07.Aug.2013 Practice Report

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Via Bone:

I was able to make it to practice today, here some things that I saw.
As far as any changes to the offense there was a little read option being ran as well as quarterback shovel pass similar to BYU ran quite a bit on us last season, and a couple new ways to set up screen passes, which looked good and went for some big yards.

Vaz vs. Mannion

Mannion got first reps and worked the first group all day (I think it has been that way all week) and looked awesome, especially passes to the boundaries, really strong well placed throws. He did have one pass that I think slipped out of his hand, trying to hit Obum deep but the ball was a dead duck that landed about 15 yards short of Obum. But other than that he picked apart the defense. Vaz looked really good also he was a little more inaccurate on the wide receiver screens. He has really good anticipation, but his passes to the boundaries had less zip and accuracy than Mannion’s. After watching today I think Sean is winning the position battle, he was really, really sharp. Vanderveen and Kempt still have a ways to go before they reach Mannion and Vaz. Vanderveen did throw a pick 6 in team though.

Wide Receivers

Brandin Cooks is a STUD. I’ll just leave it at that. Besides Cooks, Cummings, was getting a lot of separation even against the top corners/safeties on the team and beat them in a lot of different ways. Micah Hatfield is looking good; he made some really nice catches, especially in tight coverage. During team drills Gilmore was getting the first reps over Gwatcum and Mullaney, but did not perform well. On back to back plays Brennen came running out and yelling at him to do better. Obum looked really good, but he has been that way the last couple years, I did see and dropped passes from him. He did “pants” Larry Scott after an interception, which was pretty funny. Nothing earth shattering from Mullaney, just did what he does. Bolding looks like De’Antothony Thomas and runs similar to him; we need to finds ways to get him the ball. Hunter Jarmon looked good, almost made an incredible diving catch, but just couldn’t hold on.

Tight Ends

This is a nice looking group. All of them are big, athletic, and look comfortable catching the ball. Caleb Smith’s body has changed from last year; he trimmed down quite a bit and looks a lot more athletic. The guy from Dayton Hayden Craig looks to be a blocking tight end, he was the least athletic out of the group. Hamlet was looked fine also.
Running Backs
I didn’t see a ton of this group. Haskins is already built to be a college running back, much bigger than Storm, Ward, and Chris Brown. Woods does look bigger and he was noticeably quicker than last year. All the backs looked good catching the ball except for the 3rd full back #42. Tyler Anderson was playing full speed and did not appear limited by the giant brace he had on. He did however sit out the last part of practice with ice on knee, but I think that was just precautionary. And standing next to Lyle Moevao, you can’t tell the two apart. And the last couple times I have gone to practice they have tried running a running back pass with Terron Ward, but he can’t throw at all, it was embarrassing.

Offensive Line

I am not very good at analyzing or getting a good look on who is in. Didn’t see anything alarming.

Defensive Backs

Reynolds is very good, and fast. He won several 1 on 1’s, he ran stride for stride and broke up a perfectly thrown deep ball intended for Cooks. Sean Martin got beat all day, embarrassed by Cooks and Cummings. It does not help that he has to leave practice to go to class either. Steven Nelson is going to win this job; he had great coverage all day. He had come great battles with Micah Hatfield, he had perfect coverage a majority of plays. After what I saw today I would be shocked if he didn’t over take Martin. I haven’t seen or heard much of Larry Scott (not commissioner) but he was running with the second unit and played well, he is not very big.

Linebackers

I didn’t see a ton of individual drills with this group either, but some interesting stuff. Alexander and Doctor are good to go, nothing stood out to me, positive or negative, with Skotte (He did pick off Vanderveen). The freshman Greer is a very, VERY small linebacker, but he gets to the ball in a hurry and is good in coverage (nearly picked off Vaz). A fight broke out between I believe Kellen Clute and Darrell Songy. I don’t know what started it, but Songy was really fired up about something and was yelling “Let’s goOOooo!) they were doing 1 on 1 drills and then punches started to fly. Then it got defused and everything was fine again.
I didn’t get a good look at the defensive line, they were inside most of practice, but the Devla and Hautau both are big. No sign of Pecko though. During Team there weren’t huge holes for the running backs to run through so I guess they are doing fine now.

Special Teams

First thing I saw was Romaine hit from 45+ with ease. He was really short on a 57 yarder, but I think that was to practice the coverage if a field gets returned. Didn’t see any punters.

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  • Mike says:
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    This kind of scoop is so needed. Thank you. Any real word on Peko? Lot of rumors. Got to think he didn’t qualify but hoping for best. Have heard coaches really like Bennett Jackson, but he is still a little light, hopefully he is active. Braun should never see the field

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Peko tweeted something earlier today to the effect of him being at the mercy of this one last online class still. Sounds like the grade hasn’t come through yet. Since finals week for him was last week, his grades won’t likely be available until tomorrow at the earliest. Then he has to get permission from the NCAA which could take some time too. The good news is he’s on campus and it sounds like he’s working out still, just not with the team yet.

      • helmsley says:
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        Since it’s an online class, isn’t it at the mercy of electronic grading? Better imho if it had been a people class in which case the teacher//professor could have fudged a grade, if so inclined, to let Peko get on with his life.

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          No, he is not at the mercy of electronic grading unless all assignments and tests were completed via true/false and multiple guess format.
          Online classes are still taught by real teachers who still require reading, writing, feedback, etc.

          • helmsley says:
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            thanks, I was thinking in terms of true/false and multiple guess. Regardless, I guess we’ll know Peko’s status b4 too long.Poor guy, we seem to be focussing on the team, but he’s going through a lot, personally.

  • SalemBeav says:
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    Thanks for the first in-depth coverage ( o-live included ). Hopefully they have found or find their “identity” soon.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Riley day 3 post practice interview video. He touches on the Juco DT’s and their eligibility. Hard to tell from his body language what he’s thinking, but it does make me worry a little.

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/college-football/2013-fall-camp-coach-riley-day-3-1117465

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    From Will’s dad: “Nice write up but did you forget to mention a certain standout freshman from Texas?”

  • Firebeav says:
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    Watching interviews on youtube and beaverblitz, both Cooks and Reynolds mentioned going undefeated and Cooks even said national championships were his goal for the season. This may be lofty but I love the shift in attitude and I honestly feel like this team can compete with anybody

    • angry angry says:
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      Sadly the run defense stinks again so those goals are out.

      • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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        Do you think the run D stunk last year? Do you think it’ll be the same this year, or worse?

      • HopefulBeav says:
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        Lol stinks again? There were only two teams in the PAC 12 with statistically better run defenses last year.

      • bone says:
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        Last season we were good, but they have to find a way to stop or at least slow down oregon before that goal can be reached.

      • angry angry says:
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        Yeah, and statistically unemployment is 7% and GDP is 3%.

        The only good run D they played last year was vs Wisconsin. They were actually in the backfield stuffing the back. They got gutted down the stretch (Cal, Stanford, Oregon). I do think they should be better without Rueben Robinson involved. Want to see how the DT situation pans out.

        • HopefulBeav says:
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          You can’t be serious. 3rd behind Stanford (enough said) and Utah (didnt play oregon or Stanford and had the best DT in the nation). Not to mention they played 3 of the 4 1st and 2nd team All American running backs.

        • Smizni says:
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          You mean the Stanford game where we held them under their season average? The Cal game where they we 8 yards above their season average and won by 48? What is your definition of gutted?

        • ObjCritic says:
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          The back half of this year’s schedule is brutal for a Beavers team with suspect run defense:

          Stanford, USC, ASU, UW, and Oregon.

          It’s not just their RBs, it’s the offensive lines Stanford, USC, and Oregon will field. If Beavers starters don’t hold up, the depth will be telling.

          I saw one prediction that had OSU closing the season losing all of these games, and at first I thought it absurd, now I think its a possibility. I see USC and UW as OSU’s best chance at victory in that stretch.

          Then there’s always the “Riley Factor,” i.e. last year’s loss at UW.

  • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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    Thanks for the observations! Good stuff.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Sounding like Bolden and Jarmon may be spot-duty speed guys that add an extra threat and make thing happen, whether they have the ball or they’re taking attention away from a teammate.

    I hope Bolden is a quick study with good hands and at least gets to run the fly sweep.

    One or both of these guys on the field with Cooks, and somebody is going to be wide open on a given play. Offensively, this could be a very entertaining team to watch.

    • bone says:
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      Boldin was getting the most reps out of all the freshman during the team session. I didn’t see much fly sweep being ran, but it’s only day 4.

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    Go Beavs!

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Rosa quoted by Eggers as saying, “I haven’t seen the team work that hard in all the years I’ve been here,” he says. “Extra stuff, big and little, all summer long.

    “The goal is to go to the Rose Bowl. Another goal is to be in unison — play together as a team, bonding. If we can play as a team, we can win as a team.”

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/158567-osu-has-hole-where-d-tackle-should-be

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Former Beaver Andy Levitre makes S-I’s “All Underrated Team.” Some pretty impressive stats for him, I didn’t realize he was performing at that high of a level in the pros. He was rewarded with a very nice FA contract from the Titans.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/photos/1308/nfl-all-underrated-team/10/

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    A little off topic, but I found this interesting.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/23070728/ncaa-to-exit-business-of-selling-school-related-online-items

    Long story short, if you tried searching the NCAA Fan shop website last week for the word Manziel (among other player’s names) you would be sent to pages selling Texas A&M jerseys with Manziel’s number on them. This has been going on for years. They got called out for it with Tebo a few years back and they removed his jersey temporarily, but obviously the practice of attaching search engine names to jersey was still going on. Jay Bilas called them out again in an article this week because of the Manziel story being in the news, and now the NCAA has decided they will cease to continue to sell any school’s merchandise at their fan shop.

    They’re totally gonna get screwed in this Ed O’Bannon lawsuit.

  • beavers4life says:
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    I know I’ll get -points for this comment, but I don’t care…I don’t think it’s a good idea to mention stuff the offensive unit is trying to instill e.g. half back pass, read option, etc. because we don’t want opponents to think, oh, they could be running a read option play at a random point in the game when they’re in need of a spark…

    Idk, I understand why you want to know that, but at the same time, it’s courtesy to not state it on a blog. all you could have said was, They’re working on new misdirection plays and trick plays….cause that’s unlike Riley to do those, but it doesn’t lead into WHAT those plays are. again, just me.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      It’s open practice, so I don’t think it matters if someone writes it in a blog.

    • Jack says:
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      So you’re saying it’s bad if our opposition wastes a block of time they could be using working on our primary offense so they can cover possible misdirection plays… even if we never never ever run one of those different plays in a game… ever… just because the opposition happened to read a blog describing something about it?

      I sure am glad the coaches agree with you and have made practices super secret and closed.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Yeah, I was laughing while reading Blitz or Scout, and the author “would not disclose new offensive plays or personnel involved.” Yeah, at an open practice….

        • Jack says:
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          I’m reminded of Vince Lombardi and how he never made films describing the power sweep, piece by piece, detail by detail… for fear someone might figure him out.

    • Bill says:
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      Any coach reading message boards (or having someone monitor) is probably about to get fired.

    • osbeavs says:
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      Even if a team knows that a read-option is in our playbook, you can’t possibly prepare for a play that is rarely run. That is the point of having the play. A team can know it is in your playbook but being called at an unpredictable time allows the offensive coordinator to catch the defense on their heels.

      • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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        My first thought on hearing that Riley has tossed a read option play into practice, was that he was just foxing opposing teams…. great ploy, imo. And if the guys can make it work, toss it in for real on occasion. My second thought was how in hell could Mannion make one work…..

        • ean says:
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          I wouldn’t be surprised if the read option is more so that the defense can see the look.

      • beavers4life says:
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        So you mean Riley and Langsdorf…stop me if I’m wrong here…would actually call a play that would be unpredictable in a game? I thought their game plan is to run plays the opposition KNOW are coming? (sarcasm)

        In otherwords…my main point is not that this blog is or isn’t monitored by opponents, but it’s the fact that BeaverBlitz and O-Live shouldn’t give any detail as to the extent of what Bone spoke of in his write up. e.g. RB can’t throw, read option needs work, etc.

        I realize the practices are open practices, but on the same level, do you really think opponents will hire someone to go to colleges to watch their open practices to see if they’re practicing different palys and look at the formations, etc. It’s easier and cheaper for opponents to look up fan sites and local papers/blogs to see if anyone would give anything away. That’s my point…don’t make it easy for them, make them work or pay a little bit for that information.

        • Jack says:
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          This is such a non-issue, it’s ridiculous. Everyone (except bielema) provides tape to their opponents. That tape tells more of a story than even the biggest wrinkle a blog observer could relay.

          I’m fully in the camp of, “This is who we are and what we’re going to do. Now beat us.”

          To me, the alternative is we’re thinking we’re mediocre, and we need a couple sneaky things to make us look slightly better than mediocre in the end. Everyone has trick/misdirection/wrinkle plays. When they’re used are more important than our opponent knowing we have them.

  • Dwill03 Dwill03 says:
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    Glad Mannion is asserting himself as the more consistent/dominant qb. Here’s to hoping the coaches see things the same as bone (as well as the new olive blogger), mannion does well enough to be named the starter by the beginning of next week, and we can move on. If he realizes his potential early this year then this team can do some big things in 13′ and 14′. My expectations would begin to spiral out of control.

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    Oregon State’s new unis got a new national review and the grades are in. Not sure how one of the main elements of the rebrand plans got axed and is instead hiding inside of shoes.

    Oregon State New Uniform Preview:
    http://beaverbyte.com

    #TheGradesAreIn #RebrandUnfinished

  • quiksgroove says:
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    Mike Riley on Jim Rome this morning.

    http://jimrome.com/audio/1691-the-jim-rome-show/mike-riley/

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Did MR go Jim Everett on him and punch him in the face?

      • Jack says:
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        Even if MR hit someone, it wouldn’t be because he got mad at anyone or that anyone (even Rome) would ever take the time to attack him.

        It would be because they were standing in the wrong place during hip-hip-hoorays.

        And I can imagine the person who was accidentally hit apologizing to Riley for bruising his knuckles.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        I think you mean Chris Everett

        • BizBeav says:
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          For your viewing pleasure….I forgot about this interview:

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    We have visitor for the Hawaii game

    @DamonSayles
    #GoBeavs fans, the 1st official visit for OL Cole Anderson (@Cole_Anderson70) comes to you. Said he’ll visit Sept. 6: http://es.pn/Z0e6yx

    I have updated him in the recruiting forum
    http://angrybeavs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=418&p=2101#p2101

    Also 4star WR recruit Jalen Brown has been added there too, he is scheduled to visit Oct 25th (Stanford game). Sounds like we have a good shot at this heavily recruited player.

  • bone says:
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    Mike Riley ?@Coach_Riley 23s
    Great day of football at Oregon State! It’s a great day to be a Beaver!!! #GoBeavs

    This just in.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      GUESS: Ryan Nall who visited with Connor Humphries today at practice.

  • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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    @DamonSayles
    MT “@skhanjr 3-star OL NaJee Toran committed to Oregon State tonight. Had 8 offers: http://es.pn/13KHhLR #GoBeavs #txhsfb”

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      Short and light. This kid is a project. Offer list is not really great. MR should have tweeted # it’s a so so day to be a Beaver.

      • progressivebeav says:
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        A “project”? I don’t think that’s accurate, looks like a decent get for a Riley recruit. The BSU and TCU offers are okay. Reminds me of Josh Andrews.

      • Bill says:
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        Both starting guards Andrews and Enger came in as frosh under 260 each. It’ll probably be at least 4 years from now until this kid hits the field. More than enough time to gain the weight and gain it the right way.

      • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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        He has two other really good offers in TCU (home state) and Boise. TAMU looked very hard at him, and brought him back on their second day of camp, however, the Aggies have a pretty full class and can get guys who fit the measureables now. So, they still might be in the picture come February.

    • Jack says:
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      Kid’s got a nasty streak. And he has great hands and feet. Listed at 6’3″, 260# and playing at LT with jersey #79. He’ll probably end up here around 280#+ as a frosh.
      http://www.hudl.com/athlete/530956/highlights/17391552

      He’s not the plodding o-line prospect who has just filled in a roster spot on this team in the past. He’s quite athletic and technical.

    • HopefulBeav says:
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      Nice! I love the depth we’ve been adding to the o line over the past few seasons and I especially love this little Texas pipeline we’ve got going.

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    Tickets came last night. I like the new presentation. A spiral bound book with all the usual parking info, vendor location maps, shuttle maps, etc all in one package.
    They also upgraded the quality of the BASF, I mean “Our Beaver Nation” member ID card.

    And….. say “I love beaver nation” to the folks running the concession stand #111 and they’ll give you $1 a cinnamon sugar beaver tail!!!!!!

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      saw that too about the cinnamon sugar beaver tail. That sounds delicious. I’m picturing an elephant ear/churro hybrid. Have they sold these before?

      One thing missing is the free room at Spirit Mountain. I need to get my yearly fix of smokey, depressing time watching peoples’ Social Security checks go down the drain. If I’m lucky, maybe I could take in a Whitesnake concert while there.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT but Wheaton write-ups make him sound like he’s doing extremely well in camp:

    http://pit.scout.com/2/1314324.html

    • Jack says:
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      That’s because he is.

      He is a known quantity in Steelers camp now. It is assumed by the coaching staff (not the media) that he will be the third WR in a matter of minutes. Even Tomlin doesn’t parse words when talking about him. He’s setting expectations like Wheaton’s some seasoned FA signing.

      They now know they got a steal, and they’re not going to waste time benching him just because he’s a rookie.

  • Jack says:
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    Here you go angry:
    http://wfscjobs.tamu.edu/jobs/passerine-nest-searchers-nw-oregon/

    • Jack says:
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      It actually sounds like a lot of fun… work too, but fun.

    • angry angry says:
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      Nice.
      I actually got a bird job at OSU once, but got a better offer a few days before starting and ditched the Beavs! It sounded cool…you slept overnight in this tree fort and looked for owls.

      • WFO WFO says:
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        You hafta hoot at em if you want to find owls. My Dad was a USFS wildlife biologist for 35 years. He was the spotted owl guru at oakridge RD and was the endangered species coordinator for the Olympic National Forest before he retired.

        Needless to say I’ve seen grown ass men hooting at owls in the dark as shit mountains more times than I can count. Had my tower buzzed by horned owls a few times too, those bastards get big.

        • Jack says:
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          Great horned can terrify you if you don’t know they’re watching you.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    DJ Alexander just posted an instagram video of some of the guys getting into the ice bath after practice. Not sure which player it is, but one of the guys throws in the 5 knuckle shuffle hand motion during the video. So funny the things these guys decide to post for all to see.

    http://instagram.com/p/czpKxVxCOz/#

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      LOL, I believe he is rolling dice with hand, like in craps. But we know where your head is.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Maybe so. Hard to tell in that context which gesture would be more appropriate.

        • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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          It was a dice move, but understandable that you thought it was something different when you saw all those topless dudes.

  • CraigBeav says:
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    How do we stack up against USC this year? If we beat them, it’ll mean we can say USC didn’t win a game in Corvallis for a whole friggin decade. And that’s good thing, because fuck USC. Also, FTD.

    Go Beavs!

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      Really hard to say anything about USC because nobody has seen much of whoever will end up being their starting QB. I think I read Wittek is in the lead but haven’t really paid much attention. On top of that, they shuffled their staff during the offseason and have several new assistants. I could see them starting out slow, but their first 4 games are all “warm up” games before they play ASU. Also, they don’t have to play Oregon this year. I see the winner of ASU/USC taking the South this year. UCLA would normally be my choice, but they will lose to Oregon this year and get knocked back in the standings.

      Head to head, I think USC would be smart to run on us, but you just know Kiffin will want to air it out, regardless of who’s playing QB. If that happens, OSU wins. If USC sticks to the ground and controls time of possession, I think they’ll take it.

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      OSU can beat USC. Home game, Friday night (?), Kiffin under-coaches, OSU has the offense. Its not a sure thing, but it’s a real possibility and competitiveness should be assured.

      If it happens, perhaps a sign with 10 flaccid (and empty) condoms dangling from it: “Reser: Where Trojans Go to Die.”

      But I suppose that would have many potential interpretations….

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    Another commit today?

    Mike Riley ?@Coach_Riley 38s

    Great day here at Oregon State! Football, water balloons, and the Pac-12! It’s a great day to be a Beaver! #GoBeavs

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    From Angie:
    Oregon State picks up a commitment Fri. afternoon from Portland (Ore) Central Catholic MLB Ryan Nall http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregonstate/football/recruiting/player-Ryan-Nall-153832;_ylt=ArWyNSdOscmAqMpWyOqJo_ZKtZB4

    I just posted him in the Recruiting forum
    http://angrybeavs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=433

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    Jim Wilson to be on am750 in PDX at 5:40 today.

    Edit: My takeaways from Big Jim:
    -Murphy and Zimmerman could be the glue that holds the D together.
    -Creighton will get lots of attention from the opposition and will have to work hard to equal last years performance.
    -Wilson seemed to think the problems in the middle of the D won’t be so bad; thinks teams will still work the edges and not focus on the middle. Not sure I feel the same.
    -He thinks Mannion is the guy, pointed out that three games accounted for nearly all his picks.

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    great interviews, many with brennan and wr’s.
    http://www.kezi.com/web-extra-beavers-bomb-balloons-at-camp/

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      Note to OSU sports media; get Hautau some interview training or keep him off camera…that’s one big deer in the headlights.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/08/oregon_state_football_fullback.html

    The new guy at O-live talks about Tyler Anderson’s return from surgery. Noteworthy, to me at least, were the encouraging quotes from Woods and Ward. I take these as indications of the kind of team chemistry which was such a factor last season. I’d like to see the FB team match the Baseball team in “all for one” attitude.

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    I don’t understand a word, but I can’t get this friggin’ song out of my head.
    https://soundcloud.com/vasuda/hai-apna-dil-vocal-looping

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    Heard Malik Gilmore will be moving to the slot receiver position, I thought he was already there?

    It sounds like in the interviews that Obum is leading but getting pushed by Mullaney. Sounds like he is having his best camp. Gotta do it in the game though. Also, hearing a TON about Victor Bolden, I don’t know where he is on the depth chart, but he sounds like he has been very impressive, can he learn the playbook fast enough to get unto the field? Really like the depth there. He could be a returner too.

    Really need Mannion to separate from the competition, if he has a good year we should be very good.

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    Also hearing David Keller retiring due to his sixith concussion. We must be down to 80 schollies now.

    • angry angry says:
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      Damn. Keller looked like a good one.

    • beaverkman beaverkman says:
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      probably won’t lose his schollie, just down to 80 schollie players,

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Can’t blame him for that. It is too bad though. Agree he looked like a very good addition to an improving line.

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