06.Feb.2013 National Letter of Intenet Day
Here's to keeping a very good class.
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Jack says:
Talking about the signees is interesting, and we have the big board. I just wish they would have been prepared enough to add names, map locations and profiles on the segments as you scroll down.
Baby steps….
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Whoa! No more baby steps.
I just scrolled down for the first time, and everything I ever wanted is there.
This is really nicely done.
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bone says:
Go BEAVS!
Also I know there has been some worry about if Kevin Peko would qualify academically, but yesterday mama machado said that if we was in danger if not qualifying, they would have pulled the offer like they did with Preston and the wide out, blanking on the name, because they have been burned before. So that’s pretty promising.
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Solomon is listed as a LB on OSU’s site. I wonder if a few of the bigger DB’s are actually LB’s.
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beaverkman says:
might have to because of the lack of depth at that position, and having signed two other safeties.
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steveEbeaver says:
OT– The Utah papers report that CR is in the hot seat and Buker says “this may be news to AD Bob De Carolis”. Classic.
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Langsdorf on QBs, “We’ve always looked for throwers but the game is changing and we see how a little mobility…”
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orangejulius says:
Langsdorf …
‘We’ve always had throwers but the game is changing and the QB has to be able to move around’
Maybe Kelly did help move this staff off the mark
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Beavblazer says:
The impression I was getting was the NFL’s use of the read option was more influential in getting the staff to take notice, which makes sense if you think about it. If you’re trying to get talented kids to come to your school, you probably need to convince them that the style you’re playing will benefit them in the NFL. A few years ago, the option QB’s weren’t getting drafted. Now they are, so things are changing and Riley is taking notice. Seems slow when compared to other college teams, but not when you compare them to NFL teams.
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bendbeaver says:
Check in after 3 years when most of those guy’s knees are blown out. Then option QB’s wont be the best idea.
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Was listening to Joe Montana on the Herd the other morning. His take on the running QB was it might be a useful tool in spurts, but you can’t get away with consistently running your QB like he’s a 2nd RB because of fatigue and the risk of injury. He pointed out how Frank Gore during the Superbowl would break a decent run, and then tap his helmet and ask out to catch his breath before coming back in again. With the QB, you can’t afford to have them sit out plays here or there to catch their breath because they need to be ready to go on the next play every time. It’s just not a sustainable plan over the course of a full game, let alone season.
Also, since the QB becomes a ball carrier, the rules don’t protect them like they do when they’re passing.-
Another thing to consider is that players get old. And old means they slow down and it takes longer to heal week to week. Pocket QB’s talk about how they were good to go on Monday when they were young, sat in the cold tub until Tuesday as they approached 30 and waited until Thursday to practice when they were 30-something. That is accelerated when the QB wears two hats.
And it looks like the “unblocked” D-linemen are going to be instructed to just maul anyone and everyone at the mesh point to counter the read option. So now you have to add several hits even a scrambler like a Steve Young never took in a traditional set.
Add to that the fact that any NFL QB has to be much more precise than they are in college since that offense can’t use half their formations in the NFL and DB’s are bigger, faster and smarter than your average college back.
To sustain a read option at a high rate of success in the NFL, you’re going to have to have two RGIII’s or Kaepernick’s on your team at all times. And you’re going to have to dispose of them after four or so years.
I’m willing to bet that Chipster will set up an offense much like Belichick runs at New England, which someone once told me looks like OSU’s offense run at Nikegon speeds.
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Angie saying he will be here in the Spring, so he can be at Spring ball, this kid choose us because he thought there is early playing time.
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Bill says:
Harlow is right. After this next year, at least 3 spots (Phillips, Andrews, Enger) will be up for grabs.
He’s smart to come in early. He’ll have to pack on about 30 pounds from his listed weight of 260 if he’s looking to play early. Getting into a college lifting program will help him get there faster.
Good pickup. Another kid with an NFL dad. If he gets anywhere near what his Dad accompished, he’ll have a great career.
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Harlow was the first guy we offered, up to 275 and working on his arms in the gym. High expectations. Looking at OT for him now, but will learn other positions as well. According to Coach Cav
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Bray on Solomon, “dropping him down from Safety. He is an athlete and a big hitter. Expects to come in and play right away.” “We are looking for the Safety/Linebacker hybrid players”
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Angry, you’ll love this one, Bray says that with the departure of RR it “really opens up 3 positions”. Are you all still bullish on Bray?
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BeavItOrNot says:
Bray is so amazing that RR is now a legendary Oregon State linebacker just by virtue of Bray’s comments today.
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whatever says:
One area in which Oregon State is dominating Oregon, the letter of intent day coverage is way, way better for us.
It’s the first thing you see on osubeavers.com and I can’t even find the coverage on goducks.com.
Love the way they have it set up. Interviews, player profiles, etc. To whomever put this thing together, great job.
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mckalk says:
I know Nikegon will deny it, but I feel like the air is slowly being let out of the Duck football program. Kelly was probably a once every 20 years type coach. Oregon was Chip as far as national exposure goes.
It might not show up next year as they of course still have a talented squad and a favorable schedule, but they are going to slip from elite to just good. Will Riley be able to take advantage?-
UofDuck says:
Yes, I do deny it! Like I denied that the spread would fade away in a few years, and that having a lot of uniforms doesn’t impress kids because they like tradition more. You can follow, or you can break away and lead!
On a more serous note: Nice class fellas. Whatever switch you all flipped in recruiting, it is working! Kudos.
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Damien Haskins film from last night in the International Bowl. Jesus titties….somebody needed to tell that kid it was just an exhibition. Check out the hit at 1:10. Kid looks like he’s not afraid to make contact. No more running into a pile and falling over like we’ve seen from some of our guys lately.
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If he gets a lane, he’ll be tough to bring down. Still he’s 2-3 years away from making an impact which is fine because he’ll need to learn how to block and catch. Woods, Ward and Agnew will hold on to the top of the depth chart for the next two years. Plus we’ll see if Brown can make an impact.
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Victor Bolden is in now.
Corey Lawrence could play WR, but definitely looking in the return game, showed an incredible punt return on tape.
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probably so.
She’s also tweeting that Williams is down to OSU, TTech and Miami.
I thought people had already said they saw he was going to TTech. Maybe she’s just a little behind since she’s trying to keep up with the current commits all morning.-
seen a couple of different tweets here is the newest.
@RivalsJason
NOLA 3-star LB Edward Williams is headed to #TexasTech. New #RedRaiders’ staff is turning heads in their short time in Lubbock #RivalsNSDso I am not sure what she is saying, or if it is not a done deal.
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Dwill03 says:
He’s at his school signing ceremony, and is sitting with 3 Fedex packets in front of him looking stressed. Can’t decide where to go. Has been sitting starring at them for like half an hour.
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Kenny Beaver says:
ESPN just ran their rankings of the P-12 and OSU sits at #9. This seems like a low rating considering how many good players we have this year. We always out perform the recruiting rankings so I believe that we are improving with this class.
Unfortunately, UCLA and UW are cleaning up as predicted by early commits. UW did lose one 4* to TAMU.
If UCLA and UW rebound in performance, it surely improve the stature of the P-12 but make a Rose Bowl significantly tougher.
USC loses 4* to Oregon, they seem to get in Kiffen’s hair every year, too funny.
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This is actually right where the Beavs will likely end up, 8th is where they are ranked in Rivals and Scout. Now you could rank the class slightly higher maybe 7th,depending how the day shakes out, based on the avg star ranking. Class size can effect the ranking, for example, Utah has a very big class (lots of grayshirts and placing guys in JC) and their avg star rating is lower (albeit not by much) than OSU.
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osu2008 says:
Wonder who that may be? Hope that she isn’t saying this to attract people to the rivals website.
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Helps to have friends in high places
@manuula98
chilling w/future beaver, Titus Failauga #gobeavs pic.twitter.com/Yab6V0B7
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I remember when Zimmerman and his teammake (forgot his name) signed a few years ago in Oklahoma, they weren’t able to get to a fax machine because their school was shut down due to bad weather or something, but they got their LOIs in, just later. Glad Hunt’s a Beav!
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Banker on Peko, “he has some work to do, but we have a good guy down in Cerritos CC to help him. He should be done in June”
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If Peko needs a tutor to get him out of a JC, you have to wonder how long he will be eligible at OSU. Could be one and done.
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Per twitter:
Hunt is on his way to sign (texted to Machado)
Williams will not sign today. Has more thinking to do and all 3 schools still in play.
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looks like he has
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/55779138-88/utah-6-2-6-6-calif.html.csp
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Strange that Lawrence Mattison isn’t on the big board yet. He tweeted it out about an hour ago that he’s already signed, and sent this pic out.
https://twitter.com/LawrenceMattiso/status/299171963207839744/photo/1
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angry says:
Gwachum needs to bulk up 20lbs and move to TE. He’ll never play at WR with Mullaney blossoming and now this class…
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Ruh OH:
@LJGinger
Could Nebraska be back into the Dashon Hunt sweepstakes? Still hasn’t signed his NLI wit the Beavs…@AnnieMPeterson
Still awaiting word on Beavers verbal commit CB Dashon Hunt.@RipCityRiot
Annnnd the drama starts. Dashon Hunt, 4 star CB keeping OSU coaches in limbo after a verbal commit. -
Figured Okankwo was only offered after losing out on LJ Moore but it could be because of Hunt. Okankwo seems like he literally switched last night.
I watched his film on youtube. Seems like a ball hawk. Needs to get better at tackling. Seems he more or less just got in the way than actually wrapping up. Not too much of a concern because of the much improved tackling of the CBs this year under Perry. Seemed like at least once a game, Poyer or Reynolds really stuck somebody.
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Steven Nelson, “Maybe just one year, maybe” Looking to go straight to the NFL. He is a punt returner as well, and practiced punt returns today.
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WTF?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-signing-day-arkansas-20130206,0,6886008.story
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Must not be that good of a running back if he couldn’t keep up with his mom……..or maybe he just come from good genes.
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Pretty much everyone signed now except Hunt.
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This was posted on pue-orange shows Lauina, Haskiens, and Songy all signing. Still haven’t seen Lauina fax come in yet though. But he looks signed.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/2013-signings-from-international-bowl-1112722 -
Is there a single facet of the team that you expect to be worse next year than this past year? I expect a drop off in production from our wideouts, but am optimistic the production will be made up for in developing TEs, improved pass protection, and an improved running attack. Other than wideout, I don’t see an area where I expect regression.
If these JUCO guys pan out on the D-Line (and in Peko’s case, don’t pull a Simi Kuli) and Nelson is as good as advertised, I am very bullish on our defense next year.
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I wouldn’t call the WR production a regression because other postions are stepping up. Most of the WR’s should have better years than last year. Cooks will be tough to gauge because other teams are going to key on him now. Hopefully during the offseason, he works to get even better. I’ve said before that he’s got a good chance ot become the best WR in OSU history.
Mullaney should have a decent year. Something like 600-700 yards. Cummings should be able to take on a bigger role. And Hatfield and Singler should see the field a bit more. Not sure what will happen to Gwachum. Appears he’s been passed on the depth chart. And don’t rule out Gilmore making some kind of impact.
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I still think we could see a drop off at CB and DT. Sure the guys coming in are promising but that doesn’t always translate in college. Also I think we could see a drop off at LB… depth is still a concern and last year we were lucky to have Doctor and DJ healthy for the most part.
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Recruiting is blown way out of proportion. I did just fine with a few guys that could and run a few guys that could catch and 10-12 fat boys to get in the way. I could usually round up a “recruiting class” with an open house and a few pizzas. JB
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@OSUBeaversFB
Lyndon Tulimasealii is a 6-4, 270-pound DE from Anchorage, AK (West Anchorage/College of the Desert). #FutureBeavs13He is in.
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This document was found on campus today.
BASKETBALL PRACTICE SCHEDULE Pre-Utah 2-5-13
1.) 10:00-10:05 Shoot around and stretching
2.) 10:05-10:30 Admire Moreland’s latest tattoo (Subject to available space)
3.) 10:30-11:00 Rebound for Starks. Form a semi-circle around 3 point line. (Helmets req.)
4.) 11:00-11:30 Team dodgeball… Good for avoiding erratic and unexpected passes from Joe.
5.) 11:30-11:45 Last second win drill. (See item 3 above)
6.) 11:45-12;00 Motivational Talk… Which has the lower interest bonds or Beaver basketball?
7.) 12:00- Adjourn to players lounge. View Utah scouting or Oprah. Player’s choice.Today’s point of emphasis: If BDC wanders in, look busy, no standing around!!
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Rumor: a listener said that Riley referred to Williams and said he wants to come OSU, but parents want him to stay close to home. If true we need to get down there and talk with the parents, and get them the pac12 network!
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It was in an interview with Canzano that Riley was asked if he had ever heard anything like the story I linked above about the kid’s mom running off with his LOI.
Riley answered that he had a kid who wanted to go to OSU, but his parents wanted him to go to TT. So he just sat there while he was supposed to be signing his LOI.
No names other than the schools were mentioned… Nudge, nudge, wink, wink… know what I mean?
Poor kid. That explains his look in the pic above.
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progressivebeav says:
Eggers says:
Oregon State has 23 signees, hopes for 3 more — WR Tatum Taylor and DL Charles Tua’au and Fred Lauina. All have indicated they will sign
https://twitter.com/kerryeggers/status/299314724238151680
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kerry eggers @kerryeggers
Oregon State has 23 signees, hopes for 3 more — WR Tatum Taylor and DL Charles Tua’au and Fred Lauina. All have indicated they will sign
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Looks like it may have been a numbers game. ASU signed 29. Also, only ESPN is reporting that Taylor had an offer from ASU. Scout and Rivals don’t show an offer listed. So this also may be his best offer.
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I think that maybe because his offer is for Track and not football. He could play football but his schollie would count against the track team budget.
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Very sure that when you are a dual sport athlete and one is football, you are on scholarship for football. It’s to prevent stashing extra players in other sports. Ex. Jarmon will play both baseball and football but will only count for football for a scholarship.
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Taylor’s facebook page says he’s signing tomorrow, but doesn’t say which school. I found a post on another blog where the blogger had seen a story about Tatum tonight on CSN.
“So apparently a couple days ago the Beavs pulled their offer to Tatum because of a numbers issue… Then Riley called Tatum’s mom this morning and said they were sending an LOI for Tatum that they could make it work. So Taylor’s mom gets the LOI and gets in the car to go give it to Taylor but he was on a school field trip today so she couldn’t even give it to him…
They didn’t say whether he was going to send it to OSU or not or sure, but they never even mentioned ASU in the story. Guess we will find out for sure tomorrow! ”
So hopefully this means Taylor wants to be a 2 sport athlete. Could be a bigger gain for the track team than football even, but nice to know we have a guy we can develop into a speed weapon down the road if he commits to OSU
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Issaquahbeav says:
Am I the only one who feels underwhelmed with this class? Maybe because we didn’t sign any real high profile offensive players. Interesting that Sonny Dykes is only on Cal ‘s staff for 2 months and he’s able to reel in a Top 25 class.
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You’re one of four people who is underwhelmed. Look more at the numbers and there’s only a small difference between Cal’s class and the Beavs.
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Looks like we got another commit from Charlie Tua’au-Juco DE who was previously a Hawaii commit. 2 flips in our favor today, not bad.
Travis Rice ?@BlitzTRice
Latest Beaver commit DE Charlie Tua’au Fr. Highlight Film (Riverside CC) >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKXLlO0C5ow …
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So it looks like there’s 16 seniors graduating. How many defections we’re there / how many more guys can they sign?
Regarding lb’s: there’s several guys with the size and athletisim to step into the mix next year with with Akuna, James, Williams, Johnson, and skotte. Wasn’t the staff high on saulo too? Maybe we’re not in as bad of shape as most are projecting. I imagine it’ll be a big help to actually bray out on the recruiting trail now that he’s a full time coach. Time to start working on 2014.
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Beavergopher says:
Akuna is slow. Unless he starts bathing in deer antler spray, I doubt he ever gets on the field other than special teams. Perhaps they try to bulk him up to play DE.
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Or he needs to shed at least 20pds. Kid bulked up to much. He was listed@210 in hs. Very fast and quick. Now he’s listed at 245 and two or three steps slower.
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Here is an article on Tatum Taylor first paragraph
http://seattletimes.com/html/highschoolsports/2020303892_localsign07.html?syndication=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter@adamgorney
Tatum Taylor plans to sign Thursday according to his Facebook. #RivalsNSDI couldn’t find a Facebook page to confirm if Thursday is today or another time.
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Lindsay Schnell is saying Muir has decided to transfer to OSU, but will have to sit out a year.
Also, saw that Tatum Taylor will make his decision today from his highschool at 1:00
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I don’t have a source on the Muir thing. Didn’t we hear yesterday he was going to Baylor because he had a relative get offered also?
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Still a head scratcher. Why go from a PAC 12 school to Sack State? First Katz, then Tyner, now this. That was costly loss. Hurts to lose an experienced lineman, even if he remained a backup.
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Beaver Byte says:
C’mon Tatum! Would love to see him suiting up for both track and football at OSU. Taylor and Oregon State are a perfect fit. With some quality speedsters this team will keep competing for Rose Bowls.
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Went to the Recruiting dinner last night great night.
My buddy ran into Coach Bray, who was having a few pops. He asked him the million dollar question, who starts at MLB next season? Bray says SKotte is the starter, however he “needs” somebody behind him to push him. Apparently the depth isn’t there.
Then he asked him whether or not we will get Williams, and he said we got a real good chance. Edward told Bray five times he wants to come here, and Bray asked “are you verballing?” Williams would respond “I want to come here” But his mom wants him closer to home and that it is really between Miami and us, because Texas Tech really pissed the mom and Edward off. Riley has been in contact with the mom and is trying to ease her concerns, about her son coming here.
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Of course you asked him about “hypothetical MLB prospect A,” and that’s how he answered.
Right?
I can fully understand Williams’ feelings based on what I’ve heard of his story. He really doesn’t want to stay at home because he wants to get out and see the world like any kid his age. But he and his family also suffered through Katrina and its after-effects. I think they were homeless for a time. He saw the struggles of the city coming back from that disaster. He just wants to go somewhere he can wake up in the morning and hear nothing but birds chirping. He’s tired of the city right now.
Miami is tempting because of its history. But it’s still a city with all the distractions he’s trying to escape. I would love to have him here. But I can’t argue with the academics at either Miami or Tulane. I would have to say those two along with Emory and GaTech are the best schools in the Deep South.
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TT thinks the same thing OSU does:
https://twitter.com/WGNOsports/status/299894228530638850Who’s correct?
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@beaverkman
Having a great time at the recruiting dinner, tall guy is Money Matt @mattmoore_8 pic.twitter.com/rbvOsn7m@beaverkman
Me one of my brothers @Qui22Rodgers what a great representative for #beavernation pic.twitter.com/nwOtCrST@beaverkman
Me and @JamesDockery31 still #beavlieving at recruiting dinner! pic.twitter.com/BCFismWE@beaverkman
Hanging with @J_Rodgers18 great guy! #Beavlieving pic.twitter.com/842KD2BH -
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/127833-no-surprises-as-osu-inks-variety-of-jcs-preps
Harlow, Greer, and Hunt could compete early. Rosa reinstated. Kristick and Dorian Smith being considered for grad spots. Matt Riley going to Texas.
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helmsley says:
“Hayden Craig, a 6-5, 245-pound tight end who prepped at Dayton before winding up in Montana, has transferred to OSU as a walk-on. He is in school and will sit out next season with what Riley hopes is three years of eligibility beginning in 2014.”
Why does he have to sit out? I guess I thought if you went into a different division you didn’t need to.
When I first read about him I thought he was from Dayton, Montana, which has a population of 100 in the winter (more in the summer where it is a launching spot for boaters going to Wild Horse Island.) I thought, good god, that is really a find. lol
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Tatum Taylor announcement news hasn’t come through yet, but he did change his Facebook profile pic from a track picture to a football picture about 30 minutes ago.
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ObjCritic says:
OT, but the other day I was thinking with Cooks, Gillmore, and the incoming speed of Bolden and hopefully including Taylor, it’d be fun to see some run-n-shoot formations with Chris Brown as the single back with the speed to take advantage of the line and defender spacing. Quick throws, keep it simple for the QB.
I’m not saying all the time, I just wish that sometimes Riley et al would vary the form and pace of their methodical approach and one way to do that is to put more fast skill players out there then can be consistently defended. The line is improving, and would need to do its job; the qb has to get rid of the ball quickly, and the WB and receivers need to be seeing the same thing. I’d also like to seem them sometimes put in two tight ends and just run the ball to death; so I’m probably asking for way too much diversity.
Back to the thread’s topic…this class would be quite remarkable if Taylor and Williams sign.
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As if it couldn’t get any more complex.
Bob Stoops is now going after Williams.
I’m going to hazard a guess and say he won’t end up in Corvallis.
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So let’s recap all the stories.
Williams wants to go to OSU, but his parents won’t let him, wanting him to go to Tulane.
Williams wants to go to TT, but his parents won’t let him, wanting him to go to Tulane.
Williams was going to go to TT, but an 11th hour Miami offer forced him to delay his decision.
All the different stories about this two star kid caught the attention of Bob Stoops, and he saw the same tape we’ve all been watching for over a year… thinking to himself, “Self, how is it this kid is only a two star prospect?”
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