13.Jun.2017 More John Canzano Hypocrisy: Strip Club Sponsors His Radio Show

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John Canzano and the Oregonian continue to double and triple down on their Luke Heimlich hit piece. Today, Canzano beat a dead horse and posted yet another piece in which he seems to think that having a DA from Oregon, John Foote, on the program gives his staunch stance merit. The DA goes on to opine about how serious the crime was (nobody doubts this), and how it would be handled differently in Oregon. The very obvious logical flaw is that the crime didn’t happen in Oregon; it happened in Washington. So, they’re comparing apples to oranges. Canzano and Foote, fueled by self-righteous emotion, simpleton logic and this flawed comparison, once again crucify a man who served his legal punishment and was on his way to becoming a contributing member of society. Canzano is milking Heimlich’s misfortune for all the ad revenue he can get, and get that revenue he does.

During a break, an ad plays from Dolphin II, a strip club in Beaverton, Oregon. From what I understand, this club basically hires young women to dance. In 2011, the owner of Dolphin was accused of sex crimes. In 2015, a pimp went to trial for selling a 15 year old girl to Dolphin II and received life in prison. Jurors found him guilty on seven counts of using a child in a display of sexually explicit conduct.

On Twitter, Canzano addresses this problem and appears confused or ignorant that Dolphin II advertises on his show, and goes on to say he’ll ask for them to be removed. Shortly later, at 2:23pm, the ad plays again.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Truth really is stranger than fiction. Canzano is throwing stones; today we confirmed he lives in a glass mansion.

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  • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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    On Twitter, Canzano addresses this problem and appears confused or ignorant that Dolphin II advertises on his show, and goes on to say he’ll ask for them to be removed. Shortly later, at 2:23pm, the ad plays again.

    This is my favorite thing that has come out of this fiasco hahahah <3

    • GreatSwammi says:
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      I originally posted the ads about the DolphinII because I thought it was hypocrisy at the highest level. 750 The Game has been sponsored by the DII for as long as I’ve been listening to the Canzano Show and that’s going back a few years. The fact that John denied know the DII was a sponsor tells me everything I need to know about him and his character. I will never listen to his program again. The fact that the Oregonian closes down theses articles so people can’t respond is just spineless and gutless and I’d love to tell Mr. Canzano to his face of just that fact. They published this story to create more traffic to their website, but came across as though they were performing a public service….what a bunch of cowards.

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        “sponsored by the DII for as long as I’ve been listening to the Canzano Show and that’s going back a few years.”

        So likely while that underage girl performed at their club and got abused. nice!

  • F_nemec says:
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    Canzano is lucky he committed adultery in Oregon, and not in a different state where adultery is a crime

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      someone should call his show and say exactly this. On the air

      • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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        Unfortunately a guy like Canzano uses a tape delay just for this situation. Im sure he gets daily hate calls.

    • F_nemec says:
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      I cant find anything either, most likely fake. Unless someone else posts a link

    • helmsley says:
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      Besides, it’s my understanding he is a devout catholic. Will he ever have forgiveness for adultery – surely his sin should follow him unto the end of the world.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Technically, he didn’t covet another man’s wife.

        So he’s good.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    At one point on his Twitter, he deflects to “Alpha” whatever the hell that is. So he’s not even a stand up guy, it’s your show accept how bizarre and fucked up it is and “recuse” yourself for awhile. One could not ask for more fitting fodder to illustrate Canzano’s tone deafness.

    • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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      Alpha media, or alpha broadcasting. Something like that. Its who owns the station.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        In an earlier thread, I got the impression, I think from “GrateSwammi” that these ads have been running for quite awhile, so considering some of his past stances, he should have dealt with this long before we were able to take advantage of this delicious irony. But he didn’t and now we laugh in disgust.

        • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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          Yeah, Swammi brought it to light yesterday. Took angrybeavs community just a few hours to find evidence and call him out for it. And the cherry on top was John saying it won’t air on his show, only to have it air 30 minutes later, and it’s all documented on social media. I’m so proud of the AB community. Well done!

        • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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          it would be amazing if those ads were running in 2015

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            Podcasts do exist, if anybody wanted to listen.

            Both sports radio stations in the area frequently feature ads from strip clubs and have for over a decade, so it’s likely

          • Jack Jack says:
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            I’ve heard a total of 12 minutes of his show in my life.

            I’m not going to add to that.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            But yeah…

            No matter how poor I thought he was on almost everything, I thought he got the Brenda Tracy story right and did a pretty good job writing it.

            This removes all credibility.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            Worse is that the O itself has reported on Dolphin II’s obscene existence, and he just ignored it. One would think he could have spun that kind of story into his method, but he just whiffed on it. In doing so, he exposes his method as lazy and apathetic.

          • cj cj says:
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            Podcasts don’t normally have the ads….

  • Ryan says:
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    I see the Oregonian is keeping certain story locked from comments still. Danny story on Luke not getting drafted is locked from comments…

    • angry angry says:
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      Yep, tomorrow I was going to make a thread highlighting that. It’s really bad…lets them control the narrative and discourages dissent, etc. It seems more people are seeing through them, though. Eggers piece will help with that.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Umm, I don’t mean to derail the subject here but that’s kinda been the norm lately from left leaning perspectives. If you haven’t been paying attention. I think we all know which side of the fence the Boregonian sits on.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          The O is anything but left leaning.

          This is free market, unregulated media. If you ever complain about media being salacious or infotaining instead of having the boring integrity of decades past news services, blame Ronnie Raygun, Bubba Clinton and the GOP for stripping out onerous regulations that didn’t allow the owners of news agencies to allow their reporters to do their jobs efficiently… or some shit.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          The O is anything but left leaning. Even what would be considered a left leaning editorial is often botched in the name of money as only a money grubber would do.

          This is free market, unregulated media. If you ever complain about media being salacious or infotaining instead of having the boring integrity of decades past news services, blame Ronnie Raygun, Bubba Clinton and the GOP for stripping out onerous regulations that didn’t allow the owners of news agencies to allow their reporters to do their jobs efficiently… or some shit.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            echo

            whiskey with the derailment… two points

    • helmsley says:
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      Comment on any sports article – they’ll probably delete it but it will be out there for a little while.

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    I was tipped off earlier, I mean an unnamed source informed me that Canzano is a closet kid diddler.

    See? I can make up slanderous shit too. Only I don’t get paid to do it.

    • angry angry says:
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      That’s technically libel. 😉

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Technically I don’t give a fuck. Posting something that was sarcasm on an internet message board isn’t the same as breaking/penning an article seen by probably millions.

        Just kidding John! Allegedly

        I keep hearing about identity theft all the time and keep hoping someone out there really wants to be me more than I do. I wonder why no one does?

        • cj cj says:
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          … and .leading into it by saying you can make stuff up, too…

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Yes.

      The way to combat this particular idiocy is to lower yourself to that standard.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    I think I mentioned this is before, but I didn’t get much response. I don’t know much about how Wikipedia works, but there is no mention of him being married before Anna Song in the personal section. Did he have kids from the first marriage? Can he edit is own page?

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      ANYONE can edit Wikipedia

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      National Sports Media Association[edit]
      Canzano is a five-time Oregon Sportswriter of the Year winner (2005, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014) as named by the National Sports Media Association (NSMA). [17] In 2016, the NSMA named Canzano the “Broadcaster of the Year” for the state of Oregon. John also continues to be a huge hypocrite that is only in the business of clickbait.[18]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Canzano

      There you go. I’d suggest looking before someone deletes my edit

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        It’s already gone, someone is watching it like a hawk. Probably JC himself.

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          Cluebot NG edited almost instantly and post that the edit WSN did was possible vandalism, lol.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          You can look at previous versions

          https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Canzano&diff=785558099&oldid=777440006

          That was my handy work. Which is pretty tame by my low standards

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Nice, maybe edit the pic too, I suggest a horses ass.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            If enough people make edits to a wikipedia page in a certain amount of time, wikipedia then locks that page and shuts it down. I’m not encouraging an act of vandalism. That would be JUVENILE

            I’m just sayin

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            If one has enough time and goes thru the edits, well there’s dirt with links to be found.

    • helmsley says:
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      I believe his oldest daughter is from a first marriage. It seems to me, also, that his present wife wrote/aired a piece about whether or not she wanted to have children.

      Regarding a topic in the last thread about all the online information everyone is retrieving from Pierce County, Washington. Imo, missed clues are picked up onsite – things that weren’t asked about. Also, was the original complaint called into Tacoma? I doubt it; probably called into the police or sheriff in Puyallup. I have heard lawyers say they won a case, not because they should have, rather, because the opposition didn’t ask the right questions.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        I don’t understand. Are you asking about his original arrest and the mitigating circumstances behind his confession?

        If that’s the case, we probably don’t want to go down that road. I believe cops being allowed to hotbox minors in order to elicit false confessions is one the most egregious tactics of law enforcement allowed. But once confessed and entered in a plea of guilt, the respondent isn’t allowed to recant in any way, or his or her deferred sentence will be enforced. This is the part kids and their parents don’t understand when faced with these situations. At every turn, law enforcement tells them that the mitigating circumstances will make this all go away sooner if you follow their lead. And once you agree, they shut the door behind you and open another further ahead.

        • helmsley says:
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          “I don’t understand. Are you asking about his original arrest and the mitigating circumstances behind his confession?”

          No – and I agree with your second paragraph – wholeheartedly. Juveniles by and large will get a weary public defender – unless there is lots of money, not to mention connections.

          Abs were looking for timelines, the vengeful relative, and evidence of tipoff to Moran. I like good, accurate, detailed information and the point was (I thought) that onsite is the best way to be sure you get that.

        • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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          I have two teens at home. Teens do dumb stuff, daily. My teens are well versed in what to say to LEO upon any interaction. “Call my dad.” Nothing else. I hope they will heed that advise if ever needed.

    • PdX says:
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      Yes, there are kids from a previous marriage I believe for both his wife and himself.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        I find it kind of creepy that his Wikepedia page leads one to believe he has only been married to Anna Song and that they have three kids. Revisionist history, indeed!

  • Doozeldorf says:
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    You can see what user or IP address makes the edit. Most of the ones that remove the negative stuff are the same IP. Maybe JC or maybe an admin that gets notified of all edits.

    • goBeavers goBeavers says:
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      The most common IP in the edit history is probably Canzano. That IP has only edited his and Anna Canzano’s pages lol. It’s also a Portland IP from my googling.

      • BeavGirl BeavGirl says:
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        hahahaha. ok second favorite thing of the day. A+++

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      How difficult would it be to cross check those IP’s against AB posters? Curious if JC or any of the PDX IP’s have posted here.

  • EricBeaver says:
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    Good piece by the Portland Tribune:
    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/363027-243259-a-look-at-some-issues-involving-luke-heimlich-

    • JockStrap JockStrap says:
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      Wow….that’s the way it needs to be researched/reported!!!

      • Jack Jack says:
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        That should have been the foundation of the original story. Apply just the available facts. Remove the extraneous facts. And you have a proper story.

        Unfortunately, in this age, I’ll have to wait for the 30 for 30 to get anything thoughtful on the subject.

        • MonkeyLuven MonkeyLuven says:
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          Maybe Outside The Lines??

          • Jack Jack says:
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            While I respect Ley et al, their format is insufficient for most of the topics they cover. Documentary would be the best method for this one since nobody wants to do any work now.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    What is the Dolphin II ad? “Here, the truth isn’t the only thing that’s bald!”

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      “Come polish your dolphin at the Dolphin II.”

  • tim318 says:
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    For those keeping score – today is the seventh consecutive day that the Oregonian has had an article, opinion column, or other report about Heimlich (with Heimlich in the headline) on its main homepage. Some are left up for two days despite this page being refreshed throughout the day.

    • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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      Man I hope Casey goes off about it… enough is enough already! I so hope that LH’s legal team sues the Oregonian rag. This might be the only way LH saves his major league future.

      • Dan says:
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        What is to keep LH from waiting until August, sealing his records and then changing his name ? Then playing under a different name like woman (normally) do when they get married .

        • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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          I think he still has to register as a sex offender doesn’t he?

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            “In Oregon, a juvenile sex offender from out of state is not required to register again on his 21st birthday. Were Heimlich a resident of Oregon or convicted in Oregon, he would have had to. As a Washington resident attending college in Oregon, that part of the law did not apply to him.

            When Corvallis police included Heimlich in a sweep of sex offenders who had not registered, they didn’t realize he wasn’t required to under Oregon law. Heimlich’s attorney, Stephen Ensor, took that to the district attorney, who agreed to dismiss the case.”

            From the Eggers article. So the Corvallis police department is the cause of this mess.

          • BeaverBill BeaverBill says:
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            No, the cause of this mess is the Oregonian going on a witch hunt for more clicks.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            He’s saying Luke still has to re-register every time he moves (within and out of state) and every time his disposition (employment) changes. This will initiate different protocols in different states.

    • sscamaro sscamaro says:
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      Would be appropriate for Casey to instruct his players that any queries from Oregonian reporters be met with a simple but polite……..No comment.

  • angry angry says:
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    Mckalk, Eggers wrote me back this morning, so I guess we’re on okay/good terms moving forward. I’m not sure how to “team up” with him, or if he’d want to be associated with this blog, if that’s what you were thinking. I’d imagine Eggers has no interest in that since he gains nothing and risks reputation by associating with a counter-culture blog. The positive is the line of communication has been reopened, so I can ask future questions.

    • mckalk mckalk says:
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      I would like to know what the Tribune would have done with the information if they had found it before the Oregonian. I wonder if Egger’s would share his opinion on Moran’s article and Canzano’s opinion pieces with you? What does Egger’s think of your article?

      • angry angry says:
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        I didn’t ask him what he thought of my article. You can write him and ask that. I’d personally feel awkward asking him that. IT’s hard to know what the Tribune would have done, but my guess is something close to the article Eggers wrote.

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    I think Eggers’s article says LH can seal his record on 27 August and won’t be on a sex offender registry.

    “Under Washington law, an offender who has turned 21 may file a motion to have the record sealed five years after conviction. That means, for all legal purposes, the person has never been charged with the crime.

    Heimlich, who turned 21 on Feb. 3, was convicted on Aug. 27, 2012. His five-year point comes on Aug. 27 of this year. “

  • wannabeav says:
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    An update on the legal front, after consulting with my expert attorney source. I’m posting it here, rather than on the preceding thread, with some misgivings because I’ve now concluded, based on the savvy insights by previous posters, that going after Canzano is a dead-end and potentially counterproductive by allowing him to make the case that he’s been victimized by a mob, etc. Canzano is a little bit like the arsonist who get his thrills out of all the chaos he has created. I’ve concluded, rather, that the focus ought to shift to the university’s position, which I shall return to below.

    That said, my source continues to be appalled at the brazen attempt by the Oregonian to continue to stigmatize Heimlich. He called my attention to the relevant section of Washington’s juvenile law which, in its statement of intent (RCW 13.40.010) stipulates that one of the goals of juvenile adjudication is “(f) Provide for the rehabilitation and REINTEGRATION of juvenile offenders.” [emphasis added]

    Juvenile adjudication is one of FIVE so called “therapeutic” court systems in Washington, along with DUI, family court, mental health remediation, veterans treatment. Which is to say that juvenile adjudication, like the others, as a matter of state law, views social work (largely put) not punishment per se, as the state’s tactical response.

    My advisor on these matters suggests that what now appears (per the Eggers piece) to be the university’s attempt to, if you will, un-reintegrate Heimlich, runs contrary to his home state’s juridical intention. As for Moran/Canzano, they have posed themselves in the classic mode of proposing a government, or at least a judicial system, “of men rather than laws.” This is the ultimate slippery slope.

    A few other notes. As several have noted in this and the earlier thread, it’s not Heimlich’s judicial record that is at play, but rather the timing of the Oregonian’s approach to certain record keepers in Pierce County, Washington. Heimlich’s record is, for better or worse, a matter of public record. (Though I have been advised there is momentum toward sealing juvenile records sooner than is the current practice.) What is uncertain is the veracity of the Oregonian’s version of the sequence of investigatory events. And time is of the essence. Many institutional email systems “dump” all incoming email after 30 days or so. On the other hand, public officials in Washington are required to keep their outgoing email permanently. Which is to say, someone from the paper might have emailed an inquiry but it may not have been responded to and is at risk of being lost; or it could have been responded to by phone, which also means it might soon be unrecoverable. There are recourses like server scans and the like but that may be beyond the reach of a standard public records request. Anyone so inclined should simply pose to the court clerk a copy of any email received or sent relative to Heimlich over the last few months. The burden is on the public agency to do the search of its records. No one needs to go to Tacoma to secure it.

    My counselor’s bottom line: the person/institution who is best positioned to cauterize the situation and potentially un-do it is Mr. Ed. Ray, president of OSU. Ray may feel he is bound by Oregon law, and of course he is, but the force and effect of Washington law under which this case was originally adjudicated argues for re-integration of juvenile offenders, not stigmatization. The Oregonian should know that but they seem to be a lost cause at this point since their business interest does not lie with resolution but rather further tumult.

  • Doozeldorf says:
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    Has anyone fwd Eggers’ article to Ed Ray yet? I’ll do it if it hasn’t been done yet. My fear is Ray will kowtow to Canzano’s incessant distorted opinion of the right thing to do, rather than base his decision on facts and professional opinions.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Unfortunately, Ray’s decision will come down more to “cost of bad pr/reputation” vs “cost of potential lawsuit which you may not lose Nyway”

      Sortof like a car manufacturer, they have to decide if they recall a decective vehicle or just eat the cost of any damages that defect may lead to. It’s not always about right vs wrong, it’s about damage control and minimizing risk

      • scotty says:
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        If OSU throws students under the bus for already-adjudicated conduct as a minor, they will definitely be taking a reputation hit from me, as well as a donation hit.

        Utterly spineless and counterproductive.

    • angry angry says:
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      Is Ed Ray a moron? He rushed to decision (based on sensationalized reporting)…a decision that will likely cost us a historic coach, who probably didn’t even know about this. Casey seems fed up, and he’s not one to take a lot of crap.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        I somwhat expected, before this whole story, that Casey would walk if the team cruised to a world series title. Why not go out on top? They would be the all-time most dominant team in college baseball. Can’t top that. I was somewhat prepared to see him retire, but would have been happy if he didnt.

        Ray probably has a similar stance. Good chance Casey leaves anyeay, so cover your own ass first.

        Just my opinion.

        After all of this, I would be shocked if Casey stays.

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        He’s probably thinking it’s worth one baseball player and one baseball coach to salvage the public opinion of the University.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        He is a college president, so he has never worked or functioned in the real world. My older sister is an associate dean at a very large school in the midwest. The PC culture reigns supreme and I suspect anything that might offend a vocal minority of students and or activists will be avoided like the plaque to avoid the bad press and publicity. I never cease to be amazed at how differently my sister and I view things knowing we were raised identically. The sad thing is that the university Prez should the one that has the intellectual integrity to state and make the case for the nuances of this situation. That would take courage, however, and it is much easier do the easy thing.

        • angry angry says:
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          Aren’t “forgiveness” and “acceptance” PC with these people?
          They want me to welcome a tranny pissing next to me in the bathroom, yet they also want me to lynch a guy who served his time and become a model citizen.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            That’s the problem, he tried and succeed. If he re-offended then he would be the “misunderstood juvenile offender” that deserves our acceptance because he can’t help himself.

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            Very good point.

          • Jack Jack says:
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            You care if a tranny is standing next to you and peeing?

          • angry angry says:
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            Not really.

  • GoBeavs says:
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    I heard, reliably, that the alleged victim’s mom is Luke’s older brother’s estranged wife who has been outcast from the family. I expect more will spill out soon and unfortunately Luke is done as a Beav & Casey may not be far behind. He’s apparently furious at OSU for the stance they took & not trusting him or Luke.

    • angry angry says:
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      Rightfully so. To hitch your wagon to Moran and Canzano was knee-jerk and thoughtless. Should have had a sit down and sorted out the facts. If I were Casey I’d be furious with Ed Ray.

      Was Casey this upset before Vandy or is this new? If I were a player, his anger would be more a distraction than Luke’s issues.

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        He’s been pissed since the call was made by Ray Friday of Vandy series.

    • scotty says:
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      According to the Eggers article, the university made the decision for him not to play. Not that I would have been thrilled to see him pitch, but I’d be curious on what exact grounds, other than “we’re spineless and throw students under the bus in the face of bad PR.”

      • angry angry says:
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        When it was reported as Luke’s call, I didn’t have issue with it.

        It seems like Casey has become more angry as time’s passed, and I think that’s why he threw Ed Ray under the bus and told Eggers it was Ray’s call, not Luke’s. Seems like originally he was going party line, then something happened that pissed him off, and he threw Ray under the bus. That he was willing to do that is a good sign he is not coming back to coach.

        We need to start wondering who the next baseball coach will be.

        • Jack Jack says:
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          It would be stupid to hire a D3 coach… you know… like the last guy we hired.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      For me, i don’t know that the marital status or family status of the mom really changes anything for me. I mean, I can understand a scenario where it could have come down to mom feeling like she’s against the whole Heimlich family because of this situation. Doesn’t mean one side of the family was more right than the other at this point.
      The custody part might be of interest, but really not our business either.

      Now, if she crossed some sort of line regarding speaking publicly about the case and the people involved, then I could see that being problematic.

      I’ve seen families divided over far less than this though.

      • Doozeldorf says:
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        The family status would just cast more shadow on Moran’s justification for the story. He claims he received permission from the victim’s mother, but if she is not her legal guardian then the justification holds very little water.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Has JC criticized Gatorade for naming Luke Player of the Year? Or is Gatorade a sponsor of the “Bald Faced Truth?”

  • Mammothboner6969 says:
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    Surprised they posted a critical letter to the editor today.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/06/flawed_reasoning_on_heimlich_s.html

    In other news, more Heimlich news (how many days in a row?)

    • angry angry says:
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      Probably trying to pretend they’re covering both sides, etc.

      Day late, dollar short.

      Next they’ll setup a fund for the victim to pretend they care.

    • helmsley says:
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      I think letters to the editor are the way to go.

  • hellobeavers says:
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    Has anyone watched any of the You Tube videos called The Diamond, A Season with Oregon State Baseball?

    Whomever is behind this documentary series has an incredible opportunity to turn this into something truly impactful. When they set out to make this, they didn’t know we would end up with one of the best seasons in history. And they certainly didn’t know how things would shake out as they have.

    It has all the makings of an HBO/Netflix type special. Right now is the drama part and the controversy. They could change gears on this a little bit to really examine the impact of the juvenile sexual registry, and really question whether society has overreacted with this.

    I really believe that the stance that people like Canzano and Brenda Tracy are taking on this particular situation will put them on the wrong side of history. They don’t leave any room for nuance in their approach to dealing with the so called “culture of campus rape”, particularly among athletes. They shouldn’t be conflating Heimlich’s actions as a minor (molestation) with the action of one adult raping another adult. They have next to nothing in common. You could argue the former is a mental illness that is highly treatable – which is how most of the world treats this stuff. The latter is a violent crime that is sexual in nature and is about power and entitlement < I think, I am not an expert in this field but I don't believe I am far off.

    An existing student/student athlete who sexually assualts someone should be kicked out. They are old enough to deal with those consequences. Despite what some people say, LH was in fact a kid. At 15 you have some ability to begin making more grown up decisions, but you are still a kid that should not be subject to the same life consequences as someone who has finished puberty. There are few execptions where we as a society hold someone that young to such signficant consequences – e.g. those who violently murder someone.

    If they did this documentatry right by combining all of the diamon footage into one film and consulting with someone who does this for a living, this could turn into a huge film.

  • angry angry says:
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    This.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Manufactured%20Outrage

  • ean says:
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    Wonder what Heimlich’s options are at this point even? Is the Japanese league more forgiving?

  • silverstream055 silverstream055 says:
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    Interesting that the Oregonian had Gina Mizell, not young Danny, write today’s obligatory click-bait hit piece on Luke: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2017/06/luke_heimlichs_availability_fo.html

    Comments closed from the moment the Oregonian posted the article. Standard operating procedure these days for the bold and fearless Oregonian…

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      I guess they have had enough reminders about Katches DUI and probably didn’t want to see the next batch regarding Canzano’s strip club sponsorship!

      • angry angry says:
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        Not enough people retweeted the article to get them concerned. AB kind of let me down on that one!

        • helmsley says:
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          I didn’t need anything from the oregonian. I looked it up on MLB draft site. Gina isn’t exactly rebelling. I didn’t retweet because I don’t use twitter. I did, however, send the link to several sites. I imagine lots of others did that..

    • helmsley says:
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      I didn’t need anything from the oregonian. I looked it up on MLB draft site. Gina isn’t exactly rebelling.

  • hellobeavers says:
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    This John Foote guy also seems like quite the piece of shit. He really likes putting people in jail and working to keep them there regardless of the truth.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/04/clackamas_da_employed_over-the.html

    It has even been called out in Slate:

    “Josh Marquis is, … is symptomatic of a system that is overly influenced by a narrow band of thuggish prosecutors who wield outsized power both in the Oregon District Attorneys Association and in fanning the flames of fear across the state’s media landscape. Two others warrant similar attention: Bob Hermann, the elected district attorney for Washington County, and John Foote, the elected prosecutor for Clackamas County.

    The Slate article goes on to say about Foote “In 2010, when the legislature suspended a ballot measure that had increased penalties for drug and property offenders, Foote resorted to evoking stereotypes of addicts who engage in “meth-fueled crime binges where they are doing tens of crimes per day.” He also lamented “the rise in juvenile property crime rates,” which he believed “occurred largely because the state has adopted a hands-off policy for juvenile drug offenders by not detaining youth on drug offenses.”

    And this gem “When asked about the drastic increase in the number of women Oregon incarcerates, Foote delivered this remark: “They need a time out.”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/01/oregon_has_one_of_the_worst_criminal_justice_systems_in_the_u_s.html

  • gobeavers92 says:
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    Reading this quote from Casey ” “It’s just sad that they’re going through the suffering again as a family.” It sure sounds like a direct shot at the Whoregonian.

    If Casey is thinking / decided to retire after this season I would not be shocked if he let Luke pitch and gave a big middle finger to the school admin and armchair moral authority police.

    Reading his quotes the last couple of days it sounds like a man who is really pissed he/the team, and LH are being hung out to dry and is more than happy to burn a bridge on the way out the door (who can blame him?)

    • angry angry says:
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      That would be awesome if he pitched Luke and he dominated.

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    I don’t blame him at all, in fact if I were in his shoes I would play him. I don’t want to be in a world where juvenile offenders are punished forever and never given a chance to succeed. Isn’t that what the end game of the court system is. Punish and rehabilitate the offender back into society as a productive contributor.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Looks like Canzano has removed the kid employing strip club from his radio show, although he doesn’t want to encourage his station to drop them altogether. Might be a good idea to follow this suggestion to let him know how you feel.

    https://twitter.com/BigWillC15/status/875167327758594048

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