23.Oct.2012 Oregon State @ Washington

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I'm finally starting to get a feel for the Beavs. Last week I predicted a 27-13 final and got the margin of victory correct. And this week,  I feel more confident than ever in my prediction.

I've actually watched Washington quite a bit. Let me say this: they have a horrible defense. It might be the worst in a major conference, after West Virginia's. I know they're ranked 55th in total defense, and kept USC (overrated) in check, but the three teams (LSU, Arizona, and Oregon) they've played who have good offenses put up an average of 48 points. They are horrible.

Washington's offense loses more turnovers than the defense gains, too, so unlikely that will be a neutralizing force.

Beavs should be able to run, pass, whatever.

The Huskies offense is statistically worse than their defense, but if I'm the Beavs I'd be more worried about that unit. The QB is a good player, and the RB is decent. Luckily the line is horrible. We've beaten to death that Banker needs to stop mobile QBs yada yada. Since Washington's supporting cast is so bad, I think he can stack the box and come out looking good this weekend.

Even the Husky punter is terrible. They average 31.7 yards per punt, which is 115th in the country.

Just a horrible team. I am confident predicting complete domination, the only thing keeping the score down (compared to that 48 point average) being long sustained drives and a lot of rushing yards. This is the week they play a complete game.

41-17, Beavs

PS. Regarding the RB commit from Texas: disagree with the Michael Turner comparison. Turner is a little faster, less shifty, and more of a bulldozer. This guy jukes more. Doesn't have good top end speed, but shifty and seems to produce. Gotta add, I was not impressed with his competition at all. Best attributes are patience and vision–I think these are why he's so productive. I'm neutral on this verbal–since he relies on patience and vision, he'll need a great line, so a lot depends on that.

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  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    I am no 1

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Angry, how do you predict the season turning out? Let’s say we’re 7-0 after this game. What do you predict for:
    ASU
    @Stanford
    Cal
    UO
    Nicholls State

    Not looking for score predictions, just W/L

    • angry angry says:
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      ASU – W
      @Stanford – W (but Stanford’s D is tougher than I thought, won’t be easy)
      Cal – W
      UO – L
      Nicholls State – W

      ASU worries me a little…they have the ability to pull off an upset. I just hope Maynard is still QBing Cal when OSU plays them. With an average QB that game becomes tougher, too.

      • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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        Would a 1 loss OSU team in 2nd place in the Pac-12 north be given a higher bowl than a USC team with 2 or more losses in 1st place of the South?

        • angry angry says:
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          That’s a tough call because the loss would be late in the year, which is never good. OSU is a better team than USC. Anyone who actually watches the games would see that. USC is getting buy on reputation and recruiting classes.

          • OneEyedKing says:
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            We won’t be re-playing the Nichols St. game.

            Really, we could lose 3 of the last 4, or we could win all 4, and I really think it’s a coin flip. The safest bet is a loss to UO and an upset somewhere along the way. But I think we have the talent and drive to run the table if we just put it all together, so 10-1 or 11-0 would by my guess.

            Stanford looks decent at home and terrible on the road, but I’m not impressed by their QB at all, and their coach certainly is no Harbaugh.
            Even if Cal replaced Maynard, which they’d better not, it seems like we don’t lose to them very often; remember when we knocked off #2 Cal a few years back?
            ASU could be dangerous, as they’re kind-of a ghetto UO on offense and decent on defense, but if anything, that will be a good game to tune our defense for the Civil War. And while their screen-pass game torched us last year, our CBs and safeties seem significantly better this year, so they won’t get shredded.

            Regarding Haskins(I think that’s his name) I like him quite a bit. He seems like he has some power, good quickness, and good speed. I didn’t see him making really any hop/cuts like Quizz used to, which is an important skill that we’re currently lacking. But I disagree about the top-end speed issue; from what I saw, he got to the sidelines and just torched who he was playing. Granted, they could just be really slow, but this is Texas we’re talking about; the level of play is much higher in general. So while it’s possible, I don’t think it’s probable.

            I AM kind of curious why we have 45 RBs now, though. Seems like we have some needs elsewhere. It’s good to have a “Pipeline” through Texas, specifically for RBs, but still; we have other issues.

          • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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            I could be wrong, but I think the plan for Nicholls State is to play that game unless the Beavs are in the Pac-12 championship game. That’s too much revenue to give up on plus it pads the Beavs record for bowl consideration.

          • GoBeavs90 says:
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            He means OSU will be hosting the Pac-12 Championship Game the night before the scheduled game against Nicholls State, obviously.

          • OneEyedKing says:
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            Yup.

            Anyone, off the top-of-their-heads, know how the tiebreaker system works for choosing who represents the North/South? Because if, say, we lose to someone, then beat UO(or vice versa), we’d each have one loss, so who goes to the Championship Game?

            Either way, while I don’t think it’s a sure think, I have confidence that we can win the remainder of our games at best, and at worst, lose one along the way but still beat UO. 1 loss may not get us to the National Championship(those underdog stories would be out-of-control though) but it would get us to the Rose Bowl.

          • Bill says:
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            Head to head winner goes.

          • GoBeavs90 says:
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            Tiebreaker. Whoever wins the Civil War goes to the title game because of the head-to-head matchup.

          • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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            How about this one…..

            OSU loses to Stanford but wins the rest of their games
            USC wins out (only loss to Stanford as well)

            (ok-I cheated and looked up the answer-The BCS ranking would be the tie-breaker)

          • Jack says:
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            I think that tie-breaker is only to determine the host of the CCG.

            Here’s a partial answer to the hypothetical.

            OSU will likely only make it to a BCS game if they beat Nikegon and go to the CCG. We’d take a hit in the human polls with a loss to the Ducks, but the computers would keep us afloat for one more week. The problem in that scenario would be that we then have to add Nichols State back into the equation, and the computers would destroy us on SOS.

        • whatever says:
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          Absolutely.

      • HopefulBeav says:
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        If Angry’s prediction is true (which seems very doable) then the Beavs would for sure be in the Rose Bowl at 11-1 with Oregon in the championship (assuming they win out) as long as the Ducks don’t stumble in the CCG. A Ducks CCG loss would give the winner (presumably USC) the Rose Bowl bid, Ducks an at large BCS bid, and the 11-1 Beavs would get bumped to the Alamo. Basically we’d have to be huge Oregon fans for a day as horrible as that sounds.

  • bone says:
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    I love beating Washington.

  • Jack says:
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    Regarding Haskins, I said at first the obvious comparison would be MJD. But I think that’s wrong. After watching his tapes–and checking on who I thought of once I started really watching him run–I can now say with certainty that Haskins is a Ray Rice clone.

    • angry angry says:
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      Ray Rice is more accurate, but he’s not as good. Not as fast, not as much “quick twitch” (ugh, hate that phrase), and doesn’t look as well built. Rice is also a great receiver.

      • Jack says:
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        Built almost precisely the same. No receiving highlights makes for little comparison on that front, but he will be made to learn in OSU’s offense if he doesn’t know how already. And Rice also boasts the same 4.4 40 time with no real top end speed once he hits his long stride. I think both have vision and a low center and can accelerate for the first 30 yards before they tail off.

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    I hope I’m wrong, but I think the Huskies secondary is better than given credit for…..
    It’s gonna be cold, wet, sloppy, and in Seattle. I think this one is closer than expected….

    27-24 a toss-up

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    Haskins reminds me of a Sanders, or a Sproles shifty-type back.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Even Sark has said Price doesn’t trust the game plan or play calling, and THAT much insecurity can’t be good. It’s one thing to not trust your line to protect you, its another to not trust the coaching staff.

    I’m expecting some longer runs from Agnew, some nice complimentary work from Anderson, and Cooks and Wheaton to return to form. Would like to see some more production from the TE’s, I still think there’s more production there without substantially diminishing what Cooks and Wheaton produce. If the D can continue to get TO’s, the offense is going to get more possessions and put up better numbers.

    I think what’s made this team hard to read is appreciating just how much development occurred in the off-season – Qb’s working with WR’s, DT’s getting demonstrably stronger and more effective – and how much more talent is on the O line.

    I see the Beavs winning by 21.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Longest run by a Beav RB this year is 30 yards. Time to top that on Saturday.

  • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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    Hunt tweet: “Sean Mannion looking extremely sharp today. He could feast on UW secondary. ”

    30% chance of a “few showers”.

    After last game, I need some Cookies, at least 7 or 8.

    • Jack says:
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      Mannion should be good. Who else gets a two week vacation in the middle of the season to rest up that throwing shoulder and arm?

      And guess who’s been spending most of his rehab in the tape room.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        I agree, this will have been a benefit for Mannion and the team. I’m not worried about rust.

        • Jack says:
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          Well… Mannion likely won’t be breaking off any 25 yard scrambles since he’ll be worried about his knee…

          … wait… never mind.

        • Bill says:
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          A full week of practice will shake off any rust.

  • Bill says:
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    The huskies tend to play better with the crowd behind them so I expect a slightly closer game but it would take a total collapse for the beavs to blow this one. Luckily they know how to win on the road with hostile crowds.

    With Mannion back the offense should click a little bit more. Husky CBs are susceptible to big plays.

    Keys to the game –
    1. Get to the QB. Sack, knockdown, and hurry Price. Make him roll left, UW’s o-line is weak, the DE’s should be able to create a lot of pressure.
    2. Shut down Williams and Sefarian-Jenkins. These guys have 37 and 41 receptions. Next guy down has 15!. Hit Sefarian Jenkins every chance they get. Make them work hard for every yard. Get them fustrated, reroute them every pass play.
    3. Force turnovers. OSU is one of the best at forcing turnovers and UW is the worst at holding onto the ball. Esp Price.
    4. On offense – as always run the ball. balance out the attack.
    5. Cooks! Cooks! Cooks! Get him the ball! I wonder how much his ankle limited him in the last game.
    6. Score early and often. UW tends to check out of the game when this happens.

    Other items
    Keep up special teams play. Kostol – unsung hero so far.
    UW specials teams isn’t good. Might take a chance and go for a block.
    Solid fundamentals. Wrap up tackling and fly to the ball.

    I see UW coming out with some passion, the crowd will be into it. They’ve been knocked pretty badly in the media and by their fans after the UA game. They definitely are going to be looking to prove something, however the schedule is really taking a toll on them. If the beavs can create pressure with just 4, it’ll be a long night for UW.

    I feel like a 35-21 game is more likely. Close first half but then the beavs pull away in the 2nd. Mannion would have to turn it over inside his own territory a couple times for UW to stay in this game.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    I think the Beavers win 41-10. This could be Crichton’s biggest game of the season. He always loves playing the Huskies and the fact that their O-Line is so bad and they likely won’t have success running the ball, he’s gonna come after Price. Beavers should be able to do whatever they want offensively. With Mannion back the offense should look more explosive this week. Mannion is great at checking at the line into a different play and really goes through his reads well. I think Cooks and Wheaton both go over 135 receiving yards and Wheaton with 2 TD catches and Cooks with 1. Storm should have a shot at 100 rushing yards with how bad the Huskies are against the run.

    This is the ideal opponent for the Beavers. A team struggling badly on both sides of the ball. Should be a comfortable win, IMO.

    Go Beavs!

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    Oh you poor little beavers. How can you be so wrong?

    Price is not only the best QB in the history of QBs, he’s also a future five time Nobel Award winner. He’s just been playing possum until this game. Now is the time he will prove to you all that he will be a much better QB than Jake Locker, who was the previously bestest QB ever… in history too.

    What’s a possum?

    • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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      Haha! I forgot about that guy. I wonder if he has joined the massive “Fire Sark” campaign that is ramping up. I love when the huskies suck! Never want them and the Ducks to be good at the same time. That would be a Northwest I don’t want to live in.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      I thought that was Mariotta? Better than Harrington, better than Dixon, better than anyone, AND only a freshman!

      I think our DLine has done a solid job on just containing mobile QBs; our scheme has been, all year, to rush 3-4, drop 7-8 back, and try to get pressure and contain with just those few front guys, because our DLine is pretty good, and most offensive lines suck. That should be the gameplan Saturday as well. And while it’s frustrating sometimes, for a QB to have all day to find a WR because we don’t apply much pressure, it has been decently effective, and I expect that to continue.

      31-14 Beavs.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Imagine how they would do with big Fred- don’t forget him just because Beavs are winning!

        I keep saying that because i think it’s easy to do when the team is successful.

        • Jack says:
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          They’re not forgetting. That’s what “brick squad” means whenever you hear them call it out. A lot of them keep Fred in their hearts. Hell, even Jared is doing so as a rook in Dallas. Fred was a man among men.

  • Jack says:
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    12-1 Ducks lose to 10-3/11-2 USC in CCG, USC gets Rose in automatic bid, Ducks get BCS at-large, 11-1 Beavs get left out.

    • Jack says:
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      Hey! Stop deleting comments!

    • beavers4life says:
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      Jack, disagree on USC automatic bid because if Ucks go undefeated and go to the NCG, then the Rose Bowl gets to choose who they want for the Rose Bowl and they’d take a 1 loss OSU over a 2 loss USC(Loss to Stanford and Oregon), My hope is that OSU wins out, goes to the CCG, plays USC, beats USC and then goes to the Rose Bowl and Oregon goes to the Alamo Bowl! I can dream can’t I? 🙂

      • Jack says:
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        Automatic bid would come with a CCG win over the Ducks, thus their 12-1 record in that hypothetical.

        • beavers4life says:
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          After CCG Oregon would have to have a 13-0 record to go to NCG. USC would have lost to Oregon twice and Stanford once, leaving them with a 10-3 record to Oregon States 11-1 record after the nicholls state game. Why would the rose bowl choose a 3 loss team to a 1 loss team? Your logic would mean USC would have to beat Oregon twice and we would have a better record than Oregon at that point and further more, Oregon state hasn’t been in the rose bowl since 1965 whereas Oregon has at least 3 times in the last decade…

          • Jack says:
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            Let’s go slowly here.

            OSU and Nikegon win up to the CW: 10-0 and 11-0
            Our hypothetical has us losing to Nikegon: 10-1 and 12-0
            We play Nicholls State and win: 11-1

            USC has one loss already, loses to Nikegon and could also lose to ND without affecting their chance to win the south and play in the CCG: 9-3/10-2
            USC beats the Ducks in our hypothetical CCG: 10-3/11-2 and 12-1

            USC gets to go to the RB because they are conference champions.
            Conferences can only have two teams play in BCS bowls.

            Who will they take for the at-large bid?

  • alex says:
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    Let’s say the Beavs beat everyone but Oregon, who wins out. But K-state also wins out and bumps Oregon out of the NC game. Do the Beavs pick up a BCS at-large bowl at 11-1 with their only loss to the #3 team?

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Yes

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      I would say yes. Probably the Fiesta Bowl.

    • angry angry says:
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      They should, but they’ll drop in the BCS with a late loss, and that’ll be an excuse to put some boring, overrated “traditional power” like Oklahoma in. It probably depends where the Beavs are ranked going into that game. If they are ranked 4 or higher, they can probably lose and still get a BCS (that ND win last week was killer)…

      • HopefulBeav says:
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        Seriously. Imagine what that would have done for the Beavs national perception if BYU would have pulled that off.

      • GoBeavs90 says:
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        Well, there are 4 at-large spots. OU is going to get one, SEC Championship Game loser gets one, Pac-12 gets one and this year it appears the Big East will get one. 11-1 Beavers would get in over a 9-3 USC team, I think.

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      Possibly. It’s more likely, though, that the Rose Bowl invites us instead of UO, and UO gets the at-large.

      If I remember correctly, and they’ve said this on ESPN a few times before, the Rose Bowl Committee doesn’t have to invite UO again this year because they went last year, and 2 of the last 3. And while UO is exciting, OSU is a MUCH better story, and a rematch against Wisconsin could be a big seller.

  • angry angry says:
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    This bowl talk is dangerous so early. Hopefully the players aren’t pondering this stuff…

    • OneEyedKing says:
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      We just locked up a bowl lol. Now it’s just fun speculation.

      For previous teams we’ve had, I’d worry. But for this particular group, I don’t think they look ahead and get trapped. The leadership is excellent, and they remember last year too well.

  • Jack says:
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    Here are the bowls we’re guaranteed to be eligible for with the corresponding wins. Selections may be different in the end, and number of wins may vary depending on how other conference records play out.

    New Mexico – 0
    Fight Hunger – 1
    Las Vegas – 2
    Sun – 3
    Holiday – 4
    Alamo – 5
    Rose – 6

    • capitalcause says:
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      We win six — we’re playing for the National Championship!

  • ean says:
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    I think I was the only one that threw out Turner and I wasn’t trying to say he is like him at all. Just that he keeps moving his feet moving the entire time he is carrying the ball until he is brought down. Tough to tell how good he is based on competition level and highlights of just his best runs.

  • mckalk says:
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    Did anyone else find Vaz’s comments about being disappointed a little odd (I know they’re just kids), but surely he did not think that Riley would go with him over a healthy Mannion did he?

    I would certainly be disappointed, but I would not express it to the media in those terms. Transfer coming now that he has shown what he can do?

    .

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      I didn’t find it odd. He wants to play like every player does, he probably shouldn’t have expressed it to the media but I thought it was fine. Any player would be disappointed. I doubt he will transfer. He’s a little different than Katz.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        Its not like he was the starter and then suddenly Mannion is the guy, like happened to Katz. I can see why Katz couldnt stay. Dont blame him at all.

        • Mckalk says:
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          That goes to my point. Riley described it as a “hard” conversation on the news tonight. What’s hard about it? Back up held down the fort, now starter is back . Maybe media is trying to make something of it?

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Does he go to Wisconsin or SDSU? Inquiring minds want to know.

  • Kenny Beaver says:
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    I believe the Rose Bowl also has some kind of clause that allows it to take a team that has not appeared for the longest time if teams are tied. That would give the Beavs the edge over Oregon or USC. We are so close to smelling roses!
    I heard a rumor that the Beavs have never won a Rose Bowl in Pasadena because the 1942 game was played elsewhere. Is that true?
    Also, since the Big-10 doesn’t have a team rated in the top 12, does the Rose Bowl have to take the Big-10 champion? Some years Texas or TCU have played in the Rose Bowl, right. No matter who comes from the Big-10 they will get clobbered this year by the Pac-12.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      They haven’t. Rose Bowl in 1942 was played in Durham against Duke.

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      It’s true that the 1942 game vs Duke was not played in Pasedena. It was cancelled originally because of Pearl Harbor being attacked less than a month earlier and they were scared of another attack targeting the stadium full of fans.
      Duke volunteered to host the game so the Beavs traveled to North Carolina to play.

    • Jack says:
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      That clause was done away in the late 90’s with the Rose finally accepting the BCS. The tie goes to the highest ranking in the BCS standings. Now with the Pac 12 CG and two divisions we might just be subjected to the whims of the various bowls and who they select.

      How many teams have won the Rose Bowl anywhere but Pasadena?

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Jack is correct. Michigan State got hosed two years ago because Wisconsin’s BCS ranking was higher.

  • Beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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    The Haskins kid should put on about 20-25 pounds and be the next Tyler Anderson. Thats the only way I see him playing a significant role in the future. Looking at the film I don’t see a 4.4 40.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    RB Damien Haskins committed today after his visit, switching to Oregon State from Memphis. Smart move. OSU is a much bigger program that is going to be really good for several years to come in a great conference.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=21755

    Regarding UW, I expect a hard fought close game. Something like 28-21 OSU. Playing in Seattle isn’t going to be an automatic win. Beavs have to come ready to play and try to take the early lead so that hopefully they can have somewhat smoother sailing in the 2nd half. I am nervous about talk that this game is going to be an easy win. Don’t see it like that. OSU will have to have another strong road performance like they have so far in 2012. Think we get the ‘W’ but see it as a game OSU will have to play smart in.

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    Haskins ran an 11.1 100m as a junior, which is almost exactly what Markus Wheaton was running as a junior.

    He’s got solid top end speed, though his ceiling is probably not what Wheaton’s is in terms of pure speed.

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      Yeah, from highlights of him this season, he has some speed. You add that with the vision and patience and this is a really good commit for OSU.

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      Link? I tried to find track times for him and couldn’t. That said, he’s burning those 2A guys on film all day. In his senior film, all he has to do is get to the edge and he’s gone for a TD every time.

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    I think it will be 38-24 OSU just because this is a road game, even though it’s Century Field and also because I haven’t seen much of Washington play this year, but from all the things I’ve heard, their pass defense is crummy. I think Angry is pretty close though in his prediction. As for the season, the players just have to take one game at a time and the team will be okay!

    • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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      I agree — Washington will be another close game, They will do bettter against our pro style O, than with spreads.

      I love the speculation now, as we can reasonably dream of top BCS bowls or even a CCG or even … yes, winning it all.

      I hope and trust the team is going one game at a time Amazing how this season is playing out. Fate likes us.

      ONE GAME AT A TIME!!!

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        Will they? Washington went against an LSU offense that’s more conservative and a QB who’s having all kinds of trouble completing passes and the UW defense stunk it up. If you look at the two teams the Beavers are the superior team at every position but TE and Riley is the better head coach. Mannion is back. I think it would be close if the Beavers came in way too confident, but this Beavers team strikes me as a humble bunch who have a chip on their shoulder after the last 2 years. I think they will take care of business.

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        As Craig Robinson says, ODAAT!!

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      way too many points. This game will shape up just like UW’s games vs. Stanford and USC (with whom we share offense similarities). Low scoring: 17-14; 21-17 etc. Just hope we end up like USC not Stanford. You have to know Sark has been scorching the players in practice. Dawgs will be fired up in my estimation. If we don’t turn it over; give up a cheap score (like Sankey’s run against Stanford) Beavs win.

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    How much time does Sark have left- 2 years?

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      he’s under pressure, no doubt, but he’s not CLOSE to the situation Ty was in. Everything points to them having a much better year next year. If they have less than 8-9 wins next year I think he’s in trouble. His basic problem, however, is that UW vastly over-performed in the won-loss column his first three years with fluky wins over SC, Zona, Cal. The actual game to game performance and talent on the field was actually 4 or 5 wins the last two years, but they got some breaks. Now it looks like they are on the precipice of a backwards step but in truth this is the best of his teams. Whether or not they beat the Beavs they will end up with 6-7 wins.

      • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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        Keith Hayward to Sark

        “Coach, don’t worry, we’ve got this one in the bag. Just run a bunch of passing plays. I spent the last couple years teaching their guys to not look for the ball, like you asked me to. I love it when a plan comes together!!”

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          And on the first play Poyer picks off Price and takes it to the house. Heyward: “What’s going on here?! That’s not how you play defensive back!!!”

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            Haha. “He looked back for the ball. Not fair!”

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            Be interesting to see if UW players are NOT looking for the ball.

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    Like many high school football recruits, defensive lineman Nick Terry (Elk Grove, Calif./Pleasant Grove) is finding that official visits can provide both clarity and confusion to the recruiting process. With visits to Nevada and Washington State concluded, and Boise State and Oregon State upcoming, the picture is still somewhat cloudy.

    “It’s actually made my decision a lot harder,” Terry said of the visits. “I had a really good time at both of them. Washington State is trying to build the program back up and trying to get as many good athletes as they can. And with Nevada, I have a very good relationship with [defensive line] Coach [Barry] Sacks and I feel really comfortable over there.”

    With visits to Boise State on Nov. 2 and Oregon State at a later date — plus a possible visit to Fresno State — upcoming, Terry said he anticipates that feeling of comfort to extend to every campus and trip he takes, so he’ll need to look deeper into his options.

    “It will probably come down to the defense they run and the relationship I have with the defensive line coach,” Terry said.

    The 6-foot-4, 265-pound lineman said he is looking to play outside in a 4-3 alignment. That would seemingly eliminate the Cougars, but Terry said Washington State’s 3-4 defense allows for an outside linebacker to step down into a 4-3 technique. He said that location won’t play a role in choosing among his finalists either, as all four are out of state, but close enough to home and the West Coast. The final certainty for Terry is that he’d like to announce a decision at the end of his senior season.

    “I definitely want to make a decision at the end of the season,” he said. “We start playoffs in a couple of weeks, so it could be soon. I’d like to do it either at the last game or just at the end of the season.”

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    Interesting that Tim Euhus said Utah played primarily a nickel D on Saturday which was new for them and unexpected by the Beaver O.

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      the spread offenses at UO, Zona, etc. will eventually force all Pac 12 defenses into 3-4’s, nickel & dime packages. Contrary to a recurrent theme in this blog, I don’t think OSU needs a ton of DT’s but rather hard-hitting and mobile defensive backfield types. The ideal team to stop the Ducks–imagine 11 Clay Matthews lining up against them.

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    We got two at least two CB’s coming in for the ASU game. One (Dashon Hunt) is a 4 star, past Ucla committ, who decommitted over the Summer. The other one (Hunter Jarmon) is from Waco, TX and is not rated, but has several schools after him including Minnesota, Texas Tech, and Missouri

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/204/class/2013/page/visits/sort/visitdate/order/true

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      Hunter Jarmon is a wide receiver and rivals has him as a 3 *

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    Blitz has an article on Tatum ‘4.2’ Taylor having to reschedule his OSU visit because of an ankle injury. Hopefully getting a later date with him gives us an edge.

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      I don’t think his official was set up for this past weekend originally. I think he’s set for later next month. But I think he injured his ankle and thought he would be out for the remainder of his season, so he thought he could trip. It looks now like his injury isn’t as bad as first thought, and he stayed home as a result.

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        “Tatum Taylor isn’t ready to make his decision and he has at least two more official visits coming up. But it’s clear the Beavs are still in great shape.

        The Seattle (Wash.) O’Dea athlete was supposed to visit Oregon State over the weekend but that trip didn’t happen. He went down with a minor ankle injury recently and his mother convinced him to stay at home another week to try to get back to full strength so he can help his team.”

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          Just verbal already!

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          I just got the sense in September that he was coming in November, so it was a surprise to me that he was one who was scheduled this last week. I knew he had the bum ankle, but I thought the rehab mentality swung the other way.

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        Right, scout has him listed as visiting 11/17.

  • Fightingbeaver says:
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    20 – 10 Beavs

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    Joe Avezzano is, for the third time this season, invoking the.spectre of a trap game.

    My friends, did you not witness the goal line phantom fumble by Yvenson Bernard a few years back? And that was a home game for OSU. Is there any doubt that UW is the luckiest team to ever place cleats on a gridiron?

    All this loose talk about bowl scenarios is very premature. And unBeaver-like. Until the Beavs put forth a solid performance on both sides of the ball for four(ish) quarters, talking about beating UO, though fun to dream about, is unwarranted.

    Do not expect a blowout in Seattle. A close win after a hard-fought game at best.

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      Every game this year has been close, no matter the competition. There’s no reason to expect this one to be any different.

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        Except for 2008, 2009, and 2011.

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          Sorry BeaverinTX, I misread your post and thought you were referring to OSU/UW series. My apologies.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      For a ghost Joe, you are wise. I to am concerned about this game. Dogs have some talent.

    • mckalk says:
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      Beavs still won the “Bernard” game.

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        True, but it quickly changed from a solid thumping with Locker gimping around the sideline in a neck brace to a very real opportunity to win.

        Complete and utter bullshit.

  • helicopterbeav says:
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    Washington plays tougher than expected but the Beavers overcome a sloppy first quarter to pull away and win by 17. Mannion will play great, just like he has all year. Weathervane angrybeav commenters will call for Mannion’s head when he shows some rust on the first two drives, then say he is the greatest as he steadies the ship and picks apart the Huskies.

    I love to see the Beavs crush the Huskies. I remember as a kid watching UW absolutely crush the Beavs on their way to a national title. Reser had more purple and Gold in the stands than black and orange. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

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      Speaking of purple, or a lack of it. Did anybody see the crowd shots of the Neb. vs Northwestern game. Red with a sprinkling of purple. Cats had to use a silent count AT HOME, in their last, failed drive. Crowd had to be close to 70% Neb.

    • Jack says:
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      That’s because Reser was Parker back then, and we had to stand in a driving rain for three hours watching our team get blown up by 30-40+ then watching the puppies lie around on our field with roses in their mouths.

      Some of us stuck through the whole game… and many others like it.

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        You’re right, Parker. Thanks.

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        Parker was better than Reser now. Those were the glory days.

        Easy parking, no lines for the bathroom, choose any seat, so quiet you could read a novel. The place is way too crowded and noisy now. Let’s go back. JB

        PS: Glow is off the Sark love-fest in Seattle. They are being driven crazy by assuming perpetual third place in the Northwest.

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          you forgot to mention pissing in a trough toilet where you can rub shoulders with the guy next to you while relieving yourself. ahhhhh….the good old days…..

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        Yep…witnessing what you’ve described is why Joe Avezzano hates the Fuskies slightly less than the zeros only because the pups have at least tasted humility with a winless season.

        The worst part was the Big O being invaded by middle-aged Tyee Club porkers post-game just to rub it in. Yeah, you beat a winless team. Golf clap.

        Joe Avezzano despises the Fuskies with every fiber of his non-corpulent being.

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      helicopter, you do make some good points, but, ” Weathervane angrybeav commenters will call for Mannion’s head …” is not one of them. If anyones head would be called for it is more likely that it would be Riley’s.

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    Rumor in Aloha high school is that Brayden Kearsley is very close to dropping BYU and committing to the Beavs. He may be pulling Johnny Ragin with him. It appears they are going to commit somewhere as a pair. Finally maybe we get some more in-state kids to join Phillips this year. Winning has its rewards.

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      I’ve been waiting for that shoe to drop for a couple weeks now. The excitement over those two has been pretty high for a while, and I think they’re feeling it too.

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      He’s been talking up OSU the past few days on Twitter. Today he mentioned something about seeing Marcus Wheaton on the NFL Network and being excited to see him there. Then a BYU fan sent this to him…

      Tuckett Slade ?@tuckett1414

      @BK55_ERA for someone that is supposed to be committed to BYU I get nervous that you talk about OSU a ton. I love there coach. Must respect

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      What’s the likelihood of these two going on missions (I assume they are Mormon if they are getting interest from byu). bc when they do that they are free to go wherever. The nli is only good for one year.

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      Ragin has seemed like a Beaver lean for a bit. He wears OSU gear. If they go as a pair, that would be great. Always nice to get talented in-state kids to commit. Hopefully those two will be next.

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      Love this biography on Kearsley from Scout:

      “Biography:
      Three-year starter for Beaverton (Ore.) Aloha.

      Triple digit pancakes and 0 sacks allowed in three years.”

      Succinct.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    James Dockery signed to the Panthers roster.

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      09 Civil War. Still see him missing his jam on Jeff M. as he gives up the TD.

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    I need to squelch a rumor. I am not a candidate for the head coaching job at either Idaho or Washington. JB

    PS: Neither is my friend Joe Avezzano mainly because he remains dead.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Funny to see both Oregon and Kansas State blaming the other guy for cancelling their non-conference game that was supposed to happen this year.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/69316/3-point-stance-parsing-k-state-oregon

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      The original reason is Nikegon’s fault. They wanted to cancel their 2011 KSU away game at the last minute in order to play LSU. They also wanted KSU to complete the 2012 visit in order to get that home revenue. Nikegon also canceled an away game at New Mexico for this year when they canceled the KSU series for the same reason.

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        You forgot that ESPN offered both LSU and Oregon twice what they would make on a home game to play in the Cowboy Classic. That is why LSU got paid 50% more than Oregon. It was a no-brainer business decision when you can double your money in one game. Money talks!

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          No one forgot that ESPN offered more, people are merely pointing out that Oregon and KSU had a valid contract. This worked out ok for everyone so no harm no foul. But a prettier girl does not trump your wife and a bigger payday does not automatically invalidate a committment. I hope that the greed comes back to haunt both parties when it comes time for bowl selection. Ask Mack about his love for the extra dollars brought in by the Longhorn Network.

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        Sorry, I had that backwards. KSU still wanted Nikegon to go to Manhattan this year and claimed no away scheduling opportunities for several years. Nikegon wasn’t willing to make the trip with no return guaranteed, and they didn’t want to pay the financial penalty required for them breaking the contract in the first place. On top of that, they found an opportunity to dump two away games for two home games in 2012, and they took it.

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    OT and to break the intensity of the conversation about Saturday night’s game – I posted this towards the end of the last thread and didn’t get an answer – so, does anyone know if the bb practice facility construction schedule is ahead, behind, or on target?

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      It started a month late, but it wasn’t going to be done until near the end of this coming season anyway. It should be done by the end of winter term or the beginning of spring. They’re not dried in yet, but they’re covered. So mechanicals will be going in without a hitch.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Dawgs, you’ve been warned….. (the 2nd one is pretty funny)

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/news-video/video-beavers-attack-dog-in-edmonton-city-park/article4427366/

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      Oh, man those are good!

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      Beavers are normally “non-agressive” if the idiots leave them along. They mate for life and are very protective of their family and home. I lived in SE Alaska where the people respected the beaver and liked the fish ponds their created with their dams. Dogs go after beaver like they go after porcupine with about the same painful results.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Riley on radio now saying Gavin Andrews is getting his knee scoped right now and will be out for a couple weeks.

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      Crap! Is this where our lack of depth starts to bite us in the butt?

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        Only if one of the starters gets hurt. Are you thinking of Josh Andrews?

        • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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          Who was Gavin rotating in for? Does he play on punts?

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            He’s been ST this year. He’s getting scoped to remove scar tissue from a previous surgery.

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            Riley said Gavin Andrews plays on the “shield team” (I don’t know what that is) and he said he is on the field goal team.

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            the shield team is the three guys standing between the long snapper and punter on punts that take on anybody trying to block the punt. generally only one or two guys are sent by the punt return team so it’s not too difficult most of the time but it’s an important job. i’m somewhat curious who replaces him. tyler perry maybe?

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      I think he will sign with Oregon State. Ideal situation to learn the system for a year under Sean and take over as the Oregon State QB in 2015 for a great run. I’m sure he would also get to see Reser Phase 3 built during his time. I think OSU would go to Holiday Bowls and better with Luke and stay in the mix for Rose Bowls.

      • Bob says:
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        What makes you so sure the Phase 3 of Reser is going to done soon? I hadn’t heard that, I really hope your right. What’s the word Beaver Byte?

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          The city of Corvallis needs to expand the current bridge at Van Buren heading east to Hwy 34 from 1 lane to 2 or more before any more stadium expanding. Getting out of town is murder with that bottleneck. Couldn’t imagine adding even more cars to that mess. Maybe their plan is to keep as many fans in town for as long as possible after the game so we’ll spend more money at restaurants, etc.

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            I stick around anyway.

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            The bike riding citizens kept ODOT from putting in a slip lane on the by pass so traffic could continuously merge onto 20/34. They have hosed traffic movement out of CVO east.

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            The most ridiculous part of it, is that they plan for bike path on the other (North) side of the highway at least to Peoria road. They shouldn’t be allowed to bike on the 5 lane highway as it is. But to appease a few they negatively effect the needs of many.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Jordan Poyer is saying his brother is talking to UofO. Don’t know much about him as a player, but hopefully if he’s looking at them, he’s looking at us too.

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      I forget his name off the top of my head… Jeremy? He has decent size, but he’s not playing a normal position for that size. He’s a great athlete like his brother, but they have him playing QB in 4A ball at 6’2″ 230#. Astoria had the suspensions early which led to several forfeits. And they’ve only played well in a couple games. But I imagine the younger Poyer is underrated as a football player like Jordan was.

      • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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        He spells it Jeramy. Looks like he plays both QB and LB

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    Just been thinking about who needs to step it up as the second half of the season starts

    Dylan Wynn – I don’t see him playing any better or worse than last year. He should be reaping the benefits from the attention that Crichton is sure to get the rest of the year.
    Storm Woods – the running game needs to improve if this season is to continue the way it has.
    Sean Martin – with the nickel and dime packages, hes asked to play on the outside. Lots of responsibility.
    Feti – has only 10 solo tackles. Worst of the three starting LBs. historically our mlb is the playmaker.

    Players who just need to leave –
    Robinson. That is all.

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      “Feti – has only 10 solo tackles. Worst of the three starting LBs. historically our mlb is the playmaker. ”

      Kind of hard for him ‘step up’ when as you said above we are playing more Nickel/Dime packages. Historrically our MLB has mad a ton of tackles because they’ve been on the field every defensive snap. Not the case in 2012

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        I think Storm would be better if he had some better holes to run through. Our run blocking isn’t great. Against Utah the holes just weren’t there. One thing I like about Agnew is I’ve seen him bounce to the outside and go around when there isn’t a hole. Also, I think Storm has been dealing with physical issues… cramps (UCLA), and bruised knee.

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          It seemed like Utah was stuffing the run with blitzes that the O line may not have prepped for. It also seemed like either just good defensive coaching (the right scheme for the offensive play called at that moment) or it was a case of “we know what play you’re running before the snap”. I hope it wasn’t the latter, but after watching the replay of the game I have that concern.

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        Feti has been consistently solid to great in run support. Solo tackles or not, he has made an impact.

        Pass coverage is another issue entirely- major weakness for him. That’s where he needs to improve, because he’s been burned for 2 TDs that I can think of off the top of my head. And the Beavs haven’t yielded too many TDs this year…

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          yeah… Feti a lot of times is only on the field for 1st down. Rueben Robinson is sadly better in pass coverage.

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      feti isn’t on the field as much as last year, but he’s still huge. as i understand it he’s essentially the quarterback of the defense even though he’s on the sideline on a lot of passing downs. totally agree on martin, he’s been straight up ineffective. i’d like to see handford, christian or mishawn cummings getting his snaps, or at least his responsibility scaled back.

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      What I have seen is that the we are DE’s across the line on passing downs, and with Wynn inside he struggles to get by the lineman, Crighton seems to be able to play anywhere. Fifita and Fernando seem set on the edges. So, I don’t think Wynn has been at the best position, as I have seen him make the most of plays on the end, but the rush can be effective more when we rush all DE’s.

      Storm has good vision, but there doesn’t seem to be a confidence in what he’s always seeing. But I don’t think its all his fault, I could see longer runs if the or the TE holds their blocks a little bit longer. The Tackles and TE have been disappointments this season. The reason we use so many TE seems to help out the Tackles, but Prince and Hamlett don’t either have the quickness to get in blocks or strong enough to pin down the ends.

      I know Martin has been getting killed on this board, but I don’t think it has been as bad as these haters think. He has been burned on some plays, but some of those have been poor calls or great football plays. Poyer and Reynolds have gotten beat this year too, but they tend to make up for it for plays as well, showing their experience. I think it is great that Martin is getting a ton of experience, and it does allow us to move Poyer inside where he can make more plays. I do agree I am surprised we have not seen as much of Christian as we did early.

      Zimmerman has shown some deer in headlights lately. It would be nice to see a combo of him and Watkins, but he never seems healthy. How good does Murphy look though? Zimmerman has been taking bad angles on tackles and has been hitting instead of wrapping. Tackling has been a surprising strength, but the past two games I have seen a slip from the previous games.

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    OT- Giants Sandoval has been at bat 3 times and hit 3 HRs in the World Series. Just tied Babe Ruth, Reggie Jackson and Albert Pujos.
    Still at least 2 more at bats.
    Could be history in the making.

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      History made.
      I tuned in during the 5th and couldn’t believe Verlander allowed 5 runs. SF is on a roll.

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        Tim McCarver has to be the worst color guy ever. He’s so stuck in the past. He belongs in some nursing home exchanging recollections with some other old codgers. I think he annoys Joe Buck also. JB

  • progressivebeav says:
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    Looks like commit Victor Boldin is doing pretty well this season:

    • PDX Beav says:
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      Good grief…..he looks like a Cooks clone. He may not have the top-end speed that Cooks has, but Bolden has that jump-cut that not many do. Exciting to watch.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      He looks like the guy who will be running the fly sweep next season. Surprised that hasn’t been ran as much this year. Would love to see it ran more.

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    He is too slow! Haha.

  • Jack says:
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    Phil Steele picked us yesterday. Lindy’s picks us today.
    http://lindyssports.com/college-football/pac-12/pick/oregon-state-at-washington/48759

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    I’m assuming the upset is ATS?

    Dave’s model predicted a UW loss for us in the spring, but that was when their recruited talent was close enough to the talent actually on the field to also follow his metrics. What happens when half their team is walking wounded?
    http://cfbmatrix.com/portfolio/upset-alert-week-9/gallery/predictions/

    • JD says:
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      I’m thinking it is to win straight up and not ATS. Right below the picks he talks about being 50% on dogs which is 250% better than Vegas dogs win overall.

  • Jack says:
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    Hmmm…

    The lines have moved at least .5 toward UW in the last 15 minutes. About half the books have moved a full point.

    Is there news of half our team being suspended upcoming?

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    Clownzano effect!

  • ean says:
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    anyone else concerned that Washington’s defense has been fairly solid against pro style attacks?

    • angry angry says:
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      no

      • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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        Angry, you are going to have to change your name( like our LB’s!) if this roll continues.

        • angry angry says:
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          No, I am angry about other things so it’s fine.

          • beavers4life says:
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            like the faith in our Field Goal kicker Romaine. Inconsistent kicking field goals should be unacceptable.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Glad to here it.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Who has Washington’s defense been solid against? Stanford? Nunes has problems with the forward pass. USC scored 24 points on them in the first half and went completely conservative the entire 2nd half.

  • krogercomplete says:
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    I feel like this has been discussed before, but does Charter carry the Pac 12 Network?

  • beavers4life says:
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    Weekly picks:

    UCLA @ ASU (ASU W)
    Colo @ UO (UO W)
    USC @ UofA (USC W)
    WSU @ Stanford (Stanford W)
    CAL @ Utah (Utah W)
    OSU @ UW (OSU W)

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      I’m not sure USC will win. In fact I think UofA is going to make headlines. UCLA and ASU are 2 pyscho teams playing each other, depends which personality shows up to the game.

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      I like those pics, though several I could see going either way.

    • angry angry says:
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      This week is difficult.

      I’ll say:

      ASU
      UO
      UA
      Stanford
      Cal
      OSU

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      i don’t usually take part in this, but what the heck….

      UCLA @ ASU (UCLA W)
      Colo @ UO (UO W)
      USC @ UofA (UofA W)
      WSU @ Stanford (Stanford W)
      CAL @ Utah (Utah W)
      OSU @ UW (OSU W)

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        I think ASU-UCLA and UTAH-CAL are toss ups, I could see it either way. People not giving USC much love, I think they pull it out.

    • Numbers says:
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      This week I’m going way out on a limb…
      UCLA, UA, CAL, WSU, OSU, and Colorado to lose while beating the spread.

      • beavers4life says:
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        I have been avoiding the picking of who will beat the spread because of the pick’em thing. I can see these games as a toss up:

        USC @ UofA (USC W)
        CAL @ Utah (Utah W)
        OSU @ UW (OSU W)

        This weekend is a true trap game for OSU. Playing a “weak” team on the road while we have ASU looming next weekend @ home. I could see this game going either way, but I think we’re too focused and our receivers know what Heyward likes to do defensively. So I can see us torching UW’s secondary.

    • beavers4life says:
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      UCLA will be competative for the first 3 quarters, but I don’t see them winning this game, but if someone gets injured again for ASU, then yes, UCLA will win.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    I remember earlier in the year Tim Euhus predicted the Beavs would go something like 9-3 on the Talkin’ Beavers show. Does anybody remember which games he thought we’d lose? Everybody laughed it off at the time, but now he’s starting to look a little like Nostradamus. (although I hope he was being too conservative still)

    • WFO WFO says:
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      I predicted 9 wins on this very blog. Hope I’m wrong :).

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      I remember him not being specific, other than saying that they’d win every home game, because then I remember thinking he was calling for a win over the Ducks.

    • beavers4life says:
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      I think he said a loss to Stanford and UW at the beginning of the season…can’t remember the other one at the moment.

    • Timber2002 says:
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      when asked what games the Beavs would lose, Tim said “ones on the road”

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Improvements to Reser are quite clear in the photo accompanying this article:

    http://sportsmashup.com/2012/10/25/pac-12-power-poll-plus-byu-plus-utah-state-week-9/

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      definitely an area where OSU is trending up and UO is trending down currently.

      • Ackrite says:
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        I think those are Utah cheerleaders, I think it is red in the pompons. It is a Utah power ranking

        • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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          with angrybeaver tattoos on their faces?

        • 3GBeavs says:
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          I think those are pink Pom Poms from cancer awareness, orange on the sleeves and angry beaver face tattoos…

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          I stand corrected, just looked at it again on my computer, damn iPhone and it small screen.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    former LSU players using drugs? No!!!! it can’t be

  • Jack says:
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    Really? We have to put up with a beat writer who can’t tell the data he’s using is seven years out of date?
    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2012/10/oregon_states_graduation_rates.html

    Come on man!

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      From the article, “The numbers measure a school’s ability to graduate student-athletes within a six-year window. Figures released Thursday assess student-athletes who began their college careers in 2005.”

      BEGAN in 05, SIX year window……doesn’t seem so out of date to me.

      Come on man!

      • Jack says:
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        Fine. Don’t read the numbers which clearly state “2002-2005 cohort.”

        That means all the students who entered during those years are accounted in this report. The write-up makes it sound like the numbers are recent and real.

        They’re not.

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          You do get what I’m saying and how the article is just dead wrong? No?

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            Nope. The NCAA table linked in the article shows for the “figures released Thursday” that for year 2011-2012 (cohort 2005) the GSR’s are as reported by Hunt.

            Not sure where you find “2002-2005 cohort”.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Check the NCAA link.

            http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/newmedia/public/rates/index.html

            The numbers are for 1998-2005.

            Point:Jack.

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            Checked the link before my last post. The Div. 1 Graduation Success Rate tab allows one to search in two year increments (ie 2011-2012, as stated above). The cohort for 2011-2012 is shown as 2005 and the graduation rates for FB and Basketball are as reported by Hunt.

            Made sense to me, still does. I’ll let this dead horse lie now.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            I believe the program was phased in from 2002-2005.

          • Jack says:
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            In reading articles from other school’s beat writers, they all correctly explain that the GSR numbers just released are a rolling four year average with the final year being the 2005 matriculating class.

            If it were just a one year snapshot, you and I could probably do the math. But this data set includes a wide range of recruiting classes, which makes for interesting reporting for schools who have had coaching changes within the periods specified.

            I was incorrect in calling the data out of date. I should have said out of context. Although, in taking it so out of context, he makes it appear as though both programs he chose to concentrate on were currently doing very poorly. That’s simply not the case.

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    I predicted an undefeated season and a slot in the National Championship Game. I forgot to post it or tell anyone. JB

    • homefry homefry says:
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      you will be wrong…

      • Jack says:
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        He was passed the queen of spades and the ace and king of hearts. He can’t do anything else but shoot the moon after the fact.

  • Jack says:
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    Ha! Mom’s a tease!
    http://instagram.com/p/ROWbu0pXNV/

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Tigers pitcher pfister takes a shot straight to the skull and he stays in the game
    that looked inches from being life threatening. Really surprised they didnt spend more time evaluating before keeping the game going.

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    I expect a great game where Oregon State comes through at key moments to secure the win and earn the all-time best start in program history. The defense needs to do its best to hold UW to 17 points at most, and OSU’s offense should be able to score in the upper 20s or more to grab the victory.

    Mannion just has to sustain drives and the team make sure they avoid penalties that might stall drives or cost us points. OSU is best when their offense is helping the defense a little more. Price has been flustered in recent weeks from pressure and I believe OSU matches up pretty well to make him uncomfortable.

    Oregon State 28, Washington 20

    #7 Oregon State vs Washington:
    http://beaverbyte.com

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      Why does Oregon State have to hold UW to 17 points at most if you’re predicting 28 points for Oregon State and 20 for UW?

  • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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    Anyone attend practices this week? Wonder how good they looked in practice and how serious they were.

  • Joe Avezzano says:
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    Well, it’s official. Joe Avezzano and the award-winning Avezzano family will be in attendance Saturday. Bad memories of being surrounded by purple and losing in OT two years ago.

    Remind Joe to tell you about some very bad behavior by UW fans behind Joe and his buddy the day DA threw about twelve INTs. Joe greatly dislikes all things Husky. Relatedly, Joe is a drinker.

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    I simply can’t wait for this weekend. Mannion is going to flat light up the Huskie secondary…hopefully enough to get Vaz in the game late…like to see him continue to see game time.

    And I hate the Huskies. Not as much as the ducks or even Notre Dame…but still enough to enjoy watching them wallow in sub-mediocrity do a decade. Glorious.

    38-17 Beavs

  • Jack says:
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    Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

    Hold on there!

    What’s next? Are they going to start arresting Wall Street bankers for fraud?

    Let’s just give coaches the free pass they’ve always had and go about our business please.
    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8553497/ncaa-adopt-stricter-rules-coaches-report-says?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

    *it now occurs to me that NCAA coaches do not have a lobby with which to pay off the unelected officials at the NCAA, and that my Wall Street reference was a poor analogy as a result

    *so be it

  • Jack says:
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    Our coaches were at the O’Dea/Rainier Beach game last night. O’Dea because that’s where Tatum Taylor plays. But Rainier Beach also has Leo Keilani. You might have heard about him last summer as Leo Pili-Vaka, a 6’9″, 350# sapling who was a little new to this football stuff.

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    Someone help me out here. I have a memory of seeing a picture of Cooks beating out DAT at the finish of the 100m last spring. Is this right, and if so, can someone post a link to the picture? I’ve poked around the Oregonian but I can’t find it.

  • Bill says:
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    Just from watching the UW-AZ game, Seems like the UW tackles could only handle speed rushes and then Price would step up in the pocket. I think our DL should use some spin moves to collapse the pocket. Once the UW tackle committed to the speed rush, they looked very vunerable to the spin move.

    Also if anyone watched the pac12 network preview, UW oline could not handle simple stunts vs a 3 man line.

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    Question: if Wisconson wins the Big 10 title game, Do you think an 11-1 OSU would be overlooked by the Rose Bowl for 9-3 USC (loses Oregon twice and Stanford) because they wouldn’t want to schedule the rematch?

    • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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      We’d probably get the Fiesta bowl with Stanford going to the Rose. (they’d have the USC tiebreaker)

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        Only two teams are allowed from one conference to go to BCS games, for us to go to a BCS Bowl besides the Rose, The Conference Champ has be be playing in Rose or NC or the Rose Bowl has to pick a non Pac 12 team as there at large team.

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    Ooooh! You can paint some tiny A on a hill green. Big whup!
    https://twitter.com/oregonstateuniv/status/261898856055320578/photo/1

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    A few weeks back there was a story about film exchanges between teams. It seems that Urban Meyer was doctoring films sent to opponents so that they would not show motion or shifting before the play and hence would mislead opponents. That same week Cal vs Ohio State, the Cal kicker could not kick a straight ball. The missed kicks had a lot to do with them losing. It seemed strange because the Cal kicker is usually not that far off. There have been a lot of missed field goals this year in the College game that have changed outcomes. It got me thinking about Meyer and about Sark. Would or could they doctor the ball? I hope that the Beavers are allowed to supply their own footballs used for kicking.

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      Interesting conspiracy theory. But teams supply their own footballs for offense and kicking.

  • angry angry says:
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    What do you guys think about using the forums more during the week? Like, for off topic stuff?
    I changed the registration method so it’s self-authenticating.

    The forum is nicely set up and is being wasted. Users here clearly want to discuss off-topic things that are on their mind, so why not do it on the forum? Forums are located in the right margin under the “Pages” tab.

    People say nobody reads the forums so they won’t post there, but that just perpetuates the problem. I think the forums could be active on days when I’m not posting new material. They could fill that gap if people would take a few minutes to register, check them, and post their off-topic ideas there instead of main posts dedicated to a specific topic. IMO it would make for some nice mid-week/slow day reading.

    • BeaverinTX says:
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      It would be nice to have a catch-all location for recruiting discussion…

      • angry angry says:
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        I’ll make a recruiting forum over there. Maybe that will get some blood flowing.

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      I think that would be productive, thanks.

      • angry angry says:
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        I just made a recruiting thread over there and put it at the top since that’s what people like discussing most. Then general football, baseball, basketball categories, then a general discussion at the bottom.

        Get over there and register accounts, people. That is your opportunity to make topics, rant, share recruiting tips, keep things active when I don’t have much to say (I am not one to force output just to keep traffic flowing), etc.

    • KC says:
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      I’m sure you’ve contemplated this Angry, but why not hand off some of the post/writting duties to the more verbose regulars like SS and JB? If they were willing that is. I’d love to see JB write about basketball and recruiting topics on this blog… not that I don’t like his blog, but one stop shopping is niiiiiice.

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        Yeah me and JackBeav discussed it. I think we’re both sort of lazy and cranky, though, and didn’t communicate our ideas well. I’d rather JB write his work in the Forums…integrate his blog into there. It would be win win because it adds content to this site, and his work gets read by more people. I like using this main page for my main complaints or interests…the forums would then become a place for the posters here to start topics/write about what they want. Then the chat would serve as a place for non-Beav games that are somehow related to the beavs (e.g. when Oregon is playing USC, etc). That’s how I envision it. Not sure if it’ll happen.

        • WFO WFO says:
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          Not a bad idea for non-beav games. The chat format just sucks on my phone and tablet.

  • Afghanbeav Afghanbeav says:
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    Leaving Monroe, OR. Heading north to Seattle for the game!

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    Only 241 tickets left for the Arizona St. game. Looking like attendance could be 46,200+ for this game. That gives OSU a good chance to be 100% or better capacity on the season minus the Nicholls St. game which we can still avoid playing if we continue to win. For those who say sub 46K is enough for OSU, how would you have liked those of last decades’ fans saying 36K is enough? OSUProf has this right. There is demand for a good 3% growth every year as long as OSU is winning 7 or more games the bulk of its years. We really shouldn’t build anything a seat less than 49K for Reser Phase 3 because it is still atleast a few years until we get that built and by then 49K will be fillable for 85+% of games as long as the program is solid. Reser Stadium post Phase 3 will be a great economic engine for OSU along with the ESPN/Fox $3 billion deal ($20.8 mil a yr. average) and another $7-8 million a year from the Pac-12 Networks we will add on to that within 5 years. 🙂
    http://www.tiqiq.com/Tiqiq/SingleEvent.aspx?BrandID=fansided&EventID=4364880144&PublisherID=1123278&WidgetID=0

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      factor in peak oil if you are doing long-term projections

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    was just listening to the prep report on the local radio up here in portland. they were interviewing a guy from Rivals who had a few things to say about local guys who’s names are coming up in recruiting. Said OSU is in serious talks with Bryon Bodon of Crescent Valley.

    More interestingly, he said he had it on good authority (although he couldn’t reveal his source) that Kearsley is likely to be a Beav. Also said that with the recent success, expect to see guys committing more quickly than in the past couple years because they are getting interest from some big names in Texas and California, and guys with current offers don’t want to see their offers dry up.

    Sorry to not post this in the forums, but not sure if I’ll ever use the forums when the main comments section is more user friendly.

    • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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      “Said OSU is in serious talks with Bryon Bodon of Crescent Valley.”

      My kids went to school at CV (one is still there). I have watched Bryon Bodon play for years (starting with Corvallis Little League). While BB has good size and decent strength, he falls short in most other areas, including football IQ, motor-level, practice habits, and character. OSU should not waste a scholarship on Bryon Bodon. Seriously.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      I’m with you.

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    Does anybody worry about KHJ knowing the schemes and calls and providing an advantage to UW? I have not heard much talk about him and/or his effect on the game tomorrow. Do we think his ex-players Poyer and company feel like they owe him something for leaving? Is it a non-issue?

    I see it being another close game, would love to see an emphatic victory, but I think it stays close.

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    3* CB Treshon Broughton will be visiting Civil War weekend

    • Beaver Byte says:
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      So might College GameDay. The odds seem good with OSU being one of the best stories of the 2012 season. This year, OSU has a fightin’ chance. If we can really get motivated with a overflowing MU quad and a national audience that would love to see us beat Oregon, we have a legit shot.

      Rule #1 for whoever is Benny: Don’t let the Duck steal the show by doing all the dance moves while you are sittin’ back watchin’. Be energetic, have a gameplan and execute a GameDay worthy performance that shines a national spotlight on Benny and OSU. If you have to, push the Duck away and change the focus if he starts tryin’ to show off. Can’t let him be doing that by the OSU seal at the the middle of the quad. Haven’t you seen Rebel Without a Cause? The seal is sacred ground.

      • PdX says:
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        Lets not count our chickens before the eggs hatch. Lets just take care of UW.

  • JD says:
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    Uneventful trip up to Seattle. Passed quite a few rigs with Beaver stickers headed north. This team played their most complete game last season at Clink, hope to see it again tomorrow.

  • ncaa_viOlation ncaa_viOlation says:
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    Wow. Marcus Lattimore of south Carolina just had one of the most gruesome knee injuries ive seen. I had a hard time watching the replay. You could see what looked like a complete dislocation and the bone was nearly popping through the skin. my kids Will never play football. Best of luck o him. hope it looked worse than it was

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