Our only hope is the “Edwards Factor”, which is not unlike the Riley factor.
In reality, another Saturday spent rooting against the Ducks for Beav fans.
38-21 ASU
Our only hope is the “Edwards Factor”, which is not unlike the Riley factor.
In reality, another Saturday spent rooting against the Ducks for Beav fans.
38-21 ASU
Give ‘me hell Beavs!!!!
Second……I try harder.
Frost has Neb looking like Riley adopted the Quack offense.
With the Banker D….
Beavs win
Maybe?
But how?
I don’t see a scenario where they win. Blount is going to be running for his life all night and Sun Devil stadium is going to be loud.
GoBeavs…
How long has it been since the Beavs pulled a true upset? Almost got one against Stanford until Nall’s fumble. I’d like to see one before I die!
been a while but the good news is the rest of the games this season are all upset chances… the advantage of being the bottom dweller, every win is an upset.
no pac-12 game on until 3:00 is messed up. Games on Friday night? Pac 12 is turning into the MAC.
Agree got home a few hours ago and wanted to watch a game. Nada.
The Big 12 and ACC play Friday games too.
As for the 3 pm thing, 2 games are in AZ who typically plays late, 3 others are ranked teams playing each other so it makes sense that TV would want them in prime time. The only game that might have made sense at noon was WSU vs Utah.
I am surprised Oregon vs Cal isn’t on a little earlier but berthing else makes sense.
B1G does a few as well. The blue bloods got a pass. They refused to give up home Saturdays.
Is anyone here a member over at beaversedge? It seems like Mike Singer has an update about Addison Gumbs but has only shared it with their member message board.
97 degrees at kickoff. You all know what they say about hot Arizona weather, it’s a dry loss.
The Beavs should put up some points tonight, unfortunately not enough. My thinking is that we’ve seen all the wins this season….I guess that should be singular.
Pettibonehead says a “dry loss”, does that mean all the bars are closed?
Hey now, I’m rooting against the ducks but I’m also rooting for Tree to beat Notre Dame. Because fuck Notre Dame.
Hate both of those teams, but I guess have to root for ND.
Boo
Even the Pope hates Notre Dame.
The pope is a Penn State fan.
Utah Cougs it.
It should be “quacked it” after their epic Alamo Bowl and Stanford meltdowns. Those were chokes for the ages.
Holed it.
I feel like I’m watching out of some weird sense of duty or habit tonight. Pretty unexcited.
Defer? Again?
The turnover chainsaw actually being functional worries me with our lack of ball security
No chain.
And city kid was trying to rev it with the brake on.
Thank goodness!
We’re losing to Herm Edwards…
Is that so bad? I mean, he didn’t exactly tear it up in the NFL, but it’s not like he’s some horrible coach.
He’s terrible.
Already missing assignments….great.
Blount has to recognize that blitz, it was not hidden at all. Hot route to the slot receiver would of been an easy first down and Blount is looking the opposite way. Just terrible
Tackle, guard and center blocking only the dt and d-end. Tackle should have had him. That’s on the center for not calling out the assignments or the tackle for not recognizing it.
Disagree, line slanted right, that blitzer is the ‘hot’ defender. That’s on the QB to read.
Center made the wrong call, jefferson jumped to the center to pick up a possible middle blitz, and everyone did slant right, incorrectly. The tackle literally touched no one on that play, it should have been picked up. 6 rushers 6 blockers.
Fine
The blitz was still obvious
The WR still ran a hot route
Blount has to see that blitz and hit that receiver
Even if it’s because the line made the wrong call, it’s still an easy 1st down with a QB that has any awareness at all
Blount just doesn’t have the awareness. Too many games now.
How bad is Willard to not be able to get in a game?
I’m staring at our linebackers for the rest of the game. The fact that we get SMASHED on the ground game after game is their fault, and I want to see what exactly they’re doing.
That 40 yard TD run, our MLB ran outside of the tackle for some reason, and the RB just ran into the 5 gap. And then broke two crappy tackles.
flailbacker U
On that sack, the LG hit his man, and then ignored him while he just ran by and smashed Blount. Great.
And he got a talkin’ to by Sumner!
I’m not trying to be too positive here, but I think it’s clear Smith is better than GA.. Now you have to be incredibly better to just be average, so it’s to be determined.. But man…. Smith inherited about zero talent on the O-line or anywhere on defense.. The defense is shockingly bad.
Absolutely agree. WR and RB has talent, and that is about it. Nobody could succeed with that. I hope we are hammering the JC transfer scene; you could start on day 1!!!
I would like to see a drive break down for Nevada, Arizona, and now Arizona State. Blount is responsible for leading probably just 2 touchdowns on 20 to 30 drives. The offense just has had zero momentum. Entire first half of Nevada (all Blount) ALL game against Arizona, and now this game.
Well he sucks, so…
ASU is about to get over confident.. We keep trying this strategy week after week.. It hasn’t worked in a couple years but tonight’s the night
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1046229494238007297
I’d really like to know. We have to be on pace…
No, even this year…..UConn is giving up 7 yards per rush. The Beavs are shitty, but not on a historical level yet, although there is still plenty of season yet.
5 of the last 6 plays have been runs up the middle.
I cant believe choker made that.
Stanford gets smashed by Notre Dame so the pac 12 is already out of BCS playoff contention
Just watching those replays, Blount is getting hit basically within his first 1-2 reads. That’s HORRIFIC line play.
Don’t pass, just run
Or how about a screen?
folks, your pac 12 player of the week!
It’s back to 1978. It will take years to become competitive again.
I don’t know if it’s statistically the worst defense of all time but it’s easily the worst tackling team of all time.. Embarrassing
It’s just embarrassing. The LBs are either completely out of position or get stuck on blocks. They are NEVER making plays, ever. There’s a reason Moore has to make so many tackles.
That was TWO diving leg tackles, by LBs that both failed. WTF.
The way the linebackers look afraid to tackle, I wonder if they are intentionally not getting off blocks.
To slow to react and they miss when they get there. Defense is an absolute mess. It’s going to be a long season.
The tackling is pathetic.
Some of these players are falling down instead of meeting the ball carrier. They look like they are hoping to trip the guy. They look scared to play the game. If someone is too scared to play then they shouldn’t play. I can’t see a reason to be allowed back on the field if you don’t have any personal pride.
This is in humane, need to cancel rest of games and just practice the rest of the year scrimmage on Saturdays.
Down 24. Playing third string QB. Someone please hide that stupid turnover chainsaw.
Hamilcar Rasheed just missed a tackle behind the line that turned into a TD. Andrez Hughes Murray incorrectly read a pass option to allow the previous TD. These D-ends supposed to be are tibesars specialty, maybe he isn’t that good of a coach
Hope that’s just a cramp
Hopefully, he’s our best player. Didn’t seem in pain, so that’s a good sign.
Also, that was a pretty great play call on the flea flicker. And Blount threw a perfect ball.
Fuck. Hodgins may have housed that one.
Keep pounding the ball.
Fucks up his hammy by running? You’ve got to be kidding me, every time you think it can’t egret any worse something else
Its 95 degrees and 0% humidity, cramps happen.
But it’s a dry cramp..
Jefferson is the real deal
Fact.
The defense did a thing!!!
Also, why is Hernandez our returner? I like sure hands and all, but he’s not exactly a speed demon.
how has osu not violated an ncaa rule on having too many guys on the roster with the same first name (isaiah)?
Instead of a turnover chainsaw we should just have a tackle chainsaw.. Anytime a player makes a solo tackle they get to go over to the sideline and rev the chainsaw up.. Should only have to gas it up once the season
Good one. Perhaps the fact it lacks a chain is appropriately metaphorical….
Sounds like the O play calling is pretty good. I like ike the ability to vary tempo and play quickly (just had a 7 yard run on third and short) strategically.
Maybe the RBs and WRs can play defense too…
TOUCHDOWN!!!
How is this a game?
Few teams play defense anymore?
We scored too soon… Damn
President Jefferson! 20 carries, 142 yards, 2 tds so far…
Making me eat my words. Two great drives.
QBs can’t be touched.
The dude sprints off for 22 yards one play, then scrambles around in the backfield for 10 seconds, but if you hit him one second after he throws the ball, that’s a penalty. Just insane.
I’m not saying I hope it happens… But if Wilkins gets his front teeth knocked out with one snap buttoned on his chin strap and chewing on his mouth guard sideways I *will* laugh.
We have one INT in 4 games. The number of INTs we’ve dropped is comical.
That seems like at least 5 from Moore alone.
Beavs lead the country in defenders dropping picks
Tisebar taking a cue from Ali’s rope-a-dope…going to let Benjamin exhaust himself by running for so many yards….
We lead the country in opposing teams setting team and personal records
Dropped interception is a killer there.
What’s Cory Hall’s buy out?
Down vote all you want Alice. These exact same secondary players didn’t suck shit like this last year.
I downvoted because I remember how the Cory Hall “era” ended! Plus bringing back any Anderpants staff leaves a bad taste in my mouth. *burp* :-x
Someone on defense needs to step up and make a play. This team has got to be the leader in dropped interceptions.
And Williams misses his man for a WIDE OPEN TD AGAIN. Just like last week.
Thank god he’s a senior. The fact that he’s a senior and I don’t remember him before this season says a lot.
A freshman all American had his job. Wish he still did.
I thought they’ve been practicing tackling?! All I see is poor angles and whiffs. Ugh. Painful to watch.
Blount 8 for 11 in the half. Kids got guts, maybe some on D need to take a cue.
Jermar Jefferson is the sole ray of light in the abyss that is this football program.
+Bradford and Hodgins. And Blount like 60% of the time, which makes him our best QB in like 4 years.
+AP is a bad motherfucker.
Liking the fact Jefferson got 20 carries and the coaching staff maintains balance instead of abandoning the run game and just airing it out.
It sounds like the team is not quitting on this game or the coaching staff…
Maybe Moore can spend 30 minutes a day with the WR coaches and WRs….learn how to catch.
ASU running back with 185 yds in first half. Most ever in a half for an ASU RB.
Coach Smith!
“We gotta be able to TACKLE somebody!”
Love him.
Whatchu talkin’ ’bout, Smithy?
“We gotta be able to TACKLE someone to GET ‘EM OFF THE FIELD”
Coach Smith sounds a bit peeved
Togia not game ready.
Has togiai done a single productive thing since coming back, besides not blocking anyone?
Togai done anything good since coming back other than missed blocks and holding calls?
Togiai
He definitely had some emphasis on the word “tackle” which is nice I guess?? Can the players actually do it is the question
Hodgins and Moore are the only two defenders who have made plays tonight.
And…pass interference by Moore. Cool.
ASU averaging 10+ yards per run. Lol
Awesome the team deferred to the second half so they could shoot out of the locker room revved up, churning out a -7 yard drive.
The defense will do 2 things right then 1 thing wrong, and that 1 thing costs them everytime.
It’s weird, I know the stats say we’ve run like 20 times, passed like 15, but I honestly only remember like 2 passes.
Jefferson has been great but we have two stud young receivers, can we try getting them the ball?
Can’t pass to the WRs when you can’t pass block.. Keep running it
Great job by Blount there avoiding the rush after a terrible snap and keeping his head up.. Blount would be a decent QB if the line could block at all
Agreed. Particularly with Pierce/Jefferson to keep defenses honest and the balanced play calling from the O coordinator.
I would love it if Smith could pull another D1 transfer to provide quality competition and depth next year.
The difference in Blount this week is he’s stepping up in the pocket instead of running backwards.
Man blount is fighting for his life out there, nice play on that TD
I don’t understand the Blount hate. He’s not a game changing QB, but he’s a solid game manger. If he’s the backup next year that’s solid.
Agreed. Blount isn’t great but he’s a legit Pac12 QB.
Who is getting destroyed by his bad line like every 5th play, which severely limits the playbook, which severely limits our perception of his value.
Blount has, for the most part, not been the problem for this team.
I don’t know what a QB can do when there appeared to be no plan to pick up ASU’s blitz package. I kept waiting for three step drops and slants to the slots or quick hits to the tight ends.
Kase Rogers needed to redshirt, very bad.
Rogers looks very rough every time he touches the ball.
Our defense has no animal instinct. They should be lighting up Williams when he runs, but he’s making them look like a bunch of pee wees out there!
Looks like Jefferson already has 714 yards and 8 TDs in 4 and 3/4 games….
The ASU RB may get that in this game.
That’s one where they should have run it on 3rd down from the 1 or 2 yard line
Redemption time for the secondary….somebody has to come up with an INT, even if by accident…
Tackled before the ball hit him.
I like Smith going for it there.. If the D was better I would take the points but FGs aren’t going to get it done.. Blount had Timmy if he throw the ball low to the outside.. He was on the run though.. Tough play.
Theyre celebrating the great defensive play by Chase Lucas on Hernandez to deny the TD, but he tackeled Hernandez before the ball arrived. Beavs robbed on that one
#7 doesn’t want to tackle.. He shouldn’t be on the field.. He literally is avoiding contact so he doesn’t have to get on the ground.
LB update; both ran straight into blocks as Benjamin run for 15.
omg I am SO GLAD Harry got tackled for a 4 yard loss. That’s what happens when you just run sideways over and over.
And then they throw the fade to Harry, who stiff-arms the defender before almost making the catch. No call.
And then Benjamin runs it for 10 and the TD. Didn’t see the LBs on that one, but to be fair, neither did he.
Jefferson would run for 500 yards against our D.
Another “historic night” for the opposing RB
Did Smith hire the wrong D coordinator or is there really that much of a talent disparity between our O and D? The O can at least can compete at this level.
Before the season I was certain Tibs was the right guy and the D would keep the Beavs in several games this season. Not the first mistake I’ve made.
Time will tell, however. Injuries/depth cannot be ignored when evaluating Tibs performance.
I’m not sure if Tibesar is the right hire. I am certain of two things:
1: The secondary, that while not great last year, is now shit.
2: I’d tell Aydon that if he weighs an ounce over 340#, don’t bother to show up for camp in the spring.
Anyone remember a flag against Arizona State?
Nope. That was DEFINITELY a PI too.
Can u bring in 11 JC transfers in one year?
Fucking embarrassing
Nice to see Sperm Edwards has class.
I wonder if receivers that good get pouty if they don’t get a receiving td each game?
I may switch to DirectTV to not have to see another StateFarm commercial.
You won’t have to see as many Beaver games either since there is no P-12 Network contract!
God… are you right! How much more money does Aaron Rogers really need?
The timeout savings secretly continues.
Our defense acts like they’re trying to be gentle with the opposing players. It’s just so strange. Nobody flys to the ball, nobody knocks anyone off their feet when they tackle. Is this part of the new heads-up tackling method they’re teaching kids these days? It looks like flag football!
I would down vote that too, it’s ridiculous.
Reference ASU final touchdown of the night. Literally patty caked and pushed into the end zone.
Reason to remain optimistic:
The defense is clearly the biggest problem and its clear the coaches understand this since 8 out of 11 commits are defenders. Clearly they need to get some JC talent in but its clear to me that they’ve identified the weakness and made a plan to fix it.
Reason to be pessimistic:
The offensive line is probably the 2nd biggest hole and so far they have added nothing to that group.
Beavs gave up 5 sacks and 11 tfl and Moore lead the team in tackles again. But it was easier to watch than last week because the offense did some good things.
Any promising JC centers out there? A few other O lineman to add next year?
The tackling was horrendous. Is that a matter of strength, technique or desire? It happened on damn near every play.
Seriously. They looked like children trying to bring down grown men.
Kids at least can grab on to a leg. You’re dissing children.
If the D was just average this would be a fun team to watch.
Worst D I can remember since Paul Wulf’s WSU teams.
Brady Hoke’s duck defense lost to Gary Andersen’s Beavs.
JS has a better record than Scott Frost. So we got that going for us.
And Chip Kelly. I guess we do rock!
More wins than both of them combined!
So… Is this what Nebraska’s linebackers looked like last year?
Yes and they might be worse this year.
This D has the potential to be the worst in the not so illustrious history of Oregon State football.
That is not an easy achievement. “Beaver Damn.”
Did anyone catch that stat at the beginning of the telecast ….if I was understanding correctly, the D gives up 4 plus yards per play BEFORE the ball carrier is contacted! WTF? Amazingly, that was only 3rd worse in the nation, but that may have changed after last nights cluster!
I saw that. Bend and break D. Revolutionary!
That was hard to watch. Our front seven is incapable of shedding a block and it’s rare that the tackler squares up on the runner. My kingdom for a Dwan Edwards, Scott Crichton, Inoke Brecterfield, Delawrance Grant… (I won’t even go into some of the past linebackers).
You think if you have a RB run for 230+ you would at least be competitive.
The positive is that Jefferson on any other team would be a heismen candidate and we have some good receivers. Bad news is everything else.
At least I got to watch my Anaheim Ducks beat the LA Queens last night. I just wish Anaheim had a different animal chosen as a name / mascot.
Sort of obscure, but it reminds me of some bad Iowa St teams in the 90’s that had a Heisman quality running back….Davis? He would rush for a ton of yards and they would get beat 49-24.
Not super impressed with Rogers as RB. And it seems in the last couple games Jefferson would move the ball down to the goal line and then they’d pull his for Rogers. Don’t get that. Jefferson is definitely our best option so why pull him when we are right there? I think my other glimmer of hope is our offensive calling is good overall but I haven’t been impressed with our goal line calling.
Brilliant strategy to get Leach aka Aunt Patty overconfident. Maybe he cancels a practice or two this week, lets them eat all the pizza they want at training table, cancels curfew. Plays right into our hands…. baw..ha..ha!!
Is it just me or does recruiting seem much quieter this year?
Is it because they’ve already got 11 commits and don’t have a ton of space (only 15 seniors if my count is correct) so they are being very selective at this point?
Is it because they are changing their focus to JC guys which tend to get less press?
Is it because they are having a difficult time getting kids to commit?
The last commitment they got was in July. That just seems odd to me.
I really hope they have their sights on some JC/transfer defensive players, and maybe another QB.
I’m rapidly losing confidence in Bray as a linebackers coach. I won’t be surprised if Tibesar comes out with an “I’m going to be helping out more with the linebackers in practice” statement. Basically meaning that he’s taking over coaching them because Bray can’t get it done.
Bray sucked at NE, too. Their LBs were one of the worst units on the team.
“Take a Beaver off it.”
Personally unless a high quality QB (like Johnson Jr. having a change of heart for instance) comes available I’d rather not use a scholarship on a QB this year.
Assuming no one transfers they will still have 5 QBs on the roster next season including a solid backup in Blount (assuming Gebbia is PAC level which I think he is). I say let the other 3 battle for the #3 spot (betting Moore wins out). I’d even be fine with 1 of those 3 transferring (and could see Colletto going the FCS route). That said, I’d definitely seek a developmental walk on QB.
I think scholarships need to be used on defense and the offensive line at this point. I did count 13 returning offensive lineman so maybe they think they can get a quality group out of that with this year of development but I still think adding a couple more should happen.
Anyone know how many scholarships they have available for 2019?
Gebbia looks like the real deal on the film I saw…with Blount as #2 that’s solid improvement in the QB situation for 1 year. Still wouldn’t mind another guy. Willard and Colletto don’t look legit. Who is the 5th guy? Dukart left…
Nick Moore.
Not saying I wouldn’t want another guy but don’t see the need to use a scholarship on another back up level player at QB in 2019 given the numbers and youth of the group they already have. Too many needs at other spots.
I like Moore’s film. I think he was under recruiting because he’s relatively small (6′ 180 lbs) but he looks like he knows what he is doing.
Probably got lots of advice from Matt over the years, he seems like the type that would spend 2-3 years on the bench and then surprise everyone with a big senior year if he got the chance.
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4144923/Nick-Moore
At what point do you decide to redshirt Pierce? Seems like sitting him till the last 2 games makes sense at this stage.
That’s a valid question. At this point I don’t see any kind of defensive adjustments making this team competitive. I’d say just ride JJ and let some of the other backs have some touches for game experience. If AP is 100% at the end of the season then let him get back in to the swing of things so JJ can get some rest. Dude’s on a historic pace already.
You’d definitely need to make sure Pierce is on board with the move.
And of course it also brings up the possibility that Pierce leaves after 2019 to go pro or as a grad transfer either way so maybe you just use him. I still think I’d gamble on getting that extra year out of him if he’s open to the idea.
Could be a 2 headed monster for a couple seasons with the right offensive strategy.
Press conference. Some frustration showing through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPqq2PkGEDs
Already? Took GA like 6 games before he mentally checked out.
(Haven’t watched it yet, so taking your word he’s frustrated).
He’s frustrated, not mentally checked out.
If he were not frustrated we’d certainly have the wrong guy. (eg: a Riley clone!)
I like what he’s focused on there: things he and the team can control. Some of the media point to personnel deficiencies, which might help, but not this season. So often in replays last night you see beavs in position to make the tackle, but they hesitate and Benjamin jukes and burns them.
“But they hesitate” exactly what i was seeing. Its like they are waiting for a collision instead of making the hit.
Ugh, the audio with that press conference made it sound like whoever was holding the Iphone was taking a dump the whole time and really laboring with it. Weird heavy breathing.
Didnt think Smith sounded checked out or anything like that. I think he’s just confused like we with how terrible his defense can be when it comes to making the play and actually tackling somebody.
Funny thing to me is this team really wouldn’t ne out of most of these games if the defense was just servicable. But since they’re so brutally terrible at forcing a punt, we’re left with lopsided scores.
Defense cam only get better next year with the return of some key injured players as well as some incoming transfers(Roberrts/Gumbs) and recruits. This year will be tough to watch, but I think we will see a more competitve team next season.
Maybe still barely a bubble bowl team, but at least a step in the right direction.
https://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/407771-306596-asu-outguns-outruns-beavers-in-offensive-spectacle
Eggers with quotes from Jefferson and Blount. Both saying the right things; Blount backing the OL and taking responsibility, Jefferson deflecting kudos and focusing on the loss.
WSU advised to run against Beavs, beavs woeful D highlighted:
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/cougars-may-try-handing-off-the-football-when-it-plays-oregon-state/
Damn, now everyone knows we can’t defend the run. Was hoping we could keep that a secret.
If they find out about the pass defense we might be in trouble.
I wandered into a bunch of YouTube rugby matches earlier tonight — most featuring the All Blacks from New Zealand. We used to live there and became rugby fans. Anyway, watching the running and tackling made me think that perhaps we need to recruit some 17 year old Kiwis who have been playing rugby since they were in the “under 9” sides and bloody well know how to tackle.
Hi Mike….. Thanks so much for helping me get this great job. Living in Omaha is much better than Florida. How are things in Corvallis? Are you working your magic with the Beavers? Best…Scott.
PS: Where, exactly, is that fully stocked cupboard your left behind? I’ve looked everywhere. All I found was a case of Juicy Fruit.
In reading the comments it really seems like people are bashing the secondary. I don’t know that they are amazing but to me they seem like they are the best unit on the defense (again not saying a ton). But given enough time any secondary will get shredded. I haven’t seen every minute of every game but the few sacks I have seen were clearly caused by the secondary not letting anyone get open. Sure there have been a lot of completions but that is what good QB’s do against even the best secondaries when they have time to throw especially against a secondary that will bite on almost any play action because of the fact that they are needed more often than not to make tackles after the D-Line misses tackles then the linebackers don’t even miss tackles cause they aren’t even capable of shedding blocks to get near the ball carrier. Jalen Moore seems solid to me, he has a good feel for the game, sure I wish his hands were better and he’d have a couple picks but the actually awareness of where the ball is is a trait that is often foreign with college safeties.
Jeromy Reichner is said by Tibesar to be pretty good and could be back this week. His presence on the D-line will make a big difference for this D overall.
I don’t know that Reichner is a difference maker going forward, but will be nice to have another body to rotate throughout games. I think he was more of a stop gap type scholarship at a position of need, who comes with the added bonus of helping us secure one of our better 2019 commitments
When the secondary is getting burned on post routes in Cover 2 formation on third and long, there’s serious problems.
Wait until you see our prevent D.
Ole’?
It is just scary to me that our defense starts getting torched in the run game and there is seemingly no adjustments… the trickle of blood continues into full on bleeding out. I know we lack talent on defense but I’m really starting to questions the coaching on the defensive side of the ball.
To me it seems like the Beav D could at least sell out to Blitz (similar to ASU) — ASU is either second or leads the PAC in sacks. Sure ASU gives up a lot of yards through the air, but the ROI is increased sacks/fumbles, and third-long. This team has none of that.