Our boy “Bright” sounds a bit more realistic this week. This per the GT on the Bronco O’s tendency to present multiple looks: “It looks like one thing but it’s always another,” Ugwoegbu said. “So we’re going to have to be sound in our keys and a lot of our technique.”
I’ve been watching this csu Minnesota game to try and get a better feel for the beavs. No success idk what to think other than Minnesota isn’t blowing by their rt.
Once again watching the Minnesota game and there was a targeting play reviewed and it was clearly helmet to helmet but wasn’t called despite replay clearly showing that it was. Wow! Minnesota dirty?
Today we dine in Hell. This one is for the right to live in the NW. We are taking this Victory and better dam sure seize every opportunity to defeat BSU. Bring bezerker energy and get the entire stadium into it from the very start.
That’s b.s. i guess it’s up to u to clear them out. Lol. But seriously talk about a recipe for trouble. Next article boise fan is beat up (deservedly for being there and antagonizing ) charges to be pursued.
Today’s combo is what I have been waiting for. Solid with a different color helmet. Also want to see the solid black with white helmets sometime this year.
Keep seeing more and more in state kids as visitors for today’s game. Pretty impressive collection, especially considering Oregon is playing at home today too. Let’s hope the Beavs and coaching staff put on a good show for them.
I have a theory. Langsdorf is hacking into our headsets when our Off. Coordinators are making calls but it’s static-y and so it’s half his retarded plays and half ours.
I’m more concerned about the D and the non ability to stop the run. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Oregon St currently does not have the personnel to run a 3-4 scheme.
The defense is actually doing a good enough job. Problem is, the offense is so putrid the defense has no time to rest, and they’re getting worn down as a result.
Stanton with another craptastic game. That poor kid is just getting demolished week after week. Its time to replace him or put someone else on that side to help, and go to power and forget trying to spread teams out.
Our best offense has been when we run right at them, Nall had a 14 yd run and Pearce an 8 yd. run. But we try and run wide and Boise St penetration kills us. We are trying to be too cute. Nall has only carried it 5 times and Pearce once.
Knew this game was over when the Beavs got the 1st turnover and then ran that awful trick play backwards. Gotta run up the gut there and score a TD. Instead they run backwards and miss a FG. Game over.
Good teams convert that into a TD. Bad teams do what the Beavs did. Garrettson isn’t impressive at all.
Baldwin was a better OC than these two guys.
Too bad GA has impatience and nepotism and gave the job to an in-law, after just one season with really bad personnel and Collins at QB.
If we’re starting a walk on an to start the 3rd qtr, is there a walk on play caller anywhere one sideline to replace who ever the fuck is calling plays?
That’s right. Blount looking better than Garretson and main reason is because we are running the football straight ahead. This should be 60% of our play calls. Recruit some good O-linemen that are specialists in run blocking. Then incorporate some play action off that.
I wouldn’t quite say bloggers and fans call a better game, but I would say that whoever was calling the offensive play was vastly overthinking things. Sometimes, you just need to pound it down the middle.
I think it looks like Blount is the reason we are looking better on offense but I believe it;s because we started running the football straight at them instead of wide and that has been very effective.
Back to that 4th down, I would have liked to see the fake to Nall and the QB run. This guy seems to move fine and Boise was clearly selling out on the run. QB run or play action was the call there. Nall up the middle was okay (not an awful call), but once you see Boise stack the line it makes the odds of getting the 1st somewhere else go up.
Here we go again, terrible play calling. Do these coaches not realize that running straight ahead has been working. Why now are we trying to be something we aren’t.
Baldwin deserves another shot. Felt people got on him last year when the problem was Collins…he would have tied the hands of any OC. Baldwin’s offenses are historically great.
I feel the same way I felt with our old coaching staff. We were totally out coached in this game. We played a good 3rd qtr by running the football and our staff decided to be cute and it cost us. Blount did a good job, but his success was because of the running game. Our play calling in the 4th qtr. was horrible, they went away from what was working and called plays like we were in 2 minute offense. This was a game we could have won with better coaching.
O line isn’t good enough to wait for plays to develop for passing plays. OC should call mainly run plays. Quick throws. Bootlegs. Then MAYBE Play action after we’ve established the run. Just boggles my mind. I hope GA addresses this. Cause this was just poorly called.
This might be the worst Oregon defense they’ve had. Previous years, they at least had the speed to contain the edges in the running game. Can’t even stop that anymore.
Couple comments by GA post game:
-some young guys on D stepped up in 2nd half (not sure I can ID them).
-Garrett was not 100% during the week, left open the possibility of a two QB system.
Nall made it clear that Blount had practiced as the backup during the week. With the limited time the local scribes are allowed to watch practice, his appearance was a big surprise; what a difference from the last staff and their open practices.
Good for the buffs, but not a fan of their coach preaching postgame with more God references than a priest on Sunday. Maybe Notre Dame should hire him.
Blount in because Garretson’s leg injury. Until entering the game Blount had never practiced with the ones. In other words he did as well as he did without the benefit of “playing catch” with the receivers he was throwing to. Imo that makes his performance even more impressive.
So he never had practiced with the 1’s, and even though McMaryion had, we went with the least experienced guy? This move just seems more like a knee jerk message to the team to shake things up and light a fire under the ass of the usual #1’s. If they knew Garretson was gimpy enough to have Blount practice a little with the 2’s, why not have him take some pracrice reps with the 1’s to prepare for this circumstance?
Wonder how long till McMaryion transfers out too?
Maybe it’s not a big loss if he goes, but at some point it would be nice to have a qb last more than 1-2 seasons.
I’m not so sure it’s bad management. It is certainly a clear message to all the guys not playing that they can be given a chance and to all the starters that their job is not locked up. It was definitely a wake-up call. The other half of this experiment has yet to reveal itself; how do guys respond? Maybe the answer to that question is the important bit.
I’m just saying, it’s bad management from the standpoint of wanting to put your team in the best position to win. Blount maybe should have practiced with the 1’s at least a little in practice, for his benefit and the benefit of the other guys playing with him. Having their 1st snaps together happen in a live game seems almost like a public shaming.
Yes, the response of the team is the bottom line. I’d have thought any complacent players would already have gotten the message. You make a good point about the encouragement this kind of move may give to guys further down the depth chart.
GA is giving all of us a continuing look at the hard ass (read: serious) management which was missing for so long. This move to send a message to #1’s that they have to perform to keep their jobs follows the departure over the last year of several SA’s who saw the writing on the wall. And in a radio interview this week GA made it clear that if guys want to leave “we’ve got a piece of paper that makes that really easy”.
Seems to me that (SO FAR) the majority of the players are responding well to GA’s serious approach; I don’t see apathy on the sidelines anything like was so obvious with the previous staff. Gotta wonder how long these guys will continue to fight. As GA recently said, he has been through these rebuilds before but these players have not.
This group badly needs a couple conference wins…… Cal? WSU? Zona? Nike?
I’m not a psychologist and I don’t play one on TV either. But, it seems like going into the Colorado game, we are looking at a (best case?) scenario where the Beavs got their collective arses kicked in the first half but played hard in the second while the Buffs are on an extreme high beating UO. My hope here is that CU falls flat and the Beavs show a little pride.
On a side note, I think that after all the punts the Beavs have made, they have still given up 0 yards on returns. That’s a pretty ridiculous stat.
Yup…. Special teams has been a quiet positive….that good coverage, onside kick, Bolden return and 40 yard field goal was exactly what they needed to give them confidence in their game. I don’t expect those things every game, but things are looking bright for the STs.
1. BSU was just plain faster and stronger. All the weightlifting stories from the offseason were just puff pieces.
2. WIth Blount playing, that’s 5 QBs in two years for GA. Not a good sign.
3. Nall is slow to the edges. Best runs were up the middle.
4. Defense sucks. Were beat to the edge many many times.
5. 2 turnovers, zero points. Terrible.
6. Oline needs to step it up if the Beavs are going to win any conference games.
All what weightlifting stories? You’ve been going off on a comment in an article from two months ago as if someone here keeps throwing it in your face. You’re the only one talking about it… repeatedly… with nobody else commenting on what I can only assume they believe is someone muttering weird, off-topic stuff to themselves for no reason.
IIRC, the comment in that article from two months ago was that when GA took over only four (?) players could squat 500+ pounds, and now there were over 50 players who could do so.
The reason nobody really carried that water (even though you pretend everyone has done so relentlessly) is because even that’s not normal for an NCAA football team. It was a snapshot of how dilapidated the program had become, not a story setting hopeful expectations.
When you say “quickly” I assume you mean next season, right? Because he’s certainly not going to go out and find a top QB right now to come in and be the savior of this season. So yeah, he needs to put a very good QB in place next season. But I don’t want him to follow the Duck model and bring in one-year band aides. He needs someone who will lead this team for 3-4 years. Maybe Conor Blount is that guy. Maybe he gets more playing time this year and ends coming out of training camp next year as the clear starter. The big question is what are they going to do this year? The O-line is bad, so if GA has any thoughts of the future with Blount, does GA play him a bunch more this year and risk getting him hurt, or does he save him for next year and remain loyal to his commitment to Garretson?
A big QB recruit wouldn’t do anything for the program at this point. You think some inexperienced true freshman out there running for his life is going to make a difference?
This team needs juco offensive line bodies, quality ones. Everything else would fall into place.
They need both.
Moran was a pretty big recruit. Get a few more guys like that and you’re looking good.
I don’t trust GA with QB evaluation or development
Okay they should have ran more and should have ran more with Pierce. But I’ll take this coaching staff over a Riley staff any day. Riley would have stuck with Garretson on one leg and there would have been no adjustments at halftime. Give GA time. He will improve this team.
Yes give this staff time and the program will turn around. That being said how much time? I’m almost to the point where I think year 5 will be the breakthrough year. GA has a serious problem with the quarter back issue. Blunt did look good but it was the run game that set up his success. How many years does garretson have left? Maybe the answer is Blount but his sample size is so small, I don’t know. Hell maybe they should throw him into the fire and leave him there.It’s not like they have an easy w left on the schedule. Invest in the future of the program.
After Nall’s breakout game last year, the next game featured…practically no Nall.
In this game, Nall and Pierce opened the second half with surprising success. So, you guessed it, practically no run game in the fourth quarter.
Blount does an inspiring job coming seemingly out of nowhere to spark the team, smooth in handoffs and throwing some just plain pretty passes. So, say it with me…no quarterback controversy, according to GA, no, no. He’ll go back to second or third string as soon as it can be arranged.
Odd pattern here. I think GA has gone far enough coasting on being not-Riley. I really am wondering about the coaching decisions here.
There was no excuse for the level of unpreparedness we saw in the first half of this one.
My view is that right now this team would be best off getting under center and running an I formation offense with a vertical passing game based around play action.
I know this isn’t what Anderson wants to do but that is the best use of the talent on the roster.
Nall is better running right at the defense, a power running game is easier for a line to block for, and a vertical passing game would be a better fit for virtually every receiver on the roster. Collins is the only receiver that fits a short passing game heavy offense but he could also handle going deeper.
If I were in charge that is what I’d spend the week doing. Sometimes you gotta do what fits your talent till you get the talent to fit your system.
Despite that statement I have not given up on Anderson and like him. I think much like Mike MacIntyre at Colorado this is a full on rebuild that will take time. I liked MacIntyre from the moment I first saw a Colorado coached game and knew he’d turn that program around. I feel similar about Anderson but think Anderson could get more out of the current roster with some tweaks.
I don’t know. I have been a high school coach for 15 years almost exclusively working on the offensive side of the ball. And it that role you get used to having to adjust to the players you get. I think Anderson has a system he wants to implement and if I were guessing I would guess he probably thinks that in order to recruit guys to fit that system he needs to be running it on Saturdays. Its a tough position I’ve never experienced but that’d be my guess.
And frankly, he might be correct. If you want a spread QB but are running a power I; that kid might question why he’d go to OSU.
I think Anderson wants to win (obviously) but thinking he might be looking at the bigger picture whereas us fans and bloggers don’t have to do that.
The thing I’m not sure about is this: can the OL open the holes necessary to have a running game? Right now I’m thinking they can’t and won’t be able to this season. For the most part the starters are what would be the 2nd and 3rd stringers if the kids who’ve left the team (medical issues, etc.) were still playing.
I think they’d have a better chance in a straight ahead power running game, yes. Not saying they’d be great but Nall is not a cut back runner and a zone blocking scheme requires a runner to cutback far more often. I think a man blocking scheme would make the line look better.
A power run scheme could also help the passing game by creating more effective play action opportunities to slow down the pass rush which can also help the line.
I hope you’re right youngorst. I hope you’re right. The images that are burned into my brain are the other team’s DL in our backfield and/or our RB reaching the LOS and there being no hole for them to go through. Thus the argument for the RB’s having to be able to make cuts. Which, yet again, makes me think Nall would be of more use to the team at another position.
The coaches better get on it and come up with strategies to keep that running game going….I think we can all agree that this particular team should be run first, it is their strength….go with it until the opposing stops it. The play calling has me worried too, but I would hope that we don’t see this type of play calling in the future now that the coaches have game tape to solve what they missed during the game.
We need a key upset win (Oregon), and a Cal/WSU win to get anything out of this season.
I hope nobody thought Garrettson was going to be a savior. He was a servicable mid-major QB (you have to consider some of the competition he had in the Mountain West). He transferred because he was going to be Kent Myers back up. He is an upgrade over what the Beavs had last year, but that doesn’t mean he is anywhere near consistent P-12 level. Beavs still need a QB, maybe Blount? Who knows at this point?
I think it might be bad for morale to bail on team captain Garretson this quickly.
It won’t be surprise if Beavs don’t win again this season. There will be plenty of opprtunities for Blount to get PT and male a stronger case for himself.
Critical to keep team together as losses pike up, and critical to recruit with little to sale at this point other than a new locker room and early PT.
Where does this leave Moran? I’d like to know the logic re playing Blount instead of burning Moran’s red shirt.
Is Blount better than Moran or is Blount the sacrificial lamb? Since the OL is being populated mostly by what should be 2nd or 3rd stringers whoever we put in at QB will more than likely be maimed before the season is over so we’ll put in Blount and thus not risk Moran getting injured. I’m not saying that was the thought process but I have to wonder if something like that is going on.
I hope Gina will do a piece on the Blount/Baldwin connection. Why would a quarterback be met at the sidelines each time by someone who is not the quarterback coach?
I wonder if GA has set up (or has tacitly allowed) a sort of fiefdom among his coaches. They stake out their territories in whatever way they can, and he lets them go at it.
Might lead to some interesting possibilities down the line. But it also might be why GA is able to say (and the team proves on the field) that they have no offensive identity.
If identity is the problem, then it starts with GA (and not GA just saying that over and over), and the relationships he fosters among the coaching staff. Musical chairs hasn’t helped so far. This team has been playing as if there were no identity, and that’s something that needs to come consistently from the top down.
There’s something odd behind the curtain. I’d be interested in anyone else’s opinions about this.
We’re all looking in from the outside, but we can all see what’s on the field–and that says a lot about what’s behind the coaching curtain.
Best-case, they’ve been saving the good stuff for the Pac and what we’ve seen so far is all smoke and mirrors. We shall soon see.
But does anyone else have some thoughts on that interesting Blount/Baldwin relationship and what it might indicate in this staff?
Wasn’t McGiven up in the booth calling plays? My guess is Baldwin is by default, the on field version of our offensive coordinator, and he’s probably also in communication with McGiven throughout the game. I dont think TJ Woods would be the right guy to counsil the new QB within the game.
Imo the reason(s) we’re being told for taking Garrison out sound a bit…….. contrived.
“…“There were some things that were lingering from the (Idaho State) game,” McGiven said. “Darell had hurt his foot a little bit. There was nothing major — some nicks and bruises he was fighting through the week. We weren’t able to get him into a rhythm and get him comfortable with things until the end of the practice week because of those nagging injuries. He probably didn’t have the timing and the execution he needed to function as well as he could have in this game.” …”
Garretson couldn’t get into a “…rhythm and get him comfortable with things…” but a freshman who hadn’t practiced with the 1’s could?
I intended to include the bit about “….He probably didn’t have the timing and the execution he needed to function as well as he could have in this game….”
Reading between the lines, IMO, we’re being told that Garretson’s timing and execution sucked so they yanked him. Which again, IMO, may or may not be fixable. So we’re back, yet again, to having a freshman lead the team. Buckle up boys, it’s going to be a long year. Or should I have said an even longer year…..
In my opinion, a foot or leg injury that doesnt cause u to visibly limp should not affect your passing that much. If anything, it should affect ur scrambling. Yet, Blount threw for 138 yds versus Garretsons 53. He nearly tripled DG up. A difference that big cannot and should not be ignored by the coaches. If blount was in all game and threw for 275 yds, would we have won?
GA may not want to upset DG too much for now, but I dont think DGs job is very safe and it shouldnt be cosidering the performance…
I will check how many yds dg threw for against MN and ID.
You are reading my mind. That’s why I posted during the game when I saw Blount and Baldwin together so often.
I asked Gina in a comment on Olive if she’d look into this. She has, in the past and slowly, responded to prompting like this (see Wallace’s absence in Bend and Kearsley’s move to C) so I have some hope she will follow up. I don’t use twitter, if any degenerates here do, then it would not hurt to contact her and ask.
She often solicits (cue BG) questions for her weekly podcast, please ask there.
At this point we are left with speculation. I don’t believe Baldwin has a history with Blount prior to Corvallis. The simplest explanation may be that McGiven is upstairs and Woods has his own concerns, with GA so defensive oriented, someone had to work with the kid. Maybe?
Two other items: Garretson seemed to encourage Blount on the sideline, and, did anyone see Blount on the phone with McGiven?
EDIT: Meant as a response to blackhillsbeav above.
Coach A said after game that Garretson was unable to do some things (due to injury) like run. So I don’t think it was his passing as much as the game plan is for a running quarterback and Garretson was unable or unwilling to do that. So I think that was where they wanted the QB to run the ball or rollout and Garretson was not doing that.
I think I’d like it better if the QB coach was on the sidelines where he could talk one on one to the QB rather than being in the booth and coaching by phone.
Jahmal Wynter, the Georgia DL who visited this weekend tweeted about his visit and says “See you soon Beavernation”
If a guy from GA plans to see us soon, sounds like a good bet he will be a commit in the near future. Can’t imagine he’d be traveling back west for any other reason.
Haven’t heard anything. Nice that he was already an Andersen and coach Chad commit at Wisconsin. They must trust each other. Hope his grades are in order now. One of those guys that got away from GA at his last school
Lol I called that shit before the season, just didn’t know it would be that quick. And I got down voted. Well they made Orgeron the interm, made he’ll stick this time.
Those 10 win seasons are just terrible, I would love for our beavs to fire a coach for not getting into the playoff but posting a very successful record. Wonder who LSU is gonna go after.
MR of course.
While Miles had issues, he was a perfect fit for a goofy culture down there. They could end up like Tennessee when they canned Fulmer. Really sucking for a while. Be careful what you wish for.
It would be awesome if they hired Lame Kiffen. Saban vs Kiffen.
I would assume they make a run at the Houston coach.
If Houston gets into the Big 12, he may stay there. Much easier path to a championship and recruiting that can be done riding a Segway. Downside…..living in Houston.
They won’t get Herman, really nobody will with the money flowing through Houston right now. Big time oil company cash going to them. Briles on the other hand……he’s got nothing going on.
I think Garretson getting hit so many times really shook him. He just has not been making the same reads and going through his progressions. Now he really doesn’t have much time, but I think when Blount went in he often took that extra second for the next read or used his legs to buy an extra second. I would have like to see Lucas get the ball thrown his way more, maybe at least a screen or something. I also think the run game was hit and miss, I mean yeah they found success but only when down 31 to 7 in the second half. If you can’t get one yard on 4th and 1, why would they magically have been able to pound it up the middle all the other times? I do think they left the run too early in the first half after multiple short gains. Maybe the second half is enough of a turning point to come in and hit Colorado you may still be on the high beating the Ducks overlook the beavs
That’s more realistic, but hole fan is delusional and will fantasize about firing Simple Jack junior and hiring Les Miles mid season and going undefeated for the rest of eternity.
Eggers with a little more on Blount yesterday. McGiven was in communication via phone blount during the game. Also, very little said about McMaryion. Won’t be surprised to hear he wants to transfer out. Time to start recruiting another 2017 or JUCO QB.
The only concern I currently have about GA as AD is if he hires coaches like he hired assistants then……….. In other words, so far I’m not impressed the assistants who are in the foreground and you notice. Folks like Baldwin and possibly the QB/OC coach. But I keep telling myself I have to give them time before coming to a conclusion. But…..
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Good luck next Sunday! About that roster, if life gives you lemons, well, we’ll end up firing you, I’m not going to lie.
Anyone know for sure if Togiai qualifies for medical redshirt? I believe he does. We haven’t even started Pac-12 play yet. He actually provides one more piece in future seasons to look forward to. Today’s commit Fauatea says he is excited to play with Togiai which is cool.
Ducks just picked up a pretty big 2017 commitment, and the guy announced via a bleacher report movie spoof of Forest Gump.
You’re gonna fit right in buddy….
Porebsky will be getting nice punts off in Colorado this week with the altitude. Our defense will keep us in games this year, but we lack depth to keep the team fresh. I was quite impressed with Blount. He had 3 missed reads where we had guys wide open if he’d gone through his progressions; however, he certainly can throw a deep ball where only our guy can get it.
I’m glad to see our receivers(minus the ripped pick 6 off of SC) go up and get the balls. That was one thing that has been lacking the past 2 games.
Is Jake Cookus our main special teams coach? Would make sense why that squad seems sharper than previous years(except Bolden’s wild punt receptions in the first couple if games)
Georgia sucks ass. Questionable if they are even Top 40.
They’ll lose 6 spots and Ol’ Miss will jump to top 10.
1st?
Gotta be faster than that. :)
Now 45-0 Georgia getting their b*ttholes reamed. Colorado would have a legit chance to beat the Bullsh*tdogs.
Our boy “Bright” sounds a bit more realistic this week. This per the GT on the Bronco O’s tendency to present multiple looks:
“It looks like one thing but it’s always another,” Ugwoegbu said. “So we’re going to have to be sound in our keys and a lot of our technique.”
Bendbeaver your boiler makers are trying everything to lose their game.
Thanks oldbeav. Go beavs
This gonna be THAT kind of party?
I’ve been watching this csu Minnesota game to try and get a better feel for the beavs. No success idk what to think other than Minnesota isn’t blowing by their rt.
Any suckers are getting thrown in the moat! Today is a new day
Once again watching the Minnesota game and there was a targeting play reviewed and it was clearly helmet to helmet but wasn’t called despite replay clearly showing that it was. Wow! Minnesota dirty?
Today we dine in Hell. This one is for the right to live in the NW. We are taking this Victory and better dam sure seize every opportunity to defeat BSU. Bring bezerker energy and get the entire stadium into it from the very start.
They literally let anyone into the student section now. There is a big group is Boise college fans in one of the sections…
That’s b.s. i guess it’s up to u to clear them out. Lol. But seriously talk about a recipe for trouble. Next article boise fan is beat up (deservedly for being there and antagonizing ) charges to be pursued.
Snitches get stitches
Go Beavs!
GoBeavs!
Seeing former Beav QB Kyle Kempt playing for Iowa St. Glad he found a team to play for
Today’s combo is what I have been waiting for. Solid with a different color helmet. Also want to see the solid black with white helmets sometime this year.
Go Beavs. Ride these Broncos into the ground.
I love the orange helmets with the black uni’s.
Fucking ugly
Keep seeing more and more in state kids as visitors for today’s game. Pretty impressive collection, especially considering Oregon is playing at home today too. Let’s hope the Beavs and coaching staff put on a good show for them.
Go Beavs! Make a game of it! I don’t want to have turn it off after the 3rd quarter.
Someone needed to prop those locker room doors open as the team came out of them.
Looks like a pretty good crowd today.
Go Beavs
This tempo is gonna wear the Beavs down after 1 quarter. Can Boise keep it up (or will they need to?)
Broncos are smart. Counter the Beavs intensity with trick plays. That’ll take the wind out of their sails pretty quickly.
Stream?
Fs1 if you have a cable/satelite subs.
Beavs score just as quickly as Boise. Only 3 plays after big return from Bolden. Crowd is amped. 7-7
Fox Sports 1
Hurdle alert!
Nice opening drive with some great play-calling!
Oline play is a little better….knock on wood. Nall looks healthy.
TO Nall!!
Touchdown Nall!! Dang autocorrect
Black uniforms and white(?) sleeves? Ugh
Oline play is night and day compared to Minnesota. Is Kearsley at center right now?
Yes, Kearsley #75 at C
Great offensive answer! Nice to see Nall get his moxie back.
Finally some pressure on an fbs team.
Beavs hit Rypien, loose ball recovered by Bright on Boise 20
If a bronco gets injured, do the trainers come out on the field to put him down?
(of course I don’t want anyone to get injured, I’m just good at tasteless jokes)
Bronco D pushes Beavs backwards. Field goal missed by owens
Poor play calls on that series. Need to go back to the quick throws
Or straight runs.
Yes that too
Please no more reverses with Bolden or any other plays that have a high risk of going backwards for that matter
Don’t ever give Bolden the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
That right there is the difference between good teams and mediocre teams. Good teams capitalize on tun overs in the opponent’s territory.
We’re not good yet
Are we even mediocre?
Rypien mostly able to pass to whoever he wants. Plus mobile enough to pick up 1st down on his feet. He’s pretty good
Defense needs to hold at some point if they want a chance to win
Need to give the call to Lucas instead of bolden on offense.
Or Collins.
Hell I’d send Aydon on a sweep before Bolden.
I really hope the coaches aren’t going to try and force it to Bolden again after that kick-off return…
Well, we got through our scripted first drive, now we’re back to normal.
Why the short shovel pass to a guy surrounded by 3 broncos?
at least we got a stop. I was starting to get the razor blades and warm bath ready. (j/k, but it gives me a little hope at least)
Need to switch it up with Pierce or Cook
Nice coverage on the punt
I hate our Off. Coordinators
Yeah, the offense is not efficient and a lot of it lies on the OCs.
First downs: 10 to 4. Beavs 0-3 on 3rd downs. Score could be a lot worse, if we’re looking for positives.
Nall looks scared.
Great opening drive, then everything on offense goes to shit. That seems to be a trend from last season.
Broncos blocking is so good. It’s almost like they practice it.
Another turnover by Boise, need to take advantage, for a change
Our boy Bright!!
Got to get points out of this now.
Boise State is semi-imploding.
Neep to spread the field.
I have a theory. Langsdorf is hacking into our headsets when our Off. Coordinators are making calls but it’s static-y and so it’s half his retarded plays and half ours.
Good. Nice deep ball with no purpose. They would have never seen that coming.
Has Garretson thrown an accurate deep ball this year?
No.
Yeah, I couldn’t recall one.
yes, the one to Bolden in the endzone. only one that comes to mind though
Oh, you’re right. Go Garretson.
The turnovers mean nothing if they can’t turn them into points.
2 turnovers won and zero points to show for it. My God, our offense is bad.
False Start Fred
Missed block fred and brandon
They say if you have two QBs, you really have none. The same apparently applies to OCs.
I feel like the offense should just run the first drive script for the whole game, because it seems like that’s the only set of plays they practice.
The route is on…..20-7
All that weight lifting did nothing. Getting pushed around all game.
I’m more concerned about the D and the non ability to stop the run. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Oregon St currently does not have the personnel to run a 3-4 scheme.
I’m not sure they have the numbers/talent to run a 4-3.
All Boise State did was run the exact same play, and they scored again.
They should keep running it until beavs figure out how to stop it
285 yards for Boise vs 60 for OSU.
well at least I will have time to go visit my dad in the hospital today. :(
really? a down vote? lol
Finally Nall with good power, and Kearsley with nice push to lead way
Better find a right tackle, anyone would be better
Called that sack when they lined up.
No more sideways plays ever again, please.
Porebski best player today
This offense is a steaming pile of turds sitting in a pile of vomit at the bottom of a port-a-pot next to a 50 cent taco stand
Now that was one hell of an impressive offensive series. NOT!!!
Play calling is atrocious.
1.1 yards per rush. That sums up our offensive line.
I’d believe negative 1.1 yards per rush
Harsin > Andersen
I’d say Harsin’s team is > Andersen’s team but not Harsin > Andersen.
Let’s not forget Harsin took over a winning team from Chris Petersen. Andersen took over Biley’s steaming pile.
Granted that excuse won’t fly forever.
Harsin/peterson recruiting>> Andersen/Riley
and
Harsin play calling > ? Play calling
Beavers Offensive line is < Boise state offensive/defensive line. We have had no push, no protection, and they can't sustain blocks
But they can all squat 500 plus. What’s the problem?
Defense wants to go home.
Crowd wants to go home
Note to OSU: Never, EVER schedule Boise State again. I don’t care if they were 0-12 the season before, there’s just no reason to risk it.
Boise community college looking sharp
This is fine
This game is making me drool more than China Buffet on 9th
That place is almost as bad as Kowloon’s down here… and that’s really bad.
The floating restaurants in Kowloon a really good.
Geeez I hate listening to Parker. The only good thing about it is the radio is ahead of the TV so I know what to look for.
Damn, not even going to make it to the 3rd quarter. Off to mow the lawn and some other productive stuff.
Come on, D, I know the offense isn’t doing you any favors, but show some pride
NICE tackle Bright
435 yards to 67? Sweet geebus
Ugh
The defense is actually doing a good enough job. Problem is, the offense is so putrid the defense has no time to rest, and they’re getting worn down as a result.
Time of possession: Beavs 15:21, Broncs 14:39.
Didn’t seem that way to me either.
We netted about 7 yards in the 2nd quarter
Not a good look for recruiting. GA not showing us anything.
Let me guess….. You’re setting there naked at your computer and playing with yourself as you come up with posts like that.
What’s wrong with naked? I like naked.
I also like suede.
Yeah probably the worst possible game to have this many kids visiting.
Clearly this dismal performance is because Stansbury left. How do you expect them to play with heart, when their hearts are obviously crushed?
Go ducks – er I mean huskers – uh I mean beavs! #toldya #suckitcowvallis
Out coached in every phase of the game. Offensive play calling is worse than ever.
You can call any play you want and it won’t matter if the other team runs right through the line every time.
Stanton with another craptastic game. That poor kid is just getting demolished week after week. Its time to replace him or put someone else on that side to help, and go to power and forget trying to spread teams out.
Yeah fuck it, line up all the fatties and see if you can go power.
Boise only a 6 pt. favorite for the second half, all my chips are in.
I had hopes for growth today.
I have to admit I’m a bit surprised at how totally crappy the Beavs look.
I seriously doubt we will win another game.
Looks like a replay of most of my games. Things haven’t changed much.
Our best offense has been when we run right at them, Nall had a 14 yd run and Pearce an 8 yd. run. But we try and run wide and Boise St penetration kills us. We are trying to be too cute. Nall has only carried it 5 times and Pearce once.
So True
Knew this game was over when the Beavs got the 1st turnover and then ran that awful trick play backwards. Gotta run up the gut there and score a TD. Instead they run backwards and miss a FG. Game over.
Good teams convert that into a TD. Bad teams do what the Beavs did. Garrettson isn’t impressive at all.
I won’t judge Garrettson unless he actually has a line protecting him. Nothing he can do.
Spot on Angry. We were on the 21 yard line and went 7 yards backwards on 1st play instead of a pounding run forwards to amp up the pressure on Boise.
This walkon looks much better than Garrettson so far.
Leads a TD drive on his 2nd possession, throws a nice ball…
Then again, Mitchell looked good early on last year. Still, pretty interesting.
Our walkon qb Blount is starting q3
Are you serious? I changed the channel.
I guess we figured our scout team has better offense, since it mimmicked Boise St all week
A walk on freshman qb?
Baldwin was a better OC than these two guys.
Too bad GA has impatience and nepotism and gave the job to an in-law, after just one season with really bad personnel and Collins at QB.
Looked like Baldwin was first to visit with Blount when he came off the field.
The Beavs have 20 coaches at each position. I guess GA is a Mormon after all.
If we’re starting a walk on an to start the 3rd qtr, is there a walk on play caller anywhere one sideline to replace who ever the fuck is calling plays?
See: http://angrybeavs.com/football/12333
This is an awful game. Boise doesn’t even look very good.
It’s going to be a 1 win season.
I never thought our coaching could get worse but this is showing me how unprepared this Beaver team is.This coaching staff is questionable at best.
GA has lost his marbles. Move reeks of desperation. Is this the best these coaches can do?
Have the guys lift more weights
Almost everytime we run right at them we get good yardage. Why try and be cute.
That’s right. Blount looking better than Garretson and main reason is because we are running the football straight ahead. This should be 60% of our play calls. Recruit some good O-linemen that are specialists in run blocking. Then incorporate some play action off that.
So…anyone excited for basketball season?
I’ll come out of retirement and coach the rest of the year for $25.00
Our coaches finally figured out that if you run the ball straight ahead it works vs. BSU. To bad it took so long.
This walkon looks much better than Garrettson so far.
Leads a TD drive on his 2nd possession, throws a nice ball…
Then again, Mitchell looked good early on last year. Still, pretty interesting.
Sorry, had to double post, forgot my password.
QB looked better because of the run game
Better play calling, power game, leads to td
It’s frustrating that no matter the coaching staff, bloggers and fans can call a better game. Maybe these guys are too close to see the obvious.
I wouldn’t quite say bloggers and fans call a better game, but I would say that whoever was calling the offensive play was vastly overthinking things. Sometimes, you just need to pound it down the middle.
Just flipped back over to see Nall score right up the middle. Is that what the whole drive looked like?
The Terrace looks pretty good on TV today.
Yes, we ran straight at them and mixed in short passes and drove the field
Let’s go Blount! Keep running straight at ’em.
Beavs get the onside kick and only get 3.
Bad play calling again. BSU has not stopped us running up the middle, why throw deep. Smash mouth 4 straight and punch it down the field.
Bush’s fault.
And you’re a racist.
Hitler
The end
What does Hitler have to do with Reggie Bush?
Hitler/Reggie Bush? Both squirreled away ill gotten gains?
Both have vacationed in South America?
That substitution certainly lit a fire under the team.
BSU has committed nearly twice as many penalties as the Beavs.
EDIT: Ooops, BSU 5 for 50, Beavs 4 for 35
There should have been a flag on that series they scored on the shovel pass. The shovel pass before the score hit a lineman.
shovel or shuttle? which do you call it? BTN= Booth Tension Network
I think it looks like Blount is the reason we are looking better on offense but I believe it;s because we started running the football straight at them instead of wide and that has been very effective.
Just tuned in and saw a mystery QB lead a TD drive and a successful onside.
WTF happened in the 1st half?
Don’t want to see Bolden injured, but if it means less of a chance of him dropping another pass, it might be a blessing in disguise.
Short on 4th down. Boise is going to dagger us now.
Or not, Bright with a nice sack.
Geez, what a 3rd quarter
Bright with the SACK
That was a really nice move and long wing span to finish it.
Is that the first sack of the year?
There were a few earlier in the game, so no.
Glad to see the backup QB has lit a fire under the team’s butt.
So apparently Blount sniped McMaryion for 2nd string? I’m assuming we’re still trying to preserve Moran’s redshirt.
Who’s the scout team QB? Moran or Blount?
Back to that 4th down, I would have liked to see the fake to Nall and the QB run. This guy seems to move fine and Boise was clearly selling out on the run. QB run or play action was the call there. Nall up the middle was okay (not an awful call), but once you see Boise stack the line it makes the odds of getting the 1st somewhere else go up.
Agree Angry, I don;t know what our coaches look at.
Trevon Bradford sighting. About time
Read shirts all get burned today
Wow, good composure and throw-catch
Who the fuck is Connor blount?
LaGarretts younger brother.
Then watch out for the suckered punch at the end of the game.
Boise is setup for a trick play with Collins.
Give him a run/pass option for a big play.
Nevermind, drop back and the QB fumbles instead…
Getting cute and reverting back to what didn’t work in the first half.
Run the fucking ball.
Time is running out, and they were setup/selling out on the run.
Stanton should be a matador.
Here we go again, terrible play calling. Do these coaches not realize that running straight ahead has been working. Why now are we trying to be something we aren’t.
I want to help the coaches out.
Call a screen pass, shovel pass, or draw.
Blount showing some real moxie recovering his own fumble.
Getting a little too pass focused and cute again. Have to maintain straight ahead runs with Pierce and Nall so down and distance is workable.
Yup, save the long pass for 2nd and 2.
It’s the 4th quarter. Running out the clock isn’t a good strategy.
Another Baldwin sighting with Blount
GROUNDING!!!!!
Yep
Kendel hill deflected that ball, nice play
rUN THE BALL!!!!
Anyone else think our DB play is vastly improved?
Which halftime score will be worse? Beavers or Ducks? Oregon down 23-7 early in 2nd
Damn, I originally picked CU in the weekly picks then edited it.
Same here, long way to go.
WHY!!!!!!!
Blount’s 15 minutes have come to an end.
OR not, beautiful throw to Collins
Wow that was a beautiful pass.
Sure was. Best throw we’ve see since Mannion/Cooks left.
This Blount dude looks much more mobile than the other QBs.
He’s better at running for his life then the others.
Might as well go for it.
Blount looks more accurate than DG and way better throwing deep. DG showed generally better judgment and pocket presence.
Not NOW
Might as well go for it.
Why have we totally given up on the run? It is what got us back in this game. Our play calling is like their is only 2 minutes left in game.
The OL still looks like it’s comprised of 2nd and 3rd stringers. Which for the most part it is.
Made a good decision to throw out of bounds, good vision, not bad touch, moxie, imagine what he could do with some work with the ones
At least were good at punting…….
RUN THE DAMN BALL
Eh, can’t keep relying on the D to hold up. Eventually they will wear down. Clock running out. Dislike the punt there.
Nice kick, though.
The coaches need to tell him to run and slide when there’s that much green in front of him.
Per radio, Baldwin talking to Blount, you read it here first!
Baldwin deserves another shot. Felt people got on him last year when the problem was Collins…he would have tied the hands of any OC. Baldwin’s offenses are historically great.
Hm, what was I saying about the D not being able to hold up? Shouldn’t have punted.
OT ND goes down to Duke
Little humility for Seth the Great
Ref with the pick
Thanks
Collins should have hurdled him.
I feel the same way I felt with our old coaching staff. We were totally out coached in this game. We played a good 3rd qtr by running the football and our staff decided to be cute and it cost us. Blount did a good job, but his success was because of the running game. Our play calling in the 4th qtr. was horrible, they went away from what was working and called plays like we were in 2 minute offense. This was a game we could have won with better coaching.
Riley would have only stuck to the run in one series then abandoned it.
Bronco’s are gonna remember the name Blount…..for more than one reason/more than one season/more than one team from the state of Oregon.
I had Boise winning 38-17 in my weekly picks, but Bolden had to fuck it up with that runback…..
O line isn’t good enough to wait for plays to develop for passing plays. OC should call mainly run plays. Quick throws. Bootlegs. Then MAYBE Play action after we’ve established the run. Just boggles my mind. I hope GA addresses this. Cause this was just poorly called.
This exactly. I don’t give a shit that it was the 4th quarter, run the fucking ball and keep the chains moving.
Beavr4evr, get a grip. They made it a game in the 2nd half
Some see the glass as half full. Some just see tartan.
Half empty or half full Jack — the important thing is that it’s refillable.
OK all you analysts, what changes did ya see in the Beavs D in the second half; what changes in the Bronco O?
I don’t know but they made adjustments and it worked for the most part.
3rd quarter was good with plenty of straight at them runs. Lost their way again in the 4th.
Buffs up 33-17, and without starting QB Sefo Lufao (sp?)
Fear the Buffs?
I started the preseason thinking the Beavs could whip the Buffs, not so much now! Wow, didn’t expect them to do well w/o their first string QB.
LOL. Nebraska RB runs 60 yards and fumbles out of the end zone trying to extend the ball.
Touchback!
Flashbacks to Beavs vs Stanford years ago…
This might be the worst Oregon defense they’ve had. Previous years, they at least had the speed to contain the edges in the running game. Can’t even stop that anymore.
Fred Flinstone as DC was not a good plan.
Better than Pinky.
Good thing they don’t have a brain
Couple comments by GA post game:
-some young guys on D stepped up in 2nd half (not sure I can ID them).
-Garrett was not 100% during the week, left open the possibility of a two QB system.
Nall made it clear that Blount had practiced as the backup during the week. With the limited time the local scribes are allowed to watch practice, his appearance was a big surprise; what a difference from the last staff and their open practices.
Here comes oregon……..colorado can’t finish games it looks like.
Colorado learned how to finish. …….lolololol
Just finished…..INT in the end zone .
Don’t wear Orange quackers.
Hopefully one day our coach can cry like a bitch over a win.
Cry like a bitch?
That’s a dumb idiom. A double negative is that it reminds me of a Pudsmack song.
So… thanks for that.
Nebraska RB stripped of the ball at the goal line. Touchback……………. again. LOL.
Perfectly happy to be wrong about that game! Go Buffs!
Good for the buffs, but not a fan of their coach preaching postgame with more God references than a priest on Sunday. Maybe Notre Dame should hire him.
dux fans will be after helfrich’s head.
So the buffs look good in their 4th year under MacIntyre. Is GA given that kind of time?
Yes.
That’s what I think also.
Any body just see LSU win…………then lose on the replay?
It was bad enough the Ducks copied our colors, but copying our football team’s play calling is a new low.
Final thoughts on the game:
1) Need to score on two of the turnovers.
2) Run the ball Anderson!
3) If passing; needed more rollouts and screen passes.
So hole fan wants to lynch Helfrich. I’d imagine he’ll get the rest of the season at least.
Art Briles to hole next year?
I wonder if that sexual assault deal the pac12 past last spring, works for coaches?
On second thought, the ducks are into incestuous nepotism. Hoke will be the next guy……..they just can’t help themselves.
Didn’t look like we had our “Big boy pants” on.
Or maybe Boise State brought their A-game… You know, like every other FBS team that’s come into Reser lately.
WE STRAIAIAIAIAIGHT DOAAWWG SHIT … WE HAVE NO FUTURE
Well at least you beat Oregon State at football this weekend. So there’s that.
Hope you feel better soon.
Leghumpers-wildcats is a good game tonight.
Oregonian post game story which contains a 3:47 minute clip of Andersen talking to the press.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/09/walk-on_freshman_conor_blount.html
Blount in because Garretson’s leg injury. Until entering the game Blount had never practiced with the ones. In other words he did as well as he did without the benefit of “playing catch” with the receivers he was throwing to. Imo that makes his performance even more impressive.
So he never had practiced with the 1’s, and even though McMaryion had, we went with the least experienced guy? This move just seems more like a knee jerk message to the team to shake things up and light a fire under the ass of the usual #1’s. If they knew Garretson was gimpy enough to have Blount practice a little with the 2’s, why not have him take some pracrice reps with the 1’s to prepare for this circumstance?
Wonder how long till McMaryion transfers out too?
Maybe it’s not a big loss if he goes, but at some point it would be nice to have a qb last more than 1-2 seasons.
Bad personnel management in my opinion…
I’m not so sure it’s bad management. It is certainly a clear message to all the guys not playing that they can be given a chance and to all the starters that their job is not locked up. It was definitely a wake-up call. The other half of this experiment has yet to reveal itself; how do guys respond? Maybe the answer to that question is the important bit.
I’m just saying, it’s bad management from the standpoint of wanting to put your team in the best position to win. Blount maybe should have practiced with the 1’s at least a little in practice, for his benefit and the benefit of the other guys playing with him. Having their 1st snaps together happen in a live game seems almost like a public shaming.
Yes, the response of the team is the bottom line. I’d have thought any complacent players would already have gotten the message. You make a good point about the encouragement this kind of move may give to guys further down the depth chart.
GA is giving all of us a continuing look at the hard ass (read: serious) management which was missing for so long. This move to send a message to #1’s that they have to perform to keep their jobs follows the departure over the last year of several SA’s who saw the writing on the wall. And in a radio interview this week GA made it clear that if guys want to leave “we’ve got a piece of paper that makes that really easy”.
Seems to me that (SO FAR) the majority of the players are responding well to GA’s serious approach; I don’t see apathy on the sidelines anything like was so obvious with the previous staff. Gotta wonder how long these guys will continue to fight. As GA recently said, he has been through these rebuilds before but these players have not.
This group badly needs a couple conference wins…… Cal? WSU? Zona? Nike?
Didn’t play “big time football” in the first half? Didn’t watch due to prolonged beer drinking after the game here in MPLS. What happened?
I’m not a psychologist and I don’t play one on TV either. But, it seems like going into the Colorado game, we are looking at a (best case?) scenario where the Beavs got their collective arses kicked in the first half but played hard in the second while the Buffs are on an extreme high beating UO. My hope here is that CU falls flat and the Beavs show a little pride.
On a side note, I think that after all the punts the Beavs have made, they have still given up 0 yards on returns. That’s a pretty ridiculous stat.
Yup…. Special teams has been a quiet positive….that good coverage, onside kick, Bolden return and 40 yard field goal was exactly what they needed to give them confidence in their game. I don’t expect those things every game, but things are looking bright for the STs.
Imagine how super great they would be if we had a dedicated ST coach.
My recap of the game –
1. BSU was just plain faster and stronger. All the weightlifting stories from the offseason were just puff pieces.
2. WIth Blount playing, that’s 5 QBs in two years for GA. Not a good sign.
3. Nall is slow to the edges. Best runs were up the middle.
4. Defense sucks. Were beat to the edge many many times.
5. 2 turnovers, zero points. Terrible.
6. Oline needs to step it up if the Beavs are going to win any conference games.
All what weightlifting stories? You’ve been going off on a comment in an article from two months ago as if someone here keeps throwing it in your face. You’re the only one talking about it… repeatedly… with nobody else commenting on what I can only assume they believe is someone muttering weird, off-topic stuff to themselves for no reason.
The rest is just no-brainer stuff.
IIRC, the comment in that article from two months ago was that when GA took over only four (?) players could squat 500+ pounds, and now there were over 50 players who could do so.
The reason nobody really carried that water (even though you pretend everyone has done so relentlessly) is because even that’s not normal for an NCAA football team. It was a snapshot of how dilapidated the program had become, not a story setting hopeful expectations.
It’s very clear that GA needs to get a top QB to turn things around quickly.
When you say “quickly” I assume you mean next season, right? Because he’s certainly not going to go out and find a top QB right now to come in and be the savior of this season. So yeah, he needs to put a very good QB in place next season. But I don’t want him to follow the Duck model and bring in one-year band aides. He needs someone who will lead this team for 3-4 years. Maybe Conor Blount is that guy. Maybe he gets more playing time this year and ends coming out of training camp next year as the clear starter. The big question is what are they going to do this year? The O-line is bad, so if GA has any thoughts of the future with Blount, does GA play him a bunch more this year and risk getting him hurt, or does he save him for next year and remain loyal to his commitment to Garretson?
A big QB recruit wouldn’t do anything for the program at this point. You think some inexperienced true freshman out there running for his life is going to make a difference?
This team needs juco offensive line bodies, quality ones. Everything else would fall into place.
They need both.
Moran was a pretty big recruit. Get a few more guys like that and you’re looking good.
I don’t trust GA with QB evaluation or development
Okay they should have ran more and should have ran more with Pierce. But I’ll take this coaching staff over a Riley staff any day. Riley would have stuck with Garretson on one leg and there would have been no adjustments at halftime. Give GA time. He will improve this team.
CASEY FOR AD!
Yes give this staff time and the program will turn around. That being said how much time? I’m almost to the point where I think year 5 will be the breakthrough year. GA has a serious problem with the quarter back issue. Blunt did look good but it was the run game that set up his success. How many years does garretson have left? Maybe the answer is Blount but his sample size is so small, I don’t know. Hell maybe they should throw him into the fire and leave him there.It’s not like they have an easy w left on the schedule. Invest in the future of the program.
After Nall’s breakout game last year, the next game featured…practically no Nall.
In this game, Nall and Pierce opened the second half with surprising success. So, you guessed it, practically no run game in the fourth quarter.
Blount does an inspiring job coming seemingly out of nowhere to spark the team, smooth in handoffs and throwing some just plain pretty passes. So, say it with me…no quarterback controversy, according to GA, no, no. He’ll go back to second or third string as soon as it can be arranged.
Odd pattern here. I think GA has gone far enough coasting on being not-Riley. I really am wondering about the coaching decisions here.
There was no excuse for the level of unpreparedness we saw in the first half of this one.
My view is that right now this team would be best off getting under center and running an I formation offense with a vertical passing game based around play action.
I know this isn’t what Anderson wants to do but that is the best use of the talent on the roster.
Nall is better running right at the defense, a power running game is easier for a line to block for, and a vertical passing game would be a better fit for virtually every receiver on the roster. Collins is the only receiver that fits a short passing game heavy offense but he could also handle going deeper.
If I were in charge that is what I’d spend the week doing. Sometimes you gotta do what fits your talent till you get the talent to fit your system.
Despite that statement I have not given up on Anderson and like him. I think much like Mike MacIntyre at Colorado this is a full on rebuild that will take time. I liked MacIntyre from the moment I first saw a Colorado coached game and knew he’d turn that program around. I feel similar about Anderson but think Anderson could get more out of the current roster with some tweaks.
I think angry said it above, “why is it that fans and bloggers can see problems overlooked by coaches”.
Why aren’t Nall and Pierce used more? Especially between the tackles? Off tackle and fly work better if they are the exception rather than the rule.
Nothing wrong with dink n dunk slants.
Is GA too detached from the O?……….Seems so.
I don’t know. I have been a high school coach for 15 years almost exclusively working on the offensive side of the ball. And it that role you get used to having to adjust to the players you get. I think Anderson has a system he wants to implement and if I were guessing I would guess he probably thinks that in order to recruit guys to fit that system he needs to be running it on Saturdays. Its a tough position I’ve never experienced but that’d be my guess.
And frankly, he might be correct. If you want a spread QB but are running a power I; that kid might question why he’d go to OSU.
I think Anderson wants to win (obviously) but thinking he might be looking at the bigger picture whereas us fans and bloggers don’t have to do that.
The thing I’m not sure about is this: can the OL open the holes necessary to have a running game? Right now I’m thinking they can’t and won’t be able to this season. For the most part the starters are what would be the 2nd and 3rd stringers if the kids who’ve left the team (medical issues, etc.) were still playing.
I think they’d have a better chance in a straight ahead power running game, yes. Not saying they’d be great but Nall is not a cut back runner and a zone blocking scheme requires a runner to cutback far more often. I think a man blocking scheme would make the line look better.
A power run scheme could also help the passing game by creating more effective play action opportunities to slow down the pass rush which can also help the line.
I hope you’re right youngorst. I hope you’re right. The images that are burned into my brain are the other team’s DL in our backfield and/or our RB reaching the LOS and there being no hole for them to go through. Thus the argument for the RB’s having to be able to make cuts. Which, yet again, makes me think Nall would be of more use to the team at another position.
The coaches better get on it and come up with strategies to keep that running game going….I think we can all agree that this particular team should be run first, it is their strength….go with it until the opposing stops it. The play calling has me worried too, but I would hope that we don’t see this type of play calling in the future now that the coaches have game tape to solve what they missed during the game.
We need a key upset win (Oregon), and a Cal/WSU win to get anything out of this season.
Beating the quacks isn’t an upset…although most will think so.
So you expect a win?
I hope nobody thought Garrettson was going to be a savior. He was a servicable mid-major QB (you have to consider some of the competition he had in the Mountain West). He transferred because he was going to be Kent Myers back up. He is an upgrade over what the Beavs had last year, but that doesn’t mean he is anywhere near consistent P-12 level. Beavs still need a QB, maybe Blount? Who knows at this point?
I think it might be bad for morale to bail on team captain Garretson this quickly.
It won’t be surprise if Beavs don’t win again this season. There will be plenty of opprtunities for Blount to get PT and male a stronger case for himself.
Critical to keep team together as losses pike up, and critical to recruit with little to sale at this point other than a new locker room and early PT.
BTW – How was the terrace?
Where does this leave Moran? I’d like to know the logic re playing Blount instead of burning Moran’s red shirt.
Is Blount better than Moran or is Blount the sacrificial lamb? Since the OL is being populated mostly by what should be 2nd or 3rd stringers whoever we put in at QB will more than likely be maimed before the season is over so we’ll put in Blount and thus not risk Moran getting injured. I’m not saying that was the thought process but I have to wonder if something like that is going on.
I think they really want to redshirt Moran and its as simple as that.
And I 100% agree with that
McGiven said as much (about redshirting Moran) to Eggers. Apparently we have a “Malcom” Moran on the team. Maybe he’s the savior?
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/324500-204125-beavers-get-glimmer-of-hope-in-second-half
I would imagine he’s a last resort with his redshirt and all.
Yeah there is no reason to burn Moran’s redshirt as long as Blount and McMariyon are on the team.
On special teams, our long snapper was great yesterday. He was first to the ball carrier on more than one occasion in punt coverage.
I hope Gina will do a piece on the Blount/Baldwin connection. Why would a quarterback be met at the sidelines each time by someone who is not the quarterback coach?
I wonder if GA has set up (or has tacitly allowed) a sort of fiefdom among his coaches. They stake out their territories in whatever way they can, and he lets them go at it.
Might lead to some interesting possibilities down the line. But it also might be why GA is able to say (and the team proves on the field) that they have no offensive identity.
If identity is the problem, then it starts with GA (and not GA just saying that over and over), and the relationships he fosters among the coaching staff. Musical chairs hasn’t helped so far. This team has been playing as if there were no identity, and that’s something that needs to come consistently from the top down.
There’s something odd behind the curtain. I’d be interested in anyone else’s opinions about this.
We’re all looking in from the outside, but we can all see what’s on the field–and that says a lot about what’s behind the coaching curtain.
Best-case, they’ve been saving the good stuff for the Pac and what we’ve seen so far is all smoke and mirrors. We shall soon see.
But does anyone else have some thoughts on that interesting Blount/Baldwin relationship and what it might indicate in this staff?
Wasn’t McGiven up in the booth calling plays? My guess is Baldwin is by default, the on field version of our offensive coordinator, and he’s probably also in communication with McGiven throughout the game. I dont think TJ Woods would be the right guy to counsil the new QB within the game.
McGiven in the booth, TJ has to be talking to the oline, that leaves Baldwin to relay the messages from Mcgiven. Pretty simple.
But…it’s so much more interesting if we can imagine a conspiracy or something…
It could help pass the time until we win a game..
Conspiracy? Naaaa My guess is Baldwin was just telling the kid about the “benefits” derived from consuming 18 diet cokes a day.
“Red bull is for pussies kid, you need a tall smooth diet coke”
Imo the reason(s) we’re being told for taking Garrison out sound a bit…….. contrived.
“…“There were some things that were lingering from the (Idaho State) game,” McGiven said. “Darell had hurt his foot a little bit. There was nothing major — some nicks and bruises he was fighting through the week. We weren’t able to get him into a rhythm and get him comfortable with things until the end of the practice week because of those nagging injuries. He probably didn’t have the timing and the execution he needed to function as well as he could have in this game.” …”
Garretson couldn’t get into a “…rhythm and get him comfortable with things…” but a freshman who hadn’t practiced with the 1’s could?
Uhhhhh
I intended to include the bit about “….He probably didn’t have the timing and the execution he needed to function as well as he could have in this game….”
Yet our backup never found time to throw with the 1’s?
Reading between the lines, IMO, we’re being told that Garretson’s timing and execution sucked so they yanked him. Which again, IMO, may or may not be fixable. So we’re back, yet again, to having a freshman lead the team. Buckle up boys, it’s going to be a long year. Or should I have said an even longer year…..
Coach….can’t get into rhythm with that O line.
In my opinion, a foot or leg injury that doesnt cause u to visibly limp should not affect your passing that much. If anything, it should affect ur scrambling. Yet, Blount threw for 138 yds versus Garretsons 53. He nearly tripled DG up. A difference that big cannot and should not be ignored by the coaches. If blount was in all game and threw for 275 yds, would we have won?
GA may not want to upset DG too much for now, but I dont think DGs job is very safe and it shouldnt be cosidering the performance…
I will check how many yds dg threw for against MN and ID.
Go beavs
One of the things I thought that was better for the Beavs was that in the 2nd half the offense was on the field more which was good for the defense.
The only way we will win, as soon as we would like, is to have the offense play better and keep the D off the field. Obvious , eh?
Barring that, patience is required.
You are reading my mind. That’s why I posted during the game when I saw Blount and Baldwin together so often.
I asked Gina in a comment on Olive if she’d look into this. She has, in the past and slowly, responded to prompting like this (see Wallace’s absence in Bend and Kearsley’s move to C) so I have some hope she will follow up. I don’t use twitter, if any degenerates here do, then it would not hurt to contact her and ask.
She often solicits (cue BG) questions for her weekly podcast, please ask there.
At this point we are left with speculation. I don’t believe Baldwin has a history with Blount prior to Corvallis. The simplest explanation may be that McGiven is upstairs and Woods has his own concerns, with GA so defensive oriented, someone had to work with the kid. Maybe?
Two other items: Garretson seemed to encourage Blount on the sideline, and, did anyone see Blount on the phone with McGiven?
EDIT: Meant as a response to blackhillsbeav above.
By any chance is Baldwin involved with the scout team? Perhaps that’s the connection.
Coach A said after game that Garretson was unable to do some things (due to injury) like run. So I don’t think it was his passing as much as the game plan is for a running quarterback and Garretson was unable or unwilling to do that. So I think that was where they wanted the QB to run the ball or rollout and Garretson was not doing that.
I think I’d like it better if the QB coach was on the sidelines where he could talk one on one to the QB rather than being in the booth and coaching by phone.
But maybe the actual (not official) QB coach was on the sidelines, in this case. I wonder if Blount is a special project of Baldwin’s.
Jahmal Wynter, the Georgia DL who visited this weekend tweeted about his visit and says “See you soon Beavernation”
If a guy from GA plans to see us soon, sounds like a good bet he will be a commit in the near future. Can’t imagine he’d be traveling back west for any other reason.
https://twitter.com/Havo_c/status/780132687356899328
Thanks to the staff @BeaverFootball I enjoyed my time in Corvallis see you soon #BeaverNation
Cool. Any word re the JC DL kid who played @ Michigan State? I believe his name is Craig Evans.
Haven’t heard anything. Nice that he was already an Andersen and coach Chad commit at Wisconsin. They must trust each other. Hope his grades are in order now. One of those guys that got away from GA at his last school
Found his twitter page and there’s nothing there.
https://twitter.com/craigevans18
Now we have a toughness problem in the opposite direction, Garretson too hobbled to be effective.
Who’s the best replacement at h-back since Togiai is out, Nall? Is that the best for the offense as a whole? Is mcmaryion hobbled too?
Les Miles fired again….
Lol I called that shit before the season, just didn’t know it would be that quick. And I got down voted. Well they made Orgeron the interm, made he’ll stick this time.
He wanted to stick at USC and in hindsight I bet they’re kicking themselves for not keeping him.
Yup, dumb move by USC.
Those 10 win seasons are just terrible, I would love for our beavs to fire a coach for not getting into the playoff but posting a very successful record. Wonder who LSU is gonna go after.
I keep waiting for sweater vest to come out of hiding.
I think he is done.
Bo Pelini? They liked him as DC. He is crazy enough. I miss his mouth frothing outbursts. Never happen, but it would be fun.
MR of course.
While Miles had issues, he was a perfect fit for a goofy culture down there. They could end up like Tennessee when they canned Fulmer. Really sucking for a while. Be careful what you wish for.
It would be awesome if they hired Lame Kiffen. Saban vs Kiffen.
I would assume they make a run at the Houston coach.
Could you imagine them getting Riley. That would be the single dumbest move in college football history since Nebraska did it.
Lat time I looked Nebraska is 3 – 0. Your Riley bashing falls dead cat flat.
Looks like they fired the OC also. Plus it’s being reported that they have reached out to Tom Herman and Art Briles through their agents.
Are they tryin to get Herman before usc does?
If Houston gets into the Big 12, he may stay there. Much easier path to a championship and recruiting that can be done riding a Segway. Downside…..living in Houston.
They won’t get Herman, really nobody will with the money flowing through Houston right now. Big time oil company cash going to them. Briles on the other hand……he’s got nothing going on.
I agree.
Jordan Poyer led Cleveland in tackles with 13 today. Nice to see him finding success
I think Garretson getting hit so many times really shook him. He just has not been making the same reads and going through his progressions. Now he really doesn’t have much time, but I think when Blount went in he often took that extra second for the next read or used his legs to buy an extra second. I would have like to see Lucas get the ball thrown his way more, maybe at least a screen or something. I also think the run game was hit and miss, I mean yeah they found success but only when down 31 to 7 in the second half. If you can’t get one yard on 4th and 1, why would they magically have been able to pound it up the middle all the other times? I do think they left the run too early in the first half after multiple short gains. Maybe the second half is enough of a turning point to come in and hit Colorado you may still be on the high beating the Ducks overlook the beavs
Dave Aranda to Corvallis! Hey his boss just got canned. Dream big…..
GA really getting the band back together.
I said it was a dumb move for him…….maybe he will find success as a MAC head coach.
Les Miles to hole talk in 3……2……1……
USC?
That’s more realistic, but hole fan is delusional and will fantasize about firing Simple Jack junior and hiring Les Miles mid season and going undefeated for the rest of eternity.
I’m seein a bunch of Miles to USC posts on twitter. Delusional like the ducks.
Eggers with a little more on Blount yesterday. McGiven was in communication via phone blount during the game. Also, very little said about McMaryion. Won’t be surprised to hear he wants to transfer out. Time to start recruiting another 2017 or JUCO QB.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/324527-204158-oregon-state-has-a-new-backup-plan-at-qb?utm_source=New+Media&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PortlandTribune+%28Portland+Tribune%29
Can we move GA over to athletic director and bring in Les Miles and Dave Aranda.
GA l’s got that gift of gab that would fit well in the AD role.
No, I’m not serious, but i do think GA could make a good AD some day
The only concern I currently have about GA as AD is if he hires coaches like he hired assistants then……….. In other words, so far I’m not impressed the assistants who are in the foreground and you notice. Folks like Baldwin and possibly the QB/OC coach. But I keep telling myself I have to give them time before coming to a conclusion. But…..
P.S. Is Eggers reading this board? :-)
Hi Phil… Any chance I could get my old job back? This pro stuff is really hard and no one appreciates my quips. C. Kelly
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Good luck next Sunday! About that roster, if life gives you lemons, well, we’ll end up firing you, I’m not going to lie.
Trent Baalke, General Manager
It’s officially open season on LSU recruits! That’s the kind of big boys we need on the line
Too many carrots. LSU line recruits ain’t coming to Corvallis.
They can’t. There’s no airport.
Yes, my dr says lay off on the carrots, I’m turning orange! Just trying to be the ultimate fan!
Parsnips……..are the new carrots.
Sounds like we have a new commit from Utah, according to Yray
Not sure who, but Taylor Katoa would be a nice QB pickup
Hip, hip,Yray!
Guessing its Taniela Pututau.
That would make sense. He did have us in his top list recently. Also watching Dylan Krans and Jordan Lolohea, but so far got nothin…
Any time there’s a commit from the SLC area, it almost doesnt count cause theyre likely going mission route out of highschool
RIP Arnold Palmer. It’s being reported Arnold Palmer has passed away at 87. Hell of a golfer, pretty good drink.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/09/25/report-arnold-palmer-dies-in-pittsburgh-at-87/
Well the Ryder Cup here this week will be an Arnie tribute fest.
Mexibeav predicted the new commit, but now i dont see your message.
https://twitter.com/BeavRecruiting/status/780229031933325313
His film looks better on OL than the DL yes?
Mission guy either way, so we wont likely ever see him. More recruiting ranking stat stuffing
GA ‘s recruiting is on a mission?
Anyone know for sure if Togiai qualifies for medical redshirt? I believe he does. We haven’t even started Pac-12 play yet. He actually provides one more piece in future seasons to look forward to. Today’s commit Fauatea says he is excited to play with Togiai which is cool.
He still has a redshirt year, so the medical year may not be necessary.
He had played in less tham 25% of games on the schedule, so i think he would qualify
Doesn’t playing even one minute prevent taking a regular redshirt? I think he’ll need, and qualify for, a medical redshirt.
Medical hardships are for a sixth year after all other forms of eligibility have expired.
It sure seems like the cougs are losing a lot of commitments?
They thought they were signing up to play football, not JC Softball.
Cougin it.
Ducks just picked up a pretty big 2017 commitment, and the guy announced via a bleacher report movie spoof of Forest Gump.
You’re gonna fit right in buddy….
https://twitter.com/CarsonBooyJay21/status/780452447546318848
Oh wow…
Porebsky will be getting nice punts off in Colorado this week with the altitude. Our defense will keep us in games this year, but we lack depth to keep the team fresh. I was quite impressed with Blount. He had 3 missed reads where we had guys wide open if he’d gone through his progressions; however, he certainly can throw a deep ball where only our guy can get it.
I’m glad to see our receivers(minus the ripped pick 6 off of SC) go up and get the balls. That was one thing that has been lacking the past 2 games.
Is Jake Cookus our main special teams coach? Would make sense why that squad seems sharper than previous years(except Bolden’s wild punt receptions in the first couple if games)
No he’s one of those personnel coaches I think. I’m not sure he can coach players on the field. But I might be wrong on that.