24.Jan.2014 Danny Langsdorf to the Giants

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Hearing it’s a done deal.

So how about we discuss some replacements from both NFL and college. I wouldn’t oppose giving Brent Brennan a shot.

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Please someone hire Banker, please someone hire Banker, please someone hire Banker, please someone hire Banker……………………………………..

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  • whatever says:
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    Fascinating.

    As an OC, he’s a great QB coach.

  • bone says:
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    Really wish Jonathan Smith was still available…..

    I am curious to see which way the coaching staff decides to go.

  • HopefulBeav says:
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    I was just going to say too bad we weren’t proactive about going after Jonathan Smith. Now he’ll probably just promote cavanaugh or something.

  • Jack says:
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    As I said in the previous thread, Riley will likely do his water routine and find the easiest path. That means Locey. Or that means we go a slightly less easy route and yet again hire Linfield’s Joe Smith. I’m okay with Smith if not for the fact that he’s someone different. And he has experience as a DC, which I think rounds him out as a coach.

    But I have a certain name in mind.

    • whatever says:
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      But I have a certain name in mind.

      Let’s hear it.

      • Jack says:
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        If you haven’t already heard it umpteen times, then you don’t get that quote.

        • Jack says:
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          I’ll make it easy.

          This is who Jack wants… and has wanted as OC for about three years now.
          http://uwwsports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=703

          • angry says:
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            Yes

          • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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            Jack, the UW-W head coach would never consider moving or even visiting to Corvallis. Maybe we could get one of Urban Meyer’s illegitimate kids? Dickface.

            • Jack says:
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              Why not Dickface? He would get three times the salary and a path to higher hires.

              Why do you sign off as Dickface?

              • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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                Just envision the words “Jack is a” in front of each use of the word dickface, and maybe it will make more sense to you.

                • Jack says:
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                  I think if you wanted to say that you would have done so in the first place Dickface. It all made sense to me in the first place. I think it’s you who needs some sense.

                  • Jack says:
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                    Come on Duckie. You have to have something better than proving that you’re really a stupid fuck.

        • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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          The funny thing is, you’ve been nursing your worker’s comp injury claim for umpteen years, and you tool around all day surrounded by your umpteen cats. Dickface.

          • Jack says:
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            Again, why do you sign off as Dickface? That’s just kinda weird.

            I mean… we’ll accept you for who you are. But you signing off as Dickface leaves a lot of unanswered questions that would have never been asked in the first place.

    • bone says:
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      I heard a possibility of promoting Brennen to OC around the twittersphere.

      • Jack says:
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        Yet another promotion from within in the Pac?

        Easy is as easy does.

        I like Brennan just fine. And I love his recruiting energy. Would he instantly balance the offense? Would he bring a proven competitive spirit to the job?

        I wouldn’t bet against him. But I want certain things that are known about the new OC. I want him to be a fit. I want him to be known as a coach who values the family atmosphere in a team. I want a coach who is so damn competitive it oozes from his players each and every week.

        Like I said, I wouldn’t bet against Brennan having those capabilities. If there are deficiencies in his tenure thus far, maybe that’s due to Riley/Langs beating his pupils to death in terms of scheme. But I want someone who has a wholistic view in charge of this offense for once. I don’t need o be asking questions about whether or not my new OC is just toeing the HC’s line.

        • angry says:
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          Brennen would probably be fine, but it’s not a very exciting move, which is exactly why Riley will do it.

          • Beavergopher says:
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            He should bring in somebody from outside. Too much inbreeding on this staff. It’s like a town picnic in West Virginia. We need an infusion of new ideas.

            • Jack says:
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              That was my point.

              We need someone who is dedicated to beating down the opposition with a balanced attack and has proven he knows how to do so. He also needs to be proven. That’s what a Pac position requires. We need someone proven and hard.

              No offense to Brennan, but he has a couple years of being a proven OC on the non-BCS level before I accept him as someone worthy of my team’s OC position.

              He might succeed here as the OC given that it’s really Riley calling the shots. But since Riley has come out and said he sucks at calling the shots, doesn’t it make sense that OSU would go outside and find someone who was proven to be successful in this task?

            • angry says:
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              Agree. Their kids are going to have hemophilia at this rate.

    • BlindSquirrel says:
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      Do Brennan, Brasfield, or Perry ring a bell? Those weren’t easiest path hires and all were home runs. Don’t let facts get in the way of being such a Debbie Downer.

      • Jack says:
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        Brasfield was a home run? Brennan wasn’t a derivative of a scheme which was pass heavy?

        I can’t get down on Perry since the front seven didn’t do squat this last year.

        But Brennan’s only success thus far gas been due to Wheaton and Cooks… and nothing else.

        … unless you have some facts we don’t know about.

        • BlindSquirrel says:
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          I’m not just talking about coaching. It’s called recruiting and if you’ve followed it at all you know these guys have been great.

          • Jack says:
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            Have they?

            Have they really?

          • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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            yup. they’ve been awesome with the loads of 1 and 2 star talent on the roster.

          • Jack says:
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            And the point was that coaching is much more important at this position. Perry was an awesome hire under these parameters. But he was hired as a position coach, not a coordinator.

            Some positions require some gravitas.

          • Jack says:
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            And you were the one who brought up facts.

            Bring ‘em.

  • Jack says:
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    On a side note, I think what Coughlin has done with the new offensive coaching hires is pretty brilliant stuff. I still like Langs as a QB coach who could do some damage in the future if he ever broadened his vision. Now he gets to do that broadening thing.

  • watching practice... says:
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    Take Read with him , then OSU could pay more $$$ for a good as a OC….

  • watching practice... says:
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    …..and some kick ass recruiters

  • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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    Ding dong the Dorf is dead, the dipshit Dorf is dead!

    • Jack says:
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      Maybe we can hire Don Pellum?

    • angry says:
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      Would you dickfaces get a hotel already?

      We finally get rid of Langsdork and this is how you celebrate? By calling each other inbred dickfaces 20 times? Come on! Go grab a beer or something.

      • Jack says:
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        I have a beer.

        I’m just wondering why he signs off as Dickface on every post. If he wants to own it, he should just make that his monicker.

        Then again, he’s owned it already.

  • Beavblazer says:
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    Sean Mannion’s greatest achievment to date is getting an NFL team to think Danny is an NFL calibur QB coach. Thanks Sean!

    • Jack says:
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      I hadn’t thought of that.

      Mannion would be an excellent fit for the NYG as the back-up for a couple years.

      Say what you want about Mannion. His abilities are NFL quality. All it takes is for him to be there in his mind. Sitting behind a solid QB and learning the game is what almost all great QBs have done.

      The NFL will not go to a running QB scheme. The athletes on D are just too big and strong for anyone to reasonably buy an umpteen million dollar contract only to watch it waste away in a poor slide or an attempt to get a couple extra yards. They have about a four year window to get a team wrapped around a QB who scrambles, then it all falls apart. And that’s just for the one or two QBs who can even do that beyond college. Mannion has an innate ability to move within the pocket. That can make him deadly on the college level and more than proficient on the next level.

      We may see both in our lifetimes.

      • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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        Mannion to the Giants, huh? An innate ability to move in the pocket? Have you ever watched him play? Dickface.

        • Jack says:
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          I have watched him play.

          Why do you keep calling yourself Dickface?

        • oneoldbeav says:
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          I watched Mannion successfully demonstrate that “innate ability to move in the pocket” during his first several games; seems to me his injury and the coaching of Langs limited his willingness to use/develop that ability further as time has gone on.

          • Jack says:
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            Or the refusal to try to run allowed better teams to pin their ears back instead of guessing on each play.

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              Certainly applies to the ’13 season, ’12….not as much.
              Point is, I agree on the “innate ability” thing.

  • BlindSquirrel says:
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    I vote for:

    1) Mike Johnson
    2) Slick Rick

    • Jack says:
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      Johnson would just be another inbred hire. Slick Rick should never be taken away from his guitar and all that entails.

      • BlindSquirrel says:
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        Both are great recruiters and that is CRITICAL for the next hire. Riley has hit home runs on his last four hires (Brennan, Brasfield, Perry, Bray) so there’s reason to be optimistic.

        • Jack says:
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          Yes, but by Riley’s own admission he sucks at OC. Don’t we need someone who is proven to be a capable play-caller first?

      • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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        Jack, you and your entire family are inbred. Surprised you don’t like the idea. Dickface.

        • Jack says:
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          You are incorrect Dickface.

          Is that your name? Or do you you just sign off on weak burns with that name?

    • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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      Mike Johnson? How about no. His offenses in SF and FUCLA were not terrible

  • Jack says:
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    WBB beats UW. Hopefully this carries on as an infectious condition to our men.

  • Beavblazer says:
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    Didnt Erickson get demoted at Utah last month from his OC job? Thought he was miffed about that and he likes him some Corvallis. Would he work under Riley? Are we all hoping for some new blood instead?

    • Jack says:
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      Not a bad call there. I don’t know if the two styles mesh though.

      • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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        Dennis Erickson? Hahahahaha

        • Jack says:
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          It could be worse. It could be Bellotti.

          What a clusterfuck that would be.

          • whiskeysoakednapkins says:
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            he’s already taken his name out of the running

          • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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            Mike Bellotti? Dickface.

            • Jack says:
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              You need a different sign-off.

              Dickface is demeaning, and I don’t care how stupid you are, you shouldn’t be calling yourself that.

              • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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                Sorry for the confusion, Jack, but your confusion doesn’t surprise anyone who has read any of your 60,000,000+ comments on this site. I’m calling you dickface. But carry on. You obviously have nothing else to do. Except for emptying litter boxes, that is. Jack/dickface.

                • Jack says:
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                  Oh.

                  Sorry.

                  I was thinking you were writing in English.

                  My mistake.

                  • Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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                    Jesus and I thought I was the odd dick around here for eating napkins?

              • Beavergopher says:
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                Erickson and Riley? Otis the drunk and Barney Fife. Mama Muchado as Aunt Bea.

                • Beavblazer says:
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                  Yet Riley somehow works well with Coach Cav. I see more similarities with Cav and Erickson than Riley and either one of those 2 guys.

                • rsteve503 says:
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                  ….and OSU makes big money and reaps the notariety for being the site of filming the new hit tv series….BEAVERS!!

  • Mb says:
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    New blood please.

  • angry says:
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    Neuheisel is an interesting name. Great recruiter…he’d help a ton there. Not sure he’d even consider Corvallis, though. He’s a big city guy.

    • Jack says:
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      Or… he’s a flake.

    • Kristick Whiffs Again says:
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      Zero chance Neuheisel comes to Corvallis unless he is being paid to.

      • Jack says:
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        I nominate this as the brilliant statement of the year.

      • Whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        A paid offensive coordinator? I had no idea such a position existed. Thanks for enlightening us with your wisdom

    • Beavergopher says:
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      MR should try to poach Jonathan Smith from UW before he settles in.
      Is there somebody on the Stanford staff that could be considered?
      Another coach available is Don Treadwell. Failed as a HC at Miami, but a pretty good OC
      at Michigan State. From the Jim Tressel coaching tree and runs a pro style, balanced attach.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    This is good news indeed!

    I think Leipold is the most interesting candidate and agree somebody from outside would probably be healthy for the program. It appears to me that Leipold is comfortable in smaller environments, and I imagine the “family atmosphere” at corvallis would be attractive to him. I would love BDC to contact him and see if the step up to DI would be attractive enough reason, and Corvallis a good setting, for him to move. The guy has nothing left to prove at that level or at that school. Ideally, after OC, he’d become a HC candidate.

    I expect Brennan would bring a great deal of energy and competitiveness, but I wonder if its of the intensity Jack writes?I agree – SOMEBODY on staff has to have that. Schnell and others say Riley has that competitiveness and it eats at him to lose and we don’t appreciate it or understand it, but Riley himself has said it’s not just about winning, and if it is, you have to go to USC or Alabama…. I remember when Chow was OC and USC was rolling; he was a cold-blooded surgeon; dialing up the next series after scoring on a big play, not celebrating, wanting more. I’d like to see someone like that.

    I wonder about Brennan’s strategic approaches, including in-game adjustments, but there’s no body of work(?) upon which to judge that aspect of his coaching capacity.

    Will riley take as much time as he did hiring Perry?

    Good news, good news. A few impressive recruiting surprises would add nicely to this off season development, but I won’t hold my breath.

    Is anybody going to contact BDC and tell him about Leipold?

  • beaverkman says:
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    Just getting caught up on this news. That is really out of left field.

    I am excited and scared at the same time.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    BTW, is Langs going to an extreme change in environment or what? Laid back Riley, Corvallis, water balloon fights, 6-win season goals, friendly beat writers like Schnell….now New York. Maybe as QB coach he doesn’t get a lot of media inquiries or pressure, and the team will obviously have staff to manage media, but what a change…

    • GOBeavs says:
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      I imagine as a position coach you don’t talk to the media basically ever.

      I do find it funny to see him going from coaching Moevao/Canfield/Mannion to Eli Manning…

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      You left out…..never be fired. Buddy of a head coach with a long term contract…..pretty sweet.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Damn. A great hire would have been Bob Bostad, the former run game coordinator and O-line coach at Wisconsin. Just hired yesterday by the Titans as their O-Line coach.

  • Bill says:
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    David Yost is a guy who should get a look. Former OC at Mizzou before burning out. Surfaced at WSU as an asst wr coach.

    Good coach and potential to be a head coach in the future. Good recruiter too. Landed Dorial Green Beckham at mizzou.

    http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/yost_david00.html

    http://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2013/8/13/4618418/david-yost-wsu-cougars-football-washington-state

  • angry says:
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    If anyone has suggestions for Riley, his email is: mike.riley@oregonstate.edu

    I’m going to suggest Leipold.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    The job posting from the OSU Athletic Dept for the OC position states “duties include organ donation.”

  • Kc says:
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    Doesn’t anyone think that it will likely be Locey? That is my best guess. Wasn’t he a successful head coach? I’ve heard talk that he will replace riley.

    • Jack says:
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      Yup… the old boy’s network giveth for once. So why not assume the old boy’s network will immediately taketh away?

      It’s what I expect because it’s lazy and short-sighted.

      Hey! Why don’t we just promote Gary Beck? If nothing else, I would love to be at the first practice just to see what Beck would say to Cav and his potty mouth. Oh Gary, you prude you.

  • BlindSquirrel says:
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    Hearing that this move was orchestrated by Riley. Interesting…

    • Jack says:
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      That is interesting if true.

      Hmmm….

    • osbeavs says:
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      Not sure if Riley is capable of it but, this was one of my first thoughts. It seems like Riley is constantly touting the offers that his staff receives (but they choose to stay). It seems like college OC to pro QB coach isn’t much of a jump. Why take the risk? I wonder if Riley basically told Langsdorf to take the next good job he is offered because he doesn’t want to fire him.

      • Jack says:
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        The options:

        A. It isn’t true.

        B. Riley has been setting up these dominoes for a while knowing Gilbride would resign and McAdoo would be hired. Then he said, “I love it when a plan comes together.”

        C. About a week after Gilbride resigned… and about a week before McAdoo was hired… Riley found out from sources that McAdoo would indeed be the front-runner for the NYG OC job. Having evaluated the offense at OSU and seeing that it has been stagnant for several years now despite identifying weaknesses from four and five years ago and addressing them with upgraded personnel, Rlley finally saw that a change needed to be made. No matter how good Langs is or isn’t, a fresh perspective is seen as necessary. So he talks to Eggers and falls on the sword for Langs. Then he works the old boy’s network to get Langs the new job, giving him the highest of recommendations and pointing to the conveniently recent and public seppuku he performed over play-calling duties.

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          Seems to me if Riley could orchestrate B or C, he would game plan better. But then, the personnel are “family” and the game, just a game….

  • ObjCritic says:
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    One reader at OLive suggest Tim Polasek, former O coordinator at NDSU (two national titles in three years) and now RB/TE coach at NIU:

    http://www.niutoday.info/2013/01/18/tim-polasek-to-coach-tight-ends-fullbacks/

  • Jack says:
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    I just had a “DUH!” moment.

    Kevin Gilbride is available. He can come settle down in Corvallis and hang out with his sister. I’d be willing to bet he can recruit a little just by walking into a house with two rings on and saying, “Yup… uhuh… see that one? I took that one away from Tom Brady.”

    • Beavergopher says:
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      Think Banker would punch him like Buddy Ryan?

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Only accidentally, when he’s doing “The Banker” on the sidelines, signalling in his “complex defensive schemes” that apparently result in his D over-thinking and giving up 49 to EWU….

        • osbeavs says:
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          I love “The Banker”! My friends and I have constant running jokes about the meaning of the signal but had not named it yet. We should start a contest to name that ridiculous signal.

          • ObjCritic says:
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            If I knew how to clip videos from the games, I’d love to take a bunch of those shots -interspersed with scoreboard shots? – and set them to a music…

          • ObjCritic says:
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            Potential names for the signal:

            “Surrender!”

            “Make way!”

            “I-have-no-fucking-idea-what-to-do-next!”

            “Run away!”

            “Pizza’s-on-me-after-the-game: Chucky-Cheeses!” (inspired by pettibonehead…)

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Pam Oliver. Now there was a hottie and a pioneer. Erin Andrews pales in comparison….

        I liked the run-n-shoot…

        • Beavergopher says:
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          Have you ever seen Pam in person? There is a reason they only show upper body shots.
          As my deceased dad used to say, “she has an ass an axe handle wide.”

          • ObjCritic says:
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            I was being sarcastic…though I did enjoy the run-n-shoot. Nobody won a super bowl with it, but it was fun to watch.

            • Beavergopher says:
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              Noted.

              • ObjCritic says:
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                And for too long, axe handles were the appropriate unit of measure for OSU gals…some, like Sara Jean Underwood, did a great job or reestablishing a new standard….

    • angry says:
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      Why did he retire? Burnt out or forced out? I haven’t read that story.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Connor’s piece in the O is head and shoulders above the report in the Gadget Times. He points out that Cav’s wife’s sister is married to recently retired Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride.

    Eggers seems preoccupied with the Blazers…surprised not a word from him yet.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I won’t be surprised if Eggers comes up with the most informative piece on Langsdorf move, but it could be nearly a week out.

  • angry says:
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    How about Lyle Moevao? Right after he graduated I said the Beavs should get him on staff…great personality for recruiting, and the all-time highest winning % of any OSU QB. Intriguing dark horse candidate.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Too inexperienced? I’d like to see him on staff, but not as OC yet.

    • osbeavs says:
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      I loved Lyle as a player but I am not sure that he has what it takes to coach. He had a couple of personality quirks that would begin to show.

      • oneoldbeav says:
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        OTOH, Lyle had a few personality quirks which, combined with Bray, could bring a passion for winning not often seen in Riley.

        I’m with ObjCritic, very hard to imagine Riley moving Lyle to OC, maybe QB coach but then Riley would probably have to retain OC duties for himself which he has said he doesn’t want to do.

    • Jack says:
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      And then when ESPN does a story on him, instead of him riding his bike to work he can drive a golf cart?

  • trhht says:
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    tim lappano’s available……………………………

  • BeaverBill says:
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    I vote for Ericson! That way we can call Riley and Ericson…. Thelma and Louise!

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