I don't think I've ever made a post calling for Riley's head. Pretty sure I stuck to assistants, and wrote Riley should retire. But that's it, I've seen enough.
Yet another telecaster calls him out on National TV. People can blame lack of talent all they want, but what I just saw is a coach with no clue.
1. Butchery of timeouts.
2. Butchery of challenges.
3. Butchery of clock management.
4. Down by 18 points, no hurry up offense–Riley let the 3rd quarter expire without getting off a play.
Forget chess, strategy, tactics, and all the fancy x/o stuff. He failed the prerequisite: coaching 101.
At the game. I’m so fing mad right now. Our players are giving all they have and our coach is an inept pussy and none of these stupid fans even care.
This just reminded me: we need to make angrybeav t-shirts so guys like you can wear them up there and raise hell. Wake up the geriatrics.
It is maddening. Plus they refuse to ever show the replay on what may have been a bad call.
Have to be polite to the refs and keep up the “family atmosphere” charade! It’s more important to be known as “nice fans” by the opposition than arouse the fan base or win the game.
they didnt show the replay because owusu appeared to be critically injured. not saying i agree with the logic when i assume (dont know because i was there too) everybody watching on tv got to see it over and over again, but i cant really fault whoever makes those decisions for not showing it because it wouldve incited such a reaction. its possible that theres some sort of protocol for not showing replays of plays where a player gets injured, especially if hes still down on the field.
I’m fine with them not showing a reply while Owusu is laying there being put on a stretcher but the “holding” call on Wheaton wasn’t shown or the “catch” by Whalen or even the third and one where it appeared that Stanford was stuffed at the line and the refs spotted and gave them a first down. These were all questionable calls that were not replayed by the stadium staff.
make mine an xl just tell me how much itll cost
Talent to win today, with the coaching to lose.
It’s not just today. He’s been horrible at timeouts/challenges/clock management his entire career.
Question: Not rhetorical – could a player have called time-out on his own?
QB, for sure? I don’t know about another position
I believe so. Players sometimes get caught up in the game and just wanna get up and run a play. The coach is supposed to be level headed and make smart decisions. Calling timeouts in that situation are 100% on the coaches. I’m sure he will blame Mannion though.
And, as nearly as I could tell, he did or close to it.
Yes.
(but they look to the coach/it’s not their job)
This is just agony to watch. I can’t take it anymore. An AWESOME effort being wasted by a Stooge at the wheel.
It is seriously time for Riley to go. I’ve been wanting him gone for a long time. He just doesn’t get it. Andy Reid thinks he has bad clock management. Really looking forward to him blaming Mannion for the bad clock management and taking no responsibility. He’s just embarrassing.
Riley doesn’t have the fire anymore(one outburst per season isn’t enough) and doesn’t have the guts to make big changes where they are needed(OC, at the very least, should be fired). Those are signs that a coach is not up to the job anymore.
And where is the creativity? You can tell Riley/Langsdorf were pro coaches, because they never do anything unexpected. Just pro set, continually, and obvious pass/runs.
1st down, run up the middle. SHOCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He delegates everything else, why not clock management/ time outs?
Creativity? WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT< RUN IT UP THE MIDDLE
Who the hell is 23? And why was he in?
JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perfect pass by Mannion, but I was scared anyway.
I felt the same. I was sure Joe would drop it.
Riley should challenge.
Look at the weather. Why can’t we sell that to recruits? Angry has said it before, it takes real men to play in “Bad” weather like this. Stanford looks like it wants to be inside sipping some coco. Badasses are forged in this environment, not sunny in the high 70s.
How much is the buyout?
I feel the offensive line coach escapes all criticism. It is his line that cannot protect and cannot open holes for anyone. The offensive line is the reason Quizz left. He should be mentioned with Riley and the OCs.
No kidding.
I agree the O-line has been terrible this year. But I think a decent part of the reason the run game struggles is the lack of an explosive runner. Agnew has a burst in space but doesn’t break many tackles and is often brought down by arm tackles. Ward has similar problems.
God, why does OS football have to be such a nightmare with coaching and administration. Jesus, I just want to fire them all… but I can’t sadly.
Riley and his staff are fast approaching worst coaching staff in Div 1 (FBS) Football!
They don’t fool anyone anymore. It isn’t going to get better with these chumps in charge.
CLEAN HOUSE!
This loss is still not enough to make the casual fans revolt. They are THAT stupid. I think the best thing that could happen at this point is for us to get rolled by our remaining opponents. Especially the Ducks…since it seems beating the Ducks is all they are interested in…when in reality if we beat the Ducks it means we actually took a step forward in ingenuity and talent.
Sometimes you need to cut off the arm to save the body. I am not rooting against the Beavers or the players when I hope we get killed – I’m rooting against Riley. He is past his prime and only a Rose Bowl win or better will prove me otherwise.
Just back from Reser. Frustrating. As noted, the players, for the most part, played their hearts out. Meanwhile, the coaches managed the game badly.
Realistically, Riley will not be fired after this season. Still, after a 2-10 or 3-9 season, some sort of human sacrifice will need to be made.
Here’s hoping that the first to go is Banker. With luck, Langsdorf will be fired or demoted too. If we can get some young hotshots from successful programs to fill the DC and OC positions, that would make me feel a lot better about the future of the OSU football program.
Has Riley been hired, specifically, as head coach and only as head coach? I wonder if there is a legal way he could be demoted to something else within the coaching staff or even the athletic department. Create a new, meaningless position. I realize money is a major problem but, if nothing else, perhaps he would feel humiliated enough to resign.
2 weeks in a row of no fan questions allowed on the Beaver post game show. BDC knows this thing is getting really ugly and is running it like a Gulag now. Pretty damn pathetic. Now all we have is the same Beaver paid talking heads talking about hope and ‘in a few more years’ how they see potential.
This offseason is a golden chance to get Mike Leach. he isn’t expected to be aggressively pursued by Arizona but said that it as a Pac-12 job is an ‘exciting’ one for the right guy. He sees the Pac-12 as a great conference to prove yourself. He could be had for the same 1.5 million we pay Riley for sure. We could probably even pay him 1.3 million in year 1 and scale it for 8 or more wins. He isn’t afraid of expectations.
I am 99.999999% confident we lose lose every Civil War as long as we keep Riley. With Leach I think we would relish going head-to-head against Chip Kelly as much as any coach in college football. We would win a Civil War with him in a few short years and contend in all of them. He won’t be content with being down 20.
If Riley goes 4-8 next year (I don’t even think he will win that much) and we then get rid of him it won’t be as much of a rare opportunity to improve the program if a great coach isn’t available. This is our golden chance to be something special and exciting and nationally relevant over night like we were with the Erickson hire. Riley still has a small amount of self-respect left so he shoudl retire for a 2.5 million nuyout and take a year or two off and see if he has the desire to even coach anywhere again.
But OSU would be in excellent hands and we can sign Leach to a 6 year deal. That is the perfect length and we will make damn sure this time that we don’t give any extra year extensions for less than 8 wins. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Leach quickly took our receivers and defense and instilled a whole new attitude in them and got atleast wins in 4 or more of the 6 seasons. My firm belief is Riley won’t make 8 wins in the next 6 years. I don’t see him ever doing better than a Kraft Hunger bowl again for the Beavs.
Leach would turn SU back into a winner in Year 1. Igt doesn’t take 15 years. It takes the right coach with confidence to win every week and one that will win in September instead of waiting for half the season to be wasted away. Leach would love the chance to be a true and full rival to UO. Riley never will.
Supposed to read Leach would get 8 or more wins in 4 or more of the 6 seasons.
And turn OSU into a winner in Year 1.
Leach vs Kelly would be entertaining
Media would despise both lol
Big trouble at Penn State. AD may get jail time if charges are correct.
“I wanted us to get the (first down) play off faster,’’ said OSU coach Mike Riley, who didn’t apologize for not immediately calling the timeout that fans were screaming for.
What a bitch.
OSU doormats should be selling briskly.
No new coach can help that O-line. Better bring in a couple of juco’s that can play or things are not going to get better up front. As poor as this group has played for 2 years it is plain that the depth is not there or changes would be made. 33 yards rushing? You would think that they would get better just from being embarrased.
Amen
If you look at the ESPN comments on the game, we are a joke. We are called “a glorified highschool team”, “bottom dwellers of the pack”, “worse team than the Buffaloes”
Fire Mike Riley.
I feel like a fan without a team. I am lately watching games and just rooting for the underdog. I actually was pulling for SC against Stanford. All the talk of coaching changes is pie in the sky. Riley isn’t going anywhere, and he isn’t apologetic about that. BDC is going to ride out the remainder of his contract. Now two weeks in a row, major mistakes by the coaches. I think if you could take the knowledge and enthusiasm from this site and build a coach, we would be second to none. But that is just more pie in the sky.
I think if you could take the knowledge and enthusiasm from this site and build a coach, we would be second to none.
Nice thought.
It would be like a Voltron coach.
Someone should start documenting Riley’s coaching 101 gaffs in a spreadsheet. I’m too lazy to do it. But, it would be great ammo when going up against the apologists. There are still plenty of them out there saying this loss is due to inexperience.
Alabama’s stadium and Crimsonettes are unbelievable.
What we need is a better plan to get through to either BDC, or someone higher up. It’s nice to create a groundswell to support the idea of changes, but now it needs to go to the next phase, whatever that is. Letters, occupying, lots of bad media coverage, whatever it is.
Is BDC untouchable or something? I would hope some member of the media gets access to him at the end of the season and asks “what the hell has happened to the football program, who’s accountable and what are you doing about it”?
the whole time out thing was truly shocking. it was like watching a friend drop kick my dog then tell me its ok because he knows what hes doing. im also beginning to feel like banker takes some sick sadistic pleasure in seeing rashaad reynolds try to cover pac 12 receivers one on one.
The big donors are the ones who have to get behind the coaching change mantra. It’s just like politics – follow the money, you will then know what motivates the politician. If you want to know who motives BDC, follow the money as well. Who ARE the big donors to OSU? There’s probably a handful, and they are the ones who have to stand up and say enough is enough. When that happens, shit will hit the fan and change will follow.
So much for Washington beating the Ducks. 7-0 right off the bat.
Ducks could wind up in the title game again.
And playing ucla
I mean the national title game.
If Ok State loses tonight I think the Ducks become a favorite. They’ll jump Boise St and probably Oklahoma (after they beat Stanford)
Oh, I’m a beaver fan, don’t think of such things!
Riley said that, at the end of the first half, he wanted to get the play off faster but there was a miscommunication.
The miscommunication was in your brain. Two timeouts and 17 seconds left with a running clock, you CALL A TIMEOUT! What possible reason is there for trying to run a play?
Wasn’t it a “miscommunication” that caused the missed FG vs Sac State? Excuses excuses…
All Riley has at this point. Excuses, and blame for the players.
IMO, Riley doesn’t believe the team has any talent – particularly after all the injuries. He doesn’t have any expectations and it shows.How the hell can he recruit? He doesn’t have a good W-L record and displays little enthusiasm except for whatever humors him on the sidelines.
Riley can’t get the attention of one of the referees on his own and call the TO? Maybe it’s time for Mike to go up in the booth like his hero Joe Pa if the sideline “stuff” has become too confusing for him.
And the greatest game in history ends 9-6. Wow. The SEC is so awesome!!!
/sarcasm
The ESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! The greatest football conference in football history.
That was a great game! Either team would beat any opponent to a pulp in the title game.
I like Miles. He seems to have fun with the whole thing. Alabama kicker should ask to go into the witness protection program.
That was hardly a great game. Awful QB play.
I’ll take him over Romaine any day:)
Terrible game. Great defenses yes. But the offenses can’t find their way out of a paper bag.
not really, more of a case of great defense beating good offense. look at what theyve done in their other games
Their terrible offense will score enough against a D that doesn’t have Sunday talent up and down the two deep. Have you forgotten the Duck game already? Those were two hard hitting teams. If they played with PAC-12 zebras, every play would have been a personal foul penalty.
LOL!
I really dislike Neuheisel but last year after Stanford shut out UCLA adding yet another loss to their season he stayed after the game and addressed the remaining fans:
“I realize how difficult this is to watch…. We’ll get better. That’s the only thing I can tell you.”
Notice no blame pointed at young players, injuries, and on and on.
Love watching Bill Snyder coach. I needed that after watching Riley all day. I feel like they’re similar, only Snyder adapts (even at age 72) and maximizes his players. A physically limited team that plays smart and inspired. It’s nice to see.
I agree. He had some really poor play calling that hurt at the end but still, they were close to taking the #3 rated team in the country to overtime on the road. That is impressive stuff. I love Bill Snyder as a coach. Never completely appreciated. Incredibly underrated.
I love watching Kyle Whittingham, no offense, so the special teams go out and block two punts against a team that has not had a punt blocked all year and it gives them the momentum to win the game.
Anybody know what the start time for the UW game?
12:30 is the early report.
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The Beavers played very hard and got some really bad calls to go against them, including the hold on Murphy and the no hold on the Wheaton drop in the first part of the game. Unfortunately the better team won in the end. The defensive scheme was correct this time but defensive ends could not get off their blocks to turn things in and linebackers are not strong enough, tough enough or fast enough to make plays going forward. Offensively you guys are right. There was no excuse for the head coach not calling a timeout to save time in the first half. And the punt after the int was absolutely gutless. Uninspired leadership let these kids down.
Again, no halftime adjustments on D
What do you mean again? This is the first game I can ever remember there not being halftime adjustments with the Beavers terrific staff.
I guess its pretty tough going into the locker room after you just threw away a great chance for some points. No time to scheme gotta think of excuses
Haha!
Washington within 7 at 24-17 in the third. If their defense can do anything they got a shot. Their offense has got it rolling now.
I think Oregon is the second best team in NCAA. If I’m Les Miles, I’d rather face anyone else in the title game. Oregon is frightening.
Disagree. No way they’re the second best. Not even close. Next week they will lose and that discussion will end.
Didn’t we have this conversation 3 weeks ago when you told me a handful of teams (Wisconsin, K-State, Oklahoma, etc) ahead of Oregon wouldn’t lose?
Oregon 45, Stanford 20. If Stanford wins that game I’ll give a public apology.
I don’t know I really think Stanford has a good shot at Oregon. Oregon struggles against teams that are big and physical and that’s how Stanford plays. I’m not saying Stanford is as physical as LSU, but I think they’re certainly the most physical team in the conference this year and it’ll be interesting to see how Oregon does against them. Personally I’d much rather have Stanford win the inaugural Pac 12 North and not have to worry about Oregon winning a National Championship. I don’t think I could bear listening to them talk about that for decades…
I haven’t been impressed with Stanford this year. Their schedule is atrocious, and they barely beat the only good team (USC) they’ve played. I’d say USC has a better shot at them than Stanford, but I just can’t see them losing another game.
Wow I didn’t realize they still play USC too. If they win out their last three games they definitely have a good shot at jumping over some teams and getting into the NCG.
The only team they won’t jump is Oklahoma State. Arkansas will lose to LSU, so they’re out. Boise State? I don’t see them ever getting a shot…and rightfully so. Oregon’s one loss coming versus #1 will help them jump, too. If Ok. State loses 1 game and Oregon wins the next three they’ll be in the title game.
I think Oklahoma will pull the win over Okie State in the final week, giving Oregon #2 ranking. Frankly, I don’t see Stanford beating Oregon, sure their physical but with size comes sluggishness. Oregon will work the outside on Stanford and beat them 42 – 31
Agreed, Gman. Oregon’s speed impresses me much more than Stanford’s size. They’ll be close at the half, but Oregon will wear them out in the third and forth quarters. If Stanford had Harbaugh, maybe. I’m not sold on Shaw at all.
Washington played well tonight, and they still got doubled up.
USC is a bigger threat. They have big/fast players and skill all over on offense. Kelly is a much better coach than Kiffin, though, so he’ll figure out how to go woodshed-postal on them.
All this being said, Oregon looked better last year. At times they’ve looked bad. But, in the end they always get it done and then some.
Why would they put Oregon in the title game for a rematch?
By that logic, it should be Alabama since they played LSU much more closely.
Agreed. Nikegon got thumped by the #1 team. Bama can blame its kicker for the loss.
It’s kind of bizarre how bad Oklahoma State is on defense. Kansas State is not a sophisticated offense and they went up and down the field all night. If OK St. is able to win out with their offense, I would think LSU would crush them in ways unknown to mankind and make for a boring championship game. It looks to me like the Ducks defense is getting better, so I would think it would make for a better game, but my money would still be on LSU.
K-State has that mobile QB. It shows once again how much an advantage that is. It’s essentially a 12 vs 11 game. Snyder used him nicely.
LSU should win the NC no matter who they play. They have a NFL defense. Ducks defense is way better than advertised. It’s been that way for years…bend/don’t break, aggressive, get timely turnovers.
Yes Stanford is a tough physical team much like LSU or Bama but where the diffrence is the speed that those two schools have. That is why a team like LSU and Auburn can slow the Ducks down- they have the speed at LB and DB to play with UO. The tree doesn’t have the speed on D but they have a shot against the ducks if they control the ball. They should be able to run the ball and mix in some play action with Luck to take some pressure off their D. Where you need to stop the Ducks is in the 3rd quarter- it is obvious that they stay with their original game plan throughout the 1st half and make the needed adjustments during half. Then they come out and just “fast break” your ass into the ground. What they did to the Huskies last night in the 3rd was total domination for the quarter- it puts so much pressure on not only the D but also the O to answer because everyone knows they are going to score again. If they need him to do it Luck will throw for 350 yards but that only means that Stanford is in a shootout with the ducks and that is not their game and they will lose. Ducks are down right scary and I fear the civil war will be very ugly.
Perfect analysis. You are a wise football watcher. Agree 100% waggle.
are you forgetting they beat their ass this year?
Taylor Kavanaugh’s younger brother managed to beat our friends Sacremento St. today 29-20 and was coached by an ex-OSU assistant. I’m glad the Vikings weren’t on the Beavers schedule this year! And btw, that FCS powerhouse Sac St. is now 3-6!
Go Vikings!
PS. Don’t know if the Ryan Katz/PSU is just internet rumor, but Connor Kavanaugh is a Senior.
Katz can’t run the pistol. He should transfer to Montana or montana state.
He should stay. No way Mannion does not get hurt with the lousy O-line play and his concrete overshoes foot speed. The Katz has a least one of his nine lives left.
If I was Katz, I would not wait for that to happen. I was looking at some recruiting stuff, before his wrist injury and he was at least in the top 20 of NFL prospects at QB. Granted, I am sure his stock is in free fall now, but he needs to get some playing time somewhere. Why would he want to stay and play for his current batch of coaches anyway? And who says he can’t learn the pistol and that an offense can’t pass out of the pistol?
I don’t think he could get on at Montana State – the Bobcats have a terrific quarterback. And a delicate reminder: MSU defeated Sac State 31-21. Against Weber State yesterday, MSU was down – had had a horrible first half and went on to win by 20 points. To quote Rob Ash, their coach, in the second half,”we took care of those issues.” Adjustments – imagine that!
Simply put: We suck! Nothing good to say about OSU now. Good night, I am pissed!
Agree.
I smell a petition
No, I just ripped one. Sorry!. Forgot to take some Beano before eating the chili.
You are dead right about Riley needing to be fired Angry.
Here is some more I found from firemikeriley.com,
Has Mike Riley given up? Is he purposely quitting on the team because the administration lacks the ability to hold him accountable for his actions on and off the field?
I think he has. His actions yesterday again prove yes.
1. The entire stadium was screaming time out at the end of the first half as the chains moved forward and the scoreboard read 21 seconds. No Time out. The only thing stopping the clock was Remmers and his consistent false start. Riley’s response, “I wanted to get the play off quicker.” Well, no shit. But you had timeouts on the board. Why not use them?
2. Allowing the clock to expire at the end of the 3rd quarter might as well been a white flag being waved from your hands.
3. Sticking up for your players. James Rodgers gets hit out of bounds and Riley does nothing.
4. Poyer again calls fair catch inside the 10. Coaching!
This isn’t rocket science yet Riley makes it so hard. He paces the sidelines with a look on his face of being over medicated or not wanting to be there.
I am convinced he wants to be fired. He is testing the system. His actions are a direct taunt. He is showing off to the other coaches in the Pac12 that he is untouchable. I bet he laughs at Mike Stoops thinking, “You fool, you should have gotten a lifetime contract like me.”
The message is clear Mike Riley that you are finished and just plan on coasting through 2019. Shame on you and your coaching staff for taking our money, our hearts, and our souls.
He would earn a smidgen of admiration from me if he DID get fined by the league. I would love for him to say “we reviewed the film and the hit by Poyer was legal and there was no holding on Wheaton, we can’t have this continual inconsistent level of officiating costing us momentum when my team is playing their hearts out”.
Good lord, he can afford the fine, especially living in Corvallis!
How about punting on your opponents 37 yard line in a game you are most likely to lose anyway and your team already has a 2-6 record? Talk about gutless!
No shit. I wanted to toss my shoe through the TV!
Has anyone else noticed Riley always looks like he is absolutely freezing on the sidelines? Bundled up, hat down over his eyes? I was out it in at 8am yesterday, it wasn’t that cold.
It probably doesn’t have anything to do with the weather – he’s hiding.
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“Nothing changes for us,” Riley said of the rest of the season. “We haven’t talked about bowls in a long time.”
Well then…maybe you will be you should be changed out….change is good sometimes.
Garrett Weinreich has committed to Oregon State. Really like that commitment.
Nice,but he supposedly needs work on his technique. Will he get coached up? I only ask because, as we know, OSU doesn’t do details.
Per blitz, Weinrich has committed to OSU.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8swnQ8ZT9rI
He routinely stops his feet and doesn’t really show a mean streak I’d prefer in an OLineman. He’s got good size but looks like most of his blocks are made because of that size and not because of great technique. By the looks of that film he will have trouble with faster Pac 12 defenses.
i see a mean streak/attitude
he gets out on the run block looking to put someone on their ass
He looks solid to me- he stays low and has good feet and works to finish his blocks. He is downfield blocking on many of these clips and is aggresive. Not sure I get the comment about Pac-12 defenses= we do not need him to run a 4.4- his strength and quickness will be worked on from the first day he shows up on campus. Good recruit in my humble opinion. Any info about where he may be strength wise-Bench-Squat and cleans? Hopefully he has a good base physically from where his D-1 training can start.
Nice size, but he wasn’t exactly being recruited by the best in the land. We beat out WSU and Arizona lol.
I don’t know how to feel about Cav. His line is atrocious, this year and last. It’s almost all walk-ons. I feel like those are both his fault. But he also has a ton of good recruits from last year and this year, and Phillips coming back next.
Next season Cav will be under pressure to get it done. There will be unquestionably more talent and ability with the line, if the line isn’t significantly better and struggles again it will be on him.
I don’t trust Cav anymore. I’m tired of hearing about his bear crawls and foul mouth and not seeing any demonstrable player development or toughness. Remmers isn’t any better than he was when he played RT against USC when Quizz went off on national tv. In fact, Remmers may be worse.
In Jackson and Weinrich, OSU finally has the size and length for a pair of bookend tackles. I doubt they’ll be assigned and play those positions, and I know Weinrich is playing OG in the film, but I foresee more strange position assignments from Cav and ineffective line shuffling and combos.
Meant “OT” – my point is, I could see him being moved inside for some reason…
I agree. Phillipp should have been moved to guard a while ago. If Phillipp isn’t at guard next year then we will know Cav is clueless.
Yup.
The other shortcoming Riley had that I was reminded of yesterday, after he reminded us so sharply he cannot manage a clock, apparently thinks he gets to cash in his accumulated timeouts for “Beaver Bucks!” at the OSU Bookstore at the end of the year, was his inability to turn extra bowl practices into effective player development results and team results early the subsequent season.
Despite having an extra month of practice time for Sun Bowl or other, Riley never had kids look any more ready the subsequent year. Nor did his team ever overcome the September Loss Syndrome. So while were frustrated with a losing season, and a bowl-less season, we are reminded Riley could never capitalize on the extra time for the benefit of the program.
After last year’s bowl-less season, and this one, Riley actually may have better recruiting results, but he’ll less player development time before he heads into his ineffective offseason programs. Yet on the recruiting trail he’s still trying to sign receivers instead of prioritizing clear needs at DT, CB, Safety, MLB.
I anticipate better talent, but the same old early season false starts, and I don’t trust the o-line will perform at a consistent, high level until until at least 2013.
The guy simply cannot put it all together or hire coordinators that can. Further, his record is fast trending towards .500, the ultimate in mediocrity and complacency.
I was screaming for Riley to be held accountable for the poor starts years ago and I would get shot down on most of the boards. I was made fun of a couple of years ago by Ted Miller on his ESPN site for suggesting that this was a huge flaw with Riley’s teams. Who knows, there may have been championship talent on some of those teams and poor coaching held them back? But hey it’s OSU, you can’t expect championships, accept your 8-5 and shut up! Riley is the savior.
Now, that the talent has dipped a little we are seeing the free fall. Also, I lean more towards Banker being the problem than Langsdork (though both can go). Someone posted some team stats here that shows the defense in decline over a five year period, who the hell keeps their jobs performing worse each year for five years in a row? Apparently Wall Street CEO’s and Mark Banker. The rise of the spread has gone hand in hand with the decline of Banker’s defenses.
Don’t discount turnover margin either, mediocore teams that don’t turn the ball over are going to win some games, whereas mediocore teams that can’t hold on to the ball are not going to upset anyone. Notice the Beavs aren’t really getting blown out, they are poorly coached and turnover the ball. Before they were poorly coached and didn’t turn over the ball. It’s worth two or three games a year.
I’m not happy with some of the coaching this year, but more than that though right now I am still mad as hell about the officiating in this game that blatantly handed the game to Stanford. These guys need to be suspended. The late hit on Poyer on the return that almost erupted into a full scale brawl until about ten seconds later a flag comes out. Those refs should have looked like the guy in that all state commercial – the ref driving out of town after calling the worst game of his career. Stanford was holding all game long as well. It was egregious and those refs shoul suffer the full consequences. Nothing pisses me off more than crooked refs.
Bigger joke: pac-12 refs or Larry Scott claiming he fixed the pac-12 refs?
Larry Scott fixed the Pac-12 officiating? lol.
I think Collins should have been ejected for the hit on Luck. Now i think he should be suspended for a game… along with the refs from that game.
And did anyone else see James take the fly sweep to the left side with Remmers running out ahead of him… Remmers running past two defenders and to the outside… Remmers not hitting anyone and falling down?
Was anyone doing what I was doing at that point–quietly shaking my head and chuckling?
Yup I saw it, but couldn’t chuckle. Remmers sure is a poster boy for Cav’s no nonsense coaching!
Apparently Remmers was watching how Pankey played linebacker last year and figured out the same principle of running frantically and then randomly fallling down would work for offense as well as it did for defense.
Riley’s true place in the national college coaching landscape,
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm
One of the worst and headed lower.
This is obviously hypothetical as Riley likely will keep his job. But who would you propose take over? Nigel Burton? Mike Leach? And do you think they would even want the job? I hate to say I wouldn’t be surprised if Riley stays and retires 5-6 years from now and Langsdorf is hired as the new coach
Chances are extremely high that Danny Langsdorf won’t be the Offensive Coordinator at OSU after this season. Mike Riley knows it. We all know it.
Leach would be the best man for the job. Should be a no brainer. Riley could try to get an admin job or even the OC job if Leach would let him. Not that Riley really would do much but he could pretend. We would want Leach calling the plays and the shots. But Riley could sit up in the box. Langs will have to hit the D2 circuit or become a 99er on unemployment.
We are getting a lot of good O-line recruits, the line might be talented/exceptional in the upcoming years.
Gonna be LSU vs Alabama in the title game when Stanfraud loses to UO and Okie Lite loses to OU.
Highly doubtful. I think Boise or Oklahoma would be play for the national title. They don’t want two teams from the same conference playing in the championship. OU’s win over Ok St would be enough to put them into the title game. Would have a better overall resume than Oregon despite a loss to Texas Tech.
Oklahoma still has to beat Oklahoma State and Oregon will have to beat Stanford. Sounds like the same assumptions we heard earlier about the Beavers pounding Utah. Let them play first and then we will see. Until then, please lord, find a Beaver lb prospect that can tackle going forward and a safety that doesn’t get beat deep. And find OSU a coach that will challenge officials to do their jobs.
Man, you are not kidding, I was bitchin about this the whole game against Stanford. You can’t just stand there and wait to get run over, they were sitting there waiting to make the tackle already 5 yards down field. They need to fly up the field and take out their legs, thats the difference you see when you watch LSU and Ala, their backers come running up full speed attacking the runners. the one thing I think they did do early in the season was run up or by the ball carrier and don’t make the tackle, so maybe they are now being told to sit back and make sure they wrap up? But by running up on them hopefully you make enough contact to slow the ball carrier down enough for the pursuit to finish them off. Either way it doesn’t make for good disicpline tackling.
Mike Cavanaugh is hyped up because of the amount of OSU Offensive Line players that go on to play in the NFL. Here are the statistics for the past 5 seasons, that indicate either good or bad Offensive Line play. Based on these statistics below, OSU has never really had a “Great” or “Outstanding” Offensive Line. Unless, OSU wants to accept mediocrity or worse every year. If OSU wants to win Pac-12 Championships, they must be in the top 3 in these categories!
Oregon State Rushing Yards:
Year/ Pac-12 Ranking/ Yards Per Game
(2007) (4th) (174.92)
(2008) (6th) (158.08)
(2009) (6th) (139.85)
(2010) (9th) (121.08)
(2011) (12th) (94.33)
Oregon State Sacks Allowed:
Year/ Pac-12 Ranking/ Total Sacks/ Sacks Per Game
(2007) (7th) (32.5) (2.50)
(2008) (3rd) (21) (1.62)
(2009) (8th) (29) (2.23)
(2010) (9th) (35) (3.0)
(2011) (t6th) (18) (2.0)
All of these stats on both sides of the ball point to a five year regression of the program that the media is too lazy to talk about and apparently is acceptable to BDC.
Damn, we need to get Mike Leach, OSU would be lights out good.
Haha, the Deadmau5 beaver fan is first pic on USA Today
http://mediagallery.usatoday.com/College+football+fans+across+the+nation/G2807?csp=ipmpg
Caption doesn’t seem to get the sarcasm of the “dead beaver”.
Asked if he saw any hope for the running game, Riley said they’re working on it.
“Not right now – after watching the game (film),’’ Riley said. “Maybe by Tuesday, I’ll have a little optimism. They were whipping us up front a little bit.’’
I apologize in advance if this was already covered, but did anyone either ask or hear the “excuse” for Riley letting 14 seconds go off the clock after we stopped Stanford on 3rd down right before the FG? Everyone is talking about the SECOND time out eff up, but not that one. Huard on tv commented about it. The clock went from 51 to 37 seconds.
Why even call one at all if you’re gonna wait THAT long lol?
That’s the timeout I was talking about. What is the second timeout?
Oh I see where I messed up. When we got the first down and it went from 21 to 16 seconds and we tried to run a play and Remmers did his “thing” was what I referred to as the “second timeout eff up.”
I guess I should have labeled it the “second clock management screw up” instead since I don’t thing we even called one there.
Its so hard to keep track of all the stupidity that must go on w/ our coaches….sigh
Here’s hoping Penn State LIKES MR and goes after him.
And PLEASE don’t bring reality into my dream state.