02.Oct.2012 Washington State @ Oregon State

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Two computers (Massey and Colley Matrix) have Oregon State ranked 1st in the BCS, just ahead of Oregon. No doubt it has been an amazing start to the season. For those who question pre-season rankings, OSU is a poster child. For those who like neat In-and-Out Burger stories, OSU is the poster child. For those who like the underdog, OSU is the poster child.. You get the point–there is a lot of media around OSU right now. It's good, but also makes me nervous–one slip up and it's all over. No ranking, no attention, back to irrelevance.

For that reason, the Beavs can't let up if they want this story to continue. But to expect a team to bring their A or B effort every weekend isn't realistic. At some point they're just not going to be into a game. This weekend's matchup looks like a possible trap (OSU riding high, WSU low and desperately needing a win, OSU could be thinking about BYU, etc).

I mean, I think the Beavs should win big and will win, but I'm cautious. Seems the Connor Halliday era has started in Pullman. What that means, no idea. I expect him to check down and take what OSU gives. Don't expect their WR Wilson to have a huge day as OSU will key on him. If Halliday insists on getting the ball to him then expect turnovers. WSU has a bad run game, so OSU can stop it without committing too many resources. Again, this should make it tough for Halliday to get much going. Only question for me is whether the Beavs are up for this game and ready to give the effort to beat an opponent there isn't much glamor in beating. It takes a workaday, disciplined mentality to win these types of games. You don't just show up and blow WSU out; you chip away slowly and wait for them to break.

I expect the OSU offense to have some fun. The Cougs hung with the Ducks for a half, somehow…but the Beavs have two NFL WRs, an NFL QB, and a couple NFL linemen–that is going to be hard for a lower rung college D to defend.

Curious to see if this game will sell out (bad opponent might keep people at home, but fans really should get out there and support OSU when they give effort and do things right). Curious to see if the Beavs sure up their flaws (safety play, kicking game, kick returns).

The Beavs need a blowout on their resume. This is that opportunity. Seriously, though, how often to the Beavs blowout opponents they're supposed to? Doesn't really happen. The Cougs might not be good, but they give effort and are trying to buy into the new system. This would be a big win for that program, so they're going to give their best, no doubt about that. Turnovers are the neutralizer, if the Beavs hang on to the ball they win big. If not, I don't even want to think about Sunday…

Beavs 31, Cougs 17

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  • Bob says:
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    Another great practice today. The fall weather is amazing and should hold for Saturday. Mike Riley was very much engaged today, doing some in the huddle and at the line one on one coaching with the offense. The team seems loose and confident. We are going to do just fine Saturday, and I’ll get in, even though I’m reduced to buying my tickets off one of the street scalpers outside.

  • whatever says:
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    “how often to the Beavs blowout opponents they’re supposed to? Doesn’t really happen.”

    We blow teams out when we’re good. We sucked the last 2 years, and we had 4 blowout wins over that period. We averaged 4 1/3 blowouts per year the three years prior to that.

    2011
    Washington State: 44-21
    Washington: 38-21

    2010
    Cal: 35-7
    USC: 36-7

    2009: 4 blowout wins
    2008: 4 blowout wins
    2007: 5 blowout wins

    • angry angry says:
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      Whatever, indeed.
      I said “when they should”
      You really think they’re expected to blowout Cal and USC? Also, I don’t consider a 17 point win a blowout. Scratch Washington off that list.

      • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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        I agree a blowout should be 21+ with most/all of the other teams points coming during “garbage” time.

      • wannabeav says:
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        concur. I think you need to win by at least 25 to be considered a blow-out, at a minimum. Maybe as much as 33.

        • Jack says:
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          I’d say a full three scores (>24) is probably a good mark. Arguments can be made for 20+ depending on the feel of the game, like when USC beat us 23-0 in LA. I wouldn’t say it was a blowout just by looking at the score, but it really was. 16 or 17-0 not so much

      • whatever says:
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        You’re arguing against yourself. By your estimation, we SHOULD have blown out 1 team in the last 2 years and we did do just that.

        As I correctly asserted, we blow out teams when we’re good. Exhibits A, B and C: 2007-2009.

        • Jack says:
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          Three games “should” have been blowouts on paper: 2010 – PSU, Wazzu, 2011 – Sac St.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    The should be sold out. All 6,000 student tickets went so fast they released 1,100 more to meet demand. Last I heard there were fewer than 500 tickets left for sale. I will be at the game. Section 11, Row 64!

    As for your write up Angry, I agree with everything you said. It has the makings of a trap, let’s hope that doesn’t happen.

  • Jack says:
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    Already sold out. Wazzu sell-backs were released this morning and gone by 10am. Just a couple hundred left on StubHub.

    • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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      It’s going to be a loud, fun game. I can’t wait!

    • angry angry says:
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      Nice

    • Bob says:
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      If you gut it out, at the last-minute you can always gets seats, even for sold out games, for pretty cheap from the street corner dealers as they try to unload the last of their inventory. Of course it’s risky if you’re a group, or if you have to drive a ways to get to Corvallis. There is a certain comfort in having tickets in hand, especially to big games like this one, but pedaling around the stadium bargaining with the scalpers until you find the perfect deal is kind of fun.

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      I think a lot of people used the Nicholls St ticket exchange to get more tickets to this game, that’s what I did.
      Plus, from my experience there are a lot of WSU people living in NW Oregon so the turnout is usually quite high.

  • numbers says:
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    I feel like Cinderella. We are about to be the belle of the ball, but we can talk about it cause ugly step sister smacked us around for 3 years. Now we are afraid to show our glee in our fairytale season. It’s ok, ugly step sister doesn’t realize she’s keeping us grounded so that we can ultimately win the day. One at a time, with unprecedented fight and determination. That’s what its going to take.

  • tim318 says:
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    Don’t underestimate that this is the first home game since students are back. That will be a big emotional boost. That said, must control the emotions and channel into execution.

    I’ll be there – probably my one game of the year.

    Expect a strong WSU fan turnout.

  • Mud&Sticks Mud&Sticks says:
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    “…Two computers (Massey and Colley Matrix) have Oregon State ranked 1st in the BCS, just ahead of Oregon….”

    While I don’t believe the Beavs are better than the ‘ucks I’m having fun thinking about how that’s going over in Spewgene.

    Might as well enjoy it while I can.

    • Jack says:
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      If we had played Nicholls State, we wouldn’t be there even at 4-0. And even with a win against Wazzu, we likely won’t be there after this weekend. It’s all about performance versus SOS with those indeces. They’re more like an RPI than a poll.

      • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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        I don’t discount what you say, but it is interesting considering the only team the yucks have played that amount to anything was the cats, at home btw.

        I hardly consider one road game against wazzu, az and three ultra-soft home games including Fresno St, western tennessee beauty college and central arkansas cc stiff competition/high RPI generators.

        • Jack says:
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          I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue. Nikegon has a weak SOS but has performed well. Both are accounted in these matrices, and the weak SOS dings their standing within both.

          Narrow margins of victory on the road against other teams who also have higher values in these matrices are better than blowouts at home against patsies.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    I think the BYU game should be more of a concern about the Beavs playing flat, with it being away and a non-conference game. They’re going to want to give the fans a show against the Cougs.

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      Also, it’s early, throws off bio-rhythms, increasing flatness risk.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    I really hope you’re wrong about the players possibly looking ahead to the BYU game. This game is more important considering BYU is non-league. There is no good reason to be looking ahead to BYU. I think the players understand the importance of focusing on WSU and getting another league win this week.

  • Quatre Quatre says:
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    I’m actually attending this game, one of two games for this season that I didn’t give away my tickets. It’s much tougher to make the six hour drive when you have the Pac-12 network showing everything you want in your living room.

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      Where are you driving from? 6 hours is a little rough.

  • Beavocalypse says:
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    Go Beavs! I might seem overly critical during the game but I don’t like it when these guys mess with my heart rate. It makes me moody but if we can dominate a team we should dominate when we have this much momentum will make me believe we aren’t pretenders.

  • matt b says:
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    When I read or hear about people expecting blowouts as some kind of sign from the gods that their lives or teams are validated, I picture guys laying about on big pillows eating peeled grapes and being fanned by nubile Egyptian virgins. Close games are fun to watch and build character. It’s competition guys. A good even fight is the best thing that any true fan could hope for. Good hard competition will help these young men learn to compete in the world that has been prissified by our jaded generations. I hope that the OS vs WSU is a slugfest, toe to toe with the Beavs emerging victorious at the end.

    • angry angry says:
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      What are you talking about?
      Why the hell would you want that?

    • uncanny says:
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      Maybe against Stanford, Oregon, or a tough road game. Not a home game against one of the worst teams in the conference.

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      Ya wouldnt it be great for some key players to be injured during a “slugfest” against the worst team in the pac-12?

      Shut up.

      • matt b says:
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        Really. Slugfest is a metafor for highscoring affair. Arizona game was a slugfest where the game went back and forth. Each team throwing out their best shots. Let’s not be so sensitive literal cavemen and understand football terminology in the classic sense. Geeze, slugfest does not equal grind it out. Slugfest means throw haymakers ie bombs. You guys moaned all last year about Oregon boors, fans who were greedy and only satisfied with anhilation of the enemy. Look in the mirror at how the worm has turned

        • uncanny says:
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          I think you’re missing the point slightly. I personally love close games like last weekend. In fact I would say it was my favorite Beaver game of the last few years given the back and forth scoring and the implication of a win. Having said that, it all depends on the competition you’re facing. Arizona was a good team with something to prove after their game against Oregon. Added to that, it was a night game on the road. This game against Wazzu is completely different. They stink so bad Colorado beat them. There is no reason this game shouldn’t be a blowout with our backups getting some time in 4th quarter. That might sound cocky and weird considering what our feelings were at the start of the season but this is what we’re talking about with expectations of a program and a good football team. Beat the other good teams and pound the bad teams into submission. The last couple years we were the bad team getting pounded, now the tides appear to be turning.

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Hey Matt, I usually pretty much agree with you, loved the “portable snot knocker” thing. But, this time I’m not nearly all in with ya.

      For several reasons I go along with what uncanny and Beavsbeavs said above.

      For one thing, the hit on Quiz in 2010 and the need for the Beavs to show the world that they can play aggressive ball for 60 minutes. There are no byes for the rest of the season, I hope Riley will be in position and mood to treat most of the second half as a bye for several of the 1’s.

      Hoping Cody Vaz and Roman Sapolu get some game time.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I want. BLOWOUT with reserves getting pt.

      MattB NOT sippin that beavers juice

      • Krogercomplete says:
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        I don’t even want reserves playing. I want maximum blowout with full throttle the entire game. 🙂

    • whatever says:
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      Top 5 stupidest posts I’ve ever read here.

    • Beavocalypse says:
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      Yes a tight hard won fight with the Cougs would really benefit us in the BCS…you know how the Romans or Egyptians got to sit around? By kicking the shit out of their enemies. I’d love to be like them

  • krogercomplete says:
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    Looks like a sell-out, first home game with the students back, supposed to be 80 degrees and sunny. And let’s not forget, this is only our second freaking home game. I think the place will be rowdy, and the team will be energized, glad to be home finally and riding high off those first three wins. You are absolutely right that this has some of the makings of a trap game, but I have a feeling the team, and the fans, will be ready to ball and hopefully beat the Cougs up pretty bad.

    Fingers crossed . . .

  • angry angry says:
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    Oh, and I’d like to add, in my Christopher Walken voice: no more #13!
    Dude is BRUTAL

    • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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      Speaking of #13 anyone know why Cooks changed from 13 to 7? Just curious.

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        It has something to do with his older brother who was in the NFL and passed away, #7 was his brother’s number. A tribute.

        Speaking of Cooks, I think when he finishes his playing career at OSU he will be the top receiver to have put on the uniform at OSU.

        • uncanny says:
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          It will be tough to top James and Mike Hass but he is well on his way to their level. He probably has more NFL potential then those two did.

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            Yeah it will be tough, this season he is on pace to have a very similar season to James’ best season, he may not be quite the running threat that James was though. There is just something special about his game and his work ethic and his drive to be successful. Plus it will be very nice for him to have Mannion throwing to him his entire career.

          • bone says:
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            Even Wheaton is quietly working his way up the record books in terms of receptions. Got a couple studs a wide out.

  • bone says:
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    Been close to a month since a home game. Hopefully this team has a bad taste in their mouth after the last time wazzu came to town. Should be a fun day. Can’t wait!

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Angry – I’m with you. I have a similar feeling heading into the game with WSU this weekend as I did heading into the Civil War in 2008. Sell-out crowd. Epic tailgating weather. Team ranked in the top 15 and headed for big things. And it all came crashing down. I’ll never forget the feeling I had after that game in 2008.

    I’m hoping the 2012 version is different.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Great to see a sellout once again. But that’s what you get when you win and more. Good news is OSU vs. BYU to be on ABC. If we can keep up the wins, more good things can happen.

      I agree with Jack, blowout is 24+ points over opponent. I believe it is time to really see what Riley can do. We need to practice stacking points and play to win the whole game. Make it like each and every offensive drive is the drive that will win the game.

      WSU controlling Oregon until 3rd quarter was impressive. They were really fighting to win that game. Defense got tired out from the rapid offense ducks played against them. The other reason Oregon raced ahead in the 2nd half is their defensive coach is one of the best at half time adjustments.

      We have some tough games ahead and now is the time to score, score and score. I hope there is no conservative play calling by Riley. That would be a killer.

      35 – 10 Beavers

    • angry angry says:
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      But I’m not saying I think they’re going to lose, just that they need to watch out…game could wind up being an ambush if they have their heads up their asses.

  • PDX Beav says:
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    Also, I cringed everytime #13 was in the game. He’s serviceable against pro-style offenses (maybe that’s being nice). Against spread offenses, it’s not pretty. I’d rather have a young guy out there that’s able to get to spots quicker than watch #13 flail at tackles against the WR screens.

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      agreed Robinson looked pretty bad at there. I had a nightmare that Pankey and Roberson found out they had another year of eligibility and Banker had them starting. It was terrifying.

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      he needs to be moved into the DE rotation. At the pace of today’s game it’s the only logical alternative

  • presleydog says:
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    I’m hoping to see Cody Vaz by late third quarter throwing to Obum Gwatcham.

  • BeaverJuice says:
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    I hope for a blow out, but not for perception or confidence or any other intangible. I want to see our starters get some rest – it’s a long season and they’ll need it, and experience for the backups can’t hurt.

  • OStateBro says:
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    Key to this game is defensive line getting pressure on Halliday. If OSU is able to get five or six sacks, it’s a guaranteed OSU victory. Our offense will score points so it’s just a matter of stopping the WSU passing game. It’s hard for a QB to complete passes when he’s on his back, even if they are wide open. And heavy pressure throughout the game will rattle a young QB, especially after he got beat up against UO last weekend.

    Sacks/QB Pressure = OSU Win.

  • Rick says:
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    You’re talking like, if we lose a couple of games for the rest of the season, we’re done. Back to obscurity. I think there’s a happy medium in there somewhere.

    • Max says:
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      Happy medium? No, not in college football. If you aren’t in a BCS bowl no one really cares about you. When’s the last time you thought about Georgia Tech or Missouri? Solid programs but no one outside of Georgia or Missouri cares about them unless they are undefeated.

      • Rick says:
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        You know, a year ago, we were hoping just to get to a bowl game. Although we do want a BCS berth, it’s not a total loss if we don’t get there. That’s the problem with this blog: The sky is always falling.

        • angry angry says:
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          A year ago, nobody here was hoping to just get to a bowl game. Not sure what world you’re living in. Just don’t read the blog if you don’t like it. You clearly don’t comprehend it so two problems solved with one action.

        • krogercomplete says:
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          I think Rick is right that the quick start has significantly raised everyone’s expectations; what exactly everyone “hoped” for a year ago, I’m not sure. My projection was 5-7 wins, and I certainly did “hope” they could make it to a bowl game and would have considered it a success had they done so given the recent history. Things have changed, and while I am trying to stay grouned, I will say my view of what would constitute a successful season is shifting.

          I think Rick is right that unless your team is in a very small minority in college football, you can’t have a binary set of expectations where only a BCS bowl constitutes success and anything shy of that is failure. You’re really setting yourself up for a miserable experience.

          • angry angry says:
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            I’d consider an Alamo Bowl (formerly Holiday) a success since OSU has never played in one. Anything less and it is irrelevant, and to me irrelevancy is tantamount to mediocrity (or worse). That’s not “sky is falling” it’s modern day college football, for better or worse.

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            This year’s Pac-12 bowl affiliations:
            1. Rose Bowl
            2. Alamo Bowl-San Antonio
            3. Holiday Bowl-San Diego
            4. Sun Bowl-El Paso
            5. Vegas Bowl
            6. Kraft Fight Hunger-SF, Calif
            7. New Mexico Bowl

            I think 3rd in the Pac-12 this year would be a huge success, and I’d be happy with a trip to San Diego in December.
            However, ask me again if we make it to the Pac champ game… as we’ve seen, all expectations are subject to change.

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            I would even consider the holiday an improvement. Even though it now is the new sun bowl, the bowl itself has a little more prestige than the sun bowl does. It is also played at a more desirable location and against a better conference.

            Prior to the season I thought getting to a bowl game would be a step in the right direction for the team. But after this start like angry said any less than an Alamo bowl would feel like a let down.

        • Max says:
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          When you mentioned “obscurity” I thought you were referring to national media attention. I could care less about the perceived strength of the PAC-12, I root against almost every PAC-12 team other than the Beavers. Although I do think the attention this team is getting is important for the program and its fans.

          You’re right, it’s not BCS game or bust for the Beavers every year, although that should be the goal at the start of the season. It’s important to at least be in the discussion at some point during the season however.

  • Hellobeavers says:
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    This talk of a “trap game” or players “looking ahead” is pretty silly. As long as we keep winning, every game we are favored in will be called a potential “trap game”. If we lose it’s because we get beat and claims that the team was “looking ahead” is just an excuse.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    To mattb,

    Duck fans want a blowout every game against every opponent, no matter the credentials. That’s arrogant and greedy. Angry (as well as many other realistic fans) is asking for one blowout against one of the worst major conference teams in the country at home. What this would do is increase confidence not only with fans and media, but within the team itself. Even more important than that, it would provide an opportunity to rest key players and give them somewhat of a mini bye week during what will be a stretch of 11 straight weeks of football without a bye. A “slugfest” on the road against a pretty good Arizona team is fun and exciting, but at home against a bad Wazzu team? You’d be lying or stupid if you said that wouldn’t concern you.

    Ask yourself these questions:
    Do you want a freshman running back carrying the ball 29+ times for the next 11 weeks?
    Do you want a sophomore QB throwing 45+ times a game for the next 11 weeks?
    Do you want 2 fast but thin receivers getting hit 20 times a game for the next 11 weeks?

    Teams that win BCS games do so because 1. They’re very talented and 2. Because they blowout bad teams and take those opportunities to keep their very talented players fresh. It’s a long season and there will be games where a 38-35 win is something to be excited about, but Wazzu at home is not one of them.

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    Beavers 45-14

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    I’m confident these guys are taking things seriously. Most of them know what 3-9 feels like. I am impressed with their interviews. They are humble and heap praise on their team mates. I remember Derek Anderson and Sean Canfield as sophmores. Canfield was rated worst QB in america. Anderson had his issues. Mannion is playing on par or better than those QB’s as seniors. He certainly is a team leader and appears driven to win. But I agree we need to put the pedal to the metal and give the 2’s some experience. On a side note, has the new trainer helped in not having so many injuries?

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      Mannion is now playing as well continuously (3 game sample) as Anderson did at any one time intermittently. He’s playing as well as Canfield did the back half of his senior season. Moral of that story: we need to be concerned about Mannion playing only 3 years, not four.

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        One of the Pac-12 network commentators after the Arizona game said he thinks Mannion is a future 1st round talent at QB. He’s opening people’s eyes in the Pac-12. Only a matter of time till he starts being talked about more nationally if he keeps it up this season.

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    3-star CB Steven Nelson visiting this weekend. He’s a Georgia commit.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OSU #9 in S-I’s power rankings, even Riley tweeting about beaver juice?

    C’mon Bobby D, get the [black] t-shirts printed up before Friday…..

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    You have to put a stick of dynamite in BDC’s butt before he will do anything creative. He is Elmer Fudd in disguise.

    I hope some part of our teams uniform is black Saturday. They should have worn orange and black against the Badgers. White at home makes the team look like clowns. Black is so much more intimidating IMHO.

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    Regarding all the valid concerns about this team getting lots of attention, losing focus, overlooking the team in front of them, etc. I suspect some effective coaches have the same concern.

    Also, I don’t think we’ve seen the offense’s best game yet. I am still waiting for greater integration of the tight ends. We saw some creativity there last week, I think there’s going to be more opportunities for Smith and Hamlett to exploit the space created by Cooks and Wheaton.

    When Riley has the players, this offense can hum as long as Langsdorf isn’t calling the plays. I suspect OSU is going to have some games where they have significant leads and force the other team’s to play catch up and get more predictable, and I hope the d-line can capitalize on that dynamic.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    20-17 WSU… In my terrible dream last night. Romaine missed 4 FGs and Mannion threw 3 straight incompletes on the final drive.

    I woke up in a cold sweat.

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      Its perfectly normal to have wet dreams about beavers. dont worry about it

    • angry angry says:
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      Dude you are taking this all too seriously deep breaths.

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        You’ve never had a dream where the Beavers lost a game and woke up, upset? You’re not a fan! 😉

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    After rewatching the AZ game, there are a lot of holes in the defense that could be very problematic against WSU. Must play better against all types of WR screens.

    I fully expect the offense to keep chugging along.

    Here are my keys:
    – Establish the run game early and often. Be generous with subbing. Agnew and Ward are looking more and more capable of spelling Woods for a few plays. Woods looked pretty gassed after running for 90 in the first half. It led to the fumble for sure.
    – Get to the QB. The earlier the better. Make the QB get rid of the ball quick for shorter gains.
    – This may sound ridiculous, but stuff WSU’s run game. Force them to the air.
    – Turnovers! Win the turnover battle.
    – Need a huge game from the nickel back and backup CBs. Limit YAC.
    – I imagine Poyer or Reynolds will cover Wilson 1 on 1 no matter where he lines up.
    – And most of all – Do not let up. In all of WSU’s game, they’ve had 2 half let downs. Keep the pressure on and take advantage of their mistakes.

    All in all, a win is expected. However, WSU is not a pushover. I expect the Cougs to do some damage but the Beavs should have the game in hand by the 4th quarter.

    Also, I’m thinking maybe put Robinson as a pass rush DE on 3rd downs if the coaches insist on putting him on the field. Always curious as to why Akuna can’t even make it on the field.

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    I see that the weather is supposed to be nice on Saturday, but what about this freaking wind? In Beaverton right now it is a borderline hurricane.
    These early autumn sunny days do often bring wind down the gorge, does this effect reach the Corvallis valley area? Just having horror flashbacks of Vegas 2009.

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      Wind in Corvallis Saturday is forecast to be around 8 mph. I’m sure lettuce will take this into consideration!

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        A stiff wind might actually help his accuracy, as long as it’s blowing from right to left across the uprights.

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      Weather in Corvallis is calling for high pressure to set in with temps in mid 70’s, wind out of the north/nw 5-10 mph. A great sunny day for a football game.

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      It has been blowing hard in Corvallis all day, although I went into Reser to poke around and it wasn’t bad inside the stadium.

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    Last Week I was in Vegas and My Brother In-Law Gave me a $100 hand shake to gamble with and I put it on the Beavs to win, now I have a $225 of free money and I’m trying to find a game to place it on. The 14.5-15.5 point spread on the OSU game this week makes me nervious. I agree with Angry that we should win but I’m nervious that it maybe closer than expected.

    Any suggestion on bets this week? I was thinking of placing it on UCLA @ Cal. UCLA is only a 2.5 favorite right now. With Cals struggles against the run it seems like the best on the board.

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      I’d take UCLA -2.5.
      I think Arizona +10 is a good bet, too. Very bearish on Stanford, though. Depends how much you like them.

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        Agree on Stanford, I’d like to see Zona prove it on the Road. Granted Palo Alto is a much easier enviroment than Eugene.

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          Palo Alto might as well be an away game. Those nerds just aren’t into football.

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    Conzano is an assclown!

  • beaverbeliver says:
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    And so is Bobby D. Bring back the Black Out!

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      Are you kidding? This is a brilliant move by Rizzardini.

      Before… old codger grumbles about being told to “wear black” on his tickets:
      Who are they to tell me what to wear? I’m not gonna wear black. I am orange! Dagnabit!

      Now:
      What? I’m white, and they’re going to round up all white males and shoot them… because that’s a solid counterpoint in my world. I’ll show them… dagnabit! I’m going to wear black anyways.

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      I was a student in ’07 when they tried the first Blackout and the issues was the Barometer had a front page story telling students to paint their faces black because “Wildcats are scared of black” If you can’t see the racist undertone in that, well I’m sorry.

      I’m not a BDC fan but if that is what your student papper is publishing that, maybe your school isn’t ready for a Blackout.

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        I can’t see any racist undertone in ‘Wildcats are scared of black”. What are you talking about? Seems like you’re trying way to hard to make something out of nothing. Stop that!

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    I have this game for OSU by the same 14 point margin. OSU has the advantage as long as both offense and defense come out fired up and ready to play. Look for Woods to run for 120+ and Wheaton and Cooks to again both surpass 100 yards receiving. As long as Mannion and the team play smart ball control offense that values possession, our defense should have enough juice to limit long Wazzu drives. To win by 14, OSU will need good red zone efficiency as I believe Wazzu could score 20 and keep it close for awhile.

    Oregon State 34, Wazzu 20

    #14 Oregon State vs Wazzu Preview:
    http://beaverbyte.com

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    Can someone tell me the scenarios that could still get the Beavs in the Rose Bowl. Don’t they have to win all to make it to the Pac-12 championship game seeing that Oregon will probably win all until we play them.
    Our remaining games:
    WSU
    Utah
    WU
    ASU
    Sanford
    Cal
    Ucks

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      Whoever (whomever?) has the best conference record in each division plays in the championship game. Tiebreaker goes to the head-to-head game first. So if both Oregon schools win out in conference play then it will come down to the silver war to determine the north division representative.

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      1) win Pac -12 title game and not be selected for national title game
      2) winner of Pac-12 title game is selected for the national title game, be in the top 16 of BCS and hope that Rose Bowl selects us as a at large. This is the option I’ve seen by site picking us to go to the Rose Bowl, Oregon to National Title game, Oregon State to Rose Bowl.

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        If either of those scenarios were to happen, the football Gods would be seriously pissed. I don’t think college football could handle 2 Oregon teams in BCS bowls. I think they’d still find a way to pick the South Division winner for the rose bowl if it means a larger market share.

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        It’s been good to read that the players and coaches are taking the season one-game-at-a-time because you guys certainly aren’t.

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          I just aswered the question, by no means do I think or bet that OSU is going to the Rose Bowl, but you’ll find site out there that have us going (ESPN Pac-12 Blog) I think there might be 1 or 2 loses between now and the rose bowl, the game i’m worried the most about right now is ASU

      • Numbers says:
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        Dude, you gots that backwards. Oregon State to National title, and hopefully Oregon can still get the Rose Bowl.

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      Assuming your given, that Oregon is undefeated going into Civil War, we could suffer as many as one additional conference loss and still get into the Rose Bowl, but we would need a bit of help. At minimum, Oregon would have to get into the national championship game and there could be no non-AQ team in the top 4 of the final BCS rankings.

      If we have 2 losses in conference and have beaten everybody else with 2 losses, we’d probably get in. Whatever team takes the Pac-12 south is nearly guaranteed to end up with 3 losses.

      The biggest competition for backing into the Rose Bowl would be Stanford and Washington.

      Luckily, we play both of them. Win those two games and we’re looking to be in great position.

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        I never knew there were guarantees in football. I’m sure ASU and UCLA would all be quite interested to know that though…

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          Reread please.

          My response was to a poster who said: …Oregon will probably win all until we play them.

          my response stated that IF Oregon goes undefeated, ASU will suffer at least one loss. because they play Oregon. Got it? If Oregon goes undefeated…and Oregon plays ASU…ASU is guaranteed one loss.

          UCLA is guaranteed at least one conference loss because…wait for it…they have one loss currently.

          See how that works?

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            I cued in on the ” whatever team takes the pac12 south is nearly guaranteed to end up with 3 losses.”. And somehow, I just don’t see that happening.

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      LOL … hey, safest thing, just win out….and then we can bitch and moan about not getting in the NC game.

      To me, barring a collapse, we look good for one of the top 3 conference bowls, and to me, this is a really good feeling. What would have been galling would be to just get to, or near, 6-6 and be left still wondering what the future holds.

      As to Rose bowl, title game, whatever …. let the season unfold. Take it one at a time, like the team should.. This is a great ride, so far.

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    What is the face value for tickets on the home side?

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    I was watching the replays and loved the way Cooks gets low behind players downfield. He’s like watching a video game, instead of always using his break away speed. He gets low, cuts and studder steps for extra yards. Kostol has one hell of a leg! I like the 3 man rush, this gives Castro some rest and keeps us fresh. Fafita is a beast this year! I like the CB blitz but against Wilson this weekend I would not suggest it, he is the real deal and probably the best receiver we will face this year.

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    Way OT…
    Coco Crisp comes up for a big AB in the bottom of the fourth with two out, runners on 2nd and 3rd and the A’s down by two. The announcers are all over his scouting report. He’s going to swing at the first pitch. We’ll see if he gets that pitch on the second or third pitch… or even in this AB.

    So Holland goes and throws a weak slider up and out and Crisp slices it down the RF line six inches fair for a double.

    Holland walks the next guy, and Cespedes hits a shallow pop-up to CF… where Hamilton nonchalantly flubs the catch for two more runs.

    Texas doesn’t want this game.

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    Just saw a comment on Olive indicating Isaac is setting out most of the snaps in practice due to a “stinger”, this was posted by a commenter – not a reporter. Bob, Silver, anyone, is this verified?

    Here is the quote, “Issac has got something wrong with his shoulder. I watched practice today and Nelson and Sepalo took 90 % of the snaps. Issac didn’t look right, he was on the sidelines…”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/10/beavers_near_a_sellout_for_was.html

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      Hopefully he’s going to be okay. Beavers can’t afford to lose him.

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      Inaccurate comment about Isaac sitting out. I was at practice today from 11 am – 1 pm. Isaac was a full participant, and looked perfectly healthy. Every snap Mannion took was from Seumalo.

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        Rip City, Dude you are not telling the truth, I was there and your comment in a lie. What’s up with the bullshit?

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      I must have been sitting next to that commentor, because I saw the same thing and wondered about it out loud with some of the other old codgers hanging around practice. The kid is hurting that much is clear, and I didn’t see much of a Storm brewing today either, outside the wind.

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        Thanks, Bob. I was hoping you or silver would be at practice. Can you give any more details on what you saw, the Olive commenter said the backups did 90% of the snaps today and fouled up most of those.

        I called JoeBeaver show last week to ask about Isaac because of the hip soreness which kept him idle the week after Wisc; of course, all Parker could say was that he was practicing then.

        This is a prime reason why I am hoping for a blow out this Saturday which can function as a “1/2 bye” to rest guys like Isaac, sounds like maybe Storm could use a break as well.

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          Old Beav, keep in mind I’m just an old Beav too who’s been around the block and is playing out his string in Corvallis. Here is what I saw. When the offense was running against the scout team, Issac was not in. He was off behind the play with the other substitutes rotating his left shoulder in circles and stretching his neck. There were no trainers working in him, but he looked pretty uncomfortable. When the ones were running plays, it was Nelson and Sapalo rotating in at center. They also did the snaps with the 2’s and 3’s.

          At the very end of practice, the ones ran a series of about 7-8 plays and Issac went in and handled the snaps. He looked fine to me when he was in. That’s what I saw, and I doubt that I am giving away any tactical advantage to WSU by giving a report on AB’s.

          Also, Trent Bray is a fine looking young coach who commands respect on the field. It’s easy to tell the players listen to what he has to say.

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          Here’s Cliff’s notes on the Beavers practice. I tweeted him about Isaac and he responds in his piece as well as a tweet to me.

          http://www.gazettetimes.com/blogs/cliff-kirkpatrick/article_d5206ad4-0e65-11e2-8202-001a4bcf887a.html#.UG4TXXaiHbg.twitter

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    Riley was on the Scott Van Pelt show today

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8457448

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    Maybe it’s in here somewhere, but the Beavs were even in the Wall Street Journal with the In and Out story and then a graph showing the distance between each P-12 school and In and Out burger. Poor Wazzu, last again, over 600 miles away.

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    The start of this video on this page has a great image of Storm Woods emerging from the line and pulling away from a defender:

    http://www.kval.com/sports/No-18-Oregon-State-outlasts-Arizona-38-35-171968461.html

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    For all the great publicity In and Out is receiving, they should donate and deliver their burgers to the Beavers no matter who or where they play. That would be a advertising blitz for In and Out.

    • bone says:
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      maybe change from Reser to In n Out Stadium?

      • Grape says:
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        Something about that wouldn’t sound right with our team name.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Are you kidding………….it would be perfect.

      • Beavers4life says:
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        what about 3-and-out stadium?!

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          How about a sponsorship from a shaving cream company?

          • beavers4life says:
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            Stadiums aren’t “Sponsored” per se, they’re more or less, named after someone who has given back to the university to the point where they get the stadium named after them like Al Reser did. Gill Coliseum is named after famed basketball coach Amory T. “Slats” Gill who compiled a 599-392 record in 36 seasons. The court is named after another famed OSU coach, Ralph Miller, who led the men’s basketball program from 1971 to 1989.

            http://www.reference.com/browse/gill_coliseum

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        Beavers also like a player (playa?) who can go side to side….

        Oh the fun Mike Parker could have: “Well, the Beavers have had their ups and downs today here at In-and-Out Stadium. The South Carolina Gamecocks just won’t go down.”

  • osubaby osubaby says:
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    Pac-12 channel announcers suck!! They can’t get players names right.

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      Especially that Fat Head Idiot and ultra biased announcer from our game last week Glenn Parker. Ex UofA lineman. Clearly did ZERO research about the teams, but didn’t care about anyone but AZ anyways. I also loved how he got booted out of studio, Neuhisel made him look dumb.

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    Man, I hope we go at this game as if we have something to prove. We do, of course…..like showing we can play free of blunders. And the defense needs to show they are not as porus as the AZ game suggested.

    DONT LET DOWN!!

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      I know it will crush Angry seeing as Rueben Robinson is his favorite player, but a lot less of Robinson would be nice.

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        Ugh I cringe when I see his name.

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          As cruel as it would be, I would enjoy a “countdown” meter on this site for Robinson’s last game….this year that date would be harder to predict.

          He is the antithesis of the OSU beaver linebacker standards set by the likes of Barnett, Doggett. He’s probably worse than Pankey (who at least had the good sense to study Wildlife at OSU).

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      From the above link…
      “Oregon State’s résumé is clearly, obviously, distinctly, explicitly, plainly, indisputably, laughably superior to Oklahoma’s, and the coaches’ poll has the Sooners ahead of the Beavers. I don’t want to get started on this. I’m having a nice morning thus far. What burns me up about inept polls, I think, is that even when it should be easy to rank some teams, the polling bodies screw it up. I know sometimes polling gets complicated, but this isn’t. Oregon State is undefeated, with wins over Wisconsin, UCLA, and Arizona. Oklahoma has a home loss and its two wins are against UTEP and Florida A&M. Good gracious. Move on, John. Just live your life. Order a croissant.”

      Yeah, what he said.

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    You can follow exactly how many seats are left from the Tickets subsection at Beaver Byte. Down to 64 seats left. These are the last seats, but will get you in to see the action and be a part of the experience with the rest of Beaver Nation in a packed and loud Reser as we look to go 4-0.

    http://www.tiqiq.com/BeaverByte/Beavers-Tickets

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      Interesting that what has to be one of OSU’s best ticket sales for Reser Stadium and a non-CW game come against a WSU team with a losing record.

      That’s what winning against legitimate opponents and being ranked can do for you.

      I expect it will get genuinely loud. A few may even stand up on third downs. And the lost-and-found? Sure to be full and rocking.

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        We will definitely test the limits of that endless popcorn.

      • Beaver Byte says:
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        I think it will be rockin’. OSU fans are ready to get back at WSU for the Quizz play where he was hit so far out of bounds. WSU has been treating this rivalry seriously the last couple years and doing their best to beat the Beavs.

        With the very nice weather expected I think this will be a great day of taligating, Truaxing, and getting raucous inside Reser. I liked how the fans literally started hopping for multiple plays and during the TNT song as we took it to the Badgers. I also like Dylan Wynn’s tweet below. Should be a great gameday atmosphere. 🙂

        @cdylanwynn: With the game being sold out, If I raise my hands, the ground better shake #beavernation

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    Will USC continue to descend in the next month?

    “After Thursday night’s sold-out game at Rice-Eccles Stadium, the Trojans travel next week to Seattle to play Washington at CenturyLink Field. USC plays Colorado at the Coliseum on Oct. 20 and then is back on the road to play at Arizona on Oct. 27.”

    I could see them looking less than impressive at Utah, UW, or AZ, and losing one of them.

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      USC will win, putting them in the top 10, and giving UW an insane strength of schedule. A SOS that will still get no respect in sec land, cause UW had the audacity to lose AT lsu. Of course sec homers forget how closely a very bad UW team played them in Seattle a few years back. Somehow travel doesn’t compute for some sec morons.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    I’d love to see the Huskies beat Oregon Saturday at home. I think Washington is hungry.

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      i think it’s possible…Oregon isn’t as good as past years. WA is just average, maybe even a bit below, but it’s the best team they’ve played.

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      Very much possible. Too bad its yet another home game for them. The uofo first road game comes after a bye, 1st true road game doesnt come until Nov! For Washington, even Alabama has a hard time in death valley. But that LSU environment was good practice. Big question will be if huskies can move the ball on the weaker than advertised duck d. The Husky Defense will be the best ducks have faced this year by far. I’d love to see Huskys get quick 2score lead, and then watch the panic set in. Regardless, both UofA and UW have some impressive strength of schedules lined up. Husky could climb fast in polls with some wins.

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      You guys are high. Oregon will beat the Huskies by 3 TDs at least.
      UW is hungry no doubt, but that won’t mean anything in Eugene, at night, against a crowd that will be absolutely eardrum-blowing loud against their most hated rival.

      This coming from a guy that will still root for the Huskies, but let’s be real.

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        I agree that Oregon is greatly favored. I just hope that UW brings it with a d game plan that is both effective and demonstrative. I don’t have faith in the husky O. But should the huskies win(defensive scores?) somehow PAC national strength weakens.

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        I agree. I’d love to see the Huskies pull this out, but I doubt they are able to give Oregon a game for more than a half, and the score at the end won’t be pretty.

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    I concur, I hope this Wilcox led D can put it to them like Boise State teams of the past. I don’t think uw has the athletes on either side of the ball to compete. But being hungry can do wonders for a team, look at our Beavs!

    I have a feeling uw is going to win, the dirty Sark has to have something up his sleeve. With Lupoi and Wilcox, I would think they have been preparing for this game since last year.

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      Was Lupoi at Cal when they lost to UO 15-13 or something like that? He and Wilcox could make a difference, if nothing else in decreasing the margin of victory.

      UW’s offense has been unimpressive and I think that will be more of a problem than their D.

      But who knows – a rocking centruy link field full of duck haters, some forced TO’s….

      I’d enjoy it, but I wouldn’t put money on it. It would be great if that were UO’s only loss until the CW.

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        Oops, not at century link field….forgot.

      • Numbers says:
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        Wash win or lose, I hope the display an effective game plan so that asu can pick up where UW leaves off.

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        Washington is going to get crushed. Wilcox honestly isn’t that great. Defense looked like absolute crap against LSU and LSU is worse this year. Only reason they didn’t lose by 17+ to Stanford was cause Nunes couldn’t hit a receiver or his receivers couldn’t catch. Washington is ana verage at bes team. They won’t give UO an issue at home.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    Anybody think fans can get a “WAVE” going during WSU game. Not even ducks have been able to sustain a wave in years. Too bad we are not televised on National TV.

  • Will Overhead says:
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    Per Ed Ray: Don’t fear the “knuckleheads” (his word) and wear BLACK to the Oct 20 and Nov 17 home games to show support of the team.

    October 4, 2012

    To the OSU Community:

    I write today to challenge all of us to demonstrate the great progress we have made at Oregon State University in the last five years to create a more inclusive community – one that celebrates our differences and shows that together we are attaining excellence through diversity.

    This fall, we can do that in a very simply way: wear black attire to the Oregon State – Utah football game on Oct. 20 and to the Cal game on Nov. 17 to express support and affection for the remarkable football Beavers. This simple act sends a profound message: that we are united as a community and that those who engage in behavior that is hurtful to others will not deter us from taking this next step in appropriately living our values.

    In recent weeks, discussion about going forward with wearing black attire to two OSU football games this year has called attention to an incident in 2007 that was very hurtful to many in our community. At that Blackout Reser event, some students seeking attention wore black facepaint and afro hair wigs to the game. A picture of one of those individuals was published in the Daily Barometer. A very brave woman of color asked the Barometer to publish a guest editorial about how hurtful it was to see the paper portray such negative stereotypes. The Barometer declined to publish her editorial, which led to deeper, powerful discussions of insensitivity and ignorance on this campus. Sadly, some did not know that white students wearing black face and afros represented a throwback to hateful times in this country when white minstrels “played” black entertainers, and that such behavior was and is hurtful and frightening to many among us. In time, the editor of the Barometer understood the need for swift and strong condemnation of such behavior.

    At the next MLK Jr. Breakfast on campus, I noted that there will always be knuckleheads among us and that we will know that we have made real progress toward an inclusive community when we can call out foolish behavior, secure in the knowledge that we have each other’s back. I believe in each of you and the basic goodness of this wonderful community and University, and I believe we can show support for our football team and for each other in this simple way: appropriately support your school’s athletes by wearing black attire to the Oct. 20 and Nov. 17 Beaver football games.

    We cannot always choose the time and place and circumstances to demonstrate the power of our convictions. Yet, we can make a powerful statement about who we are and what we stand for with this simple act.

    Others have been involved in discussions about promoting this activity and it was announced that we would not promote a campaign for fans to wear black attire to these football games. I take full responsibility and apologize for not engaging in that discussion sooner. I hold myself and all of us accountable for understanding the harmful effects of racial stereotypes and avoiding behavior that perpetuates those stereotypes. I would hope the Barometer would also avoid perpetuating stereotypes and will condemn the behavior if it occurs.

    Sincerely,

    Edward J. Ray
    President, Oregon State University

    • Jack says:
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      Well said. Hopefully that puts that to rest.

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      This is complete bullshit!
      I am a knucklehead, and Pres Ray’s use of that term deeply offends and frightens me.

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      LOL White musicians put on black face and played the banjo and sang in what they thought was a “black” way, not to ridicule the black slaves, but to honor the music they had brought from Africa and the “black” songs written by such as Stephen Foster.

      The business of the AFRO is that of many blacks in the 70’s, as well as whites, who wore their hair that way. Ray Blume wore an afro, didnt he?

      So please, how is blackface and an afro, a bad stereotype? I dont imagine backs as having afros. They didnt have them in slavery days. And the blackface minstrals didnt wear afros, I dont think.

      Wasnt the afro part of the black power movement? So if anything, its a symbol of black assertiveness. Hey, it was a bad looking hairstyle, but lots of fashion from the 70’s was bad.

      I guess I am just a bigot.

  • helmsley says:
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    “in a very simply way” could be ignored except I think a university president should have a better proofreader.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    A third BCS computer now has the Beavs #1:
    http://www.andersonsports.com/football/ACF_frnk.html

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      Excellent computers = 1/3 of BCS total. 3/6 has us #1. Thats 1/6th bcs total. That’s pretty big! I wish the BCS numbers were released this week. Beavs would be higher than any bias human poll.

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        I heard we would rank 12th. But expect that to be higher since we would likely be ranked higher on the 14th if we continue to win. The human polls are dragging us down, whaddyaknow 🙂

    • beavers4life says:
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      The rankings don’t mean anything if we don’t keep winning. The way we beat WSU this Saturday will tell me where this team is at in regards to the rest of the season. The offense is getting better and better each week(To be expected; and it’s happening). The defense, that’s been our strength since game 1, but the passing D will be shown on Saturday(WSU doesn’t run the ball….maybe 10 times a game…maybe?) So get ready to see more of a pass rush than a “play run first, then pass” It’s the other way around this game. The only exception is the P/A pass. Otherwise, look for the drop back first, then if you see play action, use the front 7 to run protect then the other 4 to pass protect against the receivers.

  • wannabeav says:
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    The first BCS standings come out the day after the BYU game. If Beavs can hold serve Saturday and find a way to win in Provo it would seem a certainly they would be in the top 10 when the first BCS poll comes out.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    We started the day with 72 tickets left. Then it was 64, then 52 and now 51. Beaver Nation needs to step up and get these final seats sold. 37 of them are Valley View. I used to sit in Section 225 and these Valley View seats are actually pretty good. Georgeous view of the surrounding hills around Corvallis, the scoreboard, the practice fields and Truax, and a nice on top of view of the action that really lets you see the plays develop and the running lanes for Wheaton, Cooks and Woods to run through.

    The weather and festivities could be the best fo the year short of the Civil War. Truax and the rest of the tailgating should be festive. Hope to see as many of Beaver Nation there as we can get. Going to be a very enjoyable Saturday afternoon of good football, good food, and a darn good 4-0 record. 🙂

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      I don’t think those are tickets available from the OSU ticket office are they? Like stubhub, there are several sites that still sell tickets. I was under the impression that the game was sold out.

      • JD says:
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        Yeah, the tracker is for secondary market tickets. There will always be tickets that don’t get used but the OSU ticket office has sold all of the tickets for the game.

        • Numbers says:
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          I just checked the online tickets through osubeavers.com. I was still able to find some seats. Public ticket price $50 each. Section, 14 row 73. Section 12row 75. That’s up there but still available online.

          • Numbers says:
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            Ha! But checking goducks.com. There are some great seats still available online.

  • SadBeaver says:
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    I hadn’t seen this:
    66-7: That’s the record of Oregon State when it leads after three quarters with Mike Riley as head coach. Since the start of the 2004 season it is 48-3.

    Perhaps we shouldn’t be so hard on Riley for his conservative calls in the fourth. I know most of us don’t like it going into halftime either though.

    • Fightingbeaver says:
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      Stats don’t tell the whole story. In today’s Pac12 Riley had better learn to play and be aggressive on offense the entire game and to score up to the end of the game. This does not count if we are ahead by 40 or more pointsahead and put 2nd and 3rd string teams members in to play.

      • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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        “Stats don’t tell the whole story.”

        Well, yeah they actually do when the stat is wins vs losses…

        • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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          The WHOLE STORY is never told…….so what?

          • Fightingbeaver says:
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            Idiot, when you play a conservative offense the pressure is on your defense to hold the line. That means they are usually on the field longer and then they get tired. When you have a tired defense it is much easier for the opponent to drive and score. Do you know anything about football?

          • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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            66-7 and 48-3 since ’04 says you’re the idiot, not I.

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            All that matters is if they are productive, they could be running up the gut and getting 4 yards a chunk. But as long as they score it doesn’t matter if it ic conservative play calling or not.

          • Krogercomplete says:
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            What do we mean when we say “conservative”? Riley’s approach is ball control and eating clock, which should keep the defense off the fied.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    Only 48 hours away!

    • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      Phil Collins!!!

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        How much do they have to pay for the rights to use Phil Collins? I can’t imagine it’s exactly cheap.

    • Will Overhead says:
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      Gee, I can’t help but wonder why they left off the first 20 seconds of black – no picture, no sound – that was part of the version showed in front of the Wisconsin game? If it was good enough for the crowd, it should have been good enough for YouTube.

      And, to whoever puts these together, there is no “1” in a film leader. It ends at the 2pop.

  • JD says:
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      Woops, not logged in to edit. I like what Riley has to say about the defense.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    For those of you complaining about the human polls being the only reason we aren’t #1 in the country, do you really think the beavs are the best team in the country? Or even top 5? Sure they’re 3-0 but all 3 wins have been very close, nail-biters that went all the way to the last drive. The most impressive wins (Wisc. and @UCLA) were done with 2 weeks to prepare. Last week, with only a weeks preparation, the defense was beaten soundly both through the air and on the ground on the way to giving up 35 points. Before I personally buy that this is a true top 10-15 team, I’d like to see some solid wins with only a week to prepare and get healthy.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      There are very good reasons for complaining about the human polls. The BCS is much dependent on them, and they are flat out bull for much of the season. Do they even out and become totally rational at the end? I dont think so. I think they are still affected by stereotype.

      It matters not at all where we are ranked, in terms of ragging on the human polls.

      If we must have polls, let them be totally based on performance this year. What is wrong with that?

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        Instead of coming out Sunday Morning. If they were released on Tuesday or Wednesday, at least we could fake believe the voters went back and watched the games, etc.

      • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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        I agree that the human polls are crap and incredibly biased. I was just directing it at the people who pay attention to them as they pertain to the Beavs because if the Beavs are gonna make a BCS bowl, it will be an automatic bid to the Rose Bowl through winning the conference. Therefore, where we sit in the BCS means essentially nothing

        • Numbers says:
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          It’s good publicity and good for recruiting. Let the Beavs have their fair share of time in the sun.

    • numbers says:
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      Your “True” Top 10-15 Teams are using some pretty swiss cheese logic too my friend.

    • BeaverFever says:
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      I think that most human polls are projecting where teams will be ranked at the end of the season given the body of work to date. The “non biased” polls reflect where teams should be ranked based on what has cruelly occurred. Which method should be used? Personally I would so away with rankings until week 8-10 all together.

      • numbers says:
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        I disagree with doing away with rankings. People love rankings. If we do away with AP and Coaches Poll etc, then JoeBobs and BillyBucky’s Saturday evening Rankings will take their place. Same goes for Pre-Season polls. They are awfull, but bored people just gotta be ranking, they just gotta be. However, I think holding current polls more accountable is progressive. Wait a couple days to release, so maybe pollers have chance to fact check and watch some games… Not saying they will do it, but will at least have ability to.

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          I think the advent of computer polls, fairly unbiased regarding conference, percieved status, and last season’s results, might make a dent in the bias.

          You are very right imo, in that the media and fans want polls, and they aint going away.

          A team like ours, coming from a 3-9 season, has a lot to prove. So in some ways our current status is just fine. If we win a few more games without losing I expect us in the top ten.

          You all with the numbers maybe can tell me if we win out but lose the CW, if we can be BCS anyway. The north winner will probably be undefeated, but the south will have losses. At 10-1, wouldnt we be in line for BCS?

          • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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            Computers are not free of bias, a human decides which team or conference is the strongest, thus determining the SOS. Sagarin who recently has been very high on the pac10 schedule, has the OR teams ranked 8th and 10th, and has the SEC teams ranked highest.

          • Jack says:
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            Some computer models (like Sagarin’s) account for the last six or seven games performed by the whole. That means they take into account last season’s performances as well as this season’s. As this season’s games push old data out of the model they begin to move toward the same results these same season raw data models produce.

            The argument against these same season models is ignorant. There can be no eyeball test. There can only be results against SOS. OSU will take a hit on SOS this weekend, dropping them in the same season models. Oddly enough, the only way OSU’s SOS gets better after this weekend is if Wazzu wins. And the only way to counterbalance the drop in SOS is to perform a major blowout win.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Here are my early BCS rankings estimates:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgUoXofjyDB9dDMyNHJNNmNxSTljc1lsSHd5NGhXNkE

    If the BCS Rankings were released today, I predict we’d be #12. Since the Harris Poll isn’t released, I’m using the AP in its place. I feel good about this, since they looked about the same for last season. Also, one of the computer polls isn’t included since it hasn’t begun releasing numbers yet.

    • JD says:
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      Well done. A Beavs win this weekend puts us into the top 10

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    Sorry to put a damper on the good feelings in “Beaver Nation”, but I can all but guarantee that we will lose to WSU. The double rodent will be in the house and I have brought my toxic BEAVERGOPHER
    luck with me. So far the Beavs record is 0-4 in games I have attended in person.
    The only hope is to wash out the evil spirits with copious amounts of micro brews prior to kickoff!
    Hint, hint.

    • JD says:
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      Did you still need a ticket?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Got a ticket. Need beer!

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          Come to the faigrounds, 53rd and Reservoir Ave for beer BeavGoph.
          Flat Tailgate Society in the far NW corner will have a keg of brown ale and a keg of kolsch on tap. The kolsch will go quickly because of the nice weather. Guests are welcome to join starting around 11am.
          Ride the $5 shuttle to/from the game too!

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Thanks. When does the shuttle run? I would like to hang around Reser for a couple hours to take in the atmosphere, band, etc. Do you park out there?

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            Shuttle starts 3 hours before kickoff.
            Yes you can park there. It was free last year, not sure this year. I think if you park by us and the other RV tailgaters in the back you might get to park for free.
            Look for large 5th wheel RV with giant angry beaver logo on the front, that’s Flat Tailgate Society.
            Ask for JasontheBeaver.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            I’ll be the guy dressed like Goldy Gopher……………..with a black Afro and face paint of course.

    • bone says:
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      http://youtu.be/Xa6c3OTr6yA

    • homefry homefry says:
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      I’m f’d up right now….in anticipation of the game of course.

    • beavers4life says:
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      For the record, when my uncle goes to games with us, it’s always been a loss, but when we took him to the Wisconsin game….he stayed up until the last drive of Wisconsin……hmmmm….maybe you should stay the whole game and not leave early. The moral of the story is….we won that day despite his being there and he broke his losing streak! #Believe!!! sorry….Believe!!! Forgot I’m not on Twitter. 😉

  • Numbers says:
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    Guys that wanna see Poyer more on special teams, reference Utah’s targeting of USC Robert Woods at end of 1st quarter.

    • Max says:
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      It looks like he threw a block head-first and got hit in the head. Poyer is doing a great job as the Beav’s fair-catch specialist.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Bookstore is selling beaverjuice tshirts

    http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/db_269105/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=NgNCZ1tZ

    • ObjCritic says:
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      No thought to design, but I’m surprised they made them in time for the weekend. That they made them at all….

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Haha that’s pretty funny. Guarantee those will be big sellers.

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      Yes, later models can display some creative art……lol……

      • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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        I already made mine : sippin on that #beaverjuice. Was hoping it would be more original for the game. Kudos for their quick response.

        • ObjCritic says:
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          How about students with orange on their upper lips and a tshirt that says:

          “Got BeaverJuice?”

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    Hope weather is good as planned a stadium is rowdy. 2 big recruits visiting. Hoping this start continues and leads to a strong class. Utah looking tough tonight, white is a good back, reminds me of Doug Martin. Hope Beavs keep it going! Anyone know the HD channel for PAC 12 network on Comcast?

  • bone says:
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    I know we all love to pick on Lettuce Boy, which is warranted because he hasn’t performed well. But no kickers have.

    Anthony Gimino ?@AGWildcatReport
    Pac-12’s field goal accuracy is down to wretched 61.1% (58 of 95). National average entering Thursday was a below-average 69.2%.

  • angry says:
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    Sounds like Leach doesn’t think they’re too far off:

    “I thought we got better this week,” Leach said. “There were only a handful of plays that the game could have been differently and we need to figure out how to get those plays. It’s one thing to play hard. It’s another thing to play hard and play precise and have things in context and we need to improve on that.

    “… Nobody is satisfied with just a good showing.”

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    Regretting my inability to make it to Corvallis for what should be an entertaining game to watch. Leach should make it competitive, I just have trouble seeing WSU’s D keep pace with a balanced OSU offense that has Wheaton/Cooks on the outside and a couple of 6’7″ TEs and a 6’7″ receiver that need to be used to greater strategic advantage. I’m not worried about OSU players losing their focus, they seem to be saying the right things.

    OT: I hope Geno Smith keeps performing and wins the Heisman – rather see him get it than Thomas (spite, yes). Thomas is getting a bit “lost” on a team that’s seen Barner put up some big numbers. Actually, one of the indirect values of Thomas is his presence creates opportunities for others like Barner. Banker once said UO’s offense is like “basketball on grass” and that continues to ring true; Thomas can create opportunities without the ball in his hands.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf–geno-smith-becomes-air-raid-s-greatest-disciple–ndash–and-college-football.html;_ylt=AqF0YZpMxyQyhjbT8jAhI2ccvrYF;_ylu=X3oDMTQwMTJhZDQ4BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBOQ0FBRgRwa2cDODE0OGNlMjYtYWE2Yy0zYzAxLTk2NmMtZDY0MzkyOWY1NWY4BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNtZWdhdHJvbgR2ZXIDMWRiZDk1MDMtMGU1Yy0xMWUyLTliM2YtMGZkOTg4N2M0OWE2;_ylg=X3oDMTFqdXByMzhlBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuY2FhZgRwdANzZWN0aW9ucw–;_ylv=3

  • ObjCritic says:
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    From BeaverBlitz on Mannion: “Mannion threw for 812 yards in the road wins over UCLA and Arizona, the highest passing yardage in back-to-back games in Beavers history. His 4,416 career passing yards already puts him sixth on OSU’s all-time list, and he’s not even halfway through his sophomore season.”

    Impressive. I didn’t realize that.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      He’s going to own every single OSU passing record when his career is over.

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        Unless he leaves early for the NFL. If he plays all 4 years he’ll get those numbers for sure. Although he may need to pick up the TD pace to break DA’s TD record.

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          He plays 4 seasons for OSU I think he’ll finish around 85-90 TD passes, maybe more. If he averages 25/yr this year and the next 2 he’ll have the record easily and will be around 3rd on the all-time list. He’s a special QB and when he committed I got pretty pumped up cause I knew he was capable of being great.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Let’s hope he stays clear of the INT record. DA must have that one.

    • Hellobeavers says:
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      I recently read that some analyst said Mannion is absolutely a top 10 pick. Didn’t read the article but guessing they didn’t mean after this year or next. Hopefully he’ll stick to play the civil war at home as a senior.

  • Grape says:
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    BYU’s offense looks downright terrible.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      It is. They have a really good defense, but think OSU can score 20+ on them. Beavers score 20 points on BYU and they’ll win. BYU can’t score though.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      BYU fans are getting cocky and saying BYU and Utah will beat the Beavers. Lol. Only BYU fans get excited about 6-3 win over a mediocre team from the WAC.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    I just won 2 club level tickets to the game tomorrow from the Beavers Twitter page! Now I can take my nephews to their first game, but the only problem is, the Beavs want me to DM them back via Twitter. That isn’t possible unless the Beavs account is following me, so I can’t send them a message with my contact info. Anybody have any suggestions? I’m fairly new to Twitter.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Just mention them to follow you, they should follow you, then you can DM them.

  • Numbers says:
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    I have to confess about last week. I told my wife that the best bet in college football last week was to take the under on total points of Baylor vs West Virginia. Honest and seriously. I told her it would be the easiest money. Thank goodness I’m not a gambler, cause sometimes I can look really stupid.

  • beavers4life says:
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    I need to make my weekend predictions for Pac-12!!!

    Arizona @ #18 Stanford (Arizona W)
    WSU @ #14OSU (OSU W)
    #25 UCLA @ CAL (UCLA W)
    #23 Washington @ #2 Oregon (Oregon W)

    I see Arizona as the only “upset” game Saturday in the Pac-12.

    • angry angry says:
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      Cal could upset UCLA. It’s a pretty good matchup for their style.
      I agree with your other 3 picks. I think Cal/UCLA is a pick ’em (not sure what the line is)

      • Numbers says:
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        Stick with your original thoughts of Cal and QB Maynard. I think Cal gets clobbered.

        • angry angry says:
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          He is horrible…so bad, but he’s due for a decent game and this matchup isn’t bad for what Cal does. Like I said, pick ’em game imo so you’re fine with UCLA. I just think it’ll be a close game and Cal could upset.

    • Numbers says:
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      I pick the same, except I’m going with Washington.

    • homefry homefry says:
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      This is Cal’s type of game, just when you think they are toast…take the 3 points!

  • Numbers says:
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    Wow, checking stub hub for Stanford game tickets. Accidentally pulled up az at Stanford’s game, tickets are 1cent. They can’t give them away, ha!

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Kevin Palma, 4* LB according to Scout who is visiting this weekend, has a top 4 of Stanford, Colorado, San Diego State and Oregon State.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Pac 12 segment next on gameday. Curious to see if beaverjuice gets mentioned again

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      Pollack shows up on set delivering In & Out and gives a gallon jug of Orange liquid to Howard with the word Juice written on it. corso picks it up and says “black amd orange koolaid”.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Hahahaha, they just gave Desmond a jug of orange Beaver Juice on game day.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    From the Seattle Times, key matchup is WSU’s offensive tackles, first time starters, against Chricton and Wynn. I like that matchup.

    http://seattletimes.com/html/cougarfootball/2019355183_cougarmatchup06x.html

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    They just did a big In-N-Out and #BeaverJuice gag on GameDay. David Pollack came out with the In-N-Out Burgers and fries, gave them to everyone and then brought out a 2 gallon orange-colored jug labeled “Juice” for Desmond. It was pretty sweet. Lot’s of exposure for Oregon State. 🙂

  • ObjCritic says:
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    For those of us who thought Leach would have been a productive hire at OSU (and those that didn’t), this will be fun to watch; Riley calling the plays against Leach. Don’t know if Leach calls his own or has an O Coordinator do it, but this game is going to be a blast to watch. Had Leach been given the reigns at OSU, Mannion et al probably would be looking like Texas Tech with Crabtree by the end of the year. Instead, they’re finally a balanced pro-style offense still putting up yards in the air.

    Who would have thought that Reser would be sold out this early in the season for a game against WSU?

    • Beaver Byte says:
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      Yep. A true 100% complete sellout. The last two seats I was harping on sold sometime last night. Not one single ticket remains. If you see Ncaa_viOlation tailgating make sure he gets his butt in his seat by kickoff. Do they play the Beaver 2012 intro video at every home game? I want to hear “I can feel it coming in the air tonight…”

      • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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        Hey Byte. I’ll be there. I actually ended up winning 2 extra tix last night so now my nephews get to go to their first Beav game today. GoBeavs!

        • Beaver Byte says:
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          Awesome. I actually won my four tickets too. And that is letting me take my nieces to their first Beaver games. #GoBeavs2012

  • CraigBeav says:
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    Hahahahahahahahah!!!! Kirk Herbstreit is terrified of chickens.

  • Grape says:
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    We should all email them.

    ————-
    Thank you for your e-mail. Our customers have made In-N-Out Burger® the Company it is today, and we sincerely appreciate hearing from you.

    We would also like to thank you for your suggestion to open a location in Corvallis. We plan on expanding as far as we can, and particularly into areas in which our customers have expressed interest. As such, we are happy to let our Real Estate Department know that you are anxious to have an In-N-Out Burger® near OSU!

    Thank you again for contacting us.

    Sincerely,

    Jonathan

    • angry angry says:
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      I really hope they open one. This In and Out/beaver juice thing is pretty amazing.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    They are sold out of #BeaverJuice T-Shirts. I was really hoping to buy one today at the Book Store for $10 flat without the extra for shipping. Those things will probably sell like hotcakes all year. They need to quadruple the output.

    • progressivebeav says:
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      I ordered 6 yesterday for the beaver fans at work. Sorry about that.

  • WFO WFO says:
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    Has anyone used the pac12 network’s website to stream a game? I got a comcast email and password to use,just don’t know what to do next.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Game day… Just got into range to pick up Internet on my phone…missed last weeks game so I have to catch that on DVR and will be listening on sat radio today. Hoping for big things!

    38-17 Beavs

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I’m expecting a reverse or double reverse play call today, maybe even throw in the flea flicker off of it.

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