Not a football signing but we picked up a WBB Commitment, Jelena Mitrovic. Beat out ASU, Iowa, and Rutgers for her. All top 25 programs. 2019 class is huge!
That is freaking huge news! Check out her recruiting video. She is an awesome passer, runs the floor extremely well and has great hands. She’s going to be a solid player for the Beavs. WOW!
“Sio is big, physical, and especially athletic as he moves very well for a man his size” beaversedge write up. Makes me chuckle since this guy only got one offer.
The only true thing is he’s big. Sio is a major major project. A lot of things need to go right for him to pay off. 1. Needs to improve his conditioning tenfold to play in the up tempo game. 2. Needs to diet. 330 is too heavy. Should be around 295ish. 3. Needs to reshape his body to carry his weight better and gain athleticism. He’s top heavy so he can really only go one direction. Smaller faster guys can just run around him. 4. He’ll have to adjust to a higher level of competition.
He is plenty strong so that won’t ever be an issue.
With all these things he needs to work on, it’s unlikely we’ll see him for a while on the field. The upside doesn’t appear to be high. Hopefully he is motivated by only getting one offer to put in the necessary work.
@Bill, did your fitness change at all between the ages of 16-25 when you learned about healthy eating, regular exercise, etc? I see him doing a lot of the things you mention when he will basically have a year with professionals nutritionists and trainers to help him make these changes. I made these changes without pros but just the access to a gym etc while in college. Give the kid a chance!
I don’t recall this much attention on preferred walkons ever. Hopefully some of these guys pan out. Honestly, some of them look better than some of the late offers from years before, so maybe there are a couple decent players in there.
Presser was pretty ho-hum. I’m sure there will be video to link later.
Mentioned Kee Whetzel will be moved to the secondary.
Only 3 guys out with injury for Spring Ball (I didn’t catch all the names, but Calvin Tyler, Simon Sandberg were 2 of them)
Spring game is 3rd Saturday in April and will be up at Mountain View HS up the Portland West suburbs.
Smith had a sly smile when asked about the transfer portal and if he anticipates adding any more players from there. He didn’t say anything specific but said we could still do that, or something to that effect. Said he expected more transfer portal questions than he was asked.
Smith also said he thinks we’re pretty much done with this class, although there is some wiggle room if needed.
When asked about potential transfers leaving OSU and if there are any more coming, he didn’t specifically answer that either, but smiled a little and said they only want guys who want to be here to stay on the team, so he welcomes anybody who doesn’t fit that category to find their way. Basically saying, “please leave OSU, so I can sign up more transfers.”
JS seemed to be annoyed with the media keep going back to the QB situation between Jake Luton and Tristan Gebbia. He kept giving the same answer in a different way when asked. He was polite about it, but you could tell he wished they would ask more questions in regards to the players they got yesterday. I’m curious about Paul Chryst’s nephew at QB. It appears that JS was able to get guys to come in as PWO’s because he wasn’t going to take away scholarships from current players to give to incoming guys. With that said, practice hard, play hard, compete, and you will find yourself on the field or suiting up on Saturdays. Some of the players signed that are PWO’s I could see becoming scholarship players once players leave/graduate.
They have a body type and athletic type they are going after and aren’t deviating from it. Jake Cookus has been the primary in state recruiter and is passionate about getting Oregonian players to come to Oregon State who fit what they are looking for in a player. JS also mentioned that they take into account the level of competition, but don’t rule anyone out just because they are in a lower level division of high school ball nor that they aren’t on an elite team in their division/league. They look at the individual, not all 11 plus players they are surrounded by on their high school/JUCO team.
The more transfers we get the better. Many of the high schoolers in this class need to redshirt to get physically ready for D1 ball. If they can do this, I think the Beavs can go bowling in two seasons. Last season was essentially 3 wins and they struggled heavily on the lines.
I am hoping that OSU’s program will resemble Iowa’s or Wisconsin’s.
If we’re comparing B1G schools to model our program after right now I prefer Northwestern. They haven’t found lightning in a bottle and made another Rose Bowl run just yet, but the stability Pat Fitzgerald has found there over the last decade I feel is really remarkable, and relates to OSU’s situation in the PAC with JS more so than Iowa and Wiscy. They’ve been doing all the right things to stay competitive given their situation and so far I feel like JS is at least showing that he has a plan/model he’s trying to execute to do the same here. Whether or not it works remains to be seen but at least he’s sticking to it which is refreshing in itself after Anderpants.
2007 Pat Fitzgerald 6–6 3–5
2008 Pat Fitzgerald 9–4 5–3 L Alamo
2009 Pat Fitzgerald 8–5 5–3 L Outback
2010 Pat Fitzgerald 7–6 3–5 L TicketCity
2011 Pat Fitzgerald 6–7 3–5 L Meineke
2012 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 5–3 W Gator
2013 Pat Fitzgerald 5–7 1–7
2014 Pat Fitzgerald 5–7 3–5
2015 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 6–2 L Outback
2016 Pat Fitzgerald 7–6 5–4 W Pinstripe
2017 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 7–2
They tend to land 50-70 in the recruiting rankings, OSU is typically 10 or so spots ahead. They’ve brought in a total of three 4-star recruits combined over the last 5 years. They have a small fan base sandwiched geographically between some of college footballs giants. Ryan field maxes out at about 47,000 (same as Reser) and often times is half filled with visiting B1G fans. They can only recruit kids that can meet Northwesterns more rigorous admission standards.
They can’t draw more fans to games yet so they haven’t wasted money and only made incremental stadium improvements and have focused on team/training facilities instead. They can’t out recruit Mich/OhioSt or draw 4-star talent from outside their footprint, so they don’t try to, and have instead built their culture on high-iq 3-star recruits in a system meant to develop players over a number of years.
They match up well with our situation in the PAC but in some ways are even more disadvantaged. Yet, they’re winning at a 60% clip over a decade, have won 3 straight bowl games and played for a B1G championship.
So I think it’s a good model, if not totally apples-apples, just in how they’ve reacted to their situation without being in denial about it. I see JS behaving in the same way which is at least encouraging to me that he might find a similar path.
Adding to the NW comparison, I like that NW seems to pull off an upset or two each year and is in just about every game. Something the beavs were better at this year but still some games where halftime basically meant game over. I’d like to see us look like we belong on the same field as all opponents and crush some playoff dreams here and there (USC upsets at home back in the day).
More apples to apples NW education and OSU education. Basically the same right? I hope?
NW is private (8k undergrads) with prestigious med, law, and business schools (12k postgrads), sort of the Stanford of the midwest with high admission standards and low acceptance rate. So not really comparable so much in that sense. OSU is very underrated academically, but has a more traditional public school enrollment (25k under/5k post). Best university in Oregon though.
I think a big difference between OSU and northwestern is support from donors. Northwestern has several wealthy alumni that are very interested in transforming the athletics landscape at that school. Check out some of their recent facilities projects and you’ll see what I mean. Their fan base is all in and has deep pockets, while at OSU we’re more an extension of Mike Riley’s aw shucks demeanor when it comes to athletics.
Agreed, they have a lot of $, comes with the territory of being a rich person school, and their donors are showing up. Their new training facility on the lake is insane. I think I read something like $200+ million?
I don’t think the lack of donor support at OSU is very Riley mentality related but I get that sentiment as a suffering fan. It’s just that we don’t have the kind of deep pocketed donors that a school like NW or Stanford does, and the ones that we do have (Nvidia guy) don’t care about football.
I hope they can find a way to finish reser soon though, even though we can’t fill it. If you build it they will come, right?
Saw him block the last warriors shot of the 3rd quarter to prevent the warriors from scoring over 50 in the quarter. I guess that’s better than not blocking it
This is why I always side with the kid who “de-commits” when fans take cues from coaches about the whole morality bullshit line about how one’s word doesn’t count for anything anymore. The only power or leverage the kids hold are their bodies.
That being said, I don’t understand their numbers, or how they’re trying to make the numbers relevant to their argument. If all ~130 programs averaged 97 offers to fill an average of 12 ships per year over 8 years, and that total is increasing… what does that have to with how many offers are forwarded?
My intuition tells me the total number of kids who are offered is close to the number of kids who get ships. If there are 1500 ships available any given year, and programs offer a sliding range of players along any one of many meaningless arbitrary ranking systems (as is inferred when suggesting some schools offer to PSAs who are above their punching weight just for the buzz attached), then there will be overlap up and down that range. Coaches know who they want, and they offer. They get shot down a lot. They move on to PSAs who aren’t shooting them down. Life goes on.
If you don’t make an earnest effort to try to get your plan A PSAs, fail, then make an earnest effort to try to get your plan B guys… and so on… don’t come back to me with stories about how recruiting is hard.
I don’t really like the idea of having PSAs sign NLIs when they commit. I like the idea of coaches sending grants-in-aid for them to sign with a written offer, if they’re truly sincere. A limit would be placed on PSAs… of maybe five schools with which they could sign grants, for obvious reasons. And I would go so far as to make the grants void after each signing period, in order to reset the conversation. I also like the sunset clause of a month for said written offers. It gives the coaches and players a reason to re-issue their potential love for one another.
It seems fairly obvious that there are some programs that look at the recruiting rankings and throw an offer out to every 4 and 5 star kid. Interestingly enough many of those programs get high ranking recruiting classes but their team is in constant disarray. Hmmmm….
From the “Ya can’t keep a good man down” file: Bob Lundeberg announces that he will be putting out a podcast for something called ThatCast. If this thing lasts, look forward to some good reporting, especially during baseball season.
Nemec’s latest is an “editorial” blasting Beaver football recruiting. He even dumped on the transfers saying all but one (can’t remember which) have been downgraded to three stars by some site and should not be considered impact players now. You know who he works for, I won’t link it.
It was early, just meant physically they looked evenly matched. Mentally, another story. Beavs need to find some energy in the 2nd half. Stanford is scoring way too easily
What a fucking shit show. You steal two nice wins on the road last weekend and follow it up with this stinker?
Team was completely unprepared for a 4-5 team at home? This coaching staff sucks and won’t ever win anything of significance. I’m completely convinced of that now.
All one me. Went to the game with buddy and long time season ticket holder. My presence made the kids nervous having a living legend watching them, clinically evaluating their every move. It was either that or the goofy glasses, polyester slacks and white patent leather shoes, can’t be sure. They will bounce back against a bad Cal team. JB
…..first rule is — You Don’t Talk About Men’s Basketball — especially after two road wins….expectations up, they let us down….the women on the other hand…..
Hope I’m wrong but I believe this Stanford game will prove to be the beginning of the end for Coach Tinkle. We kinda, sorta knew that he wasn’t much of a recruiter but hopefully could make up for it on the Xs and Os side of things.
It’s becoming evident that’s a liability too, and once Tres and the Thompson Bros. show is done, things will likely go downhill quickly. Last night, against one of the truly mediocre teams in league, you have a ton of momentum and the ability to claim second place and THAT happens? You have two bigs (Kelley & G) who are among the best defensive players in conference and BOTH of Stanford’s post players end up having the best stat-lines of their careers? Oh, and one of Stanford’s most important players (Davis) only played 13 minutes due to injury.
Tres’ ability to become a basketball swiss army knife solves a lot of problems but the bigger issue is that very few players become any better than they were as freshmen while being coached by Tinkle’s staff. Stephen and Big G haven’t changed much at all (has Stevie been told there’s a weight room on campus?). Ethan seems like the same player as last year, but with more confidence. We can look at the potential of Kelley, Washington and Reichle and hope they’ll get better but this staff’s track record indicates that won’t happen.
Last year, I was told by a member of the athletic department that Coach Tinkle was really excited about Jack Wilson and he would be a “program-changing” recruit. Either he’s going to light the world on fire at Idaho or Wayne is a really poor judge of talent. History suggests the latter.
I was a big fan of Craig Robinson but surrendered hope when he couldn’t win with Nelson, Collier, Cunningham, Moreland, Burton, et al. I think we’ve reached that point again with Tinkle as coach. This is the best shot he’ll ever have and it ain’t happening.
The question is, how long is the end? 2 years is what I’m thinking unless they get some serious donar $$$ to buy him out. Not sure I trust Barnes to make the right hire. I realize they’re non-revenue sports but he’s done well with the women’s golf and men’s soccer hires so maybe there’s hope.
osu can’t afford to buyout his contract. I think his contract runs the 202-23 and buyout is 5-6m. For better or worse, he’s the guy unless someone steps up and throws 5-6m on the table.
The only thing positive I can come up for the WT era so far is that I guess he didn’t fuck up CR recruit GP-2. He has really shown zilch without GP-2 on the roster. I concur, he gets six years because of his son, otherwise it’s time to move on.
Luck O’ the Beavs scenario, they have a great season next year, TT graduates. WT gets a multi-year extension and then the bottom falls out of the program.
While their season doesn’t reflect the actual talent on the team, the dynamics will change next year. A quick look at the positive stats, and the leader in every category but boards and PPG is… Vernon. Ethan is second in FT% and 3%. Overall FG% is meh, with the bigs doing about average and the backcourt and swings doing less. Reichle is second in A/TO.
Ugh! A/TO is probably the best indicator of any of our outcomes. So many dropped balls….
Tres has picked it up for the conference slate, and Stevie has remained constant in numbers (but not from game to game).
Next year, we’ll have Ethan playing the correct position. And Vernon can probably scale his production with minutes. The real potential for next year will be how Washington matures, how Pritchard fits in, and how quickly Lucas can get up to speed.
Crazy how bad De La Hoya was kicking our ass last night. Wish his dad would’ve let him boxed instead but his dad has also taken some serious shots to the head from real fighters. Wake up punchy!
OSU basketball’s twitter account seems to be getting a little testy whenever people say something critical of the team eeking out the Cal win. Every response last night was a brief “We won.”
That’s funny. You kind of have to ignore the official site because it’s embarrassing PR bullshit anyway. Even in a loss they usually start out with some positive spin. I don’t know if all official college athletic sites are like that, but I would guess so. Maybe the MBB spin is worse because they have been chronic underachievers?
If anyone was paying attention, freaking WSU goes on the road to sweep the AZ schools so the Pac12 conference is anything but predictable this year. I don’t care who you beat, or by how much or whether it’s pretty or ugly….it’s a win and that’s better than a loss. Certainly, the Beavs did not play well this weekend but that’s part of the issue with the conference as nobody has been consistent except Washington. Heck, Utah comes back from a 22 point deficit to stun UCLA….if one things clear the conference is not very good and is very unpredictable.l
In what should be considered a partial rebuilding year for the Beavs with a new PG and new post player, the loss of Tudor and Thropay, it was a great win against a team with one of the best post players in the country and some exceptional outside shooters for California. The player that is starting to show glimpses of solid talent is Patricia Morris as she got a few boards and I think scored 6 points. If she can contribute over the last part of the season, that give the Beavs another big body going into post season. Thropay didn’t play today but was available so that should help too with another player available to play.
Destiny put the team on her shoulders but got major contributions from Pivec, Aleah, Grymek so it was a team effort. Beavs played very solid defense after getting down by 11 in the first half.
Games upcoming against Oregon….I think Oregon probably wins by 15-17 down at Oregon and the Beavs have a shot in Corvallis if they play solid defense and hit their shots. Oregon is an excellent team and it will be very, very tough.
I’ll be at court side in Corvallis so that should be fun.
Morris scored 7 in 7 minutes; as you said, team effort in a rebuilding season.
What will it take to get a W or 2 vs ucks? Excellent 3pt shooting will be mandatory, but is there a chance to get an uck or two into foul trouble? Beavs had 7 TO’s today, can’t let that go much higher and still beat the toilet seat crew.
Casey would use this as motivation. It will be interesting to see how Bailey differs in this area. Hoping the guys may play a little looser under Bailey without losing the Casey edge.
If anyone is interested in sponsorship for football, baseball, or m/w basketball I have a contact with Leerfield Sports who works with Beaver athletics. He is a local guy located at osu office in downtown Portland. Let me know if you want to get connected. Just a few more sponsorships and Reser will be completed ?.
The finishing Reser part was a joke. I need to improve upon my sarcasm over the interwebs. He is working on getting new sponsors though and they will bring awareness to the brand and the athletics.
I am noticing more ideas to get fans involved this year for example the names of students who have received their Beaver Dam tickets for the Civil War game coming up this weekend. Also, the events going on in Truax center. There have been discussions about doing things like this for some of the men’s and women’s basketball games. New sponsors will get new promotion ideas, some cool stuff in the works if he can get companies to sign on. Not easy with competing against other professional organizations in the state such as the Blazers. Some great smaller companies in the works though. Hopefully we will see some new sponsors for football next year. There are so many untapped areas for sponsors. I wish they would do something with all of the concrete in Reser. Use it for advertising or fan involvement, anything!
Oh and Rev, to answer your question: Talk to JS about how to get Reser completed. Need some wins! Go Beavs
Adley Rutchsman – Catcher
Zak Taylor – First Base
Andy Armstrong – Second Base
Beau Phillip – Shortstop
Jake Dukart – Third Base
Tyler Malone – Right Field
Kyler McMahan – Center Field
Preston Jones & Joe Casey – Left Field
Troy Claunch – Designated Hitter
Not many stunners to me. Dukart at 3rd is a surprise. McMahan over Jones in center is another.
Lately I was hearing more about Ryan Ober, Alex McGarry, and even Jake Harvey for that last infield spot. But last summer I also remember Pat Casey saying that if Dukart comes out for the team he’ll be battling to be a starter immediately.
McMahan’s name has been mentioned in center for a while but I’m surprised he’s ahead of both Preston Jones and Joe Casey. McMahan came to OSU as an infielder, and Jones and Casey both played well last year.
D1 out with more “way too soon” baseball predictions. Adley gets plenty of love, and the SEC; but, check the picks for “non -field of 64 sleeper” (whatever that is).
I thought Minnesota was just about the best team the Beavs played in the postseason last year. They have both of their really good pitchers back. I’m surprised they don’t have much preseason hype.
Agreed. Minnesota is predicted to be near the top of the B1G standings again this season. Depending on which preview one peruses it’s them or Michigan……..
The golden rodents will be a solid team again this season and make the postseason imo
The latest deflection from Coach Tinks………”we don’t lose when we have a packed house”. So, you were blown out by a mediocre Stanford team at home and you’re blaming attendance? I guess that’s what’s left when the “inexperience card” fell on deaf ears earlier this year.
Or they could play well under any situation since they have three top 100 players in the starting line-up and games against average teams at home should not be predicated on attendance.
Dueling douchie duck reporters today.
Matt Phrem, douche #1, is reporting Leavitt and oregon have parted ways(not sure if this means a firing or Leavitt is taking another job). Says orrgon will promote from within.
But douche #2, Justin Hopkins, is saying Leavitt is currently in a staff meeting with oregon and is still part of the staff.
Either way, I’m surprised it didnt happen sooner, considering Leavitt applied for every coaching vacancy he could find this offseason. He obviously didnt think he should play Robin for Mario-duh.
But oregon had to wait till after signing day, to ensure they got all of those recruits signed on the dotted line before their coach leaves.
Yikes, he’s under comtract for $1.7+ per year through 2022. That’s just a little less than Johnathan Smith’s HC contract, same duration. And nobody else is going to hire Leavitt for more, so oregon will have a pretty sizable chunk of that remaining deal to eat.
Add in the pending lawsuits for the players who recently sued the school amd Taggart, and it’s getting pretty expensive to be duck football. You’d think Phil Knight would expect a return on his investment better than a Las Vegas bowl.
The way he does business in this town, I can only imagine he’s willing to call it a loss-leader and still play the branding game with their programs. But I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Stanford get a higher share of his overall distributions going forward.
The Scoop indicates that Keith Heyward is slated to take Leavitt’s spot.
Their take on Leavitt’s future: “Leavitt’s name had been mentioned for a number of openings the past two off seasons, … and will have his pick of options.
While it doesn’t seem clear right now what his plans are or where he ends up, Leavitt is widely regarded in coaching circles as a top defensive coach.”
I know it wouldnt be popular, but I’d take Leavitt over Tibesar. Is it too late to shuffle the staff and hire Leavitt for pennies on the dollar as an “advisor” while oregon foots the bill?
We weren’t discussing why he was fired you dope. The alleged victim and his father both later recanted their initial statements about the incident and what actually took place. The reason Leavitt was fired is irrelevant to the initial post.
I wasn’t there and neither were you. Them’s the facts
I can’t believe he addressed Scott’s duties, instead of whining about how much he gets paid and leaving it out there without context.
Still, it’s not about the money. But Leach is correct. It’s about getting eyes on the product. ATT fucked that up when they blew up the tentative deal in place before they bought DTV. But that’s just a sore thumb compared to the network not being able to nimbly move to a stand-alone app with the primary channel being offered to TV distributors (and the regionals/app available to them as customers).
Leach wasn’t correct about money and visibility going hand in hand. It likely helps with recruiting. But the schools wouldn’t be as cranky about the profits (which are better than break-even) if we were nationwide and commanded a greater market share. A poorly run organization can still just break even. Hell, look at what’s happening with earnings for the corporations who own SEC sports content. They’re supposedly the industry leader.
I agree that correlation is not always causation. Never the less, wouldn’t you intuitively expect a team to play better with a large crowd cheering them on rather then the alternative?
“We’ve played in front of big crowds, they continue to grow, but (the players) should be hyped and ready to go anyway, regardless of how many are in the arena,” Oregon coach Kelly Graves said.
And I take his point, having been on both the playing and coaching end. Sure you should be ready to go regardless. But I don’t think that negates the value of a large partisan crown; the crowd can’t win the game for you but can be a bit of a “force multiplier” IMHO..
Austin Meek looks at the Leavitt move, makes a good case for saying that the buck stops with angry’s guy, Cristobal.
He then opines: Cristobal has obvious strengths as a recruiter and a leader of men. But he strikes me as a coach who needs to surround himself with the right people, assistants who can help him with his blind spots.
Was Leavitt one of those people? Maybe not. …All I know is, Oregon promised Leavitt a lot of money to stay as a defensive coordinator, only to cut ties with him a year later. For better or for worse, this is Cristobal’s show and the buck stops with him.
There’s a balance between hiring strong, smart, independent assistants and building a staff with uniform ideas and personalities.
Is Cristobal too insecure to work with strong coordinators?
Has Jonathan Smith been too vanilla in assembling his staff? Does he have blind spots?
Listening to some sports talk radio, I’m surprised at how much of the issues involved were known about for quite some time. Yet, nobody ever said anything about it.
Behavior during games, relationship with Cristobal, feeling like he should have been head coach, pissed that the players signed a petition for Cristobal, were some of the ones I heard.
Per WBB twitter this morning: Fans: Get to a Corvallis area Dutch Bros tomorrow to get a free GA ticket for Monday’s #CivilWar with the purchase of any size drink!
Seems a bit odd, maybe the 6pm start has impacted estimates of the potential crowd? Or, heh heh, maybe it’s the fact that those who cannot get PAC12 will be able to stay home and watch…on ESPN2.
Not so sure about them already being a sell out, I just received an email offer from the school for tics for the Sat MBB game and the WBB on Monday. A combo deal at $23 for both tickets.
Are the Ducks WBB the real deal? I perceive that Ducks have the better roster this year, particularly with Beaver injuries, but OSU still has the demonstrably stronger program, including coaching advantage.
I think there’s a chance OSU, out of pride, coaching, and program experience could pull out at least one win against a UO team that looks better on paper right now. Wish I could be there Monday night, think that would be a fun game and fan experience.
Oregon wbb is definitely for real. Beavs posts are outmatched so that’s where the game will be decided.
A slow grind it out type of game might be the way to victory on the road.
A lot of things will have to go the beavs way to win.
Better than 50% from the floor and make a lot of 3 pointers. Above 80% from the stripe. Keep Oregon below 50% and give up few offensive boards.
I’ve been told that opponent comparisons have little value; so I should pay no attention to Oregon wbb demolishing Stanford and Stanford demolishing the Beavs ?
I’ve found espns recruit database (the old scout site) to be reliable in terms of real people. Rivals seems to try too hard to rate everyone. But that’s their model, people will buy subscriptions if a “3 star” guy shows interest in their school.
espn didn’t even bother to rate Sio and Arnold but other sites had them as solid three stars.
This is the shit namac tries to tell everyone is more important than actually evaluating a player. Then later says well if the beavs pick player up, said player should actually be downgraded. wtf?
I saw they signed a grad transfer WR Juwon Johnson, from Penn State, who will solve all of their issues at WR and take them straight to the College football Playoffs.
I also saw this knight in shining armor has 2 TDs over his 3 year career at Penn St.(35 games) and a little over 1100 total yards over those 35 games.
Am I missing something? They guy he’s replacing put up way better numbers in just 1 year(13 games, 10 TDs, 1184 yards)
I agree @OrangeJulius. I think some of my frustration with recruiting and rankings is my (our) fault. You see a guy being recruited by Bama for example and he must be awesome and a 98 blah blah blah. You see the Beavs recruiting a guy and he must be an 84. The 84 commits and isn’t recruited then so no one pays attention to his last year of football and he is a “low” recruit. I’m done with recruiting ranking stuff. I am looking forward to seeing what product Smith puts on the field. If it sucks, then he needs to bring in different staff and players.
Look at the baseball team. They get some great prospects but they aren’t the top prospects. Coaching really matters along with chemistry and mental preparation. I hope Smith can bring the program together. It’s such a small margin for winning/losing a handful of games each year.
I noted the scathing ops piece that Nemec did on Beaver recruiting early in this thread. His thesis was that Beav recruiting is broken and Smith is not fixing it.
I was just thinking this weekend’s WBB game against Oregon might get ugly since quacks are having a great season and we’re kinda meh this year with the injuries. Then I remembered Beavs are still a top ten team.
Rueck and the gals have spoiled me! :-)
Who the hell would down vote this? Yes, a 20-4 record is still pretty gaudy. I think Sabrina is a once in a decade type player. Oregon will come back to the pack in one or two seasons. Beavs might still get them at home.
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Go Beavs!
Not a football signing but we picked up a WBB Commitment, Jelena Mitrovic. Beat out ASU, Iowa, and Rutgers for her. All top 25 programs. 2019 class is huge!
https://twitter.com/passionhoops/status/1093119708994256899?s=19
Good find, that’s a pretty good signing for the Beavs
No, it’s not a pretty good signing….it’s a great signing. She is a highly skilled player. Check out her recruiting video on YouTube.
That is freaking huge news! Check out her recruiting video. She is an awesome passer, runs the floor extremely well and has great hands. She’s going to be a solid player for the Beavs. WOW!
https://twitter.com/tannerm45/status/1091354430677504000?s=21
JS should have a clause in his contract that adds one year by default every time he signs a legendary super-mullet.
His hair matches the orange uni. If you ask where’s the beef… I think you can point to this guy.
That is the most superpowered Power Mullet these eyes have ever seen.
Get that kid a #69 jersey ASAP!!!
Anybody else as pumped as Jacob about the Beavs getting to a Rose Bowl!!
https://twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1093207703399424000?s=19
Wow… LOL
“Sio is big, physical, and especially athletic as he moves very well for a man his size” beaversedge write up. Makes me chuckle since this guy only got one offer.
The only true thing is he’s big. Sio is a major major project. A lot of things need to go right for him to pay off. 1. Needs to improve his conditioning tenfold to play in the up tempo game. 2. Needs to diet. 330 is too heavy. Should be around 295ish. 3. Needs to reshape his body to carry his weight better and gain athleticism. He’s top heavy so he can really only go one direction. Smaller faster guys can just run around him. 4. He’ll have to adjust to a higher level of competition.
He is plenty strong so that won’t ever be an issue.
With all these things he needs to work on, it’s unlikely we’ll see him for a while on the field. The upside doesn’t appear to be high. Hopefully he is motivated by only getting one offer to put in the necessary work.
@Bill, did your fitness change at all between the ages of 16-25 when you learned about healthy eating, regular exercise, etc? I see him doing a lot of the things you mention when he will basically have a year with professionals nutritionists and trainers to help him make these changes. I made these changes without pros but just the access to a gym etc while in college. Give the kid a chance!
Non evaluation assessment — Sio fits in terms of size/weight; noticed weight of starting line has ticked heavier just in the last two years.
With understanding he is a giant project; OL coach is supposedly a good technician?
Yeah, I’m sure Niner and Coach M didn’t evaluate him at all, just threw out a valuable scholarship for fun.
I don’t recall this much attention on preferred walkons ever. Hopefully some of these guys pan out. Honestly, some of them look better than some of the late offers from years before, so maybe there are a couple decent players in there.
Look up Vander Esch who played for BSU, and now a starter for the Cowboys. We can only wish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leighton_Vander_Esch
Smith presser is live here:
https://www.facebook.com/BeaverFootball/videos/2208327832520599/
Presser was pretty ho-hum. I’m sure there will be video to link later.
Mentioned Kee Whetzel will be moved to the secondary.
Only 3 guys out with injury for Spring Ball (I didn’t catch all the names, but Calvin Tyler, Simon Sandberg were 2 of them)
Spring game is 3rd Saturday in April and will be up at Mountain View HS up the Portland West suburbs.
Smith had a sly smile when asked about the transfer portal and if he anticipates adding any more players from there. He didn’t say anything specific but said we could still do that, or something to that effect. Said he expected more transfer portal questions than he was asked.
Smith also said he thinks we’re pretty much done with this class, although there is some wiggle room if needed.
When asked about potential transfers leaving OSU and if there are any more coming, he didn’t specifically answer that either, but smiled a little and said they only want guys who want to be here to stay on the team, so he welcomes anybody who doesn’t fit that category to find their way. Basically saying, “please leave OSU, so I can sign up more transfers.”
Anybody else get any takeaways from it?
Yeah, felt like regarding transfer portal & whether or not there may be more incoming announcements, he was keeping that hand rather close.
Any chance we could still land transfer zach abercrumbia?
Doubtful
Any idea who is transferring out? The U of Oregonian made it sound like there is a exodus happening.
Based on the mass exodus going on at UNike’s softball team, they certainly would know a thing or two about such things
Ha true that
JS seemed to be annoyed with the media keep going back to the QB situation between Jake Luton and Tristan Gebbia. He kept giving the same answer in a different way when asked. He was polite about it, but you could tell he wished they would ask more questions in regards to the players they got yesterday. I’m curious about Paul Chryst’s nephew at QB. It appears that JS was able to get guys to come in as PWO’s because he wasn’t going to take away scholarships from current players to give to incoming guys. With that said, practice hard, play hard, compete, and you will find yourself on the field or suiting up on Saturdays. Some of the players signed that are PWO’s I could see becoming scholarship players once players leave/graduate.
They have a body type and athletic type they are going after and aren’t deviating from it. Jake Cookus has been the primary in state recruiter and is passionate about getting Oregonian players to come to Oregon State who fit what they are looking for in a player. JS also mentioned that they take into account the level of competition, but don’t rule anyone out just because they are in a lower level division of high school ball nor that they aren’t on an elite team in their division/league. They look at the individual, not all 11 plus players they are surrounded by on their high school/JUCO team.
The more transfers we get the better. Many of the high schoolers in this class need to redshirt to get physically ready for D1 ball. If they can do this, I think the Beavs can go bowling in two seasons. Last season was essentially 3 wins and they struggled heavily on the lines.
I am hoping that OSU’s program will resemble Iowa’s or Wisconsin’s.
If we’re comparing B1G schools to model our program after right now I prefer Northwestern. They haven’t found lightning in a bottle and made another Rose Bowl run just yet, but the stability Pat Fitzgerald has found there over the last decade I feel is really remarkable, and relates to OSU’s situation in the PAC with JS more so than Iowa and Wiscy. They’ve been doing all the right things to stay competitive given their situation and so far I feel like JS is at least showing that he has a plan/model he’s trying to execute to do the same here. Whether or not it works remains to be seen but at least he’s sticking to it which is refreshing in itself after Anderpants.
I would agree that NW is a better comparison as well. I argued Iowa because of JS’s emphasis on recruiting tight ends.
Just for reference…
2007 Pat Fitzgerald 6–6 3–5
2008 Pat Fitzgerald 9–4 5–3 L Alamo
2009 Pat Fitzgerald 8–5 5–3 L Outback
2010 Pat Fitzgerald 7–6 3–5 L TicketCity
2011 Pat Fitzgerald 6–7 3–5 L Meineke
2012 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 5–3 W Gator
2013 Pat Fitzgerald 5–7 1–7
2014 Pat Fitzgerald 5–7 3–5
2015 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 6–2 L Outback
2016 Pat Fitzgerald 7–6 5–4 W Pinstripe
2017 Pat Fitzgerald 10–3 7–2
They also played in the B1G championship game this season.
For further reference, MR had a 55% winning percentage here. Fitzgerald’s is 60% at NW and Kirk Ferentz is 60% at Iowa.
I’d tend to lean to the NW model also.
They tend to land 50-70 in the recruiting rankings, OSU is typically 10 or so spots ahead. They’ve brought in a total of three 4-star recruits combined over the last 5 years. They have a small fan base sandwiched geographically between some of college footballs giants. Ryan field maxes out at about 47,000 (same as Reser) and often times is half filled with visiting B1G fans. They can only recruit kids that can meet Northwesterns more rigorous admission standards.
They can’t draw more fans to games yet so they haven’t wasted money and only made incremental stadium improvements and have focused on team/training facilities instead. They can’t out recruit Mich/OhioSt or draw 4-star talent from outside their footprint, so they don’t try to, and have instead built their culture on high-iq 3-star recruits in a system meant to develop players over a number of years.
They match up well with our situation in the PAC but in some ways are even more disadvantaged. Yet, they’re winning at a 60% clip over a decade, have won 3 straight bowl games and played for a B1G championship.
So I think it’s a good model, if not totally apples-apples, just in how they’ve reacted to their situation without being in denial about it. I see JS behaving in the same way which is at least encouraging to me that he might find a similar path.
Adding to the NW comparison, I like that NW seems to pull off an upset or two each year and is in just about every game. Something the beavs were better at this year but still some games where halftime basically meant game over. I’d like to see us look like we belong on the same field as all opponents and crush some playoff dreams here and there (USC upsets at home back in the day).
More apples to apples NW education and OSU education. Basically the same right? I hope?
NW is private (8k undergrads) with prestigious med, law, and business schools (12k postgrads), sort of the Stanford of the midwest with high admission standards and low acceptance rate. So not really comparable so much in that sense. OSU is very underrated academically, but has a more traditional public school enrollment (25k under/5k post). Best university in Oregon though.
I think a big difference between OSU and northwestern is support from donors. Northwestern has several wealthy alumni that are very interested in transforming the athletics landscape at that school. Check out some of their recent facilities projects and you’ll see what I mean. Their fan base is all in and has deep pockets, while at OSU we’re more an extension of Mike Riley’s aw shucks demeanor when it comes to athletics.
Agreed, they have a lot of $, comes with the territory of being a rich person school, and their donors are showing up. Their new training facility on the lake is insane. I think I read something like $200+ million?
I don’t think the lack of donor support at OSU is very Riley mentality related but I get that sentiment as a suffering fan. It’s just that we don’t have the kind of deep pocketed donors that a school like NW or Stanford does, and the ones that we do have (Nvidia guy) don’t care about football.
I hope they can find a way to finish reser soon though, even though we can’t fill it. If you build it they will come, right?
OT: Bob Stoops is taking a coaching job in the XFL.
I can’t for the life of me figure out the thought process behind such a move.
No kidding. Less pressure and time commitment than a big time college or NFL job is the only thing that makes sense.
I was going to say XFL must stand for eX-Football Legends, until I remembered Riley’s coaching there
Riley is in the AAF
Different league
eX-Football Legends it is!
Cal is straight terrible at basketball this year. They are much worse than the Beaver squad that went 1-17 in conference a few years ago.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/pascoe/arizona-reportedly-suspends-assistant-basketball-coach-mark-phelps-indefinitely-over/article_93e53cd4-2a83-11e9-ae96-5fa6f11862b8.amp.html Zona b-ball problems
Eubanks is playing on ESPN
Saw him block the last warriors shot of the 3rd quarter to prevent the warriors from scoring over 50 in the quarter. I guess that’s better than not blocking it
Buffs beat UCLA at Pauley and Utah beats USC at Galen center tonight.
Don’t know if this has been posted here already but it’s a really good article on recruiting fuckery.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/02/05/uncommittable-offers-recruiting-national-signing-day
Great article WFO. Unbelievable.
This is why I always side with the kid who “de-commits” when fans take cues from coaches about the whole morality bullshit line about how one’s word doesn’t count for anything anymore. The only power or leverage the kids hold are their bodies.
That being said, I don’t understand their numbers, or how they’re trying to make the numbers relevant to their argument. If all ~130 programs averaged 97 offers to fill an average of 12 ships per year over 8 years, and that total is increasing… what does that have to with how many offers are forwarded?
My intuition tells me the total number of kids who are offered is close to the number of kids who get ships. If there are 1500 ships available any given year, and programs offer a sliding range of players along any one of many meaningless arbitrary ranking systems (as is inferred when suggesting some schools offer to PSAs who are above their punching weight just for the buzz attached), then there will be overlap up and down that range. Coaches know who they want, and they offer. They get shot down a lot. They move on to PSAs who aren’t shooting them down. Life goes on.
If you don’t make an earnest effort to try to get your plan A PSAs, fail, then make an earnest effort to try to get your plan B guys… and so on… don’t come back to me with stories about how recruiting is hard.
I don’t really like the idea of having PSAs sign NLIs when they commit. I like the idea of coaches sending grants-in-aid for them to sign with a written offer, if they’re truly sincere. A limit would be placed on PSAs… of maybe five schools with which they could sign grants, for obvious reasons. And I would go so far as to make the grants void after each signing period, in order to reset the conversation. I also like the sunset clause of a month for said written offers. It gives the coaches and players a reason to re-issue their potential love for one another.
It seems fairly obvious that there are some programs that look at the recruiting rankings and throw an offer out to every 4 and 5 star kid. Interestingly enough many of those programs get high ranking recruiting classes but their team is in constant disarray. Hmmmm….
Wazzu kicking the ever loving fuck out of ASU in Tempe. Anyone see that coming?
With the Buffs and Utes also both winning on the road last night in LA, hope the Beavs have paid attention and bring it this weekend.
This should be a sweep. Anything less is unacceptable.
Prepare to be unaccepted
No kidding.
From the “Ya can’t keep a good man down” file: Bob Lundeberg announces that he will be putting out a podcast for something called ThatCast. If this thing lasts, look forward to some good reporting, especially during baseball season.
https://share.transistor.fm/s/092c0daf
Strangely this guy is unemployed but that tool namac keeps pulling a paycheck. I guess clickbait is more profitable than good writing.
Nemec’s latest is an “editorial” blasting Beaver football recruiting. He even dumped on the transfers saying all but one (can’t remember which) have been downgraded to three stars by some site and should not be considered impact players now. You know who he works for, I won’t link it.
Stanford and oSU look pretty evenly matched, but Stanfords 3’s are falling. Tree leads 20-13, Beavs ball, 12:00 left in 1st half
Hasn’t looked that way to me. Stanford has picked apart the Beavs zone for easy baskets.
It was early, just meant physically they looked evenly matched. Mentally, another story. Beavs need to find some energy in the 2nd half. Stanford is scoring way too easily
All we do on offense is dribble. For fucks sake this is shit basketball.
That’s not all we do.
Sometimes we pick up our dribble in weird spots… then stand there until the D comes to us.
They’ve also decided to not play defense anymore.
gave up almost 50 points in the first fucking half. Yikes. 48-35 at halftime. Were down by as many as 19.
48 pts is the most given up an ANY HALF this year by the Beavs……per Parker.
Mike Mcyntire on color commentary is fine, but he just called us the ducks…smh…
You got even with him by calling him Mike McIntyre.
Wish i could tell you it was intentional
This game is brutal to watch. Maybe if I quit the Beavs will go on a run. I’m out
What a fucking shit show. You steal two nice wins on the road last weekend and follow it up with this stinker?
Team was completely unprepared for a 4-5 team at home? This coaching staff sucks and won’t ever win anything of significance. I’m completely convinced of that now.
OK!!!!! EVERYBODY OFF THE BUS!!!!
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!!
Joke’s on you, duckie, I was never on the bus! :-D
All one me. Went to the game with buddy and long time season ticket holder. My presence made the kids nervous having a living legend watching them, clinically evaluating their every move. It was either that or the goofy glasses, polyester slacks and white patent leather shoes, can’t be sure. They will bounce back against a bad Cal team. JB
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25900439/everything-need-know-first-alliance-american-football-season
Interesting read
No more hoops posts until we… wait… this isn’t a hoops post.
No more forgetting hoops posts until we… um… lose… I think.
I forgot the jinx rules. Anyone have a copy handy?
The first rule of hoops jinx club is…
…..first rule is — You Don’t Talk About Men’s Basketball — especially after two road wins….expectations up, they let us down….the women on the other hand…..
Hope I’m wrong but I believe this Stanford game will prove to be the beginning of the end for Coach Tinkle. We kinda, sorta knew that he wasn’t much of a recruiter but hopefully could make up for it on the Xs and Os side of things.
It’s becoming evident that’s a liability too, and once Tres and the Thompson Bros. show is done, things will likely go downhill quickly. Last night, against one of the truly mediocre teams in league, you have a ton of momentum and the ability to claim second place and THAT happens? You have two bigs (Kelley & G) who are among the best defensive players in conference and BOTH of Stanford’s post players end up having the best stat-lines of their careers? Oh, and one of Stanford’s most important players (Davis) only played 13 minutes due to injury.
Tres’ ability to become a basketball swiss army knife solves a lot of problems but the bigger issue is that very few players become any better than they were as freshmen while being coached by Tinkle’s staff. Stephen and Big G haven’t changed much at all (has Stevie been told there’s a weight room on campus?). Ethan seems like the same player as last year, but with more confidence. We can look at the potential of Kelley, Washington and Reichle and hope they’ll get better but this staff’s track record indicates that won’t happen.
Last year, I was told by a member of the athletic department that Coach Tinkle was really excited about Jack Wilson and he would be a “program-changing” recruit. Either he’s going to light the world on fire at Idaho or Wayne is a really poor judge of talent. History suggests the latter.
I was a big fan of Craig Robinson but surrendered hope when he couldn’t win with Nelson, Collier, Cunningham, Moreland, Burton, et al. I think we’ve reached that point again with Tinkle as coach. This is the best shot he’ll ever have and it ain’t happening.
Sounds about right. Can Rueck coach both teams?
The question is, how long is the end? 2 years is what I’m thinking unless they get some serious donar $$$ to buy him out. Not sure I trust Barnes to make the right hire. I realize they’re non-revenue sports but he’s done well with the women’s golf and men’s soccer hires so maybe there’s hope.
I think you give him one more year, let him coach his son for his senior season then send him packing.
osu can’t afford to buyout his contract. I think his contract runs the 202-23 and buyout is 5-6m. For better or worse, he’s the guy unless someone steps up and throws 5-6m on the table.
The only thing positive I can come up for the WT era so far is that I guess he didn’t fuck up CR recruit GP-2. He has really shown zilch without GP-2 on the roster. I concur, he gets six years because of his son, otherwise it’s time to move on.
Luck O’ the Beavs scenario, they have a great season next year, TT graduates. WT gets a multi-year extension and then the bottom falls out of the program.
While their season doesn’t reflect the actual talent on the team, the dynamics will change next year. A quick look at the positive stats, and the leader in every category but boards and PPG is… Vernon. Ethan is second in FT% and 3%. Overall FG% is meh, with the bigs doing about average and the backcourt and swings doing less. Reichle is second in A/TO.
Ugh! A/TO is probably the best indicator of any of our outcomes. So many dropped balls….
Tres has picked it up for the conference slate, and Stevie has remained constant in numbers (but not from game to game).
Next year, we’ll have Ethan playing the correct position. And Vernon can probably scale his production with minutes. The real potential for next year will be how Washington matures, how Pritchard fits in, and how quickly Lucas can get up to speed.
Eggers summary and look forward after the signing day:
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/419397-322989-heres-who-what-beavers-say-will-make-them-better-in-2019
Wow….female edition to last night’s men’s game. Stanford gets hot from three point land.
Deja Vu all over again
Crazy how bad De La Hoya was kicking our ass last night. Wish his dad would’ve let him boxed instead but his dad has also taken some serious shots to the head from real fighters. Wake up punchy!
It wasn’t pretty but the Beavs get by a 0fer Cal team in conference.
How did WSU not kill us. They are playing really well on AZ trip. Jealous.
Turned on the AAF game and first thing I see is a classic sideline gum-chomper money-shot.
Halftime interview was him smiling discussing wanting to keep running the ball. Classic Riley.
I read an interview with Bikey where he was babbling about “Texas being his home”. Hasn’t he said they same thing about Corvallis?
Golly, you know the old saying: There’s no place like whereever’s paying you!
OSU basketball’s twitter account seems to be getting a little testy whenever people say something critical of the team eeking out the Cal win. Every response last night was a brief “We won.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/BeaverMBB/with_replies?lang=en
That’s funny. You kind of have to ignore the official site because it’s embarrassing PR bullshit anyway. Even in a loss they usually start out with some positive spin. I don’t know if all official college athletic sites are like that, but I would guess so. Maybe the MBB spin is worse because they have been chronic underachievers?
WT comes from a large family, not to mention the fervor of wife and daughters.
They can rarely deflect criticism with those two words, so they’re taking advantage of it while they can!
If anyone was paying attention, freaking WSU goes on the road to sweep the AZ schools so the Pac12 conference is anything but predictable this year. I don’t care who you beat, or by how much or whether it’s pretty or ugly….it’s a win and that’s better than a loss. Certainly, the Beavs did not play well this weekend but that’s part of the issue with the conference as nobody has been consistent except Washington. Heck, Utah comes back from a 22 point deficit to stun UCLA….if one things clear the conference is not very good and is very unpredictable.l
It didn’t have to be that way…Nevada is currently #7
OL michael eletise us transferring from arizona to hawaii, bummer.
Anything else going to the pac-12 tourney to watch the beavs cut down the nets? Staying at the MGM if anyone wants to meet up.
That would be fun to watch the beavs cut down the nets. Mostly since they’d have to push the huskies off the ladder to do it
WBB beats Cal today 82-74. Were down as many as 11 halfway through the 2nd. Great road win against a good team.
In what should be considered a partial rebuilding year for the Beavs with a new PG and new post player, the loss of Tudor and Thropay, it was a great win against a team with one of the best post players in the country and some exceptional outside shooters for California. The player that is starting to show glimpses of solid talent is Patricia Morris as she got a few boards and I think scored 6 points. If she can contribute over the last part of the season, that give the Beavs another big body going into post season. Thropay didn’t play today but was available so that should help too with another player available to play.
Destiny put the team on her shoulders but got major contributions from Pivec, Aleah, Grymek so it was a team effort. Beavs played very solid defense after getting down by 11 in the first half.
Games upcoming against Oregon….I think Oregon probably wins by 15-17 down at Oregon and the Beavs have a shot in Corvallis if they play solid defense and hit their shots. Oregon is an excellent team and it will be very, very tough.
I’ll be at court side in Corvallis so that should be fun.
Morris scored 7 in 7 minutes; as you said, team effort in a rebuilding season.
What will it take to get a W or 2 vs ucks? Excellent 3pt shooting will be mandatory, but is there a chance to get an uck or two into foul trouble? Beavs had 7 TO’s today, can’t let that go much higher and still beat the toilet seat crew.
Any bets on total T’s for the two HC’s?
Beavs picked 3rd in Pac 12 coaches preseason baseball poll.
https://pac-12.com/article/2019/02/07/pac-12-baseball-coaches-vote-ucla-2019-favorite
Pretty amazing that 4 pitchers are on one or more preseason all america lists: Abel, Fehmel, Mulholland, and Eisert
Season starts Friday at noon
Sounds about right.
Hopefully the pac12 dominates the non-conf so the conference can get 6 bids.
Casey would use this as motivation. It will be interesting to see how Bailey differs in this area. Hoping the guys may play a little looser under Bailey without losing the Casey edge.
If anyone is interested in sponsorship for football, baseball, or m/w basketball I have a contact with Leerfield Sports who works with Beaver athletics. He is a local guy located at osu office in downtown Portland. Let me know if you want to get connected. Just a few more sponsorships and Reser will be completed ?.
Thanks for the negative vote. I really shouldn’t try improving my alma mater!
Don’t let it get to you dude :)
Please expand then on how we are a few more Learfield Sports sponsorships away from Reser being completed.
The finishing Reser part was a joke. I need to improve upon my sarcasm over the interwebs. He is working on getting new sponsors though and they will bring awareness to the brand and the athletics.
I am noticing more ideas to get fans involved this year for example the names of students who have received their Beaver Dam tickets for the Civil War game coming up this weekend. Also, the events going on in Truax center. There have been discussions about doing things like this for some of the men’s and women’s basketball games. New sponsors will get new promotion ideas, some cool stuff in the works if he can get companies to sign on. Not easy with competing against other professional organizations in the state such as the Blazers. Some great smaller companies in the works though. Hopefully we will see some new sponsors for football next year. There are so many untapped areas for sponsors. I wish they would do something with all of the concrete in Reser. Use it for advertising or fan involvement, anything!
Oh and Rev, to answer your question: Talk to JS about how to get Reser completed. Need some wins! Go Beavs
You know there’s a serious flaw in the new rankings criteria metric being used when……
The team sitting the next spot ahead of you in the rankings is three games below .500, has only played 6 road games and has lost all 6 of them?
Huh?
WSN, which sport are you referring to here — womens BB?
Take a look at Miami (currently 89th)
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
Wow. I take your point. Thanks.
I guess the Ducks can lose to Texas Southern and the Beavs at home and still rank ahead of OSU?
Losing to 82, 84 and 88 didn’t help.
… and 141.
Facepalm. They didn’t lose to 84 (Old Dominion).
Fat-fingered 85, which would be wrong now… as 84 is now oSu.
And now it’s different again.
Baseball lineup for game 1 vs New Mexico.
Adley Rutchsman – Catcher
Zak Taylor – First Base
Andy Armstrong – Second Base
Beau Phillip – Shortstop
Jake Dukart – Third Base
Tyler Malone – Right Field
Kyler McMahan – Center Field
Preston Jones & Joe Casey – Left Field
Troy Claunch – Designated Hitter
Not many stunners to me. Dukart at 3rd is a surprise. McMahan over Jones in center is another.
Lately I was hearing more about Ryan Ober, Alex McGarry, and even Jake Harvey for that last infield spot. But last summer I also remember Pat Casey saying that if Dukart comes out for the team he’ll be battling to be a starter immediately.
McMahan’s name has been mentioned in center for a while but I’m surprised he’s ahead of both Preston Jones and Joe Casey. McMahan came to OSU as an infielder, and Jones and Casey both played well last year.
I’d project the batting order like this
Jones
Philip
Rutchsman
Malone
Claunch
Taylor
Dukart
McMahan
Armstrong
Dukart, McMahan, Philip are the real question marks for offense.
D1 out with more “way too soon” baseball predictions. Adley gets plenty of love, and the SEC; but, check the picks for “non -field of 64 sleeper” (whatever that is).
https://d1baseball.com/analysis/2019-preseason-staff-bold-predictions/
I thought Minnesota was just about the best team the Beavs played in the postseason last year. They have both of their really good pitchers back. I’m surprised they don’t have much preseason hype.
Agree, Minnesota was a solid team last year
Agreed. Minnesota is predicted to be near the top of the B1G standings again this season. Depending on which preview one peruses it’s them or Michigan……..
The golden rodents will be a solid team again this season and make the postseason imo
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17010
Speaking of Minnesota, were the hell is Beavergopher? Froze in the polar vortex?
RIP BG :(
The latest deflection from Coach Tinks………”we don’t lose when we have a packed house”. So, you were blown out by a mediocre Stanford team at home and you’re blaming attendance? I guess that’s what’s left when the “inexperience card” fell on deaf ears earlier this year.
Or, he could be encouraging people to come to the game because they play better when there is a full house.
Or they could play well under any situation since they have three top 100 players in the starting line-up and games against average teams at home should not be predicated on attendance.
John McKalk? Aka-The Tinkle Sisters?
I didn’t watch the husky game but that was at home and sounded like beavs came out really flat.
I’d love a sweep of the duckies. Winning down there was great but I’d hate to then lose to them at home.
how about you don’t get blown out by 23 at home to a mediocre at best Stanford team?
I was thinking about buying tix last week before that debacle. Not anymore. Been fooled enough by this Jekyll and Hyde crew.
Dueling douchie duck reporters today.
Matt Phrem, douche #1, is reporting Leavitt and oregon have parted ways(not sure if this means a firing or Leavitt is taking another job). Says orrgon will promote from within.
But douche #2, Justin Hopkins, is saying Leavitt is currently in a staff meeting with oregon and is still part of the staff.
Either way, I’m surprised it didnt happen sooner, considering Leavitt applied for every coaching vacancy he could find this offseason. He obviously didnt think he should play Robin for Mario-duh.
But oregon had to wait till after signing day, to ensure they got all of those recruits signed on the dotted line before their coach leaves.
Red Guard is stating Cristobal has chosen not to retain Leavitt and have confirmed it.
Yikes, he’s under comtract for $1.7+ per year through 2022. That’s just a little less than Johnathan Smith’s HC contract, same duration. And nobody else is going to hire Leavitt for more, so oregon will have a pretty sizable chunk of that remaining deal to eat.
Add in the pending lawsuits for the players who recently sued the school amd Taggart, and it’s getting pretty expensive to be duck football. You’d think Phil Knight would expect a return on his investment better than a Las Vegas bowl.
The way he does business in this town, I can only imagine he’s willing to call it a loss-leader and still play the branding game with their programs. But I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Stanford get a higher share of his overall distributions going forward.
The Scoop indicates that Keith Heyward is slated to take Leavitt’s spot.
Their take on Leavitt’s future: “Leavitt’s name had been mentioned for a number of openings the past two off seasons, … and will have his pick of options.
While it doesn’t seem clear right now what his plans are or where he ends up, Leavitt is widely regarded in coaching circles as a top defensive coach.”
http://footballscoop.com/news/report-oregon-defensive-coordinator-jim-leavitt-wont-return/
247 originally broke the story:
https://247sports.com/college/oregon/Article/Jim-Leavitt-Oregon-Football-129072571/
I know it wouldnt be popular, but I’d take Leavitt over Tibesar. Is it too late to shuffle the staff and hire Leavitt for pennies on the dollar as an “advisor” while oregon foots the bill?
Isnt he a giant asshole? Like choking kids out or something?
Allegedly
Yes… because when he hit the kid and grabbed him by the throat, we don’t know if he squeezed. He didn’t leave any bruising.
Dislike that all you want, but them’s the facts.
And it’s not even why he was fired. He was fired for lying about it to his superiors.
We weren’t discussing why he was fired you dope. The alleged victim and his father both later recanted their initial statements about the incident and what actually took place. The reason Leavitt was fired is irrelevant to the initial post.
I wasn’t there and neither were you. Them’s the facts
No… but I did have the throat-grab wrong. It was another kid in another incident that came up while the school was investigating.
http://ntneighborhoodnews.com/2015/02/an-exclusive-interview-with-player-struck-by-former-usf-coach-jim-leavitt/
Miller, btw, died a year and a half ago, at 29.
If OSU even considers hiring that scum, I’ll return my diploma and be done with them for good.
Good read on pac12 networks if you have minute. Well, maybe not good but some perspective on its failures.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/13/think-the-pac-12-networks-are-struggling-with-audience-and-revenue-the-reality-might-be-worse-than-you-imagined
I can’t believe he addressed Scott’s duties, instead of whining about how much he gets paid and leaving it out there without context.
Still, it’s not about the money. But Leach is correct. It’s about getting eyes on the product. ATT fucked that up when they blew up the tentative deal in place before they bought DTV. But that’s just a sore thumb compared to the network not being able to nimbly move to a stand-alone app with the primary channel being offered to TV distributors (and the regionals/app available to them as customers).
Leach wasn’t correct about money and visibility going hand in hand. It likely helps with recruiting. But the schools wouldn’t be as cranky about the profits (which are better than break-even) if we were nationwide and commanded a greater market share. A poorly run organization can still just break even. Hell, look at what’s happening with earnings for the corporations who own SEC sports content. They’re supposedly the industry leader.
Tinkle saying the team plays better when there’s a packed house is mixing up cause and effect.
I agree that correlation is not always causation. Never the less, wouldn’t you intuitively expect a team to play better with a large crowd cheering them on rather then the alternative?
“We’ve played in front of big crowds, they continue to grow, but (the players) should be hyped and ready to go anyway, regardless of how many are in the arena,” Oregon coach Kelly Graves said.
And I take his point, having been on both the playing and coaching end. Sure you should be ready to go regardless. But I don’t think that negates the value of a large partisan crown; the crowd can’t win the game for you but can be a bit of a “force multiplier” IMHO..
I agree.
Austin Meek looks at the Leavitt move, makes a good case for saying that the buck stops with angry’s guy, Cristobal.
He then opines:
Cristobal has obvious strengths as a recruiter and a leader of men. But he strikes me as a coach who needs to surround himself with the right people, assistants who can help him with his blind spots.
Was Leavitt one of those people? Maybe not. …All I know is, Oregon promised Leavitt a lot of money to stay as a defensive coordinator, only to cut ties with him a year later. For better or for worse, this is Cristobal’s show and the buck stops with him.
There’s a balance between hiring strong, smart, independent assistants and building a staff with uniform ideas and personalities.
Is Cristobal too insecure to work with strong coordinators?
Has Jonathan Smith been too vanilla in assembling his staff? Does he have blind spots?
Oh, and how is Heyward gonna work out as DC?
Thoughts?
https://www.ducksports.com/sports/20190214/austin-meek-in-ducks-staff-shakeup-buck-stops-with-mario-cristobal
Listening to some sports talk radio, I’m surprised at how much of the issues involved were known about for quite some time. Yet, nobody ever said anything about it.
What were the issues mentioned? I knew he has been job hunting all along but the ducks knew that and gave him a raise so…
Behavior during games, relationship with Cristobal, feeling like he should have been head coach, pissed that the players signed a petition for Cristobal, were some of the ones I heard.
Sounds like a peach of a man.
Per WBB twitter this morning:
Fans: Get to a Corvallis area Dutch Bros tomorrow to get a free GA ticket for Monday’s #CivilWar with the purchase of any size drink!
Seems a bit odd, maybe the 6pm start has impacted estimates of the potential crowd? Or, heh heh, maybe it’s the fact that those who cannot get PAC12 will be able to stay home and watch…on ESPN2.
Probably want to ensure it fills up with Beaver fans before ducks snatch up any leftover tickets.
If this is on the weekend, Sunday even, it’s already sold out. Trading exposure vs butts with it being on Monday. Let’s hope they can pull out a W.
Sounds like both wbb civil wars are sold out. Hopefully a large contingent of beavs fans will be in Eugene and make a lot of noise.
Crowd in Gill shouldn’t have too many duck fans since it’s early Monday night.
I would expect a large crowd for the men’s game. Maybe 8k. Students will make up a large portion.
Not so sure about them already being a sell out, I just received an email offer from the school for tics for the Sat MBB game and the WBB on Monday. A combo deal at $23 for both tickets.
Are the Ducks WBB the real deal? I perceive that Ducks have the better roster this year, particularly with Beaver injuries, but OSU still has the demonstrably stronger program, including coaching advantage.
I think there’s a chance OSU, out of pride, coaching, and program experience could pull out at least one win against a UO team that looks better on paper right now. Wish I could be there Monday night, think that would be a fun game and fan experience.
Oregon wbb is definitely for real. Beavs posts are outmatched so that’s where the game will be decided.
A slow grind it out type of game might be the way to victory on the road.
A lot of things will have to go the beavs way to win.
Better than 50% from the floor and make a lot of 3 pointers. Above 80% from the stripe. Keep Oregon below 50% and give up few offensive boards.
I’ve been told that opponent comparisons have little value; so I should pay no attention to Oregon wbb demolishing Stanford and Stanford demolishing the Beavs ?
Following that logic…stanford lost to yucks by 40ish, beavs lost to furd by 40ish so civil war should be yucks 80 and beavos 0?
For all of beavrecruiting’s and angry’s lovers out there this Valentine’s Day.
https://twitter.com/SportsPac12/status/1096104176063377408?s=19
This is why star ratings of recruits are almost worthless.
https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football-recruiting/2019/2/14/18224994/blake-carringer-fake-recruit-247-rivals-recruiting-rankings
I hope someone keeps creating these fake accounts.
I’ve found espns recruit database (the old scout site) to be reliable in terms of real people. Rivals seems to try too hard to rate everyone. But that’s their model, people will buy subscriptions if a “3 star” guy shows interest in their school.
espn didn’t even bother to rate Sio and Arnold but other sites had them as solid three stars.
This is the shit namac tries to tell everyone is more important than actually evaluating a player. Then later says well if the beavs pick player up, said player should actually be downgraded. wtf?
I saw they signed a grad transfer WR Juwon Johnson, from Penn State, who will solve all of their issues at WR and take them straight to the College football Playoffs.
I also saw this knight in shining armor has 2 TDs over his 3 year career at Penn St.(35 games) and a little over 1100 total yards over those 35 games.
Am I missing something? They guy he’s replacing put up way better numbers in just 1 year(13 games, 10 TDs, 1184 yards)
4* high school kid in college becomes an unproductive transfer to d*cks namac upgrades to 5*
4* high school kid one year in no college play, transfer to Beavs namac downgrades to 3*
#fail
I agree @OrangeJulius. I think some of my frustration with recruiting and rankings is my (our) fault. You see a guy being recruited by Bama for example and he must be awesome and a 98 blah blah blah. You see the Beavs recruiting a guy and he must be an 84. The 84 commits and isn’t recruited then so no one pays attention to his last year of football and he is a “low” recruit. I’m done with recruiting ranking stuff. I am looking forward to seeing what product Smith puts on the field. If it sucks, then he needs to bring in different staff and players.
Look at the baseball team. They get some great prospects but they aren’t the top prospects. Coaching really matters along with chemistry and mental preparation. I hope Smith can bring the program together. It’s such a small margin for winning/losing a handful of games each year.
I noted the scathing ops piece that Nemec did on Beaver recruiting early in this thread. His thesis was that Beav recruiting is broken and Smith is not fixing it.
I was just thinking this weekend’s WBB game against Oregon might get ugly since quacks are having a great season and we’re kinda meh this year with the injuries. Then I remembered Beavs are still a top ten team.
Rueck and the gals have spoiled me! :-)
Who the hell would down vote this? Yes, a 20-4 record is still pretty gaudy. I think Sabrina is a once in a decade type player. Oregon will come back to the pack in one or two seasons. Beavs might still get them at home.