I spent the weekend with a buddy who works with Tibesar’s brother at Children’s Hospital in the Twin Cities. I told him to try get some info from him about the outlook of the team and the talent and instructed his wife to hound him about it. Hopefully they talk.
Though…I agree with you based on what I’ve seen from both up to this point. Smith says that Colletto has made a big jump in that latest media interview.
I’m hoping Colletto or Blount are somehow our Kellen Moore, Luke Falk…
Which part are you disagreeing with? That Blount looked better than Luton? Or hoping that we have one of those under-recruited QBs every team but us seems to land? Not sure how you can disagree with a “hope”, so I’m guessing you like Luton.
The hope part. We dont have what you’re hoping for. If you want to hope, hope we have a run game that works and we dont pass more then 10 times a game. I’m thinking even Luton could look good handing the ball off every play.
Eggers has an opinion on which freshmen could play:
Certainly Quitoriano and Smalls, especially if Togiai isn’t ready to go. Possibly Jefferson and/or Rogers. Irish comes to mind among the wideouts. Isaac Hodgins is short (6-foot, 265) but has the ability to create some havoc at D-tackle. And 6-2, 225-pound Matthew Tago could figure in quickly at linebacker.
3-4-4 defense?…….Eggers sees a 2-4-5 or even a 2-3-6
I wouldn’t read into any of the media reports. Both sides of the ball are pretty bad so it’s easy to make the other side look good at times. Quality of competition is low.
Just like back when GA took over, lots of fluffy practice reports. Collins looked good but only because the defense was so bad.
I’m sure we’ll see plenty of reports where the new straight talking coach is now here and tells guys how it really is. Strength coach saying how the prior regime didn’t properly prepare players. Blah blah blah.
If you really want to read into practice reports, the good signs would be the defense constantly dominating the offense. Defense would be the one side that could keep the beavs close. We know the offense will struggle so if they are having success against the defense, well then prep for a lot of 50 points against games.
I look at practice reports primarily to learn a little about injuries, facts that seem odd (lookin’ at Elu’s weight, for example), and indications of discipline issues.
It shouldn’t surprise you, you’ve been saying they were the same from the time he hired Riley. You have preconditioned your ears to pick out whatever confirms your original position – human nature.
Well… you do have to hear it before you can compare.
But it shouldn’t be a surprise given they’ve been stuck together for months.
Men start thinking and speaking like each other when they have zero outside influences. So the zombie coaching, while overstated, was an apt term. Those who said an assistant wouldn’t influence the outcome or the disposition of 9 were wrong.
But it should be noted that reality is more subtle than angry makes it out to be… for now. If he says we want to run the ball then throws 50 times, 9 loses all credibility… as did the two coaches ahead of him.
Coach speak is all similar. It is left vague so that the listener can subjectively fill in the gaps without the coach actually saying anything. If JS starts talking about needing to build an identity after three losses or says that he wants to establish a balance and throw 75% then I would say you have a legit gripe. Preseason conclusions allow for your biases to creep in.
Yeah we have two 4-star receivers and decent TEs (Togia and Sharp)…really liked Sharp as a receiver out of HS. We’ll have to see what type of shape he’s in.
Edit: we also have Smalls at TE. Position of strength, it seems. Should help our bad QB and make him look a little better, whomever that winds up being.
3 reasons why should Luton start:
a) He broke his neck, and it is a neat deal for him to start
b) He gets a new OC to throw for
c) He’s really tall and can sling it like Derek Anderson
3 reasons why Blount should start:
a) He had his leg shredded 2 years ago, neat deal for him to comeback
b) He redshirted and refused to play last year
c) Pot shops vote for Blount to start
3 reasons why Colletto should start:
a) He won the big school Washington High School state championship 3(?) years ago
b) We can flood the blog with “Crazy Legs Colletto” references
c) His nickname is Heisman caliber like Johnny Football, Crazy Legs Colletto for Heisman!
My vote is for Colletto simply based on the possibility of some national attention out of him. Let the young guys start and grow.
“Lunch Pail U” needs to be transformed to “Fun Nickname U”
Luton is now “The Rifleman”
Blount is now “The Redshirt”
Colletto is “Crazy Legs”
What other nicknames would be useful for garnering some undeserved ridicule from the national press? I know they will get plenty of deserved ridicule anyway.
This season is already christened “The Return”, to what? The Return to mediocre from terrible? The Return of the Pink Panther? The Return of the Jedi? The Return of Mike Riley, a horror movie?
Luton’s nickname should be “longshanks Luton”. The guy looks like a giraffe tossing a football.
Blount should be “boneheaded Blount”…based on what I saw in 2016 he’d have like 5 good plays then one boneheaded play. Crazy Legs Colletto stands.
Still no movement in QB recruiting, despite learning Johnson is planning to sign with Penn St over a week ago. Makes me wonder, does it make sense to have your OC also be the QB coach?
If QB is the most important position in football, why don’t more teams have a dedicated QB coach who can focus on fundamentals and recruiting full time and not be hampered by having to develop a game plan and build/install a brand new offensive system for a brand new team?
Yet tight ends get their own dedicated position coach plus a graduate assistant.
Just seems like the allocation of coaching resources could be better spread out, to help development. I guess that’s where Riley’s latest departure really threw a monkey wrench into our staffing, as he could have shifted between TEs and QBs. Thanks again, Mike.
In my opinion, finding a QB who can develop into a player with a couple of years coaching isn’t wasting a scholarship. There’s value in that player serving as a backup, sideline signal caller, scout team qb.
I don’t go for the argument that a specific class just isn’t deep enough at a certain position. If every team took that approach, nobody else would be signing QBs either, but I see teams like Penn St and Arizona State already with 2 QBs in their 2019 classes.
You have a finite group of guys in any given class who will be competing for an even smaller number of available scholarships. Those players fall somewhere on a bell curve every year, and you hopefully get somebody toward the high end vs the low end.
Either way, there’s no guarantee next year’s class will be any better/deeper, and then the problem becomes even more magnified as you need to sign 2 guys to make up for striking out in 2019.
I didn’t say there was no value in a scout team/developmental QB but the player you are offering still needs to be worthy of said offer.
If you miss out on the guys you deem worthy you shouldn’t just hand out a scholarship to hand one out. If the only guys left are guys you don’t view as scholarship worthy than you can grab offer a few PWO slots instead and develop that guy while saving the scholarship for a better talent at another position of need.
Is it possible with the new NSD LOI, that they are holding a scholarship for a QB next year? perhaps a JC guy? Just a thought since a JC guy who signs in February would count towards the 2019 class, not the 2020 class. Am I mistaken in this interpretation?
I understand wanting a HS QB, but without showcasing your offense, it’s hard to sell a recruit on what you intend to run, vs what they can see you running. 2020 class should be better than the 2019 class.
Lots of changes coming down the pipeline for NCAA basketball.
According to Jeff Borzello on twitter:
The NCAA will also now allow “elite” high school and college players to be represented by an agent, while also allowing players to return to school if not selected in the NBA Draft.
“Elite” high school prospects will be identified by USA Basketball. Those players will be allowed to be represented by an agent beginning July 1 before their senior year in high school, pending the end to the one-and-done rule.
Seems to be a lot of caveats to the “HS/college players can have agents”:
– College players can hire them after any season if they request an eval from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee
– The agreement “must be terminated when the student enrolls in or returns to college.”
Here’s a new one: student-athletes can now take up to 15 official visits beginning Aug. 1 before their junior year. Can only officially visit a school once per year.
Recruiting calendar changes from the NCAA:
– Coaches can attend the NBPA Top 100 camp
– They can attend high school events last two weekends of June
– They can attend one “youth basketball event” in early July
– They can attend the NCAA/USAB/NBPA “development camps” in late July
Found this one interesting: “People charged with investigating and resolving NCAA cases can accept information established by another administrative body, including a court of law, government agency, accrediting body or a commission authorized by a school.”
The NCAA is also adding longer postseason bans (up to five years) and lifetime show-cause orders to its potential penalties.
There may be more info added later. you can find his account here:
I’m guessing the “elite” players will only be a small population of bluechippers, which doesn’t seem fair to the rest of the college kids who still can’t hire an agent without forgoing the rest of their college career……like Drew
The investigation one is interesting, because it sounds like they’re basically setting themselves up to take any findings from the current FBI probe and use those FBI findings to enforce penalties on schools, without conducting a parallel investigation. The lifetime and postseason bans also seem to be setting up for upcoming penalties they plan to enforce after the FBI probe is complete.
While everyone complained about the NCAA being inefficient in these matters, this is the first time I’ve seen the schools agree to allow the NCAA actually be efficient. I never understood the schools who complained about “onerous” this or “over-reaching” that when talking about the NCAA… other than those being dog-whistles to the stupids so they can help to pile on the false narratives.
The schools decide what the NCAA can and can’t do. It’s never been the other way around. I think the majority of schools who are losing out to the oligopoly that always forms when regulation is insufficient have finally awakened to that fact.
Other than that, I think 15 OVs is too much, even over two years (really more like 1.5 years, if that). Five in one cycle is too few. 10 seems about right.
The hiring of agents isn’t the biggest news here. The throwaway statement at the end is the big news.
Wun-n-dun is going away?
Please tell me this is true. Just make it like baseball, and we’re good to go.
I think the 1-and-done rule has been on the chopping block all year. David Silver talked about sometime recently, but I’m too lazy to look for a link.
Agree, the baseball model would be nice to see, but I don’t think that is the plan here. I think they’ve basically going back to the model they had before the 1 and done rule existed, where guys can go to the NBA at any point after high school is over, except now, the ones who are considered special, are allowed to hire temporary agents to test the waters before they make a mistake and lose out on school.
I don’t really like the special treatment for “elite” players, but at least it’s a step in the right direction.
This is an improvement but I think the baseball model still makes more sense, once you choose college you should have to stay 3 years (although I’d buy an argument for 2)
This publication is saying the Heimlich contract in Taiwan is still under review and hasn’t been rescinded up to this point, despite other reports we’ve seen. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but as of now there’s still an outside shot he could remain and play. My guess is the public pressure on the team will cause them to drop him.
A friend in Taiwan says there’s a minor uproar because of it. Apparently the Monkeys (reigning champions) know all the legalities and pursued him. Then the league tried to impose this rule, and they essentially said, “Screw off. If you can show us his criminal record, we’ll comply with your rule.”
But there are enough fans making enough noise to make it really uncomfortable. The interesting thing is that the noisiest fans are American expats.
For perfect clarity, the “they” in “they essentially said” is the Monkey management? Is Luke’s “criminal record” available somewhere? It’s off the books in Washington but not in, for example, Oregon? Given Luke’s background, I can’t imagine him in Taiwan but would hope for any start somewhere for him.
As discussed, these pre-season practice reports have very limited value. That said, Lundeberg tweets :
Jay Irvine had a pick six of Jake Luton on the second play of live 11-on-11s, but he appeared to suffer an upper body injury later on. Irvine did not return.
That’s about as Oregon State as it gets. Luton throws a pick and Irvine gets injured, on the same play. Irvine is one of those guys I’ve always had high hopes for, but he just can’t catch a break from the injury bug. Hopefully it’s nothing serious this time.
Reichner had surgery yesterday. Must be a broken bone or worse. We are unbelievably thin on the D-Line, we’ll have to play nickel base just to get 11 on the field. Week 3 @ Nevada might end up being one of our best chances for a win this year so hopefully Reichner’s back for that one, but it doesn’t sound good.
Tibesar in the KEZI interview after the first full contact practice 11 vs 11 with tackling to the ground: “I can tell you based on today’s live tackling that we’ve got a lot of work to do still”
OT: BTN did their camp visit to tOSU. Regarding the D….”It looked like the NFL combine.”
Front four is going to be a nightmare. Serious talent and depth.
It is a good read, but I don’t see how the logjam is ever broken unless the ex-wife admits on record that she coerced her daughter or made up the story (if that is what happened). Otherwise, he’s forever a child molester in most of the public’s view.
I don’t think there is since he was not convicted of anything. Hard to think of a better scenario to destroy someone’s life and have no repercussions, but I’m no legal expert.
Mannion went 3 for 11 in first half and got pulled at halftime. I wish I could blame the fact that no 1string players are playing but his throws just haven’t looked good.
To give you some perspective, nobody is saying she isn’t crazy. But this whole series about blaming her for all of it is saying that he was/is not crazy.
So it follows that he is so not crazy that he remains with her through all this while also being so honorable that he cheats on his marriage… because he’s a stable person.
She may not be the nicest/sanest of people, but that doesn’t mean he gets a pass to do (at the very least) what he admitted to doing in his pathetic apology texts.
Who knew that was going to trigger Jack? Scotty knew! :)
Text screenshots are irrelevant to the point of what angles nearly always get reported in mainstream media and which nearly never do. You can guess which bucket stories that paint an accuser as possibly anything less than a saintly paragon of honesty and justice fall into. That’s what my comment was about.
I love how you whine about getting exactly what you ask for.
Scotty at the store: Who knew they would let me walk out of the store with a jug of milk after I gave them money? Scotty knew!
I’m pretty sure any normal person who looks at a relationship that has spanned several years of abuse and his philandering can determine that neither person was in their right mind while in the relationship. But his stalking, harassing and assaulting her for two years afterward makes her the crazy one?
And those texts were only dropped once he claimed he was innocent of it all, and tOSU minions were already out in full force blaming her for everything. It was a little funny how quickly they shut up.
You’re either soft in the head, too lazy to have done a cursory review of the mutitude of evidence (that doesn’t correspond with this ^^ story), or you just want to foment the stupids in order to validate your blaming women for being victims.
Consider:
1. The dominating narrative in Columbus has bee to bash the wife from hour one. So your concerns that drunk shits who beat their wives aren’t getting a fair shake has no foundation.
2. Lynn Bruce’s whole story is essentially, “This one time, when my precious baby boy was sober, he only carefully manhandled that crazy bitch. And he says he didn’t do anything. And she became angry when she found out he was a liar and unfaithful to his vows. But I raised him right.”
3. If you think biased crap and three allegories makes your point, whatever you think your point may be, then consider this unfounded rumor. Both of these people are not well liked by the Columbus community who have to have contact with them. They’re a couple drunks who abuse each other–one emotionally, one emotionally and physically. He’s a steaming, entitled turd who was gifted a $300k job by virtue of who his grandfather is, nothing more. Any of our coaches last year would have been an upgrade over him in the skill department.
But if you want to die on that hill, by all means, charge.
Imagine this is 30 years from now, and it’s at OSU instead of tOSU. It’s Bikey’s grandson, and he’s pulling down millions solely because of that legacy. But we’re winning… and he has a neat story (if we squint hard enough)… and he’s a legacy of Mike Riley… and Trent Bray, the greatest coach in OSU history, wouldn’t just let something like this slide… because his teams win.
What kind of discussions do you think we would have here? What kind of discussions do you think the pollyannas would be having?
They are awfully sensitive. I was banned some time ago – not sure why – think it was because I questioned the O’s qualifications to make legal judgments regarding Luke.
Hey, Edmonton of the CFL has a quarterback named “Mike Reilly”, they lost last night to BC with a last drive with sloppy time management. Must be something in the name???
Agreed. With all the emphasis on player safety and universities wanting to protect themselves legally, it’s incredible people are still being hospitalized and possibly dying from exhaustion from practice. Not sure if it’s gotten worse with the coaching and NFL salary stakes being as high as they are now, or if we just hear about it more now.
Yes yes, accuse anyone who disagrees with you at all of “blaming the victims” *eyeroll* Never mind I said absolutely nothing about these people and the comments are solely about what information the media chooses to promote and what they bury.
I never said nothing happened. The article about the mothers’ thoughts and accounts of the relationship is an interesting part of the whole story, and though we know the mainstream media is having a field day reporting all things about the matter, Urban and Ohio State right now, I believed they would be leaving this out.
Reading comprehension and being rational were never your strong suits, though, Jack(s) so I forgive you.
But hey, I know how it is. When you have no real argument to make, just accuse your opponent of whatever outrageous thing you want and hope it sticks. It’s the American way, after all. You’re a true patriot!
I accuse someone blaming the victim of blaming the victim. It follows that, if she’s a crazy bitch who is solely to blame (as tOSU fan and everyone else in denial has been doing since day 2), then tOSU is headed for a wrongful termination suit. But they fired him and put Meyer on admin leave pending investigation… because you bet they’re going to bury the loudest, most stupid narrative in Columbus, Ohio.
I don’t care what you never said. This weak, analogous piece basically says it’s okay to beat and stalk your partner if you think s/he’s crazy. There is nothing more to glean from it, given the evidence, not biased analogies.
… blah blah… weak ad hominems… blah blah
You really need to expand your lexicon beyond these tired tropes. I’m not accusing you of anything. When you write with someone else’s tired ideas, you’re pegged as someone without original thought. That’s not my doing.
Outrageous!
Come on. Can’t we just go off on another one of your topics? Maybe something more related to our team? I feel dirty just talking about tOSU.
Oh… hey… did you know there were some football players at tOSU who were caught cheating on homework and exams? Apparently, the prof who brought forth the very solid concerns with evidence had to watch as they disappeared into the ether. tOSU football has a modus operandi. When they sense they’re under attack, they counter with psychological warfare. In the prof’s case, “someone” leaked personnel files related to personal therapy administered by a tOSU-chosen therapist.
If I really wanted to extend this discussion, I would play with ideas reasoning why you get sucked into this groupthink garbage ideology. I can come up with a half dozen models. Some of them are outrageous.
Given that you seek to normalize outrageous, I don’t understand your whining.
After all, this is your conversation that you chose to have here.
“Are you still going on about this?” (then proceeds to write a rambly wall of text lol)
“This weak, analogous piece basically says it’s okay to beat and stalk your partner if you think s/he’s crazy.”
I don’t think you read the same article the rest of us read. If so, you sure jump to some strange conclusions.
Didn’t bother reading the rest of your wordiarrhea, and you’ve exhausted my store of energy for stupid internet arguments for the month, so you’ll have to entertain yourself for a while (and boy do you have the imagination to.) If by some chance you get bored and need some triggers, just holler – happy to help!
Btw, angry, there’s a bug on mobile where replies keep showing up on the bottom and not in the thread. Tried 2 browsers and same thing. Doesn’t happen on desktop.
Gress up with a practice report. Includes some injury info: “Smith said cornerback Jay Irvine, who left Wednesday’s practice late and appeared to hurt his right arm,… On Friday, Irvine was sidelined with a sling. Also of note, safety David Morris was not in pads on Friday.
“Most of these guys are the typical training camp bumps and bruises,” Smith said.
The swouche is less annoying than having to have go beavs on every item. It’s more recognizable as a beaver than is the beavershark or the angry poop smear. Just put Oregon State University/OSU on it, and be done.
So, a commuter plane was stolen from seatac airport this evening and later crashed (lots of things happened before the crash and after take off). That plane was the a Alaskan/Horizon Airlines painted in Beaver colors according to flight tracker.
Because that’s what it comes up on flight tracker under the planes registration number.
Edit, I check a diffrent tracker and the plane is coming up with a normal paint job. Now I’m not sure of which is correct. I could be that this plane was at one time painted in beaver colors and was changed back without an update to tracker or one tracker doesnt show paint schemes.
Anyway some asshole stole a plane and did acrobatics with it before plowing it in to an island.
I was always told by aircraft engineers that commercial liners couldn’t stay together under the stresses of rolls or lifting off the deck like that. Only the P3 was designed to hold up under those stresses.
That was 25 to 30 years ago. But it’s still impressive the wings didn’t just fall off.
Also… 9/11 truthers can scratch the “lay people can’t fly planes… flying planes is hard” half of their argument off their manifesto. Poor Dumbshit just gets dumber.
I guarantee he overstressed the fuck out of that airframe when he looped that thing, and probably most of those hard turns he made. Overstress has more to do with how fast you were going when you decided to pull a certain maneuver rather than just the maneuver itself.
<——Former USMC F/A-18 Airframes Mechanic who performed dozens of overstress inspections after pilots came into the break too fast and overstressed their aircraft.
Half of the truthers’ reasoning that 9/11 couldn’t have happened as it did was that, “a ayrab persun lurnin’ piloting on a trainer can’t fly a cumershal jet.”
Didn’t see or hear a thing. I’d gone to bed. May 18 1980 8:30 am. Mt St Helens blasted me out of a sound sleep in Seattle. My parents 60 miles South didn’t hear a thing.
Luton looked the best of QBs in my opinion, Jermar Jefferson and Jesiah Irish looked like freshman who could contribute this year. Pass Rush looked improved
You mean Friday? I read that was not a stellar day for Blount… 9-11 111 Y looks better than 5-12 97 Y on paper.. Especially since 63 of the 97 Y came on a pass to Timmy
Saw the same comments on Twitter about Luton and the 2 freshman. Appreciate the post. We’ll suck this year and probably next but if these guys can play, year 3 will be exciting
Andrzej is in that OLB / Hybrid rush role. Not technically a d end. He’ll still be playing 5 technique when on the line or in a regular OLB position depending on down and distance. Sounds like Hughes Murray – KEE , Hamiclar and even Issac Garcia will all be used in that capacity. This is the biggest whiff from the last staff that is already being remedied and I love it. Fixing the non existent pass rush.
Just got home from family day scrimmage. Not much to say other than Jefferson and Irish stood out for true freshman. Also thought Flemmings looked like a guy who could make some explosive plays, despite being the smallest guy on the field.
Quitoriano is bigger than I expected. He and Smalls look like they will be better backup TEs than we had last year already.
QB still looks like our shakiest position.
The whole event was very quiet, with the low end bass frequency bumping along to whatever the playlist was, but none of the high frequency sound or lyrics coming through. Just made for an overall strange humming and thumping sound throught the 2 1/2 hours they were on field. Maybe it was just because of where i was sitting?
Oh, and OSU still somehow finds a way to f up what should be the most fan friendly part of the day by cutting off the autograph lines before the last 10-20 fans even get a chance to meet any players.
“Just a warning, we need to cut the lines off in a few minutes because our players have a team meeting to attend”
I swear our athletic department needs to take classes in customer service and line control logistics. It’s not like there were even that many fans in attendance. Imagine how many people would go home unhappy if you cut the line off that quickly with a moderately sized crowd.
This was only a few hundred people, maybe.
It wouldn’t be that difficult to have your team meeting a little bit later and actually have time to do the signing session as advertised, without making fans feel like they’re being kicked out.
To their credit, the players were very accomodating, friendly and just all seemed like they actually wanted to make the moment special for the kids.
Our sports marketing team, not so much. They made the fans feel like they were in the way of their remaining weekend plans.
Also, downtown Corvallis has really transformed into a pretty cool little area to spend a nice summer evening. It earns my vote for best college town in the Pac12.
Oh yeah, and there’s a new chainsaw sound effect for 3rd down. It sounds more distant and echoing, like it’s off in the distance in a forest. But sounds more like an actual chainsaw vs a mating cow, like the old one. Longer duration too. I grabbed audio and posted in the twitter feed, although the recording is pretty quiet.
Sounds like an improvement. I’ve hated that the Pdx timbers could embrace chainsaws in a cool way while we’ve made it a goofy joke. A real-sounding effect is a start.
Fwiw, i thought Blount looked to be the best QB option of the 3. Just seemed to be more poised running the offense than Luton. It was tough to get a good read on the QBs though, because they were subbed in and out so frequently yesterday, none of them had time to develop a rhythm.
Thanks, i hadn’t seen their stats yet. I also had my kids with me, so they make it hard to see alot of plays and details. Blount just seemed to pass the eyeball test better. Plus I think Jake threw a pick on his 3rd play of the day, which automatically put him behind in my book.
I’m still baffled the media keeps labeling Luton as the better passer? Not sure if they even have watched him play? My bet is they just see 6’7″ Senior…
Jim Wilson finally returns to tweet this on the scrimmage, points out the 2/5 FG stat:
Beaver scrimmage: Freshman RB Jermar Jefferson ran for 100 yards and scored two TD’s & WR Jesiah Irish had 100+ receiving yards & two TD’s. Defense played w/o four prominent DB’s. FG kickers went 2-5 on the day with longest try 46 yards. Nothing new at QB
I had a dream a few nights ago that MR’s contract as the HC for San Antonio fell through and he got fired. He in turn came crawling back to OSU for his role back. Which in my dream was granted and he became the Assistant HC again. I’m glad to find it was only a dream after reading this post and not reality!
Langs is listed on the uck site as a “Football Analyst”, while Riley is listed on the Beaver site as, simply, an “Analyst”.
Worth noting (or maybe not) Riley’s twitter still shows him as, Beaver Football “Assistant Head Coach”
Agreed. Just another example of sloppy work and lack of attention to detail by an athletic department headed by one of the highest paid AD’s in the conference.
looks like a fatter GA. I wouldn’t play for him. It’s not overly surprising he almost got in a fist fight with the head coach when he was an assistant at Garden City.
On the Luke Heimlich front: Kristine Anderson is indefatigable. Check out her Justice for Luke site or otherwise search for Brian Lamb’s C-Span Booknotes interview of Dorothy Rabinowitz’s “No Crueler Tyrannies.” It’s about 15 years old now. Her book is not entirely analogous to the Heimlich case because it deals with the miscarriage of justice associated with adults who were wrongly accused of child molestation. However, as the following catalog of approximate time stamps will show, the underlying dynamics of the Heimlich case will be manifest.
7:00 the lame credulity too many people lend to child abuse stories
10:00 how easy it is to manipulate young people into making accusations
15:30 how child sex abuse became the “weapon of choice” for vindictive accusers
17:00 the “ugly truth” about how prosecutors care more about “winning” than securing justice
27:00 the difficulty is publishing a skeptical narrative about child abuse cases
30:00 the “children don’t lie” trope
31:00 media complicity with prosecutorial misconduct
47:30 how young journalists can get in over their head covering such stories
51:00 lazy journalism
Rabinowitz’ epigram, which she voices several times in this interview, is “what is one man’s life?”
Luke still awaits his Rabinowitz. I predict that someday a writer is going to win Pulitzer Prize for unmasking this miscarriage.
So this sites favorize jurno, canzano, was going on today about how great tiger was this weekend and how much of a success story his comeback is.
I called him out on Twitter for burying Luke at every opportunity yet cheering on Tiger, who has done plenty of terrible things in his life and should not be a role model at all. How can you be on those opposite spectrums on those 2 individuals?
According to reports he got a lot of reps today and looked good displaying arm strength. I’d be surprised if this isn’t a repeat of the Collins, Mitchell, McMaryion season where each week the QB changed.
The QBs are fungible, as they’ve been for the last three years. Blaming or praising any one of them for singular games or practices is a disingenuous exercise.
Selective outrage 101. No one wants to risk going after Tiger’s cheating ways because of glass houses and stones and such. Meanwhile Luke is an easy target for someone to pretend to have morals.
Not seeing that. I see a tired coach that understands where they are at. Not a defeated coach by any means. Just a coach that knows that you have to continue the march and coach them up. I like the fact he is not sugar coating anything.
I too, see a coach who understands where they are and doesn’t automatically give the expected “canned” answer (see: 2.50 where he refuses to say “sure, we’re improving”).
And I continue to see, in Tibs, a coach who deals in specifics. Example: his answer at 2:33 where he breaks down tackling. Also, I think he presents a no nonsense image to reporters and their fluff questions.
Yep, I like the guy and have hopes for a competitive D, even with a D-line that Lundeberg (correctly) calls “terrifyingly thin”.
I don’t see a defeated coach. I see a coach that is focused, willing to answer the media questions in a way that is technical and on point. I’m glad he’s saying that tackling is a work in progress, because it is constantly something you need to work on in practice. It has to become natural for you as a player to get into position without thinking about tackling. I like intentional intensity, rather than intense because you have adrenaline from a practice. Get intense when you’re praising/celebrating with a player for a job well done, or getting intense when a player screws up and then get calm enough to explain how not to make the same mistake.
I think they are all tired. And why wouldn’t they be, they have been burning the midnight oil for two weeks now. The hours that these guys put in are huge. You want intensity during the week leading up to the game and on game day. I am just not seeing it. I’m no Pollyanna, I understand where this team is talent wise, but I also know how hard all are working, including coaches.
And where does this dearth of talent narrative come from? QB and Dline are where we suck. Everywhere else is pretty good.
It’s just a matter of teaching the talent how to use their talent in the system being implemented. Three years ago the question was, “Why doesn’t he change his system to fit his personnel?” It’s the same now. It will just take time for the talent to digest the new system and implement it in an efficient manner. It’s up to the coach to make that happen. The better the coach, the shorter that time frame becomes.
A bad coach will be able to only do this sporadically, usually relying on the emotion or confidence of any given weekend to motivate the players.The team beats others who are that much worse than them, or they give good effort against rivals… or both.
A mediocre coach will take good talent in his own system and not be able to implement his system with that talent (that has been in the system for years) until well into the season. Or s/he will prey on the sisters of the poor in a favorable schedule then get exposed against equal talent.
A good coach will take over a team and show signs of promise and effort within the first season, following that up with an established system which uses a feedback loop for success. The team will get better year over year, but year three tells you if the coach is good or not.
A great coach will take the reins, struggle a little in year one, then never look back. The worst years for that coach will be on the tail end when they slide from great to good, then good to mediocre. Then the culture that expects greatness panics and retires that coach.
We’ve had a bad coach. We’ve had a mediocre coach who was fortunate enough to have a good leader intervene in the middle of 2006 (alas, he died in 2010). We’ve had a great coach who had one last thing to prove on this level. And now we have 9.
It will be telling how the OSU culture responds. It has been the only constant in all this.
What if OSU would have let Andros pick just one more coach? To be sure, he was fired just to avoid that happening. But his next hire was going to be this up and comer from from Idaho named Erickson.
Instead, we go from Dee and Joe to Snyder and Kragthorpe. Frying pan… fire.
And I shouldn’t say the Dline sucks. We’re just an injury away from sucking, and it’s unrealistic to think we get 100% participation from them, given there are people out there Tuerking Dlinemen.
Spot on. GA led fans on a sad chase for 3 years. Sadder yet, we’ll never know how he muddled the player’s lives when he was there. My ‘what if’ is Gary Anderson never showing up at OSU.
Injuries, injuries, injuries; without going through reports, such as they are, mostly leg,hip, foot. I persist in my notion that Nike footwear is responsible, assuming the Beavs are still wearing it. I have recently become a Hanlon’s Razor enthusiast, especially with all the political crap. In any event, malice or cock-up, I’m sure it’s Nike’s fault.
I predict the season will be much like the plane flight of the guy that plane-jacked the commuter plane from SeaTac……..but without the fancy acrobatics.
Any news on our QB Recruiting trails? From what Rivals has out there, we only have 4 QB’s on our Offer sheet that are uncommitted. The most likely QB to commit is Nathan Lamb(OSU is the only P5 D1 school to offer him).
Lamb – tentative and slow, makes some poor decisions that would be picks on this level
Legendre – don’t want, pipe dream anyway…hearing grades are an issue
Suiaunoa – do want, pipe dream
Baldwin – known quantity who has gone silent over the summer, but he was sold on other than OSU… makes it sound like grades
I was looking around last week and couldn’t find much in the way of QB talent hanging around. But I did find some decent talent.
Stone Hollenbach (southern columbia) – I don’t know why he doesn’t have several P5 offers… except that he does no camps except at Bama, wants to go to Bama, and is a PWO commit to Bama (?… must be a rich kid)
I should say Jordan also doesn’t have the wheels everyone wants these days. I think that’s a plus for anyone who wants to keep their QB healthy for a full season… or career… given you play to his strength, which is great feet and hands in the pocket.
I looked at Eget, and I think there’s too much needing to be corrected in his game. He has a long, open delivery unless he’s passing short left. And he’s a one read QB. But he has decent wheels. I’d rather go after Tommy Turner (lincoln). https://www.hudl.com/profile/7924204/Tommy-Turner
Not much to say regarding QB recruitimg. They’re still cautiously recruitimg Weston Eget, and I still think he is the QB we end up with eventually.
One guy who I think they will still pursue hard is Joey Yellen. Call it a hunch, but based on some other guys we are recruiting who have ties to Yellen, I get the sense that the Beavs haven’t given up on him despite his verbal pledge to ASU(who have 2 2019 QBs currently)
Yellen has always been my top realistic hope(after Bachmeier) for OSU, so I really hope they can get him to change his mind.
I like Yellen, even if he only has Peyton Manning speed.
Bachmeier has a nice arm and reads the field pretty well, but he really has some happy feet and presto hands. There’s a lot of good to work with. Though, I get bored watching air raid QB tape.
Eget I pass on because of the single-read tendency and the whole motion/release/flight process of his passing abilities. He has nice feet, great hands and decent wheels. But I know where every one of his passes are going a full count before he releases them. It causes issues on quick hits with timing and accuracy. And a lot of his highlights are highlights because his receivers win on contested balls (or the ball somehow gets lost by the HS D).
I listed Jordan because he was P5 back-up material. He’s like Garretson with good decisions in his head. I have no doubt he would be an upper level MW QB by his RS Soph year… halfway through his true Soph year, after getting beat up pretty good.
Stone whatshisname is technically great. But his Bama fetish is just absurd. More power to him, I guess.
This Rumery kid’s tape is just fun to watch. His footwork is perfect… but in a natural way. It’s like watching Bill Walsh talk about how his QBs should work their feet then saying as an aside that QB1 does that… do it like him. His motion and release are effortless and efficient.
And then you start to notice that he’s tossing it 40 yards on a dime with all that no effort stuff.
I predict this kid will be a PWO at PennSt and never be heard from again. There are a million ways players can fall through the cracks. I think he’s one of them.
When I see the soft spot in the D, he goes there. Those moments where we see that guy or that section of field open… he sees that. And he has the ability to get to those soft spots with his arm or his legs. His field awareness combined with his athleticism (and a really pretty spin on the ball) show him to be a leader by example on the field. http://www.hudl.com/profile/8127010/Isaac-Rumery
He’s just friggin’ fun to watch. All but a couple throws are in the basket. I would love to be a receiver for this kid.
I guess I haven’t been this confused about recruiting since Terron Ward wasn’t offered anything from anyone for whatever reason everyone doesn’t offer someone. I still don’t know wtf that was all about. He was obviously a good to great RB.
Eggers tweets this in regard to banged up secondary: “Morris is the one guy who will probably miss the opener. I think they’re just being careful with the cornerbacks (Dunn, Irvine, Williams).”
Could be that the coaches know the Ohio State game is a loss so why risk your players that you will need for the season. There is some strategy to that thinking at least.
Further on Morris according to Lundeberg: “Jonathan Smith said David Morris is out indefinitely with another foot injury…This injury is to Morris’ left foot. He suffered a broken right foot during winter workouts”
Calvin Tyler also out indefinitely; Morris, however is the guy who’ll be missed most. Lundeberg gives a pretty good rundown of the overall injury situation in his piece today.
Unfortunately, D Williams has sat far more than he has played at Oregon State, so I wouldn’t even begin to count on him!
I feel Oregon State is in huge trouble all around, especially on D! Smith will find out soon enough that he is WAY over his head! He needed 4-5 years at a D1 school as a HC! I’m still amazed at all of the idiots saying that the Beavs will win 4-5 games this season?1 Really?!?1?! How? if 4 teams forfeit? If the Beavs win more than 1 game this season, it will be a miracle! But here’s what really kills me! The same idiots that were blindly bitching about Andersen on day 1, before the first game, will blame Andersen- if/when Coach Smith fails this season (1-11 or something similar)! I realize Andersen failed but some people never even tried to give him a shot from he get go because it wasn’t a hire in their comfort zone. That’s bullshit! But doesn’t surprise me for all the Riley lovers!
Interesting that OL coach Mxzxlk listed Brandel and Delp as the most likely locks as starters. No mention of Lavaka, who was far and away the most consistent OL last year.
I’ve never understood Delp. He has always looked like an upgrade whenever he came in to spell or replace someone.
Brandel is our best OL. Lavaka was just more of a surprise. If the RS frosh can step up now, they will likely beat out Moore and Houston. Is Lavaka taking turns at C? Divided attention could explain why he isn’t mentioned–more of an administrative issue. Who’s practicing there that would make Houston not a lock?
Brandel is solid, but I don’t think he had the positive impact on our offensive production that Lavaka did. Lavaka played a significant role in the majority of our big runs.
No one that played C last year should be considered a lock. Lavaka might make sense there.
Suppose Houston could do more good on the d line given the status there if someone would step-up? Eggers reported recently that Demogerantas was the backup center.
“Offensive line coach Jim Michalczik was doing some experimenting with his group Saturday. Among those getting some time with the first team at center was Nous Keobounnam, a 6-2, 290-pound sophomore from Centennial High.”
Hey Angry….. email me privately with an address I can use and I’ll kick you a gift card, like we did last year in SB. Don’t do Paypal or any of that fancy computer stuff. JB
Just saw this post that Keith Pankey had some major heart issues crop up recently and is in critical condition at OHSU.
There’s a gofundme for anybody interested in sending some financial support
As long as it wasn’t school money that paid for it (or that they were then given to players?), then I see no issue with this… unless he opened the packages and played with them publicly.
The White House nude selfie is a little disturbing. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t spending the night.
So we need some Oline in this class. Are we in on any hosses?
We have Clark, Mackay, Wellsfry and now Levengood. All look serviceable or better–actual P5 talents. How many linemen will 9 keep on his roster?
I see Dawkins went D. I don’t think Stover projects as D at all. His TE tape looks really good. I love his blocking and think he might even make a great OT.
His parents are friends of ours, but we had no idea Aidan had become such an accomplished athlete. He really wants a Pac12 offer, but so far only has some Big Sky offers and Air Force. Also a 4.0 student with Ivy League “offers”, but those don’t come with financial assistance.
Anyway, any constructive feedback would be good to hear so I can pass it along. He’s about 6’2″ and 185 right now, I think(ran track in Spring so he was light but is gaining some weight over the summer)
Prefers WR, but most schools project him at Safety. Also a state track medal winner in several events throughout highschool(sprints/hurdles/high jump)
He would be very receptive to an OSU offer because he is drawn towards engineering as a major. Should be one of the top 5-6 players in the state this coming year.
Hits his long stride quickly… hips are nice… tape is limited, so can’t say much about how he comes out of breaks, but that looks like his weakness.
Other than that, he looks like a possession receiver type. He needs to compile a tape of cuts and blocks. This one only really shows straight line moves.
OT: Beware of taking Fido to a dog park in Portland. Despite eating locally sourced, non GMO doggy granola and getting pot laced puppy treats, the canines in Portland are sexual predators.
#woof, woof. https://www.dailywire.com/news/33593/peer-reviewed-feminist-journal-says-dog-parks-kassy-dillon
“Dog parks are microcosms where hegemonic masculinist norms governing queering behavior and compulsory heterosexuality can be observed in a cross-species environment.” Wilson wrote.
Yes… but what does Uncle Guido’s barber’s nephew’s wife’s bestie’s mother-in-law say about what happens when you make that face too many times?
I’m happy that people can spend their hard-earned time creating diversionary news out of “person on the street” interviews. But you really have to warn the reader that s/he needs to go get a roll of tinfoil and start making hats in order to read that bullshit.
Maybe instead of hyping some unknown bored person with no job, these news outlets should focus on highly stupid bored people who actually affect our daily lives.
Yeah… I’m talking about Dumbshit, the king of morons, born on home plate and ran back to third a couple times just so he could say he hit a grand slam and scored three runs in the process.
Lol, Jack is like 74 years old and likes to burn people on the World Wide Web. On the one hand, it’s kinda cute, on the other we all wish his retirement community had more activities for him.
Who needs to burn anyone when you guys are just flaming?
I really do understand that gamma doesn’t understand consistency. He’s one of the most vocal adherents to distraction-flaming, and he complains that my consistency and adherence to rules and laws and best practices is “really getting old” or “I’m so tired of” and other whiny noises like that.
A@A is ruled by his irrational thoughts, as the content of his most recent post shows.
You’re amused because what you took the time to type and commit to history with a simple click of the Submit Comment button allowed you to do also allowed you to capture some imaginative argument you so failed to even begin, let alone make during your weird supposed counter to something you think I said…somewhere… sometime.
I invite you to go back in time on this very blog and point out to me how I have been inconsistent or wrong.
I want to know this because if I’m wrong, I want to correct my wrongs. If I’m inconsistent, I want to question the set rules I thought were right.
You all pose little resistance to these ideals. And you provide less credible arguments against, even when I allow ridiculous emotional and spuriouos retorts as “you tard” and such.
That’s some really weak sauce.
I expect nothing more… you pussy weaklings who hate America.
Two weeks to go to the first game and there’s not much to be optimistic about for the first part of the season. just hoping to make it to conference play without a lot of injuries.
Not a good sign that no QB has separated himself from the group. Further red flags is that Colletto is in the mix after barely playing at a JC.
Defense has so many holes that won’t be fixed this year. Not sure any amount of coaching will make this defense better. Expecting them to be worst in conference.
it’ll be interesting to see how the coaches utilize the redshirt rule. Do they save guys until the end of the year when injuries have piled up?
The game plan for winning game will be the same every time. Keep the clock running on offense to limit the drives the defense is on the field for. Beavs don’t have the talent yet to put a game away early. even the other non conf will be close games.
As far as the QB situation goes, I have two possible theories-
Positive: These coaches realize that this is college football and they have an offensive scheme that can be picked up and executed by average college football players in one off season. Will the quarterbacks be NFL ready when they graduate? Nope, and I don’t give a fuck. And neither should any college coach because that’s not their job.
Negative: All the quarterbacks suck and it doesn’t matter who plays.
We know which one Eeyore picks, and we’ll all know where reality is soon enough.
Good to see Flemings getting some recognition. Thought he stood out a little at the scrimmage a couple weeks back. Speedy and hard to tackle. Could be a good option in the return game.
Went to one of the boycotted media outlets to see if they have a new writer, and they do. Nick Daschel. He quoted Kalani Vakameilalo with the following:
‘By sticking it out, Vakameilalo believes the payoff will come this season.
“I’m learning a lot with these coaches. They’re teaching me a lot that I didn’t know. I’m getting a lot of football IQ,” Vakameilalo said. “This is the most comfortable I’ve felt in the five years.” ‘
This gives me hope with the fact that in 5 years of playing at Oregon State, he’s learning things he didn’t know before this staff came into the mix. There was also a quote where one of the 5th year seniors stated they are glad to have Riley on the staff. Didn’t think that it would be beneficial for those 5th year seniors to have a familiar coach around during the transition of yet, another coaching change. Once those players became comfortable with the new staff, Riley decided to officially leave as an assistant and just be in the background as an analyst. He’s served his purpose for Oregon State and can now officially be out of the media’s mindset. Haven’t heard MR’s name brought up as of late. I actually have high hopes this team will resemble a football team rather than bodies on the field thinking too much and flailing about on the field.
I don’t know man…I’m an optimist by nature but this year’s team seems to have all the makings of a dumpster fire. Coaching may be great but I’m not sure it’ll make a difference,
Let’s forgo the obvious QB question and jump to the fact that we’re running with only 2 D-linemen in our base defensive package due to lack of personnel and depth. Oh, and one of those two starting linemen is an unheralded true freshman. This is terrifying.
Next let’s circle back to the fact that we probably don’t have a legit D1 QB on the roster. Other than maybe a way-too-raw Colletto.
DBs, while a strength on paper, have been ravaged with injuries.
The coaches have talked a lot about using TEs effectively, but aside from one player who is injured and was very ineffective (while healthy) last year, we have nothing but true freshmen in line.
We’ve already lost a good chunk of our most talented players with eligibility: Crawford (transfer), Reichner (broken foot- probably out most of season and possibly ineffective once back), Morris (foot, timeline unknown), Ugwoegbu (quit/NFL), Nall (NFL), Tyner (passed on medical redshirt).
I’m generally a pretty hopeful guy, but I don’t have much hope that this team will be competitive. Maybe next year…
I’m not so worried about offense mostly because the starting o-line has 78 starts coming into the year. Ohio State for comparison has an o-line with 58 career starts. It also sounds like we’re hitting some big plays in practice and we weren’t doing that last year. Luton is a better QB than Garretson was. We’ve got talent at WR and RB, and Togiai is gonna start game 1.
Our rush D the last three years was the worst 3 years since Avezzano was here. And last years 5.5 yds allowed per rush was the worst by the Beavs since 1973. Our players weren’t that bad, that was on the coaches. we should be better just because it isn’t possible to be any worse. we can still cart 378 lbs of Aydon out there every few plays and if Isaac Hodgins is anything like his brother he’ll be right up to speed. Plus I like Jonathan Willis way better than Hungalu who was so slow to read plays. As for DBs, even with the injuries we’ve got some studs in Jalen Moore, Dwayne Williams, and a ton of young guys got experience last year which was one good thing about going 1-11.
Nall, Ugwoegbu, Villamin, Collins, and Tyner were all either underachievers or just wanted to leave last year and the team’s attitude is already better this year. Vegas predicted 5.5 wins last year with about the same talent. We ditched our shit coaches, purged some lesser motivated guys, and got everybody but Morris back from injury so why can’t we be improved?
We’ve got Nevada on the road and they have no D so that should be a shootout and a great chance for our first road win since 2014 at Hawaii. We have Wazzu at home and they will be down since their D-coord left, Leach tried like hell to leave, and their new QB is dead. We have Cal at home and they should be okay but we should hang with them man for man at Reser. I know it hasn’t been easy to win at ASU but Herm Edwards is an idiotic hire so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re a train wreck. Colorado is going to have a bad year and that will be a decent chance at a road win. I don’t rule out the CW either, id be more worried about the ucks if they made their d-coord their head coach. Combined with southern Utah there’s a possibility of 5+ wins in there.
I think you guys are waaaaaaayyyyyy overestimating the coaching talent in FBS football. Herm’s flubs were always about the whole recruiting thing. He sure as fuck righted that ship in a short season. Now he’s a fired Jets coach in the Pac.
I remember USC fan thinking they got nothing but coal in their stockings for 2000. Many around the Pac were giggling as well.
Don’t worry about Graham. Wherever he is, I guarantee it’s his dream job.
Nall, Ugwoegbu, Villamin, Collins, and Tyner were all either underachievers or just wanted to leave last year and the team’s attitude is already better this year. Vegas predicted 5.5 wins last year with about the same talent. We ditched our shit coaches, purged some lesser motivated guys, and got everybody but Morris back from injury so why can’t we be improved?
Pretty much this. We’re probably better off at the beginning of this season because this list does make addition by subtraction. The only one I would take for this season (having seen what they did last season) is Tyner.
Our last road win was CU. It’s probably an honest mistake, since both that game and the Hawai’i game from that year were possibly the two ugliest and most embarrassing wins we’ve ever had. And that includes the first couple wins in 2000.
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What if Luton really is good and GA just had a dodo for OC that he wouldn’t fire? Perhaps McGiven was such a poor OC that he screwed up the entire OLine/QB/RB room and even the WR were getting the yips.
Last year I thought a lot of things needed to go right but the schedule seemed favorable if Luton was a difference-making qb. He wasn’t comfortable or he was terrible, everybody pressed, Nall was a prima-donna, CSU was a major gut-punch, Nall was a prima-donna with good run or 2, Luton got levelled in game 4, GA flipped his lid, D was a disaster, OC was a clown, absolute melt-down from the whole team.
I think Nall’s fumble at the end of the Stanford game was a confidence destroying play for a fairly talented team that saw nothing executed well the whole season.
The post above by LA Pine proposes a glimmer of hope based on some talent and new coaching. I think there is a chance they are decent before they are another dumpster fire. The schedule seems to demand returns on the teaching earlier rather than later though. If they aren’t at 4 wins by game 8, they won’t reach 5 wins. I’d be surprised if they can actually get to 4 wins on the year. If these guys see good results from actual coaching and get on a roll early, with consistent qb play, stout dline play, maybe they can win enough to get to a bowl. I would not bet my neighbor’s house on it though.
Beavs go 4-8 by beating Southern Utah, Nevada, WSU and 1 road win out of ASU/Cal/Colorado
What I saw from Luton is that he has an average skill set and performed like an average QB. The biggest issue was his accuracy on all manner of throws, from swing passes to deep routes. Can new coaches fix that? Probably not, and I think we’d be hearing about separation in camp if he really was that much better.
We might have the talent to play the theoretical Riley pro-style offense (not the ACTUAL Riley offense) where we run more than pass and mostly use the run to set up deeper play action routes. Luton has a strong arm, so the passing game needs to try to tap into that rather than hoping he miraculously gets more accurate. We also have RB depth and some talent and experience on the O-line, so they should be able to handle the majority of the play calls.
This is the only scenario where I see us moving the ball well enough to win more than 2 games.
Marcus Greaves and Mama M podcast, lots of Marcus McM mentions – how McM deserved to be #1 and how Anderpants lost the team by dropping him to #4. 24:00, 29:40, 30:30.
At 2:25 Greaves opines that Fresno State held McM out of first games vs tough OOC opponents saving him for conference games. Feels they knew he’d be their #1 from the start……could JS do the same this year?
Lots of love for Coach Bray.
And, in the “water is wet” file; they feel the D could be pretty good IF the d-line “performs”.
Apologists for a marginal QB who probably had a foot out the door and (admitted by all of said apologists) had an entitlement issue have jumped the shark.
Willard was scout team and redshirting. Blount was redshirting come hell or high water.
If MM was demoted to #4 it was because he went into pouty entiltlement mode, skipped practice the next day (which he did), and probably announced his intentions to take his ball and go home.
You all need to let this poison go. It’s going to make you look the fools time and time again.
He may or may not have had any leverage you all think he had. But his actions bespeak a non-leader.
There can be no argument to the contrary. His actions are the argument itself.
If you would like to continue this discussion of irrational weirdness, I’m here all week… and month… and year… and….
Please, someone tell me how Jaquori McLoughlin deserved to start, was so entitled about it that he left OSU… but he is a great leader for OSU and coaches were stupid for benching him, even though he skipped practice in a pouty huff of entitlement.
He was the best qb on the roster at the time (which means nothing). I think not being “GA’s” guy was his biggest downfall. I dont think we win anymore games if he starts.
I totally agree he was the best QB on the roster. I was prepared to go to war for him… until he quit.
When he quit, he was no longer the best QB on the roster.
I don’t get how people don’t get this.
Then again, I don’t know how people can ignore the facts and elect a know deadbeat as POTUS, let alone how the fact-pattern spells “MONEY LAUN ERER”, and they deny that D exists.
You all are living inn some fairy tale where even bias doesn’t explain your stupidity.
You all deserve more than ridicule for hypocrisy about everything team you pretend to espouse.
I mean… if I was to say that oil and gas workers should be outlawed because one of them killed his pregnant wife and two kids, you all would think I’m crazy.
Why aren’t the [name of opposing party here] outlawing oil and gas workers?
They’re by exponential numbers more violent than illegals, and we all know that illegals are bad… especially when illegals come into the USA illegally… like FLOTUS did.
Soft underbelly doesn’t even start to explain the dissociation from reality the stupid percent adhere to. They are fucking adherent. They are also fucking stupid… as hell… and way beyond.
I thought I knew stupid before 2016.
I was so so so wrong.
The completely stupid dumbfucks who insist that they are, in fact, dumbfucks who think dumbfuck things will be made whole.
I’m sure the smart among them knows what that means.
Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding, let alone your massively incorrect assumptions. I’m guessing your inherently wrong biases led you there.
“He was the best qb on the roster at the time (which means nothing). I think not being “GA’s” guy was his biggest downfall. I dont think we win anymore games if he starts.”
The whole topic of not being “GA’s guy” is, I think, more important than a rehash of the McM discussion; according to Greaves GA lost the team (not just McM) over the way he handled playing time for those who weren’t “his guys”. Not only in regard to the QB position. BTW, I disagree on not winning ANY more games if McM would have started.
Just like the new redshirt rule, the strategy of how to approach an early game vs a much superior OOC opponent is worth thinking about. Greaves opinion that playing guys who you only expect to be backups in that type game is something I wonder if JS seriously considers.
That, and the use of (which) 4 games for redshirts brings up the idea of conceding certain games…….a discussion all on it’s own.
Off topic, just trying to remember if I ever saw Marcus Greaves play for OSU. Does anybody remember him ever getting into a game? Why did he retire early? I don’t know anything about the guy
Why does anything GA did have anything to do with OSU now? If anyone wants to complain about his playing favorites, why doesn’t anyone talk about how Nall obviously should have been benched two series into last season?
Oh… because it doesn’t matter now.
GA quit.
He gone.
Bringing up the issue of coaches playing favorites only applies to 9 right now. I don’t see any evidence of that happening.
Also, with zero games to reference, nobody else does.
Why does anything GA did have anything to do with OSU now?
Because GA, by his presence and actions, left the basis upon which JS must build. Talking about it won’t change that; podcast comments about improved morale don’t prove that JS is making positive changes, but the fact remains that players aren’t likely to have forgotten the experience of the GA years.
Again, of more interest to me were the comments about holding out your true #1 when starting the season against what appears to be a vastly superior ooc opponent.
GA left talent. He received very little. He sucked at trusting some schmuck to choose some kind of QB he thought he had an idea about.
Then he quit.
Now he gone. Buh-bye.
Now we have better talent but directionless or (as some of you would have it) destroyed players. I choose directionless. That’s where a ne HC comes into this discussion.
If you haven’t been paying attention up to now, we have a new HC.
If 9 doesn’t do measurably better with this group than GA did last year, then there better be nobody and not anyone defending his coaching acumen. And that’s intended to be directed at those here who neg along the recent talking points oh so familiar to even the newbies on any blog.
1-11 would mean that we failed in our choice for a head coach. Cory Hall could take this team to at least three wins next year. The neggie Nellies can kiss my ass. That pre-narrative will not fly. If the talent on hand is so demoralized that they can’t even be bothered to play, I would rather watch the scout team scrap for just one yard. And if I don’t have a HC who realizes even this basic tenet of competitive spirit, then I don’t have a HC.
That is the basis for your neggie narrative. That’s what I have to believe you now believe about our new HC.
GA left talent……check
Cory Hall could take this squad to 3 wins……..check
1-11 would mean OSU picked the wrong HC…………..check
Seems we’re pretty much in agreement. I expect 9 to get this team to at least 3 wins and looking like an organized football team all season long.
Now, will 9’s strategy include using the new redshirt rule to, effectively, concede some games? Will he concede some games by leaning on backups and saving his first string for more evenly matched contests? Those were the points I thought the podcast made relevant here. I know no one else agrees, so will give that dead horse a rest now.
Why can’t religious people be left to their own peace without the government imposing ridiculous ideals upon them? How can the wiccan community recover from someone like Dumbshit admitting to being one of them?
RPI was just a poor metric because too much weight was given to a feedback loop.
We’ll just have to see how the new metrics are set up. Even Kenpom doesn’t weigh everything correctly. The weights themselves are subjective. You have to know what data sets are important to individual teams in individual match-ups to utilize them correctly.
I think making it more complicated is a mistake. Simply cutting out the feedback loop part of the RPI would be an easy thing to do.
Do the Beavs have a real shot at being the most surprising turnaround in the Pac12?
Pessismism/Reality says they are in for a really long season and will get routed in at least 7 losses. tOSU, Cal, UW, UA, USC, Stanford, UO.
Optimistism/Koolaid says they could get on a roll and win 7 straight close games and go 7-5: But end with a 4 game losing streak. If JS has Beavs at 7-1 going into the USC home game, he should be named national coach of the year on the spot.
No urban Meyer for tOSU for the first 3 games. This means we play a team without Urban Meyer for their home opener. Does this change anything since Urban hasn’t been at a practice for the entire month of August?
GA:
I wonder if the Beavs will take their Big Boy pants to Columbus and go out and compete their tails off, with a QB who can win with his arm, legs and mind. Hopefully they will fight like crazy and give 110% for each other in all 3 phases, offense, defense and special teams. I like the want to in this team, the war daddy mentality and the physicality that puts guys in the right situation, scenario, circumstance to make plays and be successful.
Riley:
Boy I remember these types of games. Golly, well, I’m real proud of these guys and the attention to detail. They are still looking to develop that leadership and form an identity as a team. We’ll see how they do, but boy, I love these neat early season experiences for our guys. It’s a neat deal for them to be in a stadium that feels like big-time football. We have had some real fun memories in these early season games. It’s such a neat deal, I think it really develops character and helps challenge each guy to become more than just football players.
DeCarolis:
Well, we looked at the budget and decided that a road beat-down was the only way to keep the lights on at Reser for the rest of the home games. Sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you are the bug. Bugs pay the bills this year.
Athletic Trainers:
Fingers crossed…
Urban Meyer:
Glad I didn’t have to be on the sideline for this one. B-O-R-I-N-G
Jonathan Smith:
We think we can we think we can we think we can we think we can ….uh-oh, keep trying. Let’s just play hard and have some fun. Stay safe everybody.
National TV audience:
There is another OSU??? Who knew? I thought the only team from Oregon was green, not orange. Weird.
I don’t get it. We have better food in Corvallis than many places. It’s just that the best of the best ;ands there, so there’s no “variety” of choice. But that’s not really true anymore, since they encroached on green space.
So now that Corvallis is starting to look like suburbs and constant development, maybe it’s lost some of its charm?
It still has free buses. So I know there are people there who know how to do the right thing. When that falls by the wayside, the redo will be complete.
But until then, teddy bears should be shown that they can thrive in that town.
I think the recruiting has been insufficient in selling this ideal. You’re a growing boy who needs his nourishment. We can provide this. And we can do it with zero distractions. We will let you be you, and you will learn to love you.
“CTS became fareless on Feb. 1 because of a Transit Operations Fee passed by the Corvallis City Council. It added $2.75 to single-family residential customers’ bill each month.” ie the buses aren’t free.
Obviously, there are costs associated with running the CTS. And that’s going to be assessed in some shared way among the citizens.
But you’ve failed to account the costs of externalities in your hasty attempt to be clever. The benefits to businesses and residences (and the citizens themselves) outweigh the shared costs.
I cringed many times over the past couple days hearing about un-indicted co-conspirators and how someone plead without admitting cooperation. The void in facts has the media just weirded out. And it’s really annoying.
I guess nature really does abhor a vacuum.
I have two words that fill the vacuum immediately. Occam would agree with me.
And we’re all thinking abut your ass. We’re thinking you’re just going to be another one of those who are so on the wrong side of history that they spend the last 40 years of their life apologizing for their stupidity… and playing CYA.
If you need a primer on that dumb acronym, go fuck yourself.
You’ll be too embarrassed to tell your grandchildren how hard it was for anyone to think anything but ass while you thought you shared independent thought in the latter half of the 2010’s. But you’ll always know where you were told to stand during this time… and that you blindly followed the noise to this end.
“Wrong side of history” – you don’t even know my “side”. You do like putting words in people’s mouths and extrapolating like a loon, though. You’re on the wrong… side…of…sanity…and…reality
Your position is easily known, because you don’t have any original ideas or words.
Unless you want to claim that you were raised by a conspiracy nut, and you just have a hard time turning over your vocabulary in order to emote an independent voice, you’re a known quantity.
The space in my head which is always rented by POTUS is a constant.
Just because your criminal dumbshittery occupies that position doesn’t mean I don’t fucking pay attention to what the leader of my gawdammed country says and does… you lazy fucking prick.
POTUS is kinda fucking important, you dipshit of immense proportions.
Now… if I paid attention to what Hillary Clinton, some loser who doesn’t affect anything in my life, is saying… I might be a loser who thinks he’s a redneck.
But then I would truly be a redneck, because I truly support unions and labor.
The pseudo-man is the executive in charge of the Executive branch of the government of my country. If you don’t care about your country, that’s on you. But don’t project your fake patriotism on me.
You inject Trump into EVERYTHING. This is an OSU sports board. Angrybeavs, not Angrytrumphaters. There are plenty of other boards for your incessant political rants.
You present yourself in oozing Trump-speak with your conspiracy-laced stupidities.
So I just go to the root of the ideas which you are told to believe… and do so blindly.
Does it bother your pussiness that I call the Trumpster fire what he is–a failed pseudo-man who would be nothing without daddy’s money and an army of lawyers who know how to chisel earnings away from hard-working Americans?
Or are you just afraid that your dear leader will finally be caught for the money laundering that he’s not particularly good at hiding… to the point that it looks like he wasn’t even hiding it.
I guess if it’s done in the open, it’s not a crime.
Right?
If you think this is obsession, little conspiracy boy, then you fail to recognize reality, yet again.
Jack, you seriously need to see a therapist. We may argue on the internet, but it’s apparent to anyone reading that something is off. I am not going to feed into this unhealthy mental cycle and will simply ignore your posts from now on. Take care, beaver brother.
I don’t know what’s worse, you ranting like a cry baby about the POTUS or you pretending to understand locker room dynamics and Coaching politics… Maybe you should take up knitting to calm yourself down.
Knitting could be dangerous with that needle point…I’d stick to basket weaving, although if you need to take a class on that, the school down south can set you up, but unfortunately, it’s reserved for scholarship players.
Needle point and knitting are two different things. And I know you didn’t mean to conflate them, but that you think a knitting needle has a point tells me how sharp you are.
Then again, your weird conspiracies about the sky falling are about as sharp as a tennis ball… and weird.
I don’t think Nikegon has a basket weaving class. But if they did, I would think players would stay away from it. Unlike what you’re accustomed to, it takes some actual work.
And I don’t know why you keep bringing up locker room dynamics. I’ve certainly not brought it up, because it means nothing in the discussions I’ve had. You’re wanting to apply something subjective to objective events. I’m probably aligned with you on the whole chemistry thing. But that’s a completely different discussion.
Thus, I call for you to bring logic to the table, not red-herrings.
But I’m preaching to a bunch who succumbed to thinking in terms of Wiscy trolls–applying the worst rumors of their football admin and coaches over the years to the quitter who quit on them. You all can waste your time thinking and postulating about all that crap if you want. But don’t get all butt-hurt when you’re called out as the fool. You should have done that before you bought the crap that was ancillary to your original ideas but tainted them because of credibility issues.
Urban Meyer is a surprisingly bad at faking sincerity. I’ve heard better forced apologies from petulant five year olds. Urban Liar……..wife did not share the texts she received.
I went, bigger crowd than I had anticipated. Good emotion from fans and team.
Noah went down on first series, left knee.. He was very emotional and I’m guessing it was a severe knee injury, hoping the best for the young man.
Luton looks much improved in his foot work. Had a nice slant with Kolby for a 50+TD. However, he was ineffective in situationals starting from the 50 and could not get a first down.
On previous drive on 3rd and goal after leading a 90+yard drive he was sacked killing a promising drive.
Blount had a lot of WR drops, Bodden had 2 on the FIRST series alone. Laverty had a big yardage play drop right off his hands. The worst drop was Bradford on a 40 yard bomb wide open in the end zone, very nicely thrown ball to him in stride. Blount hit Flemmings after a nice QB scramble to set up the game trying FG at the end of the scrimmage. Blount also had a bad int forcing it on 3rd and long running out of the pocket.
Colletto is behind both of them imo. Blount threw the best deep ball. Luton had a lot of check downs but had improved from last year. My Knocks on Luton is that he is not mobile and will take a lot of sacks. Still staring down the receivers and misses on deep balls (not counting the catch and run by Kolby).
Kicking was spot on today. Jordon 4/4 with 46, 48, 52 and 54 yard kicks the last one to tie the game as time expired.
Defense is better and didn’t give up that many busted plays.
I think a 2 qb system could actually work with this team.
Noah is injury prone. Could have been the same hit that another kid shakes off. There likely is something in our physical makeup that causes some to be more prone to injury but until we get a handle on that somes dudes will just always be the type of guys that get hurt all the time. Sad reality.
RE: QB…All the reports i saw said Luton was lights out today and separated himself. tho
He got rolled up on. Happened on a run play the next play after his only reception/target. If was too bad, cause Luton threw a back shoulder duck and Noah went to and got it like the stud he is.. Feel bad for the lad
I thought Togiai was our best shot to score any points against Ohio State. The buckeyes don’t really have any weaknesses but their inside LBs and safeties are about the only positions where they don’t have multiple 5-star recruits on their depth chart. Their starting MLB is working back from an achilles tear in the offseason, and after spring practice urban Meyer had called safety their biggest concern.
It is. Technical difficulties. I agree Luton passes the eyeball test. But that long td to Kolby was caught 7 yards off the line and Kolby made the moves to break away. Not sure I saw Luton hit a pass over 20 yards other than that. Personally I think all 3 qbs see time this year.
Holy shit talk about a sad state of affairs with this football team. After seeing the projected starters, why do we even bother fielding a team?
This is one of those years where you look around and it’s hard to figure out if any of our players would have a place on the too deep of any other Conference team. Love the guy but Smith looks over his head, we have no momentum in recruiting, and possibly the worst roster of any power 5 team.
Heard the Winston-Salem Dash bb game against Myrtle Beach this evening – Nick Madrigal on WSD and Christian Donahue playing for MB. Donahue seems to be doing well. I didn’t realize he was on the MB team and it added interest. Madrigal was pulled in the 7th inning. He’s batting.176.
This from Eggers: Smith brought all the OSU players to Bend — even those injured such as running back Calvin Tyler, who could miss the season with a knee injury, and safety David Morris, likely lost for the year after surgery to repair a small fracture on his left foot.
I’d really hoped Morris would only miss half the season.
It’s weird that several years ago we fired our trainer because of a rash of injuries that seemed to pop up every year. so they go get that gal from the Steelers? or some NFL team, and we still get the same injuries every year. Something’s wrong with corvallis water.
Their athletic shoes are pure shit. My step son issues their garbage religiously and I swear they don’t even use real materials any more, it’s all some kind of plastic.
The Nike SB shoes are the only thing I’ve seen that use real leather/suede.
Fortunately Landry Payne unexpectedly got a 6th year of eligibility so the well hasn’t run dry at free safety. And with the new rule it sounds like Morris can play the last 4 games and still come back next yr classified as a soph
sounds like Morris can play the last 4 games and still come back next yr classified as a soph
That’s what caught my attention, I’d figured Morris would get into a few games and still redshirt, Eggers seems to think he is out for the entire season “likely lost for the year”.
Of course, Eggers also hinted very strongly that Casey was gonna retire.
I know you like Morris and so do I but if you’re looking big picture here, neither Morris or the best QB in college football can save this team, this year. The unrealistic/ uneducated/ novice Beaver fan is hearing all about these crazy numbers that these frosh RB and WR are putting up on the defense and thinking..”Wow, those guys are gonna kill it this year” (shaking my head). Nah… They are running against, what might be one of, if not the worst defense in the nation. A two to three man front that hardly compares to most PAC 12 second/third string D Lineman. It seems the secondary gets hurt just walking on the field (I mean, how many games has D Williams played in for his career- seems like he’s been injured 80-90% of his time here). My biggest concern though, is J Smith being Riley 2.0 and….. continuously trying to get him involved in the program. Here’s my question, and I know a lot of you on this site actually see the detriment that Riley brings to this (or any) program, what is going to happen around game 6 or 7 when there MIGHT be 1 win (I think 0-6 or 7 is very possible at that point) with the; staff, players, program? Do they turn on each other? Because Smith will probably turn to someone for big help, and guess where he’ll turn? Yep, MR! How do you think these coaches on the staff will feel about that? Coaching (especially at this level and beyond) in very ego driven. These guys on staff (IMO) will start to question the first year HC (Smitty) and why he’s turning to MR instead of them. That’s just one of the many reasons I don’t like this hire! I think Smith is an inexperienced young gun, that thinks he can change the world but; he can’t relate to this generation of players (recruiting-leading), he lacks the experience to lead at this point (lack of experience) Lastly, I like Smitty and what he did for the program but I think the Admin and the hiring committee were very selfish with this move! It’s a, cheap, easy and risk-free way for them to bring in a fan favorite (Smith) and say (behind closed doors of course) if he fails, we blame inexperience if he succeeds, we look like geniuses and we spend hardly anything at all! Total bullshit move IMO.
PS- OneOldBeav I’m not saying you think this way, I’m simply sharing my opinion based off of the Morris Comment.
I truly think all the people that act like this was truly a 1-11 team last year based on talent don’t truly understand what it means to lose a team. The players literally quit last year. That sucks and it shouldn’t be excused but its fixable.
Now, I don’t think they win 10 games (or even 6) this year but this idea that they can’t be competitive and win multiple games is ridiculous. If the team buys in to what this staff wants to do (and reports indicate they are) 3-5 wins is likely.
I don’t know where you get your propaganda. But it includes many straw men which you choose to answer in a frenzy.
I agree that your wild scenarios are worrisome. I also don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
If you think that Jefferson will play more than three years of college ball, then you’re either a moron, or you know that he’ll be injured before his payday. The latter is a decent bet, given the sport. But I choose to side with the belief he won’t get Tuerked while here.
I still don’t know who or what you’re talking about with all this talk about people hyping superstar true frosh. That’s all you.
I’m not concerned with pre-made excuses or pre-made conspiracies.
Play the games, and prove you deserve a multi-million dollar salary. If you don’t deserve it, walk away.
I’m not sure if you were responding to my post or just making a general statement. But if you were referring to my post, I never mentioned that last season’s team was a 1-11 talent team. My remarks were talking about this current team, and they are completely different than the personnel and obviously the coaching staff.
I do question your confidence in this unproven staff and the current active players being able to win 3-5 games. I’m not sure how you come to this conclusion? Care to share?
@ BlackBandits
When you are hiring a Head Coach for a Power 5 program in the PAC 12, it’s really tough to hear that as a defense for hiring back someone from the glory days here as a player. With that logic, why don’t we just hire Mitch Singler?
A program should always try to find the best fit for the job. Hiring a a guy with zero head coaching experience is not a good plan when in a situation like this (bottom tier program in the country). Especially when the downfall started with Smith’s role model, Mike Riley’s end of his campaign. Not much has changed, nor will it (IMO) with the same people at the helm!
I don’t recall any FBS head coaches stepping up to apply for the job. There were former coaches rumored. Miles (too expensive for a conservative school) and Jones (ugh!) were all I recall. It was down to a successful OC with several years of FBS experience running an elite O (maybe a second in Yurchich) and an OC with one year of FBS experience running a less than middling O (and proved to have extreme ethics issues with the way he bombed the CW).
If it’s the calcaneal fracture, I can confirm that it’s not healed after three months. It’s simply at the point where you need to retrain yourself on how to land on your feet because dipshits who didn’t have anything resembling degrees in kinesiology or biology or aything that has to with anything but making moola decided that you should carry an extra couple pounds of waste on the ends of your legs… and that it should blow out at a ridiculous rate in order to increase repurchase… and to add some fucking four inch wedge on the back of your sole.
Wtf with that wedge, really rich guy who created the acl repair industry?
Your trainers on circuits shuld be onitsouka tigers. Expect wrong sizing and general bad service. But they are what the major shoe companies used to make well. If your feet are still healthy, Feiyue (sp) is the easiest and most inexpensive route.
My more aesthetic purchases involve puma drift 5s.
I wear keen trails and sandals 60% of the time. But I also grind a comfortable amount of sole off those monsters. I certainly don’t run in them. It’s become a lot harder to customize shoes aftermarket these days. The material is just shit.
But you think everything about everything about economy and economics and that shiny thingy and this shiny thingy and whatever trust fund dumbshit says and whatever….
Sorry… I went into landlord phase.
My properties are the best ever. Nobody makes more money off their properties than I do. I will inflate the value of my current (preferentially my most recent purchases) holdings by 150%. I will obviously default on the loans I took out on that artificially ridiculous valuation that was obviously artificial… then I will be the first and greatest beneficiary of “too big to fail” thus far in the history of people who sucked at the teat of the American Man!
What color is in your mind’s eye right now?
Do you think it’s wrong to judge that? I agree.
Do you think it’s wrong to judge how you act and how we’ve seen everyone act when we say simple little things in public?
Is it something we should tolerate all the time? Is it something we should tolerate sometimes and pick our battles? Is it something we should tolerate never?
Obviously, I’m of the latter.
Obviously, I have a leader of the free world who has no fucking clue what the latter even means.
Trump’s biggest, most lavish skyscraper was built and stands tall right in the middle of your skull.
As far as shoes, like I stated before I can’t even figure out what the fuck most of Nike’s shoes are made of. My step son worships the temple of Chinese labor and his basketball shoes look like plastic ballerina slippers or some shit. They’re so fucking narrow that they deform the kid’s feet and he gets blisters on the ball of his foot but he’s convinced that they’re amazing because they’re expensive.
I have had a few pairs of Keens and they’ve been pretty good overall. They’re actually shaped like a human foot which is novel. I scored a pair of American made Keen hikers for my son and they’ve held up really well. Made in Portland, just like my Danners.
Dumbshit is POTUS. POTUS always has space in my head, because I’m an American.
That we have a deranged, narcissistic chiseler as POTUS isn’t even the problem. The problem is that he’s using the the COTUS as toilet paper, and the fake patriots pretend the emperor’s stains have no stench.
I’ve had equal positions in my skull for each past POTUS. If you don’t like sharing this one’s dishonor, then don’t. Otherwise, you can keep licking that punk bitch’s ass. He gets the same space any POTUS would have. His existence in my head is GIGO, and you dislike it because the space he rents in your head is unearned adoration for his dishonorable deeds.
I can respect those of his zombie cult who make an honest assessment of the trust fund brat who would likely already be in jail were he not born with more wealth than he now has. The pseudo man is nothing without his daddy’s corrupt wealth. You could say he’s like JFK in that way. But his Pulitzer effort would be titled Profiles in Bonespurs instead.
Strangely, I enjoy the predictable stupidity, dishonor and corruption of the fake patriot. I enjoy watching him blow shit up in the half-assed way he does it all, always mugging for the camera and pretending the dullness in his eyes belies some magical potency other than daddy’s money. And I love taking note of each and every dull enabler who believes he’s something he’s not and never will be.
It makes life quite easy. I don’t have to deal with silly things like inhibitions anymore. I also get to be as civil as the pseudo-man himself. After all, he’s POTUS. He is leading by example.
It’s too bad his zombie cult is a bunch of whiny pussies who can’t take even 10% of what they dish. But it’s fun to play with them.
I hope the Money Launderer in Chief remains in office for his full term. He may kowtow to the dominionists, but he’s not a true believer like Pence is. His election kept another dominionist from taking office. Maybe the only good thing to come from Dumbshit failing upward is that teh new state religion might be held at bay.
Then again, he’s a dumbshit who half-asses everything then calls it golden. So who’s to know if the dominionists won’t just take over anyway?
As long as he keeps the cult focused on 30 year-old white supremacist propaganda from some other country, they won’t be clamoring for the destruction of the Al Aqsa complex.
Sometimes you hate twitter because some neanderthal dumbshit trust fund brat can confirm his dumbshit biases with the Rasputin-esque flick of his always phallic fingers.
Sometimes you love it because it actually speaks truth to power.
I think that’s a valid question. As long as I’m into a conspiracy theory – I’d like some data & perhaps a test trial with different shoe brands – if allowed.
It makes complete sense to those of us who grew up when everyone wore chuck taylors (vans if you were rich, pro leathers if you played hoops), the aforementioned tiger (thanks to a company called blue ribbon sports), and adidas sl. I remember a company called pony too. And nike bruins were actually a decent shoe.
I remember my only knee injuries in my life. They’re hard to forget. One was two weeks into everyday PT in Nike Marathons. The other was two days into trying to break in some Nike Blazers. The latter was worse. The former was when I discovered that a heel wedge and cushioning suck for things like running and lifting.
Vans weren’t for rich people, they were for guys who actually rode skateboards. Chucks were the worst skate shoe ever, I could Ollie a hole in the side of a Chuck Taylor in a day. Madrid Fly and Caballero Vans were the best skate shoes made. 1st generation Jordans were skate shoes for rich people. I remember Chris Miller and Mike McGill ran em.
Where I grew up, there were no boarders. So vans were something of an import from kookie California. The people who moved to our area were mostly oil execs. Their kids wore vans but didn’t skate.
I was one of those 1st gen Jordan kids back when I skated, but we weren’t rich. My family was friends with the guy responsuble for getting Jordan signed with Nike(Bob Strausser, not Phil Knight) and he got us early samples of the red/white and black/red Jordans.
Sadly, they got destroyed over the summer and sit in a landfill somewhere. If only I had known people would pay thousands for those same shoes 35 years later.
A little trivia-Kids versions were called “sky jordan” back then instead of “air jordan” because they didnt make air technology for smaller sizes.
Where would you rank airwalks vs vans? I used to like my airwalk hightops
I had a pair of the first airwalks with the lace covers for the vert guys. They were good shoes, broke in decently then wore out quick. I ran a few pairs of the second gen ones and they took a long time to break in but they were made of quality materials and they lasted.
Want to know why?
Because Chris Miller was sponsored by Airwalk but he would only wear them at sponsored events. The rest of the time he’d wear Jordans. So Airwalk bought some Jordans and took them apart and made their new shoes basically Jordan copies for skaters. I went through a few pairs of them but never really fell in love with them because the soles were so stiff.
I loved Vans but they’d Ollie through the sides after a few weeks at most. The Madrid Fly Vans had the suede double thick all the way down the side and a rubber cap on the toe. I’d actually wear out the soles of them before I’d rip through the sides, it was like a miracle haha.
The Cabs were similar in design. I pretty much run checkered slip on Spiccolis in the summer and all suede Cabs the rest of the year these days. Not for skating, just for walking around like an old man haha.
I remember reading once that futbol cleats are better than football cleats for a number of reasons, one of them being a lesser ACL injury rate. But this one tells us that football cleats just generally suck for feet. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28632050
Anybody who plays QB is going to get throttled! The Beavs don’t have the talent upfront on either side of the ball to protect or rush the passer! It doesn’t matter who ya have back their. This team lacks skill and depth at many other key positions besides the QB position.
I am the consummate objective realist. This is going to be a long, painful football season.
The team is undermanned and any false confidence built up by the new staff during camp will be pummeled out of them in the Shoe in front of 110k + Buckeye fans. Already lost two of our premier players before leaving camp. Luck O Da Beavs baby.
The ceiling is 3 wins. More than that and Lil Jon should be PAC coach of the year. Row the Beaver.
I agree man. It really sucks too!! That first game will be a very big indicator of how this team handles adversity. I don’t see 3 wins but I would take it for sure.
This season will be a good test for the coaching staff. Did they really know what they were signing up for? Are they really dedicated to building this program up from the bottom of the hole it’s in? We’ll see how they handle the adversity and if they can keep this team motivated and competing. If they can hold this team together and keep them hungry toward the end of the season then I’ll be optimistic for the future.
Mental breakdown? I’m totally sane but hired the wrong big boy pants that didn’t fit wardaddies who couldn’t respect the process or make plays or win games and I hug ’em and flee to Utah woooooooooooo arm legs and mind!
Good post. One of the pitfalls I see though, is the Riley fans blaming the Andersen regime if Smith goes 1-11 or even win less. Agreed, it will be partial blame but those same people are the ones that ragged the Andersen regime before game 1 of season 1. It was too far out of their comfort zone. So it might give Smith a blank check to have several bad seasons in a row with no pressure because he’s a good ol’ boy! That to me, is one of the main problems here. Any coach worth their salt, will tell you that rebuilding a program (like this one), takes a complete change of culture to build a successful program. I don’t think the culture is any different than the Riley era (from what I have heard/seen).
Nothing against Smith. Loved him as a player but he is over his head in this situation IMO. We’ll see
If he goes on to win a few games and keeps this team competitive, then I will totally agree with you Alpha. Personally, I think winning 3 games alone would be HUGE! I don’t see it.
You’re wrong — you definitely do have something against smith. Jonathan is more a disciple of Chris Peterson (6 yrs) and Dennis Erickson (5 yrs) than he is Mike Riley (3 yrs). It’s also pretty clear that Jonathan already has changed the culture.
9’s fine. He actually stacks up well against other would head coaches around the NCAA. One really poor assistant hire could have scuttled his career before it began. But we just have to watch the product to know what we have. You can’t hide what’s on the field with weird spin.
If we see inconsistent effort with zero consequences, then I will be amazed at his prescience and look to see if he got anything else right. But we can’t really expect clarity from someone who refuse to provide any real basis for a true argument.
Care to enlighten us on how Smith has changed the culture in his few months as the Head Coach already? The culture doesn’t just change overnight. It would take a great/experienced coach longer than this to turn this culture around!
Also, you do realize that Smith was brought to OSU in the late 90’s as a walk-on by Mike Riley right? And that he has brought Riley back (Riley left), then he brought him back again (now as a consultant)?! The amount of seasons with the other respective coaches really doesn’t mean as much. Listen to his pressers. He has very little tone of Peterson and Zero of Coach Erickson.
Looking back at it now I’m not convinced that Simple Jack was Smith’s idea. I’m willing to bet that was a big booster “welcome back, oh by the way Simple Jack just got canned and he’s going to come work for you. Find him a job” type of move. He obviously wasn’t doing any real position coaching and he was gone before they even completed their first camp.
If you think Tibesar hasn’t changed the culture of the defense you’re fucking retarded.
There’s an article, written by a journalist strictly about the defense. I was arguing about the fact that Smith needs to change the culture of the program (not just the defense).
I do want to add something to that “culture change” on defense, does that “change” include, giving up over 200 yards to two true freshman and a few TDs in their first Fall Scrimmage? Your defense should NEVER get beat by the offense early in Fall Camp. I wasn’t at the scrimmage but having been a football coach and having played, I can tell you right now, if a team is giving up that much real estate and scores they are more than likely:
1) Losing the edges (contain)
2) Still arm tackling or not wrapping up the BC
3) taking poor pursuit angles
and/or
4) giving up big plays with miscommunications/ Improper reads pre/post snap
5) Lastly (out of some teams control) lack of talent
One of the things about “coach speak” that always remains is that they ALL say that they do/are going to do all the basics; tackle well, pursue, contain the BC, stay on top of the play (deeper than the deepest), etc…
But, talk is cheap! What you do well and what you don’t do well always show up in games! And what you don’t do well translates to one thing….It’s not that important to you! Or else you would do it! Banker was famous for this!!
The Ohio State punishment is a joke to begin with, and i bet they aren’t enforcing it anyway. Yesterday they just signed a graduate transfer QB from West Virginia. It seems unlikely that happens without Urban’s input.
Recent mention was made of the female trainer who came to the Beavs from the Steelers.
On June 6, 2018, Ariko Iso joined Towson Univerity after less than a year at San Jose State.
She was a “feel good” story, having obtained her degree from OSU and becoming the first full-time female athletic trainer in the NFL. At Towson she has the title: Head Athletic Trainer for Football (the same title she held when with the Beavs).
She left OSU just before the 2017 FB season……….couldn’t fit into “big boy pants”?
Did she quit? Was she told in no uncertain terms that her rehab schedule conflicted with putting meat on the field?
Or was she just plain old fired?
If the former, did she give notice and help the university transition to the new hire?
I mean… just last week you all were blaming her for weird injuries involving people who go play in traffic for hours at a time. You didn’t even know she wasn’t here anymore.
Did she quit? Was she told in no uncertain terms that her rehab schedule conflicted with putting meat on the field?
Or was she just plain old fired?
No idea of the answer, but found it interesting to note that her short stint at SJSU (where she had earned a Phd) was NOT with football. Instead, she was responsible for basketball and cheerleaders.
Seems like a placeholder job for her as she searched for opportunities in FB away from OSU. There could be an interesting story there for a beat writer with time on his/her hands.
She was hired by one of the best NFL franchises ever and held a job with them for almost a decade. She worked for them longer than most of their employees work for them.
One interesting aspect of it all is that Ariko was a huge proponent of the mental health part of any game, including mental acuity as well as counseling.
Feel good?….damned straight.
It’s an honest expression of admiration for an alumni who has had success in their chosen field and decides to return to their alma mater to continue their career. A sign of respect for her achievements in what had been a field dominated by men. A recognition of what she symbolized for the Japanese-American community.
But I think you know that, Jack.
I’m interested in her mental health involvement, gotta link?
My predictions is Luton will get the nod for the first game. Blount will get some work in too when the game gets out of hand.
I’m not convinced that Smith will go with one guy all year. I think he’ll be pretty quick with the hook if Luton struggles early. Plus Luton and Blount are somewhat injury prone.
Kind of old news but I only learned recently Hermiston is going to be playing in a Washington league and compete for their state titles starting this year. Crazy but understandable to their specific circumstances.
Almost time for Ohio State game week prep thread. Looking outwardly, visiting Ohio State right now, is about as good of a time as we could expect to visit Ohio State. Inwardly of course there are lots of question marks and areas to improve. But outwardl positives are, first game of the year, their coach is suspended, they are facing a new coached team with who really knows what for schemes, there will be more fans in the stands displeased with their coaching staff than we will show up with.
Outwardly I don’t thunk we could’ve found a better time to visit an Urban Meyer Ohio State program. Ohio State has historically seen trouble with season openers, but with homecooking they historically have been able to tread water, just well enough sometimes, to survive.
Yeah, I don’t know anything about Ohio State.
If anyone does, fill me in so I can do a writeup, or link me to some reading material so I can get a sense.
The +37 spread should be on body bags not points.
Jonathan Smith will be the oldest head coach in next week’s game since he’s 2 months older than Ohio State interim coach Ryan Day. The Buckeyes lost 7 defensive starters from last year including 5 to the NFL. Their offense is supposed to be all-world but their QB is new, and he’s not a runner like Barrett was. If we had Togiai playing, if their game planning was out of sync from the coach situation and if they totally overlooked us like Stanford did against us last year, then I was hoping we could score a few TDs and make a game of it. We’ll need their QB to really lay an egg. If he’s on, they’ll probably score at will.
I don’t think Togiai is that big a loss. He’s a good athlete, but he had several crucial drops last year. In the pass game, there’s no reason the younger guys can’t step into his shoes.
Togiai is a great athlete who has proven that he can get open. His dropsies and QBs missing him still scare the hell out of the opposing coaches, because they know that even a team with the collective yips can put it all together for a couple quarters and change the outcome every now and then.
The projected skill of the incoming TEs mitigates his loss. The anticipation of the dropsies does so further. Maybe he overcame them, and his loss is more real than we expected?
Can”t prove a negative, so we’ll never know. But we do lose experienced depth and great athleticism, despite mitigating factors. So it’s at least a loss in terms of not being able to fully utilize the roster to protect the group as a whole.
If you think Buckeye gans are going to be “displeased with their coaching staff,” you’re kidding yourself.
Fans in Columbus worship at the altar of W’s. That’s it.
The Buckeyes have started slow under Urban, and there’s not a lot of experience coming back, BUT there will be way more talent on their sideline than there is on ours.
Are you going to the game? I’m not, nor my Beaver traveling friends. And we’ve been to all these big non conference games over the years. 105,000+ will be in attendance, what percentage will be Oregon State fans? What percentage of that crowd harbors some displeasure with the coaching behavior situation? I’m thinking 1% vs less than 10%.
I’m going, Live in Nashville, anytime the Beavs are less than a days drive I’ll make the effort to go. I went to women’s tournament games in Knoxville and Lexington earlier this year.
I’m mostly going because Horseshoe has been on my list of Stadiums to visit. Expecting to lose by 40, but I’m going to have a good time.
Having a hard time writing anything about this Ohio State game. I don’t know anything about Ohio State (I’d have to watch film and read writeups about them). Assume they’re good to great as always.
What do you guys think in terms of a write up? Like Keith Pankey, I’m not even sure of an angle to take other than the spread (37) should be for body bags instead of points.
Beavs are getting paid to go 0-1. Better than not getting paid to go 0-1, I suppose, as long as we can remain somewhat injury free.
Might as well start the SUU preview research to get a head start.
I don’t know anything about any of these teams…so out of touch. I ignored football for the past 7 months. Some of that due to moving, and some just being disenchanted with the sport and bored/disgusted (Riley) with the Beavs.
If anyone wants to chime in with writeups just email me.
I’ve looked into recruiting, since they’re untouched by the new and (yet to be seen) OSU football program. I tried looking at position groups but found pretty much slightly better talent than we’ve had for a couple years and a complete variable on how they’ll be used. Until I actually see something on the field, this coach and team are just unknown.
gobeavs92 does have a point that we can’t claim culture change until we see it… and that Bikey’s hire (I’m not against him being an unpaid consultant, given we’re in compliance) was a major indication that nothing will change. But we part ways beyond that. The rest sounds like the negative exposure to pollyannas–as weird and confusing as their rhetoric.
For those scoring at home, Meyer’s two most recent tweets are public apologizes for misspeaking at a microphone to questions he knew were coming and had ample time to prepare for.
“And the first shall be first.”
I spent the weekend with a buddy who works with Tibesar’s brother at Children’s Hospital in the Twin Cities. I told him to try get some info from him about the outlook of the team and the talent and instructed his wife to hound him about it. Hopefully they talk.
Blount > Luton
And the controversy starts!
Though…I agree with you based on what I’ve seen from both up to this point. Smith says that Colletto has made a big jump in that latest media interview.
I’m hoping Colletto or Blount are somehow our Kellen Moore, Luke Falk…
Weed in Colorado must be extremely potent compared to Oregons. Maybe it’s the thin air?
Which part are you disagreeing with? That Blount looked better than Luton? Or hoping that we have one of those under-recruited QBs every team but us seems to land? Not sure how you can disagree with a “hope”, so I’m guessing you like Luton.
The hope part. We dont have what you’re hoping for. If you want to hope, hope we have a run game that works and we dont pass more then 10 times a game. I’m thinking even Luton could look good handing the ball off every play.
Well that’s pretty stupid, then. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
Disagreeing with a person’s pipe dream just makes no sense.
Lol, you’re awful sensitive to a joke.
Oh okay. I guess make better jokes?
What controversy?
Let’s just run the ball enough that our tactical focus in the passing game is capitalizing on the element of surprise.
Sounds a lot like Smilin’ Mike’s oft stated “intention”
His mantra was “balance,” which always meant 70% pass, 30% run, pass on every third and short.
Then after every game he would say stupid shit like “I wish we would have ran the ball more.”
And then get a standing ovation by the brainwashed old guard
The surprise will be if we have a QB who can hit a reciever in stride beyond 15 yards.
Let’s just run the damn ball.
Eggers has an opinion on which freshmen could play:
3-4-4 defense?…….Eggers sees a 2-4-5 or even a 2-3-6
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/402722-299364-whos-doing-what-in-beavers-camp
I wouldn’t read into any of the media reports. Both sides of the ball are pretty bad so it’s easy to make the other side look good at times. Quality of competition is low.
Just like back when GA took over, lots of fluffy practice reports. Collins looked good but only because the defense was so bad.
I’m sure we’ll see plenty of reports where the new straight talking coach is now here and tells guys how it really is. Strength coach saying how the prior regime didn’t properly prepare players. Blah blah blah.
If you really want to read into practice reports, the good signs would be the defense constantly dominating the offense. Defense would be the one side that could keep the beavs close. We know the offense will struggle so if they are having success against the defense, well then prep for a lot of 50 points against games.
Agreed, good points.
I look at practice reports primarily to learn a little about injuries, facts that seem odd (lookin’ at Elu’s weight, for example), and indications of discipline issues.
You always want to see defense dominating offense in spring/fall camps. Anything short of that, and you’re going to be a pretty bad team.
I can’t believe how similar Smith sounds to Riley.
It shouldn’t surprise you, you’ve been saying they were the same from the time he hired Riley. You have preconditioned your ears to pick out whatever confirms your original position – human nature.
It’s not my ears. It’s reality.
Well… you do have to hear it before you can compare.
But it shouldn’t be a surprise given they’ve been stuck together for months.
Men start thinking and speaking like each other when they have zero outside influences. So the zombie coaching, while overstated, was an apt term. Those who said an assistant wouldn’t influence the outcome or the disposition of 9 were wrong.
But it should be noted that reality is more subtle than angry makes it out to be… for now. If he says we want to run the ball then throws 50 times, 9 loses all credibility… as did the two coaches ahead of him.
Coach speak is all similar. It is left vague so that the listener can subjectively fill in the gaps without the coach actually saying anything. If JS starts talking about needing to build an identity after three losses or says that he wants to establish a balance and throw 75% then I would say you have a legit gripe. Preseason conclusions allow for your biases to creep in.
Forgot about Kolby Taylor, 4 star receiver from Chandler that is supposedly over breaking his leg every 30 seconds.
Receivers are there, here’s hoping someone can actually deliver the ball.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-wr-taylor-carving-a-role-after-two-broken/article_df73a242-9e1c-5cf7-b418-fcbd60dceeb5.html
Yeah we have two 4-star receivers and decent TEs (Togia and Sharp)…really liked Sharp as a receiver out of HS. We’ll have to see what type of shape he’s in.
Edit: we also have Smalls at TE. Position of strength, it seems. Should help our bad QB and make him look a little better, whomever that winds up being.
Sharp won’t be playing and will more than likely redshirt
Landry Payne got another year. Little more depth at Safety. Sounds like Noah T. is still limping
The lure of continuing to play football after a broken back or broken legs requiring years of surgical mending is a curious thing.
That’s football..?? Or most contact sports for that matter
This guy committed: https://247sports.com/Player/Gianni-Hunt-46043153
Pretty decent offer sheet. Nice to see a couple true point guards.
According to what I read, the Beavs so far have the #14 nationally ranked recruiting class for WT….for what it’s worth.
CR recruited well too, can WT turn the corner on the coaching aspect of, well, coaching?
Back to the QB question.
3 reasons why should Luton start:
a) He broke his neck, and it is a neat deal for him to start
b) He gets a new OC to throw for
c) He’s really tall and can sling it like Derek Anderson
3 reasons why Blount should start:
a) He had his leg shredded 2 years ago, neat deal for him to comeback
b) He redshirted and refused to play last year
c) Pot shops vote for Blount to start
3 reasons why Colletto should start:
a) He won the big school Washington High School state championship 3(?) years ago
b) We can flood the blog with “Crazy Legs Colletto” references
c) His nickname is Heisman caliber like Johnny Football, Crazy Legs Colletto for Heisman!
My vote is for Colletto simply based on the possibility of some national attention out of him. Let the young guys start and grow.
“Lunch Pail U” needs to be transformed to “Fun Nickname U”
Luton is now “The Rifleman”
Blount is now “The Redshirt”
Colletto is “Crazy Legs”
What other nicknames would be useful for garnering some undeserved ridicule from the national press? I know they will get plenty of deserved ridicule anyway.
This season is already christened “The Return”, to what? The Return to mediocre from terrible? The Return of the Pink Panther? The Return of the Jedi? The Return of Mike Riley, a horror movie?
Or is it just “The Return of the Walk-On”?
IMHO, you have too much spare time on your hands…..
I laughed out loud several times.
Luton’s nickname should be “longshanks Luton”. The guy looks like a giraffe tossing a football.
Blount should be “boneheaded Blount”…based on what I saw in 2016 he’d have like 5 good plays then one boneheaded play. Crazy Legs Colletto stands.
I find it “beaver fitting” that the starting QB of a P-12 team could be someone who couldn’t start for his junior college team last season.
Still no movement in QB recruiting, despite learning Johnson is planning to sign with Penn St over a week ago. Makes me wonder, does it make sense to have your OC also be the QB coach?
If QB is the most important position in football, why don’t more teams have a dedicated QB coach who can focus on fundamentals and recruiting full time and not be hampered by having to develop a game plan and build/install a brand new offensive system for a brand new team?
Yet tight ends get their own dedicated position coach plus a graduate assistant.
Just seems like the allocation of coaching resources could be better spread out, to help development. I guess that’s where Riley’s latest departure really threw a monkey wrench into our staffing, as he could have shifted between TEs and QBs. Thanks again, Mike.
It will take a couple seasons of consistent effort and scheme before I’m sold on Lindgren.
And that’s if I erase his resume from my mind.
Maybe they just don’t like any of the other QBs enough to offer.
Beggars can be choosers.
Better to go with what you have than to throw away another scholarship on a guy that isn’t good enough.
In my opinion, finding a QB who can develop into a player with a couple of years coaching isn’t wasting a scholarship. There’s value in that player serving as a backup, sideline signal caller, scout team qb.
I don’t go for the argument that a specific class just isn’t deep enough at a certain position. If every team took that approach, nobody else would be signing QBs either, but I see teams like Penn St and Arizona State already with 2 QBs in their 2019 classes.
You have a finite group of guys in any given class who will be competing for an even smaller number of available scholarships. Those players fall somewhere on a bell curve every year, and you hopefully get somebody toward the high end vs the low end.
Either way, there’s no guarantee next year’s class will be any better/deeper, and then the problem becomes even more magnified as you need to sign 2 guys to make up for striking out in 2019.
I didn’t say there was no value in a scout team/developmental QB but the player you are offering still needs to be worthy of said offer.
If you miss out on the guys you deem worthy you shouldn’t just hand out a scholarship to hand one out. If the only guys left are guys you don’t view as scholarship worthy than you can grab offer a few PWO slots instead and develop that guy while saving the scholarship for a better talent at another position of need.
Is it possible with the new NSD LOI, that they are holding a scholarship for a QB next year? perhaps a JC guy? Just a thought since a JC guy who signs in February would count towards the 2019 class, not the 2020 class. Am I mistaken in this interpretation?
I understand wanting a HS QB, but without showcasing your offense, it’s hard to sell a recruit on what you intend to run, vs what they can see you running. 2020 class should be better than the 2019 class.
Lots of changes coming down the pipeline for NCAA basketball.
According to Jeff Borzello on twitter:
There may be more info added later. you can find his account here:
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello
I’m guessing the “elite” players will only be a small population of bluechippers, which doesn’t seem fair to the rest of the college kids who still can’t hire an agent without forgoing the rest of their college career……like Drew
The investigation one is interesting, because it sounds like they’re basically setting themselves up to take any findings from the current FBI probe and use those FBI findings to enforce penalties on schools, without conducting a parallel investigation. The lifetime and postseason bans also seem to be setting up for upcoming penalties they plan to enforce after the FBI probe is complete.
While everyone complained about the NCAA being inefficient in these matters, this is the first time I’ve seen the schools agree to allow the NCAA actually be efficient. I never understood the schools who complained about “onerous” this or “over-reaching” that when talking about the NCAA… other than those being dog-whistles to the stupids so they can help to pile on the false narratives.
The schools decide what the NCAA can and can’t do. It’s never been the other way around. I think the majority of schools who are losing out to the oligopoly that always forms when regulation is insufficient have finally awakened to that fact.
Other than that, I think 15 OVs is too much, even over two years (really more like 1.5 years, if that). Five in one cycle is too few. 10 seems about right.
The hiring of agents isn’t the biggest news here. The throwaway statement at the end is the big news.
Wun-n-dun is going away?
Please tell me this is true. Just make it like baseball, and we’re good to go.
I think the 1-and-done rule has been on the chopping block all year. David Silver talked about sometime recently, but I’m too lazy to look for a link.
Agree, the baseball model would be nice to see, but I don’t think that is the plan here. I think they’ve basically going back to the model they had before the 1 and done rule existed, where guys can go to the NBA at any point after high school is over, except now, the ones who are considered special, are allowed to hire temporary agents to test the waters before they make a mistake and lose out on school.
I don’t really like the special treatment for “elite” players, but at least it’s a step in the right direction.
Is that like a mix between Davis stern and Adam silver???
This is an improvement but I think the baseball model still makes more sense, once you choose college you should have to stay 3 years (although I’d buy an argument for 2)
Supposedly the top 100 high school players will be eligible to enter the draft and see where they stand.
I believe all college players can so Drew would have been allowed under the new rule.
This publication is saying the Heimlich contract in Taiwan is still under review and hasn’t been rescinded up to this point, despite other reports we’ve seen. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, but as of now there’s still an outside shot he could remain and play. My guess is the public pressure on the team will cause them to drop him.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/latest-on-luke-heimlich.html
A friend in Taiwan says there’s a minor uproar because of it. Apparently the Monkeys (reigning champions) know all the legalities and pursued him. Then the league tried to impose this rule, and they essentially said, “Screw off. If you can show us his criminal record, we’ll comply with your rule.”
But there are enough fans making enough noise to make it really uncomfortable. The interesting thing is that the noisiest fans are American expats.
For perfect clarity, the “they” in “they essentially said” is the Monkey management? Is Luke’s “criminal record” available somewhere? It’s off the books in Washington but not in, for example, Oregon? Given Luke’s background, I can’t imagine him in Taiwan but would hope for any start somewhere for him.
Yes… the Monkeys management knew what they were getting into.
As discussed, these pre-season practice reports have very limited value. That said, Lundeberg tweets :
Jay Irvine had a pick six of Jake Luton on the second play of live 11-on-11s, but he appeared to suffer an upper body injury later on. Irvine did not return.
Blount > Luton
That’s about as Oregon State as it gets. Luton throws a pick and Irvine gets injured, on the same play. Irvine is one of those guys I’ve always had high hopes for, but he just can’t catch a break from the injury bug. Hopefully it’s nothing serious this time.
Luton is going to deplete our secondary with all the picks he’s hucking this Summer
Well at least Jake is back to his old self after that injury.
Reichner had surgery yesterday. Must be a broken bone or worse. We are unbelievably thin on the D-Line, we’ll have to play nickel base just to get 11 on the field. Week 3 @ Nevada might end up being one of our best chances for a win this year so hopefully Reichner’s back for that one, but it doesn’t sound good.
Tibesar in the KEZI interview after the first full contact practice 11 vs 11 with tackling to the ground: “I can tell you based on today’s live tackling that we’ve got a lot of work to do still”
Heard broken foot.. Not easy to come back from in my experience. I bet he misses a lot of time
I bet he does not play this year.
Is he eligible to redshirt? He was a JC transfer
OT: BTN did their camp visit to tOSU. Regarding the D….”It looked like the NFL combine.”
Front four is going to be a nightmare. Serious talent and depth.
Now THERE is a reason to start Luton.
Lundeberg calls the D-line ” terrifyingly thin “, and agrees with the Blount>Luton take mentioned above.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/print-specific/column/osu-football-observations-from-the-first-week-of-fall-camp/article_1e15e7b2-7f2a-5d26-a7d6-fdbd850345cc.html
http://sportswatchplus.com/commentary-accused-sex-offender-luke-heimlich-getting-raw-deal/ Good read
It is a good read, but I don’t see how the logjam is ever broken unless the ex-wife admits on record that she coerced her daughter or made up the story (if that is what happened). Otherwise, he’s forever a child molester in most of the public’s view.
What would be the legal authority to question her after the case is closed (for everybody except Luke)?
I don’t think there is since he was not convicted of anything. Hard to think of a better scenario to destroy someone’s life and have no repercussions, but I’m no legal expert.
Mannion went 3 for 11 in first half and got pulled at halftime. I wish I could blame the fact that no 1string players are playing but his throws just haven’t looked good.
I bet most of the mainstream media will bury this one:
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mother-zach-courtney-smith-claim-ex-ohio-state-assistant-victim-retaliatory-plot-ex-wife-223132593.html
Doesn’t fit the standard pre-approved media narrative.
Why didn’t this report speak to the texts between them?
Does his confirming that he choked and beat her while on vacation need to be buried because it doesn’t fit this pre-approved narrative?
To give you some perspective, nobody is saying she isn’t crazy. But this whole series about blaming her for all of it is saying that he was/is not crazy.
So it follows that he is so not crazy that he remains with her through all this while also being so honorable that he cheats on his marriage… because he’s a stable person.
She may not be the nicest/sanest of people, but that doesn’t mean he gets a pass to do (at the very least) what he admitted to doing in his pathetic apology texts.
“pre-approved media narrative”
Who knew that was going to trigger Jack? Scotty knew! :)
Text screenshots are irrelevant to the point of what angles nearly always get reported in mainstream media and which nearly never do. You can guess which bucket stories that paint an accuser as possibly anything less than a saintly paragon of honesty and justice fall into. That’s what my comment was about.
I love how you whine about getting exactly what you ask for.
Scotty at the store: Who knew they would let me walk out of the store with a jug of milk after I gave them money? Scotty knew!
I’m pretty sure any normal person who looks at a relationship that has spanned several years of abuse and his philandering can determine that neither person was in their right mind while in the relationship. But his stalking, harassing and assaulting her for two years afterward makes her the crazy one?
And those texts were only dropped once he claimed he was innocent of it all, and tOSU minions were already out in full force blaming her for everything. It was a little funny how quickly they shut up.
You’ve once again written paragraphs without addressing the original point.
There is no original point.
You’re either soft in the head, too lazy to have done a cursory review of the mutitude of evidence (that doesn’t correspond with this ^^ story), or you just want to foment the stupids in order to validate your blaming women for being victims.
Consider:
1. The dominating narrative in Columbus has bee to bash the wife from hour one. So your concerns that drunk shits who beat their wives aren’t getting a fair shake has no foundation.
2. Lynn Bruce’s whole story is essentially, “This one time, when my precious baby boy was sober, he only carefully manhandled that crazy bitch. And he says he didn’t do anything. And she became angry when she found out he was a liar and unfaithful to his vows. But I raised him right.”
3. If you think biased crap and three allegories makes your point, whatever you think your point may be, then consider this unfounded rumor. Both of these people are not well liked by the Columbus community who have to have contact with them. They’re a couple drunks who abuse each other–one emotionally, one emotionally and physically. He’s a steaming, entitled turd who was gifted a $300k job by virtue of who his grandfather is, nothing more. Any of our coaches last year would have been an upgrade over him in the skill department.
But if you want to die on that hill, by all means, charge.
I suppose he can claim affluenza. That’s a thing now.
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-terrell-murder-verdict-20180715-story.html
Imagine this is 30 years from now, and it’s at OSU instead of tOSU. It’s Bikey’s grandson, and he’s pulling down millions solely because of that legacy. But we’re winning… and he has a neat story (if we squint hard enough)… and he’s a legacy of Mike Riley… and Trent Bray, the greatest coach in OSU history, wouldn’t just let something like this slide… because his teams win.
What kind of discussions do you think we would have here? What kind of discussions do you think the pollyannas would be having?
That’s what’s happening there.
Your topics are fun.
May I make a request? Can you bring up chemtrails one of these times?
Jack hittin the sauce early this weekend
Some red sauce.
This Instant Pot thingy is pretty cool. I think I like it as much as my blender.
I must be doing something right.. O Live has finally bounced one of my posts…I think it was the reference to old bone spur that did it.
If you think commenting on O-live is doing something right I don’t know what to tell you.
Well, there is that…
They are awfully sensitive. I was banned some time ago – not sure why – think it was because I questioned the O’s qualifications to make legal judgments regarding Luke.
I might be late to the party, but Oregon state announces that retro benny the beaver is back as an official secondary branding.
Sweet, another reason to buy overpriced Beaver gear!!!
Ideally they will slowly transition retro Benny back into being used for primary branding.
Always been the best logo.
Agreed.
Just make his fur one (or all) of our colors, instead of brown.
Nikegon can have (or run away from) the earth tones.
Beav’s in the top ten…..sort of.
Worst all-time win percentages in CFB (min. 1,000 games)
1. Wake Forest – .407
2. Indiana – .415
3. Rice – .435
4. Kansas St – .442
5. Iowa St – .443
6. Tulane – .446
7. Northwestern – .448
8. Oregon St – .454
9. Kansas – .465
10. Kentucky – .468
2:52 PM · Aug 10, 2018
Hey, Edmonton of the CFL has a quarterback named “Mike Reilly”, they lost last night to BC with a last drive with sloppy time management. Must be something in the name???
If I was a Gopher alum, I would also give up on hockey to go play football.
Anybody spending their Saturday at the scrimmage?
I’m looking forward to our first Silverstream report of the year
Oh jeez, how many more players will get injured this weekend? Or, how many players are going to fake injury to avoid getting injured badly in game 1?
I’m going with my son; I don’t expect much but it is good away to kill a Sat afternoon
Thank god for Kansas.
Fewest road wins in CFP Era
1. Kansas – 0
2. Oregon St – 2
3. UConn – 3
3. Illinois – 3
3. Kent St – 3
3. Virginia – 3
7. ULM – 4
7. UMass – 4
7. Purdue – 4
7. SJ State – 4
7. Syracuse – 4
and both of those road wins were in 2014
Wow, you Beavers are a sorry bunch of losers! You should put on your big boy pants like me and just quit!
OT… this is both sad and maddening.
https://twitter.com/byjoelanderson/status/1028049721443667968
Agreed. With all the emphasis on player safety and universities wanting to protect themselves legally, it’s incredible people are still being hospitalized and possibly dying from exhaustion from practice. Not sure if it’s gotten worse with the coaching and NFL salary stakes being as high as they are now, or if we just hear about it more now.
Loser. He should be sued for personal assets rather than the college.
The trainer and Durkin are both former employees of Urban Meyer.
Yes yes, accuse anyone who disagrees with you at all of “blaming the victims” *eyeroll* Never mind I said absolutely nothing about these people and the comments are solely about what information the media chooses to promote and what they bury.
I never said nothing happened. The article about the mothers’ thoughts and accounts of the relationship is an interesting part of the whole story, and though we know the mainstream media is having a field day reporting all things about the matter, Urban and Ohio State right now, I believed they would be leaving this out.
Reading comprehension and being rational were never your strong suits, though, Jack(s) so I forgive you.
But hey, I know how it is. When you have no real argument to make, just accuse your opponent of whatever outrageous thing you want and hope it sticks. It’s the American way, after all. You’re a true patriot!
Are you still going on about this?
I accuse someone blaming the victim of blaming the victim. It follows that, if she’s a crazy bitch who is solely to blame (as tOSU fan and everyone else in denial has been doing since day 2), then tOSU is headed for a wrongful termination suit. But they fired him and put Meyer on admin leave pending investigation… because you bet they’re going to bury the loudest, most stupid narrative in Columbus, Ohio.
I don’t care what you never said. This weak, analogous piece basically says it’s okay to beat and stalk your partner if you think s/he’s crazy. There is nothing more to glean from it, given the evidence, not biased analogies.
… blah blah… weak ad hominems… blah blah
You really need to expand your lexicon beyond these tired tropes. I’m not accusing you of anything. When you write with someone else’s tired ideas, you’re pegged as someone without original thought. That’s not my doing.
Outrageous!
Come on. Can’t we just go off on another one of your topics? Maybe something more related to our team? I feel dirty just talking about tOSU.
Oh… hey… did you know there were some football players at tOSU who were caught cheating on homework and exams? Apparently, the prof who brought forth the very solid concerns with evidence had to watch as they disappeared into the ether. tOSU football has a modus operandi. When they sense they’re under attack, they counter with psychological warfare. In the prof’s case, “someone” leaked personnel files related to personal therapy administered by a tOSU-chosen therapist.
If I really wanted to extend this discussion, I would play with ideas reasoning why you get sucked into this groupthink garbage ideology. I can come up with a half dozen models. Some of them are outrageous.
Given that you seek to normalize outrageous, I don’t understand your whining.
After all, this is your conversation that you chose to have here.
“Are you still going on about this?” (then proceeds to write a rambly wall of text lol)
“This weak, analogous piece basically says it’s okay to beat and stalk your partner if you think s/he’s crazy.”
I don’t think you read the same article the rest of us read. If so, you sure jump to some strange conclusions.
Didn’t bother reading the rest of your wordiarrhea, and you’ve exhausted my store of energy for stupid internet arguments for the month, so you’ll have to entertain yourself for a while (and boy do you have the imagination to.) If by some chance you get bored and need some triggers, just holler – happy to help!
I already requested chemtrails.
I see you as someone who should have all of the nothings and ignoring all of the facts that make up that stupidity.
Let’s just start it up now.
Maybe I should put it in terms you’ll understand.
Quit yer whining. If you write like a skank, you’re just asking for it.
Btw, angry, there’s a bug on mobile where replies keep showing up on the bottom and not in the thread. Tried 2 browsers and same thing. Doesn’t happen on desktop.
Hm. Weird. I’ll have to look into it.
How long has this been happening?
Maybe a week or so? Not sure exactly.
That’s a bad sign. WordPress updated about a week ago. Maybe the comment platform isn’t compatible.
Gress up with a practice report. Includes some injury info:
“Smith said cornerback Jay Irvine, who left Wednesday’s practice late and appeared to hurt his right arm,… On Friday, Irvine was sidelined with a sling. Also of note, safety David Morris was not in pads on Friday.
“Most of these guys are the typical training camp bumps and bruises,” Smith said.
Anyone heard more about Morris?
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-notebook-beavers-ready-for-first-scrimmage/article_ea816d6b-c02a-58d7-b6b5-3e068425ca41.html
“The Return of an Icon”
Retro Benny. But with the annoying Nike symbol….
http://osubeaverstore.com/Product/List?category=c97ae805-874d-4117-abb2-3ef90b928210
The swouche is less annoying than having to have go beavs on every item. It’s more recognizable as a beaver than is the beavershark or the angry poop smear. Just put Oregon State University/OSU on it, and be done.
Read today that Benny will make a comeback on a special Nike helmet/uniform against Cal.
I bet he makes appearances more frequently in the near future.,,
So, a commuter plane was stolen from seatac airport this evening and later crashed (lots of things happened before the crash and after take off). That plane was the a Alaskan/Horizon Airlines painted in Beaver colors according to flight tracker.
Luck ‘o’ da beavs?
Pic of what it looked like (not the plane though) https://airlinesfleet.com/tag/alaska-airlines-oregon-state-university-beavers-plane-colors/
How do you know it was that plane?
Because that’s what it comes up on flight tracker under the planes registration number.
Edit, I check a diffrent tracker and the plane is coming up with a normal paint job. Now I’m not sure of which is correct. I could be that this plane was at one time painted in beaver colors and was changed back without an update to tracker or one tracker doesnt show paint schemes.
Anyway some asshole stole a plane and did acrobatics with it before plowing it in to an island.
He was flying it?
Wow, check out this move he pulled off just barely above the water. Pretty nuts.
https://twitter.com/jkznd4/status/1028155212496887808?s=09
“Talk to me Goose.”
I was always told by aircraft engineers that commercial liners couldn’t stay together under the stresses of rolls or lifting off the deck like that. Only the P3 was designed to hold up under those stresses.
That was 25 to 30 years ago. But it’s still impressive the wings didn’t just fall off.
Also… 9/11 truthers can scratch the “lay people can’t fly planes… flying planes is hard” half of their argument off their manifesto. Poor Dumbshit just gets dumber.
I guarantee he overstressed the fuck out of that airframe when he looped that thing, and probably most of those hard turns he made. Overstress has more to do with how fast you were going when you decided to pull a certain maneuver rather than just the maneuver itself.
<——Former USMC F/A-18 Airframes Mechanic who performed dozens of overstress inspections after pilots came into the break too fast and overstressed their aircraft.
Also, flying an aircraft isn’t hard. Flying an aircraft without damaging it beyond repair, not crashing and successful landings are the hard part.
You and I know this.
Half of the truthers’ reasoning that 9/11 couldn’t have happened as it did was that, “a ayrab persun lurnin’ piloting on a trainer can’t fly a cumershal jet.”
Landings are the hard part.
Landing a U-2 is even harder.
Sucker crashed 3 miles from my house
Did you see or hear him or the jets flying?
Didn’t see or hear a thing. I’d gone to bed. May 18 1980 8:30 am. Mt St Helens blasted me out of a sound sleep in Seattle. My parents 60 miles South didn’t hear a thing.
Well it sounds like you missed a crazy evening.
Sucker crashed 3 miles from my house
Luton looked the best of QBs in my opinion, Jermar Jefferson and Jesiah Irish looked like freshman who could contribute this year. Pass Rush looked improved
5-12? You his uncle?
Brendan Slaughter with beaversedge said that yesterday was Bount’s worst day since camp started
You mean Friday? I read that was not a stellar day for Blount… 9-11 111 Y looks better than 5-12 97 Y on paper.. Especially since 63 of the 97 Y came on a pass to Timmy
Not Friday. He was referring to the scrimmage as Blount’s worst day so far.
Saw the same comments on Twitter about Luton and the 2 freshman. Appreciate the post. We’ll suck this year and probably next but if these guys can play, year 3 will be exciting
Who played dline?
Starters were Kalani Vakameilalo, Isaac Hodgins, and Andrzej Hughes-Murray
Is adrejz DE now exclusively ?? What up wit lamone, katoa?
I think so, Thor isn’t on the roster and Lamone was running on the second team D Line with Elu, Miki Fifita, and Garcia
Andrzej is in that OLB / Hybrid rush role. Not technically a d end. He’ll still be playing 5 technique when on the line or in a regular OLB position depending on down and distance. Sounds like Hughes Murray – KEE , Hamiclar and even Issac Garcia will all be used in that capacity. This is the biggest whiff from the last staff that is already being remedied and I love it. Fixing the non existent pass rush.
From the interviews, I like the defensive attitude.
Nall goes for 69 yards on a run in the 3rd…about 95 yards on 10 carries for the night, one catch for 9 yards.
https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/1027727929105498113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1027727929105498113&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oregonlive.com%2Fnfl%2Findex.ssf%2F2018%2F08%2Fwatch_chicago_bears_ryan_nall.html%23incart_river_index
Is Christian Wallace still on the team?
Yes, he had probably 5 or 6 carries for 20/25 yards today
Just got home from family day scrimmage. Not much to say other than Jefferson and Irish stood out for true freshman. Also thought Flemmings looked like a guy who could make some explosive plays, despite being the smallest guy on the field.
Quitoriano is bigger than I expected. He and Smalls look like they will be better backup TEs than we had last year already.
QB still looks like our shakiest position.
The whole event was very quiet, with the low end bass frequency bumping along to whatever the playlist was, but none of the high frequency sound or lyrics coming through. Just made for an overall strange humming and thumping sound throught the 2 1/2 hours they were on field. Maybe it was just because of where i was sitting?
Oh, and OSU still somehow finds a way to f up what should be the most fan friendly part of the day by cutting off the autograph lines before the last 10-20 fans even get a chance to meet any players.
“Just a warning, we need to cut the lines off in a few minutes because our players have a team meeting to attend”
I swear our athletic department needs to take classes in customer service and line control logistics. It’s not like there were even that many fans in attendance. Imagine how many people would go home unhappy if you cut the line off that quickly with a moderately sized crowd.
This was only a few hundred people, maybe.
It wouldn’t be that difficult to have your team meeting a little bit later and actually have time to do the signing session as advertised, without making fans feel like they’re being kicked out.
To their credit, the players were very accomodating, friendly and just all seemed like they actually wanted to make the moment special for the kids.
Our sports marketing team, not so much. They made the fans feel like they were in the way of their remaining weekend plans.
Also, downtown Corvallis has really transformed into a pretty cool little area to spend a nice summer evening. It earns my vote for best college town in the Pac12.
Oh yeah, and there’s a new chainsaw sound effect for 3rd down. It sounds more distant and echoing, like it’s off in the distance in a forest. But sounds more like an actual chainsaw vs a mating cow, like the old one. Longer duration too. I grabbed audio and posted in the twitter feed, although the recording is pretty quiet.
Sounds like an improvement. I’ve hated that the Pdx timbers could embrace chainsaws in a cool way while we’ve made it a goofy joke. A real-sounding effect is a start.
Link to youtube video?
Fwiw, i thought Blount looked to be the best QB option of the 3. Just seemed to be more poised running the offense than Luton. It was tough to get a good read on the QBs though, because they were subbed in and out so frequently yesterday, none of them had time to develop a rhythm.
Blount 9-13 111 Y 69% Comp
Luton 5-12 97 Y 41% Comp
On paper Blount looked better as well.
Thanks, i hadn’t seen their stats yet. I also had my kids with me, so they make it hard to see alot of plays and details. Blount just seemed to pass the eyeball test better. Plus I think Jake threw a pick on his 3rd play of the day, which automatically put him behind in my book.
I’m hoping they can just stay healthy
I’m still baffled the media keeps labeling Luton as the better passer? Not sure if they even have watched him play? My bet is they just see 6’7″ Senior…
NCAA/CWS here in Omaha did the same thing with the line being cut right when I was next in line for the baseball autograph session.
Jim Wilson finally returns to tweet this on the scrimmage, points out the 2/5 FG stat:
Beaver scrimmage: Freshman RB Jermar Jefferson ran for 100 yards and scored two TD’s & WR Jesiah Irish had 100+ receiving yards & two TD’s. Defense played w/o four prominent DB’s. FG kickers went 2-5 on the day with longest try 46 yards. Nothing new at QB
I had a dream a few nights ago that MR’s contract as the HC for San Antonio fell through and he got fired. He in turn came crawling back to OSU for his role back. Which in my dream was granted and he became the Assistant HC again. I’m glad to find it was only a dream after reading this post and not reality!
It’s a dream…for now.
more like Groundhog Day
Heard Langsdorf is working for the quacks now. #TPB
Langs is listed on the uck site as a “Football Analyst”, while Riley is listed on the Beaver site as, simply, an “Analyst”.
Worth noting (or maybe not) Riley’s twitter still shows him as, Beaver Football “Assistant Head Coach”
I’m sure ol’ mike doesnt even know how to sign in to his Twitter account, let alone know the password.
Agreed. Just another example of sloppy work and lack of attention to detail by an athletic department headed by one of the highest paid AD’s in the conference.
MR’s seven months on the payroll allowed his PERS II retirement benefits to rise ~$13k per year.
And now that he’s not employed by OSU anymore, he can go ahead and restart those pension payments.
That’s a neat deal.
I thought he was still employed by them?
Hip, hip, hooray!(?)
Anyone see the latest Last Chance U?
Holy shit that coach is bad. Worse than Buddy Stevens. He should probably be sued for some type of workplace abuse.
He’s Roseanne’s second cousin
looks like a fatter GA. I wouldn’t play for him. It’s not overly surprising he almost got in a fist fight with the head coach when he was an assistant at Garden City.
He comes across as extremely fake
On the Luke Heimlich front: Kristine Anderson is indefatigable. Check out her Justice for Luke site or otherwise search for Brian Lamb’s C-Span Booknotes interview of Dorothy Rabinowitz’s “No Crueler Tyrannies.” It’s about 15 years old now. Her book is not entirely analogous to the Heimlich case because it deals with the miscarriage of justice associated with adults who were wrongly accused of child molestation. However, as the following catalog of approximate time stamps will show, the underlying dynamics of the Heimlich case will be manifest.
7:00 the lame credulity too many people lend to child abuse stories
10:00 how easy it is to manipulate young people into making accusations
15:30 how child sex abuse became the “weapon of choice” for vindictive accusers
17:00 the “ugly truth” about how prosecutors care more about “winning” than securing justice
27:00 the difficulty is publishing a skeptical narrative about child abuse cases
30:00 the “children don’t lie” trope
31:00 media complicity with prosecutorial misconduct
47:30 how young journalists can get in over their head covering such stories
51:00 lazy journalism
Rabinowitz’ epigram, which she voices several times in this interview, is “what is one man’s life?”
Luke still awaits his Rabinowitz. I predict that someday a writer is going to win Pulitzer Prize for unmasking this miscarriage.
So this sites favorize jurno, canzano, was going on today about how great tiger was this weekend and how much of a success story his comeback is.
I called him out on Twitter for burying Luke at every opportunity yet cheering on Tiger, who has done plenty of terrible things in his life and should not be a role model at all. How can you be on those opposite spectrums on those 2 individuals?
Sounds like Luton had a good day, may the best man win. Go Beavs
Mike Gretler is 3b All-Star in the N/S – Appalachian League (I think that’s the right one) All-Star game.
Nope – New York-Penn League.
Sounds like Colletto had a day today with Luton getting a break.
What did he do?
I’m more intrigued by him and Blount than Luton.
According to reports he got a lot of reps today and looked good displaying arm strength. I’d be surprised if this isn’t a repeat of the Collins, Mitchell, McMaryion season where each week the QB changed.
The QBs are fungible, as they’ve been for the last three years. Blaming or praising any one of them for singular games or practices is a disingenuous exercise.
Run the damn ball.
Selective outrage 101. No one wants to risk going after Tiger’s cheating ways because of glass houses and stones and such. Meanwhile Luke is an easy target for someone to pretend to have morals.
This is painful to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fKGBjYs_Sg
That coach looks totally defeated already.
Not seeing that. I see a tired coach that understands where they are at. Not a defeated coach by any means. Just a coach that knows that you have to continue the march and coach them up. I like the fact he is not sugar coating anything.
I too, see a coach who understands where they are and doesn’t automatically give the expected “canned” answer (see: 2.50 where he refuses to say “sure, we’re improving”).
And I continue to see, in Tibs, a coach who deals in specifics. Example: his answer at 2:33 where he breaks down tackling. Also, I think he presents a no nonsense image to reporters and their fluff questions.
Yep, I like the guy and have hopes for a competitive D, even with a D-line that Lundeberg (correctly) calls “terrifyingly thin”.
Watched it on mute. Body language looked attentive and engaged to me. Voice weakness most likely from fatigue from working 2 weeks straight
I stayed in a Holiday Inn last Weekend…
I don’t see defeat, I see a coach that doesn’t give praise without earning it. I’m actually impressed.
I don’t see a defeated coach. I see a coach that is focused, willing to answer the media questions in a way that is technical and on point. I’m glad he’s saying that tackling is a work in progress, because it is constantly something you need to work on in practice. It has to become natural for you as a player to get into position without thinking about tackling. I like intentional intensity, rather than intense because you have adrenaline from a practice. Get intense when you’re praising/celebrating with a player for a job well done, or getting intense when a player screws up and then get calm enough to explain how not to make the same mistake.
Watching the latest Smith and Lindgren videos. My lady hearing it in the background: “They all lack intensity.”
Bingo.
I think they are all tired. And why wouldn’t they be, they have been burning the midnight oil for two weeks now. The hours that these guys put in are huge. You want intensity during the week leading up to the game and on game day. I am just not seeing it. I’m no Pollyanna, I understand where this team is talent wise, but I also know how hard all are working, including coaches.
Just because they seem to lack intensity doesn’t mean much to me. Gary Anderson was intense all the time and that didn’t work out very well.
Valid.
Colletto getting love .. The only guy CJS recruited ..
A single analogy is valid?
And where does this dearth of talent narrative come from? QB and Dline are where we suck. Everywhere else is pretty good.
It’s just a matter of teaching the talent how to use their talent in the system being implemented. Three years ago the question was, “Why doesn’t he change his system to fit his personnel?” It’s the same now. It will just take time for the talent to digest the new system and implement it in an efficient manner. It’s up to the coach to make that happen. The better the coach, the shorter that time frame becomes.
A bad coach will be able to only do this sporadically, usually relying on the emotion or confidence of any given weekend to motivate the players.The team beats others who are that much worse than them, or they give good effort against rivals… or both.
A mediocre coach will take good talent in his own system and not be able to implement his system with that talent (that has been in the system for years) until well into the season. Or s/he will prey on the sisters of the poor in a favorable schedule then get exposed against equal talent.
A good coach will take over a team and show signs of promise and effort within the first season, following that up with an established system which uses a feedback loop for success. The team will get better year over year, but year three tells you if the coach is good or not.
A great coach will take the reins, struggle a little in year one, then never look back. The worst years for that coach will be on the tail end when they slide from great to good, then good to mediocre. Then the culture that expects greatness panics and retires that coach.
We’ve had a bad coach. We’ve had a mediocre coach who was fortunate enough to have a good leader intervene in the middle of 2006 (alas, he died in 2010). We’ve had a great coach who had one last thing to prove on this level. And now we have 9.
It will be telling how the OSU culture responds. It has been the only constant in all this.
My favorite what if:
What if OSU would have let Andros pick just one more coach? To be sure, he was fired just to avoid that happening. But his next hire was going to be this up and comer from from Idaho named Erickson.
Instead, we go from Dee and Joe to Snyder and Kragthorpe. Frying pan… fire.
And then there was Ralph retiring….
And I shouldn’t say the Dline sucks. We’re just an injury away from sucking, and it’s unrealistic to think we get 100% participation from them, given there are people out there Tuerking Dlinemen.
Spot on. GA led fans on a sad chase for 3 years. Sadder yet, we’ll never know how he muddled the player’s lives when he was there. My ‘what if’ is Gary Anderson never showing up at OSU.
Angry, put a contribution button on the next thread you post, please.
Sure thing. This thread a few down has the button, if you’d like to use that.
http://angrybeavs.com/baseball/13968
Thanks in advance!
Most welcome…
New poll up!
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1029751338110922758
Natty Baby!!!
Drink it if you got it.
Injuries, injuries, injuries; without going through reports, such as they are, mostly leg,hip, foot. I persist in my notion that Nike footwear is responsible, assuming the Beavs are still wearing it. I have recently become a Hanlon’s Razor enthusiast, especially with all the political crap. In any event, malice or cock-up, I’m sure it’s Nike’s fault.
I predict the season will be much like the plane flight of the guy that plane-jacked the commuter plane from SeaTac……..but without the fancy acrobatics.
If only we still had Seth Collins to pull off some in game hurdles…
Damn you, Corvallis weather!!!
Any news on our QB Recruiting trails? From what Rivals has out there, we only have 4 QB’s on our Offer sheet that are uncommitted. The most likely QB to commit is Nathan Lamb(OSU is the only P5 D1 school to offer him).
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/offers/football/2019
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/nathan-lamb-202467#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/lance-legendre-181764#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/david-baldwin-98707#school-interests
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/shae-suiaunoa-180455#school-interests
Yikes!
Lamb – tentative and slow, makes some poor decisions that would be picks on this level
Legendre – don’t want, pipe dream anyway…hearing grades are an issue
Suiaunoa – do want, pipe dream
Baldwin – known quantity who has gone silent over the summer, but he was sold on other than OSU… makes it sound like grades
I was looking around last week and couldn’t find much in the way of QB talent hanging around. But I did find some decent talent.
Trevor Jordan (west florida) – better arm than Baldwin… height is why he’s passed over
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/6035885/5a256ca0664b010e5079be4a
Stone Hollenbach (southern columbia) – I don’t know why he doesn’t have several P5 offers… except that he does no camps except at Bama, wants to go to Bama, and is a PWO commit to Bama (?… must be a rich kid)
Isaac Rumery (clearfield) – I like this kid’s game, his presence, his moxie… I don’t know why he’s not getting several P5 offers… height?… grades?
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/8127010/59ff97b504278b0b046ab0db
I should say Jordan also doesn’t have the wheels everyone wants these days. I think that’s a plus for anyone who wants to keep their QB healthy for a full season… or career… given you play to his strength, which is great feet and hands in the pocket.
I looked at Eget, and I think there’s too much needing to be corrected in his game. He has a long, open delivery unless he’s passing short left. And he’s a one read QB. But he has decent wheels. I’d rather go after Tommy Turner (lincoln).
https://www.hudl.com/profile/7924204/Tommy-Turner
Maybe they’ll bring back the thing where they have prospects tweet their highlights to the coaches. That’s Plan B.
I’m pretty sure the coaches and GAs are inundated with them now. PSAs need to find some other way to stand above the crowd.
example:
https://twitter.com/OregonState/status/1029507754937876480
Not much to say regarding QB recruitimg. They’re still cautiously recruitimg Weston Eget, and I still think he is the QB we end up with eventually.
One guy who I think they will still pursue hard is Joey Yellen. Call it a hunch, but based on some other guys we are recruiting who have ties to Yellen, I get the sense that the Beavs haven’t given up on him despite his verbal pledge to ASU(who have 2 2019 QBs currently)
Yellen has always been my top realistic hope(after Bachmeier) for OSU, so I really hope they can get him to change his mind.
I like Yellen, even if he only has Peyton Manning speed.
Bachmeier has a nice arm and reads the field pretty well, but he really has some happy feet and presto hands. There’s a lot of good to work with. Though, I get bored watching air raid QB tape.
Eget is a hard pass.
Eget I pass on because of the single-read tendency and the whole motion/release/flight process of his passing abilities. He has nice feet, great hands and decent wheels. But I know where every one of his passes are going a full count before he releases them. It causes issues on quick hits with timing and accuracy. And a lot of his highlights are highlights because his receivers win on contested balls (or the ball somehow gets lost by the HS D).
I just gotta go back to this Rumery kid.
I listed Jordan because he was P5 back-up material. He’s like Garretson with good decisions in his head. I have no doubt he would be an upper level MW QB by his RS Soph year… halfway through his true Soph year, after getting beat up pretty good.
Stone whatshisname is technically great. But his Bama fetish is just absurd. More power to him, I guess.
This Rumery kid’s tape is just fun to watch. His footwork is perfect… but in a natural way. It’s like watching Bill Walsh talk about how his QBs should work their feet then saying as an aside that QB1 does that… do it like him. His motion and release are effortless and efficient.
And then you start to notice that he’s tossing it 40 yards on a dime with all that no effort stuff.
I predict this kid will be a PWO at PennSt and never be heard from again. There are a million ways players can fall through the cracks. I think he’s one of them.
When I see the soft spot in the D, he goes there. Those moments where we see that guy or that section of field open… he sees that. And he has the ability to get to those soft spots with his arm or his legs. His field awareness combined with his athleticism (and a really pretty spin on the ball) show him to be a leader by example on the field.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/8127010/Isaac-Rumery
He’s just friggin’ fun to watch. All but a couple throws are in the basket. I would love to be a receiver for this kid.
I guess I haven’t been this confused about recruiting since Terron Ward wasn’t offered anything from anyone for whatever reason everyone doesn’t offer someone. I still don’t know wtf that was all about. He was obviously a good to great RB.
Can you tell I’m tired of method QB’s?
Okay… he’s not as under-recruited as I thought he was. Apparently his size isn’t ideal, and coaches don’t believe what they see on his film.
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2018/03/12/2019-qb-isaac-rumery-enjoyed-pitt-visit-today/
I like that kid. It’s rare that a kid can run but isn’t looking to run.
When will Purdue offer?
Eggers tweets this in regard to banged up secondary:
“Morris is the one guy who will probably miss the opener. I think they’re just being careful with the cornerbacks (Dunn, Irvine, Williams).”
A little early to count Morris out?
Could be that the coaches know the Ohio State game is a loss so why risk your players that you will need for the season. There is some strategy to that thinking at least.
Further on Morris according to Lundeberg:
“Jonathan Smith said David Morris is out indefinitely with another foot injury…This injury is to Morris’ left foot. He suffered a broken right foot during winter workouts”
Calvin Tyler also out indefinitely; Morris, however is the guy who’ll be missed most. Lundeberg gives a pretty good rundown of the overall injury situation in his piece today.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-notebook-morris-tyler-out-indefinitely/article_0b980bd7-f3c3-5441-a856-05808bc8880f.html
Unfortunately, D Williams has sat far more than he has played at Oregon State, so I wouldn’t even begin to count on him!
I feel Oregon State is in huge trouble all around, especially on D! Smith will find out soon enough that he is WAY over his head! He needed 4-5 years at a D1 school as a HC! I’m still amazed at all of the idiots saying that the Beavs will win 4-5 games this season?1 Really?!?1?! How? if 4 teams forfeit? If the Beavs win more than 1 game this season, it will be a miracle! But here’s what really kills me! The same idiots that were blindly bitching about Andersen on day 1, before the first game, will blame Andersen- if/when Coach Smith fails this season (1-11 or something similar)! I realize Andersen failed but some people never even tried to give him a shot from he get go because it wasn’t a hire in their comfort zone. That’s bullshit! But doesn’t surprise me for all the Riley lovers!
Go Beavs!
Interesting that OL coach Mxzxlk listed Brandel and Delp as the most likely locks as starters. No mention of Lavaka, who was far and away the most consistent OL last year.
I’ve never understood Delp. He has always looked like an upgrade whenever he came in to spell or replace someone.
Brandel is our best OL. Lavaka was just more of a surprise. If the RS frosh can step up now, they will likely beat out Moore and Houston. Is Lavaka taking turns at C? Divided attention could explain why he isn’t mentioned–more of an administrative issue. Who’s practicing there that would make Houston not a lock?
Brandel is solid, but I don’t think he had the positive impact on our offensive production that Lavaka did. Lavaka played a significant role in the majority of our big runs.
No one that played C last year should be considered a lock. Lavaka might make sense there.
I’m not saying anyone is a lock at C. I’m saying someone other than Houston has to be getting reps at C, if the one we know of isn’t a lock.
Who is that person?
And Lavaka doesn’t have anywhere near the production he’s had if Brandel isn’t to his left. The two of them play well together.
Suppose Houston could do more good on the d line given the status there if someone would step-up? Eggers reported recently that Demogerantas was the backup center.
Man!
Yanni is still here?
Per Eggers:
“Offensive line coach Jim Michalczik was doing some experimenting with his group Saturday. Among those getting some time with the first team at center was Nous Keobounnam, a 6-2, 290-pound sophomore from Centennial High.”
Yup, I keep assuming Delp is going to be a starter and it never seems to happen. Must be some weakness the coaches are seeing?
Hey Angry….. email me privately with an address I can use and I’ll kick you a gift card, like we did last year in SB. Don’t do Paypal or any of that fancy computer stuff. JB
Just saw this post that Keith Pankey had some major heart issues crop up recently and is in critical condition at OHSU.
There’s a gofundme for anybody interested in sending some financial support
https://www.gofundme.com/keep-keith-alive
Best wishes!
Wow.
Someone wishes ill upon Pankey?
I’m saddened by that.
Yikes.
He’s the original Flailbacker but nobody needs that shit.
And apparently buying sex toys is more disturbing than assaulting your wife.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1030575061063933953?s=19
Nevermind, i read it wrong. I thought McMurphy was saying this was the most disturbing part of the story. Instead it just an “in addition….” detail.
As long as it wasn’t school money that paid for it (or that they were then given to players?), then I see no issue with this… unless he opened the packages and played with them publicly.
The White House nude selfie is a little disturbing. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t spending the night.
So we need some Oline in this class. Are we in on any hosses?
We have Clark, Mackay, Wellsfry and now Levengood. All look serviceable or better–actual P5 talents. How many linemen will 9 keep on his roster?
I see Dawkins went D. I don’t think Stover projects as D at all. His TE tape looks really good. I love his blocking and think he might even make a great OT.
If anybody wants to disect some film, please take a few minutes and watch Aidan Maloney’s Jr year highlights(Liberty HS in Hillsboro)
https://www.hudl.com/video/3/2008432/59cb56f33df5b737f42e663b
His parents are friends of ours, but we had no idea Aidan had become such an accomplished athlete. He really wants a Pac12 offer, but so far only has some Big Sky offers and Air Force. Also a 4.0 student with Ivy League “offers”, but those don’t come with financial assistance.
Anyway, any constructive feedback would be good to hear so I can pass it along. He’s about 6’2″ and 185 right now, I think(ran track in Spring so he was light but is gaining some weight over the summer)
Prefers WR, but most schools project him at Safety. Also a state track medal winner in several events throughout highschool(sprints/hurdles/high jump)
He would be very receptive to an OSU offer because he is drawn towards engineering as a major. Should be one of the top 5-6 players in the state this coming year.
Hits his long stride quickly… hips are nice… tape is limited, so can’t say much about how he comes out of breaks, but that looks like his weakness.
Other than that, he looks like a possession receiver type. He needs to compile a tape of cuts and blocks. This one only really shows straight line moves.
OT: Beware of taking Fido to a dog park in Portland. Despite eating locally sourced, non GMO doggy granola and getting pot laced puppy treats, the canines in Portland are sexual predators.
#woof, woof.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/33593/peer-reviewed-feminist-journal-says-dog-parks-kassy-dillon
“Dog parks are microcosms where hegemonic masculinist norms governing queering behavior and compulsory heterosexuality can be observed in a cross-species environment.” Wilson wrote.
ooh, such fancy words to read on an early Saturday morning.
Yes… but what does Uncle Guido’s barber’s nephew’s wife’s bestie’s mother-in-law say about what happens when you make that face too many times?
I’m happy that people can spend their hard-earned time creating diversionary news out of “person on the street” interviews. But you really have to warn the reader that s/he needs to go get a roll of tinfoil and start making hats in order to read that bullshit.
Maybe instead of hyping some unknown bored person with no job, these news outlets should focus on highly stupid bored people who actually affect our daily lives.
Yeah… I’m talking about Dumbshit, the king of morons, born on home plate and ran back to third a couple times just so he could say he hit a grand slam and scored three runs in the process.
Sad.
You wanted it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zLzWtULig
You got it.
Feminists dont think nature be like it is, but it do.
#meowtoo
My right leg was a victim of the doggy rape culture. Gus the golden retriever seemed like a nice guy.
Mice!
has anyone seen the new Supertroopers?
Here’s a better story. Be forewarned. The creep factor is high in this one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share
Funny how blaming the victim is okay here.
typical
Are there two of you?
I can see where consistency would confuse someone like you.
Sick burn gramps
Lol, Jack is like 74 years old and likes to burn people on the World Wide Web. On the one hand, it’s kinda cute, on the other we all wish his retirement community had more activities for him.
Who needs to burn anyone when you guys are just flaming?
I really do understand that gamma doesn’t understand consistency. He’s one of the most vocal adherents to distraction-flaming, and he complains that my consistency and adherence to rules and laws and best practices is “really getting old” or “I’m so tired of” and other whiny noises like that.
A@A is ruled by his irrational thoughts, as the content of his most recent post shows.
I should say that A@A had one post some three or four months ago that correctly identified a fallacy someone else was using.
I was stunned when I saw that one. I was so proud in that short, unique moment in time and space.
So cute. Hey Tard, shouldn’t you be debating in the special olympics instead of the adult table?
You’re amused because what you took the time to type and commit to history with a simple click of the Submit Comment button allowed you to do also allowed you to capture some imaginative argument you so failed to even begin, let alone make during your weird supposed counter to something you think I said…somewhere… sometime.
I suggest you keep smiling.
I invite you to go back in time on this very blog and point out to me how I have been inconsistent or wrong.
I want to know this because if I’m wrong, I want to correct my wrongs. If I’m inconsistent, I want to question the set rules I thought were right.
You all pose little resistance to these ideals. And you provide less credible arguments against, even when I allow ridiculous emotional and spuriouos retorts as “you tard” and such.
That’s some really weak sauce.
I expect nothing more… you pussy weaklings who hate America.
Any day, coward.
Two weeks to go to the first game and there’s not much to be optimistic about for the first part of the season. just hoping to make it to conference play without a lot of injuries.
Not a good sign that no QB has separated himself from the group. Further red flags is that Colletto is in the mix after barely playing at a JC.
Defense has so many holes that won’t be fixed this year. Not sure any amount of coaching will make this defense better. Expecting them to be worst in conference.
it’ll be interesting to see how the coaches utilize the redshirt rule. Do they save guys until the end of the year when injuries have piled up?
The game plan for winning game will be the same every time. Keep the clock running on offense to limit the drives the defense is on the field for. Beavs don’t have the talent yet to put a game away early. even the other non conf will be close games.
Eeyore has spoken.
Doom and gloom it is.
Oh bother.
“Oh dear, dear. It’s hard to be brave, especially when you are a very small animal.”
It is because you are a very small animal that you will be Useful in the adventure before us.
As far as the QB situation goes, I have two possible theories-
Positive: These coaches realize that this is college football and they have an offensive scheme that can be picked up and executed by average college football players in one off season. Will the quarterbacks be NFL ready when they graduate? Nope, and I don’t give a fuck. And neither should any college coach because that’s not their job.
Negative: All the quarterbacks suck and it doesn’t matter who plays.
We know which one Eeyore picks, and we’ll all know where reality is soon enough.
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-notebook-beavers-show-improvement-in-second-scrimmage/article_25211a94-d834-5cf9-b5ab-c7fce3bb63c7.html
and essentially the same story…
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/oregon-state-showing-improvement-after-second-scrimmage
From a more thorough journalist, Eggers reports Nous is getting time at center.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/403793-300258-beavers-have-a-champ-catching-on-in-camp
Good to see Flemings getting some recognition. Thought he stood out a little at the scrimmage a couple weeks back. Speedy and hard to tackle. Could be a good option in the return game.
Yeah until someone lights him up and he breaks in half. 143 pounds is probably very generous.
https://youtu.be/2xrsjo5V5qs
What he said…
Went to one of the boycotted media outlets to see if they have a new writer, and they do. Nick Daschel. He quoted Kalani Vakameilalo with the following:
‘By sticking it out, Vakameilalo believes the payoff will come this season.
“I’m learning a lot with these coaches. They’re teaching me a lot that I didn’t know. I’m getting a lot of football IQ,” Vakameilalo said. “This is the most comfortable I’ve felt in the five years.” ‘
This gives me hope with the fact that in 5 years of playing at Oregon State, he’s learning things he didn’t know before this staff came into the mix. There was also a quote where one of the 5th year seniors stated they are glad to have Riley on the staff. Didn’t think that it would be beneficial for those 5th year seniors to have a familiar coach around during the transition of yet, another coaching change. Once those players became comfortable with the new staff, Riley decided to officially leave as an assistant and just be in the background as an analyst. He’s served his purpose for Oregon State and can now officially be out of the media’s mindset. Haven’t heard MR’s name brought up as of late. I actually have high hopes this team will resemble a football team rather than bodies on the field thinking too much and flailing about on the field.
You’re bringing him up… after talking about a tabloid mentioning him.
I don’t know man…I’m an optimist by nature but this year’s team seems to have all the makings of a dumpster fire. Coaching may be great but I’m not sure it’ll make a difference,
Let’s forgo the obvious QB question and jump to the fact that we’re running with only 2 D-linemen in our base defensive package due to lack of personnel and depth. Oh, and one of those two starting linemen is an unheralded true freshman. This is terrifying.
Next let’s circle back to the fact that we probably don’t have a legit D1 QB on the roster. Other than maybe a way-too-raw Colletto.
DBs, while a strength on paper, have been ravaged with injuries.
The coaches have talked a lot about using TEs effectively, but aside from one player who is injured and was very ineffective (while healthy) last year, we have nothing but true freshmen in line.
We’ve already lost a good chunk of our most talented players with eligibility: Crawford (transfer), Reichner (broken foot- probably out most of season and possibly ineffective once back), Morris (foot, timeline unknown), Ugwoegbu (quit/NFL), Nall (NFL), Tyner (passed on medical redshirt).
I’m generally a pretty hopeful guy, but I don’t have much hope that this team will be competitive. Maybe next year…
I’m not so worried about offense mostly because the starting o-line has 78 starts coming into the year. Ohio State for comparison has an o-line with 58 career starts. It also sounds like we’re hitting some big plays in practice and we weren’t doing that last year. Luton is a better QB than Garretson was. We’ve got talent at WR and RB, and Togiai is gonna start game 1.
Our rush D the last three years was the worst 3 years since Avezzano was here. And last years 5.5 yds allowed per rush was the worst by the Beavs since 1973. Our players weren’t that bad, that was on the coaches. we should be better just because it isn’t possible to be any worse. we can still cart 378 lbs of Aydon out there every few plays and if Isaac Hodgins is anything like his brother he’ll be right up to speed. Plus I like Jonathan Willis way better than Hungalu who was so slow to read plays. As for DBs, even with the injuries we’ve got some studs in Jalen Moore, Dwayne Williams, and a ton of young guys got experience last year which was one good thing about going 1-11.
Nall, Ugwoegbu, Villamin, Collins, and Tyner were all either underachievers or just wanted to leave last year and the team’s attitude is already better this year. Vegas predicted 5.5 wins last year with about the same talent. We ditched our shit coaches, purged some lesser motivated guys, and got everybody but Morris back from injury so why can’t we be improved?
We’ve got Nevada on the road and they have no D so that should be a shootout and a great chance for our first road win since 2014 at Hawaii. We have Wazzu at home and they will be down since their D-coord left, Leach tried like hell to leave, and their new QB is dead. We have Cal at home and they should be okay but we should hang with them man for man at Reser. I know it hasn’t been easy to win at ASU but Herm Edwards is an idiotic hire so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re a train wreck. Colorado is going to have a bad year and that will be a decent chance at a road win. I don’t rule out the CW either, id be more worried about the ucks if they made their d-coord their head coach. Combined with southern Utah there’s a possibility of 5+ wins in there.
Man, that Herm Edwards hire still has me shaking my head. Todd Graham is a massive douche but he won games there. I still just can’t fathom that move.
That might be the funniest hire ever. He’s going to be a dumpster fire.
I think you guys are waaaaaaayyyyyy overestimating the coaching talent in FBS football. Herm’s flubs were always about the whole recruiting thing. He sure as fuck righted that ship in a short season. Now he’s a fired Jets coach in the Pac.
I remember USC fan thinking they got nothing but coal in their stockings for 2000. Many around the Pac were giggling as well.
Don’t worry about Graham. Wherever he is, I guarantee it’s his dream job.
I want what you’ve been drinking. Cheers!!
I wouldn’t bet on Luton being the starter.
I would… At least for the first half of game 1.
Pretty much this. We’re probably better off at the beginning of this season because this list does make addition by subtraction. The only one I would take for this season (having seen what they did last season) is Tyner.
Our last road win was CU. It’s probably an honest mistake, since both that game and the Hawai’i game from that year were possibly the two ugliest and most embarrassing wins we’ve ever had. And that includes the first couple wins in 2000.
Mobile really needs a Jump to Bottom feature like on the previous layout. My hands are dying here (RIP)
I turned off the mobile version. Does that fix it?
Yes, thank you. I’m on mobile 99% of the time and I like the desktop version. Ever since that last round of updates it had a mind of its own, either it wouldn’t load the desktop version at all or if it did it would bounce back to mobile randomly.
Sweet.
I’m sure some people will complain.
Desktop is best. thank you.
Thank you for the change. I like this version much better.
Wish you guys spoke up earlier!
Didnt know we had a choice.. the desktop version actually works better on my phone than the mobile version did.
Yes this is much better. The blue screen handheld version sucks. No jump to bottom feature. Words stacked in a column
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Hands are back from the dead! Thanks, angry.
What if Luton really is good and GA just had a dodo for OC that he wouldn’t fire? Perhaps McGiven was such a poor OC that he screwed up the entire OLine/QB/RB room and even the WR were getting the yips.
Last year I thought a lot of things needed to go right but the schedule seemed favorable if Luton was a difference-making qb. He wasn’t comfortable or he was terrible, everybody pressed, Nall was a prima-donna, CSU was a major gut-punch, Nall was a prima-donna with good run or 2, Luton got levelled in game 4, GA flipped his lid, D was a disaster, OC was a clown, absolute melt-down from the whole team.
I think Nall’s fumble at the end of the Stanford game was a confidence destroying play for a fairly talented team that saw nothing executed well the whole season.
The post above by LA Pine proposes a glimmer of hope based on some talent and new coaching. I think there is a chance they are decent before they are another dumpster fire. The schedule seems to demand returns on the teaching earlier rather than later though. If they aren’t at 4 wins by game 8, they won’t reach 5 wins. I’d be surprised if they can actually get to 4 wins on the year. If these guys see good results from actual coaching and get on a roll early, with consistent qb play, stout dline play, maybe they can win enough to get to a bowl. I would not bet my neighbor’s house on it though.
Beavs go 4-8 by beating Southern Utah, Nevada, WSU and 1 road win out of ASU/Cal/Colorado
What I saw from Luton is that he has an average skill set and performed like an average QB. The biggest issue was his accuracy on all manner of throws, from swing passes to deep routes. Can new coaches fix that? Probably not, and I think we’d be hearing about separation in camp if he really was that much better.
We might have the talent to play the theoretical Riley pro-style offense (not the ACTUAL Riley offense) where we run more than pass and mostly use the run to set up deeper play action routes. Luton has a strong arm, so the passing game needs to try to tap into that rather than hoping he miraculously gets more accurate. We also have RB depth and some talent and experience on the O-line, so they should be able to handle the majority of the play calls.
This is the only scenario where I see us moving the ball well enough to win more than 2 games.
ummm…CAL is a home game…
Beavs are in Bend. They have a hashtag #BeavsInBend
When the week is over, will they start the hashtag #BeavsBendOver ?
Or maybe they’re saving that one for after Ohio St?
Noon Thursday open to public. Seriously? Some of us Beavs work
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Article/DAM-Podcast-Marcus-Greaves-and-Angie-Machado-talk-about-Oregon-State-football-quarterbacks-and-Ohio-State-120870782/
Marcus Greaves and Mama M podcast, lots of Marcus McM mentions – how McM deserved to be #1 and how Anderpants lost the team by dropping him to #4. 24:00, 29:40, 30:30.
At 2:25 Greaves opines that Fresno State held McM out of first games vs tough OOC opponents saving him for conference games. Feels they knew he’d be their #1 from the start……could JS do the same this year?
Lots of love for Coach Bray.
And, in the “water is wet” file; they feel the D could be pretty good IF the d-line “performs”.
#4?
Holy shit!
Apologists for a marginal QB who probably had a foot out the door and (admitted by all of said apologists) had an entitlement issue have jumped the shark.
Willard was scout team and redshirting. Blount was redshirting come hell or high water.
If MM was demoted to #4 it was because he went into pouty entiltlement mode, skipped practice the next day (which he did), and probably announced his intentions to take his ball and go home.
You all need to let this poison go. It’s going to make you look the fools time and time again.
He may or may not have had any leverage you all think he had. But his actions bespeak a non-leader.
There can be no argument to the contrary. His actions are the argument itself.
If you would like to continue this discussion of irrational weirdness, I’m here all week… and month… and year… and….
Please, someone tell me how Jaquori McLoughlin deserved to start, was so entitled about it that he left OSU… but he is a great leader for OSU and coaches were stupid for benching him, even though he skipped practice in a pouty huff of entitlement.
He was the best qb on the roster at the time (which means nothing). I think not being “GA’s” guy was his biggest downfall. I dont think we win anymore games if he starts.
I totally agree he was the best QB on the roster. I was prepared to go to war for him… until he quit.
When he quit, he was no longer the best QB on the roster.
I don’t get how people don’t get this.
Then again, I don’t know how people can ignore the facts and elect a know deadbeat as POTUS, let alone how the fact-pattern spells “MONEY LAUN ERER”, and they deny that D exists.
You all are living inn some fairy tale where even bias doesn’t explain your stupidity.
You all deserve more than ridicule for hypocrisy about everything team you pretend to espouse.
I mean… if I was to say that oil and gas workers should be outlawed because one of them killed his pregnant wife and two kids, you all would think I’m crazy.
So… where are you right now?
Why aren’t the [name of opposing party here] outlawing oil and gas workers?
They’re by exponential numbers more violent than illegals, and we all know that illegals are bad… especially when illegals come into the USA illegally… like FLOTUS did.
Soft underbelly doesn’t even start to explain the dissociation from reality the stupid percent adhere to. They are fucking adherent. They are also fucking stupid… as hell… and way beyond.
I thought I knew stupid before 2016.
I was so so so wrong.
The completely stupid dumbfucks who insist that they are, in fact, dumbfucks who think dumbfuck things will be made whole.
I’m sure the smart among them knows what that means.
What do you know about quitting? You’ve already admitted you never played sports.
Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding, let alone your massively incorrect assumptions. I’m guessing your inherently wrong biases led you there.
Well… it’s astounding to those who have any.
Just for fun (and to prove you’re not the fraud I know you are):
source it
Aren’t these distractions just major fun?
Make OSU great again!
We need more discussions about these topics. They’re so few and far between. And they’re just so deep.
The whole topic of not being “GA’s guy” is, I think, more important than a rehash of the McM discussion; according to Greaves GA lost the team (not just McM) over the way he handled playing time for those who weren’t “his guys”. Not only in regard to the QB position. BTW, I disagree on not winning ANY more games if McM would have started.
Just like the new redshirt rule, the strategy of how to approach an early game vs a much superior OOC opponent is worth thinking about. Greaves opinion that playing guys who you only expect to be backups in that type game is something I wonder if JS seriously considers.
That, and the use of (which) 4 games for redshirts brings up the idea of conceding certain games…….a discussion all on it’s own.
Off topic, just trying to remember if I ever saw Marcus Greaves play for OSU. Does anybody remember him ever getting into a game? Why did he retire early? I don’t know anything about the guy
I seen to remember GA saying “the best 11 players will be on the field” or something similar. He forgot the fast talking lawyer speak.
NB: Greaves’ bio says he played in four games in 2016 on special teams.
Why does anything GA did have anything to do with OSU now? If anyone wants to complain about his playing favorites, why doesn’t anyone talk about how Nall obviously should have been benched two series into last season?
Oh… because it doesn’t matter now.
GA quit.
He gone.
Bringing up the issue of coaches playing favorites only applies to 9 right now. I don’t see any evidence of that happening.
Also, with zero games to reference, nobody else does.
Because GA, by his presence and actions, left the basis upon which JS must build. Talking about it won’t change that; podcast comments about improved morale don’t prove that JS is making positive changes, but the fact remains that players aren’t likely to have forgotten the experience of the GA years.
Again, of more interest to me were the comments about holding out your true #1 when starting the season against what appears to be a vastly superior ooc opponent.
GA left talent. He received very little. He sucked at trusting some schmuck to choose some kind of QB he thought he had an idea about.
Then he quit.
Now he gone. Buh-bye.
Now we have better talent but directionless or (as some of you would have it) destroyed players. I choose directionless. That’s where a ne HC comes into this discussion.
If you haven’t been paying attention up to now, we have a new HC.
If 9 doesn’t do measurably better with this group than GA did last year, then there better be nobody and not anyone defending his coaching acumen. And that’s intended to be directed at those here who neg along the recent talking points oh so familiar to even the newbies on any blog.
1-11 would mean that we failed in our choice for a head coach. Cory Hall could take this team to at least three wins next year. The neggie Nellies can kiss my ass. That pre-narrative will not fly. If the talent on hand is so demoralized that they can’t even be bothered to play, I would rather watch the scout team scrap for just one yard. And if I don’t have a HC who realizes even this basic tenet of competitive spirit, then I don’t have a HC.
That is the basis for your neggie narrative. That’s what I have to believe you now believe about our new HC.
GA left talent……check
Cory Hall could take this squad to 3 wins……..check
1-11 would mean OSU picked the wrong HC…………..check
Seems we’re pretty much in agreement. I expect 9 to get this team to at least 3 wins and looking like an organized football team all season long.
Now, will 9’s strategy include using the new redshirt rule to, effectively, concede some games? Will he concede some games by leaning on backups and saving his first string for more evenly matched contests? Those were the points I thought the podcast made relevant here. I know no one else agrees, so will give that dead horse a rest now.
meds 2 jax stat
A doctor should have his license removed for making an online diagnosis.
A fraud would be someone who doesn’t even have a license, but pretends he knows what it’s all about.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LqHNmEZ5mVw/WQ613l2CI6I/AAAAAAAAJxA/TWF_MHKY1b4_ebyhCaMbol3eamtN5Rz4gCLcB/s1600/TrumpWitchEvil.jpg
Such an injustice to the wiccan community.
Why can’t religious people be left to their own peace without the government imposing ridiculous ideals upon them? How can the wiccan community recover from someone like Dumbshit admitting to being one of them?
RIP to the RPI. NCAA replacing rpi with new metrics.
No more gaming the system. Moving closer to rankings like pomeroy.
RPI was just a poor metric because too much weight was given to a feedback loop.
We’ll just have to see how the new metrics are set up. Even Kenpom doesn’t weigh everything correctly. The weights themselves are subjective. You have to know what data sets are important to individual teams in individual match-ups to utilize them correctly.
I think making it more complicated is a mistake. Simply cutting out the feedback loop part of the RPI would be an easy thing to do.
Do the Beavs have a real shot at being the most surprising turnaround in the Pac12?
Pessismism/Reality says they are in for a really long season and will get routed in at least 7 losses. tOSU, Cal, UW, UA, USC, Stanford, UO.
Optimistism/Koolaid says they could get on a roll and win 7 straight close games and go 7-5: But end with a 4 game losing streak. If JS has Beavs at 7-1 going into the USC home game, he should be named national coach of the year on the spot.
Lifetime contract……..wahhhhhh!!!
Cal, UA and Nikegon?
Are you in on some info not known by everyone else?
No urban Meyer for tOSU for the first 3 games. This means we play a team without Urban Meyer for their home opener. Does this change anything since Urban hasn’t been at a practice for the entire month of August?
Players make plays, players win games.
Only when they respect the process.
Thoughts on the opener at the Horseshoe-
GA:
I wonder if the Beavs will take their Big Boy pants to Columbus and go out and compete their tails off, with a QB who can win with his arm, legs and mind. Hopefully they will fight like crazy and give 110% for each other in all 3 phases, offense, defense and special teams. I like the want to in this team, the war daddy mentality and the physicality that puts guys in the right situation, scenario, circumstance to make plays and be successful.
Riley:
Boy I remember these types of games. Golly, well, I’m real proud of these guys and the attention to detail. They are still looking to develop that leadership and form an identity as a team. We’ll see how they do, but boy, I love these neat early season experiences for our guys. It’s a neat deal for them to be in a stadium that feels like big-time football. We have had some real fun memories in these early season games. It’s such a neat deal, I think it really develops character and helps challenge each guy to become more than just football players.
DeCarolis:
Well, we looked at the budget and decided that a road beat-down was the only way to keep the lights on at Reser for the rest of the home games. Sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you are the bug. Bugs pay the bills this year.
Athletic Trainers:
Fingers crossed…
Urban Meyer:
Glad I didn’t have to be on the sideline for this one. B-O-R-I-N-G
Jonathan Smith:
We think we can we think we can we think we can we think we can ….uh-oh, keep trying. Let’s just play hard and have some fun. Stay safe everybody.
National TV audience:
There is another OSU??? Who knew? I thought the only team from Oregon was green, not orange. Weird.
When you start with GA and MR, how am I supposed to care about the rest of it?
When you start with Jack, how am I supposed to care about the rest of it?
Who cares?
In their big boy pants.
Wardaddies, we need more wardaddies.
Story of our football lives.
I don’t get it. We have better food in Corvallis than many places. It’s just that the best of the best ;ands there, so there’s no “variety” of choice. But that’s not really true anymore, since they encroached on green space.
So now that Corvallis is starting to look like suburbs and constant development, maybe it’s lost some of its charm?
It still has free buses. So I know there are people there who know how to do the right thing. When that falls by the wayside, the redo will be complete.
But until then, teddy bears should be shown that they can thrive in that town.
I think the recruiting has been insufficient in selling this ideal. You’re a growing boy who needs his nourishment. We can provide this. And we can do it with zero distractions. We will let you be you, and you will learn to love you.
Come play for OSU.
Um, not to nitpick, but, the buses aren’t free.
Carry on…
Well damn!
You need to provide me a link to your source, because I don’t know what I need to have in pocket the next time I hop on CTS.
“CTS became fareless on Feb. 1 because of a Transit Operations Fee passed by the Corvallis City Council. It added $2.75 to single-family residential customers’ bill each month.” ie the buses aren’t free.
But you’re welcome for the “free” ride. :^)
https://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/corvallis-transit-system-drops-bus-fares/article_e6ae31e0-2e8e-11e0-9a07-001cc4c002e0.html
Nope.
Buses are free.
Obviously, there are costs associated with running the CTS. And that’s going to be assessed in some shared way among the citizens.
But you’ve failed to account the costs of externalities in your hasty attempt to be clever. The benefits to businesses and residences (and the citizens themselves) outweigh the shared costs.
This guy gets it
Oh… here’s something for you all to chew on.
I cringed many times over the past couple days hearing about un-indicted co-conspirators and how someone plead without admitting cooperation. The void in facts has the media just weirded out. And it’s really annoying.
I guess nature really does abhor a vacuum.
I have two words that fill the vacuum immediately. Occam would agree with me.
sealed indictment
More Trump ranting? The space he rents in your head is YUUUUGE. Sad!
renting in your head is better than Trump owning your ass, Scott
Pretty sure he does neither, and please stop thinking about my ass.
Pretty sure… or told that you’re pretty sure?
And we’re all thinking abut your ass. We’re thinking you’re just going to be another one of those who are so on the wrong side of history that they spend the last 40 years of their life apologizing for their stupidity… and playing CYA.
If you need a primer on that dumb acronym, go fuck yourself.
You can think about my ass anytime, Jack <3
wrong… side… of… history
You’ll be too embarrassed to tell your grandchildren how hard it was for anyone to think anything but ass while you thought you shared independent thought in the latter half of the 2010’s. But you’ll always know where you were told to stand during this time… and that you blindly followed the noise to this end.
“Wrong side of history” – you don’t even know my “side”. You do like putting words in people’s mouths and extrapolating like a loon, though. You’re on the wrong… side…of…sanity…and…reality
Your position is easily known, because you don’t have any original ideas or words.
Unless you want to claim that you were raised by a conspiracy nut, and you just have a hard time turning over your vocabulary in order to emote an independent voice, you’re a known quantity.
Tell us, what do you think of the MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!!!?
What do you think they should be telling us about blaming the victim?
Does blaming the victim even exist?
Why no comment on the MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!!! link I provided to the FAILING NEW YORK TIMES about people who were defending a creep by victim blaming?
Was it because it didn’t fit your pre-approved narrative?
That’s just what’s on this post. If you’re truly wanting to not be the automaton, as you present yourself, I can break down further posts.
Meanwhile, have fun with my obsession. Your whiny complaints are your just desserts.
The space in my head which is always rented by POTUS is a constant.
Just because your criminal dumbshittery occupies that position doesn’t mean I don’t fucking pay attention to what the leader of my gawdammed country says and does… you lazy fucking prick.
POTUS is kinda fucking important, you dipshit of immense proportions.
Now… if I paid attention to what Hillary Clinton, some loser who doesn’t affect anything in my life, is saying… I might be a loser who thinks he’s a redneck.
But then I would truly be a redneck, because I truly support unions and labor.
So there’s that.
And all your “important” obsession has amounted to what exactly?
What obsession?
The pseudo-man is the executive in charge of the Executive branch of the government of my country. If you don’t care about your country, that’s on you. But don’t project your fake patriotism on me.
“What obsession?”
LMAO!
You inject Trump into EVERYTHING. This is an OSU sports board. Angrybeavs, not Angrytrumphaters. There are plenty of other boards for your incessant political rants.
This isn’t incessant.
This is just play.
You present yourself in oozing Trump-speak with your conspiracy-laced stupidities.
So I just go to the root of the ideas which you are told to believe… and do so blindly.
Does it bother your pussiness that I call the Trumpster fire what he is–a failed pseudo-man who would be nothing without daddy’s money and an army of lawyers who know how to chisel earnings away from hard-working Americans?
Or are you just afraid that your dear leader will finally be caught for the money laundering that he’s not particularly good at hiding… to the point that it looks like he wasn’t even hiding it.
I guess if it’s done in the open, it’s not a crime.
Right?
If you think this is obsession, little conspiracy boy, then you fail to recognize reality, yet again.
It certainly doesn’t bother you that Dumbshit makes Bill Clinton look like a staid and stable husband who could be trusted with your daughters.
This is for you.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/
There’s enough detritus in that one piece to keep a mindless conspiracy nut like you busy for hours.
Jack, you seriously need to see a therapist. We may argue on the internet, but it’s apparent to anyone reading that something is off. I am not going to feed into this unhealthy mental cycle and will simply ignore your posts from now on. Take care, beaver brother.
Run away!
Run away!
heat… kitchen
But it won’t stop until you stop dropping talking point conspiratorial garbage then wonder aloud why I go straight to your cancer.
I don’t know what’s worse, you ranting like a cry baby about the POTUS or you pretending to understand locker room dynamics and Coaching politics… Maybe you should take up knitting to calm yourself down.
Knitting could be dangerous with that needle point…I’d stick to basket weaving, although if you need to take a class on that, the school down south can set you up, but unfortunately, it’s reserved for scholarship players.
Needle point and knitting are two different things. And I know you didn’t mean to conflate them, but that you think a knitting needle has a point tells me how sharp you are.
Then again, your weird conspiracies about the sky falling are about as sharp as a tennis ball… and weird.
I don’t think Nikegon has a basket weaving class. But if they did, I would think players would stay away from it. Unlike what you’re accustomed to, it takes some actual work.
I know how to knit.
Maybe you should take up logic.
And I don’t know why you keep bringing up locker room dynamics. I’ve certainly not brought it up, because it means nothing in the discussions I’ve had. You’re wanting to apply something subjective to objective events. I’m probably aligned with you on the whole chemistry thing. But that’s a completely different discussion.
Thus, I call for you to bring logic to the table, not red-herrings.
But I’m preaching to a bunch who succumbed to thinking in terms of Wiscy trolls–applying the worst rumors of their football admin and coaches over the years to the quitter who quit on them. You all can waste your time thinking and postulating about all that crap if you want. But don’t get all butt-hurt when you’re called out as the fool. You should have done that before you bought the crap that was ancillary to your original ideas but tainted them because of credibility issues.
Just finish cleaning up your room!
Let’s see that dust fly with that broom!
You seem stuck on that song.
But now you’re stuck on just the parent’s part, so that’s good.
It was weird when you did the talking back then told yourself not to talk back.
Urban Meyer is a surprisingly bad at faking sincerity. I’ve heard better forced apologies from petulant five year olds. Urban Liar……..wife did not share the texts she received.
I’m surprised Urban didn’t blame it on Ambien again. It worked at Florida!
Anyone going to the scrimmage today?
I’m in Bend this week but couldn’t convince my family(or myself) that going to a 2nd scrimmage in 2 weeks was a good use of our time.
I’ll be there for some of it.
I went, bigger crowd than I had anticipated. Good emotion from fans and team.
Noah went down on first series, left knee.. He was very emotional and I’m guessing it was a severe knee injury, hoping the best for the young man.
Luton looks much improved in his foot work. Had a nice slant with Kolby for a 50+TD. However, he was ineffective in situationals starting from the 50 and could not get a first down.
On previous drive on 3rd and goal after leading a 90+yard drive he was sacked killing a promising drive.
Blount had a lot of WR drops, Bodden had 2 on the FIRST series alone. Laverty had a big yardage play drop right off his hands. The worst drop was Bradford on a 40 yard bomb wide open in the end zone, very nicely thrown ball to him in stride. Blount hit Flemmings after a nice QB scramble to set up the game trying FG at the end of the scrimmage. Blount also had a bad int forcing it on 3rd and long running out of the pocket.
Colletto is behind both of them imo. Blount threw the best deep ball. Luton had a lot of check downs but had improved from last year. My Knocks on Luton is that he is not mobile and will take a lot of sacks. Still staring down the receivers and misses on deep balls (not counting the catch and run by Kolby).
Kicking was spot on today. Jordon 4/4 with 46, 48, 52 and 54 yard kicks the last one to tie the game as time expired.
Defense is better and didn’t give up that many busted plays.
I think a 2 qb system could actually work with this team.
Fun day, Go Beavs
unfuckingbelievable about Noah. Fucking shit.
Yeah that’s fucking terrible. Dude just barely gets healed up and now this.
Sounds like Blount could be the guy.
Noah is injury prone. Could have been the same hit that another kid shakes off. There likely is something in our physical makeup that causes some to be more prone to injury but until we get a handle on that somes dudes will just always be the type of guys that get hurt all the time. Sad reality.
RE: QB…All the reports i saw said Luton was lights out today and separated himself. tho
He got rolled up on. Happened on a run play the next play after his only reception/target. If was too bad, cause Luton threw a back shoulder duck and Noah went to and got it like the stud he is.. Feel bad for the lad
I thought Togiai was our best shot to score any points against Ohio State. The buckeyes don’t really have any weaknesses but their inside LBs and safeties are about the only positions where they don’t have multiple 5-star recruits on their depth chart. Their starting MLB is working back from an achilles tear in the offseason, and after spring practice urban Meyer had called safety their biggest concern.
I feel bad for him when he drops easy hitches. Wily-Matagi is the same, but he can block.
I look forward to seeing some Smalls ball.
Thx
Well, I did write up a big post about the scrimmage today but it didn’t submit.. Was definitely a fun time though.
Is that it right above this post?
It is. Technical difficulties. I agree Luton passes the eyeball test. But that long td to Kolby was caught 7 yards off the line and Kolby made the moves to break away. Not sure I saw Luton hit a pass over 20 yards other than that. Personally I think all 3 qbs see time this year.
Holy shit talk about a sad state of affairs with this football team. After seeing the projected starters, why do we even bother fielding a team?
This is one of those years where you look around and it’s hard to figure out if any of our players would have a place on the too deep of any other Conference team. Love the guy but Smith looks over his head, we have no momentum in recruiting, and possibly the worst roster of any power 5 team.
This season is going to be ugly. So ugly… Sigh
@ Big Flat Tail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqsbZ0Wkno
After reading this, I have zero trust in your football insight.
Imagine if we had to trust someone who couldn’t even win in the sun belt.
Then we would be in a truly pathetic world of hurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Irony because of the last seven words.
Comedy gold.
Heard the Winston-Salem Dash bb game against Myrtle Beach this evening – Nick Madrigal on WSD and Christian Donahue playing for MB. Donahue seems to be doing well. I didn’t realize he was on the MB team and it added interest. Madrigal was pulled in the 7th inning. He’s batting.176.
Glad Donohue’s doing well for the Mermen, one of my favorite teams https://goo.gl/images/BTdoYZ
This from Eggers:
Smith brought all the OSU players to Bend — even those injured such as running back Calvin Tyler, who could miss the season with a knee injury, and safety David Morris, likely lost for the year after surgery to repair a small fracture on his left foot.
I’d really hoped Morris would only miss half the season.
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/404215-301713-beavers-go-bowling
It’s weird that several years ago we fired our trainer because of a rash of injuries that seemed to pop up every year. so they go get that gal from the Steelers? or some NFL team, and we still get the same injuries every year. Something’s wrong with corvallis water.
It’s those nike cleats… I used them in college and always had some sort of leg injury. Switched to under armor after school and haven’t looked back
Their athletic shoes are pure shit. My step son issues their garbage religiously and I swear they don’t even use real materials any more, it’s all some kind of plastic.
The Nike SB shoes are the only thing I’ve seen that use real leather/suede.
Has she been there with three coaches?
Yes, but trainers usually do more then one sport. I think she is the head trainer.
Fortunately Landry Payne unexpectedly got a 6th year of eligibility so the well hasn’t run dry at free safety. And with the new rule it sounds like Morris can play the last 4 games and still come back next yr classified as a soph
That’s what caught my attention, I’d figured Morris would get into a few games and still redshirt, Eggers seems to think he is out for the entire season “likely lost for the year”.
Of course, Eggers also hinted very strongly that Casey was gonna retire.
I know you like Morris and so do I but if you’re looking big picture here, neither Morris or the best QB in college football can save this team, this year. The unrealistic/ uneducated/ novice Beaver fan is hearing all about these crazy numbers that these frosh RB and WR are putting up on the defense and thinking..”Wow, those guys are gonna kill it this year” (shaking my head). Nah… They are running against, what might be one of, if not the worst defense in the nation. A two to three man front that hardly compares to most PAC 12 second/third string D Lineman. It seems the secondary gets hurt just walking on the field (I mean, how many games has D Williams played in for his career- seems like he’s been injured 80-90% of his time here). My biggest concern though, is J Smith being Riley 2.0 and….. continuously trying to get him involved in the program. Here’s my question, and I know a lot of you on this site actually see the detriment that Riley brings to this (or any) program, what is going to happen around game 6 or 7 when there MIGHT be 1 win (I think 0-6 or 7 is very possible at that point) with the; staff, players, program? Do they turn on each other? Because Smith will probably turn to someone for big help, and guess where he’ll turn? Yep, MR! How do you think these coaches on the staff will feel about that? Coaching (especially at this level and beyond) in very ego driven. These guys on staff (IMO) will start to question the first year HC (Smitty) and why he’s turning to MR instead of them. That’s just one of the many reasons I don’t like this hire! I think Smith is an inexperienced young gun, that thinks he can change the world but; he can’t relate to this generation of players (recruiting-leading), he lacks the experience to lead at this point (lack of experience) Lastly, I like Smitty and what he did for the program but I think the Admin and the hiring committee were very selfish with this move! It’s a, cheap, easy and risk-free way for them to bring in a fan favorite (Smith) and say (behind closed doors of course) if he fails, we blame inexperience if he succeeds, we look like geniuses and we spend hardly anything at all! Total bullshit move IMO.
PS- OneOldBeav I’m not saying you think this way, I’m simply sharing my opinion based off of the Morris Comment.
Go Beavs!
I truly think all the people that act like this was truly a 1-11 team last year based on talent don’t truly understand what it means to lose a team. The players literally quit last year. That sucks and it shouldn’t be excused but its fixable.
Now, I don’t think they win 10 games (or even 6) this year but this idea that they can’t be competitive and win multiple games is ridiculous. If the team buys in to what this staff wants to do (and reports indicate they are) 3-5 wins is likely.
Ever head coach that ever lived, was inexperienced as head coach at one time.
I don’t know where you get your propaganda. But it includes many straw men which you choose to answer in a frenzy.
I agree that your wild scenarios are worrisome. I also don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
If you think that Jefferson will play more than three years of college ball, then you’re either a moron, or you know that he’ll be injured before his payday. The latter is a decent bet, given the sport. But I choose to side with the belief he won’t get Tuerked while here.
I still don’t know who or what you’re talking about with all this talk about people hyping superstar true frosh. That’s all you.
I’m not concerned with pre-made excuses or pre-made conspiracies.
Play the games, and prove you deserve a multi-million dollar salary. If you don’t deserve it, walk away.
The bar has been set.
Nick Saban came out of the womb an experienced HC.
@Youngorst
I’m not sure if you were responding to my post or just making a general statement. But if you were referring to my post, I never mentioned that last season’s team was a 1-11 talent team. My remarks were talking about this current team, and they are completely different than the personnel and obviously the coaching staff.
I do question your confidence in this unproven staff and the current active players being able to win 3-5 games. I’m not sure how you come to this conclusion? Care to share?
Go Beavs!
@ BlackBandits
When you are hiring a Head Coach for a Power 5 program in the PAC 12, it’s really tough to hear that as a defense for hiring back someone from the glory days here as a player. With that logic, why don’t we just hire Mitch Singler?
A program should always try to find the best fit for the job. Hiring a a guy with zero head coaching experience is not a good plan when in a situation like this (bottom tier program in the country). Especially when the downfall started with Smith’s role model, Mike Riley’s end of his campaign. Not much has changed, nor will it (IMO) with the same people at the helm!
Go Beavs!
Who would’ve been our solid choice instead?
I don’t recall any FBS head coaches stepping up to apply for the job. There were former coaches rumored. Miles (too expensive for a conservative school) and Jones (ugh!) were all I recall. It was down to a successful OC with several years of FBS experience running an elite O (maybe a second in Yurchich) and an OC with one year of FBS experience running a less than middling O (and proved to have extreme ethics issues with the way he bombed the CW).
If it’s the calcaneal fracture, I can confirm that it’s not healed after three months. It’s simply at the point where you need to retrain yourself on how to land on your feet because dipshits who didn’t have anything resembling degrees in kinesiology or biology or aything that has to with anything but making moola decided that you should carry an extra couple pounds of waste on the ends of your legs… and that it should blow out at a ridiculous rate in order to increase repurchase… and to add some fucking four inch wedge on the back of your sole.
Wtf with that wedge, really rich guy who created the acl repair industry?
Your trainers on circuits shuld be onitsouka tigers. Expect wrong sizing and general bad service. But they are what the major shoe companies used to make well. If your feet are still healthy, Feiyue (sp) is the easiest and most inexpensive route.
My more aesthetic purchases involve puma drift 5s.
I wear keen trails and sandals 60% of the time. But I also grind a comfortable amount of sole off those monsters. I certainly don’t run in them. It’s become a lot harder to customize shoes aftermarket these days. The material is just shit.
But you think everything about everything about economy and economics and that shiny thingy and this shiny thingy and whatever trust fund dumbshit says and whatever….
Sorry… I went into landlord phase.
My properties are the best ever. Nobody makes more money off their properties than I do. I will inflate the value of my current (preferentially my most recent purchases) holdings by 150%. I will obviously default on the loans I took out on that artificially ridiculous valuation that was obviously artificial… then I will be the first and greatest beneficiary of “too big to fail” thus far in the history of people who sucked at the teat of the American Man!
What color is in your mind’s eye right now?
Do you think it’s wrong to judge that? I agree.
Do you think it’s wrong to judge how you act and how we’ve seen everyone act when we say simple little things in public?
Is it something we should tolerate all the time? Is it something we should tolerate sometimes and pick our battles? Is it something we should tolerate never?
Obviously, I’m of the latter.
Obviously, I have a leader of the free world who has no fucking clue what the latter even means.
And that is where we part.
Everything you try to say beyond that?
You’re a fucking idiot.
Trump’s biggest, most lavish skyscraper was built and stands tall right in the middle of your skull.
As far as shoes, like I stated before I can’t even figure out what the fuck most of Nike’s shoes are made of. My step son worships the temple of Chinese labor and his basketball shoes look like plastic ballerina slippers or some shit. They’re so fucking narrow that they deform the kid’s feet and he gets blisters on the ball of his foot but he’s convinced that they’re amazing because they’re expensive.
I have had a few pairs of Keens and they’ve been pretty good overall. They’re actually shaped like a human foot which is novel. I scored a pair of American made Keen hikers for my son and they’ve held up really well. Made in Portland, just like my Danners.
Dumbshit is POTUS. POTUS always has space in my head, because I’m an American.
That we have a deranged, narcissistic chiseler as POTUS isn’t even the problem. The problem is that he’s using the the COTUS as toilet paper, and the fake patriots pretend the emperor’s stains have no stench.
I’ve had equal positions in my skull for each past POTUS. If you don’t like sharing this one’s dishonor, then don’t. Otherwise, you can keep licking that punk bitch’s ass. He gets the same space any POTUS would have. His existence in my head is GIGO, and you dislike it because the space he rents in your head is unearned adoration for his dishonorable deeds.
I can respect those of his zombie cult who make an honest assessment of the trust fund brat who would likely already be in jail were he not born with more wealth than he now has. The pseudo man is nothing without his daddy’s corrupt wealth. You could say he’s like JFK in that way. But his Pulitzer effort would be titled Profiles in Bonespurs instead.
Strangely, I enjoy the predictable stupidity, dishonor and corruption of the fake patriot. I enjoy watching him blow shit up in the half-assed way he does it all, always mugging for the camera and pretending the dullness in his eyes belies some magical potency other than daddy’s money. And I love taking note of each and every dull enabler who believes he’s something he’s not and never will be.
It makes life quite easy. I don’t have to deal with silly things like inhibitions anymore. I also get to be as civil as the pseudo-man himself. After all, he’s POTUS. He is leading by example.
It’s too bad his zombie cult is a bunch of whiny pussies who can’t take even 10% of what they dish. But it’s fun to play with them.
Yackity yack!
Don’t talk back.
Why are you talking to yourself?
Like everything else you defend, if you actually knew that song you would know why I ask that question.
Don’t get me wrong.
I hope the Money Launderer in Chief remains in office for his full term. He may kowtow to the dominionists, but he’s not a true believer like Pence is. His election kept another dominionist from taking office. Maybe the only good thing to come from Dumbshit failing upward is that teh new state religion might be held at bay.
Then again, he’s a dumbshit who half-asses everything then calls it golden. So who’s to know if the dominionists won’t just take over anyway?
As long as he keeps the cult focused on 30 year-old white supremacist propaganda from some other country, they won’t be clamoring for the destruction of the Al Aqsa complex.
Some good vibes coming from our week 3 opponent
https://m.imgur.com/a/pIZfwSh
Holy shit
Ruh roh shaggy. Let’s see if it gets traction.
And people like to hate on Twitter.
Sometimes you hate twitter because some neanderthal dumbshit trust fund brat can confirm his dumbshit biases with the Rasputin-esque flick of his always phallic fingers.
Sometimes you love it because it actually speaks truth to power.
sorry… I didnt see that bendbeaver had already said the same thing
“It’s those Nike cleats.” That’s what she said.
Do the ducks have lots of leg injuries too, or do the beavs get the Trojan horse shoes?
I wouldn’t know. I also wouldn’t care.
What was your point?
I think that’s a valid question. As long as I’m into a conspiracy theory – I’d like some data & perhaps a test trial with different shoe brands – if allowed.
You’re not going to find much more than analogy when looking for it. There’s just no money to be had from the studies necessary to compile such data.
On the running side:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1170253/The-painful-truth-trainers-Are-expensive-running-shoes-waste-money.html
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/11/21/high-tech-trainers-likely-cause-injury-new-study-suggests/
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http://running.competitor.com/2018/08/injury-prevention/are-shoes-really-to-blame-for-running-injuries_12779
It makes complete sense to those of us who grew up when everyone wore chuck taylors (vans if you were rich, pro leathers if you played hoops), the aforementioned tiger (thanks to a company called blue ribbon sports), and adidas sl. I remember a company called pony too. And nike bruins were actually a decent shoe.
I remember my only knee injuries in my life. They’re hard to forget. One was two weeks into everyday PT in Nike Marathons. The other was two days into trying to break in some Nike Blazers. The latter was worse. The former was when I discovered that a heel wedge and cushioning suck for things like running and lifting.
Vans weren’t for rich people, they were for guys who actually rode skateboards. Chucks were the worst skate shoe ever, I could Ollie a hole in the side of a Chuck Taylor in a day. Madrid Fly and Caballero Vans were the best skate shoes made. 1st generation Jordans were skate shoes for rich people. I remember Chris Miller and Mike McGill ran em.
Good to know.
Where I grew up, there were no boarders. So vans were something of an import from kookie California. The people who moved to our area were mostly oil execs. Their kids wore vans but didn’t skate.
I will say that SoCal in the early 80s exposed me to skaters, and I knew a couple guys who liberally applied shoe goo to new chucks.
I wonder if that spray rubber stuff would do the same thing.
I was one of those 1st gen Jordan kids back when I skated, but we weren’t rich. My family was friends with the guy responsuble for getting Jordan signed with Nike(Bob Strausser, not Phil Knight) and he got us early samples of the red/white and black/red Jordans.
Sadly, they got destroyed over the summer and sit in a landfill somewhere. If only I had known people would pay thousands for those same shoes 35 years later.
A little trivia-Kids versions were called “sky jordan” back then instead of “air jordan” because they didnt make air technology for smaller sizes.
Where would you rank airwalks vs vans? I used to like my airwalk hightops
I had a pair of the first airwalks with the lace covers for the vert guys. They were good shoes, broke in decently then wore out quick. I ran a few pairs of the second gen ones and they took a long time to break in but they were made of quality materials and they lasted.
Want to know why?
Because Chris Miller was sponsored by Airwalk but he would only wear them at sponsored events. The rest of the time he’d wear Jordans. So Airwalk bought some Jordans and took them apart and made their new shoes basically Jordan copies for skaters. I went through a few pairs of them but never really fell in love with them because the soles were so stiff.
I loved Vans but they’d Ollie through the sides after a few weeks at most. The Madrid Fly Vans had the suede double thick all the way down the side and a rubber cap on the toe. I’d actually wear out the soles of them before I’d rip through the sides, it was like a miracle haha.
The Cabs were similar in design. I pretty much run checkered slip on Spiccolis in the summer and all suede Cabs the rest of the year these days. Not for skating, just for walking around like an old man haha.
I remember reading once that futbol cleats are better than football cleats for a number of reasons, one of them being a lesser ACL injury rate. But this one tells us that football cleats just generally suck for feet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28632050
It’s a shit product..
agreed
Not a shocker but I hear it’s gonna be Luton as the starter and Blount as the #2 next weekend.
Eek.
That’s what she said…
… with a strangely low timbre.
Dont worry, some buckeye LB is going to decapitate him. I think he might be cannon fodder.
You been talkin’ to Marcus Greaves?…………….oops, I did say I’d leave that dead horse alone.
Anybody who plays QB is going to get throttled! The Beavs don’t have the talent upfront on either side of the ball to protect or rush the passer! It doesn’t matter who ya have back their. This team lacks skill and depth at many other key positions besides the QB position.
Go Beavs!
Interesting.
Space-saving? Cost?
OT: Beav Volleyball opens the season with a win against UVA in Ames Iowa.
I am the consummate objective realist. This is going to be a long, painful football season.
The team is undermanned and any false confidence built up by the new staff during camp will be pummeled out of them in the Shoe in front of 110k + Buckeye fans. Already lost two of our premier players before leaving camp. Luck O Da Beavs baby.
The ceiling is 3 wins. More than that and Lil Jon should be PAC coach of the year. Row the Beaver.
Back when I was coaching the Beavs we had a word for what you have summarized above…. “Saturday.”
I agree man. It really sucks too!! That first game will be a very big indicator of how this team handles adversity. I don’t see 3 wins but I would take it for sure.
Go Beavs!
The first game is meaningless. It’s a body bag game set up by Bikey as a neat deal for the players.
Keeping ourselves healthy is the only thing that matters for that game.
This season will be a good test for the coaching staff. Did they really know what they were signing up for? Are they really dedicated to building this program up from the bottom of the hole it’s in? We’ll see how they handle the adversity and if they can keep this team motivated and competing. If they can hold this team together and keep them hungry toward the end of the season then I’ll be optimistic for the future.
Well said. My thoughts exactly. The interesting storyline is whether the losing causes them to have a mental breakdown like GA did.
You have it backwards, the mental instability and GA’s personal hubris led to the losses.
Seems like the teams mental breakdown happened after GA went cuckoo for coco-puffs.
With a name like that, she was destined to become a cheerleader.
It’s her “cheerleader” name.
Mental breakdown? I’m totally sane but hired the wrong big boy pants that didn’t fit wardaddies who couldn’t respect the process or make plays or win games and I hug ’em and flee to Utah woooooooooooo arm legs and mind!
Good post. One of the pitfalls I see though, is the Riley fans blaming the Andersen regime if Smith goes 1-11 or even win less. Agreed, it will be partial blame but those same people are the ones that ragged the Andersen regime before game 1 of season 1. It was too far out of their comfort zone. So it might give Smith a blank check to have several bad seasons in a row with no pressure because he’s a good ol’ boy! That to me, is one of the main problems here. Any coach worth their salt, will tell you that rebuilding a program (like this one), takes a complete change of culture to build a successful program. I don’t think the culture is any different than the Riley era (from what I have heard/seen).
Nothing against Smith. Loved him as a player but he is over his head in this situation IMO. We’ll see
Go Beavs!
Smith is da man
If he goes on to win a few games and keeps this team competitive, then I will totally agree with you Alpha. Personally, I think winning 3 games alone would be HUGE! I don’t see it.
Go Beavs!
You’re wrong — you definitely do have something against smith. Jonathan is more a disciple of Chris Peterson (6 yrs) and Dennis Erickson (5 yrs) than he is Mike Riley (3 yrs). It’s also pretty clear that Jonathan already has changed the culture.
9’s fine. He actually stacks up well against other would head coaches around the NCAA. One really poor assistant hire could have scuttled his career before it began. But we just have to watch the product to know what we have. You can’t hide what’s on the field with weird spin.
If we see inconsistent effort with zero consequences, then I will be amazed at his prescience and look to see if he got anything else right. But we can’t really expect clarity from someone who refuse to provide any real basis for a true argument.
Care to enlighten us on how Smith has changed the culture in his few months as the Head Coach already? The culture doesn’t just change overnight. It would take a great/experienced coach longer than this to turn this culture around!
Also, you do realize that Smith was brought to OSU in the late 90’s as a walk-on by Mike Riley right? And that he has brought Riley back (Riley left), then he brought him back again (now as a consultant)?! The amount of seasons with the other respective coaches really doesn’t mean as much. Listen to his pressers. He has very little tone of Peterson and Zero of Coach Erickson.
Go Beavs!
this appears to fit the criteria re: culture change:
“2. OSU defense showing change in culture”
https://oregonstate.rivals.com/news/the-3-2-1-oregon-state-still-searching-for-starting-qb
Looking back at it now I’m not convinced that Simple Jack was Smith’s idea. I’m willing to bet that was a big booster “welcome back, oh by the way Simple Jack just got canned and he’s going to come work for you. Find him a job” type of move. He obviously wasn’t doing any real position coaching and he was gone before they even completed their first camp.
If you think Tibesar hasn’t changed the culture of the defense you’re fucking retarded.
There’s an article, written by a journalist strictly about the defense. I was arguing about the fact that Smith needs to change the culture of the program (not just the defense).
I do want to add something to that “culture change” on defense, does that “change” include, giving up over 200 yards to two true freshman and a few TDs in their first Fall Scrimmage? Your defense should NEVER get beat by the offense early in Fall Camp. I wasn’t at the scrimmage but having been a football coach and having played, I can tell you right now, if a team is giving up that much real estate and scores they are more than likely:
1) Losing the edges (contain)
2) Still arm tackling or not wrapping up the BC
3) taking poor pursuit angles
and/or
4) giving up big plays with miscommunications/ Improper reads pre/post snap
5) Lastly (out of some teams control) lack of talent
One of the things about “coach speak” that always remains is that they ALL say that they do/are going to do all the basics; tackle well, pursue, contain the BC, stay on top of the play (deeper than the deepest), etc…
But, talk is cheap! What you do well and what you don’t do well always show up in games! And what you don’t do well translates to one thing….It’s not that important to you! Or else you would do it! Banker was famous for this!!
Go Beavs!
So are the Beavs signing Eget for their next QB or what?
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24478611/kiko-alonso-miami-dolphins-hangs-baltimore-ravens
What do they teach down South?
Odd. There’s a pattern in his life.
That’s not your car.
That’s not your house.
That’s not your sideline.
Kiko got concussed in a Rose bowl several years back, was visibly stumbling around, and yet he remained on the field. too funny!!!
The Ohio State punishment is a joke to begin with, and i bet they aren’t enforcing it anyway. Yesterday they just signed a graduate transfer QB from West Virginia. It seems unlikely that happens without Urban’s input.
Samuels went off against Hawaii yesterday.
5 TD passes and a school record 537 passing yards.
Wish Smith had gotten him to OSU.
Recent mention was made of the female trainer who came to the Beavs from the Steelers.
On June 6, 2018, Ariko Iso joined Towson Univerity after less than a year at San Jose State.
She was a “feel good” story, having obtained her degree from OSU and becoming the first full-time female athletic trainer in the NFL. At Towson she has the title: Head Athletic Trainer for Football (the same title she held when with the Beavs).
She left OSU just before the 2017 FB season……….couldn’t fit into “big boy pants”?
Fucking quitter.
Why?
Did she quit? Was she told in no uncertain terms that her rehab schedule conflicted with putting meat on the field?
Or was she just plain old fired?
If the former, did she give notice and help the university transition to the new hire?
I mean… just last week you all were blaming her for weird injuries involving people who go play in traffic for hours at a time. You didn’t even know she wasn’t here anymore.
No idea of the answer, but found it interesting to note that her short stint at SJSU (where she had earned a Phd) was NOT with football. Instead, she was responsible for basketball and cheerleaders.
Seems like a placeholder job for her as she searched for opportunities in FB away from OSU. There could be an interesting story there for a beat writer with time on his/her hands.
Agreed.
It’s as if she called in a couple favors and took a temp job after an unexpected departure, so she could find a new job.
It’s probably because a drunk cheerleader got her pregnant.
Feel good?
She was hired by one of the best NFL franchises ever and held a job with them for almost a decade. She worked for them longer than most of their employees work for them.
One interesting aspect of it all is that Ariko was a huge proponent of the mental health part of any game, including mental acuity as well as counseling.
Feel good?….damned straight.
It’s an honest expression of admiration for an alumni who has had success in their chosen field and decides to return to their alma mater to continue their career. A sign of respect for her achievements in what had been a field dominated by men. A recognition of what she symbolized for the Japanese-American community.
But I think you know that, Jack.
I’m interested in her mental health involvement, gotta link?
“Feel good” emotes fluff.
“Inspirational” emotes inspiration.
That’s what I know.
My predictions is Luton will get the nod for the first game. Blount will get some work in too when the game gets out of hand.
I’m not convinced that Smith will go with one guy all year. I think he’ll be pretty quick with the hook if Luton struggles early. Plus Luton and Blount are somewhat injury prone.
Considering Luton was named the starter, per the dude above, that’s not much of a prediction.
Smith hasn’t named a starter yet. Will do at practice later today.
The QB’s were told before the weekend who the starter is. It’s Luton.
~ The Dude Above
I heard it’s going to be Dukart….
Kind of old news but I only learned recently Hermiston is going to be playing in a Washington league and compete for their state titles starting this year. Crazy but understandable to their specific circumstances.
Almost time for Ohio State game week prep thread. Looking outwardly, visiting Ohio State right now, is about as good of a time as we could expect to visit Ohio State. Inwardly of course there are lots of question marks and areas to improve. But outwardl positives are, first game of the year, their coach is suspended, they are facing a new coached team with who really knows what for schemes, there will be more fans in the stands displeased with their coaching staff than we will show up with.
Outwardly I don’t thunk we could’ve found a better time to visit an Urban Meyer Ohio State program. Ohio State has historically seen trouble with season openers, but with homecooking they historically have been able to tread water, just well enough sometimes, to survive.
Yeah, I don’t know anything about Ohio State.
If anyone does, fill me in so I can do a writeup, or link me to some reading material so I can get a sense.
The +37 spread should be on body bags not points.
Here’s a link to a video with all plays that their new QB had last year in garbage time
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_skFk-9WoXk
Jonathan Smith will be the oldest head coach in next week’s game since he’s 2 months older than Ohio State interim coach Ryan Day. The Buckeyes lost 7 defensive starters from last year including 5 to the NFL. Their offense is supposed to be all-world but their QB is new, and he’s not a runner like Barrett was. If we had Togiai playing, if their game planning was out of sync from the coach situation and if they totally overlooked us like Stanford did against us last year, then I was hoping we could score a few TDs and make a game of it. We’ll need their QB to really lay an egg. If he’s on, they’ll probably score at will.
I don’t think Togiai is that big a loss. He’s a good athlete, but he had several crucial drops last year. In the pass game, there’s no reason the younger guys can’t step into his shoes.
Togiai is a great athlete who has proven that he can get open. His dropsies and QBs missing him still scare the hell out of the opposing coaches, because they know that even a team with the collective yips can put it all together for a couple quarters and change the outcome every now and then.
The projected skill of the incoming TEs mitigates his loss. The anticipation of the dropsies does so further. Maybe he overcame them, and his loss is more real than we expected?
Can”t prove a negative, so we’ll never know. But we do lose experienced depth and great athleticism, despite mitigating factors. So it’s at least a loss in terms of not being able to fully utilize the roster to protect the group as a whole.
If you think Buckeye gans are going to be “displeased with their coaching staff,” you’re kidding yourself.
Fans in Columbus worship at the altar of W’s. That’s it.
The Buckeyes have started slow under Urban, and there’s not a lot of experience coming back, BUT there will be way more talent on their sideline than there is on ours.
Are you going to the game? I’m not, nor my Beaver traveling friends. And we’ve been to all these big non conference games over the years. 105,000+ will be in attendance, what percentage will be Oregon State fans? What percentage of that crowd harbors some displeasure with the coaching behavior situation? I’m thinking 1% vs less than 10%.
I’m going, Live in Nashville, anytime the Beavs are less than a days drive I’ll make the effort to go. I went to women’s tournament games in Knoxville and Lexington earlier this year.
I’m mostly going because Horseshoe has been on my list of Stadiums to visit. Expecting to lose by 40, but I’m going to have a good time.
Got a few buddies going, but they live in the Midwest. I’m bummed, I was hoping to see the biggest upset in Beav history in person.
Having a hard time writing anything about this Ohio State game. I don’t know anything about Ohio State (I’d have to watch film and read writeups about them). Assume they’re good to great as always.
What do you guys think in terms of a write up? Like Keith Pankey, I’m not even sure of an angle to take other than the spread (37) should be for body bags instead of points.
Beavs are getting paid to go 0-1. Better than not getting paid to go 0-1, I suppose, as long as we can remain somewhat injury free.
Might as well start the SUU preview research to get a head start.
I don’t know anything about any of these teams…so out of touch. I ignored football for the past 7 months. Some of that due to moving, and some just being disenchanted with the sport and bored/disgusted (Riley) with the Beavs.
If anyone wants to chime in with writeups just email me.
Same here.
I’ve looked into recruiting, since they’re untouched by the new and (yet to be seen) OSU football program. I tried looking at position groups but found pretty much slightly better talent than we’ve had for a couple years and a complete variable on how they’ll be used. Until I actually see something on the field, this coach and team are just unknown.
gobeavs92 does have a point that we can’t claim culture change until we see it… and that Bikey’s hire (I’m not against him being an unpaid consultant, given we’re in compliance) was a major indication that nothing will change. But we part ways beyond that. The rest sounds like the negative exposure to pollyannas–as weird and confusing as their rhetoric.
Considering Keith Pankey is in ICU battling for his life right now, maybe lay off the stupid smack talk for a while?
What’s wrong with him?
Heart issues
Shit.
Well good luck to him. But he was a terrible tackler. They’re not mutually exclusive.
Ohio State’s middle linebacker Tuf Borland is unlikely to play Saturday – he’s coming back from an achilles tear
their interim coach Ryan Day was the QB at New Hampshire when Chip Kelly was the OC there
they’re a little unsettled on the O-line, they’re moving guys around and not sure who will start at left tackle
From The Scoop:
http://footballscoop.com/news/urban-meyer-apologizes-courtney-smith-statement/
That dude is what you’d called a functional psychopath, also known as a born loser. He’ll likely be out of football within a few years.
Any chance we can get a new thread? i feel like its 1998 and on a dial-up modem with how slow its moving.
Yes, that’s why I’m asking what to write about. I have no type of game week writeup since I don’t know what’s going on with either team.
New thread up with my best guess given my limited knowledge.