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7:30 kick off on Pac network.

Beavs have historically played well at Cal, but it’s hard to see how this D is going to stop Cal’s QB. I can’t find any intriguing reason to watch this game. I’ll check it out to see if there’s any growth but not expecting much.

38-10, Cal.

Go Beavs.

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  2. Never trust a coach named Dykes.

    He was asked what worries him facing Oregon St. I tuned out. The answer is nothing. This game I do not expect to be close. Cal has not been playing well. OSU is just what the dr ordered

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  3. If the score holds tonight, we could be a Cal upset of Stanford next week (definitely not out of the realm of possibility) from Oregon being in line to make it to the Rose Bowl in their down/rebuilding season.

    That thought is just depressing.

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  4. Was nice to watch 40 full minutes of beaver basketball end with a 22 point win. I’ve got an unfounded, unjustifiable positive feeling about this game. Go beavs.

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  23. About the only thing I have left to root for this year is that Iowa dumps Nebraska next week to deny Biley a shitty second tier bowl game. Thank God the Quacks took three losses early to shut down natty talk from the get go.

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  29. Well when you have 52 freshmen on your team, you most likely will be a smaller team. Plus, you only have 37 schollies on defense, after red shirts you have barely a two deep at every position.

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  37. Just run the ball. With NM at QB this should be a team that throws 10-15 times if the game is still not a blow out. Even on 1st and 17 try two running plays and see what happens.

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  41. Nice stat line by NM right now, 3-9 for 3.2 YPA. for 29 yards. I think he only plays because of his brother and GA has a huge hard on for Josh.

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      • He has a pretty good highlight reel. That’s pretty disappointing. You’d think with the number of receivers we’ve signed the past few years we’d have some more studs. Just Villamin.

        What happened to Jarmon? He looked so good last year, but this year he’s majoring in Dropping Passes. Taught by Professor Boldin, I believe.

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  44. We’re getting shutout by one of the worst defenses in the conference. Sure they’re great guys and all, but DAMN is this offense bad at football!

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  45. It’s always the little things with struggling teams, they had them stopped on the 3rd and short until that late little push and then of course they hit a big pass play next.

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  50. New drinking game:
    Take a shot every time Mitchell misses an open receiver down field.
    Take two shots every time they run a big play that gets called back because of penalty.

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  66. So, Baylor’s playoff chances more or less end, Oregon stays alive for the chance to win the division, and Oregon State is putting together another typical 2015 performance. Easily the worst day of college football for me this year. Time for another drink!

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  68. I can’t even get the shitty stream from the Pac-12 website to work. Even the Pac-12 doesn’t want to watch OSU football

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  72. I did like how GA and staff went for it. Called that timeout with 32 seconds left It’s what you have to do when the outcome doesn’t really matter. The stupid analyst was saying you don’t want Mitchell to throw an interception….who cares? You’re down 24-3 anyway.

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  74. I switched to UFC, but Villamin has 6 catches now? I swear we just forget we have a 6’4″ receiver with good hands on the field sometimes. Or does he get subbed out a lot? Either way, 6 catches seems like a season high. Need more throwing to him, less to Hawkins/Jarmon/Boldin.

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  80. Wait I thought Nolanhyphenlewis was the fastest guy in the world? Goff has his number and he looks like a fucking middle schooler out there.

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  86. Just chunk play after chunk play. I have to admit, I did not think it was going to be this bad. I wonder if Riley knew the shit storm that was coming? He surely would have been fired or “retired” if he had stayed.

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  98. Angry, don’t you think there is something “off” in the GA/Storm Woods relationship? Or maybe it’s with Baldwin? The Beavs don’t have much talent, but when Woods is healthy I don’t see why he wouldn’t get 20 carries a game.

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  100. I think the guy is hit or miss… Unfortunetly for him, he has not been the same since the Utah hit a couple years ago. Also, he lacks big play speed and we need someone back there who COULD break off a big run when the lanes are there.

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    • There just seems to be something there that they won’t discuss. He’s better than Boldin taking a fly sweep and running out of bounds. He usually get’s positve yards.

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      • I just think it is the lack of aggressiveness IMO. GA is used to RB’s who hit the hole, not tip toe. If Storm would run like he did in the CW last year, every play with toughness, I don’t think we would be having this conversation.

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      • Storm still says all the right things and looks engaged on the sideline. I think T.Cannon has a point with the lack of aggressiveness thing.

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        • I think Storm is a great person, and role model and IMO will end up being a good coach (maybe HS level?) I just don’t want my starting RB being scared of contact.

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  103. I said this on a previous thread.
    Craig Robinson took over from the total shit Jay John or was it John Jay left and took them to a low tier championship. Good coaching. Tinkle took over a somewhat better group that Robinson left and went farther. Good coaching. Football is more complicated but GA is not showing his coaching talent. He seems to be working with what he hopes for instead of what he has.

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  110. Ok FUCK THAT GUY, going straight helmet to helmet with Mitchell. NM is on the sidelines now. What a scumbag. Or at least a really shitty player.

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  111. Ugly lame duck throw by McMaryion. Guy was wide open in corner and he throws an easy 2 point conversion so low the Cal guy beat soundly had a fairly easy time knocking it away.

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  112. Poor MM. Always asked to go in during tough spots…

    News flash – we’re terrible, H2O is liquidty and the ucks suck!

    Terrible weekend, Simple Jack and the ucks win and we get boatraced.

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    • Yeah and what’s up with his injury? Have there been any specific updates? Is he rehabbing, done for the season. It seems odd, just like with Woods.

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      • That’s scary. I lived in Utah for 15 years, so I follow the programs. He’s a decent back up, but I would be very surprised if he’s some kind of savior. People forget he was playing in the Mountain West also.

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    • -2???? Ha, have fun being losers and being happy with the blowouts NM and Co. are producing. We were with Stanford with SC and both wins come with him. Grow some balls and explain why you thumbed down my post, unless you are too scared to admit you just don’t like a black QB….

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          • Is this supposed to be a response to my comment below that we make fun of plenty of white people? Um yeah, way more than blacks or native americans.

            Have you heard of Riley, Banker, Langsdork, or Cav? They were the biggest joke for almost a decade around here. Also throw in donut loving Schnell and Mamma Machado, etc. We mostly only make fun of whites, but you’re just a social justice warrior/asshole who only sees things through your prism. Keep looking for reasons to get offended about everything, dude, keep looking.

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        • Being Native American, I was subjected to many racist moments growing up and still do to this day. Maybe I am overly sensitive to it, but I have seen racist comments posted on this forum by contributors, and the way I see it, the SC haters just don’t like a cocky african american running the Beaver offense, similar to people who dislike Cam Newton because of his “personality”

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  126. Hyperextended knee, I’ve done it can be problematic if you can’t get the swelling under control. My guess is he comes back next week or the week after

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    • Arizona, Cal, and Oregon are worse in yards per game. Oregon, Arizona, and Arizona State are worse in points per game. So not the worst defense in the Pac-12.

      Overall OSU Defense is 93rd in Yards/Game and 94th is Points/Game.

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      • “Arizona, Cal, and Oregon are worse in yards per game. Oregon, Arizona, and Arizona State are worse in points per game. So not the worst defense in the Pac-12.”

        Wow, that’s saying something about the shitty state of D in the conference. Even with these spread and option offenses, that is pathetic. You’d think that having the time to practice against it consistently (UO), and face other teams in conference that you wouldn’t see such poor defense.

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    • Hey, Najee the sax player doesn’t fumble, run directly into your opponenets coverage and his rendition of For the Love of You is pretty good 80’s smooth jazz.

      And yeah, eff the other guy. Another low star, no other offer diamond that Riley thought he could make All Pac. At least he got a scholly on The Drive.

      I’m not sure this was the best season to be on The Drive. Our performance, facilities, equipment, etc. make the Utes Program look sooo much better (they are this year) than us. Hopefully Dr. Ray and Stansbury will see how embarrasing we look and continue to invest. VTV isn’t enough and frankly the remodel compared to Utah, Wazzu and the rest of the league is half assed. I wish I couod come up with an extra $40-50 mil. to do it right.

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    • McM had the chance to pick up 2 or 3 yards on 2nd down by scrambling. Don’t do it then, then pretty soon you don’t even get it on 4th down.

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  137. Utah was overrated anyway. Pac-12 is bad this year with Oregon having a down year. Stanford and USC are okay. I don’t think any of those teams deserve to be in the playoff (hate this playoff, btw. it will be expanded once everyone whines about the 5th team being left out)..

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  142. MM has thrown some nice deeper balls this year in his limited time. I’d like to see him get a full game. See what he can do when comfortable and time to get in rhythm. I’ve seen glimpses that he can pass. Looks like a better passer than Mitchell or Collins to me.

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    • He wasnt able to beat out the other two, that says alot right there. They all have looked the same, in that they are inconsistent at best throwing the ball. Some good balls and alot of overthrows, poor throws, and misreads. I wonder about McGivens, or if its just the talent. Crowton hasn’t made a difference.

      I said at the beginning of the season we would see all three play and maybe all three start. It still may happen, but I don’t need to see MMM start to know what he is.

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      • It says nothing because this staff seems really bad with QBs. At one point MM beat out Mitchell, then Mitchell beat out both MM and Collins…lol

        GA has a history of this in Wisconsin, too. Apparently he just isn’t good with QBs.

        But MM did look like crap on that drive. All I was saying is he has throw enough nice deep balls this year to be intriguing. There’s nothing else intriguing about the season, so let’s see him play a game and know for sure.

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        • He’s the CEO so at one point or another he’s gotta be more “QB focused” but that’s why I thought he brought in a veteran OC and an OC/QB COTY, right? It’s on all of them though that they’re not in play – at least it seems that way – with a high star HS QB and or a JC guy… There’sx no way they think that Moran will come in and be the answer. NM, MM or Chicken Head could be a lot better next year and still not be Pac 12 starter level. Don’t get me started on the D. Broken record but #17, #12 and #14 shouldn’t be on the field.

          Any thoughts on our walk-on safety Ovgard? He wasn’t perfect but at least it seemed like he had a pulse. I’d rather have guys that look like they care, get the meaning of the Civil War and sell out to make plays. But at the end of the day talent trumps…

          BTW, I’ve seen video of Brennen consistently telling his receivers to catch with their hands yet VB always catches against his body. Three years of coaching and he catches (or attempts) like my 4th grade girlfriend. WTF?

          Lastly, doesn’t matter since he’s not the answer but NM’s “wind up” release makes Mannion’s release look like Aaron Rodgers.

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    • He looked like he didn’t really want to run the ball on the keeper and his two passes were shit. Where in the fuck do all of the other college programs get these damn freshmen who come off the bench and light it up???

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      • Yeah that’s why I don’t understand the freshman excuse. There are freshman playing well all over the place.

        To me a sign of a talent problem is not being competitive. So that’s what I think this is.

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        • It looks like lack of talent to me too. Riley did a pretty nice job of hiding it. I truly did not think the Beavs were going to fall into the realm of being mostly non-competitive. That’s a little scary to me. You look at programs like Kansas or Wake Forest who had some success in the recent past, lost it and just can’t get it back. I hope OSU does not fall into the category.

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          • I don’t think that will happen. Wake Forest is an academic school and basketball school caught in a bad location (i.e. semi SEC territory) and Kansas is the worst State in the Union, and another basketball school. OSU has a good location working for it, and the coach is a proven program builder and winner. I’d say better location and coaches than those two programs. I think OSU will be fine, but I did think good coaching could overcome some of the talent issues. Now I realize it can’t. Almost everyone objective (mainstream media) had this as a 2 win team, and for once they were right. I think I read there are 52 freshman on the roster? If so, that is insane. That falls on Riley squarely. He apparently didn’t know how to build a roster or stagger scholies after 30 years in the business.

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          • Did you hear that even Mama M blamed Riley for not demonstrating ability to “build a roster or stagger scholies” She said it on that dam podcast thing.
            To be more specific, she said the situation of having 52(?) freshmen on the squad was “on Riley”.

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          • You mean hiding the lack of talent from the media, right? I don’t think anyone in the mainstream media or here noticed what a young and imbalanced roster he was leaving the program. I think one of the reasons he left was he knew he couldn’t win with this roster.

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          • I believe the 52 freshman is when you count freshmen and redshirt freshman. So that is 26 in each class. So that is really only a little heavy. At 20 per class for five classes you get 100 players. Considering some attrition in upperclassmen, 26 is only slightly heavy.

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  146. MM just doesn’t seem tomhave alpha male leadership qualities. Bad body language.

    Jarmon open and he can’t deliver that pass. We don’t have a single D1 starter on the roster – not counting DG.

    Decoud is not that good and Kendall Hill wouldn’t be starting at Portland State.

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    • WIth OSU’s three-and-outs, and Nick getting some decent punts so the Ducks don’t always have the short field, they could go for over 800 yards.

      Andersen has a defensive background: how can OSU possibly tackle so poorly? It is stunning.

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      • Really good point. I think that the staff is pretty balanced but you’d think we’d be stronger on D. Constantly whiffing and being out of position isn’t just a talent issue. The football IQ of the guys we have playing at the moment has got to be pretty low. Hill back peddling as the RB came right at him made me sick. He wasn’t even being blocked. And he whiffs as the dude runs by him. Reaction? Looking towards the night sky and clapping his hands like “shoot, better luck next time…” I’m perplexed when GA tees up Noland Lewis and Hill during his pressers when we constantly see them whiff or miss an assignment. These guys should’ve learned basic tackling in CYO/Pop Warner and it’s not like they’re freshmen…

        WTF happened to our LBs? I didn’t hear Rommel’s name called once tonight. Was he playing?

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  151. Lucas shows promise. Oregon’s DAT was about the same size, and he carried the ball. Lucas ought to be able to spend some time at RB and WR next year and in ensuing years.

    Of course we must remember Cal’s D gave up 777 yards to UO, and Cal hadn’t won in a month. Its not like they’re a great team.

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  152. Man we need a lot of help. Only positive I took away is Paul Lucas seems to be a good talent. I wonder why the staff hasn’t let him carry the rock prior to this game. I actually think he could be a good tandem back with Nall for the next few years, and it could give teams trouble because both those guys can spread out wide and run routes as well. The only problem with that is we need a qb, if the staff can’t solve this problem in the off season next year will be just as bad on offense.

    Defensively I didn’t see any positives to take away. We are such a soft team. Peko had a few good plays, and he does seem to get in the backfield a lot. Since we’re thinking future here, I really think we need a couple JC d lineman, and at least one linebacker. That and cross our fingers Irvine and Wallace can make a impact next season.

    If I was in the staff I would be going full force at JC recruiting. Qb, d line, and a linebacker would help us out tremendously. Willis seemed to look pretty good at Utah, but this week, I saw him getting ran over constantly. All in all, my positive vibes are slowly dwindling. I thought we’d be better, at least competitively. This season dampers so much expectations for next year as well.

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    • I hope they can hold on to the highly ranked DB recruits…Noland-Lewis looked terrible to me; out of position, beaten badly, victimized…

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      • Holding together the recruiting class should be priority #1 at this point.

        Question: if they somehow beat the Ducks, does that change everyones’ feeling about this season? That is, does it become a success if they win the CW and land a top 35 recruiting class?

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        • A 3-4 win season would probably be within the range of reasonable expectations given the regime change,scheme changes, and youth, but winning the CW would represent a significant success in my estimation; at Autzen, breaking a 7-year losing streak to boot…..

          It would represent program improvement, because Riley would have done neither (CW win and recruiting results). Also, Riley/Banker probably would have lost to SJSU.

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        • Depends somewhat on how they beat the Ducks, a solid effort (few penalties, smart playcalling, consistent and clean fundamentals) against a full strength Ducks squad which doesn’t make a lot of errors would make the season a success only when combined with a top 35 recruiting class. Oh yeah, throw in word that Isaac is coming back.
          Maybe success is the wrong term, but it would give good reason for optimism going forward.

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      • Noland Lewis is a redshirt Jr, right? That’s depressing… They should let him return kick-offs, they say he’s fast and misses tackles so maybe he can make the opposing team miss.

        #17 to offense and Barrs-Woods to D! That’s the ticket!!!

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    • I didn’t have high hopes for the O this season, defense is by far the biggest disappointment for me. Strong has regressed (when not out with injury), Mageo has not lived up to early promise, Grimble has been limited, and, in general the fundamentals are still lacking. I honestly did believe the D would keep the Beavs in at least 10 of 12 games………..live n learn.

      No surprise GA says pass rushing DE’s are one of the top priorities for recruiting. It is, however, surprising that he never seems to mention the need at QB….is he putting all eggs in the Moran/Garretson basket?

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      • I don’t understand why he isn’t going harder after another QB, either. Even if he likes Garretson, then Collins is the backup (bad) and Mitchell/MM/Moran after that. So 1 deep, really, and that’s just because we’re assuming Garretson can play because he’s older and knows the system. That might be wrong, and then what? Need to bring in much much more QB talent, imo. Riley always had a QB. He even made Armstrong decent at NE. It was the one thing Riley was good at. Makes me wonder if one of the QBs who transfered might have been better than all these guys. When it comes to analyzing QBs, Riley > GA. No doubt. Riley is worse at everything else I’ve seen so far.

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        • Don’t forget Riley never had a solid succession plan; we always heard good QB play only came every few years because it took so long to learn Riley’s Pro system.

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        • Began to wonder the same about the qb’s who left. Did del Rio wear concrete shoes? Figure an upperclassmen with ability to read, accurate arm and no legs would have put up more offense than these guys this year.

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        • Why would anyone -1? I despise Opie the coach but Angry’s onto something here… I really hope McG is a lot better than his QBs are showing.

          NM can’t complete simple throws, his release takes about 2.5 seconds and I haven’t seen him complete a pass to the leftside of the field. You’d think after 10 months he’d be a little better…

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          • OSU has three eligible QB’s on the roster. A true freshman and two redshirt freshman. All three who quite possibly may not posses the tools be D1 caliber quarterbacks. You can put lipstick on a pig. But in the end, it’s still a pig. Angry also stated spread offenses rely on good QB play. And OSU does not have one right now capable of doing that. Fact. Add in 50 other freshman and some candy assed Riley hold overs who absolutely cannot or just simply refuse to put out effort and you have the dumpster fire we are seeing now. What I’m seeing is youth, lack of talent at some skill positions and a few quitters on the field. Hot garbage. This is a coaching staff not accustomed to losing like this. The players however are. Let them recruit and flush the Riley mindset out of the program. Sucks now but patience is a virtue. Learn some.

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        • maybe because as GA previously stated they’re recruiting for more offense/defense balance? Too many offensive guys not enough D guys ring a bell? Think big picture. Coaching staff is probably doing that for a reason

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  158. I’m thinking this team is pretty close to early-mid 80’s bad. What we’re seeing isn’t just a team with depth issues since the starters are lousy too. Opie effed us big time but GA and staff have got to show us some evidence that they’re coaching these kids up. The staff budget was increased by what, $2.5-3.0 mil per annum minimum, right? We are in for a much longer rebuild – 3-4 years before it gets better imo.

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    • Missed tackles, bad pass coverage, bad passes, dropped passes…he can coach them up all he wants. At some point the players have to make the plays.

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      • Honestly, you think that it’s just the players? I get it it – we’re young, hurt, new scheme and so on but you think this staff has performed at a really high level? Hey, I’m still bullish with this staff but when was the last time there was this much of a drop off? Even the 3 win Opie teams were better than the continuous shit shows we’re seeing every Saturday. It ain’t just the talent – there’s something really wrong with this bunch and the coaches haven’t been able to figure it out.

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        • I can agree with what you’re saying. But I also feel like I’m not yelling at the tv when we have 3 timeouts and 2 minutes before halftime, and we’re kneeling the ball. Having talent and getting out coached sucked.
          That being said, I think GA has lost some of the upperclassmen and they can be causing more bad than good to the younger players.

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          • I agree with you wholeheartedly on clock management. Opie would have taken a knee before the half so no Villy TD but we also harped for a long time about leveraging whatever talent we had instead of forcing a system. I thought we’d run Lucas and Haskins until the Cal D stopped them but no. The Nall deal at Utah. Handing off to Bolden if it’s not a jet sweep is guaranteed to lose yards. Candidly I’m not seeing a lot of innovative plays so I trust that they’re dumbing it down but man…

            The upperclassmen may be poisoning the well but they’re most likely not playing since I’m assuming GA won’t put up with that crap. I’m grasping at straws I guess… I predicted 4 wins this year but I didn’t think we’d get to this point. Been outscored 95-24 over the past week. That’s Joe Av bad.

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  159. I think GA is treating the players much different than Riley. He probably screams and yells in his motivation tactics. Inside source tells me there are “lots of holes in the walls” from GA punching them or coaching staff in the offices around the VRC. Seems interesting if you ask me. I don’t think these players are used to the hard nosed culture GA brings. These are just assumptions of course… I was talking to my cousin and I told him GA is the polar opposite of Riley. The extreme change is probably only good for a handful of players. This group probably needed a coach somewhere in the middle. Sitake seems so quiet on the sidelines and GA reminded me of Riley standing by himself and very quiet. Probably planning his exit plan. Lucas, Nall and Collins(as a WR) will be great in the spread next year. We just don’t have the athletes to run that offense this year.

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    • “Lucas, Nall and Collins(as a WR) will be great in the spread next year. We just don’t have the athletes to run that offense this year.”

      Reflecting back on Riley’s alleged, and self-proclaimed plan to update his offense: vary the tempo, have a mobile QB, incorporate some read option, and looking at the roster he built: Vanderveen (HS running QB, poor thrower), McM (mobile HS qb, not D1, easy to sign), Mitchell (long slow release, ok mobility for moving the chains, not DI, easy to sign), Del Rio transfer (pro style, live, but inaccurate arm), Penysl recruitment (pro style QB, no mobility) it all reflects Riley’s lack of commitment to any true plan or – gasp! – offensive identity.

      It was like he was kinda sorta going to maybe try to update his offense and take advantage of the fact that defenses have to account for a dual threat QB, but he just wasn’t really sold on it. He ended up with a menagerie of non-solutions and bailed before he had to do something with it and tarnish his .48366 career winning percentage at OSU…..

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      • Correct, Nall is hurt, Collins is hurt, we have no true D1 QB until Garreston starts and Lucas is Just being introduced to us with 3 games left. Hopefully some more athletic OL to hold on the edges like the ducks. I’m not a fan of the spread, but damn they look like shit trying to run it. So flashes of brilliance with Lucas.

        I agree on Riley’s plan, wait what plan!? Haha.

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  160. I think GA’s just getting a head start on tearing down Valley. Interesting it that’s true.

    GA’s sideline demeanor has never bothered me and he’s called out guys on the field. He certainly looks engaged, At least he isn’t joking around with Sitake like Opie used to do with Banker while getting their asses handed to them. With that said I was hoping that we’d see better fundamentals with what we thought at the beginning of the season as an all star staff. If we won 4 games and saw progression then I’d be a hog in slop but I can’t even describe what we’re seeing right now. We are one of the worst D1 teams in the country.

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  162. That’s fine by me buddy. Wait who shoved a fork up your ass!!??? Haha go talk to your coach I’m sure he’s punched a lot more holes in the walls around there. Because there’s no better way to coach a football team then ramming your fist through drywall over and over again.Hahahaha

    Good luck on the next 30 year no bowl streak!

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    • You like forks up your ass? Well….ok then. Tell me which is better, punching holes in walls, or protecting rapists who transfer out of your program, like your coach did?

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      • I’ll go with whatever option means I don’t have to live in Corvallis… Are you serious?

        Ok, I guess you get what you deserve then. we’ll see how you feel after Jake and coach Pete Ram their foot up your ass!

        BTW, how do you get an OSu cheerleader into your room? Grease those fat hips and puuuuuuuush!!!! LOL #Dawgdayz

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  163. In Seattle, we are surrounded by excellence at all times. Corvallis doesn’t even have an airport! Which directly means that unless you like sheep or a good grass seed pasture, there’s absolutely no reason to go there. Ever.

    I remember driving to a game there a few years ago… One of the only places in the world that makes Pullman look nice!

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    • Since you live in seattle, are you excited that you’re getting paid $15 an hour to mop bathrooms at Mcdonalds? I mean at least you’re getting free wifi..right?

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    • Seattle is the biggest piece of shit City on the west coast, seems to fit. I’d kill myself faster than Cobain if I lived in a boring, overrated City like SEA. At least you have a mall!

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      • C’mon guys, Seattle is not a sh*thole. Traffic’s bad but it’s one of the most beautiful large cities in the world with the sound and Cascades. Let’s keep the angst focused on Spewgene.

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    • I’ve been to Seattle one time. It’s a shit hole and I won’t go back. I think I saw you. There was this bum underneath an overpass taking a piss right next to the freeway.

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    • Y’know, as someone who’s stuck out in the South, Corvallis is a pretty nice fucking place. There’s plenty of nature and parks out there, plenty of peace and quiet. Should I want to live in a big, pollution-ridden shithole, metropolis area? No, fuck that! You and your stupid-ass big city is killing this planet. Fuck you.

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  165. i really REALLY hope GA can keep this recruiting class intact. The talent is just not there. Need to get his guys in ASAP.

    On a side note, I still think Baldwin is calling too many pass plays. I do notice sometimes we get a 5-7 yard run and then we get an incomplete pass on 2nd down. This forces us to throw again on 3rd. And another 3 and out. He KNOWS our QBs are garbage at throwing but keeps trying to throw. I get it, he’s trying to mix it up. But he’s not playing to the strengths of his team.

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  166. I keep seeing lots and lots of dropped passes, and poor attempts to be in position to catch the ball. The lone remaining Riley assistant coach is coaching the receivers? No wonder why they miss the big picture- catch the freaking ball. He probably just has them mailing it in instead of working on their ball catching muscle memory. At this point, I think all our receivers look like great DB candidates.

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  167. I don’t put much stock in this list but GA just cracked #30 on the Coaches Hot Seat List. It’s good that list didn’t exist back in my day. I was able to exist under the radar for six glorious seasons. It took me two full years to win two games so, in my eyes, GA is way ahead of the curve. JB

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  168. Fwiw. I got a message from a wbb commit who said Ionescu was on her official this weekend, and she thinks we have a good shot at getting her at OSU. Said she really liked it.

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  169. Has anyone heard any recruiting news of GA & staff going after any other QB prospects this time around? I’m still not sold on Moran… I know GA is smarter than to believe Moran/Garretson have the tools to take the team to the next level, but it still makes me wonder.

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    • Not sure why you don’t like Moran, but I think he will be much better than anybody we have now, if he learn for one year while Garretson plays next season even better. It would not surprise me to see him as a two or three year starter.

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      • I am just not impressed with Moran’s film so far… Your reasoning is exactly what should be attracting a higher level recruit, a chance to either start right away for a Power 5 school or (worst-case scenario) get mentored by DG for one year and then start as a RS Frosh.

        I do understand that Moran, DG and some other OSU targets are from the same school, so that might be part of it. It just feels like GA could do better. I hope I’m wrong!

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        • Regardless of his film, which I don’t think it is bad.
          Check out his stats:
          http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/mason-moran/BSDqIvTuEeKZ5AAmVebBJg/gendersport/football-stats.htm

          His QB rating is 111, he accounts for 31 TD’s. He ran for almost 1,000 yards. At what point do you start believing the stats over the film? I believe his team is in the state semi-finals. The kid is a winner. Was a captain as a Junior when he was the backup to a kid that signed with ASU. I think we could do alot worse.

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        • Depends. He’s surrounded by 4 and 5 star talent. His #1 WR is probably the best WR prospect int he West and a 5-star. Lucas is a 4-star. There’s a ton of other talent around him.

          His mechanics are weird, and in the game on tv when those players around him were injured, he looked bad.

          Running for 1,000 yards is impressive, but OSU needs someone who can pass, make decisions, run — in that order.

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          • Not a QB guru but the fact that NM hasn’t been coached to improve/change his release is alarming. His HS film shows exactly the same takes forever wind up. Moran, although he looks like an overall better athlete, also has a weird release/motion. McG and Co. must feel it’s not an issue but…

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          • His motion is a little funky, but its like cocked and loaded, and he keeps the ball up high and fires it with his arm. So, his arm strength probably isn’t the best, but he has quick accurate passes. Unlike Mitchell whose delivery is low and long, his is high and quick, but its also short so he won’t throw very far.

            He is very good runner, quick and fast. In addition, his size is good. He probably will grow into his 6’3″ frame and looks like he could easily add 30 lbs.

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    • Talked to someone who knows a little about the qb situation. Said there are 2 qb’s they like for 2016. My guess is that means Moran and Struck (that’s just me filling in the blanks though)
      Also sounds like theyre high on Garretson. Again, my guess is Garretson starts next year.

      Nothing official so take that all as just rumor/speculation. Doesnt sound like there are any other prospects in the works you havent already heard of

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    • Doubt it. He was in on the two point conversion at TE; I was surprised to even see him at all given his injury status. He’d probably be physically able to go at QB vs dawgs but I don’t think it will happen.
      When asked about a backup QB here is GA’s response as reported by Gina: “Hopefully Nick will be back,”

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  172. OBT. Peyton Manning is done, that’s too bad I always liked watching him play (when he wasn’t a broken old man (for nfl)). He got the passing record at least.

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  173. Is Gary Andersen and staff heavily recruiting QB’s? Or only going after Mason Moran? What do fans think….. Do you think Andersen and staff fully comprehend the significance and importance of winning the Civil War? From looking around this state, if you aren’t an OSU student, alum or fan, you wouldn’t even know OSU existed! OSU gets no respect or recognition from local media. Hell, even the Gazette Times reports more about hole, than they do the Beavers! In the stores, there is such a poor selection and representation of OSU merchandise, the list goes on and on. But, win the Civil War and problem solved, it’s that important.

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      • I couldn’t agree more… that’s all there is to it!!! I beat the Ducks twice in my six years. It totally leveled the field and put me on easy street. JB

        PS: Keeping this years team a secret is not bad coverage.

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      • Not this year, but wait for it….. (It’s the same DAM thing Beaver fans say every year for seven consecutive years) “Wait until next year” But, how many years must we continue with this insanity?

        So, I say why not this year? Either the dreaded streak is going to end, or it never will! Yes, I know this year the odds are a million to one. It has to start somewhere. It has to start sometime.
        What better place than here, what better time than now?

        http://youtu.be/RZul_mSFczs

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        • so this team is down to one QB or so the D gets tired after 1.5 qrts and the offence can’t score enough unless GA has some or plan just for the Ducks I think it is highly unlikely they will win this year. But hope is endless go here is to a civil war victory I’ll be with you

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    • I still put on my old beavers stuff you have a problem with it….No I kid but I can see what you mean but this team is not there yet I’d think they’ll have it figured out in 2 or so years

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  174. I’d feel a lot better IF there was a top notch JC QB (3 to play 3 or 3 to play 2) who fit the mold of what the staff is looking for and was willing to attend a school that didn’t have an airport.

    I’d feel even better if there was news about the staff talking to JC linemen, both OL and DL.

    But then it’s getting late and it’s been a long day so I’m probably asking too much when it comes to my feeling better.

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      • Some of the complaints are nonsense. The reason the Badgers have not gone into the tank this year is because of GA’s hire at DC, Dave Aranda. He is a great coach and will get a HC gig in the near future. Chryst is an excellent offensive coach and has adapted to his players strengths this year.
        Badgers have a hard time running the ball this year. Injuries have played a part, but several of my Badger friends tell me the O-line depth problems go back to Coach Pig Boy’s last two years before he skipped out to Arkansas. The walk on thing may be legit, but the S/C issue is bull. They are not as strong on the O-line because they are playing young guys instead of 4th or 5 th years guys. It sure has not hurt their D which is much more athletic.

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    • Thanks for the link. Hard to take seriously, as it is just full of conjecture. There is no way to validate most of his criticisms.

      For example, two criticisms were Andersen did not recruit the O line and state of Wisconsin hard enough. Here are the commitment percentages of O linemen and Wisconsin players as a percentage of the total class for Andersen’s last 2 years, and this year:

      O line: 19% (2014 class), 16% (2015), 14% (2016, so far)
      Wisconsin players: 23% (2014), 26% (2015), 19% (2016)

      So, Andersen seemed to focus at least as hard on these tenets of Wisconsin football as the current staff. How many of this columnist’s other arguments are equally non-factual?

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  177. How ’bout some tough talk?
    Who has GA singled out as being tough, regardless of whether or not they are eligible next year, add to the list if you’ve seen quotes from the staff:
    Peko
    J.Mitchell
    Ortiz
    Clarkson
    Ovgard
    Lucas
    Togiai

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    • I was surprised when I heard she was coming for a visit this late in the early signing period. I’ve had her as a Cal lean this entire time, but she seems to love our state. I still think she ends up at Cal, but maybe Tudor can work some magic.

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    • It says a lot about the staff and players that she held off on signing in order to take this trip. Let’s pull an upset or two of UT & ND to seal the deal.

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      • We have to sign her, her first name is Sabrina and she is from Walnut Creek, one of my former residences. Tell Reuck it is OK to name drop me. That should seal the deal.

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    • Cal’s not a bad look for her. I’d love for her to come to OSU because she’d be our first McDonald’s All American, Pivec notwithstanding and we’d be a Final Four type team. Just anyone but hole, honestly.

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  179. For those looking for an OSU-themed alternative to Nike tees or other, here’s a source:

    “Description – Oregon State rose to respectability under football coach Mike Riley. But now, it’s a new era for the Beavers. Coach Gary Andersen has a tough-guy reputation and his no-nonsense teams won’t be pushed around. It’s “No More Mr. Nice Guy,” in Corvallis.”

    http://grafletics.com/collections/tees/products/the-heisman-tee

    http://grafletics.com/collections/tees/products/no-more-mr-nice-guy-tee-state-orange-edition

    http://grafletics.com/collections/mens-tees/products/this-is-war-tee-state-issue

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    • I can see his point, to a certain extent. It is easy to just criticize. It is much harder to present a realistic solution, particularly since then you then open your ideas to criticism, as well.

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    • For fuck sake, can we please keep the politics off this site?

      I respect your opinion on the Beavs and sports, but the last thing I want to read here is what you or anyone else here has to say about national politics. There is so much of that crap everywhere I look and I’m just sick of it invading blogs and forums that simply need to leave the subject alone.

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    • What’s interesting is that’s the reply I get nearly every time when I question the common response to terrorism, which is that we need to kill more people. They respond with, ‘well, what else should we do?”. It’s as if the know killing people doesn’t solve anything, but they feel it must be done. I suppose it satisfies the human need for vengeance in these situations.

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      • They want to kill anybody who will not convert to their form of islam. There is no negotiating with them. ISIS likes to saw people’s heads off, just to mix it up now and then. How else do you deal with killers like that?

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        • I’m not an expert on terrorism, so I read what experts have to say. Getting at the financing, breaking down networks, and police action domestically helps. Killing individual terrorists on the ground rather than bombing from above, which results in creating a sense of terror for innocent people, is more effective as the bombing essentially creates more potential terrorist recruits.

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          • The cia and fbi have been doing a good job of shutting things down, if you believe they have done, what they claim they’ve done. And I mean chasing the cash flows and networks. But that brings up more questions, people claim the house of Saud is behind a lot of the financing. If that’s true, the government should answer for the cover ups. And that goes back to Carter’s era, and every president since. The world will never be short on terrorist shit heads, weather we take them out one at a time or nuke the whole area.

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          • Where do you get Carter era? Ibn had been dead for a generation by that time. Remember to always think of those magical years, 1952-53, when thinking of US involvement in the Middle East and SW Asia.

            In the case of SA, if you want to talk about the 70s, you need to start with the oil embargo and the back-channels that ended it (for the sake of killing Commies… and Cambodians).

            What arbitrary point in Carter’s admin are you trying to start this relationship?

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          • Carter human right initiatives (calling out the Shah on human right violations then mums the word with Saud). After the fall of the Shah, and russian afghan war started, Carter releases the Carter doctrine. ( Reagan extended it) it was to 1. Protect our intrests (Saud’s oil) 2. Keep Russia honest in the region. Which is fine, but it was partially pushed by Saud to cover for the Ayatollah Khomeinis rhetoric of overthrowing the muslim monarchies. And I think he’s a poopie head. And you are right it started way earlier than Carter. But I was really referring to the rise of modern terrorism and how it seems Saud is behind a lot of it, mostly financial.

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          • Your timelines and motives are a little off. And now that hoops is over, I will go to sleep.

            LBSU looks like a fun team this year, btw. I like Prince, Hammonds, Faust and Blackwell. They just don’t have any bigs to speak of.

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        • Stop coddling them. Kick the House of Saud to the curb.

          Where do they saw people’s heads off in stadiums full of citizens for the most inane of “laws” given by their deity? Where do they do all that Daesh does except in a sanctioned event with several undercards? Who (literally) holds their hands even though they do this? What was the overwhelming nationality of the 9/11 terrorists and their leadership? How are they funded?

          So… let’s ignore all that and bomb Iraq. That always works.

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          • Saud’s are bush league compared to ISIS, in the killing dept. Burning dudes, slow drowning, Detcord executions and dull knife head sawings beat sharp sword chops and stonings.

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          • No. The Saudis don’t put it on social media. I believe that’s because they black it out within 50 miles of the stadium holding that day’s festivities.

            Seriously, though, because it’s a state sponsored thing (at two to three times the net rate Daesh does it… not counting honor killings) they can relieve their bloodlust with human trafficking and public torture instead. So that keeps the numbers down in a per capita sense.

            But just stop giving them money and arms, and they will stop forwarding all of it to al Qaeda and Daesh, who give it all back to us with the best of intentions. And then stop doing the same for Kuwait and Qatar.

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  182. I’m thinking chat room for women’s hoops tonight?

    7pm vs Portland. I haven’t seen them play yet this year but plan to check that out.

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        • Hey Beavgopher, your gravatar is confusing me. I was like “I didn’t write that, but I wish I did”.
          And why are you purple — are you some kind of racist?

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          • Purple by accident…..Viking’s color. Yuk! They are in first place…..oh the horror.
            What an awful weekend of football. And yes I am a racist. Anti- BadgerDuckVikingist.
            Did I violate your safe zone?

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          • Hey Angry, if you want to talk just email me, don’t be passive aggressive. Never mentioned you specifically, nor did I ever think it was you, as like me, you were pulling for MM. I don’t know who thumbed down my posts and was talking generally to some of the people who come on here and post racist/sexist material that YOU allow on your website. Don’t take your day out on me, just because you don’t agree with what I have to say. This is an open forum right? Land of the free indeed… Haha

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          • I’m pulling for any player or coach who is good. Don’t care at all about the rest (skin, etc).
            And yes, I try my best to make this land of the free. Free = none safe zone. If you want safe zones go somewhere else?

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          • I know you do, I guess that is why I was surprised that you got so “Angry” haha. I do like to come to this website because you do run a good ship and have very good points IMO. LOVE YOU!

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          • Land of the free means you are free to receive criticism and opinions of others when you put something out there. It doesn’t mean your opinion deserves immediate and unparalleled respect and a nice little cuddle bubble protecting it from people who never got that memo.

            And… it technically only applies to governmental censorship. So beyond people being cynical, it also doesn’t apply to private entities who aren’t supported by the public trust.

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          • Exactly right, Jack.

            As a private site, I don’t have to do anything, but I think it sets a good example/contradiction for the trend of more censorship and “safe zones”.

            I actually find the most frustrating part of online discussion the fallacies/logic problems. Also when people don’t comprehend or purposefully mis-comprehend just to get offended and argue. So much of this going on right now all across the internet. It’s brutal.

            For a long time people here censored themselves, which was awesome. That’s still generally true but has regressed a bit, and I think it’s due to (a) feeling comfortable around one another after years and (b) the general online trend toward arguing about everything in comment sections and (c) maybe some are testing my limits seeing if they can get banned.

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          • It’s interesting, I guess, how the trend is toward more trolling/arguing than ever online, and at the same time more censorship. It probably means the average guy has little tolerance and a short leash.

            I find taking insults and shitty comments on the chin to be an interesting experiment in how much tolerance I actually have. Too bad more people don’t view it that way. Instead they just say they are tolerant, then in-tolerate everyone who thinks differently or pushes boundaries.

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          • I think you guys are confusing or conflating safe zones with something else. You all are making them sound like they’re some form of censorship when they’re just safe havens, like a confessional or a therapy session.

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  184. Why not more carries for D haskins? I believe he ripped off a 37 yard run. No doubt he is better up the middle than bolden… I think we need to mix some power with some Lucas fly sweep-a-rew

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    • Same talk just a different day. He’s clearly looking forward to the future, which he should be. A JC/transfer would be wise IMO. I don’t think we were ever in the running for Golson, but he just got benched at FSU, he would have started all season for us pending injury, maybe we need to use that angle and go after a QB who might be in a battle for PT next season.

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  186. Also, excited for T. Cook to come back from that pectoral injury he suffered this summer. That would be quite a bruising backfield if Nall, Haskins and Cook can all stay healthy. Maybe Lucas and Artavis Price (sp?) as our speed guys. Where does this leave C. Brown though? Out of the mix, or just run tons of guys? With the amount of injuries our RB core has sustained this year, I think it would be wise to carry as many RB’s as possible. I am still waiting for us to become a run first team like the coaches said we would be and understand injuries hamper that effort.

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    • Nall, Lucas, Haskins, Cook, Sands, Price (redshirts) are all fine; but they need some “tough” road graders up front who want to run the ball down the field.

      And given the option, OSU needs tough WR blocking (would Collins block as a WR?). Some WR holding out their on the edge always help free the RBs for long gainers…. right Jack?

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      • They actually called us on it once. I couldn’t believe it.

        Pac refs… smh… was at the hoops game just shaking my head all game. There were two non-travels called traveling before the ball was ever picked up. But what do you expect? That crew has always sucked eggs.

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    • I have some buddies going that still live in the area. OT but I heard rumblings SC got his knee scoped and if NM can’t go we may have a Vanderveen sighting. He’s a big boy now, but if Lorenzen (the ex Kentucky QB who weighs 300+) can do it than perhaps he can?

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        • Sorry should have clarified, I believe MM will get the start if NM can’t go, and VanderVeen would come in if MM goes down or is playing poorly. Personally I would like to see MM get a full week of prepping as the starter as NM is only 48% completion rating and has more INT’s than TD’s, but GA really likes NM for some reason so I don’t know what will happen.

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        • Haha it would suck so bad if he actually got to play and he sucked too. Talk about bursting my bubble.

          I seem to remember Garrett liked him more as Mannion’s backup.

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  190. Saw an interesting quote the other day that I was reminded of when reading Angry and Jack’s comments earlier on trolls, insults (or perceived insults), etc.

    It was something like…”Discussions normally involve an exchange of knowledge; arguments often involve an exchange of ignorance.”

    We do see a bit of the latter from time to time.

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  191. What’s with this “Lady Beavs” talk regarding the WBB players? I thought we established the official term “Beavers with Beavers”.

    So according to you guys, Rueck’s squad and Air Collins

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    • Cal wins going away 85-67. UCSB does not look like a bad team. Also USC defeated Monmouth 101-90. That same Monmouth team that won at Pauley on Friday night

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      • Zony beats Bradley by 30. Utah beats SDSU by a handful, as Nikegon does to Baylor… both at home.

        If anything, the conference power ranking should start off better than it did last year. UCLA is the one team who everyone out east will forgive and overrate just for the helluvit.

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        • UCLA is a blue blood. They will always get the benefit of the doubt. Just look at the tourney seeding last year, they didn’t even have to play a play-in game after going 20-13. UCLA and OSU could have the same record with a similar strength of schedule and they’d still be looked upon more favorably.

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  195. Did anyone else notice that Horowitz left NM off of his list of potential QB’s for next season? Probably just an oversight.
    BTW, Horowitz views StHC, as do many here, as better suited to WR, saying, “… I’m not convinced that his future is at quarterback. I could envision a switch to wide receiver, with a role in the wildcat formation …”

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/sports/blogs/horowitz/2015/11/16/beavers-quarterback-collins-out-remainder-season/75895006/

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    • Thanks for using good judgement and not talking about rape in the 1st comment of the new post.

      To answer your question, Riley will ignore it or give a 1 game suspension if it’s true. But maybe the guys didn’t do anything wrong. We live in a rabid everything-qualifies-as-rape era now, so it’s possible the girl is crazy or she had ‘buyer’s remorse’. We’ll have to wait to hear all sides of this one.

      But this goes to my point on that California Yes means Yes Bill — guys are going to have to get recordings of consent to protect themselves. Especially high profile guys like football players. I definitely would not want to be in college during this era. I mean we are not far from drafting contracts before sex.

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      • Indeed good judgment, saved about 50 Jack posts right there.

        Better make sure you can prove she wasn’t drunk or otherwise compromised when she signed that contact, though, and you better make sure it has a solid time recorded. I can see people setting up hidden cameras to document consent eventually.

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      • My question wasn’t so much about the accuracy (or “truthiness” ala Colbert) of the allegations but more to the question of how Biley handles it. Does he learn from his mistakes? (That was kind of rhetorical).

        I’ll be following the story out of morbid curiosity.

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    • While I don’t condone rape I also don’t believe young ladies should put themselves into a position where they can be raped so in cases like this I don’t consider them to be 100% innocent . Late night, probably booz involved, etc.

      Going into a room full of noise and dangerous boys might make her thirsty and hot but she has to realize that she’s messing with fire and shit happens.

      Victim of love by the Eagles

      What kind of love have you got?
      You should be home, but you’re not
      A room full of noise and dangerous boys
      still makes you thirsty and hot

      I heard about you and that man
      There’s just one thing I don’t understand
      You say he’s a liar and he put out
      your fire

      How come you still got his gun in your hand?
      Victim of love , I see a broken heart
      You got your stories to tell
      Victim of love, it’s such an easy part
      and you know how to play it so well

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  198. I also don’t want to clutter up the new thread, although I almost hit submit.

    Why does the MAC play so many football games on Tuesday and Wednesday? TV coverage?

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