almost-down-to-the-wire-on-oregon-state-football-coaching-searc
Beaver officials have interviewed several others for the position, including California O-coordinator Beau Baldwin, Washington O-coordinator Jonathan Smith and current interim coach Cory Hall. One source says Mike Bloomgren, Stanford’s O-coodinator, also has been interviewed.
Athletic director Scott Barnes and school president Ed Ray are waiting to speak to at least two head coaches — one of a Power Five program — before reaching a final decision.
If they are waiting on HC’s we might have to wait till after championship weekend. Does make you wonder what P5 HC they plan to talk too (Mendenhall?).
I wonder what Smith said in his interview. I have no reason to believe in it working but for some reason a Smith hire would excite me more than most the names I’ve heard. I just think he’d put together a strong staff and know how to sell OSU to recruits.
Sumlin?
If I were a betting man I’d lay my money on one of those two being Mendenhall.
With such an inspired list, I suspect the two head coaches they’re waiting to talk to are Mike Riley and Jeff Tedford… maybe Brent Brennan.
I wonder if the first question in every interview was:
Are you willing to eat the cost of the search performed by the search firm we hired to find you?
Second question: “How do you feel about tartan?”
Come on, if they actually interviewed Bloomgren, you should be happy.
No to bloomgren, not an offensive Mastermind. Can’t come up with a good game plan when Love is hurt, also they have been using 2 different QBs. I’m not into having a coach who can’t decide on a qb
Kind of a short sighted opinion based on ONE game isn’t it?
Did you even bother to look at Stanford’s offensive statistics as a whole the entire time Bloomgren has been the OC? Or you’d rather just look at this year???? Sorry but I’m not buying your reasoning here.
He’s such an outlier on that list. I don’t bet on outliers to be the answer to what I think is sketchy methodology.
If that’s all that applied, so be it. It’s not like the final list in 2014 was all that wonderful. Although, reading up on Bronco makes it seem like he was putting on a facade at BYU and disliked doing so. That’s probably why everything during that time looked like a disgruntled fake person was heading the program. They seem to like him at UVA, saying none of the tortured weirdness he exhibited at BYU is apparent there.
I have found Kerry to be all over the place with info on the search. Not sure I am buying what he is selling to be honest. Like the June Jones thing. It was telling that he was only source who even brought that up, which showed there wasnt much to that one.
It means Kerry no longer has his insider status at osu. He had it with riely and bdc, which is why he got all the top stories and better info.
With Barnes and Andersen, they had no history with Kerry so they don’t divulge info all that often. Andersen made a dumb choice by confiding in canzano instead of eggers.
It was pretty obvious kerry had direct info from GA while he was here. He had recruiting info that nobody should have had access to. Do the math, it was coming from GA.
But that well has dried up now.
Time to develop new contacts
He will when they become real
OT: We’ve discussed it here at length. According to the interwebs it looks like we’re finally no too far from Buh Bye Net Neutrality.
But whats really important is NFL players not standing for the anthem. Merica…..
At least they didn’t renew the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act.
Taking people’s rights away would upset them.
Heard the hire is done and will be announced Sunday/Monday — setting up presser times, etc will determine that.
So, can we deduct anything from this in terms of whether this guy is currently not working? Not sure the rules on who we can talk to during the season.
Angie said it was already done too. Must mean it’s not a head coach planning to coach in his conference playoff. Outside of tjat scenario, I would think anybody else would be available for the press conference as soon as this weekend’s games are over.
So we can talk to other teams head coaches and coordinators in-season, no rules preventing that?
I guess we can’t rule anyone out then.
Thats why we hired a search firm… no need to adhere to ncaa (or other unwritten) rules regarding contact…
Gotcha, that’s smart, then.
Yeah, i think that’s where agents and search firms come in handy. So basically, we know it’s not a coach in the running for any major post season games. Doesn’t really eliminate any of the names we’ve heard though.
Doesn’t really eliminate any of the names we’ve heard though.
Except Saban and Meyer.
Doesn’t rule out gum chewer.
If the hire does come Sunday or Monday, it doesn’t necessarily mean its a coach not in the postseason. A lot of coaches leave before bowl games.
Barnes is probably waiting to see who gets fired this weekend first. Maybe one of his candidates could be fired. That coach would wait to get fired so he can collect his buyout. If he left voluntarily, he’d owe the buyout.
My irrational thought is that he’s waiting for Sumlin or Bielema.
I haven’t changed my thought that it’s going to be Baldwin. It’s the easy choice. Inexpensive, won’t raise expectations too quickly, has a proven record as a hc, young enough to build a program, has a connection to Barnes.
Never thought about Bielema.
Not really going out on a limb here, but given what we know or think we know, it has to be Beau Baldwin who we announce next week.
With Aaron Best(EWU) as his OC or possibly Bodie Reeder(EWU) or Troy Taylor(Utah/EWU) if he can’t get Best to walk away from his HC job.
I think the support staff comes together more quickly this time around, as it’s as much of a sudden change like GA leaving Wisconsin was last time around.
Heard the delay in the announcement (possibly sunday to monday) is due to setting up presser times and also working on assistants.
Please no – if this is the staff I’m out…
You can be sure Barnes will hire the wrong people. It’s what Beavers do. What you put a Beaver on it, they hire the wrong people.
Rueck? Casey? Bad hires?
We’re talking about football, Bozo Mcgee.
It’s like the Utah gang… only from the Palouse.
How can it be three years later and people are still spelling his name “Anderson” with an “o”? Come on guys, there is no O in Crapperpants! Or his teams…
The “o” is for, “o”h God I’m bad with QBs.
He tried to O this season but Luton pulled it out against psu.
I’m surprised how many people are down on Bronco, where he the hire. He was #1 on my list last cycle. We’d have been so much better off with him…
We would be better. But you can’t dismiss his persona and the nastiness of his teams when he was at BYU. That would completely fail in Corvallis… almost on day one… not that we haven’t seen failure before.
People reminisce on DE and the nastiness of those teams. I don’t see the issue. His persona is fine. He is soft spoken and even sounds gay.
Different nastiness by far. DE’s played on the edge physically. But they weren’t stuck on hate for 60 minutes. They actually looked like they were having fun.
no they’d get personal fouls every other play…on the other hand the D was so good that it did not seem to matter much.
“Even sounds gay”
Really Angry? Your Douche level has no limits
So you’re gay. Cool story, bro.
I have no problem hiring him. But it doesn’t get me excited. It’s more of a “ok, he’s our coach. Go out and win some games.”
People talk about Bronco being a complainer whem he was in Corvallis. I say, welcome to the club, Bronco. I dont want a coach who comes in and pretends our athletic department has their shit together. That was Riley for so many years.
He trashed OSU. So do we. It’s a match made in heaven.
Virginia was a cluster fuck his first season and now they are in a bowl game season two, it’s what I naively expected from Anderson.
He’s a great coach. We won’t get him this round. We could have last and been winning 60% of games, but people found him boring, so we went with the flash hire and got killed.
GA did seem better at the time because he was more unknown (and with the unknown comes the excitement of “what if”/potential, etc), so it’s understandable, to be fair.
I would have been pleased with Rocky Long last go round. He’s too old now.
I wasn’t clear….Barnes has or is going to interview one current P-5 HC? Mendenhall would make sense from all of the rumors, but I don’t really have a clue. Maybe it’s Smilin” Mike!!!!!
Sedge is now posting photos of Baldwin. I guess he’s the coach. I’m fine with that and had him as my leader this cycle.
My question would be: which recruits can he bring with him from Cal?
lol…
None.
Is this your new schtick? To just disagree with everything for the sake of playing devil’s advocate?
Obviously he’ll bring some. Anyway, to those who know, who will he bring?
He’s not going to bring anyone. He’s not a primary recruiter and has almost no connections that would be viable to swing any of the current commits… except maybe the QB he got.
Their QB is a 4 star, so that would be huge.
Honest question: do we think he’d preserve Petras’ commitment?
Oh, and that’s not disagreement.
That’s a straight-up answer to your question.
I can live with that. I’m almost certain the team will do better at QB in the future with Baldwin in charge.
Hopefully brings the EWU qb as a grad transfer. After evaluating Luton, I would think he would see the need for immediate QB depth next year since nobody else on our roster has played a snap, besides Blount.
He can bring Petras. Cal offered him too.
Can their center grad transfer too?
FFS even Washington St was able to get a P5 coach. If that Beauner guy is the hire and that’s the best OSU can do? I am seriously out. Done with this joke of a football program with zero commitment to building a winning program. Another fucking hope and pray hire.
Tell me, what other p% schools with coaching vacancies would consider Beauner or Smith?
We could have had Washington States coach. Beaver fans were against it, and instead insisted Riley was good…lol
True, and I think we were the only two that thought it was a good idea.
Yep, caught so much shit for that.
The Beavs might need to land Baldwin before Riley gets fired and Moos lures Leach to Nebraska. Then Wazzu goes after Baldwin if he is still available.
Leach to Nebraska? Talk about your all time bad fits. I don’t think there’s any chance of that.
I was in favor of hiring of Leach too.
The argument against is that he’ll top out at the same rate MR topped out. He’ll never win a conference title because his teams are flawed so significantly that the best of them will find a way to not win a conference title.
It looks like he’s in the midst of that right now. And it took him six years and lucking into one of the best college QBs to get him to that level.
Besides, we could not have had him.
I’d agree with most of that except for the last statement.
At that time I think OSU could have had Leach. He was unemployed for a few seasons and most programs didn’t want to touch him after the allegations and stories regarding player mistreatment. WSU took a flyer on him because after Wulff they could afford to. Did Leach have multiple P5 suitors and choose WSU for their facilities, airport, and other program advantages?
Leach is sitting at 38-36 at WSU right now, 26-27 in conference play. Pretty Riley-esque but he gets more style points because he’s stubborn about throwing the ball and he is a relatively good and humorous interview in a profession littered with predictable and boring interviews. He did get a sun bowl win, and got an 8-5 team to the Holiday Bowl where they shit the bed in a loss to Minny and all world QB Mitch Leidner.
Leach will likely always be his own biggest obstacle to winning big. He’ll eschew a better strategy simply because it doesn’t fit with his style.
At that time?
Are we talking te wild speculation that MR would leave for USC… until he got the lifetime contract?
None of Mike Leach’s unemployed years coincided with any job openings at OSU. And OSU wasn’t going to poach him when there was an opening.
Therefore, we could not have had him.
I do give him credit enough to probably have a couple solid quips about OSU’s expectations given this most current list of hopefuls.
At least we finally got the VFC done. It’s going to be a while before any excitement returns to OSU football.
we could have had him, despite what Jack says. At the end of the 2011 season Leach had been out of coaching for 2-3 years, so his market value was down. At the same time, OSU was coming off back to back losing seasons for the first time since 1997-98, during Riley I. It was clear by the end of 2011 that Riley had topped out, as Angry so cogently pointed out at the time. That was the time of Angry’s epic “Is MIke Riley Depressed” and “9 win cap” posts. It is true that Oregon State was not inclined to fire Riley in 2011 but that does not mean, per force, that we “couldn’t” have hired Leach. An athletic department with a critical outlook and viewing the strategic threat emerging in Eugene WOULD have fired Riley and hired someone like Leach, for the same reason Don Moos hired him in Pullman: the need to be competitive. Subsequent events in both Corvallis and Pullman clearly indicate that after the 2011 season Riley should have been fired and Leach could have been hired.
So we’re going to make it a matter of semantics? We’re still in need of the money to buy out the lifetime contract, an AD other than BDC and a fan base who would look beyond a coach not caring for his players’ health in order to still not win a conference championship.
I may eat crow on that last this year because of some inexplicable losses by UW. But if they don’t do it with Falk, they don’t do it.
I’m too lazy to look at the Cal boards but are they talking about Baldwin leaving and do they care?
Nope.
They’re more worried that Kelly poaches Azzinaro and Greatwood.
It’s going to be anti-climatic now when they announce Baldwin.
Funny, I wrote Barnes the day they announced the 200k search firm and said “Just hire Baldwin and save the money”
It seems like the only two parties with mutual interest. Baldwin seems to be confident, this job could be a career killer going forward. If he’s the one, I like that he’s willing to take the risk. I just hope he’s not Paul Wulff redux.
I don’t see any similarities with Wulff other than EWU. Baldwin is so much more aggressive and bright.
I’m not comparing personalities, just situations. Successful FCS coach, cluster fuck Power 5 program, he couldn’t get it done. It took an experienced, winning Power 5 coach to turn it around Wazzu. I wish Baldwin the best, I hope it doesn’t take an experienced Power 5 winner to do the same for the Beavs.
Wulff never had a year as a P5 OC. He also had a crappy personality and was mopey.
I didn’t want Baldwin last cycle. This cycle, he’s a pretty good hire. Risky with unknown upside, but given the talent pool it’s a pretty good gamble.
Baldwin did have an impressive record at EWU…something like 88-34.
85-32. Wulff was 53-40. Fact is, Washington State made a really bad hire. No reason for a 53-40 HC at EWU with zero coordinator experience to get a HC job.
They’re not at all the same. Baldwin might fail, but it won’t be because he’s like Wulff.
I’m more of the opinion that “cluster fuck programs” need proven major program winners to turn around. I actually hope I’m wrong. Baldwin seems like a good hire for what’s out there.
I saw the ducks have the NUMBER 1 (?!?) recruiting classes for both football and basketball and now just can’t wait to hear about the recruiting violations and under the table payments.
In November that means two things:
Jack and shit.
And Jack left town.
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/pete-thamel-predicts-beau-baldwin-to-oregon-state
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zA7tcxyWnM
Clearly brighter than Wulff. Wish those comparisons would stop. He’s had 10 years of seasoning since that presser. I think it’s a good hire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKr-5p3sb64
Was this when he was coaching high school a few years back?
If this guy is hired we can continue to expect FCS schools and get blown out by D1 programs… as well as see season tickets continue to decline… and we stay around the 100s in recruit rankings…
THIS WOULD UNEQUIVOCALLY BE SEEN AS A SETTLE HIRE AND PROOF THAT THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT DOES NOT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM.
First video I’ve seen of the guy really, but his subject-verb agreement seems appropriate, so that’s a step in the right direction.
that clip is better than anything I’ve ever seen from Riley, Andersen, or Hall for that matter
But, he no Dee Andors. Man thet guy could make me want to go out and hit the Uckes after a Beaver lunch in PDX. Never be a one like Him..Anyone else remeber??
Dee Andros, US Marine, decorated hero at Iwo Jima. Yes, I remember Dee Andros. I met the man outside Gill one morning while walking to class in 1974. A true gentleman, classy guy. He was an icon on campus in those days.
Dee was a pretty cool guy. He was salty as hell, but he was good people.
Doesn’t make his football hirings forgivable. It’s too bad he hired Avezzano, or he wold have been trusted to make the next hire. DE was headed to Corvallis if he wasn’t canned and replaced by a fossil.
And Dee Andros record at Idaho and OSU was?
Idaho = 11-16-1 for a winning percentage of .411
OSU = 51-64-1 = winning percentage of .444
Andros had five consecutive years(’67 to ’70) with winning records leading the Beavs, but it went to hell after those with five straight years of losing records culminating in 1-10 in 1975.
Sorry for the typ’os
Go look up some x’s and o’s discussion with him. The Cal rivals site did one a while back. He is a really innovative offensive mind. I think his staff will be the major factor between success and failure. Needs great recruiters. Keith Hayward should be his first call for DC. Bring Steve Greatwood back to the state of Oregon. Great o-line coach. Michael Johnson, who has a 4/5- star QB son for de-facto OC.
It’s a good hire given the talent pool. Sure, could get a retread and build it up to stability, but if you want to go the “young with more upside” route, this is the best we could do given the candidates and what we can pay.
I can see both arguments.
It’s possible the hire isn’t Baldwin. I personally haven’t confirmed it. But it’s sounding this way.
His coordinators will make it or break it. If he fills his staff with FCS guys I’m not holding out hope.
I curious about the sitting Power 5 HC they are supposedly talking to or maybe that’s just a little misinformation to give the impression that proven talent is interested? Or are they counting “reaching out” to Bronco and Butch Jones and getting told “no” as sitting Power 5 interest?
Maybe Tedford.
I guess Tedford’s not technically a current Power 5 coach, but I have heard his name. I don’t know if he would want the hassle. He’s off to a good start in a place where he has history.
The Wulff comparisons are beyond lazy. “Well, he coached at an FCS school and then failed in the Pac-12.” Selective evidence gathering. One could easily fire back with, what about Jim Harbaugh? He only had FCS head coaching experience before he went to Stanford.
Agree. Chip was at N.H.
Chip was a highly successful OC at a P5 school for two years.
Wulff comparisons aren’t beyond lazy. They’re just lazy. You’re correct that they’re just shallow conflations of two different realities… just as your ignorance of Harbaugh’s experience leads you to a lazy comparative.
Harbaugh was known in his 15 years in the NFL to be a coach on the field. He was a coach’s son. For the last half of his NFL career he was an unpaid assistant coach for his father, learning how to evaluate and recruit PSAs from wherever he went. You would have to ignore the leader he was as a player on the highest level while also volunteering his time to be some schlub on the lowest level to say he only had FCS head coaching experience before Stanford. I guarantee the people who followed him to Stanford and became his staff knew all this.
My guess:
Baldwin as HC
Heyward or Hall as DC
Smith as OC (rumors are he’s soon to be fired at Washington)
Could be interesting. Only great recruiter there is Heyward, so the ancillary staff would have to be killer. I like the chemistry of all those guys, though.
Isn’t Hall the one that brings in the TMP guys from California?
Diet Coke Baldwin led that charge, but HAll is connected for sure
For Heyward, coming to Oregon wasn’t a repudiation of his OSU ties. It was a business decision he feels can put him closer to his goal.
“I want to be a head coach,” he said. “When the time is right for that, it will come.”
And….
Simonton, Heyward’s former OSU teammate, wouldn’t put a head-coaching gig past him, calling him “the smartest football player I’d ever played with,” … He believes Heyward could become a defensive coordinator for the first time soon and would take to it quickly, just as he learned on the fly as a player.
From a piece just up at the O, written by A. Greif
We don’t want Hall as DC. He inserted himself vs ASU and defense was worse.
Heyward as DC would be a savvy move by OSU.
Leave Hall aa a DB coach and lead recruiter.
Smith as OC would be fine. I think he woild be an asset as OC and does appear as he will most likely need the work. This would unite the Baldwin majority faction with those who want some past ties and provide best of both.
That’s a damn good staff for OSU that will present well to fans, reruits and media. Would really like the direction if we end up with this staff of Baldwin, Heyward, Smith and Hall.
Gotta wonder if Hall would stick around to be a positon coach under a DC (Heyward) who has a strong background coaching DB’s.
Also gotta wonder if Baldwin would be open to all these guys. Seems he is in a strong position to pick his own staff.
Why the f would Smith come be an OC for Baldwin?
Because he’s going to need a job?
Not sure there’s a lot of demand for him after Washington says he sucks as an OC and fires him.
My bad, didn’t see the comments about him getting shit canned by udub.
Mama has insider info huh
Because Angie hinted strongly in Dam Podcast that rumor is he will be fired by UW after sesson and need work. What other Pac-12 school has an OC opening besides UCLA that is pursuing Chip?
For Smith he gets to keep making 650K or so as OC at OSU. And in scenario where Baldwin is let go or moves on after say 5-6 years then Smith would get high consideration to replace him as long as offense is productive.
Angie knows nothing, fans are complaining, that is the only bases for such rumors.
Five or six years? More like two or three.
Watch us hire Banker.
Watch me put a burning bag of dogshit on Scott Barnes doorstep.
Molotov crap bag!
I am not endorsing Banker. Any coach that followed him at a University had defense that was dramatically worse in points per game. I was surprised when I looked it up because I did not expect it.
Banker definitely had some bad moments, but the more I look at the lack of success of those who followed I wonder whether our dislike for Banker is more situational. He would look plain stupid in some situations, but statistically overall his defenses were solid enough.
Riley’s offenses averaged close to 28 points a game while here. Banker’s defenses averaged close to 25. Quite often you will not win a lot of games with that type of offensive output. Banker even improved a little in points per game at Nebraska. The more I looked into it the more I felt like Riley rode Banker’s defense to any success they were going to have because the offense was not usually going to outscore people. It is really ironic that Riley ultimately fired Banker and the defense digressed to 33 points per game and it probably costs him the job. A lot of people think that Banker was able coach at a high level due to Riley, but the numbers often show that Banker was Riley’s saving grace even though he did not receive credit for it.
Banker’s stubbornness in not adapting at times was obvious to most everyone. There was lack of creativity at times. In game adaption was a weakness. He was constantly beat in the same ways. The ways to exploit Banker defenses were well documented. In game communication was weak, as well. Despite all these weaknesses Banker’s defenses were above average in college every year. My evaluation made me conclude that the obvious flaws of Banker left me in frustration and not able to see his good points.
I am OK with Baldwin. Good upside yet a pretty safe hire. The issue I see with a young up and comer is if Baldwin is successful we end up being a stepping stone for him to land a better P5 job.
So what? Then the job is attractive for many more coaches, and we’ll have a bigger selection pool. Right now our pool is pretty small.
I understand that’s the lay of the land today. Not a lot we can do about it but it is a risk nobody is talking about. With that being said with the shape the program is in today there is no magic bullet. Best case senecio Baldwin lifts us to respectability and leaves us in better shape than when he got here.
That’s not likely.
It seems even less likely for OSU fan to have an expectation better than hiring a moderately successful FCS coach who has yet to succeed on the FBS level.
That being said, the program itself is fine other than our own expectations. The talent is better than it was three years ago. From the looks of our hiring pool everywhere except for QB and WR is better now than it will be in three years.
And I will force myself to watch it all. It’s depressing for now. But it will end sometime in 2020, hopefully.
Now I just dread the contract details. Beauner has done nothing to warrant seven figures per.
Good problem to have; similar to seeing assistants get offers.
Here’s my take on who I’d like for the next HC. Jeff Tedford and here’s why: 1) he generated lots of booster support at California to get the stadium upgraded, 2) he always had solid QBs, 3) always had solid RBs (Forsette and I think Lynch), 4) his teams always gave the Ducks fits, 5) a couple of teams were ranked in the top-10 for parts of the season, 6) solid recruiter, 7) he can pull his entire staff to OSU, 8) he can more than likely get some of his recruits for 2018 to switch to OSU, 9) McMaryion has one more year of eligibility and possibly might be willing to come back to OSU now that GA and the rest of the staff (except for Hall) will most likely be gone, 10) he’s got solid west coast connections especially in California.
If those aren’t good enough reasons, then I’d be happy with Beau Baldwin. However, given the current state of the program, I think the Beavs need an experienced HC that’s a proven winner. Originally, I didn’t like the idea of Tedford, but the more I thought about it and the reasons I just stated, I think it would be a great fit.
I’d be fine with him. He’d get us to 7 or 8 wins, then we can pass the program off to someone better.
Baldwin’s upside is probably 9 wins, and he has a lot more downside risk.
At this point, I think most Beav fans would be happy with 7-8 wins, restoring credibility, stability and getting a good QB in along with an good offensive system. I wonder though, how players like Nall and Tyner would react to such a hire. It’s a gamble because you can possibly lose most if not all of your 2018 verbals and then you have to start from scratch. I’m good with Baldwin too so long as he puts together a great staff and retains Hall as his lead recruiter. The future of the program hinges more so on this hire than it did when they hired Riley in the late 90s the first time…..or it could be back to the future of the late 70s, 80s and 90s losing year after year. I hope they get it right and I don’t think that Jonathan Smith is ready to resurrect a program that is in just terrible, terrible shape right now. I want the next hire to have successful HC experience at either the FBS or FCS level. I don’t think JS is ready to take this on.
You make it sound like Riley wasn’t a part of the 28 years.
DE ended the 28 years. Nobody else did that. Everyone before that was some different variation of, “Well, there’s always next year.”
Riley did end that second year with some hope for the third. But let’s not pretend we were gullible as an NFL owner to believe that hope was anything we hadn’t seen before. The only thing different than before was that ship limits were constricted, so the blue bloods couldn’t put 150 players better than your scrubs on the sideline for home games.
The only thing Riley has done right in his whole career, related to OSU, is the timing of his pay upgrades.
The scholarship limits seem to be something the average Nebraska fan is still having a hard time understanding.
oh nooooo! another 9 win capper
I’m gonna give you some love here fwiw. He had 5 teams in the top 10 mid season. Jack/someone may bring up Maynard, who is statistically far better than Garretson. I want to see a dc who knows how to contain dt qbs; face too many these days. Kalen deboer looks pretty interesting if he came along.
The Maynard/Allen deal was because it was a dirty recruitment, and Tedford was stuck with a career-killing QB because someone had him over a barrel.
I give Riley props for telling those runners to take their Kenzel Doe and leave.
But… another example of how soft Jedford was on any principle.
Besides flipping an Alabama recruit ostensibly via his half-brother and some unfortunate injuries in 2012, were there actually any sanctions/punishment for that move? Ie. source?
Bama wasn’t going to touch him after Saban met Yelverton. Clemson was recruiting the two hard, but they were not willing to deal with Yelverton or promise Maynard anything but a roster spot. Nikegon tried to sneak Gabe King in through the back door, but they got caught and had to give up on him. They did get James Scales out of the deal.
So all three and Chris McClain ended up at Cal, and Yelverton ended up getting a job as the DC, the women’s softball coach and as a “teacher” at Contra Costa College. He’s been the DC at Co-Lin CC in Mississippi for the last couple years, so maybe he never got the “personal manager” payout from Allen when he made it to the NFL.
I guess the statute of limitations is up on his shenanigans from that time, because he did what the FBI is prosecuting in college hoops right now. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find out all the players he “mentors” now in the Juco ranks visit a lot of Nike schools.
Something that makes me wonder about the Baldwin rumors (being presented as fact): Ed Ray. He just got burned with somewhat of an unproven in GA. Most people dismiss his WI record because anyone can win there. So he only had one good year, really. They say Ed Ray and Barnes are the two making this decision. Why would Ray take a gamble on another unknown in Baldwin? It doesn’t make sense.
I wonder if Ray asked Barnes why the hell he’s consulting with Anderpants about the next hire. I also wonder if he gave him a dope slap.
I can see Ray being more enthused about Baldwin than Tedford, especially if those stories about Tedford bad-mouthing Corvallis on the recruiting rounds are true. That’s ONE question I’d ask in an interview
Please tell me i shouldnt be worried that Mark Banker recently started following several OSU alum as well as the @beaverathletics acct.
Please!!!
People are going to be begging for Baldwin…
Dude, there’s no fucking way. Not even at DC.
Banker is the reason Riley left. Riley wouldn’t get rid of him and the donors were lighting the torches and sharpening the pitch forks. And it all started around ’08. Banker will not be any part of anything Beaver football ever again.
this reminds me: I was listening to “Big Red Overreaction” last Saturday after the Penn State loss and the guys in Omaha said several interesting things about the Banker denouement in Lincoln. (1) After the season started to head south Riley got the word out (he found replacements for Lindsay, Goe, et al) that the back story to the lack of success was the absence of “coaching continuity.” (2) and more interestingly, apparently Riley didn’t fire Banker, Eichorst did when Riley refused to. He just invoked senior administrative authority. Riley merely informed Banker that he had been fired, not that he (Riley) was firing him. That helps explain the awkward circumstances: that is, Riley calling with the news rather than a face to face. It was already a fait accompli by the time Riles dialed his buddy. PS: don’t forget to tune in after Nebraska’s loss takes them to 4-8. 1620 the zone.
yes, we all should be worried, but it’s probably because he’s been approached about being a special teams coach, or a position coach like LB’s.
Is it possible Banker has been approached for some other job in the area, like PSU, EWU, et? Not sure if those schools have vacancies. He’d be good at those places, though. Not at OSU.
PSU is retaining Barnum despite the winless season. I guess they can’t afford to let him go.
Didnt they have to pay off the employee sex scandal?
I don’t know, here’s the story. Pretty muddled, but as I understand he was screwing a married employee of the university and did not report the relationship, but the husband did, so Barnum got fined.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/369607-252520-portland-state-disciplines-football-coach-bruce-barnum
I don’t get it. Isn’t the rule that you have to file consent with HR when employees choose to have a personal relationship a must in order to avoid liability?
If they can’t fire Barnum for being a meathead, they can’t fire the woman for doing the same. But retaining the two must raise some eyebrows at their insurance carrier’s office.
I also dislike that they only spoke publicly about it because it was going to be reported by a news agency. Being open and honest about it would go a lot further with boosters who may be able to help the university with better solutions.
CW thread!
What about if Baldwin is hired we get Michael Johnson as OC? Can then bring his 4-5 star QB son to OSU. Lots of options at OC. Best, Johnson, Smith and even Erickson all would have selling points.
All these people that keep being brought up for a Baldwin staff have more connections to Smith. Seems more plausible that Smith would bring these guys in.
Other than Best of course.
Anyone not on his staff at EWU or on Cal’s staff this year has more connections to Smith than Baldwin. And I wouldn’t just assume the latter because they’re coaching with him now.
There were reports that Beauner hates it in the Bay Area. I sure hope that’s not true. That would mean he doesn’t get along with fellow coaches and would be a liability in recruiting Cali. In fact, now that it’s out there, just the rumor makes him a recruiting liability.
I’d like Bronco. I think he’s a good coach.
Baldwin is also a good hire. I just worry because he’s an unknown at our level.
Smith seems like a bigger gamble. I’d be most worried if it was him for sure.
Whoever is hired needs to have a good staff. Andersen has many failings but hiring a bad staff was too much to overcome.
Latest tweet is so true. Every woman I meet who is a duck fan did not attend UO. Kinda sad.
Sprague in the latest Dam Podcast with literally 18+ minutes ranting about Twitter nonsense with some circlejerk mixed in. Sheesh! This guy might be the one person more easily triggered to go off the rails than Jack. I guess the title is “Triggered Beaver”, so….
One reason I stay off Twitter.
Heh heh… Jack isn’t stupid enough to waste more than the two minutes he did listening to that tripe.
Referring to himself in the third person?
Sure… he’s that dumb.
But wasting life then crowing about wasting life as if it’s a neat deal?
Yay!
Happy Thanksgiving angrybeavs! After the CW last year I thought the football team was on the uptick with a minor bowl on the menu for 2017. This has been an f’d up year even by OSU standards. Hoping for a miracle win to salvage something positive from this disaster.
It’s just football. It could be worse. We could be soulless and green.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Ditto Gopher.
So everybody thinks it’s Baldwin. What if it is Dave Baldwin? Huhhh?
Watch them announce Brett Bielema as our new coach Monday.
Dave Baldwin?!?!?! And a Happy Thanksgiving to you too…… Or should I say thanks for ruining my Thanksgiving. :-)
No prob. LOL.
So there is more speculation ASU job may open. Will cost ASU 12 million. They have interest in Sumlin and Baldwin. Also chance Frost goes to Florida which coild send Leach to Nebraska. WSU woild then have Baldwin in their top 2.
Oregon State will be getting Baldwin at the right time if they close this deal Sunday as some have rumored. We’ll see how the staff shakes out. Hopefully there are enough funds left after the HC deal for him to assemble the strong staff it will take to compete for upper half of the Pac-12. Could have Kelly at UCLA and Sumlin at ASU to go up against.
Why do you make shit up?
Baldwin and ASU only come up in searches together from last year when Jay Norvell was chosen over Baldwin to be Nevada’s next coach.
I see Dennis Dodd getting berated by ASU fans for suggesting Tedford. I see a majority of fans wanting him to stay. And I see a small segment running with rumors that Chip Kelly has been seen in Tempe.
Names are those Yahoo sports national writer Pete Thamel provided for each school. If you want to say he made them up then fine.
Ummm… he literally made them up.
I won’t link a Yahoo piece, because it’s Yahoo, but he essentially says there have been increasing noises about Graham leaving. Looking into it, it looks like there is one Canzano type calling for his head on their cheapo rag that links to everything TMZ-like. And there’s another that looks like he’s responding to that sentiment, if not that article. A poll by the cheapo rag is overwhelmingly in support of keeping Graham, btw.
So maybe there is a change. But I get the sense it only happens if they think they can get an upgrade. It would be hard to explain why the coach who donated his own money to your facilities needs to get $12m to walk away. So unless they have Kelly, Sumlin or maybe Norvell 100% guaranteed, they would be making a huge mistake given fan sentiment.
I do apologize for believing you made up that made up shit. But it just sounded like made up shit, and turned out to be so. Next time you should link the singular mention in all the interwebs that allows you to segue into the discussion you really want to continue to have.
Jack do us all a favor and fuck off.
Everybody else happy thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving to you, you hateful little puddle of bile.
Leach most likely stays at WSU and in chance he leaves Grinch is thought to be 1st option. Beau would be next option. Also hearing that because Chip Kelly is close friends with Phil Knight he is intrigued by ASU and not only UCLA. Thought is if he does well at UCLA it would be sour for Phil to see bitter rival Under Armor having success with an ex Duck coach. Thought of Adidas at ASU is tolerable because not same bitter aspect to the rivalry. This was posted on Footballscoop. Didn’t think this stuff would be much of a factor. With that kind of thinking just send Chip to Corvallis and anything positive won’t hurt Nike. Unless Phil is afraid of Oregon State being superior to Oregon.
Has anyone actually quoted Chip in saying this? It feels a lot like the media creating their own stories, and a school’s affiliation with any particular company isn’t going to have any influence on where Chip decides to coach.
Of course, when he chooses a non-Adidas school, the media will say that was the reason.
Yeah… they’ve sort of created a narrative that has already closed the circular logic with this one.
I suppose they could always start off his new gig by asking him if this was a major factor in his decision. That would solidify his relationship with the press.
As was already posted, that’s nonsense. If Uncle Phil had that kind of influence over CK he’d be coaching at Oregon right now.
OSU currently up on St Johns in men’s hoops. Streaming on espn
Stevie in transition is almost as painful as our football team
edit* his passing in general
They finally broke a press with a long pass and dunk.
Game also on ESPNU.
Thompson bro’s leading St. John’s in assts.
Team is careless with the ball.
Still. Why is that? Why has WT failed to address this, year after year? So infuriating. GPIII and duvivier were ok but since their departure…
It’s simply conditioning. You play like you practice, and our team does not play like they run any drills on just about anything.
Beavs hoops blows it at the end.
I knew these guys would be bad. Low IQ team.
They gagged away that game.
So much talent, so mediocre.
They call that bad coaching.
I think the previous coach fell under that category also. Sigh………
Wilted under pressure. Our guard play is not stellar.
Still pathetic, go beavs
another dry spell to close out a game. lacking leadership.
What the eff happened? I was checking in a little but mostly watching the Lions/Viks, Beavs were up 62-52 and I come back and they are down 5. I recorded the game, but I doubt I will watch it. I’m guessing 20 plus turnovers again? It will be a tough CBI decision at the end of the season!
Tinkle failed to get a legit point guard for three years running. He is to PG what GA is to QB.
If Baldwin is happy at Cal, according to the twitter account, then is he out of the running and we have a smoke screen from everyone pushing his name out there?
I hope for Ken Norton Jr as a surprise hire, and an allstar team of coaches with a mix of NFL, former OSU alums in coaching, west coast guys from LA market all surrounding Norton
I don’t know if I would put much credence behind Baldwin’s tweet. I took it as the obligatory Thanksgiving message that gets sent out this time of year. Then again, maybe talks fell apart with the administration. I guess we will know when we know at this point.
“He is to PG what GA is to QB.” Hmmm. Reminds me of one of the drug company ads on the evening news.
No legs, no spacing, no D.
And for the fans, no lsd?
Are you talking about the 17 fans that were at this ESPN created event? How in the hell do these things make money? I remember going to a Far West Classic game as a kid and Memorial Coliseum was actually full.
Many good memories of the FWC, some high caliber visiting teams and a not to shabby OSU back then.
Supposedly a cure for depression… apropos
So PSU is building a new basketball arena with lots of glass and Park Block views and is hanging with Duke while Tinks lays another stinker.
Time for expectations at OSU. Short of 18 wins this year Beavs shoild consider cutting bait and getting coach Barret Peery from PSU.
And more tartan!
“Tinks lays another stinker”
Has he been eating 18 eggs a day with PUbanks?
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Even our resident nutjobs :-)
Men’s team does not have the stamina to run the floor at that pace for 40 minutes. Strength and conditioning coach needs to be fired ASAP. Hell, I’ll just make the men’s team run for an hour up and down Witham Hill for a dollar.
It doesn’t take a S&C coach. It takes a coach.
You don’t install crap until you drill the lazy days of summer out of them.
jax, how many wind sprints does it take to be a man?
Telling that you don’t think women can do wind sprints.
That’s what an S&C coach does, or at least what mine did in high school. Run, bike, swim, bodyweight exercises all summer until the end of October.
You mean a long time ago, in a place far away?
~6 years ago, 2500 miles away, so you’re batting .500
Did s/he make you run half court and full court passing and break drills, restarting the clock if the ball hit the floor? Did s/he make you run shell drills until you could do them with your eyes closed, knowing where the O and your teammates were by the sound of their shoes and breathing? Did s/he line you up and make you do board tips until you couldn’t lift your arms over your head any more… and then make you shoot FTs to cool down? Did you run progressions for the 3-2, 4 low, 4 high, 5 open, 2-3 and 1-4 until you were dreaming about them? Did yourun single and complex picks over and over and over until coach… sorry… strength coach was satisfied that you could properly read a pop, a roll or a crash?
Being in good condition and being conditioned are two completely different things. It’s a sort of play smarter, not harder kind of thing. You’re not wrong that being in shape is important. If they’re not in shape, then Tinks should be raising holy hell and compensating by getting them in shape. Sorry, but fuck the non-con if your team isn’t in shape.
But that’s not it. They’re inefficient. They’re spending 1.5 games-worth of energy by running around like chickens with their heads cut off. They do this because they have zero spacing on either end. Only a couple of them even flinch, let alone move properly when a shot goes up.
These are things which are conditioned. They mitigate faults by cutting out the wasted movement and having your players instinctively in the correct places.
When you see Pat Casey standing on the steps and pointing this way and that, and his fielders move according to his directions… that’s conditioning. But timed sports necessitate repetitious practice in order to naturally convey a coach’s wishes.
In this case, it’s a lack of. And it’s obvious.
In short, it takes a hoops coach to teach proper conditioning. Until now, I didn’t know it took a good one, and I’m a little pissed about it.
The most hated drill was easily bear crawling, but it absolutely worked because other teams did not do it to the extent my coach tortured. I liked the shell drills because I was used to running from soccer, but bear crawls were loathed. Same with jumping in front of a wall and reaching upwards.
The team lacks the ability to space themselves properly on the court. That appears to be a certain breakdown from Tinkle and his assistants. I am hopeful that this will be a focus going forward for the team to improve on because the time for better conditioning has passed.
I had one who did both bear crawls and duck walks.
That coach was a .215 winner.
You don’t beat your team by trying to injure them. You beat them by reminding them they are a team.
In case you wonder why anyone would hire a career .215 winner, it was for all the same stale reasons.
He was connected to the culture and region. He was a winner on a lower level. Nobody thought for a second to ask any questions beyond that… until they saw a winning team disappear.
Nobody was wondering why your high school back in 1974 hired a .215 winner.
Thanks though!
And nobody cared when OSU went out and got someone tied to the culture and region and who was a winning coach on a lower level.
Thanks, though.
And it was 1977.
I’m not that old.
Zags in black is abhorrent–a sin against whatever the opposite of a sin was contrived to be.
It also didn’t escape me today that Marcus Lovett looked exactly like he did when he was a sixth grader.
Cal plays their final regular season game tonight vs UCLA. If they win, they are bowl eligible, but they are not favored. Most likely their season ends tonight, and from there I would expect the Baldwin rumors to pick up steam.
The Beauner rumors aren’t (and haven’t been) at saturation levels?
Great.
They’ve only been at semi-chub levels so far. I’m expecting raging Beauner rumors this evening. I can see the headlines now:
“GIGANTIC BEAUNER NEWS!!”
Tinkle has really f’d up by not signing a PG for next year. JM is not a point. ST is a turnover machine.
The JC kid is semi worthless. Tinkle has set the table for failure.
Does he not see the problem?
Is he stubbornly trying to prove he did not screw up recruiting that position?
Has he tried and struck out?
People seem to forget even in those five or six games Tinkle played last season, the team was a turnover machine and they lost games they should not have. 21 turnovers is ridiculous. The are like the football equivalent of a team that gains 500 yards, but always have four turnovers and lose. I don’t know how you fix it. The guards don’t look any stronger and their games are still so inconsistent. Probably goes to Jack’s observations about endurance and fitness.
Fess up. Who had pie for breakfast?
Apple
Apple. With cool whip.
https://youtu.be/7ZmqJQ-nc_s
I had a pumpkin spice cupcake. Does that count?
My damn in-laws apparently pounded the last of the pie.
Always insist on cleaning up and then stash a piece. Never leave pie to chance.
pumpkin cheescake….mmmmm
Turkey and mash with bacon crumbles and a fried egg on top.
But I’m eyeing that pecan pie.
That sounds really good. Pecan Pie is long gone, but that’s the drawback of not hosting our own dinner this year. No fried mash potatoes either!
Huckleberry
Dead Riley walking today? Nebraska media is laying it on thick about how nice he is/was, they are going to miss him. Average Husker fan, not so much.
Some different news:
http://koin.com/2017/11/24/oregon-state-leasing-space-in-historic-portland-building/
Anyone have a good link to the basketball game? Supposed to be on ESPN3 but I get sound only and now even that’s not working,
http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=193283
Just watch Miami at Pitt on ABC.
LBST was crushed by the two good teams they played in this tournament. Not a good sign for our Beavs.
Another uninspired half of Beav”s hoops. Double digit turnovers again, but after being down 10 they got it together enough for a 29-29 tie against a team that lost by 30 to Mizzou.
CHECK IN NOW FOR YOUR FLIGHT
Passenger: Riley, Michael Joseph
Southwest Air Flight 359 Departs: 8:00 PM CMT DATE: 11-24-17
FROM: Nebraska-Lincoln Airport LNC
TO: San Antonio International SAT
SEAT: 27D
JP, are you going to do the right Beaver thing and offer MR a job with your consulting firm?
Thank god he is not on the flight to PDX!
I swear, if the team loses to Long Beach I am done with OSU basketball this year. Such a huge disappointment.
Much of the time on the court, the Beavs have three Top 100 players, correct? Something is not connecting with this team.
Oh man!
Pitt?
Just like at Georgia. He has a knack for the devastating loss.
Third and 8 with about six minutes left, and the pass bounces off the defender’s hands to the receiver five yards beyond him.
This Pickett kid is impressive. He’s a strong runner.
Watching the tcu vs Baylor football game. I wish we could play Baylor, might be able to beat them. Also a huge fight broke out and the refs literally gave every player on both teams a personal foul.
Baylor would destroy us. Too much speed and athleticism.
Are Ducks really this butthurt and dumb?
http://registerguard.com/rg/sports/36178768-81/civil-war-of-words-add-intrigue-to-oregon-ducks-rivalry-game-with-oregon-state.html.csp
I like how Spriggs is saying that Hall’s description of events last year were accurate, but it still makes him mad? Ok…….
Yeah… and the reporter makes the rest sound strangely like they have a crisis about their identity.
Noting correctly that your opponent from last year was not prepared to play you at that moment in time is like hating on a ladies man?
What?
Yes, but apparently Hall was jealous of the cool Duck rain slicks or something. Hey, rain gear is a better identity than nothing, I guess? Fake news can actually be factual, who knew?
Dux are bunch of pussies.
Looks like it was a good day to not have a televised hoops game… except that we could have been playing in one if we just bothered to play some second half hoops.
Coaching!
Looks like I chose a good year to give up my hoops tickets.
Going to be a long year for hoops. I had hopes that we could make a run at the tourney and settle for the NIT. Time to kiss those goodbye.
After today’s loss, I don’t see the Beavs winning more than 10 games.
RealTime RPI predicts the Beavers winning 7 games this season and going 1-17 in league. I thought “no way”, but after these first 5 games I’m not so sue….
*not so sure*
Beaver sports make me sad :-(
Yeah, women’s basketball and baseball are huge disappointments….
Most Beaver sports make me sad :-(
Yeah, volleyball, wrestling, gymnastics, men’s rowing and softball must make you sad as well.
Management of the major sports is amongst the worst in the P5. Failed to get in PK80 over UP and PSU, football sucks, basketball sucks and facilties among worst in conference.
Ed Ray is way over his head as a Sports CEO. Do something to get on the national map already. Frustrating. Both Football and Basketball are currently completely irrelevant.
They didn’t fail to get in over UP or PSU, they failed to get in over Oregon and Stanford. Which made perfect sense. The tournament would have needed a 3rd bracket to invite a 3rd PAC school which is why OSU was left out.
The NCAA rule says two teams per conference but the announcers last night said PK80 was really two separate 8 team tournaments. The Victory and Motion divisions each have their own champion and there is no cross play amongst the two groups.
So if 8 team Far West Classic could have OSU and UO then the only real reason the two 8 team tourneys can’t have 4 Pac-12 teams is because Phil united them under 1 “PK80” banner. Could have called the Motion one at Memorial Coliseum the Far West Classic and let OSU run that one while the other 8 team PK80 went on and Beavs could have invited the Cougs or Cal.
For future years if this PK80 is a one year deal, then return an 8 team Far West Classic with UO’s help. Ducks and Beavers hosting a first class 8 team event with one champion as it should be.
The actual rule is you can only have 1 per conference, by splitting it into 2 tourneys they were allowed to invite 2
The Far West Classic would no longer be allowed to invite both UO and OSU in 1 bracket, that rule was changed. 1 team per conference now.
Sounds like chip to ucla. Could be scary
I’d prefer he comes to UCLA for a few reasons.
1. It makes the conference more interesting.
2. It’s almost an F U to nike.
3. It will piss off duck fans. (same as 2. I guess)
4. F the SEC
His agent has strong connection with ucla….it’s a lock for the bruins.
I think Chip going to UCLA is good for the conference, even indirectly so for OSU. Not that we would ever beat a Kelly coached UCLA team, but he would equalize the power structure in the league (of which OSU is not a part), distributing another 4-5 losses per year amongst UW, UO, Stanford, SC.
Countdown to hole Fan’s “we didn’t want him back anyway, we’re so much better off with fortune cookie” in 3…..2……1….
Loss of Derrick Bruce was just brutal… I feel we’d be a different team with him at PG atm
WT is now 7-30 in games without GP-2. He now has three top 100 players in the starting line up. They don’t defend, they don’t take care of the ball and they can’t hit open 3’s. When is the breakthrough going to happen?
Also had Malcolm, LMW, Olaf and even Reid contributing.
i thought LMW was underrated, way better than anyone we have off bench now…
Olaf was valuable just that he was a stretch big guy who could get hot from deep… Big G looked like he wanted to start shooting 3s last yr, was hoping that would be part of his game coming into this yr… You almost have to let him try imo
The players you mention all seemed to play tougher for lack of a better adjective, even Victor Robbins was coming into his own before his fuck ups. GP-2 was the catalyst.
Ya VR had moments for sure… McLaughlin is a brutal miss unless there is some drastic change
I can see JM’s role for now. He’s a heat check combo off the bench. He should be getting 6-7 minutes off the bench each half. Reichle is the same with a different set of skills. Ethan and Stevie are true 2s. I’m tired of watching both on the floor in a primary line-up. Manuel gives the best effort on D and has possibly the best (or most conservative) handle.
We need a handle and a facilitator… or a couple of them.
So Jack you like starting Manuel>JM?
Seems like we might have to try that, JM just blows
Reid mostly contributed against refs….
To be fair, that ref did deserve that respect. It’s unfortunate that our guy had to do it in a game… and wasn’t white.
Yeah GP2 was essentially the MVP in the nation in terms of how much worse his team would be without him… Maybe he fooled us on Tinkle cuz he was such an absurd college player
Literally did EVERYTHING
And GP-2 was a Craig Robinson recruit!
Riley getting obliterated at home against a 6-5 Iowa team. 42-14 Hawkeyes in the third with Riles slinging it everywhere.
http://player.listenlive.co/52371
#TPB (for one more quarter, at least)
Holy shit, I was casually watching and I think it was 14-14, I come back and it’s full blow out mode.
The Nebraska radio announcers are giving Mike Parker a run for his melancholia. The color guy said he never thought he’d live to see the current state of Nebraska football and amazed at far the program has deteriorated in just three years. Today’s Big Red Overreaction (1620 the zone) should be Gold, so to speak. Those Lucky Bastards: their long ordeal is over.
The Buffalo Bulls are bowl eligible for the third time in history, and Danny Langsdorf still calls three yard passes on 3rd or 4th and 6.
… after clock mismanagement costs them five yards on 4th and 1.
That loss is going to cause Solich to hit the bottle again!
Nebraska talk radio guy saying Huskers should one-up Arkansas, who fired Bielema walking off the field, and tell Riley he’s canned with one minute left
Bielema axed almost immediately after the loss to Mizzou.
Well, It didn’t take long, Riley has made NU a “patsy”.. Now, NU will have to feel like OSU and find a way to rebuild. But, after Riley, it could take a long time.
BTW, look for tomorrow’s game to be closer than we think, osu 27, ukes 31
Regarding Chip, he’s a lot older now, and not the healthiest guy. His offense is also everywhere, so it’s not novel anymore. It will be interesting to see how he does. His career has been on the decline as everyone adapts to that style of play.
I kind of thought Chip might prefer Florida just to piss off Saban! Seriously, I was surprised to read all of the talk about Florida’s sub-standard facilities. What the fuck is the administration spending the money on?
Gatorade…
Chip is 53, seriously doubt his age is a concern at this point.
I don’t think his career is on a decline from people adapting, the NFL was never the place for his system. And few teams really do what he did at UO, the pace they played at has not been replicated often.
He may fail wherever he goes but I don’t think it will be due to age or people adapting to his style. It will likely be because he can’t get that pace again.
53 in number, but like 70 with that waistline.
Age is just a number. Works both ways: healthy and unhealthy.
I agree. I don’t think he’ll be as successful this go around. But, he brought a lot more than just the offensive scheme. His teams operated like machines. Getting that level of focus from a Pac 12 school is very rare.
It was never about the O. The O is just a carrier for his conditioning and speed game. He will pummel an opponent who gets stuck with the wrong personnel on the field. If his teams run into stout Ds who have speed on the edges, he has issues because he can’t keep his O on the field. And his Ds are always soft unless they can play with a lead and the age old canard that abandoning your game to go all pass happy becomes his opponent’s reality.
He couldn’t dictate to NFL players how to eat, sleep, practice and live because they were grown millionaires who had their own ideas. He can do that in college. And at UCLA he can take an Uber to visit recruits and watch them play. He can also take D players who aren’t a bunch of tweener posers in the trenches without having Nike pay handlers for their visits.
I wonder how much of a friend Daddy Phil really is to the Chipster. I wonder if the Chipster really knew he was getting paid help. It would explain a lot with his indecisive start and stops when leaving Nikegon. Remember he was naive, a green FCS coordinator. All he knew and loved was football. And that was taken away from him by people he trusted.
Latest from Football Scoop from 5 minutes ago:
Nebraska: Lars Anderson of Bleacher Report notes tonight his source tells him Scott Frost to Nebraska is a done deal. Anderson holds himself out as having deep connections to Nebraska. For what it is worth, sources tell FootballScoop Florida officials feel very confident in their ability to secure Frost as their next head coach. All of this comes after many, many coaches told FootballScoop Chip Kelly plans to choose UCLA over Florida.
I hope they get Frost. Those fans are so delusional that it will be interesting to watch their chosen one still unable to take them to the promised land.
I hope Frost goes to florida just to snub them. I mean really who would they get then? 5 bucks says they start talking about an entrenched coach like Saban, Meyers, etc.
Nebraska supposedly reached out to Chipster and was quickly told no.
Gotta ask. No embarrassment in asking just in case. Much embarrassment to find out years later that he was never asked but would have considered it.
Riley delusional as ever in his press conference. Says he knows he’s the right guy to turn things around, great group of guys, defense ready to take that next step. #TPB
It reminds me of the Naked Gun “nothing to see here scene.
https://youtu.be/pdFl__NlOpA
Ya, next step backwards
(I predict at least three dislikes on the following excerpt):
PHIL STEELE REPORT:
The Ducks are 8-1, but lost last year and the home team is 15-5. Last year the
Ducks led 24-14 mid 3Q but the Beavers scored the final 20 points eventually putting
their rivalry away after a 68/9play TD drive w/1:56 left. The Ducks are off a bye and a
home game vs Arizona while Oregon State is on a 3rd road game in 4 weeks. With Justin
Herbert at QB the Ducks are averaging 49 ppg with him and just 15 ppg without
him!! Oregon is +156 ypg at home and OSU is -163 ypg on the road. Oregon State was
+113 ypg in the first two games for interim HC Cory Hall, but are just -165 ypg the
last 3. Oregon State trailed Arizona State 30-0 last week. The Beavers are a large rivalry dog,
but I will side with the Herbert led Ducks here.
OREGON 49 OREGON STATE 20
WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL:
Oregon State QB/WR vs Oregon DB’s: ORE +0.86
Oregon State RB’s vs Oregon LB’s: ORE +1.13
Oregon State OL vs Oregon DL: ORE +0.67
WHEN OREGON HAS THE BALL:
Oregon State DL vs Oregon OL: ORE +2.39
Oregon State LB’s vs Oregon RB’s: ORE +2.89
Oregon State DB’s vs Oregon QB/WR: ORE +1.86
MISCELLANEOUS:
Special Teams: ORST +0.23
Kicking: ORST +0.16
Coaching Staff: ORE +1.50
ORST Total Points: 0.39
ORE Total Points: 11.20
Position Edge Awarded To: Oregon by 10.81
Las Vegas Line: Oregon by 25
Las Vegas Total: 62.5 Points
+/- Ratings: Oregon by 18.5
Game Grade: Oregon by 25.4
Computer Yards: Oregon 513-270
Computer Points: Oregon 44-19
PROJECTED BOX SCORE (ORST-ORE):
Rushing Yards: 98-334
Passing Yards: 172-179
Yardage Total: 270-513
Final Score: 19-44
Experience Rankings: 31-21
Team Schedule Strength: 34-48
#GoBeavs
Was out all day hiking and just saw the Riley score. Holy shit…56-14 to a middle of the road Iowa? Haha.
AB, vindicated.
There is nothing else to say…other than: eat it, Huskers who doubted us.
It was a 14-14 the at half. Riley with the awesome adjustments…….. for Iowa.
We were vindicated back in 2015. And 2016…
In our minds, but they argued with me vehemently.
It seemed so simple to them, he did “more with less” ( God, I hate that phrase) at OSU, so logic would dictate that the sky would be the limit with NU’s riches! We tried to tell them that if he had been a better coach, he would have achieved some championships at OSU, but they would not listen.
No one wants to admit they’re a poor bastard. Took us 2+ years…
*3+… 4+… probably more.
I don’t know……Riley’s crazy like a fox, lifetime contract from the Beavs, now golden parachute from the Huskers. Talk about smart retirement planning!
He made out like a bandit.
yep. TPB. Here’s a digest of top 10 comments from last “Big Red Overreaction” post game call in show in the Riley era.
1) Riley sounded drunk during his post game presser
2) Riley talks like he just took over the program in year 1 and not year 3
3) caller feels sorry for Riley–he’s clueless
4) $25 million to buy out Riley and his assistants plus Eichorst
5) The next Nebby coach has to have a good line coach. (take that, Cav)
6) Nebraska just concluded its worst season since 1957. (Heck, OSU is only going back to ’81)
7) Team was closer to going to 2-10 than they were 6-6.
8) Runs stats today: Iowa 313; Nebraska 67. Riley in post game comments talks about needing to run more “next year”
9) Nebraska D–gives up 50+ points for the most games in history
10) when Riley was hired doubters said he was a “.500 coach.” Final record at N: 19-19
It would be so awesome if NU can’t get Frost so they decide to give Riley one more year. Nebby fans might jump off of buildings.
“But this is a good team! I’m tired of talking about Michigan like we’re talking about Oregon State!” – Petros Papadakis
Ouch.
Came home from the store to find a man in my living room talking to himself, interspersed with violent outbursts of cussing and physical fits. Did a mental patient escape from the hospital and break into my house? No, it was just my older brother watching Mike Riley’s opus magnum for his stay in Lincoln. When I left it was 14-14! Ha.
Another consideration to think about. If leach were to take another job, wsu would go hard after Baldwin. Maybe a reason why Barnes would want to make the hire sooner. When all the coaching musical chairs ends, the beavs would be the one left standing.
Thanks for the attempt at the positive scenario, but I’m afraid we’re stuck with Beauner.
Time to make the best of it, Jack. Look if it doesn’t work, you will have plenty of material over the course of the next two or three years.
The best of it is waiting two years for you all to catch up to reality and start wondering who our next coach is going to be.
Or we can all talk about how we’re going to out-recruit 85% of college football who runs the same O.
I suggest we just put some soft traffic cones out for D and concentrate on recruiting the O. That’s what most Ds look like when an O genius is at the helm.
I would have preferred a hire with proven FBS experience, but I guess there are none out there with interest.
None with interest?
What?
I can believe Joe Rudolph politely said no because of the perception of another Wiscy coach leaving for OSU. I would hope we had the wisdom to not bother asking.
Other than that, it’s a fucking good job if you can get it.
There is stuff out there that if Moos does not land Frost, he will turn his attention to Leach. Nebraska and Leach seem like an odd fit, but who knows.
That would be the shortest AD stint ever.
No shit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.californiagoldenblogs.com/platform/amp/2017/11/24/16698198/report-beau-baldwin-named-oregon-state-coach
Don’t know if this was on the thread. I am ok if this is true. I was able to see beau when I was living in Spokane.
Since SB Nation was linked, odds are it’s very untrue.
But they might beat the odds by just rewording the valid source they did provide.
http://footballscoop.com/news/sources-beau-baldwin-oregon-state-head-coach/
Literally the first commentor (Is that a word? Is commentator a word? What’s a commentate?) has zero clue about Cal’s financial reality.
Baldwin to Oregon State. New thread up.