Some names to watch over the next few months.
- Brian Cole
- Jordan Agasiva
- Juliano Falaniko
- Craig Evans
- Jamire Calvin
- Rahyme Johnson
- Brandon Pili
Per my hunches, sources, etc, I think Evans is the only good bet of the bunch, but the Beavs are 33-50% with most of the other guys. Battling maybe a school or two. In-home visit tonight with Calvin per Twitter. Personally I want as many high quality (legit 3 stars and above) DT and OLs as we can get.
Saw mention of Isaiah Miller in the prior thread. I think we lost him to an SEC school since they’re all coming late to the party and much closer to home. The perils of recruiting Florida…
Anyway, list names you’re hearing, what positions you think the Beavs should be recruiting for their final 6 slots, etc.
What’s happened with DB Keisean Nixon?
Impeached!
Slick Willie was impeached. Tricky Dicky resigned.
And only one of them had to be pardoned.
I know, but it sounds better.
Cause the other one settledk out of court, and lost his law license.
Because the other one settled out of court, paid big bucks, and lost his law license.
I will add some names to this tomorrow. Gotta get some sleep first.
Also, Tony Dungy basically says here that Taggart will be the next duck coach.
https://twitter.com/TonyDungy/status/806352004037677056
Hmmm… nothing about an airport.
He must know nothing about what PSAs really think about these schools.
Also, this is a good time for all of you to thank NiceBeaver for keeping up the twitter recruiting. It’s made AB not only the best op-ed Beaver blog, but also a top recruiting resource.
Thank you, Nicebeaver.
Such a nice NiceBeaver :)
Willie Taggart to Oregon. But I thought they were getting Chip Kelly back???? That’s what they were saying with their “inside sources” ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOL
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18225743/oregon-ducks-hire-usf-bulls-willie-taggart-next-coach
Mostly unimpressed. A few years at Stanford should have been good for him, but I don’t see him taking UO where Helfrich could not. And Helfrich got them pretty high (Kelly recruits, Mariota, etc.). I could see UO having some good years again in the near future, but not great.
They did put up the points this year:
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-16/2016-usf-bulls-football-schedule.php
An interesting sub-plot is the Beavs and Ducks should be both recruiting Florida now.
AND the oregonian doesn’t have Taggart hiring story yet. Too funny…
Another, consideration. I’m guessing USF doesn’t have the highest of academic requirements. I wonder what kind of student-athletes Taggart will recruit to Oregon?
They’re still snuggled in bed dreaming of that Chip Kelly press conference that’s taking place later today
Man boobs has left the building.
Oregon’s football is such a premier program they were turned down by Matt Rhule and Bryan Harsin. You got snubbed by two coaches who aren’t even at a P5 school. You hired a coach with a career record of 40-45. So like their 20th choice? I believe I stated the other day this was looking similar to their search for a hoops coach and went after Izzo and the coach at Kansas.
Shot for the moon only to be shot down in flames
Nothing wrong with shooting for the moon. It’s the arrogance of saying you’re going to do something that isn’t possible and having your followers believe it is possible that was really really bad about that situatiion.
Just quietly use diplomacy to gauge interest and move down the list. Then it doesn’t manifest in some huge joke.
Well Kauha’aha’a had an in-home with Pili last week according to Scout. I’m hoping they can pull him but betting he’s going to be a Husky. Reasonably close to his Ak home (I think Seattle has an airport?).
Agree on the OLs DTs as priorities. I’d pick CBs next, and the Beavs are doing well there.
But it’s a half hour from the airport to the school with no traffic. So that’s a no go.
As usual, pay site quality recruiting info without any of the bullshit. Keep up the good work Nicebeaver!
“without any of the bullshit”
Jack posts beg to differ ;)
Nobody around here begs.
^^ and right on cue! ^^
*whoosh*
I wouldn’t be discounting Taggart at all. His track record is fairly impressive. He may have to clean house to get his kind of guys but the guy can coach.
Sure his name is underwhelming for a program that considers itself elite but it’s a good hire.
Buts it’s Oregon, a destination job that should attract an A level coach! Ha Ha!!
‘Premier, Lamborghini’ program to you sir.
Which really brings up the question, what is a premiere program?
I’d say Alabama, tOSU, Harbaugh’s Khakis, Texas, U$C… although any P5 school would be big time, those seem the upper echelon at least in terms of history and perception.
“Lamborghini?” I remember Canzano writinging Helfrich had been handed the keys to “Oregon’s Space Shuttle.”
Maybe he was accurate – the space shuttle program did end after all…
Think he tries to lure Lockette to Oregon since he was there st USF for a few years? Would be a tough hit if that happened.
I don’t like that. Hopefully we can keep the checkbook open so that doesn’t happen.
Maybe we can make Telly the co-co-O-co.
The current USF RB coach (Donte Pimpleton) was Taggart’s college teammate and they’ve been coaching together for I think 5 years, I’m guessing he’s more likely than Lockette, who was only at USF for two years.
I agree with Bill, Taggart will be a great coach at Oregon (unfortunately). Personally I thought that is who LSU should of hired if they wanted to stay competitive with Alabama. He’s a good fit for the offensive roster that he’s inheriting.
I think he’ll be a good coach, but the quack days of NC appearances and Chip Kelly era domination are over
He’s also only 40 so if he does do well, he’ll be there for a while.
But is he 40 and a man?
I AM A MAN! I AM 40!!! YOU COME AFTER ME, NOT THOSE KIDS!!!
Right. Just like Chip
I think they were lucky to land on Taggart. They’re going to go through DCs like no tomorrow. But their O will click.
The interesting part to me will be how many of the old staff will be brought back. Are they just gone now? Was Nikegon going to go in a different direction completely? Will they still since Taggart is their sixth or so pick?
How many coaches had to say publicly they weren’t going to Nikegon?
McElwain, Rhule, Harsin, fourth? Fleck and Musgrave were sought through back channels, and they quietly declined.
Saw a report Fedora wanted to go home to Texas. He may have lucked out by missing the Baylor job. aTm might be available next year. I’m wondering how many coaches out there are waiting for Notre Dame to come open.
Pettibonehead also rejected them.
Mike Bellotti announced he would not be the next coach at Nikegon.
Reports say the Dan Mullen was another finalist. Probably because he has ties to Chip Kelly.
By Chip Kelly, I’m assuming you mean Urban Meyer.
Urban Kelly.
No, I mean Chip Kelly.
Mullen and Kelly have a little history together. Both are from the same town in New Hampshire and Kelly helped Mullen get into coaching.
And Mullen indirectly introduced Kelly to Oregon.
Was Mullen the one who introduced the Mumme offense to Chip?
I don’t understand your question………….you mean Brady Hoke is only getting one year to turn around the defense? Please say it isn’t so, Jack!
Canzano reporting Brennan to SJST as HC
https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/status/806541868695592960
Good for Brennan. He’s a great recruiter, hopefully Andersen has someone in mind to fill the void. Will be interesting to see what Hodgins says.
Gonna be tough for recruiting (maybe) but receivers have been a weakness on the offensive end ever since Cooks left. I honestly can’t think of a receiver he’s recruited or coached that’s made much of an impact at all
It shows that GA retains and/or mentors good coaches in terms of outside perspectives.
I nominate Jay Harbaugh… or the WR coach for WVU… Carrier?
Hopefully we don’t lose any of the top Receivers in the class, but I believe Baldwin is the main Hodgins connection (coached his dad.)
Better start slammin some dike coke and making some phone calls coach.
Diet, whoops
Hahahaha
Thought maybe you knew something we all didn’t know D :)
This is true, that Baldwin is the main connection, but Hodgins has a pretty tight relationship with Brennan, which is what kept us in consideration last year when Baldwin was demoted.
Good for him.
I guess GA didn’t have to fire him after all.
Just saw a tweet – Brennan is new HC at SJSU.
BREAKING: Oregon State assistant Brent Brennan will be named head coach at San Jose State, per source
Brennan to San Jose ST – Head Coach
Per Canzano, Brent Brennan to be named SJSU head coach.
Not surprised. He used to coach there and the only Riley hold over. He’s a good recruiter but a so-so coach. I think Wheaton, Cooks, Rodgers, made him look good. I’m confident GA can fill that spot with someone good. Unless Baldwin slides over to coach WR.
Also, I’m hoping the RB coach Lockette doesn’t jump to Oregon since he used to be Taggart’s RB coach at USF. He’s a stud recruiter in FL. Got us all those FL guys like pierce, and some other DBs. Would hate to lose him to Oregon.
Man that would suck. I think Lockette is one they really need to go the extra mile to keep.
Good for him.
And no the players didn’t make him look good, he did develop those guys into very good players.
Taggart a D+ coach.
https://twitter.com/CFBMatrix/status/806542737717661697
Maybe the ducks knew they needed some D and got confused
Oh they’re gonna be getting the D alright with the way Taggarts teams play defense
If Brennan is gone, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hodgins back on the market again. His time is running out though if he decides to switch things up, since he’s a december grad.
Move Baldwin to outside receivers, and bring in Jay Harbaugh for inside.
Done.
Brennan story: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2016/12/brent_brennan_oregon_state_rec_1.html#incart_river_index
McCaffrey to the NFL.
Brennan, big loss recruiting-wise, but the WRs have all had problems since Mannion left, and I’m curious to see if a new coach can fix it.
thought i posted something but it must have landed in purgatory. was going to say, the Brennan news could be devastating to this class. He recruited the Chandler and the Cathedral guys. Hopefully they were sold on the program as much as they were on their recruiting coach. Taylor seems like a pretty steady commit. Hard to know with Green. He’s been blowing up lately, so we don’t really know who all is talking to him outside of OSU. And the Cathedral guys, if Flemings doesn’t stick around, that would pretty much kill all hopes with the other guys (Manning Jr, Calvin, Echols)
Luck O da Beavs!
Does that count as an indirect screw you from Riley and crew?
The guy throwing the ball to them is the issue. WR coach is less of an issue.
I thought Brennan was a good coach. Doubt there will be many losses in recruiting this year. Can’t see guys flipping to SJSU.
In this hypothetical our commits and recruits are good enough to be poached by many other wanting schools. This isn’t the OSU of old where an airport mattered.
You always win some and lose some. But they’re being sold on being a part of a team on the rise, and their talent together will facilitate that dream that much faster. Most will buy into the idea they can be legend together. A couple will go be a cog in some other machine. It is what it is.
Brennan being promoted like this is a good look for our program.
Jack Harbaugh and Tony Dungy both love Taggart. Best recruiter? Dungy clearly just wants to propel Taggart into the NFL. Not sure what Harbaugh’s angle is other than he’s from the coaching tree.
Anyway, I read that Taggart’s team averaged 40 points per game. If he can recruit and coach as I’m also reading, maybe this is a home run after all. Just looking at his record and pedigree I wasn’t impressed.
http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/12/jack_harbaugh_on_oregon_ducks.html
Dungy is solid, his support alone is a bit scary for this Beav.
We could be entering a phase where, generally, the Beavs are very strong on D while the ucks are an offensive force. D wins, right?
From comments on o-live.
“Let’s see 10 and 2 so who did he beat:
Towson record 4-7
Northern Illinois record 5-7
Syracuse record 4-8
FSU Loss
Cincinnati record 4-8
East Carolina record 3-9
UConn record 3-9
Temple Loss
Navy record 9-3
Memphis record 8-4, but they beat Houston
SMU record 5-7
UCF record 6-6
His record with tough teams is 2-2.”
Maybe he is a good recruiter, I’m willing to bet, barring some unreal assistant coach hires, he does average at oregon. i mean the guy was there 4th,5th,6th Pick?
ok, going to try to chip away at some positions here, while I’m at work. Just listing off the names of some guys I’m keeping an eye on, with a few notes.
O-Line:
Jordan Agasiva- JC O-lineman who visited us recently. One of the top JC OL recruits in the country. We’re in his top 2-3, along with TCU and Utah. We need this guy to patch up holes in the OL from some of our departing seniors.
George Moore- JC O-lineman. WSU commit. I think(but haven’t confirmed) that he was a secret visitor here a couple of weeks back(Arizona game). It’s not being reported anywhere that I’ve seen, but just a hunch on my part based on some things I’ve seen.
Onesimus Lutu-Clarke- 2017 OL from Hawaii. Visited us for the Arizona game. Think we have a good chance with landing him. BYU, Delaware St and Hawaii are other offers.
Mo Unutoa- 2017 OL from Hawaii. Visited for the WSU game. Not sure which way he’s leaning. Probably depends also on how many OL we plan to bring in this year.
Cody Shear- 2017 Arizona commit. We haven’t given up on him, and he is getting recruited by GA personally. For that reason alone, I think we still have a shot with him, despite being an Arizona commit.
Abraham Lucas- 2017 WSU commit. Probably a longshot, but worth keeping an eye on. Haven’t heard anything about a visit from him, so that’s not a great sign.
Your multitasking abilities are appreciated!
I hope you are not an air traffic controller.
Roger, Roger.
UO hires a black coach! Now I can finally root for the quackers instead of you crackers! Officially, I mean.
And I’m calling it right now when they run him off after three years for not meeting their unrealistic Chip Cracker – I mean Kelly wet dream expectations: RACISM!!!!!
I’m so smart and progressive :) I deserve a new pair of shoes!
New shoes? I suggest you settle for another bear claw, unless that offends your PETA leanings!
I assure you I am very much in favor of PITA! On wheat, not white please
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKETOKAO0A
Huh?
You dumb.
SEXISM!!!!!
Who from Utah State will GA hire?
He should hire James Rodgers.
D-Line:
(again, these aren’t current commits. Just guys I’m watching going forward)
Craig Evans- JC DT. Former Michigan State guy who was 4* out of highschool. Failed a couple of drug tests while at Michigan State, hence the transfer to a JC program. It was transfer, or sit for 6 games. I think we land him, mostly due to GA having a long relationship with him.
Brandon Pili- 2017 DT. Moved to the Beaverton, OR area for his senior year of highschool, originally from Alaska. Has picked up offers from many other teams, although OSU was first P5 offer. It’s thought that he really wants a UW offer, but that hasn’t materialized as of yet, and I think the only way that happens is if someone else defects from UW’s current class. Hard to say what our chances are, but the fact that his family hosted Coach Chad in Alaska last week has to help.
Of note, in head to head this year, he was dominated by local OT Jaxson Kirkland, who is a 2017 UCLA pledge.
Hunter Echols- 2017 DE-USC commit. Longshot, but, if we can land Calvin, it might help make OSU more attractive to poach Echols from USC. The recent Brennan news might just blow that whole plan up. Hopefully not.
Jordan Lolohea- 2017 DE from Utah’s East High School. We’re in his top 3 along with WSU and Utah, although he’s hosted UW for a home visit, and BYU is also an option. Would be great to establish a pipeline at East, similar to our Chandler connection. Lots of competition here though.
The recruiting around DE and DT is pretty quiet lately. We have 2 2017 commits, but they’re both mission guys who won’t really count, so it would seem we would need more guys here. Could be there are a couple of quieter guys being recruited that we haven’t heard about. Thinking about a guy like Gus Lavaka who was added pretty quietly in December last year.
Today is pretty busy at work, so if there’s a position group you’re interested in hearing more about, let me know and i’ll try to focus on them next.
TEs/HBs
Since the Brennan story has broke, I will say something. I have known for awhile that one of our offensive players has been very close to transferring. In fact, in the past two weeks he has become very displeased with his playing time/role and started making noise about it. He also had an incident that made him question being in Corvallis. Brennan leaving is either going to make him consider staying now, or it will really push him over the edge to transfer/quit. Things are going to be interesting.
“Brennan leaving is either going to make him consider staying now, or …
So, if Brennan leaving may make “him” consider staying, does that imply that “he” felt disrespected/unappreciated by Brennan?
Did “he” miss a flight? And thus “question being in Corvallis”?
If the player in question has the initials JV that’s the type of schools he should consider transferring to
I was hoping you could be more vague.
I think everyone knows something is off with JV and he’ll be gone one way or another.
It’s not JV.
Seth?
I was thinking the same thing…I think he’s from So. Cal
My guess is you are referring to PL.
That would make sense also.
He does face an uphill battle for time with the backs in front of him and the receivers and backs incoming. He didn’t show patience until late in the season, and he never showed any top speed, if he has one.
Hope we hire a black coach who can recruit to replace Brennan. 750TheGame is spinning Taggart as a great recruiter because he can “relate” to young, black youth.
GAs DB coach hire was great. Let’s see what he can pull off.
That’s what Lindsey said.
DB is for defensive back, not double burrito…..
Hall’s wife not a big fan of the NW, be curious to see how long he stays in Corvallis.
Bummer.
So the current ones we have aren’t good enough?
Could be possible (just maybe) that he means another one would be ideal
Consider the depth of the source and the shallowness of the idea.
I think most anyone in the coaching ranks knows how to relate to black youth given who they have on their rosters. When looking at a younger coach, it’s that uch more likely.
Good for Brennan. Really liked him so happy for him.
Regarding recruiting: At least he’s going to a mid-major and all the players we’re worried about losing are true P-5 talents that most likely won’t be leaving with.
Seems like a lot of these kids also have friends on the team that are recruiting them as much as the coaches are.
So far GA has been great at limiting flips. At this point I trust he’s the main reason why and imagine we’ll keep most.
Also seems like Brennan was the guys who got the credit, but quietly Baldwin is the one with connections to a lot of these California kids and their families.
The last link to the Riley glory years has been cut. Let’s do a hip, hip, to honor the moment.
Brennan wasn’t here in 2006.
We still have Lyle Moevao, Cookus and Cummings
Brennan is going to need a staff. Wonder if he takes some of our support staff with him, or hires some of the Grad Assistants?
OT, but GA needs to start wearing sunscreen. He is going to get skin cancer, if he doesn’t already have it. I mean look at the nose and freckles/moles: https://csnnw.app.box.com/s/5w8d5ood1kb1e8q0h2q0s1qle2l1ambd
Every time I see him outside coaching he has a little visor on and sun beating on his face.
Everyone should protect themselves from the sun, but I thought it was just rosacea. Maybe you’re right, and he needs to slap some ZO on that beak during practices.
Could be rosacea, but every photo I see of him has the sun beating down on his face.
All coaches have to deal with this I’m sure, but GA seems pretty fair skinned and more skin damaged than most I see.
Maybe hes a lush……..and hides it well. (I don’t believe he’s a lush)
Or maybe just a hat, sunscreen is no good for you.
ZO is fine and has been shown to be beneficial… when combined with orange.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27151695
Needs to roll with the army ranger hat like Sitake.
He looks like more of a straw hat type of guy. He should have stolen this one.
http://cdn.deseretnews.com/images/article/contentimage/1160590/1160590.jpg
And it looks like Sitake’s lid is a ball cap in this one.
I’m assuming he would have to wear some authenticated (whatever that means) gear. I don’t see anything here.
http://shop.osubeavers.com/COLLEGE_Oregon_State_Beavers_Hats_Mens
Do they not have straw in China?
Thought Vietnamese wages were the lowest, so this looks like stiff markup:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/NON-LA-Vietnamese-Vietnam-Straw-Peasant-Farmer-Palm-Bamboo-Rice-HAT-HANDMADE-/260419150190
You need to be able to put a swoosh on it… oh, and our logo. I was thinking more like this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Men-Panama-Garden-Fishing-Sun-Pool-Beach-Bamboo-Wide-Large-Brim-Straw-Hat-ED-/252518246036?hash=item3acb42a694:g:OjkAAOSwGtRXxQ4c
I would recommend this, but it looks like they don’t sell it any more.
http://www.orvis.com/p/handwoven-straw-lifeguard-hat/1t8e
I’ll have to see if I can find the manufacturer. I know someone who could use one of those. I can’t find anything Nike with a wide brim.
This looks like the hat I’ve had for years.
http://shop.sfhat.com/riverz/riverz-scout
new WR coach must have good connects in So Cal. Cummings fits the bill as a promotion hire but may be A BIT too young. I’ve seen him a hand full of times at HS games out here.
WSU already trying to poach Arex Flemings. Probably a move to try and get closer to Calvin. So it begins….
Can’t have him… go away.
Jaylon Lane is looking around too. Saw he started following Tom Herman and Haggart as well as a Texas Tech coach player.
Then just now he tweets….
“2 years left .. I gotta make sure the spot I’m at is the absolute right spot for me .. & my family .??
“
That’s enough bad news for today sir. Starting to encroach on my beav fan safe space
And now Lane has an offer from Texas Tech…..
Doesn’t Baldwin have san jose st. Ties? Any chance he follows Brennan as an oc?
Guess it depends on what GA and OSU are paying him next year.
That would be a huge blow.
OSU is either going to need to pay guys, or lose them.
Man, today sucks….
Ya i don’t see it as likely but you never know. Maybe they give him a raise and just have one receiver coach. I think he’s the key to keeping hodgins.
SJSU doesn’t have the money to pull coaches from us. They are paying the last head coach under 600,000. A year Baldwin makes around 450,000 I believe. And why would you leave the pac12 for the MWC and less money in a higher tier job?
Very true however…………
It won’t be Pac-12 money, that’s for sure. But Bleymaier hinted that the salary pool for assistants will go up.
“We’re looking to help in that regard,” Bleymaier said. “We live in the most expensive city in the (Mountain West) conference, and maybe the country.”
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/07/report-san-jose-state-to-name-oregon-state-assistant-as-football-coach/
That was a concern of mine, too. It would be a blow, but at the same time you can see that GA’s ability to put a good staff together is going to make this an ongoing problem just as it will be the solution. Lockette , Clune, Baldwin all deserve looks this year and next for new positions
He was the HC and they fired him………not sure he would go back as a coordinator, but who knows.
Agree, not sure he’d go back as a coordinator. And there is that cost of living thing in San Jose.
What do ya make of this from Baldwin re: the Brennan hire?
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/07/report-san-jose-state-to-name-oregon-state-assistant-as-football-coach/
Personally, I think we have a good chance to close this class out strong. GA is recruiting his ass off and even the low hanging fruit look more like actual fruit than Riley’s withered up projects.
Also I really think Brennan to SJSU is a great call. The dude deserved an upgrade for his recruiting alone and this will be a great experience for him. Much better than Langsdork
Dear Men’s Wearhouse… I will not be needing the new suit that I ordered on Monday. Can I have the deposit back? Thank you.
“You’re gonna like the way you lose. I guarantee it.”
Would you recruit some other fine coaches to this board? Your perspective is so entertaining. Recruitment is everything and if Angrybeavs is to remain an elite site we will need others. May I suggest the real Craig Robinson. There’s others I am sure but their names are so obscure that I can’t remember them.
I hate Lynn Snyder.
Lockette to ducks ….soon
And Chipper will be back any day now………
Helfrich as receiver coach?
that’s pretty funny, and i would love to see it happen.
added Helfrich to my twitter pull
Lol that would be quite the laugh.
pull? ha, meant pole. how did that happen?
Pull, pole, and poll. All the possible variations. Thanks for all the recruiting work and information.
If we hire Helf to coach all the receivers, that leaves one position for a dedicated ST coach.
Think how awesome our ST would be with their own coach.
I can Read between the lines.
Don’t bring me down……Bruce.
(Yes, I know that’s not really the lyric, but I like to think it is)
GA is on record saying he views him as a great coach…
So, we hire Helfrich as OC, then McGiven moves back to Full time QB coach and Woods back to full time OL coach. Baldwin moves to full-time WR coach.
Could solve alot of our offensive issues from the past 2 years.
And Helf would still be making the same salary Oregon owes him for the next 3 years, while we just pay a typical OC salary and Oregon makes up any difference.
Plus, maybe we could snag a few of Oregon’s recruits? I’m on board.
That would be a “Big Boy Hire”.
And Helf could stick it to Nike for the next several civil war games.
Helfrich wouldn’t be a bad hire. He might even take it since the move wouldn’t be a long move with young kids and he wouldn’t be out any money. Would be a short term move since he’d probably want to at least be an OC some where and return to the HC ranks. Kind of think he may take a year off before finding another job.
I think Anderson may go for a full time d line coach since they don’t have one.
The coach to pick off the former Oregon staff is David Yost.
Is that the surfer looking dude? I have heard nothing but meh comments about him. Like he’s not as good as people think he is.
The guys on 1080am radio call him the Quarterback Brah, or something like that.
Would you take him over McG?
I mean, what if you were presented with Helf and McG as a possible OC and QB coach? Somebody would have to go, and I think it would be an upgrade at both coaching slots.
Helf………I’m not convinced is a great OC. As an OC he never called plays, that was all Chip. He was basically a stuffed shirt with an OC after his name taking a pay check, when in reality Chip ran the offense the way he wanted it and called it. Really no more than a position coach for the QBs. Who was coaching Mariota, and the previous before him QB?
I’m with you. Don’t want anyone on that coaching staff. Watching them the last two years kind of proves the point it was Mariota and CK’s offense. Once Mariota was gone they were left with zippo and had to go out and get x’fer QB’s to even remotely attempt to run their offense. So if they failed to recruit or develop any QB’s worth a shit, why would we want them to come here and do the same???
Not sold on Herbert?
Herbert could be good, but they sold their souls with the grad transfer nonsense. Will he fit in taggert offense?
McCaffrey to the NFL, gonna be tough for Stanford to do the next man up thing to replace talent like that. I always thought him & Nall look so similar when running the ball. The pac 12 just got easier.
Guess you never heard of or watched Bryce Love or Cameron Scarlett? They both filled in for McCaffrey just fine when he was hurt. Love actually averaged more yards per carry than McCaffrey and Scarlett is bigger. McCaffrey was/is very good but I don’t think they’re going to miss a beat with those two next year.
They are stacked at RB, so it’ll surely continue to be a position of strength for them. That said, I absolutely don’t buy “won’t miss a beat.” He’s a special player and you can’t replace him that easily.
You mentioned how the other two compliment each other well stylistically, but they are still a committee with different strengths/roles. The beauty of a guy like McCaffrey (or Nall) is versatility – if you can do it all, then your presence on the field doesn’t telegraph the play call.
“He’s a special player and you can’t replace him that easily.”
Same thing was said about Toby Gerhart and it worked out just fine for them
I don’t think who’s running the ball matters very much with the OLine they put together every year. I honestly can’t remember the last time they struggled to run the ball
McCaffrey to the NFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo
Over at BTD they’re starting the rumor that Chad will be the replacement receiver’s coach…
More “fake news”………those damn russians.
Yep.
Do you need a degree to coach in college, or is that just for the head coach?
And you can’t have had a number for a name.
Where is the article about Calvin not considering OSU any more?
Was feeling down about the possibility of Telly Lockette joining Taggart down south so I checked in on Those Poor Bastards at the Boneyard.
A discussion of the importance of a win vs Tenn (and the possibility of a loss) yielded this jewel:
“But even so, good success next year fixes things. Eleven or twelve wins next year while showcasing Riley’s real offense trumps (small ‘t’ right?) everything. “
Eleven or twelve wins, Riley’s real offense! Guess TPB’s never heard of Riley’s patented, long learning curve, complex playbook!
They have heard about it because I went over there and told them. They just didn’t want to listen.
Exactly, I should have pointed that out.
There is a very small fraction of the group over there which is beginning to catch on, but generally they remain delusional.
Hummmm. That sounds oddly familiar…….
I can’t put my finger on it……
I like the poor bastards “twelve win” comment. I guess he’s thinking “Riley’s real offense” has a chance to make it to the playoffs with a new QB in his first season? I wouldn’t be surprised to see that delusion squashed the second week against the Quacks in Eugene.
LMAO! They’ll be lucky to win half that many games with a new QB with Riley’s “complex playbook”
Yup. I tried to break the reality to my bro when he was pouting about the “embarrassing” loss to Iowa and could not wait to have Tommy Armstrong gone. Reality….with a normal MR statue at QB they would have won 6 games last year. I don’t think it got through. Next year will be interesting.
I can’t wait for them to discover the joy of standing fetal syndrome.
Wait for their reaction when there’s “play action” on 3rd and 30….with routes run at 8 – 15 yards deep….
Those were my favorites.
Then the 2:1 TD:INT ratio provides more opportunities for the other team, broken coverages, breakdowns, late alignments ensue, and big plays result as Banker hand jives away frenetically on the sideline….
I’m sorry but Jaylon Lane, a defensive back, wanting to possibly decommit because our wide receivers coach left? Does that make no sense to anybody else? If he leaves so be it. That’s stupid as hell imo.
Not if Brennan was the primary recruiter.
So you’re saying we sent our wide receivers coach to go recruit one of our better defensive players in this class? That doesn’t make any sense to me but I guess.
All coaches have a region for recruiting. They are the primary recruiters for that area. They bring home tape and assessments, and then the staff evaluates and decides whether or not the position coach steps in to push to close. But the regional coach usually remains a main point of contact.
I don’t know that Lane’s looking around is even related to Brennam. Think it’s just coincidence that the two events happened in the same day. His Juco is in Kansas, which is not an area Brennan recruited.
Either way, it’s my least favorite part if the whole recruiting cycle. Thinking a guy is committed and just sitting around waiting for teams to poach.
Juco kids are going to be active in the next week. So this shouldn’t be any surprise.
But think for just a second… Corvallis… or Lubbock?
It works both ways, though. We’ll poach.
Lane is a high risk recruit. Has he truly changed from his arrest in high school? Not sure you want him if his recruiter is gone. Who will make sure he doesn’t do anything dumb again?
Are you going to charge him with theft after his first INT?
Maybe since Brennan’s WRs can’t catch they had him recruit DBs.
Who else is sick of Xmas music already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBkV-gmyr7w
I haven’t listened to any yet. I do feel bad for people who can’t control noise pollution in their daily lives.
Haven’t started mine at work yet, probably Monday, hope staff doesn’t revolt.
Nice Canzano column about the AD search:
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2016/12/canzano_oregon_state_athletic_1.html
Here’s what I like to hear…
— By the way, a key component of this interview will be the candidates’ approach and vision. I can feel the internal push at Oregon State to end the “Giant-killers” talk and stop pitching the “Little Engine that Could” storyline that has dominated their narrative. It’s not that OSU doesn’t want to connect with some of its good David v. Goliath history, rather, it’s that the Beavers would like to kill the perception that they’re a Pac 12 “have-not” and replace that messaging with stronger branding. I like that. OSU is tired of being the little guy. If you’re a Beavers fan weary with the cutesy “we do more with less” pitch, you’ll like this too.
There’s power in the pen.
But we’ve also had Pat Casey on this campus for how many years? And we’ve chosen to follow his model how often?
>But we’ve also had Pat Casey on this campus for how many years? And we’ve chosen to follow his model how often?
That’s a great point however, if the leadership at the top, and I think Dr. Ray has set the tone pretty well, finally takes on that attitude, we may see real change. Even somebody as willful as Coach Casey trying to battle Decarolis and Riley with their ‘lovable loser’ routine, could find it tough to cut through that noise. Football drives the bus and I think Riley was a pure cancer of bad attitude and lowered expectations.
It’s really bizarre to see Oregon pulling some of the same bullshit, talking about how tough it it to recruit to Eugene, how the airport is too far away, etc. That’s on Helfrich and I think if Rob Mullens got anything right, it’s to end that before it becomes ingrained in their message and culture. Chip Kelly wouldn’t have even let that be a thing but Helfrich, like Rley, was such a pussy he allowed that loser mentality to flourish.
I hope the new AD, along with Andersen, can create a strong message and a strong brand that we play sports at a high level and don’t settle for excuses.
To be clear, Casey isn’t about the talk. He’s about doing what’s necessary to keep an advantage that he himself created. So the model to follow would be how he worked to upgrade the program (almost on his own) in a way that complimented his methods. That meant improving facilities and continuously evolving his recruiting methods.
It’s always been simple enough to say the words. But walking the talk takes work. I suspect that work is why previous incarnations of OSU liked to hide behind the narrative void of that talk, let alone the walk.
Taggart interview.
http://pac-12.com/live/university-oregon
Lol, they say they want substance over style and then their intro/presentation is all about flash.
There’s no way they can get way from the flash as long as PK runs that joint.
I missed it…was Taggert flashy or just how the school presented the intro?
Rumor is Brady Hoke is going to be fired or let go.
Maybe the food services people were late to work today because of road conditions, and he’s just wandering the streets because the buffet table isn’t set up yet.
“wandering the streets” looking for the buffet?…….Naw, pretty sure he has Schnell’s cell number, problem solved!
Looking at pics of food may make him wander more.
If Brennan offered a job to Baldwin I wouldn’t be surprised if he bailed out. The way his demotion was handled last year has to sting so if he’s anything like me and I had a chance to bail I’d say FU to Andersen and leave.
… and go back to a program that demoted him even more than GA did here.
For less money in a place with double the cost of living.
And the fishing sucks too.
Demoted? As in “fired his ass”, correct?
The points you guys are bringing up are right on target. An act like this would probably qualify as cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
However……. If he’s got any brains he’s already salted away his retirement money and is set…. so if San Jose State would have him and if the salary was “reasonable” and especially if he could fuck up OSU’s recruiting then this would be a FU that would be worth considering for the fucking over he got from Andersen. Hopefully it’s obvious I’m speaking as though I were in his shoes.
From my perspective I think he and the QB coach should both have already been fired from the OSU staff.
JMO
Understand your point. However, that’s making the assumption Baldwin is upset with what went down. In reality, it could’ve been his idea to take a step back and give the youngsters McGiven and Woods the title in order to ensure we retain them as coaches and not get into another Sitake situation this year. I don’t believe he had to take a pay cut, so he might be one very well paid insider receivers coach who also advises on the offense.
Baldwin is getting up there close to retirement age. He’s coached all over as an assistant and head coach at multiple programs. It’s possible he could be happy with the pace of life in Corvallis, coaching with one of his best friends, and getting to just focus on coaching up players as well as coaching up coaches.
Not saying this is the case, but I wouldn’t assume that he’s all butt hurt and wants retribution.
I’ve harped too much here on Baldwin and the strange story surrounding his “demotion”. I’ll just leave it, for now, at………..I think there is a reasonable chance you are correct.
Thanks for the link, good to see the process advancing. I agree w/some of Canzano’s points (???) about changing the narrative and that the strength of OSU coaching in major sports – Casey, Rueck, Tinkle, Andersen – should be an attractant for a smart, experienced candidate, and that candidate needs to add to it and realize the potential of the AD.
After reading Scott Barnes’ bio I wouldn’t mind it a bit if he was hired as the new AD.
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/genrel/scott_barnes_976219.html
FINAL REGULAR SEASON NCAA FOOTBALL GAME GRADES
(these grade the team’s performance over the entire season vs their schedule.)
ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE – 88.73
[Atlantic Division – 90.49]
4. Louisville Cardinals 106.0
5. Clemson Tigers 103.4
11. Florida State Seminoles 97.4
29. NC State Wolf Pack 90.1
77. Wake Forest Demon Deacons 79.4
78. Boston College Eagles 78.8
81. Syracuse Orange 78.3
[Coastal Division – 86.97]
14. Miami FL Hurricanes 95.2
17. Virginia Tech Hokies 94.8
30. North Carolina Tar Heels 89.7
34. Pittsburgh Panthers 88.8
61. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 83.7
68. Duke Blue Devils 82.0
95. Virginia Cavaliers 74.6
PACIFIC-12 CONFERENCE – 88.64
[North Division – 89.30]
6. Washington Huskies 102.5
15. Washington State Cougars 94.9
24. Stanford Cardinal 91.2
53. California Golden Bears 85.0
67. Oregon Ducks 82.1
72. Oregon State Beavers 80.1
[South Division – 87.98]
7. Colorado Buffaloes 99.9
8. USC Trojans 99.4
32. Utah Utes 89.4
50. UCLA Bruins 85.3
84. Arizona Wildcats 77.5
88. Arizona State Sun Devils 76.4
BIG 12 CONFERENCE – 88.20
8. Oklahoma Sooners 99.6
18. West Virginia Mountaineers 93.2
25. Oklahoma State Cowboys 90.7
30. TCU Horned Frogs 90.1
31. Kansas State Wildcats 89.8
33. Texas Longhorns 89.3
35. Baylor Bears 88.8
51. Texas Tech Red Raiders 85.3
65. Iowa State Cyclones 82.9
102. Kansas Jayhawks 72.3
SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE – 87.43
[West Division – 92.24]
1. Alabama Crimson Tide 111.2
10. LSU Tigers 97.5
12. Auburn Tigers 97.3
38. Texas A&M Aggies 87.7
43. Mississippi Rebels 86.7
57. Arkansas Razorbacks 84.4
70. Mississippi State Bulldogs 80.9
[East Division – 82.61]
27. Florida Gators 90.4
52. Tennessee Volunteers 85.3
60. Georgia Bulldogs 83.8
64. Missouri Tigers 82.9
69. Kentucky Wildcats 81.4
76. Vanderbilt Commodores 79.5
93. South Carolina Gamecocks 75.0
BIG TEN CONFERENCE – 86.61
[East Division – 89.50]
2. Ohio State Buckeyes 108.6
3. Michigan Wolverines 106.5
14. Penn State Nittany Lions 95.3
47. Indiana Hoosiers 86.0
58. Michigan State Spartans 84.2
79. Maryland Terrapins 78.4
115. Rutgers Scarlet Knights 67.5
[West Division – 83.73]
13. Wisconsin Badgers 96.9
44. Northwestern Wildcats 86.5
45. Nebraska Cornhuskers 86.3
49. Iowa Hawkeyes 85.7
54. Minnesota Golden Gophers 84.7
98. Illinois Fighting Illini 73.6
101. Purdue Boilermakers 72.4
FBS INDEPENDENTS – 82.63
22. Notre Dame Fighting Irish 91.5
39. BYU Cougars 87.5
51. Army West Point Black Knights 85.4
119. Massachusetts Minutemen 66.1
AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE – 82.15
[West Division – 84.37]
20. Houston Cougars 91.9
35. Tulsa Golden Hurricane 88.6
41. Memphis Tigers 87.0
49. Navy Midshipmen 85.8
85. SMU Mustangs 77.0
91. Tulane Green Wave 75.9
[East Division – 79.93]
23. Temple Owls 91.6
40. USF Bulls 87.2
71. UCF Knights 80.7
86. East Carolina Pirates 77.0
96. Cincinnati Bearcats 74.2
112. Connecticut Huskies 68.9
MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE – 77.21
[Mountain Division – 82.27]
28. Boise State Broncos 90.2
62. Colorado State Rams 83.6
63. Air Force Falcons 83.5
73. New Mexico Lobos 79.8
80. Utah State Aggies 78.3
81. Wyoming Cowboys 78.2
[West Division – 72.15]
46. San Diego State Aztecs 86.0
104. UNLV Rebels 71.6
107. San Jose State Spartans 70.6
111. Hawai’i Rainbow Warriors 69.0
113. Nevada Wolf Pack 68.5
116. Fresno State Bulldogs 67.2
MID-AMERICAN CONFERENCE – 75.33
[West Division – 80.58]
22. Western Michigan Broncos 91.7
33. Toledo Rockets 88.9
82. Northern Illinois Huskies 77.7
87. Eastern Michigan Eagles 76.5
89. Central Michigan Chippewas 76.0
100. Ball State Cardinals 72.7
[East Division – 70.07]
88. Ohio Bobcats 76.4
94. Miami OH Redhawks 74.7
108. Kent State Golden Flashes 69.4
110. Akron Zips 69.0
114. Bowling Green Falcons 68.4
127. Buffalo Bulls 62.5
CONFERENCE USA – 72.68
[East Division – 72.79]
20. WKU Hilltoppers 91.9
74. Old Dominion Monarchs 79.7
75. Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders 79.5
117. FIU Panthers 66.7
121. Charlotte 49ers 65.3
124. Marshall Thundering Herd 63.7
126. Florida Atlantic Owls 62.7
[West Division – 72.57]
49. Louisiana Tech Bulldogs 85.8
66. Southern Miss Golden Eagles 82.3
99. UTSA Roadrunners 72.9
118. North Texas Mean Green 66.3
122. UTEP Miners 64.9
125. Rice Owls 63.2
SUN BELT CONFERENCE – 71.58
56. Appalachian State Mountaineers 84.5
62. Troy Trojans 83.4
94. Arkansas State Red Wolves 74.7
97. Georgia Southern Eagles 74.2
101. UL Lafayette Ragin’ Cajuns 72.3
102. Idaho Vandals 72.2
106. South Alabama Jaguars 71.5
109. Georgia State Panthers 69.1
120. New Mexico State Aggies 65.9
123. ULM Warhawks 63.9
128. Texas State Bobcats 55.7