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    • I’m waiting to see what Tinkle can come up with to counter only having 6 players.

      I read an interesting comment on the last thread where it was suggested to bring in a graduate that still has eligibility. Not sure if something like this is even do-able or if there is any such player around that would help us on such short notice and not having practiced Tinkle defense. Maybe a big-time shooter would work?

      It’s still an interesting premise which I’m sure is being, or has been, explored.

      Let’s see what he comes up with. Even if it’s to tough out 9 more games with 6 players, still we have a much better team than anticipated and a great foundation for next year and beyond.

  1. Down a man and on the road against an increasingly confident conference opponent. Not a good recipe for us yet.

    The game remains the same. Make shots, and we win. Struggle from the floor, and we have to be D monsters to have a chance.

    Tinks needs to start using Cheikh. I know he’s a liability on offense, but he’ll remain so until he gets time. No time like the present.

  2. And we can’t see any Rastatter, Brill or Harris on the floor. I was watching the Wazzu game against Nikegon, and the announcers were praising Harris and his crew because refs were “doing a great job when they weren’t being talked about.” Mind you, they were doing all this gushing during some weird official timeout where Harris was reviewing a call that had no business being recalled. The announcers were confused and speculated they were trying to correct the clock. They weren’t. They never gave an explanation for the more than two minute break in play. But the announcers could gush about the officials at this time… not even realizing the very words they used to describe them were describing what they were doing to make themselves very poor officials. And the announcers spent the whole game saying things like, “I didn’t see a foul there,” and, “ticky-tack.”

    We had Rastatter against UW, and he did his usual suck. That was Harris at Wazzu. He was pretty awful. I expect we’ll get both plus Brill… and probably Eggers as the scorer.

  3. I know WT is in the “honeymoon phase” and walks on water, but except for the excitement of slipping by Arizona, I think the games are as boring as hell to watch. Granted he is working with an ill-assorted mish-mash of players but the “Go Defense” first approach is a tried and true recipe and acknowledgment of inferior talent.

    I”m afraid that WT has become used to working with less than top-tier level players and has become accustomed to this grind it out approach. It reminds me of his Montana teams playing a 16 seed in the NCAA’s. I don’t see how, in the long run, he attracts today’s player that loves to run the court and put up lots of shots.

    Granted he has a good crop coming in next year, but seriously, how hard is it to recruit within your own and your assistant’s families? JB

    PS: President Ray is thinking of giving BDC a bonus, based on the reduction of angry emails sent to his office and the up tick in fund raising. Who would have guessed that a new football coach a new basketball coach and a winning women’s team would placate Beaver Nation. Thanks BDC from the Pres!

    • I tend to agree but the best teams every year in the NCAA play solid team D. College basketball is all played with inferior talent. Players with talent leave early. Unless you are Kentucky, you will never keep offensive talent.

    • Very incorrect… except that you think our games are boring as hell to watch. When we’re not shooting well, when anyone isn’t shooting well, it can be bad. But seeing the science in action can be a beautiful thing even without the scoring. Taking good shots off good passes is the first step. We make those shots at home. We miss on the road. It’s a matter of experience.

      Now take your Ducks as the contrast. They play iso-kick and no defense. That, to me is ugly ball. It looks about as much like a team playing as do several cars driving 20mph too fast through a school zone. All the drivers are individuals moving in the same direction, but there’s going to eventually be a wreck.

      “Defense first” is the foundation. Where CR failed was a move away from that. Good talent, no talent, mediocre talent… it doesn’t matter. The best coaches are the ones who spend the beginning of every year teaching the fundamentals. Coach K takes time in his fall camp to teach the importance of ball fakes in his offense. He will spend five minutes lecturing his players about how faking a pass to the left then passing right is important in many subtle ways. Then he runs the shell for ten minutes until he thinks everyone shows him they understand. Tony Bennet might tell you something about what he thinks about your “no D” idea.

      Pandering to 17 and 18 year-olds who think they’re the next LeBron is a sure way to never be elite. The elite play D first. The elite have control freaks as head men. The best hoops dynasty ever, where elite talent flocked without question, began their first practice every fall by watching their head coach teach them to put on socks and lace up shoes in the “proper” way.

      If you don’t want to play hard D all game, you don’t want to be elite.

  4. Didn’t see the Beavs winning this before Robbins went out and don’t see them winning it now. I’ve said it many times, this team isn’t beating anyone outside of Gill.

  5. Yeah I see us losing as well. It will actually take an enormous coaching job to keep this team together. This could be the start of a very long downward spiral. They had limited depth with Robbins, now they have none. Teams should be able to wear us down, and we will miss Robbins offensive contributions that this team is desperately trying to come up with. If WT can at least keep them winning at home that would be a very successful season.

  6. The team will definitely play faster as they acquire depth and talented depth at that. Those freshmen are going to want to play fast, and the defense creates transition opportunities. For now, I’m more than satisfied with the approach we have to watch, which gives our team a chance to win more ball games. I was at the Arizona game, my hands were shaking after. If that’s not exciting, I don’t know what is.

    I’m just still kinda upset and in a “F*ck you Vic” type of mood because he couldn’t lay off until after the season.

    • I was at the game with my granddaughter who told me afterward that all I said after the game was over was ” … oh my God, … oh my God, … oh my God … “

  7. FOOTBALL: Blair Cavanaugh to Portland State. The times they are a changin’.
    I believe he was buds with Isaac, not that Isaac would step down to PSU, but still, glad brother Andrew has that GA spot.

    • Whatever.Walk on, walks off. He was good at CHS, but was never going to play at OSU, not many ‘vertically challenged’ WRs playing in the PAC. Maybe coach CAV was the reason he was on the team to begin with and GA told him thanks, but, uh…

  8. Is tonight finally our turn to have some fourth-string nobody play lights out from out of nowhere? How many times had we seen that happen to us?

  9. Going to take a lot of scoring from the walkons to win this game. Robbins loss is huge. That’s about 25-30 minutes to replace with walk ons.

  10. This is a team that scored 57 in the first half against the ‘ucks and here the Beavs held them to 16. I’ll say it again. WOW!!!

    • like I said. Neither of those teams that took the court in Pullman Thursday night play defense worth a shit. So far Coogs have shot 22% in this game

    • I cant see him tempted by that. With talent coming in, and the existing team buying into his coaching, this is a great opportunity for him. Really build something significant. Maybe in a few years he is bought out and away, but I expect him to stick for a while, anyway.

      With us so short handed, he is sure performing a miracle!

    • Not so much worried about that. Reasons: The way these “new” coaches have the attitude that this is the place the want to be, coaches sons are coming here, that alone should keep them here for 4 years. I don’t think its going to be hard to keep them here with the upgrades coming down the line.

      • WT and the other coaches seem to be into this heart and soul. There was a quick clip after the Arizona game as WT was leaving for the locker room. Looked as if he was crying.

  11. I must recognize the prognostication genius of WSN. I owe you an apology and a single barrel napkin.

    PS. Please pick the Packers.

  12. You all wanna know? This one to me was a no brainer. Ernie Kents teams have never been known for playing D. All about the offense and getting out in transition. Even during the Two Luke’s days at Oregon. I knew if the Beavs could limit the cougs transition offense and dictate tempo, they’d be alright. They did just that

    • I don’t understand why teams don’t drive more against the beavs and foul out all the starters….that’s what I’d do if a team had 6 players.

      • I think the good teams and coaches might start trying that approach in the near future. Ernie Kent isn’t smart enough to figure that out

      • They would stand the risk of charging fouls because of the good defense. Granted it’s not as likely as a block or shooting foul.

        I’m bringing in some 101 for wsn on Thursday in the new Nutria flask my sis gave me for Xmas! Just has to find me…. ;)

  13. Angry,

    My email is getting a notification every time someone posts. Never happened before. I reregistered because I couldn’t remember my username and password. I didn’t see how to change that on the dashboard so I don’t get emails when someone posts. What gives? How do I change that setting?

    • Read somewhere recently that Thompson Jr is averaging around 27 ppg this season, and saw a state line for that Gligorije guy that showed him putting up 30 pts and 16 reb in a recent game. haven’t hear much on the other guys this season other than Eubanks is a shot blocking fool.

  14. (Not sure if this is a known visit for next weekend so thought I’d add it here)

    Re: Syracuse DE commit, Keonnis Davis

    Stephen Bailey @Stephen_Bailey1 · 7m 7 minutes ago

    Davis is visiting Oregon State next weekend and considering visiting NC State (recently offered), South Florida and Florida.

  15. Does this remind you of anyone? – Last night’s statement from Ernie Kent. “This team had a monster win on Thursday and you had them in an environment here, mentally they were just not where they needed to be, which is why they didn’t shoot the ball well, quite frankly.”

    “We saw it, we tried to guard against it, we talked about it,” he continued. “But this team is in uncharted territories from where they’ve been the last couple years so as much as they have to handle the adversity going through some losses and the adversity of the road, they also have to handle the adversity of winning.”

    Coaching differences aside, I’m so happy for WT and statements like, “they played their asses off.”

  16. Start of second half of webbies @ dawgs tonight in Seattle. From up 10 to down 5 in a little over 5 minutes…maybe a lot over 5 minutes!

  17. Hey, whiskey, the Beavs have a minimum of 14 games left in the season, including at least one in the Pac-12 Tournament.

    Using your power(s) as the mystical & amazing swami, how many wins do you project from those 14 games?

    What say you, Jack?

    • Not having the wisdom and otherworldliness of the AB sages I have to guess… so… here goes…10.

      My glasses always look a little rosy…..and neck stuck out for beheading….

      • Damn, 10?!? Methinks that could mean the big dance….hard to wrap my tiny mind around that!

        I think I would be very pleased with 7. We need no more bad breaks like Robbins, though…

        Sure amazing what coaching can do.

    • Can’t predict pac 12 tourney until match ups are determined but for the final 13 regular season conference games.

      Wins: ucla, usc, wsu, wash, Colorado, oregon and at USC
      Losses: at Arizona, at ucla, at Stanford
      Swing games: at asu, at cal, utah

      Swing games are the key. These could go either way. Robbins is eligible to return for utah. Without him I think that game is a sure loss even at home. I’ll go out on a limb and say Beavs lose at home to utah, and they’ll split the other two. So, 8 wins is my prediction

      • Pretty much the way I see it as well, except your “swing games” were wins in my book.

        Something hard to account for is – will Robbins be game-ready when he returns or will he need a couple games to get back? I believe he is practicing on the scout/practice squad so maybe he’s fully back by second half of the Utah game. Looking back I guessed the 10 wins based on 13, not 14, games for the same reason you stated.

        Also will his return “dis-joint” the rest of the team? They will have had 10 games without him to adjust to a new rotation. His return could mess that up.

        Right now we’re all 0-0 so we will see….winning any will be tough on the team with only 6 players. And, even tougher to advance very far in the post-season with only 7.

        Even if it’s 0-13, we still have a team that has exceeded all expectations for this season!

        Wow

        • I can’t see this team losing the rest of their conference games. WT is doing too good of a job and deserves to be in the discussion for national coach of the year. But, as always, one injury or another suspension and everything is out the window. The loss of Robbins does hurt. and the margin for error just got even smaller. But we saw Saturday evening these guys can win a conference road game even going only 6 or 7 deep. That said I still don’t think WSU is in the upper half of the conference. Arizona, Utah and Stanford are head and shoulders above everyone else. Then there is a jumbled mess of 9 teams capable of beating up on each other.

          • Yeah, injury and suspension could really derail the train. There is a limit to what the coaches can pull off. Another thing is getting too many fouls in any game. Refs are sometimes a bit nuts. Just one of the rotation fouling out could lose a game that would otherwise be won.

            Smile on us, oh GBITS…

    • What say I? Talk about an archaic idiom. You been hanging out in British courts lately?

      I agree with Whiskey except that I would both UCLA games in the swing category. They are so Jekyll and Hyde depending on how Looney plays. And I think we win two or three of the swings, making it 8 or 9.

      We’ll need to win 10 to make the dance bubble. The Corban win will not count in the RPI or as a part of our overall record. So we’re really 11-5 right now. 10 wins will make us 20+ and still in single-digit losses before an eventual Pac Tourney loss puts us at 21-10.

      It’s possible but not probable. I thought 14 to 17 with 5-8 leugue wins and 8th place in the Pac. I think we can do better than that now, even with the suspension.

  18. Beavs up to 88 in RPI after yesterdays games…………………..

    Arizona 6
    Utah 13
    Stanford 26
    Washington 50
    UCLA 65
    Colorado 84
    Beavs 88
    Oregon 102
    Cal 119
    WSU 121
    USC 134
    ASU 144

    Arizona, Utah and Stanford are clearly in at this point. UW’s weekend sweep put them squarely on the bubble. Everyone else has work to do. I don’t see the beavs dropping too many to teams below them. As always, keep winning and it will all resolve itself. The lowest RPI of an at large team in NCAA tournament history is 67.

    http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

      • currently. Yes there are many games still to play. But at this point Arizona, Utah and Stanford are clearly the best teams in the conference and I’d be shocked if they do not make the tournament. Despite UW’s current RPI, if they make the tournament when it’s all said and done, I’d be surprised. They aren’t that good. Pac-12 is looking like a 3 bid league to the tournament. But there are a few teams talented (or well coached enough) that could sneak in. We shall see

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