I was reading up on the yeast shortage today. What are you short on? What have you learned about prepping? Do you think your future behavior will change due to the shortages, etc?
Anything Beavs of course is on topic, too.
I was reading up on the yeast shortage today. What are you short on? What have you learned about prepping? Do you think your future behavior will change due to the shortages, etc?
Anything Beavs of course is on topic, too.
Updated chart from my buddy regarding unemployment. Let’s hope this curve starts flattening SOON!
https://stats.sitesusa.com/unemployment
Is it time we work on flattening that curve?? Hm….
I’m never taking toilet paper for granted. Screw you Mr. Whipple, I’m squeezing the Charmin.
Bullish for bidet companies?
I’ve never used a bidet, how do you dry off after getting your ass pressure washed?
You don’t. You just sit there for a sec.
Not to share too much info but I’m pretty hairy, and pretty sure waiting a sec isn’t gonna work out for ever
Also a yeti. I’ve only used them in warm climates so it was no big deal. You could always get a supply of hand towels for a quick dry. If the bidet is doing its job you are sanitary enough.
Newer ones have a warm air blow dryer.
When I saw that you had to start making an appointment to enter a bank lobby I emptied my safe deposit box of all my gold and silver coins. I never let my gas tank get less than 1/2 full, and I carry 10 times as much cash on me as I used to in case the ATM’s close or the banks just seal up your money.
Smart. When did you make these changes? I haven’t heard of bank appointments…
There is valid reason to believe the next “bail out” will be a “bail in”, where any money in bank deposits will be used to make the insolvent solvent. e.g. Cyprus 2013, only in the U.S. Have you heard they’re trying to ban cash globally to avoid this? Again, your wonderful central banks at work…
When this happened in Cyprus, they only did it to accounts over a certain level. I don’t remember what the level was, but I remember thinking “I’ll never have that much in one bank account.”
Also, Cyprus was (maybe still is) a popular place for Russian oligarchs to keep their cash. It’s entirely possible the Cyprus measures were mainly targeting them and this was seen as being the most politically expedient measure to take.
I think I emptied the safe deposit box around March 20th. That’s when I started building cash. I’m worried about a bail in too. One other thing I did:, if you’re old enough and your system allows it, get a checking account that can make payouts out of your traditional or Roth IRA. If you can’t get a hold of your broker you can just make a “draw” on your own.
Are banks open? Seems like everyone I’ve heard of around here have closed branches, limited hours and closed lobbies ie drive up only.
a lot of ATM’s are closed up because they’re not sending out folks to replenish them. Build cash people.
But Home Depot and the vet is open so they can figure out a solution but atm folks can’t??
The yeast shortage is going to hurt my biz more than this lockdown.
Is there a shortage in large batch yeast too? You guys have the know how to make your own?
Yes big shortage I guess dueto Europe running out according to my yeast proprietor. I get different strains of yeast so making it is tough, but might be making some in the future.
Contact my girl friend, she has enough to cover everyone!
Woah there chubby Pitt! Hot comments like that is gonna get the room clammy!
Ouch.
LOL! I just had beer come it of my nose reading this.
I am getting short on active dry yeast but Its just a convience. I’ve made bread starter loads of times with various sources. Yeast is literally on everything edible. Sourdough starter is just a specific kind of starter that gives a neat taste. Here’s a pretty hilarious guide a teaser geneticist tweeted.
https://www.boredpanda.com/yeast-shortage-life-hack/
The biggest things im realizing is that I need more reference material in physical formats (how to Manuels, survival guides, psychology books) and I need to invest more in fun. I’ve been scrambling to get things going in the house and yard to keep young kids sane.
Prior prepping has me fine on supplies.
You can make sourdough starter, which will make bread without yeast, literally with nothing more than flour and water. You just have to be patient enough for the magic to happen. My wife started her current starter exactly that way, 2 years ago.
With that starter you can just about anything.
Yup! There is almost always yeast just on flour or the containers you use. It’s slower than seeding it with dried fruit or beer dregs but it works.
Don’t you have to feed the starter flour every day? Unless you have a lot of flour that creates another problem.
You can make plenty of flat breads, crackers, and even hardtack without yeast.
Maybe we should start an AB barter system.
No, not daily. But to get it started it does take more frequent help, and even more patience. Once started it takes very little.
And flour, at least right now, is still easier to find than yeast.
We have also made a few changes the last few weeks. We have canned some vegetables and meat. Bought more canned goods. More ammo because the run on ammo and guns mean higher prices soon. We have more cash on hand like wannabeav posted. With so many meat processing plants shutting down we are purchasing a new chest freezer this week and stocking that with meat. Prices are going to rise quickly. We have a small farm that we will be planting hemp infor our 2nd crop. But we are going to take a slice out for a vegetables for canning and family. Should have been better prepared but we are in better shape then some i guess. The last month has been a real eye opener.
Hemp is a good idea for real shit hitting the fan. You can use those fibers for so much stuff. Might want to get a processing manual so you can make clothes and other goods without guess work.
Something my wife brought up recently, the fact it is so versatile. A book or manual is a great idea.
Local dude that knows what’s up if you have need for hemp
https://www.klrfarms.com/
We are good to go hemp wise, but thanks. We cloned many of our own and have a new set of seeds due any day. Thats a nice website. I bookmarked them because you never know….
it’s gonna get worse before it gets better, Wait.
By the way, interesting story on the NYT website–how the CCP pumped social media in this country in mid-March trying to sow panic and undercut Trump. No surprise there, I suppose. I had to laugh at the one line about some folks are fearing that Trump is “politicizing intelligence.” You mean like Comey and Brennan did? I never said anything at the time, but I found it hilarious during the whole impeachment thing that the neo-liberals were embracing the deep intelligence state. Yep. The same people that got rid of JFK were now paragons of virtue.
Also, contrary to an assertion in the previous thread–I have never cited Fox News as a source for anything I have posted here with my unorthodox interpretations: it’s only been the Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, Nation Magazine, Wa PO, and here for the first time, the NYT.
Chinese Agents Helped Spread Messages That Sowed Virus Panic in U.S., Officials Say
American officials were alarmed by fake text messages and social media posts that said President Trump was locking down the country. Experts see a convergence with Russian tactics.
Edward WongMatthew RosenbergJulian E. Barnes
By Edward Wong, Matthew Rosenberg and Julian E. Barnes
April 22, 2020
Updated 12:20 p.m. ET
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WASHINGTON — The alarming messages came fast and furious in mid-March, popping up on the cellphone screens and social media feeds of millions of Americans grappling with the onset of the coronavirus pandemic.
Spread the word, the messages said: The Trump administration was about to lock down the entire country.
“They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters,” warned one of the messages, which cited a source in the Department of Homeland Security. “He said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders.”
The messages became so widespread over 48 hours that the White House’s National Security Council issued an announcement via Twitter that they were “FAKE.”
Since that wave of panic, United States intelligence agencies have assessed that Chinese operatives helped push the messages across platforms, according to six American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to publicly discuss intelligence matters. The amplification techniques are alarming to officials because the disinformation showed up as texts on many Americans’ cellphones, a tactic that several of the officials said they had not seen before.
That has spurred agencies to look at new ways in which China, Russia and other nations are using a range of platforms to spread disinformation during the pandemic, they said.
The origin of the messages remains murky. American officials declined to reveal details of the intelligence linking Chinese agents to the dissemination of the disinformation, citing the need to protect their sources and methods for monitoring Beijing’s activities.
The officials interviewed for this article work in six different agencies. They included both career civil servants and political appointees, and some have spent many years analyzing China. Their broader warnings about China’s spread of disinformation are supported by recent findings from outside bipartisan research groups, including the Alliance for Securing Democracy and the Center for a New American Security, which is expected to release a report on the topic next month.
Two American officials stressed they did not believe Chinese operatives created the lockdown messages, but rather amplified existing ones. Those efforts enabled the messages to catch the attention of enough people that they then spread on their own, with little need for further work by foreign agents. The messages appeared to gain significant traction on Facebook as they were also proliferating through texts, according to an analysis by The New York Times.
American officials said the operatives had adopted some of the techniques mastered by Russia-backed trolls, such as creating fake social media accounts to push messages to sympathetic Americans, who in turn unwittingly help spread them.
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The officials say the Chinese agents also appear to be using texts and encrypted messaging apps as part of their campaigns. It is much harder for researchers and law enforcement officers to track disinformation spread through text messages and encrypted apps than on social media platforms.
American intelligence officers are also examining whether spies in China’s diplomatic missions in the United States helped spread the fake lockdown messages, a senior American official said. American agencies have recently increased their scrutiny of Chinese diplomats and employees of state-run media organizations. In September, the State Department secretly expelled two employees of the Chinese Embassy in Washington suspected of spying.
Other rival powers might have been involved in the dissemination, too. And Americans with prominent online or news media platforms unknowingly helped amplify the messages. Misinformation has proliferated during the pandemic — in recent weeks, some pro-Trump news outlets have promoted anti-American conspiracy theories, including one that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory in the United States.
American officials said China, borrowing from Russia’s strategies, has been trying to widen political divisions in the United States. As public dissent simmers over lockdown policies in several states, officials worry it will be easy for China and Russia to amplify the partisan disagreements.
“It is part of the playbook of spreading division,” said Senator Angus King, independent of Maine, adding that private individuals have identified some social media bots that helped promote the recent lockdown protests that some fringe conservative groups have nurtured.
The propaganda efforts go beyond text messages and social media posts directed at Americans. In China, top officials have issued directives to agencies to engage in a global disinformation campaign around the virus, the American officials said.
Some American intelligence officers are especially concerned about disinformation aimed at Europeans that pro-China actors appear to have helped spread. The messages stress the idea of disunity among European nations during the crisis and praise China’s “donation diplomacy,” American officials said. Left unmentioned are reports of Chinese companies delivering shoddy equipment and European leaders expressing skepticism over China’s handling of its outbreak.
Mr. Trump himself has shown little concern about China’s actions. He has consistently praised the handling of the pandemic by Chinese leaders — “Much respect!” he wrote on Twitter on March 27. Three days later, he dismissed worries over China’s use of disinformation when asked about it on Fox News.
“They do it and we do it and we call them different things,” he said. “Every country does it.”
Asked about the new accusations, the Chinese Foreign Ministry released a statement on Tuesday that said, “The relevant statements are complete nonsense and not worth refuting.” Zhao Lijian, a ministry spokesman, has separately rebutted persistent accusations by American officials that China has supplied bad information and exhibited a broader lack of transparency during the pandemic. “We urge the U.S. to stop political manipulation, get its own house in order and focus more on fighting the epidemic and boosting the economy,” Mr. Zhao said at a news conference on Friday.
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An Information War
The United States and China are engaged in a titanic information war over the pandemic, one that has added a new dimension to their global rivalry.
President Trump and his aides are trying to put the spotlight on China as they face intense criticism over the federal government’s widespread failures in responding to the pandemic, which has killed more than 40,000 Americans. President Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party are trying to shore up domestic and international support after earlier cover-ups that allowed the virus to spread.
As diplomatic tensions rose and Beijing scrambled to control the narrative, the Chinese government last month expelled American journalists for three U.S. news organizations, including The Times.
The extent to which the United States might be engaging in its own covert information warfare in China is not clear. While the C.I.A. in recent decades has tried to support pro-democracy opposition figures in some countries, Chinese counterintelligence officers eviscerated the agency’s network of informants in China about a decade ago, hurting its ability to conduct operations there.
Chinese officials accuse Mr. Trump and his allies of overtly peddling malicious or bad information, pointing to the president’s repeatedly calling the coronavirus a “Chinese virus” or the suggestion by some Republicans that the virus may have originated as a Chinese bioweapon, a theory that U.S. intelligence agencies have since ruled out. (Many Americans have also criticized Mr. Trump’s language as racist.)
Republican strategists have decided that bashing China over the virus will shore up support for Mr. Trump and other conservative politicians before the November elections.
Given the toxic information environment, foreign policy analysts are worried that the Trump administration may politicize intelligence work or make selective leaks to promote an anti-China narrative. Those concerns hover around the speculation over the origin of the virus. American officials in the past have selectively passed intelligence to reporters to shape the domestic political landscape; the most notable instance was under President George W. Bush in the run-up to the Iraq War.
ImageZhao Lijian, a spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, has rebutted accusations that Beijing has not been transparent during the pandemic.
Zhao Lijian, a spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, has rebutted accusations that Beijing has not been transparent during the pandemic.Credit…Carlos Garcia Rawlins/Reuters
But it has been clear for more than a month that the Chinese government is pushing disinformation and anti-American conspiracy theories related to the pandemic. Mr. Zhao, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, wrote on Twitter in March that the U.S. Army might have taken the virus to the Chinese city of Wuhan. That message was then amplified by the official Twitter accounts of Chinese embassies and consulates.
The state-run China Global Television Network produced a video targeting viewers in the Middle East in which a presenter speaking Arabic asserted that “some new facts” indicated that the pandemic might have originated from American participants in a military sports competition in October in Wuhan. The network has an audience of millions, and the video has had more than 365,000 views on YouTube.
“What we’ve seen is the C.C.P. mobilizing its global messaging apparatus, which includes state media as well as Chinese diplomats, to push out selected and localized versions of the same overarching false narratives,” Lea Gabrielle, coordinator of the Global Engagement Center in the State Department, said in late March, referring to the Chinese Communist Party.
Some analysts say it is core to China’s new, aggressive “‘Wolf Warrior’ diplomacy,” a term that refers to a patriotic Chinese military action film series.
But Chinese diplomats and operators of official media accounts recently began moving away from overt disinformation, Ms. Gabrielle said. That dovetailed with a tentative truce Mr. Trump and Mr. Xi reached over publicly sniping about the virus.
American officials said Chinese agencies are most likely embracing covert propagation of disinformation in its place. Current and former American officials have said they are seeing Chinese operatives adopt online strategies long used by Russian agents — a phenomenon that also occurred during the Hong Kong protests last year. Some Chinese operatives have promoted disinformation that originated on Russia-aligned websites, they said.
And the apparent aim of spreading the fake lockdown messages last month is consistent with a type of disinformation favored by Russian actors — namely sowing chaos and undermining confidence among Americans in the U.S. government, the officials said.
“As Beijing and Moscow move to shape the global information environment both independently and jointly through a wide range of digital tools, they have established several diplomatic channels and forums through which they can exchange best practices,” said Kristine Lee, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security who researches disinformation from China and Russia.
“I’d anticipate, as we have seen in recent months, that their mutual learning around these tools will migrate to increasingly cutting-edge capabilities that are difficult to detect but yield maximal payoff in eroding American influence and democratic institutions globally,” she added.
‘There Is No National Lockdown’
The amplification of the fake lockdown messages was a notable instance of China’s use of covert disinformation messaging, American officials said.
A couple of versions of the message circulated widely, according to The Times analysis. The first instance tracked by The Times appeared on March 13, as many state officials were enacting social distancing policies. This version said Mr. Trump was about to invoke the Stafford Act to shut down the country.
The messages generally attributed their contents to a friend in a federal agency — the Pentagon, the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the F.B.I., the C.I.A. and so on. Over days, hundreds of identical posts appeared on Facebook and the online message board 4chan, among other places, and spread through texts.
Another version appeared on March 15, The Times found. This one said Mr. Trump was about to deploy the National Guard, military units and emergency responders across the United States while imposing a one-week nationwide quarantine.
That same day, the National Security Council announced on Twitter that the messages were fake.
“There is no national lockdown,” it said, adding that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention “has and will continue to post the latest guidance.”
Samantha Vinograd, who was a staff employee at the National Security Council during the Obama administration, replied to the council’s tweet, recounting her experience with the disinformation.
“I received several texts from loved ones about content they received containing various rumors — they were explicitly asked to share it with their networks,” she wrote. “I advised them to do the opposite. Misinfo is not what we need right now — from any source foreign or domestic.”
Since January, Americans have shared many other messages that included disinformation: that the virus originated in a U.S. Army laboratory at Fort Detrick in Maryland, that it can be killed with garlic water, vitamin C or colloidal silver, that it thrives on ibuprofen. Often the posts are attributed to an unnamed source in the U.S. government or an institution such as Johns Hopkins University or Stanford University.
As the messages have sown confusion, it has been difficult to trace their true origins or pin down all the ways in which they have been amplified.
Hmmm, that was a long post, sorry Angry, feel free to clip as you see fit.
I think you may have broken Jack’s record for the longest post. Congrats…. good luck getting the trophy from him.
I’ll pry it from his cold dead hands, or whatever that saying is
Reminds me of Aesop’s fable: the boy who cried “fake news!”
That one’s about as interesting as the one about Proud Boys making road trips with little spray bottles, being sure to hit black and Jewish neighborhoods most comprehensively.
I mean, I’m really happy that my President is stable and intelligent enough to not incite some rogue nation like… oh… Iran, to send masses of people… or a half dozen… to spread something Dumbshit Donnie knows more about than the generals.
Fucking A!
Gotta love fools that think everyone but Trump is always in the wrong……..
Pretty impressive conspiracy the Democrats came up with if you ask me.
1) Go back in time to fake a birth certificate of Obama in order to convince Trump to run for President
2) Help Trump win in 2016 by having James Comey hold a press conference right before the election telling America the FBI is still investigating Hillary.
3) Help Trump get elected by providing billions in free media (and the James Comey thing)
4) Once in office, convince the intelligence agencies, media, and our allies to help force Trump to embrace dictators over American intelligence or allies
5) Twist Trump’s “perfect call” and perfectly legal choice to ignore Congress and blackmail an at risk ally into digging up dirt on his likely opponent to get said aid in order to attempt a coup through an unconstitutional process known as impeachment.
6) Knowing the pandemic was coming (it’s just a hoax after all) Use said impeachment to make it impossible for Trump to respond to this pandemic-He did find time watch news for hours per day, golf multiple times, and hold several rallies but doing all that AND prepare for an impending pandemic. A king can only do so much right?
7) Then blame Trump for failing to properly respond when it is obviously only China, the World Health Organizations, and Governors (especially Democratic governors) who failed to act.
All to take down one Russian money launderer……..
Trump must be as important as he thinks he is to make Democrats go to so much trouble. Hell, they invented time travel just to ruin Trump’s life.
That is a hell of a long con by the Democrats/Mainstream media/Deep state
Ugh
youngorst dabbling in lunch cocktails.
still don’t listen, eh?
a fine parrot you are! strawman much? huma knows…pedovores ;)
With the draft starting tomorrow, there is a chance that Luton gets picked before Hodgins. Wouldn’t have bet on that scenario when the season ended.
Hodgins seems to be falling down the draft boards.
Luton had a good combine and pro day. Hodgins didn’t run the 40 at the pro day which is interesting since had he improved his time, his stock would rise.
So who gets picked first? Luton or Hodgins?
Luton, no doubt.
WR is so deep this year. I thought Hodgins should have waited another year.
Hodgins is going to be an absolute steal in that scenario. Keenen Allen 2.0
Wouldn’t surprise me although Keenan Allen went in round 4. I don’t see Hodgins going until round 6 or 7. WR is just such a deep position.
I think Luton is off the board by the end of round 5 at the latest.
Note: Not my opinion on who I think will be better.
Angry’s and Co anti Sweden posts did not age well. I’m shocked. Back to the shiny rocks.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html
I think everyone is jumping to bad conclusions. Wait a month and see.
Understatement of the decade. This whole situation has been full of people jumping to bad conclusions.
Sweden is doing a hell of a job as long as you aren’t one of the 1937 (and counting) dead people. I doubt they feel all that great about how Sweden is handling this. But who cares about dead people? Right?
Many more lives will be saved due to more economic prosperity and no civil unrest. You know what kills more people than a virus? Poverty.
The article states that they think the capital is 1/3rd the way to theoretical herd immunity. Yikes.
Does the world care about people dieing of poverty now? I doubt it. Probably just the crab people making noise cause their wealth growth slowed down.
So dying from the virus makes you a victim but dying of poverty and “nobody cares”. Lol you can’t make this shit up.
When have conservatives ever given a shit about people in poverty?
Please, the open up protests aren’t about helping people in poverty. It is about keeping billionaires and millionaires rich.
Its commentary on most societies priorities. We have the wealth on earth for everyone to live at a decent level but we don’t. We leave people in poverty because poor people generally don’t matter to those who could make the difference. If you don’t understand that then you must live under an interesting rock.
Its not commentary on my own priorities.
Edit: Young its not really an ideological issue or political identity. Poverty has existed since we started forming market economies. Its an up and down issue that requires sacrifice to fix so its not done.
Didn’t say poverty was a ideological issue.
Opinions about those living in poverty can be though.
I said conservatives don’t give a shit about those in poverty. Conservatives firmly believe that if they are poor they should get help but if others are poor it is a personal failing on the part of said poor person.
This pandemic just makes it even more clear to me.
I stand by that position.
Youngster. Because being conservative makes you automatically want people to just up and die because they are poor. Great argument based on what? Im conservative and im pretty sure i have never thought that. As a matter of fact, i do care that so many are in poverty and its looking like that number may soon be growing. Damn shame and looking like it may not have needed to happen.
Yep, should have just left everything open.
Shouldn’t you and you AK be in Salem by now?
Give me a single policy example in the last 20 years where (so called) conservatives have supported that benefited the poor more than the wealthy?
Just one….
The last one I can think of was under Reagan (Earned Income Tax Credit) but I am sure you can name dozens being that conservatives are the party of the poor.
Jobs are and always have been the best way to pull people out of poverty. If they are willing to work. Which many are not because the get plenty of help from the government. We have spent literally trillions during the “war on poverty”. And guess what? Its still here and is never going away. Ever. Sing all you want about this policy and who put it together. It doesn’t matter, and never will.
Your post was so predictable.
Right to blaming the poor for not wanting to work from sentence 2 on.
So predictable…….
I don’t have a horse in the herd immunity race, but that article is citing the guy that came up with the strategy. It’s not exactly news to quote him saying he thinks it’s going to start working soon.
Let’s look at the math. And not taking into account how long it has been in each country.
Sweden has 10.23 million people, 1937 are dead according to that article.
1937/10,230,000 = 0.00019 or .0019% of the population. Seems small.
Scaled up for USA
328.2 million people live in America
328,200,000 * 0.00019 = 62,358
Current death toll in USA = 46,643
So based on that data our measures have saved (at least temporarily) 15,715 lives.
except our death rate will be long and draw out (flatten the curve). Where there’s is going to spike and drop off quickly because of herd immunity. I keep hearing just wait X number of weeks with them. I agreed early on that they were fucked but Its not panning out like some think.
And people keep bringing up deaths like it all could have been avoided. Its a pandemic from a virus they still don’t have a very good understand of. Its been in the US a lot longer then they think. Look at the article I posted at the end of the other thread, first death is now believed to be the 6th of February in California not the 29th of February in Washington. Depending on the age and medical info of that CA death they could have been sick as far back as the first week in January.
I disagree, there is a balance and people don’t have to die.
Why does everyone want America to follow Sweden instead of South Korea?
South Korea has over 50 million people and 238 deaths. Why are conservatives looking to Sweden to justify opening back up instead of South Korea?
I believe I know that answer….
We shouldn’t just accept a bunch of deaths for artificially high Dow Jones Industrial Average.
So we ask the virus to not attack peoples bodies nicely? The percentage of asymptomatic people is rising every week, we as a country do not understand how pandemics like this work. Its a foreign idea to lock yourself away and wear protective gear out in public.
South Korea and Asia in general are better at pandemics period. Its cultural to wear face masks in public if you are sick or have allergies. Its like putting on socks in the US, everyone has them.
And were did I say we should open up?
As of now the apocalypse of Sweden is not happening like everyone predicted a month ago.
So, our “culture” is why we can’t respond like South Korea?
Like I said, knew the answer.
Our culture can’t follow the lead of those lesser cultures.
I think it’s more they have a culture of preparedness for a virus and we don’t. We can’t respond like Korea now cause we already sunk the boat.
So basically it is too late?
I don’t agree.
Yes, it is too late to save thousands of already lost lives but we are America.
We can produce on demand testing if we want to.
We can produce enough face masks if we want to.
We can hire people to do contact tracing if we want to.
We just don’t want to.
I think you need to consider the logistics. We don’t have the PPE, isolation facilities or testing to do what South Korea did. We could have if we were ready and attacked aggressively from the start but we are not equipped to handle the material and specialist demands on the scale required now.
To be clear, I am not saying we should be doing it now (while we should be but moving on).
I am saying, we as a country could get those logistics handled if we wanted to.
I think we can put down the myth of American competence. We aren’t really the best at anything but millitary.
I think we can put down the myth of American competence. We aren’t really the best at anything but millitary.
We’re pretty great at being brainwashed by 2 cent Russian memes.
The UnHerd interview I posted a while back quoted the Swedish epidemiologist as saying the numbers wouldn’t sort out (or words to that effect) completely until 2021. Sweden hasn’t thrown out all caution. Changes (closing universities, for example) were made. Working remotely where possible is recommended. There just hasn’t been complete lockdown. I am not advocating one country’s choice over another’s but we seem to be mostly talking about rich, so-called advanced countries, whereas the planet has 8 billion people who suffer wars, tyrants, poverty, untold of discrimination, all of which take tolls over and above this pandemic.
I am personally okay with opening up right now.
I personally would choose to go to restaurants/bars today with or without any restrictions.
The problem is my choice could kill someone else. I prefer not to be responsible for that.
And for the life of me I can’t figure out why others are willing to do that. This isn’t just about risking your life, you get sick and you put others at risk.
No one has the right to put others at risk. And people that just want to open up fail to understand you are making that choice for millions who may not be willing to take the same risks you are.
And no, people can’t just choose. If someone is an at risk bartender and bars open back up that bartender either goes back to work or loses their job permanently (and the unemployment check they currently receive too).
To open we need on demand testing and contact tracing in place at the very minimum. Opening up prior to those things being in place is foolish.
And I personally think the USA would have had those in place long ago with an even remotely competent President.
it wouldn’t have mattered if George Washington himself told everyone they need to wear a face masks and gloves in public and to stay home unless absolutely necessary. People won’t and don’t listen.
The only way you could open now is ask people with underlying conditions to stay home a isolate and if they have jobs that would put them at risk, figure out a way to protect them and their jobs while on leave. How? I’m not sure.
You have a lower opinion of your fellow Americans than I do apparently.
I believe if asked Americans will do the right thing.
(Small exceptions like the corporate-backed protests we are seeing now will be touted by the news of course)
Its not a low opinion. Its the fact we don’t have the experience of a pandemic like Asian countries have. You can lecture people about anything you want, but until the have experienced that lecture in the real world it means nothing.
Everyone dies except Sweden? I for one welcome our new Swedish overlords.
Lol. Nice try.
Back to wiping your ass with dollar bills.
Read the attached graph in the article. Sorry checkmate.
Rules for this board, emotion is King, stats lie!!!
Why do you praise Sweden and ignore South Korea?
5 times the population with a tenth of the death toll.
Seems like a better model to follow, no?
Because there was a Right-Wing video with a Swedish doctor going around a few days on FB…
Operation Infektion got them.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/nfl-draft-analyst-seritella-sees-good-draft-for-offensive-line
Brandel getting some draft love. He has his occasional hiccups in pass pro, but he was generally solid and all OSU RB’s over the last four years have him to thank for some highlight-reel long TD’s.
Always thought he was solid.
Huh? He had the highest pass protection grade in the country last year.
I must be thinking of 2018
About that vaccine, CNN, and Big Pharma:
Not specific to a COVID vaccine, this long letter from Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta lays out the case for skepticism regarding the quality of reporting and the objectivity of government agencies.
RFK says, “CNN and other media outlets treat CDC, NIH, and WHO pronouncements as infallible truths. In fact, regulatory capture has made these agencies subsidiaries of Big Pharma, and the lies that CDC has been telling us about flu are now muddying the debate over coronavirus.”
As said, it’s a long piece. Cites several sources to back up disturbing accusations.
One more excerpt, from RFK’s conclusion:
“Finally, Sanjay, you and Anderson Cooper often comment with dismay on the monumental tragedy, for our democracy, of having a president who habitually lies. But presidents come and go; the more enduring tragedy, arguably, is that we cannot trust our news media to tell us the truth about vital health issues when advertising dollars are at stake. You scratch your head and wonder how all those Trump supporters don’t share your indignation at President Trump’s mendacity. One answer is that they are disheartened by once-trusted media outlets who have also set the precedent of routinely lying and violating the public trust, wounding in the process our democracy, public faith in critical institutions, and the health of our children.”
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-fact-checks-cnns-vaccine-misinformation/
So you are saying the answer to a dishonest media is to elect a dishonest president?
Makes sense if you don’t think about it.
Which president was honest? You know the one who set the standard for honesty.
Trump doesn’t lie more than other President’s?
Sure…..
No, my point is they all have lied. Does he lie more than other presidents? I dont know and frankly niether do you.
Yes. I do.
And frankly the so do you.
Fucking cult…
Recent memory, the gold standard is Jimmy Carter. That guy was as honest as it gets. Sold his family’s peanut farm because he didn’t want anything to look inappropriate if he had to make some decision that could possibly affect his business.
And I’m sure you’ll only mention Obama in your reply, but he was honest as well. Spin is one thing. Lies are another.
I pretty much posted they all lie. Including the annointed one himself, Obama.
Yeah, no one (I repeat no one) is claiming they don’t lie.
None lie like your God King Trump though.
And if you claim otherwise you are a liar too.
As predicted, you ignored my first point.
Please have the decency to point out three lies Jimmy Carter told. I double dog dare you. Just three. It’s a reasonable number. Surely anyone can point to three lies, since they all lie, right?
God king? Lol. Ok youngster. Lordy, but you do have the fever dont you?
You have to be in a cult and believe Trump to be a God to believe he doesn’t lie more then any other President (or even every other human)
Cake. I do not believe for a minute that carter never lied. In fact when he said that he would never lie to us was probably a lie. Me belief. You believe what you want.
@Cake – For a politician and president hes an exceptionally honest and kind person. I found a list (top comment on this quora post) but they are pretty lame lies in context of other president’s.
https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-biggest-lies-told-by-Jimmy-Carter-as-President
I do get annoyed by the nuclear physicist claim as a nuke haha
Apparently George Washington.
We have a winner^^^
“So you are saying the answer to a dishonest media is to elect a dishonest president?”
Not at all, Ean, I’m saying, and I repeat:” the letter lays out the case for skepticism regarding the quality of reporting and the objectivity of government agencies.”
you got it backwards, Ean: a corrupt media and the professional class of which they are a part is how you get a President Trump
Robert F. Kennedy Jr is an anti-vaxxer nutcase.
He honestly believes that depression and suicides in young people aren’t caused by crushing student loan debt, longer work and study hours with less sleep, an increasingly unaffordable housing market, societal changes that have made us more distant from friends and family.
Nope, he says it’s because of vaccines.
I’d take anything that idiot says with a big grain of salt and maybe a tetanus booster shot.
Well, that approach does save a lot of reading time, looking up cited sources and such.
I wish I was drunk as the Las Vegas Mayor appearing on CNN today…but alas, still working. I won’t link anything, as I’ll be accused of “fake news” and we libs changed her voice, and she never said any of this, etc.
Jesus, passive aggressive much?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/las-vegas-mayor-social-distancing-cnntv/index.html
Baking, yeast, hair styles and beards. This is the male version of the View. Which one of you chicks is Whoopie and which one is Behar? Lmao
The boredom is really getting to you, isn’t it? You might try masturbation. Might help keep your mind off OSU Beavers sports.
I have a wife. Don’t need to do that. You might try finding one Whoopie
Lol. sure you do buddy. Fucking a fleshlight wedged in a couch cushion does not equal a wife.
True but you at least won’t go to jail for murdering your fleshlight when you can’t take the quarantine anymore.
FYI, being single almost always sucks but right now it SUCKS!!!!
18 years happily married Blackbandits. And you still can’t get out of the sheep pen.
18 years huh? That poor fleshlight.
I’m sure. She must sure be ugly if you’d rather spend all your time here with all these beards.
Don’t talk about his Sabrina RealDoll like that.
Lmao. You (guys), again I use that term loosely spend literally 16 hours a day on the board talking about yeast and hairstyles. Are you all unemployed, shut-ins, single and desperate? My God, go out and contribute to society. Who has time for that? If you are married, she must be stepping out on you to get some attention.
Wow, that’s original. Do you write your own material or just try to build on what other people say? If you really are married I have to assume she abuses you, since you have release your frustrations on a blog for people with whom you have absolutely nothing in common.
I’m not Jesus. I’m just paraphrasing the typical MO for Trump and his followers. Don’t like facts? “Fake News”
Today it’s Trump’s attempted bullshit walk back from the CDC Director.
“There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” Redfield told The Post’s Lena H. Sun. He added, “We’re going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time.”
In a tweet Wednesday, Trump alleged Redfield had been misquoted. But he accused CNN of having done so, even though CNN merely relayed the comments published by The Post.
“CDC Director was totally misquoted by Fake News @CNN on Covid 19,” Trump said. “He will be putting out a statement.”
By the way, how’s that Fox News hydroxychloroquine working for everyone?
CNN reported the other day through “sources in the intelligence community” that Kim Jung Un is in really poor health. Then the right wing media ran with it like it was the gospel.
I’m glad your excited that possible treatment is failing and people are dieing because a president opened up the FDA to give it a fast track. Real fuck classy you scumbag.
The drug itself appears to be causing deaths. I think its is okay to ridicule a treatment that appears to actually make the virus more damaging.
We no nothing of that studies data points, only more people died. What are the ages, underlying health, when was the treatment started (early onset or last resort on a ventilator) how were they picked, and so on. New York and Michigan are doing comprehensive studies with the FDA. Between them both there are 12-13000 people in them. They are the only ones that should be taken seriously, once there finished obviously.
I find it sickening that people would cheer its failure just because trump got it fast tracked and available for compassionate use. Think about cheering for the deaths of fellow citizens because you hate people you don’t agree with. Stalin and Mao applaud you.
Uh oh…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/politics/rick-bright-trump-hydroxychloroquine.amp.html
Health Dept. Official Says Doubts on Hydroxychloroquine Led to His Ouster
Good Morning! That’s so sweet of you…you just forgot “real fuck classy you scumbag liberal Democrat”. Now put your gun back in your holster, cowboy.
I have no ill will of anyone who uses common sense and half a brain when making life choices. I do have problems with those who blindly follow the non-factual exhortations of President “I’m not a Doctor” and “What do you have to lose” Trump.
The echo chamber of Fox News personalities and “FOX medical experts” such as Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil(!) pushed the use of Hydro over 300 times in two weeks without the benefit of testing and research on the effectiveness of the drug. Suddenly, they’ve gone “radio silent” on the subject.
If Fox is in the business of promoting medical protocols to their faithful, then there “should be” a public responsibility to present evidence that the drug works.
Yesterday, Dr. Bright who is overseeing the vaccine/therapies to solve CV-19 is let go because he pushed back on Hydro studies.
“I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way,” Bright, who has a doctoral degree in immunology, said in his statement, which was released by his lawyers.
“Specifically, and contrary to misguided directives, I limited the broad use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which clearly lack scientific merit,” Bright said.
My reference to Fox News viewers is that they are not presented with the facts, when and if they are, they throw a wet blanket labeled “Fake News” over it. When they are wrong, they don’t retract anything.
I don’t know if the Guardian is “left or right”, but here’s a nice recap of the studies so far:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-scientific-studies-research
Science trumps ignorance. That’s a fact….
Thanks BB for making it personal, have a great day.
Whenever I’m debating with a Trumper I imagine Archie Bunker on the other end. It’s a way to quickly get on with your day.
I was pretty set for this. I always have had bad things happen to me in the past so I always save. I also always expected something like to happen eventually and this isn’t as bad as it could be so hopefully people learn. But I plan on getting more chickens. What I regret not having is a gun and gold or silver. I’m in the process of doubling my solar now. I also want to get a dirt bike. I have a 4 wheel drive truck but a dirt bike is a lot cheaper on gas and can take me further off in the boonies if ever needed and would be nice for small store runs.
Just fyi new bikes are really hard to get on the islands right now unless they ship from China. My farmer buddy has been trying to get a put bike or bigger dirt bike and no one will ship.
Ya I’m thinking of buying used right now cuz people need money so good time for me to take advantage.
Thought of another lesson learned. Many people use streaming services for music. Since quarentine started and I thought about what losing internet would mean I have been putting all my music and movies on external drives. If I have to sing all my favorite songs it will make isolation easy as everyone runs for the hills buttttttttt not enjoyable.
I make sure to have most of my favorites in some form of hard copy (typically albums if I can find them).
That said, I have an old iPod that is loaded with everything I’ve every downloaded/owned.
I’m sure your neighbors love that, or maybe that’s why they ran for the hills?
For the ladies on our site, some info on Beaver care.
http://x.paciolanmail.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=00cc36e044cf4375e704a0a45933ca8e
Hello Everyone,
If you know someone who has the virus in a bad way and they are having to go on the ventilator they are finding 2 things that really help. 1) Don’t wait until ventilator is last hope.. if it looks like it is headed that way get on as early as possible. 2) Push the medical staff to put the person in the prone position (face down) as they are finding this really helps. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-prone-positioning/index.html
Number 2 probably saved my buddies life. You can read his story (Facebook Darrin Godin) at: https://www.facebook.com/darrin.godin/posts/10158086880084536 – long read put out in 4 parts but you won’t be able to stop reading it.
the posts on this blog since late this morning are why we have to resort to trigger warnings in today’s education sector. Rage and ridicule, with an overlay of data to create the patina of empirical thinking, is the response.
There wasn’t room up above to respond, so I’ll just post a few summary reactions here.
“everyone but Trump is always in the wrong.” Classic projection, Youngorst. You are the absolutist. I don’t have the time to point out the number of instances where I’ve criticized Trump. What I would say as a rejoinder is that he’s not always wrong. Peak China, principally.
“conservatives cannot document a single policy example” where they’ve supported the poor. What an obvious tell for Youngorst’s world view. The only way to help people is with a “policy.” Charitable support of non-profits? A wise man once said: the best anti-poverty program is a job.
“we’re not going to do contract tracing because we don’t want to.” I was in a conversation with my county health officer today and she is going to hire dozens of people this spring to do exactly that.
“corporate backed protests.” how laughable. You think Wall Street and corporate types and bankers or the high tech companies are supporting those protests? To ask the question is to answer it. I’m only surprised you didn’t call it Astro-turf.
Oh, and the old stand-by, if you can’t think of anything else, tell people who disagree with you that they’re cultists.
Cool…
Your Party through Mitch McConnell just said they think states and local governments should be able to file bankruptcy instead of getting federal help to cover their obligations…
But we better make damn sure we bailout those corporations that have had it so rough in America…
So, frankly, go fuck you and everyone that supports corporate profits over the health AND compensation of your neighbors.
This is my fault, I wasn’t gonna engage anymore….
Seriously? Dont be a child.
Youngorst is a garden variety statist. He/she would love to send everyone he/she disagrees with straight to the gulag.
Yep….
Im thinking you are absolutely right. And lots like him out there.
Local governments can already file bankruptcy. Doesn’t really save much money though.
https://www.businessinsider.com/poll-most-americans-support-coronavirus-social-distancing-measures-2020-4?op=1
the black lash continues
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-21/china-s-coronavirus-diplomacy-has-finally-pushed-europe-too-far
New Chris Martenson (he’s neither a (D) or (R), and he’s an epidemiologist so I find him the best source on all this) exposed flaws in these recent studies. Highly recommend him over the news sources for all things covid…or at least as a supplement.
This one touches on all the flaws with the Stanford study and the Swedish stuff…
Cliff notes? I’m working and don’t have time to watch. What specifically was wrong with Stanford study? If I remember right they figured the virus was in the US long before the first reported case and many more people are carrying antibodies then first thought correct? Just today California confirmed their first death was 3 weeks before the first reported US death which kind of confirms that.
So many problems; too much to summarize. Cliff’s Notes: statistical error making it a useless study. His discussion on it starts around 7 minutes. Just watch it when you can goes in depth and worth watching. Before that he discusses Sweden, so it might be worth watching the entire thing.
https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/04/19/fatal-flaws-in-stanford-study-of-coronavirus-prevalence/
What’s also interesting is the Stanford study was published in the WSJ by an author who was one of the people who worked on the study. WSJ didn’t disclose it. Big conflict of interest and also suggests a wall st/financial motivation to getting that number down.
Weighing in on the Sweden thing:
One thing that I’m not hearing discussed is whether those additional deaths are truly preventable in the long term. To me that’s a fair and an open question. We believe that we’re 12-18 months away from a vaccine. Personally, I think that most of us will get exposed before that happens, no matter what the government does or doesn’t do. Maybe that’s cynical but it just seems realistic.
We’re not going to stay closed up for 12-18 months. And even if we tried to- the longer the restrictions remain, the more people will ignore them and do their own thing. The longer the current rules remain, the less compliance you’re going to see.
So a lot of this comes down to what you are really trying to accomplish. Are you trying to eradicate COVID-19 with no vaccine? That’s a pipe dream. Totally unattainable and unrealistic.
Or are you trying to flatten the curve and make sure that hospitals can keep up? That’s effectively what Sweden is doing. If most people are going to get infected anyway, and if hospital capacity is OK, what’s the point in extreme measures? You’re just delaying the inevitable.
Another factor for me is the non-economic cost of the shutdown. People whose health care is compromised by current measures. People who are very old or very sick, and don’t have much time left anyway. What about people with less than a year to live? They’d be the high risk of anyone, and yet it seems to me that most people would gladly assume that risk to be around their loved ones rather than spend their last days and weeks and months alone.
Side note:
Something that hasn’t been talked about nearly enough is many (most? all?) hospitals’ rules to ban family from visiting their dying loved ones (sometimes COVID infected, sometimes not). I could not oppose this more strongly. In many cases, the family members live with the patient, and odds are very good that they’re infected already. But even if not, you are depriving the patient of the ability to spend their last days/hours with their loved ones. Maybe worse, the loved ones will have to live with not being there for the rest of their lives.
This is appalling. This virus (and maybe no virus) does not justify this response. It’s barbaric. It’s dehumanizing. It is wrong, wrong, wrong. It is insane to me that anyone is OK with this.
Explain the risks to patient and visitors. Ensure consent. Set some ground rules. Require PPE. Assume that anyone leaving a patient’s room is infected. Heck maybe even make them live in there with the patient until they pass or are discharged. But figure something out. They deserve that much. Allowing loved ones present on your deathbed feels like a basic human right.
Check out the video above on Sweden. They’re a disaster. If you want to ask that question you have to ask it of every Country not just Sweden. Stanford study also a disaster.
I think the way to open the economy is to mandate everyone wears a facemask. That’s it. Herd immunity is 80% of population, and we’re at like 2%.
Fully agree on the facemask. And on any other reasonable measure. Much as it wish it wasn’t the case, large gatherings like football games would definitely fall into the category of unreasonable risk for any time in the near future.
I’ll watch the video later- at work now. Fair to say though that there’s a ton of unknowns surrounding how many people are currently or were previously infected. I personally know 5-10 people that were sick with mild symptoms that are completely consistent with COVID (none were tested or reported of course). Giveaway for me is very long (~2 week) duration and the smell/taste thing.
I’ve seen projections as high as 10% of the US now including asymptomatic and unreported cases. It’s probably not that high but we really don’t know. And I have to wonder where that number would be in 18 months, even if we did absolutely nothing and maintained the status quo.
10% is unlikely, but even if we say that’s true, it’s a long way from 80%. Open economy = mandatory masks/gloves. I’d be down with that.
Everyone please watch Martensen. He’s not partisan and gives dissects the science both ways (e.g. he’s pro hydroxychloroquine if it’s used early in treatment, even though the media just called it useless). Cliffs Notes: You can pretty much throw out all articles and studies. If you want to understand why everything being published is laughable/flawed watch the videos. I’ve noticed more and more flawed science over the past ten years.
Gloves aren’t really that useful. I see people at the grocery store touching their face with them on. For the day to day washing frequently is the better solution.
Gloves make you more aware of your hands. At least they do for me. And when I leave the store I can take them off and ditch them before I get to the car and use the hand sanitizer. I think they’re part of the solution, with a mask. Honestly if we mandate both of those I’d be on board with the people who want to open up. Most people I see are already wearing a mask and gloves, though, so I’m not sure we’d see a huge uptick in economic activity since people seem concerned enough to already do these things. I can’t see why they’d suddenly rush out and go to movie theaters or restaurants, etc. This idea of a huge boom in activity seems absurd, but I guess it’s possible. I know we’d be very slowly and cautiously start going out again. Probably over many months.
Ean. People seem to not understand the cross contamination part of gloves. Yes if you wear them all day they will protect you as long as you don’t touch your face etc. But the virus on the glove transferring to everything you touched all day is what’s the problem. Even with just washing and being diligent about not touching your face, you can still spread the virus by just touching stuff. Its almost a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation. Unless we develop telekinesis its spreading.
@Ean That’s like saying condoms are useless…if you wear them on your big toe.
I can see both perspectives. I tried gloves for a while and you forget you have them on, then you have to take them off and try to dispose of them, they get messy. When we go out we’ve got a protocol where we disinfect as we get in and out of the car, as well as wash hands and wipe down bottom of shoes before we enter the house. Once you have disinfectant wipes laying all over, ready to go, then get in the habit of not touching your face, etc. should take care of most infection routes. Couple this with a good face mask, and we are good to go.
They’re not supposed to go on the big toe? Now they tell me!
distancing and masks are here for quite a while. I’m good with that too.
Antibody sampling that have came out had mortality rate between .25-.5%. if you do the math based in mortality were between 3-8%. Mind you that’s based on pretty Shakey initial data and a moving target in terms of how many people in the US have died.
Stats lie
Exactly.
Stats are just numbers — it’s how we interpret them that leads to the lies — some people choose to deliberately interpret them incorrectly to promote their cause.
Edit: maybe we could even say MOST people…
Not really. A study or calculation can be modeled in a way to give the stats desired. We can interpret them exactly as presented, but they can still be way off because the model itself spitting out the stats was a bad design. The first thing I look at on any study is methodology. Everyone should. There’s not just politicalization of Covid, but now finance/Wall St are funding bad models to spit out stats they want.
This board and America at large often discuss the role this virus could play on colleges and college athletics but what about pro leagues?
Think about it, what is a safer long term investment than owning one a team in one of the Big 4 leagues? But if you currently own a team you are losing millions?
Add on the possible need for jobs potentially leading to a new civic interest and/or disinterest depending on the market as ‘job programs’ during a recession.
What will the Big 4 look like 10 years from now?
As of now the NFL seems well positioned (Labor peace and frankly it is the NFL) to ride it out and re-coup investment later even if it means a no fan season. But the other leagues could face labor issues and general ownership disruption.
Could they look to a quick influx of cash through expansion?
Change season and/or playoff formats?
All speculation of course but anything but politics…….
The FED will buy them.
Nah, they already have the Washington Generals running the show.
I’m not convinced that herd immunity is even possible with this virus. Is there any conclusive study showing that people who have had the virus cannot get it again? There are reports that the virus is mutating, as most viruses do, so the vaccine being developed now might be worthless by the time it’s ready. So you either should never leave your house again or you need to take appropriate precautions and go out as needed/wanted. I’m guessing it’s going to be the latter.
It’s probably safe to say there’s nothing conclusive study showing anything about the virus, lol. Lots of unknowns.
But that is a good point, for sure. An effective vaccine in 12-18 months is by no means a sure thing.
There’s a bunch of papers on Google scholar that touch on it. Mostly they say that getting it again is rare or a testing issue. For anti bodies to just not work would really defie conventional understanding of viral biology.
Mutation rates of Corona Viruses is generally pretty slow. There is two know strains at this point for Covid 19.
That’s certainly one take. Thanks
Some are just desperate for attention and they’ll post anything just to get it. Of course what they don’t realize is…..they just really don’t get it.
So you just did it. Congrats Swammster. You win the prize
Like I just posted, “they just really don’t get it.”
You haven’t for years. Thanks for finally confirming it
Muffet quits Irish WBB.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29083572/muffet-mcgraw-steps-women-basketball-coach-notre-dame?platform=amp
So Rueck has a chance now. Great!
How many national titles does Graves have? I think Rueck and Graves have the same number.
Rueck has a national championship.
Thanks for correcting me. I overlooked that 32-0 season and selected national coach of the year. Probably another reason some are jealous of his success.
We all know who would have won it this year. It was just a formality. They were head and shoulders above your team and everyone else. We will just leave it at that. That burns you I know but its the truth. Scott is a great coach but couldn’t beat the skirt and scarf from ND. O’fer
Louisville would have been a great National Champion in women’s hoops…you’re right.
Not to mention South Carolina having something to say about it. Still no National Championship for the Ducks or for Sabrina or Graves or the rest of them. “We all know who would have won it this year….” LOL….Louisville….ASU…..more than enough said. Looks like Sabrina will still have unfinished business that will never get finished at UofO….That must really burn Fanny something fierce……you know….thinking the Ducks would have won it when that will never be proven….EVER!
Fortunately Uncle Phil can’t buy championshupis…..yet. Take “NO” for an answer!
Gonna be another sad day for swammi tomorrow with Herbert going at least 5-6 rounds before brokeback Luton.
Doesn’t bother me at all but I prefer him to go to the Chargers vs. Miami. The fact that Luton will get drafted after a horrific spinal injury that you seem to take personal satisfaction in, just shows how some people just don’t get it but then again, no big surprise. Let’s hope Herbert has a better career than Mario-TAH has had so far although I’m still rooting for MM. Hang in here kid, you’ll figure it out eventually or not.
It doesn’t matter where Herbert goes, because all 32 teams are horribly run and will wreck what should have been an All-Pro career that Sherbert would have had if he didn’t go to such an incompetent franchise.
The fact that swammi still spells Mariota’s name wrong like some sort of half wit just confirms how much Mariota’s and the Ducks success tore him up. Hysterical. Just one more player that never lost to the hapless beavs. SC was a joke. Ducks would have blown them out just like they blew everyone else out. Even on her worst day (Kobe’s death) the hapless beavs had no answer for her. Lmao
ND would not meet her demands for curds and whey.
COVID thought I had this morning: anti-Lockdown folks keep pointing to mortality rate as the indicator that “it’s not that bad.” There have been reports of other serious long-term consequences of contracting the virus that don’t get brought up (permanent lung damage, testicle damage, etc.) I haven’t seen much attention on these in the media, either, and they seem to be mostly absent from the public debate.
Unfortunately, the problem is, like with so many other aspects of this crisis, a lack of data.
Covid toe, too! I’m hearing increased stroke/clotting in young people. But who knows…most of this is observation. We’re seeing bad the science behind these reports…not surprising since there are agendas and people are now using something posing as “science” to back said agendas.
The increase in stroking is mainly due to boredom.
Haha. I actually heard there’s been a huge spike in porn site memberships since the “stimulus” checks went out…
If one could invest in those, that’s where I would be putting my money :)
Cancers are sometimes associated with viruses too. Hope not but we won’t know for years or even a decade or more.
Auto immune diseases can be triggered by the stress of something like covid. Mine was triggered by a long string of strep.
anyone wanting data on the push back to the extreme counter measures should check out the swing state survey on the CNBC web site.
Junk data.
CNBC is the most biased, wall st backed news outlet out there. Probably worse then the WSJ. Pompoms and skirts should be mandatory dress code.
I’ll have to check who their polling partner was.
edit: Change Research. Anecdotally, the survey lines up with the lock down resistance that is becoming ubiquitous.
Anecdotally, the survey lines up with the lock down resistance that is becoming ubiquitous..
Does it? Or is it just better print/video to show a small mob protesting with signs (“be like Sweden!”) than the many more millions sitting in their homes doing improvements, yard work, taking more walks, drinking, signing up for porn sites, etc? The latter is boring and not sensational or political, so even though many more are doing these things and seem fine with it for now, it gets no print.
Summary?
the number of people who think the lock down is too restrictive in their respective states is 4 or 5x what it was two weeks ago.
Methodology? Who was polled, randomness, how many people, who funded the study, etc?
can’t tell, it’s a video clip, not a print report.
2 weeks ago, 10 people showed up at the governor’s house(amazon delivery guy, fedex guy, grubhub driver, the governor, etc..)
This week, 50 people showed up, and some had flags and signs.
Conclusion, 5x as many people are upset now, and if you don’t agree with them, you must hate the American flag. It’s friggin science!
Lol, NB…exactly. Every flat Earther in WV is suddenly a scientists who cares about hard data.
The most basic error in any study is correlation vs causation…it’s on steroids right now.
What are the numbers now and a few weeks ago. I personally think some of the restrictions went too far. Particularly the closing of trails.
The problem with trails is you can’t keep 6ft apart, although I do think that sucks…
People need open spaces when shacked up for days at a time.
True, though I mountain bike mostly and there are a few trails open that are mostly directional. You rarely see other people on directional trails. Got up early last Saturday and rode and closest I got to anyone was maybe 100′.
Compliance does not equate to approval. I think some are now sharing their disapproval a little more than initially.
Hey BeeG: who do want the Pack to take tonight, by position or name, and how do you think they’ll go with it? Maybe Herbert will drop like Rodgers did?
OT to replace Bulaga or a legit speed receiver to pair with D Adams. Rodger’s time is running down, he needs a weapon to open things up. Lots of WR’s in the draft, so probably an OT if there is a good one to be had when they draft. I have not followed the draft stuff at all except some the local stuff with the Gopher players.
I am going to put out my Packer flag to piss off the neighbors.
I have a zoom meeting at 9 and thought I’d put on my Packer green and yellow checked shirt for the occasion.
Anyone watch the videos I posted above? Well worth the time to get your heads around what good/bad data looks like and actual critical thinking. Moving forward, none of us should post any “scientific” papers or conclusions without citing the methodology/actual study. I’ve been saying the problem all along is bad data – “garbage in, garbage out.” And many are using that to forward their agenda (mostly financial/political, which are so intertwined right now it’s almost the same thing). We seriously just saw an influential “Stanford Study” that was published in the WSJ by a guy who was on the study using the worse Chinese test kits one could find. Can’t make it up. Sweden article also a total joke. Assume all data is either massed or the study was biased to spit out numbers it wanted from the start.
Havent had the chance. They are my watch list for tonight.
It was a good video. Found it interesting that Chris didn’t state the upper end of the confidence interval for the Stanford study… Suppose we all have are biases. But I think most people realized the Stanford study was flawed from the start. Real good stuff though.
I watched the one on the shortcomings of the Stanford study. Thought he laid out a solid case for doubting the objectivity of the authors.
Really disappointed in Stanford here, gotta wonder what Hank thinks.
I asked him: https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1253364499299438592
that’s a solid recommendation Angry.
Also, I’m looking to short GDX and GDXJ (gold miners) — my logic is they’re getting a larger than deserved bid because of the mines shutting down and oil issues. Oil storage should be somewhat resolved in a few months. June puts seem a good bet. I haven’t landed any yet, but I have some bids in. So anyone, like that Take me to your Leader weirdo, who thinks I’m always bullish gold, nope. In the long-run, yes, but I don’t see this miner stock rally lasting past June even if the gold price remains pretty stable (it should remain above 1625-50). Maybe even May. If overall stock market retraces, and they should, people will sell gold winnings to meet margin calls, too. I’m kinda bearish on coins here, too, due to premiums. Better off buying GLD and waiting for premiums to drop. Even though GLD is pretty awful, it should be okay for a few months until the premiums drop. High premiums is one of the few times GLD is okay.
https://m.jpost.com/health-science/coronavirus-has-mutated-into-at-least-30-different-strains-new-study-finds-625333/amp
Not sure on the source or the study but this is real interesting and some pretty major ramifications if true.
11 randomly tested patients, non peer reviewed, and they don’t post a link to the study. You can stop reading there…
Though, we do know pretty much all viruses mutate. We’ve seen some anecdotal evidence there might be more mutations in the degrees and response of people. Some people get ravaged by corona and some don’t. Take a virus like HPV…there are over 100 strains, and we know some are benign and some cause cancer. There was a “vaccine” for the strains that cause cancer a few years back. Women where encouraged to get it. How has that worked? I’m not sure, but I’d wager it’s mutating around that and still causing cancer.
I expect something like this with corona. But not because of that study; just because it’s how viruses operate. This thing is going to be a problem for a while even when we reopen. There won’t be good data for years. My guess is the best data (though it too will be flawed) right now is being held at the government level in every Country, and they’re not releasing that for obvious reasons. They should release it so the public can be informed and make their own decisions on their health risks, but they won’t.
Well to be fair nothing is peer reviewed yet. That takes a ton of time and I think there should be an avenue for releasing info before peer review, though it should be clearly stated as such. Not sure why sample size would matter in this regard either since a virus is either identical or not. Though it is hard to believe they found 30 different strains in 11 people… Just strikes me as fishy all around.
Honest question:
What are the “obvious reasons” why governments wouldn’t share the best data that’s available? You’re thinking they’re trying to control the populace by controlling the narrative?
Governments don’t like panicked citizens or admitting blame (e.g. China). Germany is linking any covid death where the person had an underlying to the underlying. They can then report low numbers. Obvious because governments throughout history lie in this way about all kinds of things. Yes, control the narrative, too. Same thing really.
Great front page story in today’s WSJ on the federal response timeline. Since I can’t provide a link even if I knew how (paywall), here’s a few highlights.
Central figure is Anthony Azar, HHS sec., who has notably been absent from daily briefings since April 3.
“Interviews with more than two dozen administration officials involved in the effort show that Mr. Azar waited for weeks to brief the president on the threat, oversold his agency’s progress in the early days and didn’t coordinate effectively across the health care divisions under his purview.”
“CDC’s Redfield alerted Azar on January 3. Azar asked the NSC to monitor what was happening in China, but waited two weeks to brief the president on the potential severity, calling him to assure him the agency was ready to handle any cases in the U.S. Mr. Trump dismissed coronavirus concerns as alarmist,” though Azar denied that.
On Jan. 28 Azar “assured the president that everything was under control.”
“For weeks, HHS blocked efforts to allow other labs’ involvement because Mr. Azar wanted the CDC to make and distribute the nation’s diagnostic tests.”
The CDC lab that produced the tests “was a mess and it became clear the tests had likely been contaminated.” All February “Azar gave no indication there was a problem with testing” and “Azar continued to assure the president and the rest of the task force that HHS had the situation under control.”
“Redfield never gave Azar a timeline for when the testing would be fixed because he didn’t know what was causing the problem.”
Feb. 25, Nancy Messonier, a CDC official suddenly announced “the agency was preparing for a potential pandemic.” That same day Azar said the outbreak was “contained.” Trump was flying back from India that day. The next day he put Pence in charge of the task force. Ever since FEMA not HHS has been the lead response agency.
And who appointed Azar?
“All the best people”
Or is the President no longer responsible for the actions and/or inactions of those he hires?
of course he’s responsible, and he did the responsible thing. Azar screwed up and was replaced.
LOL….
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
If this was a private company that you were invested in I doubt you’d support the CEO after letting a VP fuck up at such a critical time.
But you gonna keep supporting the incompetent President who ignored exactly that happening in his government.
Pathetic.
Anger at the media > rationality.
Override function in place and triggered.
Anger about their irrationality =< anger at the media. It's all emotions. Reality is that Trump has done a great job manipulating emotions/human flaws. Operation Infektion in action.
BTW, care to define “replace”?
Azar is still in Trump’s cabinet and in the same role?
How has he been replaced?
Or do you just mean replaced at Trump’s daily rally?
I try not to blame Trump for everything, a President can only do so much, a country has many moving parts and the president is one person. That being said the president sets the tone and the culture. Many of his cabinet members appear to be hesitant to tell the guy hard truths. People seem to tell him what he wants to hear instead. It is apparent the ones that have survived this administration profusely praise the president and sugar coat or ignore bad news. That to me is a dangerous situation.
And that would be fine if said President didn’t sell himself as the guy with all the solutions.
Do you deny Trump claimed “I alone can fix the system”?
For the record, he said those exact 6 words on July 21, 2016.
Appears he was lying?
How about, he appears to be wrong? But he does know how to get people in a twist. Though some are surely easier than others, dont you think?
And “getting people in a twist” is a good thing for a President to do?
Okay…..
Frankly the fact that you can’t even admit the obvious truth (that Donald Trump lies freely and about everything big or small) just proves how brainwashed you are.
that’s a fair assessment, Ean.
The only “fair assessment” you believe in is “As long as you blame someone, anyone but Trump you are making a fair assessment.
Trump is infallible.
LOL.
Fucking cult.
Wall St Journal has no credibility. They lost me having the Stanford scientist public the Stanford paper without disclosing he was involved in the study. Banned.
I could be wrong but I think the Stanford piece was an op-ed not a news story. The Journal is certainly more reliable than (take your pick) CNN or Fox, which seems to be where most people are getting their news.
Yes op-ed, but they didn’t disclose that op-ed writer worked on the very study he was peddling.
Andrew Bogan wrote the op-ed.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-data-suggest-the-coronavirus-isnt-as-deadly-as-we-thought-11587155298
Andrew Bogon worked on the “study”
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1
Murdoch owned stuff doesn’t have much sway with me. Sometimes you will see hit pieces show up in 3 different sources published within a few minutes of each other. All with different authors authors who magically come to the same conclusion in their independent report/investigation.
Similar report written two weeks ago. Azar was not favored by Trump in January because he brought the COVID possibilities.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html
This comes from CNBC and NYC so it has to be “bad data” and “stats lie”. Angry continues to back himself into a corner as he flails around attacking anyone who questions his emotional gut feelings. The funny thing is Angry and Trump seem to have a similar approach to coming to conclusions. Hows that for irony. Lol
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/23/new-york-antibody-study-estimates-13point9percent-of-residents-have-had-the-coronavirus-cuomo-says.html
Those numbers seem plausible… But if true means herd immunity is a long way away, seeing as NYC is on of the bigliest hot spots in the country.
Sure, that’s what is happening. Talk about backing yourself into a corner then you post CNBC articles and articles about Sweden…
So 14% have antibodies and 18k are dead.
Just another 80k dead friends and relatives and we get to herd immunity! Such winning! (In one part of the country.)
What? Everything I have read says 50-80% for herd immunity. Or you mean that 2-4% of Americans have had it so far? Those numbers wouldn’t necessarily contradict the NY study though, since NY almost certainly has a higher infection rate.
Yeah Martenson said we’re probably around 2% with 4% possible on the high end. It doesn’t necessarily contradict NY, but it means we’re far from herd. Herd depends on R0, to my understanding, but generally is 75-90%…he put it at 80% for Covid. Nobody knows how long that immunity will last or how it will matter after mutations. So there’s that.
I think the problem is way bigger than people think. Way more questions than answers, and yet people think they have answers. We seem to be in this phase of wishing it away because the reality sucks. Kind of like a Beav football season.
60% is the theoretical low required to start getting practical herd effects.
Lock down related?
Naw, just a tip of the cap to OSP. “Routine” traffic stops net results on I-5. Note, running from the cops is NOT an approved method of “social distancing”
4-17-20: MP33 stop nets 7.2 lbs cocaine and 3.5 oz heroin. Marisol Torres Cervantes (50) from Vancouver Washington ends up in the Jackson county lock-up.
4-18-20: MP63 stop nets $62,649 in U.S. currency and 17.1 grams of Cocaine. Rey David Aguilera-Limon and Luis Fernando Herrera-Limon join Torres Cevantes in the lock-up.
Gotta wonder if Brandon Boice, Jonathan Smith’s escort at home FB games had a hand in the intell that led to these apprehensions. Come to think of it, will Smith have to accept a Beaver rent-a-cop now that Ray has, in a so very pc move, dropped OSP?
They must have been racially profiled and surely are innocent.
A couple of weeks back we were talking about when sports may come back and what that would look like and I was imagining we would start seeing temperature scans of people entering stadiums, to help keep contagious people out of large crowds.
Now Disneyland is considering adding temp scans for guests entering the parks, as a new precaution. Sounds like this is already common practice and will be part of the Shanghai parks’ reopening.
If you though it took a long time to get into sporting events before, I could see this doubling that. Nobody will want to go to live events anymore and just opt to stay home and watch on TV.
I’m looking forward to the first twitter freakout video of a fan being told they can’t enter the new Las Vegas Raiders stadium on opening day because they have a 99.4 temp. Somebody in that queue is going to get murdered.
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/04/07/disneyland-could-institute-temperature-screenings-after-coronavirus-shutdown/
WSN will be happy he can take the wife back to Disneyland in the near future.
He wouldn’t be admitted dude has to run at more than 98.6 all the time.
I believe most places taking temperatures would let you in at 99.4. It’s gotta be higher than that to be denied entrance (heard the number the other day on TV but can’t find it online, wanna say it was like 101.3 but that is just a guess, it was in the hundreds though).
99.5 is the number South Korea is using for flights so that is probably the number they are using for businesses too.
Wonder what number I heard the other day?
Oh well, wanted to get the correct information and that is all I can find.
It wasn’t so much the threshold I was posting about, as it was the pushback from Raider fan. Either way, someone is going to die. If it’a not the fans sitting near the feverish Raider fan, it will be the fans standing in line near the feverish fan when they get told to go home and they go into a violent rage. Collateral damage
I doubt we will see fans in stands until at least 2021.
Disneyland could operate at a lower capacity and do social distancing measures, temperature checks, and requiring masks to decrease the risk.
I don’t see how a stadium could make that work. Do season ticket holders each get to attend one game?
I am sure they are exploring options but full stadiums won’t be a thing anytime soon in my opinion. But yeah, the Raiders and Vegas are a match made in heaven (or hell?)
https://mobile.twitter.com/Anxious_Matt/status/1253373384399835140
Cuomo laying into McConnell over his comments about states filing bankruptcy yesterday.
Red states are the true welfare queens in America
From an Op-ed in the Washington Post today written by Michael Gerson (R):
For some of us, the ideal is more on the model of Christian social teaching — solidarity with the vulnerable, respect for value-shaping institutions, care for creation, the embrace of refugees and immigrants, and support for government that seeks the common good. This was basically the ideological framework for George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign (read his Philadelphia convention speech for proof). This was also once characteristic of a certain kind of Catholic Democrat.
Neither political party currently measures up to this ideal, nor cares to. But Joe Biden was shaped by it. While his policy views can be quite liberal, his political muscle memory comes from the Catholic social-justice tradition. He is, as his critics charge, a throwback. But to a saner time, with superior options. The beginning of reform for Republicans might be a vote for the Democratic candidate.
I ask this question most sincerely of Republicans on this board–is this an acceptable viewpoint?, or is there no middle ground remaining?
I’m not a Republican. In fact I was talking to my Democratic congressman two days ago when he was calling for money. (it happens.) Anyway, to your point Homefry, I told him it was unfortunate that Biden had allowed himself to be intimidated by the post-modern identity politics crowd and forced into an apology for saying he had worked with Republicans before, had friends on the other side, etc. He agreed. I think Joe’s instincts are good, I like the notion of the Catholic Democrat (as a reader of Commonweal myself), but I’m afraid he truly is losing his faculties. That’s why his choice of VP is critical. If he picks a strident type–Harris, Warren, Abrams–I don’t think his moderate brand will survive the noise. Klobuchar and Cuomo better fit the Catholic Democrat mold though I don’t think Amy is Catholic.
PS: Homefry–thanks for rescuing the thread. Youngorst had pretty much killed it off with more of tiresome screeds.
Wanna thanks for posting about Cuomo daily pressers awhile ago, I’ve been enjoying them for a while, and like the q and a’s. And I‘m a registered r
F: yep, they’re great. good information, solid presentation, and a helpful dose of humor goes a long ways in these times.
You post bullshit propaganda to defend your king than refuse to answer simple questions.
Azar is still in Trump’s cabinet.
How is that okay? Beyond you think Trump is infallible
Do I have to remind you that I was the one who posted the story from the WSJ that was critical of Trump? C’mon Man.
VP is going to be the deal breaker on the election. Klobuchar or Whitmer would be my choices…It’s surprising lately how much write-up Warren has been getting.
am I the only one who thinks Whitmer looks like Snow White? only more severe.
There is no middle ground with the modern Republican Party.
They only care about power and don’t care how they get it.
Btw, agree about W.
I am definitely not a Republican nor will I ever vote for one again after what I’ve seen from them under the obviously incompetent and criminal current President. If you can’t separate yourself from him you have moral failings as a human and I will never vote for you.
I guess Romney has a shot.
But to the larger point, I don’t agree with people claiming Biden has abandoned this for “identity politics”. That is just Foxnews bullshit.
Joe Biden is exactly the guy in that article claims to want. Frankly most of the Democrats are also like this. And so were most Republicans prior to Gingrich and McConnell taking over the party and turning it into what it is in 2020. A Christian cult dedicated to Confederate values that only cares about staying in power and whose God is the stock market, hell, people at protests are holding signs that say ‘Work is Freedom’ without any clue where it comes from (I sincerely hope they are clueless).
Democrats have flaws, lots of them. But this idea that neither side will work with the other is fake news.
Democrats worked with Reagan, Bush Sr, W, and have worked with Trump on all kinds of issues. They all got their tax cuts and wars. Republicans refused to do anything with Clinton and Obama. Is providing Americans health care really so evil that you refuse to even negotiate? The problem is that to modern conservatives if you oppose them on anything you are an enemy to America.
Let’s look at a few examples.
Republicans when campaigning say they want a strong legal immigration system, most (even Trump) say they support DACA. So why is passing a immigration reform or at least codify DACA into law? Back in 2016 Trump could have gotten wall funding for passing DACA and Republicans still refused, why?
Meanwhile Democrats have given Trump his tax cut, gave him a new NAFTA, and passed the largest stimulus in history to bail out “his” economy
Nothing tells the story better than stimulus 2009 vs. stimulus 2020.
2009, the GOP fought Obama till the bitter end and only 2 Republicans supported it (both chambers, look it up if you don’t believe me) and Democrats lost power in 2010 because Democrats spent too much money saving the economy.
2020, Trump get’s a tremulous that is 3 times the size with voice votes in both Houses of Congress. And guess who will get blamed for the debt if Biden wins?
Oh but Democrats are the jerks for fighting Trump on Kavanaugh, forgetting Republicans wouldn’t even consider Obama’s nominee.
There is bad on both sides but our system is broken mostly because of Newt Gingrich and Mitch McConnell. Donald Trump is the inevitable result of the system Newt and Mitch broke.
Some sad news for our new quack troll…
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/great-black-hills-duck-race-cancelled-due-to-covid-19/article_db15086e-fbd7-52c3-b40a-dcd184ec5012.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
All you Beaver fans do is talk about the ducks..blah blah blah rent free in your head blah blah blah we woulda won the race anyway, you know it blah blah blah sabrina is the Jordan of WBB even though more than 99% of the people in this country couldn’t pick her out in a lineup blah blah blah
Says the guy trolling an Oregon State website…
on this we agree, Orst. guy acts like the last four months hasn’t happened.
Ironically your talking about the Beavs on a beaver site. Go get your pedophilia fix. U creepy ass “20 years hs ball coach” talking about little boy genitalia.
I think its a fake troll account. Someone is trolling the troll. Similar to the JacksFatWife one from years past.
I thought maybe cuz the O
I’m a HS coach. It’s my job to inspect genitalia.
What’s been nice is I get to do it from the privacy of my home now, on Zoom.
You sure talk about little boy parts a lot. That’s gross. Are you on the same watchlist as Heimlich? Are you registered too like he is?
You aren’t even remotely creative “fann0”. Do better.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/politics/michael-caputo-tweets/index.html
All the best people…..
Agreed–Sadly, I can predict Trump’s reply “I don’t know the guy”
Questions for Angry, have you considered charging folks per post? Also, if someone gets enough dislikes do they go into the penalty box similar to hockey where they have to sit out and bite their tongue for say 12 hours?
I’ve read a book to my students a few times called “My Mouth is a Volcano!”. I linked it for those interested during this fun time of dealing with your own kids. It’s great for helping people of all ages realize they don’t have to say (type) everything that comes into their perfectly amazingly opinionated brain.
My Mouth Is A Volcano https://www.amazon.com/dp/1931636850/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BJHOEb0410YEG
Received an email from the Spaghetti Factory of all places, letting me know they will be opening all of their restaurants effective April 24th.
I guess the floodgates have been opened?
“Dear OSF Friends & Family,
We’re excited to announce that we will be re-opening all 42 of our USA based Old Spaghetti Factory restaurants on Friday, April 24th 2020! We are looking forward to serving our community and will be offering to-go, delivery, and catering options.
We will be practicing strict social distancing and wearing company provided masks. In addition, most of our restaurants will be offering contactless curbside pickup!
To place an order, please go online to OSF.com or order with any of our delivery partners like Uber Eats, Post Mates, and more!
Locations will be open for Dinner service Friday April 24th and will resume regular dining hours thereafter.
For each location’s menu, hours of operation, and to place an online order, please visit OSF.com.
We want to thank all of our team members and communities for their continued support!”
My bad, I read it wrong. They must have never been providing the to go option throughout the shutdown. Carry on.
I saw Applebee’s was offering to go food too. The get your order, take the food out of a box, heat it up, put it in a to go box, then you take it home and it probably needs a bit more heat. You could skip all the hassle and just buy a freezer meal at the grocery store.
Culinary distancing is appropriate for Applebee’s.
How do you eat spaghetti through a face mask?
Suck really hard…
That’s what he said.
Just catching up, swamped today.
Should I ban the Duck troll? His RealDoll is feeling neglected so it’s win win.
The little fella won’t have anybody to play with except himself if you ban him. Plus, he will just create multiple accounts like he did on hacklive. Go ahead and ban him if you want to as this is your blog. I don’t think anyone will miss the little fella….
Herbert goes #6 swammi. I know it breaks your heart. Will brokebackLuton have his name called or will he go undrafted? They don’t tolerate forearm bruise excuses in the man’s league
Do they tolerate horrible accuracy? Anytime Mariota threw the ball I knew he had a good chance to complete it. Anytime Herbert threw the ball I was glad and so was ASU. Jamarcus Russell got drafted high. So did trabisky. So did…
A wise man would wait to run his mouth until his lover takes a meaningful snap or 10 before running his mouth.
You’re basing your football analcyst on one ASU game? I feel bad for you. So what you’re saying is that literally every GM, NFL coach, real analyst and owner knows less than you? Got it. Good luck with that but I would just keep your gas station job bud.
Better question is, why would you be glad every time he threw a pass. Typical beav….rooting against a Duck more than rooting for your own team. You do understand that if you cheer for your own team, it may rally them to perform better right? Or at least find some enthusiasm to play?
That was my preference for Marilyn too
Do the creative A&A editing on him. I always loved that.
He adds nothing
If you ban me, your blog will be worse for it. That’s what my wife of 18 years tells me. He has alot of wisdom for a 33 year old, so I trust his opinion more than anybody.
So your wife is a 33 year old male that you’ve been married to for 18 years?
I hope Angry records IP addresses so you can be arrested.
What’s the matter Angry? You ban people that obviously pull your trigger and don’t agree with you? Pretty wimpy but expected. Swammi is mistaken. I only had one name on Olive. Swammi on the other hand had over 50. And every one of them offered zip.
Plenty of people on here disagree with him from time to time. He just bans douchbags.
So you’re next then eh? You are one angry little fella
How am I angry? I could care less if you post here or not. I love laughing at clueless duck fans, especially ones that think they’re edgy. Now go ahead and make some half-assed edgy reply, you know you can’t help yourself.
Couldn’t care less or could care less? I can never remember. Little help blackbandito? I agree, you’re not angry at all
Sure thing….here’s just a few that you had: Garrett, 4underafter3, Eliteduck, fanno, …you had at least 100 different monikers in play over the last 2-3 years alone….sheesh…..you used multiple monikers on the same day on more than one occasion. You sure have a selective memory kid.
I have never heard of any of those people. You have quite the imagination Grapesmarmi. 4underafter3 is a pretty good score though and good on you for being creative with that screen name. You sound credible
I’m hoping when you post stuff, your face isn’t too close to the monitor because if it is, your nose is going to poke a hole in it. We both know you used over 100+ monikers on OregonLive so why is it so hard for you to be honest about it. I guess the truth is a hard thing for you to admit.
While I don’t normally support banning people, I wouldn’t miss this one. Go for it
So much for being a NiceBeaver. Just relax. You guys get so worked up. Can dish but can’t take I guess
If you guys haven’t checked out the gentleman yet it’s pretty rad. Well directed whit awesome storytelling that twists and turns. Lots of action and some humor as well. Check it out.
I prefer chicks….but check out guys if you like. You go boy!
“You go boy” doesn’t sound like something a guy who likes girls would say.
I wanted to give you affirmation to avoid a down vote:)
Accidental down vote. Guy Peirce back to what he does best! Fun ride for sure
Think you mean Guy Ritchie. But Iyes i agree.
Yes I did! Haha
Top three picks all played at tOSU. Urban could recruit.
And pay
That was my first thought…didn’t he just pay all those guys?
Identify talent
Pay? All three of those guys are studs.
Another Angry Coronavirus prediction that did not age very well. The hits keep on coming.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-trump-idUSKCN2253SA
Viruses don’t handle UV light. Everybody knows this. But that doesn’t mean it won’t spread some during the summer and come back full strength in the fall.
Good lord.
It sounds like I should drink more alcohol on the weekends.
While laying in a tanning bed?
with a hot shower running in the back ground.
So, who will the Chargers draft in the first round at QB 3 years from now?
Poor guy, really tears you up doesn’t it. Don’t worry Pam, you only have to wait 3 more to see if brokebackluton will have his name called. I hope his forearm bruise is better
Fannos broskies: hey Fanno What did you
Do during the draft?
Fanno: oh I was hanging out on a beaver blog. I had so many funny comebacks. It was basically the same one over and over about Luton. They were so mad they banned me. Best. Night. Ever.
You are triggered. What did you do on draft night? Krol- I kept posting to someone who angered me because I have nothing better to do
Nah I don’t get worked up over things like a little banter. I love the commentary on here. I’ve been following for more than 6 days. Love ya, Keep it coming!
Who’s Pam? My name’s Karen.
Rip Chargers
#6 Biotch. Soak it in
Good thing he came back another year!
He would have been 1st or 2nd if he would have not come back. But some things are more important. Like playing with your brother and loyalty to team. I think it worked out pretty well. College football Academic Athlete of the year, beat the Fuskies, beat the Rodents yet again and won the Rose Bowl. Again. Good for him!
Jockitchsmell- Herbert had 3 TDs in the Rose Bowl. Have you ever been to one? the Pac-12 Champs had a great year despite Breeland being injured. May have been in the playoffs again had he been there. Bummer
Wiscy lost the Rose Bowl to a team that barely got over 200 yards….turnovers will do that — better teams lose all the time.
Duck football is a minor league team owned by Phil Knight. You can take that to Uncle Phil’s bank! Ha! When calling for your breakfast, don’t forget to adjust your gag-ball, mom’s hate it when they can’t hear you (basement acoustics suck!), and your food gets cold.
Minor league? Their international brand exposure begs to differ. What is less than minor league? That would be where beaver football sits.
Paying players with $$$, t-shirts and shoes, thanks Phil for making us professional!
Please link your information. I am sure the FBI would want to know. Bahahaha
Trump just asked if you can use disinfectant to kill the virus inside a body.
Let me guess, he’s just playing and being Trump and smart people just don’t get it?
I we suppose to take him literally or seriously for this one? The rules of living in a cult confuse me.
Just drink the Kool aid. And by drink I mean inject and by Kool add I mean bleach.
Hey what do you have to lose? Other than a stable heart rhythm.
Same guy who thought clean coal was when they take the coal out of the ground and they clean it. Like you would clean your dishes.
Like wiping a hard drive. You know, with a rag.
We all just need magnetized haha
This is really unfair mischaraterization of what he said Angry. It appears he is referring to using UV, or some other higher energy wave length, internally to kill the virus. This is genius stuff because a great delivery system would be fiberoptics with a small error in the angle for index of refraction. This is brilliant because if we insert badly manufactured fiber optic wire into major veins and arteries we can increase peoples bandwidth (not everyone knows this but some people are saying humans have bad bandwidth), get rid of our strategic supply of bad fiber optic wire and kill the virus without any side effects what so ever. Name one time high energy bandwidths of light hurt anyone that wasn’t a loser.
Dunno. Heard it from a friend. Just looked it up, and it sounds like zero mischaracterization.
He added: “I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”
He didn’t specify the kind of disinfectant.
Medical professionals, including Dr. Vin Gupta, a pulmonologist, global health policy expert and an NBC News and MSNBC contributor. were quick to challenge the president’s “improper health messaging.”
“This notion of injecting or ingesting any type of cleansing product into the body is irresponsible and it’s dangerous,” said Gupta. “It’s a common method that people utilize when they want to kill themselves.”
Was my satire too powerful?
He’s a an idiot. He just told the world to ingest disinfectant on live tv. The two most common disinfectants are bleach (chlorine based) and ammonia which are both poisons. If you combine them you make chlorine gas.
Actually someone just posted an article about alcohol killing the virus better then bleach. Maybe trump wants everyone to get drunk.
I’m down with that. Gotta be 70% plus to really do the job from what I have read. Weird stance for a guy who doesn’t drink though.
Oh I drink. Not necessarily all the time, but every once in a while I hit some bourbon or a nice porter or stout. Strangely enough, I haven’t drank a drop of alcohol since covid19 hit the states. What better time then now? Im just not really interested in it.
@BB, no I meant Trump, he says he hasn’t drank since his brother died or something.
As for not drinking…maybe slowing down the hustle and bustle has given you less stress to mitigate? More time out in the sun or with the family giving you good feels? There’s lots of positives to this mess.
I’m not really a stress drinker. More of a stress eater. Drinking is more social for me, mostly the beer. I enjoy bourbon for the flavors mostly, but never go passed half a low ball glass. College was a different story.
I think I’m more in a surreal state then stressed at our current situation. I’ve been to town several times in the last few weeks (other then work), and everything seem like a movie. Just seeing other people in masks going about their business like nothing is wrong is so strange. Then you see the 1 or 2 older people with no protection and I think “are you fucking crazy”. Its so weird. We live in strange times.
Outstanding!
Edit: meant for NB
Here I am responding to political bullshit. Oh well. Nothing to do before Corona kills us all.
TDS has so fucked liberals in the head that they have lost the ability to understand analogy in speech even when it is as plain as daylight.
Because you are all simple minded, Trump says: there’s this thing where disinfecting surfaces can kill coronavirus, then wonders if there is a way we can do something LIKE that, by injection inside, ALMOST a cleaning.
Sort of like, you know, this thing the FDA just approved for use with Coronavirus: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-blood-purification-device-treat-covid-19
In reply to MB: Fail.
Unless your post was meant to be sarcastic. I didn’t know the game now is to NOT listen to what Trump says, but to parse and interpret his words through Ouiji boards, tarot cards, and angel dust.
And people are worried about Biden’s mental state?
“…but to parse and interpret his words through Ouiji boards, tarot cards, and angel dust.“
None of the above required. I had to go through that process to interpret a simple analogy for you. Let’s repeat the part where he never told the American people to do this: “something LIKE that, by injection inside, ALMOST a cleaning?”.
To the person below regarding the link I posted you clearly cannot see that blood filtration is a cleaning method. Or say UV light therapy and nanobots (yes these exist and work).
It’s disheartening this board as gone off the rails now that there is nothing OSU related. All politics and Trump (and republican) bashing. I might as well be reading CNN here. Peace out. Angry you typically are level-headed and on the middle ground and I see you join in on this circle jerk.
Haven’t joined any circle jerk.
Democrats are a disaster, too.
That link is for cytokine storms. Basically a special form of dialysis to clean out aggressive cytokines. Cytokine storms is only a problem for 3-5% of people with serious covid symptoms . It’s not a disinfectant it’s filtration. It does not filter the virus or destroy it.
If 80 million people are all simple minded it may be the case that you just don’t understand them.
Filter. Disinfect. Extract. Inject. Cytokine. Virus.
They’re all interchangeable. He’s not a doctor, he’s just a guy with a good you-know-what. Cut him some slack.
He even got the light therapy part right. Who knew absorbing vitamin D via sunlight through the skin would be the cure? It’s genius. Friggin’ science.
Herbert to Chargers is a pretty good fit.
We can agree on that Angry
Chargers were proactive. They have already played games with no fans in the stadium.
Chargers need him to be good. I’ll root for him. My hate ends when they leave the college.
Draft has gone chalk so far.
I hate the Chargers for screwing their fans in San Diego. Same goes for the Raiders.
Meh, Raider fans don’t seem to care.
And teams play once a week. As someone from Central Oregon I don’t feel too bad for people that need to drive a couple hours 8 times a year. And the Chargers were in Los Angeles before moving to San Diego anyway….
That said, I have no ill will towards fans of either team that are mad.
Unless it’s of course anyone that’s not a statist.
Define statist…I bet you’d be shocked at how many things we agree on….
Back to the draft…
Hate over college football players/teams youngorst? In today’s world there are so many better ways in which you can focus your energy. Check it out! I’m rooting for you
the fuck irony in this post….
I hope you don’t miss any BP meds. Stay regular and get your refills in a timely manner please. We would dislike to lose you. Rotting for you buddy!
Referring to a horrible injury that could have paralyzed Luton and you call him “Brokeback Luton” does that rng any “hate of CFB players and also of homophobic refetences for you? You still don’t get it do you…..
Lol. I’m sure Jake is a great kid. Just not sure if he is tough enough for the NFL. I didn’t make any homophobic references. That was you. Makes you wonder doesn’t it? If you’re not talking about enemas on Olive, you’re making homo references on this site. Weird. Did he not have a spinal fracture? I heard he did. Your cousin really did a number on you that has obviously stuck with you your whole life. I don’t hate any player swammi and don’t let sports monopolize my life like some. I do enjoy poking at you though. Its almost too easy considering how rattled you get.
Yeah, they finally reinforced their line a bit after they shipped out Rivers… that has to chap his ass a bit. I think there is enough talent there to be pushing for a playoff spot so I imagine Herbert gets a year before he gets tossed in the deep end.
One the other end it will be interesting to see how Tua does in Miami. I hope they just tank and give him a redshirt year. No sense in tossing Tua to the wolves when they are obviously tanking. Tua has a bit of moxie to him. If I were Miami though I would have waited a year or two for a first round QB.
I imagine they go with Tyrod early. So if they are in the hunt all season Sherbert gets a redshirt year… unless he gets hurt or they struggle.
meant to reply to youngorst
Perhaps Sherbert can be a nicer version of Ryan Leaf.
He’s going to make Akili Smith look like Joey five picks.
Joey Five Picks threw for 4K more yards than Derek INT Anderson in the NFL
They all sucked. Stop comparing turds.
Agreed if they are patient (ie smart) but the Rams own that market right now and they might gamble that Herbert gets them a bump in coverage.
I’m still not sold on Goff as a lock for ever being a top 10 qb.
I still don’t love Jimmy G but the Niners are gonna be so stacked next year.
Top 10 pick, can’t complain! Good for him, hope he has a great career. Good landing spot imo.
Is this Mekhi Becton guy the Jets got any good?
I’d’ve gone Wirfs… Becton is farly highly thought of a big dude, sound like he needs to get his weight down a bit though
He can push your pickup if it won’t start, so he’s got that going for him. Agree on Wirfs. Saw him play in person last year and he is freak.
Raiders gonna Raider
Anyone been watching the last dance on espn? Only watched one episode so far but it’s been entertaining.
Yeah, it’s a good watch for sure. Good timing on release too.
Pack trade up: QB. WOW. same spot Rodgers went if I’m not mistaken. Aaron can’t be happy.
GA gets a guy picked before most Pac 12 coaches. Interesting.
I like that 49ers pick of aiyuk. Killed us, not that that’s a challenge.
They should have gambled on him falling to 31 IMO
Fear of missing out is a powerful force.
sounds like me looking for toilet paper a month ago.
concur. I think Aiyuk might have been the Pack’s guy.
Oh fuck.
WTMJ will be as much fun tomorrow as Big Red Overreaction used to be.
OMG. A double middle finger to Rodgers and the fans. You have to try to win it all and that means getting a legit #2 receiver.
Already got a comment from a friend in town, “when does Rodgers sign with the Vikings.”
thirty years of Hall of Fame caliber QB play and the Packers have just two titles to show for it. This is why. On the other hand, A-Rod hasn’t helped himself with his pouting on the sidelines.
How do you know about WTMJ?
Dear BeeG: as you may have noticed during the Covid discussions, I have sources. Seriously. I stream every Packers game and listen to Wayne and Rock. They have a great post-game show that actually displays some critical thinking.
Unfortunately, since they block cell phone access to the station on game day I can’t listed while I’m out on my yacht
Wonder who they were trying to get in front of to grab a QB? none of those other teams were gonna take Love. Such a dumb move
Tennessee maybe?
Seattle is known for trading down, bet they had a deal with an AFC team and GB jumped them.
Still do t get it though, you got Rodgers, get him help.
That makes sense cause Brooks who they drafted probably could have been had a little lower down too.
apparently they got wind of the Colts moving up to take him.
Colts had been rumored to want him… Could be.
Didn’t Arron ride the bench for like 3 or 4 years?
3 years
It was rumored that Favre wasn’t very friendly to Rodgers? Good grief – can it be? -hazy recall – tv in Irish pub in Seattle (Wallingford) – Packers and ? – Favre – first time – taken out of game for injury – Rodgers in for a few plays – did well.
Yes but that is quite rare and has only gotten rarer since Rodgers.
With the way rookie contracts work if you wait till year 4 to get Love in live action you better not misjudge him or it will cripple your franchise.
Seems like it’s the way the Packers like to roll. Hasselbeck say behind Favre forever then Aaron did the same for 3 years. Looking at Loves tape he’s very talented but not polished enough to drop right in and slay. Not that many QBs are right out of college.
Yeah, maybe. I’d be mad if I were a a packer fan and my team was one game from the SB and drafted a player for 3 years from now.
As a Seahawks fans whose recent ex is a Packer fan I find it amusing. She’s not happy.
I guess. They can always trade for a proven threat or pickup free agents on the cheap. This class is so loaded at we there’s gonna be talent on the table.
Jockitcher above apparently doesn’t value defense in football. Apparently “Wisconsin lost the Rose Bowl and the Ducks didn’t win it” and Wisconsin voluntarily turned the ball over saying “here, please take the ball, you can have it”. Please tell Brady Breeze that defense doesn’t matter. I will wait why he pummels you into a puddle of mush. And tell your DC that defense does indeed matter. A good defense combined with your trick play offense will get you over .500 next year. I can feel it. I really like Smith’s creativity and play design, but he has zero help anywhere else.
The team that scores more points wins the game!
That’s one theory
Let me get my billion dollar check book out….first adjust me, and get my face outa dem hemroids!
This is encouraging:
https://abcn.ws/2KqMZgG
Not a great read.
There is no such thing as a yeast shortage. If you don’t know how to start a yeast culture, you don’t know how to at least use the google machine.
Donald J Trump is more stupid than I ever imagined anyone can be. Dude just wondered why we don’t mainline clorox. There’s really not much to say about how abjectly stupid one must be think he even speaks in a comprehensive manner.
Yeah, it’s that bad… and has been for a while… or longer.
Yet, the Democratic Party has gone and hired some corporate floozy who is objectively well to the right of Reagan, and now they worry their decision to chase the dragon might cost them.
I got beans. I got rice. I got peppers, hens, veg and herb(s).
I’m good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXvtDm820zI
Back from the dead II: Electric Boogaloo.
It looks like you’re ready for hard times.
But how much gold do you have?
I bought gold just before Christmas 2018, because money markets really suck right now.
I sold it all for cash on Valentine’s Day, because I needed that allocation for something else.
It turns out I was just lucky on that commodity. Other investments made more over the same time-frame. And since I was restructuring everything and had my doom face on, I went all in on regionals, timber and staples.
I wish Presidential extreme stupidity was a stock. I’d be all up in that shit.
Dude’s a fucking moron.
No offense to fucking morons.
Shorting a president, that seems like an interesting investment. Tell me more.
As the old saying goes, his supporters can remain irrational longer than you can remain sane.
And that would be electric mud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQVZaeEmkOA
First the Packers draft a QB…….now this. #nohope.
classic, BeeG
And, it’s believable. Timings right, attitude checks, embedded music(?).
My mind is changed, WELCOME BACK JACK.
https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1253605620919517184?s=20
That’s gold haha
https://twitter.com/DebbieDoesTwitt/status/954876075296911360?s=20
“In some other way” Bwahaha
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/486572-elon-musk-sending-space-junk/
Man that dude really hates Elon lol. If starlink delivers at promised speed and price then people won’t care. They are working on making them less reflective and visible.
Some people are threatened by free thought and information that they can’t control. Control the narrative, control the populace.
Pervert will be a NFL dud. What were the Chargers thinking?
What would motivate you to take such an easy and gratuitous cheap shot on a quality Oregon born and raised kid. 4.0+ student in a tough major, not one bit of off the field controversy. I don’t get it.
“Us vs Them” mentality.
Ya as I much as I dislike the ducks, I told for their kids success after they leave for the NFL. Herbert seems like a good kid. I’m just not sure he has the accuracy at this point in time to start right away. I played lacrosse at OSU and a lot of the guys who played for the ducks are now teammates of mine on our post collegiate team. We didn’t get along in college, but now we are all good buddies and laugh about playing against each other. It could get quite heated at times back in college lol.
Root* not told stupid new phone auto correct…
I just can’t bring myself to actively root for the Duck players. I’m mostly indifferent. I think that is why I love the NFL so much, I don’t really root for anyone. Just like watching good games and don’t get bummed out about bad calls or things of that nature.
CJ is obviously very bitter Pettibonehead. Justin is a class kid, local, a great student etc… If he were a beav I would root for him. He may or may not succeed at the NFL level but he’s gonna get paid regardless. He will be a doctor some day and hopefully before he gets hit in the head too many times. Maybe he will treat CJ in his clinic Some day for his raging case of Duck Derangement Syndrome
Yeah, that is a lie. You were trashing on DA earlier in this thread.
Trashing on DA because he threw a bunch of interceptions? That not true anyway. I merely pointed out that Harrington threw for 4K more yards than DA did. Don’t see how that’s trashing DA at all
You said you would root for the opposing teams players
And I do root for opposing team players all the time. Just not teams
Yeah, I’m sure Vanilla Sherbert is reading this comment section :P
“Pervert” is a bit far, though.
No quality kid goes to sux.
You have real life problems don’t you
They’re thinking he showed good leadership and has decent mobility/good accuracy. Could be a good pro or a bust depending on the system and players around him. Chargers is a good system for him he’s actually a lot like Rivers only more mobile. I think he’s a way better prospect than Luton. Like 100x better.
I think he’ll show more poise than Rivers. Rivers let’s adversity get him all flustered pretty easily.
Rivers has twice the arm.
half the brain
Based on your lack of football and other sports acumen, I must assume that you come here for the politics because you ain’t got a fuckin’ clue what you talkin’ bout smoke
Bleedorangeoutyourass- Justin is projected to be getting close to 26mil with 16 of it guaranteed with a signing bonus. That arm did him ok wouldn’t ya say? #Hertzdonut
Not arm strength jackass. Why r u still here?
Keep backpedaling stupid. You realized you were wrong only when Angry said you were? Wow, you not only sodomize sheep but you are one
Does he? i think the most I’ve ever seen Rivers throw, even when young, was like 40 yards. And it’s not pretty. Herbert seems to throw 60 plus yards pretty easily. I’m guessing he has a much better arm. Rivers has moxie up the ass, though.
Yes his arm strength is superior. At least you know what ARM means unlike that jackass.
I hope the kid succeeds myself also, solid guy in many ways.
Pervert? You channeling Heimlich again? He’s pitching (well was pitching) in some obscure Mexicali league. Will never make the big leagues due to choices he made with a 4 year old girl. What was Casey thinking should be your question CJ. Anything for a win I guess huh?
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/oregon-state-university-researcher-vitamins-c-d-can-help-prevent-covid-19/283-2cbd044f-98a4-47be-99db-fd61222d6530
Oh great, now all the vitamen D fortified sunny D is gonna get hordes.
Thanks for the link, F. My doctor put me on D3 several years ago. When the outbreak hit I started taking 3 a day instead of two. I figure if nothing else the placebo effect would help.
How many IUs? With Vitamin D you can overdo it. If your dose is very high I hope you are getting occasional blood work. I try to average 2000 IUs a day but forget all the time and will take 5 or 10k to compensate.
Pretty much every person in Oregon is at low to dangerously low in vitamin D. My wife was so low at one point they had to prescribe D at something like 10000 units a day for a week.
Without a doubt. Doses that high need to be monitored is all I am saying.
10,000 250mcg
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475
Obviously fake news, didn’t happen, “I don’t know anything about that.”, “It was a business partner’s decision, I wasn’t involved.”, etc., etc.
He’ll just talk it out with his “good friend” Xi.
I’m extremely skeptical about that being the real “Jack” above. There is no way he would use our current president’s real name.
It’s Jack.
Interesting…
Don’t worry: his regular reference is in this thread.
I have a serial question for you more tech savvy contributors. I have an aging computer and when I log on WordPress tells me I can upgrade by clicking on a link it provides. Is that the best way of doing it? how long does it take? will I have to re-register?
Upgrade what? WordPress updates are done on my end.
You wouldn’t have to re-register for this blog, no. Since you’re registered here you should give yourself an avatar, btw. Helps distinguish you.
sorry, upgrade my browser.
What browser is it?
Phone or laptop, etc?
laptop–Internet explorer
For “aging”, can you be a little more specific? Which operating system are you using?
Is it just word press? They may just want you to update a back end browser process like Java. The browser may also just be an old version.
FOOTBALL PODCASTS
Two podcasts up in the last couple days, Spring FB Preview and an interview with Tibs.
I plan to listen later today.
https://osubeavers.com/sports/2017/8/4/beaver-sports-podcast.aspx
Thx.
Liking the chiefs 1st pick though I’m hoping for defensive help the rest of the way.
Charles Moore transferring already….
UGH.
We didn’t want him anyway???
Oh we did want him and need him. It was surprising to land him since there was no apparent relationship prior.
All the other transfers had a previous recruiting relationship.
Where he transfers will give some insight. Group or power 5 means some kind of fit issues. And lower division usually means grades.
I wonder how many guys wash out due to grades. Always happens but in this unique situation, maybe more guys become academic casualties.
Guarantee you its grades. He apparently hasn’t stepped foot on campus.
He’d be starting right out of the gate so I doubt it has to do anything with fit.
Was he supposed to play DE it DT?
DT I believe. Now it’s just more fake recruiting news.
They said he was already with the team and looked like the real deal. Hence how he was injured.
Maybe he got confused and thought he was transferring to Oklahoma State? How do you go from Auburn to Reser anyway?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Auburn,+Alabama/Corvallis,+Oregon/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x888cf12fb39bf883:0xcb25919235d39358!1m2!1m1!1s0x54c0409daa14d77d:0xd70d808f22bdc0be!3e0?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj8i6Hp1YHpAhUJCs0KHTAHAnMQ-A8wAHoECAsQDQ
Yes, but I was looking for national brand to no brand reasoning. Thanks for the link though
He should have taken a left at Albuquerque.
It’s pronounced Si-mi Ku-li
The onion called Trump suggesting injecting disinfectants nearly a month ago.
https://local.theonion.com/man-just-buying-one-of-every-cleaning-product-in-case-t-1842493766/amp?__twitter_impression=true
My god you are a fool. Watch the actual press conference he never “suggested injecting disinfectants”
Dont wsste your time leader. The fever is strong with this one.
That “fever”
I’d otherwise known as common sense and a love for America
Sorry you have neither.
Ok. You got me.
Exactly he qualified it with a maybe, so it is all good.
Haha. Isn’t what he did the exact definition of suggestion?
PS. Clorox is out today telling people not to ingest bleach, so they think he did as well. Guess their CEO is a “fool” and “take me to your leader” is the true genius here. Maybe we should just elect him President.
I think it’s funny that his cult is so sensitive that they feel the need to defend Trump from an article written by The Onion….
2020 campaign slogan: “Propagate the madness!”
Edit: I see, thanks Angry
Edit 2: dafuck, me editing broke it lol. Must be my phone?
Angry may have a plugin blocking iFrame or else this theme doesn’t handle it properly. That’s what that would look like.
EDIT – It’s actually a setting the uploader chose that doesn’t allow that clip to be embedded. There’s probably a workaround though.
Thanks Cake, it’s all good. The video is still pertenent even as a link haha
Fixed it.
Click “edit” to see the code.
Lol…okay…
Cult members gonna cult
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”
He actually said that he was being sarcastic, which is the least sensible argument you could make. He *could* argue he wasn’t speaking literally and that we needed something that could ‘clean’ the lungs, like an anti-viral treatment. Of course, he’s too dumb to know those words or to even know of the concept, so he said we need to ‘clean’ and ‘disinfect’ the lungs. And he meant it.
He was being anything *but* sarcastic.
Can you guys not admit that Trump is dumb?
Literally the saying “Blowing sunshine up your ass” has never been more relevant.
yep, that was stupid. But he says dumb things all the time.
Maybe he’d be better off not using his daily briefings as brainstorming sessions.
Throw all the ideas on the wall before the briefing, and talk about the ones that stick during the briefing.
And keep the briefings brief.
But he was being sarcastic. Why do the press and the rest of the country take him so seriously at a time like this? People need to have a sense of humor.
Right? Nothing funnier than a worldwide pandemic and >40k dead Americans.
Trump makes satire difficult.
He really does. I hope Johnathon Swift’s a modest proposal stays satire.
I mean, the look on her face. I’m sure it’s says “Damn, this guy has some good ideas” to the Trump cult, but to the rest of the world it says “Oh fuck, I’m in trouble.”
https://twitter.com/daniel_lewis3/status/1253482576699969537?s=21
Brits are starting vaccine trials today. Hope they nail it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19-human-clinical-trial-oxford-england/
Good stuff. They will learn something either way.
We were just trying to protect ourselves from coronavirus!
Cast your vote:
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1253811728258707456
Can’t think of the last time a team has created so much drama with the 30th pick. Here’s hoping the Packers “braintrust” has a better night.
Has anybody seen or heard a commercial airliner flying recently? Was just thinking this last weekend I hadn’t seen or heard one in awhile. Its like the week or so after 9/11.
Seen them and heard them around PDX, hearing one right now, but significantly fewer than normal.