06.Dec.2017 Whew…

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Another day, another Jonathan Riley dodge: https://twitter.com/SiddFinch4/status/938492799342833665

(although, maybe not, depending what a “mentor” does in this situation)…

Go Beavs.

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  • Alpha Alpha says:
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    Thank god

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Second.

  • angry angry says:
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    Does anyone have a clue what does a mentor do in a situation like this?
    Give me some precedent where this happened and it worked out well.

    https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/938502556493299712

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Didnt Crowton mentor McGiven…..oh yeah….nevermind

    • GreatSwammi says:
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      Drop the I hate Riley campaign….it’s getting stale. We get it..
      You don’t want him anywhere around the program for good reason too. But if he’s on the outside looking in, who gives a rats ass. After all, he did develop some pretty decent QBs at OSU. Regardless, JS I’m sure is smart enough to think for himself and to recruit and develop the type of QB that will fit his system….at least give JS a shot to show what he can do with or without MR mentoring.

      • angry angry says:
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        You’re free to start your own website and discuss any topic that interests you.

        • GreatSwammi says:
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          It’s your website but what’s the point in beating a dead horse over and over? I frontline Riley anymore than you do but this isn’t about Riley…..it’s about JS and the program he builds at OSU. Plus, don’t you think prospective recruits that are considering OSU visit and read beaver blog site like this one….it could have a negative impact on the views of the OSU program. If JS chooses Riley in some capacity, for better or worse, then I trust his knowledge and college football experience to male that decision. No hard feelings Angry just thought I’d throw in my two cents for what it’s worth.

          • angry angry says:
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            No problem.

            I’d hope recruits aren’t making decisions based off any blog or media outlet.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            If 9 hires Riley, then I dismiss his knowledge and experience as fatally flawed.

            But I also never suspected he would hire Bikey because he intimated as much in his initial presser… and he has common sense.

            The dead horse beating is annoying because the dead horse is imaginary.

    • blackbug says:
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      Jeff Tedford at Washington with Smith in the past.

  • dwill03 dwill03 says:
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    If true, hopefully just guidance on program issues Smith hasn’t had to deal with before.

    For instance: say you’re trying to turn around a struggling program. You get wind that a couple of your starters participate in a gang rape. Riley has first hand knowledge and should be able to advise Smith to turn the issue over to the University to deal with rather then do the young Riley thing which is ignore and hope it goes away.

    • angry angry says:
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      That’s a fair answer. I was hoping for something more along the lines of “He’ll map out the nearest In-N-Out Burgers”…

      If it’s consulting with administrative and disciplinary stuff, it’s not ideal but something I could deal with. If he’s teaching him how to make coaching decisions, no.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Canzano’s busy penning his next Brenda Tracy piece

    • GreatSwammi says:
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      Buy first, Dolphin Boy must visit one of his paying sponsors….the dolphinII strip club…I doubt 750 the game had dropped them….crapzano is such a two faced hypocrite…hectares exploitation of women but doesn’t mind getting paid by a sponsor that does just that..exploits women…he’s a creep of the worst kind.

  • Bill says:
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    With the ducks losing Taggart, it’s definitely going to create an over reaction that will haunt them. The new coach will easily command over 3 million a year since the ducks offered Taggart 4 mil in the extension.

    New coach will have a prohibitive buyout. But when the coach turns bad, it’ll cost oregon a ton of money to buy him out. I see them also going with an older coach after being burned by a young one.

    Kind of feel like tedford might try to jump in. Good choice for the beavs. Lowest ceiling of all the potential candidates.

    • angry angry says:
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      I think Tedford or Sumlin. I don’t view either as scary. I know people love Sumlin, but he was steadily downhill from 11 wins to 7. Ranked his first 2 years to no ranking his final 4 years. So, I’m not really sure why people love him. Four years of mediocrity is a lot at a school with huge resources. Tedford is solid. He’d be a lot like Belotti. Solid but not scary.

      • Bill says:
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        Tedfords best finish in the pac 10, got him the the holiday bowl. That’s his ceiling. Hopefully they hire him.

  • angry angry says:
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    Heard Riley has “A corner office of some sort” from a player’s father.
    I’m not sure we’re out of the woods yet.

    Guess at this point it’s sit and wait.

    https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/938513425130336256

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Job postings for assitants close today and we are hosting recruits this weekend. The names will be announced soon enough since recruits start arriving Friday

    • Cake says:
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      >Heard Riley has “A corner office of some sort” from a player’s father.

      Do you believe everything you hear or what? You know, people lie on the internet.

      Sounds like the facts are, he took a tour of the VFC, since he’d never seen it before. Big fucking deal.

      • angry angry says:
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        Everything? I hear many things on a given day. If you’re asking if I trust this player’s dad, yes.

        • Cake says:
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          Mike Riley does not have a corner office. He doesn’t have any office.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Oh thats where you’re wrong. Mike has a permanent corner office in Angrys head…………;)

          • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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            @ Cake: Re riley having an office: How do you know this?

          • angry angry says:
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            Good.

        • Darsh54 says:
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          Scary that player’s parents confide in you. You “hear” many things, yet never spill your beans. Anyone could create a website and say they heard this, or they heard that. Unfortunately, for some odd reason, you have gained credibility. Which is why your anti Riley rant on twitter, to outsiders that have no clue about Oregon State, is the only thing sapping energy and momentum from the program.

          That’s cool, it’s in your best interest to have a shitty program, your brand is based off being angry, you should change it to BitterBitchyBeavs.com though. It fits your personality better.

          • angry angry says:
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            How is it in my best interest to have a shitty program? I make zero income from this site. You’d be correct if I ever ran ads or anything that depended on hits/metrics, but I don’t. It’s in my worst interest to have a shitty program because I’m a fan of said shitty program.

          • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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            You get an unknown amount in donations to cover an unknown amount in costs. There certainly could be some profit there. We wouldn’t know.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Mike Riley returning to OSU in a paid position of any kind is a non-starter.

            Those who would ignore simple ethics and start anyway sap as much or more energy and momentum from the program as angry’s fishing quest. Outsiders think we’re fool enough to do it a third time because we were chumps for round two. We’re a punchline. We’re a lovable doormat because the nicest guy in college football is expected to treat us like his doormat.

            If you’re not too concerned about it, it also makes Riley look like a dick. I happen to think the one person who knows best that Mike Riley can’t come back to OSU is Mike Riley. I think that because I think he’s a decent person, not some dick looking for chumps to take him back.

          • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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            Darsh, a one win season might have sapped energy and momentum. Just a thought.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    OT: SLICK WILLIE
    Many are now seeing through the fortune cookie man, Austin Meek with a piece in the RG headed, “Taggart struggles with truth”.

    More significant is this tweet from Troy Dye (a heck of a defensive player, IMHO)

    “He lied straight to my dads face in my living room Thursday night. He didn’t keep his word to me Monday. Lost all my respect.”

    • angry angry says:
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      Another win for AB. Called that dude day 1.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        Dye is a team leader who will be around for another couple years, could be a hard sell for someone like Sumlin.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Dye will enter the draft early. He’s too good a player to be stuck in college ball.

  • Bill says:
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    It’s reported that the duck players want Cristobal as the next head coach. I’m all for that. Terrible record as a head coach. This is why players should not choose the coach after the current one leaves. They just want the one who is buddy buddy with them not what’s best for the program.

    Looking at his hc record, he inherited a mess, had two winning seasons and left fiu basically where it was when he started. He’s all recruiting and no coaching.

    So ducks should hire him or tedford. Both limited ceilings.

    I’d question his recruiting ability too since it appears he needs a school with lots of money to get the job done.

    • angry angry says:
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      They’re talking about the hire solely around keeping that recruiting class intact. Really bad reason to hire a coach. And who even knows if those players will fit the new coach’s philosophy? I don’t see a great candidate for them. All the names are unimpressive. Sumlin is meh, Miles isn’t a cultural fit, Tedford is Bellotti 2.0, etc.

      • JockItch JockItch says:
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        Didn’t they promote Helfrich based on keeping the class intact — keeping “stability”….?

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          That, and he could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. Just the kind of yes man Phil likes.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Cristobal would please this oldbeav; no ties to this region along with your points.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Let’s say they do hire Cristobal, but Leavitt heads to FSU. Cristobal then needs to hire a new OC and DC in short order while losing any other support staff Willie took with him. That’s a tall order on short notice if the expectation is to keep the class as together if possible.
      I just dont see oregon doing that.
      I do, however, see them possibly poaching Wilcox/Baldwin as a packaged deal. seems safe given how late in the process they already are.

      Hopefully they get desperate and sign McElwain

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        When you look into your cristobal, what’s it say?

  • Bill says:
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    Leavitt accepted the DC job at FSU already.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Leavitt is in a tricky position. His contract with Oregon won’t allow him to contact other teams(except Kansas State) until the season ends, or he’ll be in breach of contract.
      So, he has to stay at Oregon until they either tell him he can leave, or the season ends. So even though we all know he will get the FSU job, he can’t get it yet unless he wants to leave money on the table.

      But then oregon is left having a guy falsely representing their best interests in recruiting for the rest of the season.
      Just like our assistant coaches, he’s in no man’s land right now, except at least he’s allowed to show up at the office.

      • ReverendBeav says:
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        I’m wondering if Keith Hayward is in the same situation since its been quiet on that front and many projected he would come home as DC.

  • scotty says:
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    So much salt over in quackville, I can use it to season the popcorn I’m munching on while watching the aquackalypse

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I’m curious.

      I see a lot of people using the terms salt and salty in ways that are incorrect. What do you think it means so that you would use it incorrectly?

      • cj cj says:
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        Gammar lesson ready for us?

        • Jack Jack says:
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          Gammar?

          It’s a word that has a literal meaning (the seasoning), a secondary meaning (a sailor who has spent a long time at sea) and can be used loosely to mean hardened experience.

          The use of it above only comes close to making sense with the literal meaning, and it’s not really that close. Vinegar would be closer.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Is there a meaning that had to do with the value of the seasoning in past eras, like worth his weight in salt? Does so much salt mean they are wealthy?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            Lighten up and don’t be such a douche

          • Jack Jack says:
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            How so?

            Is there some mystery meaning to salt/salty that has crept into the lexicon?

            It’s a serious question. It’s been a sudden occurrence for me, and I feel someone here can actually answer my question. Improper use of a word causes confusion, does it not?

            It also makes me think immediately that the person using it doesn’t know wurdz.

            It appears youngsters are using salty as a replacement for dread, agitation or angst. So where does that leave the true definition of it, as it’s been used correctly for generations?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Why is asking a simple question a sign of… umm… saltiness, btw?

            Does it cause you discomfort when someone asks a sincere question for clarification?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            whiskey,

            Why were you triggered by a sincere question?

            Do you normally respond to people in this way?

          • Jack Jack says:
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            There’s not much to find out there. It seems the users of the term are as confused as I am about it.
            https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/2w0t08/whats_the_origin_of_the_slang_term_salty/

          • Jack Jack says:
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            So I apologize for thinking there was any wisdom here, and I apologize to whiskey for triggering his insecurity.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            For someone who claims to be soooooo much smarter than everyone else, that one went over your head? I give you a belt high meat pitch right down the middle and you just watched it go by.

            Hint: Look up the ingredients of an actual douche

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I apologize for not knowing the ingredients for a douche, rather thinking you were using the pejorative.

            I should have known, because you never use pejoratives.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Been pretty quiet in Beaverville today. It’s almost like they’re preparing to announce something.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    I have it on good authority that Riley is back in Corvallis because he wants another grandchild.

    • gobeavers92 says:
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      We have a winner!!!!!!

    • angry angry says:
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      I saw in the other thread where you said they’re all calling me crazy on that other site.
      Whatever. I think it’s crazy to welcome Riley back and defer to authority as a default position. If they think that’s crazy, then I’m batshit.

    • marcodg marcodg says:
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      Will him being in Corvallis affect the probability of that happening? That’s a bit on the creepy side.

      In the same vein, I once had a boss that met his wife at his dad’s funeral. . She was the widow. Kind of gives a whole new dimension to the phrase, “oh honey, you’re just like your father.”

      • AfghanBeav AfghanBeav says:
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        His daughter was impregnated by a member of his football team, I’m guessing he’s making a joke about his daughter trolling for a new man.

  • Scooter says:
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    How Did Cookus Special teams do the last 2 years ?

    • marcodg marcodg says:
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      I think both punt and kickoff coverage teams were pretty good (37 and 26 nationally respectively last year). No punt return touchdowns (and we punted a lot). Returns were a different story (unranked [>50] on both counts). Specialists were not great. But, these latter two categories have more to do with talent at the returner and specialist positions.

    • Bill says:
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      I don’t think you can credit anything to Cookus. He wasn’t an on the field coach in games or in practice. All he could do was give notes to the coaching staff. They were the ones calling the plays.

  • PdX says:
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    Has anybody watched the Netflix documentary “Icarus” that basically led to Russia being banned for the 2018 olympics?

    The Russian scientist that led the doping ring, Grigory Rodchenkov, is wearing a Oregon Ducks lanyard in it. Why in the hell would he have that?

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Is it possible Steven Jackson could come in to coach running backs?
    Its the one position i havent heard a single coaching rumor for. What is he doing these days anyway?

    • Cake says:
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      Well, Steven Jackson is Jonathan smith’s most recent follow on Twitter. That’s something?

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        That’s what got me curious. Smith hasnt tipped his hand by following anybody yet, since being hired, so I’d be surprised he chose now to do so.
        That would be a splashy hire, although I dont know that Jackson has any experience coaching.

        ” All right kids, first, make yourself bigger, stronger and faster than everybody else. Then, run over, around and through everybody. It’s easy!”

        • angry angry says:
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          Ever hear Jackson in interviews? Very bright and talented for a football player.

          He is an artist and many other things, so I doubt he wants to coach.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            Certainly doesnt seem likely he would want to waste his time

        • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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          JS hasn’t tipped off anyone because GA hasn’t shared his text contacts to him yet.

          • JacksAngryVagina says:
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            I wish Gary would drunk text me….I’d be on my way!

          • Jack Jack says:
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            And… here we go again….

          • Jack Jack says:
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            What do we want to talk about today?

            Do we want to talk about the time the Trumpster fire took away health care from his nephew, knowing it would adversely affect the care his infant son was receiving? That’s right, Dumbshit Donald also uses sick infants related to him as tools of destruction, because Dumbshit Donald is that kind of, and I use this next term very loosely, person.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Looks like Reggie Hughes(Asu commit, 4* LB) might be visiting with teammate, Nikko Hall(3*/4* Safety/WR) this weekend. (Hughes not confirmed yet)

    • Beav in DE says:
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      Seems like inopportune timing if we don’t have assistants lined up yet. I guess Hughes’ position coach may be there if Bray is officially hired by then.

  • 2funny says:
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    Really have to ask yourself about AB – blocks a Beaver Fan on the twitter (@OrangeandWitty)…
    I knew Angry was a yuck all along…

    Peruse this site and his twitter at your own risk – he’s not a Beaver fan…

    • JacksAngryVagina says:
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      I have it on good authority he is!
      :*

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Snowflake wants to pick an internet fight.

        How long before I have Snowflake crying?

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Is there some mystery meaning to snowflake that has crept into the lexicon?

          It’s a serious question. It’s been a sudden occurrence for me, and I feel someone here can actually answer my question. Improper use of a word causes confusion, does it not?

          It also makes me think immediately that the person using it doesn’t know wurdz.

          It appears youngsters are using snowflake as a replacement for, what, yuppy? So where does that leave the true definition of it, as it’s been used correctly for generations?

          LOL

          • Jack Jack says:
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            It has been sudden.

            But it’s also ironic that hyper-sensitive white males have proliferated the use of that word, pussy, alpha/beta et al since they are the epitomes of the alt-meanings which they describe.

            Talk about a swing and a miss. White supremacists made more sense when they were whining about the Bilderbergers, not that they’ve stopped doing that as well.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Take POTUS turning a Medal of Honor ceremony into a spiteful, racist joke. Old Bone Spur sure has respect for veterans.

            Right?

            Old Bone Spur is a man’s man who would be a man’s man even if he wasn’t born with a silver spoon up his ass.

            There’s so much respect for military service oozing from Old Bone Spur that it’s starting to rival all the winning.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Maybe we should talk about why Dumbshit Donnie was at least bright enough to not bash the Clintons over their collective head with Jeffrey Epstein.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            The last certainly explains why he’s so comfortable marching 76 trombones past the graveyard when talking about Roy Moore.

    • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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      Hahahahaha

    • BeaverQB BeaverQB says:
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      Maybe he just didn’t think that they were all that witty…

    • scotty says:
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      *eyeroll*

  • gobeavers92 says:
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    Looks like Jack is off the meds again today. It sure is nice to only see his name an a X next to it.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Have I been incorrect?

      Or are you talking about me standing up to an internet bully with a potty mouth by talking about the most vile thing I can think of?

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Or are yu the kind who can dish it but can’t take it.

      *sniffles*

      • Jack Jack says:
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        … because here you are both whining and dishing… and bragging that you don’t have to pay any consequences for your weakness.

  • Sparkyd73 says:
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    Here is how I see this issue of Angry calling JS Jonathan Riley. It is clear that you hold Riley as the worst coach in the history of college football. Many of us who were ready for riley to leave as head coach for OSU can separate that from riley as a football knowledgeable person that might be able to help a young JS. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not wanting riley back but I do want JS to create his staff based on his terms. When Angry links JS with riley as being the same and then beats the drum over and over and over it creates a bias that people will be looking either to prove it wrong or right. When you are looking at a situation with a bias you typically will see what you are looking for. Therefore, the narrative becomes a self fulfilling truth. Then those that don’t have the same bias will be called names until they either leave or just go quiet. So, short of turning OSU into a top ten perennial team Jonathan Smith will be a failure and be mocked on this site. I really like this site because of the information that is shared, but from what I’ve seen over the last couple of years is that Angry may have jumped the shark.

    • Ripper says:
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      Well said; agree.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I’m not going to argue against the head-scratching over angry’s hyperbole while tilting at windmills.

      But 9 is an employee of OSU, and as such has an obligation to hire only people OSU would hire. MR, GA and DE are on the list of those ineligible for rehire, so he will not hire any of them.

      I will note that I considered briefly allowing DE to return but was immediately relieved when I heard 9 laugh that off. When he did that, it clarified why allowing your standards to slip even a little was allowing your standards to slip. It would have been the wrong thing to do.

  • Bill says:
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    What’s with the players parent hate for cookus? He wasn’t an on the field coach. He couldn’t coach them in games, practice or in meetings. He was there to help the other coaches. Really how much interaction could a player have with him?

    • tRUdAT says:
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      Angry makes sh#t up all the time and the peeps on this site bite; hook, line and sinker – he’s a yuck fan…

      • Jack Jack says:
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        source that please

      • Sparkyd73 says:
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        I don’t think angry is a Duck fan, but I don’t know if he is a Beaver fan anymore either. From what I read on here I think he has allowed this forum to take his love of sports away. I enjoy the Beavers, it allows me an escape from things that really matter. When you allow yourself to get to the point where sports can affect your real life then you need to reexamine your priorities.

        • JockItch JockItch says:
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          ^^^^^This.
          I was getting so upset during the Riley years that I had to take a break — for my family’s sake. I haven’t gone to a game in 4 years, and I don’t plan my entire weekends around the games anymore (Also, don’t like driving home late on I5 after games, and many of the games don’t fit our plans due to the TV scheduling) — I plan what we want to do, and then catch a game on TV if it happens to line up with our plans. I am still passionate about Beav sports, just have different priorities now days — and my kid doesn’t see a grumpy-pissed-off dad on the weekends.

  • JockItch JockItch says:
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    Que the nukes going off in Angry’s brain….I’m going to go puke!!!

  • ReverendBeav says:
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    It looks like Hazelton would be a big improvement at DC over Clune…

    https://wyonation.com/2017/11/scottie-hazelton-and-wyomings-defensive-turnaround/

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