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  1. 45-7. RBs (primarily) and TEs have a field day. D with a few turnovers.

    Poor attendance due to surety of win, warm weather, and 3 day weekend.

  2. Even with all of the change, I don’t see Bray coming out and underperforming against lower level competition like Mike Riley did preseason. Bray is too focused and intense, particularly in game 1 for him as HC.

    I think (and hope) Angry is wrong.

  3. If we can’t beat Idaho State by at least 4 touchdowns, we will probably lose to Boise State and don’t stand a chance against Oregon. 35 – 7

    • You do know that the score of a game vs an FCS team is not an indication of what will happen the rest of the season. the 2000 Fiesta Bowl team beat E Washington 21-19 and had to come from behind the next week to beat New Mexico 28-20 and they had a veteran team with Dennis Erickson in his 2nd season. Just saying.

  4. Josh Griffis no longer with the program. Tarlington state guy if you don’t remember the name. Was he making a push for playing time or just a washout?

    • Someone on X mentioned it might’ve been off-field issues. I don’t think he was involved in the last week of fall camp, or maybe not at all? Anyway, it hasn’t been reported officially why but it seems like a likely reason why at this stage of the season.

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      “In a statement from athletic director Scott Barnes, “Josh Griffis is not currently participating in Oregon State football team activities. Student privacy laws prevent OSU from disclosing additional information related to any student athlete’s protected educational information. The OSU Department of Athletics reaffirms that all student athletes have a responsibility to adhere to team, department and university standards, expectations and policies.”

      The well-traveled Griffis began his career at Florida State, then Garden City CC, Jackson State and Tarleton State. Griffis had five sacks and 8½ tackles for loss last season at Tarleton State.”

      Changing my prediction based on this. 24-21 nailbiter, won’t say who is winning….

      • https://x.com/ifk1093236/status/1828127005289914803?s=46&t=4EUkouRSX6geqbxlTsM7Tg

        In regards to Griffis situation, these Snapchat posts went out last night from an OSU student.

        When the rumors hit this morning his social-media accounts had been set to private, they have since been deleted.

        This would have been the 2nd time that complaints were made about his behavior, as he was briefly removed from the roster right at the start of camp.

        For those unaware, he was kicked of Florida State after his freshman season after busting into his ex-gf dorm room and refusing to come out in a rage for hours. He then bounced around to JUCO, Jackson State and Tarleton State before getting picked up by the Beavs.

        That worried me as the last thing OSU needs right now is some kind of scandal around the football program protecting a domestic abuser or creeper in light of the pressure to win now at all costs.

        That he couldn’t get through fall camp without two reported incidents is pretty indicative of him being a lost cause. Threw his career away cause he couldn’t stay off Snapchat DMs. Steve Lattimer from “The Program” incarnate.

        He’s also been rumored to have been quite the locker room cancer, so it’s a big addition by subtraction situation, aside from the fact that he really can play and was tearing it up in camp and projected to start.

        Also apparently his agent made a X post defending him (since deleted) and had reportedly threatened legal action against OSU and DAM Nation, so it could be a fun headache for Barnes and Bray to deal with if it drags out.

        Good riddance.

  5. Beavs 45-10,
    Bray will have them ready to go and the offense may surprise at least in this game. No one has film of what is being practiced so Idaho St will likely be overwhelmed. The film will make the following week a bit dicier because OSU will be a bit more scouted.

    Defense will shine, offense will be good and Bray will get his first win in fine Reser fashion. Beavs dominate and run over the Bengals.

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    Choppy ugly opening few drives have us all nervous. Idaho St is tied 7-7 late in the first quarter. Beats eventually pull away and win 38-10.

    At least one really unfortunate injury will remind us all how the universe feels about Beaver football.

    • Let’s go! Just saw th3 announcement! He got bumped to a 3 star a couple weeks ago and I’m sure a strong season could push him higher.

    • Thats great news! What position is he projected at? Hopefully he’s a chip off the ole block. SJ was a great running back and probably would have been a beast at LB!

        • Yeah he’s a RB. I remember reading somewhere that SJ specifically didn’t let him play football until HS because they didn’t want Skyler taking a bunch of hits at a young age. He’s still fairly early in his learning curve, but definitely has the physical traits to be a good one.

          It’s pretty awesome to see so many legacy Beavs continuing to come aboard.

    • I like his highlights. Physical runner with good speed and balance. Loves the spin move, maybe a little too much, but he bounces off tackles really well.

  7. Agree with OhioBeav. I like what Bray said about McCoy that he can use his legs when the play breaks down. Nothing against BG but I think McCoy and Gabari(?) have more upside to make the offense REAL good. I think the defense will be stout again.

    • It’s just a long-planned refresh of the JS era uni’s, wasn’t supposed to be an all new look.

      They aren’t my favorite either, but they aren’t bad. IMO it would be an instant upgrade if they just lost the big top-o-shoulder striping.

      I know the players are stoked about them, especially the all-whites, which is what matters the most.

  8. McCoy strikes me as a slow learner, as it has taken him awhile to get a good grasp on the playbook and to have the confidence to make plays with the game being so much faster at this level. In the few interviews he’s given he doesn’t come off as an overly extraverted or charismatic kind of guy, but more introverted and earnest. He’s kind of the opposite QB archetype of BG.

    He’s a gamer. He’s really good and getting the ball out quick and throwing strikes, but isn’t the kind of guy who’s gonna stand in the pocket and make all the NFL caliber dimes and throw guys open with elite touch and placement (Penix), that’s not his game.

    From what I can surmise from watching SJSU and UCLA film from the last several years, I imagine this is going to be a very different offense then what we’ve seen from the Beavs in basically forever. GA/McGiven would be the closest but he never really decided who he wanted the team to be on offense.

    Instead of making detailed-oriented pre-snap adjustments trying to isolate particular matchups every play with all the high IQ stuff that went into JS’s pro-style system, this is all about playing fast and making quick reactive reads.

    They’ll be in 11, 12, 22, 10, and even 13, 23, 31, and 32 personnel groups, it’s all over the place.

    At it’s core, it’s an old-school running based offense with a lot of inside and outside zone, and downhill counter and leads with pulling guards and TE’s attacking the second level. In the passing game, everything happens fast. McCoy isn’t going to be sitting in the pocket waiting for routes to develop or taking 4-5 seconds off the clock with long play-action looks from under center. “Deep balls” take on a different meaning because if the read is there it’ll show itself and the ball will need to be out within 3 seconds, everything is supposed to happen fast.

    For the Defense, no matter what personnel group/formation the Offense shows, it all looks the same out of the Shotgun/RPO look so it’s hard to get a pre-snap beat on what the offense is doing. There’s lots of pre-snap motion that makes it look all fancy and “innovative” even though it’s a basic inside or outside zone or a quick slant to gash for 10-15 yards (basically non-existent with DJU last season), and it all looks the same in eyes of the Defense.

    It’s an offensive philosophy based on the players reacting to what they see and feel as opposed to thinking and analyzing their way to leveraging an advantage. It’s the kind of “Multiple” offensive philosophy most Defensive head coaches are fans of (Kyle Whittingham, Kirby Smart, Dave Aranda), so I’m not surprised Bray went that route, as big of a departure it is from what they’ve done with JS.

    ISU defensive front won’t be able to stop the O-Line and the RB’s from dominating with their basic stuff, and when they load the box they’ll make it easy for McCoy to get out quick strikes to wide-open looks. All 3 QB’s will get a shot to get comfortable with the new system and I think all of them probably lead a scoring drive.

    Understand the pessimism and low expectations and don’t think it will be a perfect game by any means, but I think they blow out ISU by 4+ scores even while making some mistakes and working the kinks out of learning the new system.

    If it’s a nail-biter…yikes, we could be in for a real long and painful season.

    Go Beavs.

    • “ISU defensive front won’t be able to stop the O-Line and the RB’s from dominating with their basic stuff, and when they load the box they’ll make it easy for McCoy to get out quick strikes to wide-open looks. All 3 QB’s will get a shot to get comfortable with the new system and I think all of them probably lead a scoring drive.”

      Agree. I think this is spot on. The staff is very high on the OLine potential, more optimistic than “cautiously optimistic” like one might normally expect. Hoping McCoy doesn’t have trouble seeing over the line as one practice report suggested.

      Griffin and Hankerson will dominate, Allah should get some 4Q carries and show his potential.

      Griffin shouldn’t be returning KOs though. Can’t Zach Card do that to get some reps?

  9. Jamai East out with a bad leg injury. Hope he can recover from a torn acl, lcl and meniscus. WR a spot of depth but that’s at least 2 out for the season.

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    Latest straw polls: UConn alone. 10 are a yes. UConn and Zags. 11 yes. UConn/Zags/Pac2(fball only) 10 yes.
    Mhver x,
    If that’s the deal, backfill acc sounds better.

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    Con’t. “Networks will give 1 prorata share for the 2 bball adds and 1 prorata share for the 2 FBall adds. If all 4 come it’s 4 schools sharing 2 full shares. UConn alone espn will do their prorata ($21m).”
    Mhver x

  12. Thoughts about the depth chart from the Tribune, pardon if this has already been mentioned.
    https://www.portlandtribune.com/sports/observations-from-oregon-state-footballs-week-one-depth-chart/article_e2dfff64-63e8-11ef-8489-337de19b2e64.html

    The standard from fall camp and in the Bray regime to this point has been that returners from injury start out on the second or third team and work their way back up to the first team. Singleton could be starting by next week, but per secondary coach Rod Chance, Jordan Jr. has looked stout this fall.

    And, regarding Jam Griffin as KR:
    …Bray said the decision was to give one of the most dynamic players on the team as many touches as possible. To this point, Griffin has returned seven kicks in his career for 67 yards and a long of 20 yards.

  13. Idaho State was 116th in the FCS in rush defense last year. Jam will get a heavy workload and hopefully that keeps things easy for McCoy. If this were a good FCS team I’d maybe be more nervous. I don’t think this team will be all that good, but they’ve got enough talent to dominate like they should in this one.

    42-10 Beavs

  14. Seems like basically an exhibition game to work the bugs out. Heavy running game early, hopefully stake a 20+ point lead in the first half and play some other guys in the second half.

    Stay healthy, see lots of people play, win and move on.

    38-10 Beavs.

  15. Ahh, didn’t realize that….Thanks!

    I think they should integrate Bray into it, call out the loyalty factor in a season of change. I doubt he would want to be the object of attention, but he could at least be a prominent feature in the graphic. Color, “Oregon State University,” Benny Beaver, players in new uniforms….color!

  16. ESPN FPI has Beav playoff probability at 10% and final record of 9-3.

    If ESPN likes our chances, you have to feel pretty good.

  17. I worry a little about mixing in 3 qbs and offensive continuity. The o-line and halfbacks should be worth 21+ points alone. So, if the passing game can match…. 42 -10.

  18. CORVALLIS — When Gevani McCoy stepped in front a throng of cameras and microphones for the first time since earning the Oregon State Beavers starting quarterback job, he wore a sparkling gold chain and large lion pendant around his neck.

    “King of the jungle,” McCoy said Tuesday afternoon, flashing a wide smile, as he explained the bling’s significance.

    At the very least, he’s the new king of Corvallis.

    McCoy won over the Oregon State coaching staff with his dual-threat ability, improvisational skills, arm talent, intelligence and consistency, landing the most prominent job at a program fighting for its Power 4 life in the first year of the post-Pac-12 world.

    In some ways, McCoy’s ascent is a long shot. He beat out one player (Ben Gulbranson) who has started nine times and won seven games at Oregon State and another (Gabarri Johnson) with a four-star pedigree. But in other ways, it’s simply another unexpected victory for a player who has been overlooked all his life, even as he’s guided teams to playoff success and earned coveted individual awards.

    For those who have followed McCoy’s journey from unheralded high school recruit to FCS star to OSU starter, the last month has felt eerily similar.

    It was just two seasons ago, after all, that McCoy found himself in a similar multi-player battle for the starting quarterback job at the University of Idaho, where he began his college career.

    When coach Jason Eck arrived in Moscow, Idaho, he looked at the redshirt freshman from California with one eyebrow raised. McCoy stood just 6-feet tall, weighed a measly 173 pounds, coasted in the classroom and hadn’t performed all that well in limited playing time as a true freshman, tossing more interceptions (four) than touchdowns (one) in three games.

    “My first impressions weren’t really all that high,” Eck said. “He wasn’t doing great in school. He was scrawny. He didn’t have the ideal package.”

    The Idaho coaching staff openly discussed moving McCoy to wide receiver or defensive back.

    He defied their expectations in the spring, emerging as the slight favorite in a heated competition that included seven quarterbacks, but it wasn’t enough to ease the staff’s concerns.

    “We didn’t feel great,” Eck said. “So we brought in a transfer.”

    The transfer? J’Bore Gibbs, a 6-3, 215-pound force who had played 10 games under Eck when he was the offensive coordinator at South Dakota State. McCoy’s chances at landing the starting job were seemingly dead.

    Instead, he flourished. McCoy easily won the job in fall camp and had a record-setting freshman season, passing for 2,721 yards, 27 touchdowns and recording a school-record 68.4 completion percentage to win the Jerry Rice Award, given annually to the best freshman in FCS. A year later, after throwing for 2,910 yards and 15 touchdowns, McCoy earned First-Team All-Big-Sky honors and was a finalist for the Walter Payton Award.

    All the while, McCoy had a similar renaissance in the classroom, boosting his grade point average more than a point, from roughly 2.0 to better than 3.0.

    So while Beavers fans spent August contemplating the steadiness of Gulbranson and imagining the tantalizing potential of Johnson, McCoy quietly leaned on what he learned during his experience at Idaho.

    “This isn’t the first time that I’ve been in a QB competition,” he said. “And that helped a whole lot. It was just kind of weird (at Idaho). We went through spring ball and I kind of came out on top and then they brought a guy in. But I just kept my head down and I just stayed at it. And that’s all it wa.

    He said he finally felt like the Beavers had become his team after the first scrimmage, when he completed 7 of 9 passes for 65 yards and had a nice opening drive, which featured a 16-yard completion to wide receiver Darrius Clemons and a 25-yard completion to running back Jam Griffin. It was a small taste of how McCoy performed most of camp.

    “When you when you talk about consistency, it’s consistency in everything,” OSU offensive coordinator Ryan Gunderson said. “It’s consistency in what we’re asking him to do, consistency in hitting throws. And then, what we really want, consistency as a quarterback speaks to not turning the ball over and not taking sacks. And those are two really big parts of offensive football and staying ahead of the chains. So I think those are kind of the areas that he maybe shined in.”

    But McCoy’s win was anything but a landslide. And when Gunderson sat the redshirt junior down last Tuesday to share the news, the Beavers’ first-year offensive coordinator made that abundantly clear.

    “You’ve got two talented guys that are pissed off and hungry now, so they’re going to be chasing,” Gunderson told McCoy. “You better up your game, too.”

    The man who oversaw a similar battle two seasons ago in Idaho has little doubt McCoy will answer Gunderson’s challenge. After all, he’s experienced the king of the jungle.

    “He’s a competitor,” Eck said. “He’s a tough kid. And he competes. I’m not surprised that he would win the QB competition, because I’ve already seen him win one here. He’s a good player who can throw and use his legs — he’s a great scrambler. That’s where he’s at his best. He’s really good off schedule, really good against pressure. Some of that stuff is tough to judge in training camp, when you’re not going live and quarterbacks can’t be hit. So if they liked him enough to give him the job in training camp, they’ll really like him with he faces a live rush and he can escape the sacks.

    “I wish him the best. I’m rooting for him.”

    — Joe Freeman | jfreeman@oregonian.com

  19. Brief OT:

    Came across this mention of one Omar Speights, who wasn’t undrafted:

    “Omar Speights still leads the Rams with three tackles for loss despite not playing on Saturday

    On the Rams’ ABC broadcast, general manager Les Snead confirmed that Speights, an undrafted rookie linebacker, had already shown enough to earn a spot on the 53-man roster. He even went so far as to say they “could be relying on him on Sunday Night Football,” in Week 1.

    Speights put on a defensive clinic through the first two weeks, totaling 11 tackles, eight of which were solo and three of which went for losses. He didn’t miss a single tackle, and his eight defensive stops ranked second in the preseason entering this weekend, per Pro Football Focus, and are now tied for first on the Rams with Elias Neal.”

    — Wyatt Miller, the rams.com

        • I think getting drafted would have only increased his guaranteed money. Looks like he did ok with this deal. The Rams traded their projected started at his position so they must really like Speights

          Omar Speights signed a 3 year , $2,839,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including $9,000 signing bonus, $9,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $946,333

          • I never understood what wasn’t to like about him.

            I can see how he disappeared this last season, but he showed all these skills for us, plus a bunch of intangibles.

            It’s good to see him do well.

  20. Article on cheating Michigan:

    “ This is what happens when a program sells its soul for a championship, when desperation leads to deception, and worse, outright cheating and flouting of rules. When chasing (and eventually catching and passing) bitter rival Ohio State is more important than the foundational moral flex of a “Michigan Man.”

    … Harbaugh and Big Ten coaches were on a conference call discussing the unique circumstances of the pandemic. It was then that Harbaugh accused Ohio State coach Ryan Day ? the same Day whose teams had beaten Michigan every season since Harbaugh returned to his alma mater in 2015 ? of illegal contact with players.

    The very thing Harbaugh and his staff were doing at the same time, and later sanctioned for by the NCAA.

    And wouldn’t you know it, in his first public comment on the NCAA cases since leaving Michigan, Harbaugh stood tall earlier this month and puffed out his chest. Just like a Michigan Man.

    “Never lie, never cheat, never steal,” Harbaugh said during a Los Angeles Chargers weekly press conference. “I was raised on that lesson.”

    Says the coach who lied, cheated and, yes, stole signals.

    The short con paid off, everyone. Reputation be damned.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2024/08/28/michigan-football-reputation-national-title-jim-harbaugh-connor-stalions/74973784007/

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    Fans of the four West Coast schools added to the Big Ten — Oregon, Washington, USC and UCLA — are reporting blackouts of their schools’ live sporting events on the Big Ten Network through Comcast/Xfinity. Customers who tried to tune in for the Huskies’ soccer match on Monday night instead received a message about what appears to be a carriage dispute.

    We’re sensitive to the impact these costs have on our customers and have been in discussions with Fox and the Big Ten Network to find a solution to make certain former Pac-12 games available to the people who want them while not forcing others to pay for content they don’t want to watch,” a representative for Comcast said in a statement. “We hope to be able to reach a fair agreement with Fox and the Big Ten Network to be able to offer these games to our customers.”

    A source with Comcast/Xfinity said the blackout will impact all four new Big Ten markets along with all other Comcast markets without an existing Big Ten team. Negotiations are ongoing and the blackout of games will last until rights to the four new Big Ten schools are granted to Comcast by Fox/BTN, the source said.

    BTN is laying the blame at the feet of Comcast.

    “The Big Ten Network is proud to present an expanded slate of live sporting events featuring the newest members of the B1G conference, however most Comcast subscribers will not see these games,” a BTN spokesperson said in a statement. “As the one distribution partner that declined to expand along with us, Comcast Xfinity viewers in many areas will not have access to live broadcasts of the highly anticipated inaugural B1G season games for Oregon, UCLA, USC and Washington.”

    The QR code in the televised message links to allbtngames.com, which allows fans to enter their zip code and determine whether live events are being blacked out. Entering Portland-, Eugene- and Seattle-area zip codes returns a message indicating a blackout in those areas.”

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      “As the one distribution partner that declined to expand along with us, Comcast Xfinity viewers in many areas will not have access to live broadcasts of the highly anticipated inaugural B1G season games for Oregon, UCLA, USC and Washington.”

      It’s like contracts mean nothing to these people….

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        It is a little funny.

        B1G: Hi, Comcast. How you doin’? By the way, if you want to show these sports, you have to pay us more.

        Comcast: Doin’ okay. It says in our contract that we get the BTN for this much. That’s what we’re paying.

        B1G: We’ll black out the games, if you don’t pay up.

        Comcast: You do you.

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      Ironic. So UW/Oregon imploded the PAC12 for a half share of payouts in a conference that they won’t be allowed to watch the games. Hilarious.
      I wonder if anyone had second thoughts yet.

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    CORVALLIS – Poor Oregon State.

    For more than a year, that’s the narrative for those focused on athletics. OSU was abandoned along with Washington State by its Pac-12 brethren, left with an uncertain future.

    But the business of Oregon State? It couldn’t be better. In an era of shrinking college enrollment, Oregon State is expecting enrollment to grow for a 28th consecutive year when the school begins classes for fall quarter. According to the school’s research, Oregon State is the only R1-rated public university, of 108 schools, that has shown continuous year-to-year growth from 1996 to 2023. By contrast, University of Oregon’s enrollment declined 13 times during that period.

    An R1 public school is defined as a university that has achieved the highest level of research productivity and output in the country. Among R1 universities are most of of the Power 4 public schools, including all the former Pac-12 schools.

    Oregon State has grown from 14,069 students in 1996 to what president Jayathi Murthy says will exceed 38,000 this fall.

    The past two summers, the campus has been a full-on construction zone with its buildings and roads. Construction of a $200 million supercomputer center, which includes $50 million in seed money from Nvidia founder Jensen Huang, is underway. The school generated nearly $480 million in research grants last year. That total has shown double-digit percentage growth for at least the past four years,

    “It’s a good problem to have. It’s not a problem that a lot of universities have right now. They’re all scrambling to make up for lack of enrollment,” said Murthy, who became OSU president in September 2022.

    Yet, the recent public narrative is poor Oregon State. It used to be a Power 5 school. It is something less now?

    “We’ve got to tell the story of what we’re building. If we tell that story, we’re going to be fine,” Murthy said. “Look, we’re going to have to tell it louder and bigger, for sure.”

    With the 2024-25 school year only a few weeks away, Murthy recently sat down with The Oregonian/OregonLive to discuss Oregon State and Beaver athletics (some answers were lightly edited for brevity and clarity):

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/08/oregon-states-jayathi-murthy-says-school-has-a-story-to-tell-about-booming-business-were-going-to-have-to-tell-it-louder-and-bigger.html

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      Here’s a link to get ya to Murthy’s answers:
      https://archive.ph/Zw3qM

      Some snippets:

      How does OSU sell itself to Big12/ACC?
      We were what, a top 15 program last year? A higher ranking in some weeks. That doesn’t happen by accident… we weren’t the worst in terms of audiences and in terms of wins, we were pretty close to the top. That’s worth something, right? Line us up against half the Big 10 and half the ACC, and we’ll do just fine in all those numbers. There’s not a numerical basis to say that we don’t belong. We absolutely do.

      Her impression of Bray
      I think he knows the enterprise, right? He knows OSU inside out, has good relationships with, certainly with Scott and his staff. He came off to me as a person who is really about developing athletes. It’s not about buying the next hot thing on the market and sticking him on the team. I mean, he is really about building athletes and having them succeed.

      On Scott Barnes:
      He really understands that complete university function. I never get purely athletic attitudes from Scott.
      The other thing that makes him really wonderful is that he is deeply, deeply ethical. There are no shortcuts. There will be no shortcuts when student athletes mess up. He holds them to account, because he understands that it’s student-plus-athlete, right? That’s important.

      “He holds them to accoiunt”….interesting thought, in light of the recent Josh Griffis news.

    • Remember when OSU had a $50M mystery donor to get the newest phase of Reser construction going?
      Makes you wonder if it was Huang? $50M for athletics, $50M for a Super Computer Center. Maybe that’s his go to number?

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        My money is still on it being Uncle Phil. He’s donated to OSU before, and his wife is an OSU alum. I believe I read somewhere that he possibly funded the new video board at Gill. Unlikely he’d want his name on an athletics donation of stadium size magnitude to a rival school, however. Huang has never shown any interest in OSU athletics, and it’s a very limited group of people who would have the funds to make a donation like that.

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            For reference:

            Phil Knight did play mediator between Nike and Pat Casey, to get Nike to pay Casey more in his endorsement deal. This was to keep him from going to Notre Dame, back in the day.

            The other thing that happened at that time was Penny Knight is a huge baseball fan, and she was upset Nikegon didn’t have a team. So her will became reality, via Daddy Phil and Kilkenny.

            I have no idea where these recenbt rumors about her “being an alum” or her even caring about OSU comes from, other than Duck fan fiction, trying to romanticize their one-percenter.

            This is also the first time I’ve ever heard this so-called rumor about the scoreboard. That one is just funny.

          • The really weird thing about Duck fans is it exposes the weird Parasocial relationship they have with him yet don’t even know his story. The fact that he mentions he met Penny while she was a student in his class at Portland State from his OWN book escapes them. Which if I’m not mistaken is where she transferred to from Oregon State.

        • Student Beaver: Phil’s wife is not an OSU alum. She attended OSU for one year (‘66-‘67) before transferring to Portland State.

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        It wasn’t Huang or Uncle Phil. It was anonymously given as a gesture from boosters not interested in the publicity and long time Beaver supporters. Don’t worry about who it was, just know that it wasn’t the beginning of an OSU sugar daddy, or an extension of Oregon’s sugar daddy.

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    My final unbiased predictions for the games this season:

    Idaho State-W: Should be a relatively easy win however things may be not fully ironed out. We’ll be in trouble the rest of the year if this isn’t a gimme. ISU is not even a good FCS team.

    SDSU-W: SDSU has a new coach as well this year. Should hopefully be smooth.

    Oregon-L: As much as we would all love a win here more than anything, I just don’t see it happening.

    Purdue-L: Purdue is not a good BIG 10 team, but they are in fact a BIG 10 team and aren’t breaking in an entirely new roster. I feel their stability compared to us will get them the win.

    CSU-W: This should hopefully be a relatively easy win at home.

    Nevada-W: Nevada showed this past week that they aren’t a pushover, but this should be an easy win if things are firing on all cylinders.

    UNLV-L: UNLV is a great Mountain West school unfortunately I feel they take this one.

    Cal-L: We struggled with them more than we should have last year, and its an away game. Similar to Purdue, Cal is not a good power 4 team, however I feel their stability and home field advantage will lend them the win.

    SJSU-W: Should be a win at home but they were tricky last year and beat UNLV. Could see a loss here too.

    Air Force-L: Away game at high elevation versus a tricky triple option offense? Unfortunately screams loss to me.

    WSU-W: I feel this will be the most fun game to attend this year. On paper we should be pretty evenly matched. I feel our home field advantage gets us the win.

    BSU-L: Away game versus the defending MW champion. I think this screams loss to me. Their stability and home field advantage brings them the win.

    Final regular season prediction: 6-6. I’ll be more than happy if my prediction is incorrect, but I just don’t think we can expect more than this record given our current situation and the gutting of the team from last year, in addition to any growing pains with the new staff. At least this schedule is likely the weakest we have had in decades, maybe the weakest in the modern college football era for OSU. I’m open to debate.

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        I love how you keep running with this weird theory of yours that I’m a Duck fan despite showing nothing but strong support for OSU in my comments. Yes, I criticize OSU and their teams when they deserve it, as we all should. That’s what one would expect from a website called “angrybeavs”.

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          But your takes are all Duck narratives.

          What person from OSU who thinks they have the base knowledge to make critical observations of it does that?

          For years, this Phil Knight myth has persisted… as Duck Troll’s argument that we have somehow benefitted from him in any way besides the very well known mediation with Casey? Hell, that continued narrative usually ignores that fact and tries to gaslight everyone that it was Knight donating his own money to OSU to give Casey a raise, even though what happened was clearly reported at the time.

          The problem with critical thinking would be Occam. If it looks/talks/walks like a Duck, it’s probably a Duck.

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            You fail to mention that I have previously posted my student ID with a paper stating my username next to it, and posted pictures from the student section at Reser. Occam’s Razor would not apply to your theory given those facts.

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            I can network and do the same right now. I can show you a pic of the OSU Admin building, within the hour, and I don’t even need to drive up there.

            The interwebs have been around a while.

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            You bring up Occam’s razor to explain that that I’m a Duck troll because you say it’s the simplest explanation, then come up with some elaborate scheme in your mind in which I am playing the long ball to fake being an OSU student on this low traffic forum for over a year now through networking to get a fake picture of an OSU student ID, a picture of a student ticket, and finding pictures of the student section view online, instead of just figuring maybe I’m an OSU student that can take off the orange colored glasses and criticize OSU athletics?

            Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

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            Yes, elaborate. It’s elaborate to theorize that I am some Duck fan/student in kahoots with an OSU student to keep up a supposed ruse of me being an OSU student on this niche OSU forum for going on a year and a half now, rather than the reality simply being that I am who I say I am.

            I would like to remind you again that there’s no examples of me rooting for or supporting the Ducks on this forum, and I have done nothing but root for OSU.

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            It’s not that hard.

            If have friends with social media accounts, you can just lift them from there.

            The interwebs isn’t really some mysterious place. A lot of people really like being on it, and we all know one or more of them… sometimes many more.

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      I mean, ESPN gives us 9-3, and they actually typed our name into an article to do it.

      They also didn’t call us the Ducks.

      Your biting commentary isn’t even as conservative as theirs.

      It’s a bunch of you do or don’t think.

    • Regarding stability, I think you’re underestimating Bray, who was in part a stability hire for the PROGRAM, but he also keeps much of the defense intact. And yes, I get the turnover at the Coordinators level, and that Gunderson will be calling the plays for his first(?) time, but Bray does provide stability for the program and much of the roster.

      He also doesn’t give away momentum with head-scratching ST and 4th down play calls. That’s likely worth 1-2 wins right there.

      If the O and D lines can’t compete with UO lines, that should be a blowout loss.

      Purdue is a weak big 10 team and in Reser. Its winnable depending on how the Beavers react to the outcomes of the UO game.

      UNLV has that productive O coordinator wth the go-go offense, that should be a challenge. I wanted him in the candidate pool when they were hiring staff and would have preferred him as an OC over Gunderson. That should be an entertaining game, and hopefully the Las Vegas environment doesn’t distract the OSU players too much.

      Cal is legitimate DI, and I read in here someone said they did pretty well in the transfer portal(?), but their fans are a non-factor and the Beavers can win there in a quiet environment.

      The end of the season is challenging, with a trip to Air Force at 6K feet as you point out, then WSU at home, then @ BSU the following week at 9:00 am pacific (WTF?). That’s an odd and challenging three game stretch.

      Overall, I think Purdue and Cal are more winnable than you suggest. I think 7-9 wins is very possible. New coaching staff gaffes drop them to 6? Possible too.

      With all of the transfers and changes in coaching in the college football landscape, the schedule strength is difficult to compare to past years. Most of the PAC schools that moved to B10 and B12 are ranked by some in the same range as most of OSU’s 2024 scheduled opponents. Imagine playing UW without DeBoer & Penix, UCLA has fallen pretty far…USC still very dependent on a star QB approach and no demonstrable D….Stanford doesn’t look special…ASU?… UA would probably challenging again even with a coaching change.

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    Judging from pictures I’ve seen, Bray is a cap and longsleeve workout shirt kind of guy – not a visor and polo type. I consider that a plus.

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    Interesting note on the Comcast thing with the BTN.

    FOX and ESPN make money off carriage fees on Comcast. So if they are in $70M houses (as of last year), they get 70M x $10 (round number, but might be correct for at least ESPN). It’s pretty obvious subscriptions aren’t going to pay all the bills. So they’re really relying on ad buys (minus operations) to make their profit.

    Many who are aligned with the B1G are saying things like, “Now is the time to cut the cord,” even if they really mean just tie yourself to a different cord. But in doing so, they hasten the demise of cable, which gives them marginal revenues, as long as it’s healthy.

    So with every lost cable subscription, FOX and ESPN lose money. ESPN is already on record for going to streaming, once cable drops below 50M subs. That was projected to be in 2027, if not before.

    How are FOX and ESPN going to manage this, especially if their recent attempt at a streaming platform cartel is shot down by law (which it should be)?

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      Fortunately for FOXESPN they only have to pay ucks and huskies half of a share apiece. The main thing I’m seeing is that when the business side doesn’t pencil you just ask uncle Phil to make up the difference.

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    I’m not liking the large amount of tickets that still appear to be available for most of the home games right now. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, part of getting taken seriously nationally for a small program like ours is to have very heavy fan support. Our stadium only sits 35,000 and there’s 6-7 home games a year. The stadium should be getting packed full at that size for every game. It doesn’t help either that with the renovations, a good chunk of the people who are in attendance just hang out in the concourse making it look even more empty for the national viewers. It shouldn’t be this hard to pack a tiny stadium for a program that has had as much success as this the past few years. Our players deserve a loud, packed house, and the program needs to be projecting a strong fanbase to the national media.

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      Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle. I’ve always had the feeling that the above post-submitter is the alter ego of someone else

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      In the US, there are 261 football programs (FBS & FCS combined) that play in Division 1 across a total of 25 conferences, until the most recent consolidation.

      Getting “taken seriously” by national media, which traditionally only covers the perennial top 25 with only slightly more depth than the rest, involves a vast number of factors that outweigh the half-dozen home games each season, that may or may not be televised nationally.

      Having a full stadium each game is good for vibes and morale during those moments when it matters.

      It’s a mediocre point to raise in light of that; if you’re genuinely passionate over the football team, seek volunteer opportunities, where the effort will have clear benefit.

    • “It doesn’t help either that with the renovations, a good chunk of the people who are in attendance just hang out in the concourse making it look even more empty for the national viewers.”

      So sell 2,000 overflow/standing room only tix?

      How about seat delivery of food? That would be cool!

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    Damn, it’s my mother-in-law’s birthday party on Saturday, it better the hell be over by 3 pm, so I can watch the game. Yes, my priorities are whack, but we already had a dinner celebration last Thursday, this one is for the out-of-town family members.

    • I think the game starts at 2:00? – and you know those family get-togethers always run longer than advertised. I’d come down with ‘something’ prior to Saturday and graciously back out on this – in order to keep everyone healthy, of course!

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    They better not wear black uni’s, 100f on Saturday, thought we were done with the heat. They also should switch sides and stand in shade.

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      i bought tickets last week and looked again this week and ticket prices are about half now compared to what i spent at the time on Seatgeek.
      And when I bought those tickets, they were not coming from a previous owner, they’re coming directly from the OSU ticket office.
      Looks like there are quite a few open seats still and they’re super cheep if anybody is interested in attending a game in person.
      Bring your kids and their friends, maybe you’ll make some new Beaver fans.

      BTW, since I know StudentBeaver is curious, ticket prices in Autzen on Seatgeek are in a similar price range. They’re calling it a sellout, but it’s not a sellout when the ticket office is selling directly through the secondary sites at $6.

    • Three day weekend, HOT, early time slot, no students in town…I’d take the under

      I can’t get there until 4, hopefully it’s not a complete blow out by then. At least I may have a free run at Beaver Street that includes some elbow room.

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        Will studentbeaver complain about the student section not being full again this year… as a student… who should know where the student section is when attending a game… and should know the students aren’t all in town, yet?

  29. Lotsa firsts this weekend:

    “It’s Oregon State’s first game since the demise of the Pac-12 Conference. It’s Gevani McCoy’s first game as the starting quarterback for the Beavers. It’s offensive coordinator Ryan Gunderson and defensive coordinator Keith Heyward’s first game calling plays. And, of course, it’s Bray’s first stab as a head coach.

    A NEW PLAYMAKER
    Virtually every important piece of the 2023 Oregon State offense bolted in the offseason, as the transfer portal, draft and graduation decimated that side of the ball. The most painful departure, of course, was the spring transfer of two-time all-Pac-12 running back Damien Martinez.

    But Gunderson has a wealth of weapons to work with and it will be fun to see who emerges as the Beavers’ new playmakers.

    Jam Griffin and Anthony Hankerson will anchor the backfield. Trent Walker, Darrius Clemons, Jeremiah Noga and Taz Reddicks bring a mix of speed, size and athleticism to the wide receiver room. And Jermaine Terry II headlines a deep crop of tight ends.

    Who will become McCoy’s go-to target? Who will blossom as the Beavers’ next playmaker?

    It’s just another reason to tune in Saturday.

    The Beavers are 16-2 at Reser Stadium over the last three years and their losses have come by a combined five points.”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2024/08/a-new-era-begins-at-oregon-state.html

    • It’s funny that Jeremiah Noga is a starting WR now and Sam Vidlak is nowhere to be found even at the FCS level. They were HS teammates and Sam was the more highly regarded recruit coming out. Noga walked on at OSU and earned a scholarship. Good to see an unranked kid work his way up to a starting spot. He should see alot of activity this year, especially with Valsin injured.

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    Smith’s debut is underway. I’m hoping MSU at least struggles against Florida Atlantic. FAU was just 4-8 last season but only outscored by 19 points with a solid defense. They played Illinois tough losing by six and smoked South Florida. Chiles picked off in his first attempt (the receiver did bobble a wobbly pass).

  31. MSU TD makes it 8-0, so…..what does the card say?………..likely Go For 2?
    JS elects to kick and take a 9-0 lead.
    Won’t matter today but seems a mistake to me.

  32. MSU has played sloppy, but FAU has been bad on offense. Their best play is their QB sliding and MSU hitting him late for a penalty.

  33. Just tuned in to Michigan State-Florida Atlantic, and MSU got stuffed for a 3 or 4 yard loss on 4th & 1 in the Red Zone. Would be funny if not taking the points leads to a loss.

  34. Looks like MSU is going to win 16-10, but looked sloppy and undisciplined at times. The Chiles hype train should slow down after his poor performance tonight.

    • I think a littlw schadenfreude goes a long way, we shouldn’t let it get out of hand.
      Chiles may very well finish his career looking very good; JS, otoh, well, we know his shortcomings and they don’t seem to be going away.

    • Remember, in limited action he looked pretty good. I thought v. UW they did him no favors in that field position with that play calling, and that drive die a quick death.

    • Yes absolutely. He’s a solid runner and puts good zip on his throws. I think he’d thrive in a short passing game offense if that’s what he focused on instead of that 35-yard fade BS Lindgren puts him through.

    • Yes absolutely. He’s a solid runner and puts good zip on his throws. I think he’d thrive in a short passing game offense if that’s what he focused on instead of that 35-yard fade BS Lindgren puts him through.

    • Probably should be tied but tcu mishandled an rpo or something and gave it away after driving like yards in about a minute. TCU probably run away second half but the announcers r saying all of the coaching staff and players r back so it would be improvement from within which I think is cool for Stanford. Coach bray says that’s what he wants at OSU. When a player transfers, goes pro, gets injured or graduates the next guy is ready to fill in like our ILBs who were coached by Bray.

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    Jonathan Smith/Lindgren owe Jack Colletto a good sized chunk of their salary. Guy did so many little things to cover up for Smith’s teams’ poor play. So many 4th down conversions. So many key defensive plays. Smith doesn’t have that type of guy now and it shows with drives ending prematurely because Smith thinks he’s a QB guru

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      I liked how the stupid B10 talking head said “It took Smith four years to turn around Oregon St, he will get it done in two years here at Michigan St.” I would play even money that he never gets it done and is coaching at a lower level program in five years or back as an OC again.

    • And Chiles isn’t off to a good start and that’s not even a big ten defense. It is the first game tho.

      I want to see I highly disciplined and get a big lead and keep it so we can really take a look at a lot of guys.

      • Chiles post game presser took the blame adding “I play football for a living and didn’t perform my best today”

        Play football for a living, that must have been one helluva bag. Keep playing like yesterday he’ll never see another.

        Good on him I guess for taking responsibility for his shitty play but gotta wonder how soon smith will feel pressure to make changes if they don’t play better. He doesn’t have the luxury of Corvallis time anymore.

        • Too early, but he was a little exposed yesterday, No touch on the long ball. Probably a combination of nerves and Lindgren’s play calling. Not even 300 yards of offense. All in all, yesterday showed my Michigan St was picked towards the bottom of the league (14th in one poll I saw).

  36. Just realizing traffic will be awful on I5 today. OSU and Oregon games are only separated by 90 minutes plus the state fair is happening. I guess its good neither school will be selling their game out

  37. Didn’t watch Mich St game but i did a runthru of the recording. Only heard two OSU players names – Chiles and Velling – I’ve forgotten names of other players who went with Smith.

  38. From the more things change the more they stay the same category……….JS after the game “That was probably overly aggressive,” said Smith, adding in hindsight kicking for a two-score lead may have been the wise move. Sparty is in more a long 3 years (or however long Smith lasts).

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