I bet ya’ll thought VIIII was nine, but you gotta get up preeetty early in the morning to fool me. I took three years of Latin.
Share something we don’t know about you.
Let’s stay off politics as long as possible, then sew to a donkey the first guy who brings it up.
My car got hit by a train once.
It died on the tracks, and seconds later the gates came down and the light started flashing. I tried to restart it three times and it wasn’t having it. Bailed out and ran 20′ away- turned just in time to watch Amtrak take it out at 85 mph.
As best I can figure, the total time from car dying to collision was about 35 seconds. About 5 seconds from bailing out of the car to collision. Crazy, crazy fast.
Then, very very long story short, I was told by the train cop (and later by my insurance agent, and other people that had experience with the railroad) to expect a bill from the railroad in the $100,000s – well above the nonmedical insruance coverage that I have (and that is standard). I was told I’d be held liable for the delay costs associated with them shutting down the railroad to investigate for 3-4 hours on a busy holiday night. Four months later, the bill turned out to be peanuts.
Woh.
“I took Latin” rendered lame.
That’s nuts. Glad you did the smart thing my man.
Y’all see that the president of Uzbekistan’s daughter just went to jail? Make Stan great again!
I accept my donkey hat
Banned.
And it’s not a donkey hat. Google sewn to a donkey.
Damn
This is your fate, Nuc.
A donkey would be killed, its belly sliced open, and the entrails removed. The accused was then stripped of clothing and stuffed into the animal’s belly. The belly was stitched closed, leaving only the accused’s head outside, preventing suffocation but prolonging suffering.
Really dumb story, but I laugh whenever I remember it.
My high school buddies and I got a pound of weed for about $100 one summer after our junior year (fantastic deal). Summer conditioning for cross country was brutal and it was the thing we looked forward to the most the night after practices. It made the long runs the morning after (10+ miles) really nice.
One night we’re on the roof of my homie’s house. All of us are super baked and we bet our older friend $20 each that he couldn’t shoot the barn light about 200 feet away with a BB gun. He takes the gun, aims, pulls the trigger five seconds and, my god, the light goes out.
It took about 15 seconds before anyone realized what happened.
I bet that was near religious haha
The higher Luton gets drafted, the better for Smith recruiting a QB.
Converted essentially a wing t QB to a draftable NFL prospect.
Hopefully it can land a top QB in this next cycle.
I like this idea but it seemed Riley had qbs drafted often and it didn’t turn into much recruiting wise. Although I’m not sure Riley realized he didn’t always have to go for a project.
Can the same be said for Hodgins? Will highly recruited receivers shy away if he goes undrafted? Last I looked he was the 19th best wr available. I know it’s a deep wr draft but come on.
When I was about 11 a Korean tourist stole my soccer ball outside the Sydney Opera House and started a game of keep away from the chubby American boy. I learned that that a modern wonder of the world can bring shame and that Americans are not even average at futbol.
Me and a few buddies got attacked by gypsy ladies in Rome. One had a baby in a cardboard box (no joke) and waved it in front of us while another swooped in behind and tried to grab my friend’s camera. He stiff armed her away and we walked off while they shouted stuff at us in some language.
Ooofff Roma can be scary in Europe. I lost a 100 Euro and a camera to a gang of kids when I was 17 in Italy. Sometimes chasing a delicious smell down a weird alley is a bad idea….maybe not the restaurant had some amazing chicken.
Did anybody mention Charles Moore has entered the portal? I guess he hadn’t even been participating in practice, so…
Here’s a bold prediction. We win more games in 2021 than any Oregon State team ever has.
The 2020 season starts in February of 2021, we win 6 games and win a shit level bowl game. The 2021 season starts, we win 8 games and the bowl game. 16 wins in 2021.
Alpha broke the story. That’s a bold prediction but oddly plausible.
This remote draft has seemed to really speed the process up. Less trades but they are flying through the picks.
This has been possibly the best draft viewing experience ever. It’s flying by and it’s interesting seeing players and coaches at home.
Hey Nuke, maybe you’ve answered this before, but I was wondering what you did within the nuclear industry.
Nothing at all! I was lucky enough to graduate in 2011 about 3 months after Fukushima. I went from picking between 3 fine offers at different plants to being ghosted like a tinder date that doesn’t really match their profile.
I will ended up scrambling out a job at a local pump company in their nuclear division. Worked for them for 5 years before buying into my families engineering firm doing structural engineering.
Definitely not the path I hoped for but it has worked out.
One of the best things about this draft: I haven’t seen any highlights against the Beavs. A few years ago it seemed like every PAC-12 player had some footage against us.
There have been two. A corner undercutting Hodgins for a pick tonight and a punt return TD last night.
Sorry to break the news.
Aiyuk from ASU on the punt return. On his way to the bay.
yep. just before GB blew up the draft by taking the guy from Utah State.
Count me as one who doesn’t understand that pick.
exactly. when you are arguably one game away from appearing in a Super Bowl, you’d think you want a guy who can appear on the field this coming season. The Packers are a deceptively poorly managed franchise. They’ve skated by on 30 years of HOF Quarterbacking and won a couple of titles, but they could have had a run like they did under Lombardi. 5 titles in 7 years, still the best run ever.
Is it just me or is Tom Brady morphing into Kevin Bacon as he ages?
Middle school I helped set up the beach volleyball tourney in seaside. For a few years they had the pro circuit playing in it and drew some big crowds. After helping set up the pro court area, Gabriel Reece and a few other Pros came out to play/practice. I stood in there and tried to dig some of the spikes. They were very good and hit the ball very hard. Those were some good times.
I kept expecting Kevin Bacon to show up in this story
Hmmmm bacon.
Lol sorry meant to be a post not a reply. I suck.
Holy crap! I played in some amateur tournaments up there in the early to mid 90s. Also played on a usvba team that got 3rd in a tournament in Portland that had 100 teams from all over the Pacific Northwest in it. Not bad for some redneck Hicks from southern Oregon.
Aren’t there 6 degrees to reach Kevin Bacon in Bacon’s Law?
At age 12, I was a ball boy in a tennis tournament featuring John McEnroe, Andre Agassi and Monica Seles.
Two items- I was a journalist in college but did not pursue it as a career. Also, when I was 19, I was tasked with buying my boss and the true boss, Bruce Springsteen beers from the local deli (Heinekens). I had a beard back then and luckily didn’t get carded. Bruce came into the music store where I worked and bought several David Bowie cassettes, we invited him into the stockroom and he hung out for an hour, so they needed liquor!
I’ll piggy back Alex’s post.
I hit an elk with my truck on I5 just north of Coburg about 17 or 18 years ago. 4am going 70mph south bound no one anywhere near me. An elk herd appeared in my headlights, I pretty much stood on the brake pedal and closed my eyes thinking “this airbag is going to hurt”. The herd (about 10 elk) were standing all over the highway, some how they parted and i missed most of them except the dumb one that was looking the other way. I swerved and managed to hit it with my front drivers side headlight right in the head. Its body total missed a square front end shot saving me from a mouth full of airbag. I slide into the gravel on the right side coming to a stop.
I jumped out of my truck to check the damage. My adrenalin was running and I didn’t notice the elk was about 30 yards behind the truck in the center of the right lane. That is until a semi came down the road and ran the dead elk over. He pulled over down the road from me so I thought I would go see if he was alright. When I pulled out on the road you could see the 4 foot wide bright red streak from the semi dragging it. The driver had already called the cops when I got there and we discovered the elk wedged around his tandem axles. Gross is an understatement.
It jacked up the front corner panel and part of the hood directly above my head light which was better then going below that light because thats where the airbag sensor is. It was a 96 Ford halfton truck that I had just paid off and happened to take it off full coverage 2 weeks before hitting that elk.
That is so much unfortunate luck. Those lucid moments in adrenaline states are so surreal.
I did not get up very early this morning, but I’m confident that VIII is eight. I think you got up too early, Angry.
Good catch, Dooz. I see the original has now been edited to read VIIII
I was an elected official (3 terms).
FDR?!
he was elected four times.
How many times were you impeached?
never, BeeG. Let me try another take on Angry’s ice-breaker, since my first shot was borderline political–
I drove across the country three times in 8 months.
To avoid impeachment?
I should clarify: I was driving a FIAT 850 spider, 903 cc. To go 70 mph that motor was reaching 5500 rpm. Broke down in the middle of January on one of those trips in western Nebraska. The state police managed to get a truck stop to tow me 20 miles back to Chappell. The plastic part that rode the distributor cam snapped. Too many RPM. a $5 part, if that, but a truck stop couldn’t help me and the nearest FIAT dealer was almost 200 miles away in Fort Collins. Was in a quandary. Shop manager said he could tow me there. How much? 75. I only had 50. No credit cards, or cell phones as this was 1971. “Do you know anyone who could wire you some money?” Me: “what does that mean?” Mechanic: “someone you know just goes to a post office, pays them the money and we will get paid, and then we can haul you to FC.” Me: “Oh.” Reversed charges on a call home (anyone else here old enough to remember reversing phone charges?) Broke down around 1 p.m. Got to FC at 3 in the morning. Was on my way across Wyoming the next day. Never travelled without a spare set of points for the next 40 years.
Can’t remember what road it is, but the one that goes through SD and western NE is so pretty…great drive. Not a major highway. I didn’t realize Western NE was 5,000 ft until driving that.
I like sunrises and sunsets, anything with an engine (not a motor), building things with my own hands, and brown liquor aged at least 10 years.
an engine (not a motor)
Well said, brother. Misuse of those terms is a pet peeve for sure!
That sounds like a “turn-ons” list from the old Playboy Centerfold days.
Yep.
Or like what Crash Davis believes in (Bull Durham). Just watched that last night.
Ha, just watched that this morning:)
Do you like Pina Coladas?
Yes, and getting caught in the rain.
In my many years on earth and worldwide travels I have within ten feet of; Robert Kennedy, Teddy Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Queen Elizabeth, Vladimir Putin and Boris Johnson.
Responsible distancing! Who struck you as the most impressive?
Robert Kennedy. In early May of 1968 I went to a campaign event with a friend who was the editor of our high school paper. I was more interested in cutting class than the event. As “journalists” we were allowed early access for a small press conference, maybe 10-12 people. As a student my friend, deferred to the older reporters, tv and radio people. It was interesting to watch the interaction. After the press conference we adjourned to the steps of the county court house where he delivered a set 10-15 minute stump speech in front of few hundred people.
I was standing about 10 feet behind his right shoulder and remember thinking how easy it would have been to hurt him. There was absolutely no security. Less than one month later he was killed in Los Angeles.
Who knows how much that changed history? I believe, he would have won in 1968 and probably served until 1976. I had a poster of him in my dorm room freshman year. That poster followed me through 2-3 apartments until it vanished sometime in the early 70’s.
I saw him that same year in Rapid City, SD give a speech in front of the big hotel in town.
Thanks for the answer and story! Thats some surreal history. I was born in 89 so I can still remember going on planes with almost no security but I very much remember how EVERYTHING changed after 9/11. I expect JFK/RFK murders had a similar affect on famous peoples security details.
good list. my high profile propinquities would be Richard Nixon, Nelson Rockefeller, John McCain, and Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Does Mike Riley count?
No!
didn’t think so. I should have mentioned that I’ve met you, BeeG, and OOB.
C-list celebrities:)
Before becoming a reverend I starred in an 80’s sitcom, and spent time in rehab with Corey Feldman.
Mr. Belvedere?
ALF?
Jan-Michael Vincent?
Must be Fanno because he’s done everything…just ask him and he’ll tell you. According to Fanny, he’s a very successful girls basketball coach, we’ve watched him light up the OSU Beavers MBB team on TV while play for the Ducks MBB, he’s rich, etc., etc. So there’s absolutely no reason why he can’t be a very famous TV actor too. He’s the most interesting man in the world in his own mind.
I have never acted Smarmi. Here’s an honest question….will you let me live rent free in your head forever? Seek some professional help friend. You’re obviously dealing with something very heavy.
FannnOOOOOO-SSSSSSS-UUUUUUU!
Fish in a barrel for you too
In high school (1987), we went on a trip to the Soviet Union and I got to see a waxy looking Vladimir Lenin in his tomb.
Thats wild man. That you even traveled to the Soviet Union is kinda crazy.
It was something else to be there after being raised during the cold war and the near continuous narrative that they may nuke us at any time. There was about 50 of us students, and a handful of teachers were our chaperones that gave us a surprising amount of latitude. They let us leave most nights just to go around town (Moscow and Leningrad). We all brought a bunch of stuff to trade, (clothes, jeans, music on cassette) and one night we met up with two random guys and hung out in their apartment to trade stuff.
At a prior job I worked at a music/movie store. Cashed out several semi-celebs during my time there. Some of the more memorable were Kenny G, Mark and Brian(radio personalities), some TrailBlazers (Damon Stoudamire, Rasheed Wallace, Derek Anderson) and Sir Mix Alot.
Stoudamire came in the same day he had some pretty major weed charges dismissed and I clearly remember he bought the DVD for Method Man and Redman’s “How High” from me.
Sir Mix-Alot was driving an escalade and was wearing a fur coat.
Stoudamire was driving the infamous school bus H2
Mark and Brian were pretty funny.
Loved those guys. I always listened to KGON on the way to work in the mornings. I remember when I first saw them in person. They looked absolutely nothing like what envisioned!
The place I worked hosted a meet and greet with them when they released their CD. We had a several hour long line throughout the day and somehow they put me on door security despite being a 150lb HS senior. Was a fun day though
After two weeks of ground training, it was jump week. First jump everything was fine; didn’t have to get kicked out the door by the jumpmaster, chute opened just like it’s supposed to, perfect PLF (parachute landing fall), I thought this was pretty cool and not all that difficult. Then the second jump. A little more wind, a little more awkward angle coming in — landed like a sack of potatoes. Concluded it wasn’t that easy after all. But the coolest thing of all (this came later) was my first night jump with no moonlight. You can’t see shit, but hope the Air Force put you out over the drop zone and then listen very hard. You can actually hear when you’re about to hit the DZ because it’s absolutely quiet until you pick up the sound created by even very light winds across the ground.
Is there a connection between Ripper and rip-cord?
No, Ripper, or Rip, has been a tag since I was little. Interestingly enough (or not) I never pulled a rip cord. We went out hooked to static lines in the aircraft (which pulled our mains out) and would only have had to pull a rip cord if the main had a problem and we needed to pull the reserve.
Actually an edit to the above: I was on the DZ packing my chute once when I saw a kid coming down with big problems with his main. He pulled his releases from the main and deployed his reserve just before landing. Everyone ran over and wanted to know why he’d released from the main canopy. He said casually “I just thought it was the best thing to do.” Then he fainted.
I met Brett Favre before he was “Brett Favre.” I was stationed in the Navy in Gulfport, MS at the Seabee base(talk about Luck O da Beavs!).
I became friends with a reservist who had gone to Southern Miss. We go to a happy hour sometime in January after Favre’s senior year. The local paper had articles about him every day or so it seemed. My friend say’s, “you want to meet Brett Favre, my dad is their insurance agent.” To humor him I say sure, but I’m thinking, who cares about this yahoo from Southern Miss. Big deal? So we go over and Favre is hammered to the extent of slurring his words. Apparently this was a pretty common state for him. Man if I only knew! I wish this had been in the cell phone era, as I would have a picture with a shit faced and “old drinking buddy” Brett Favre blown up and in the man cave.
great story, BeeG. Let’s hope the Pack has a good day. Yesterday was an improvement.
My brush with greatness….I talked with Mark Banker at Trysting Tree Golf Course while he was still the D-Coordinator in Nebraska. Oh, more importantly, I’ve also exchanged pleasantries with Fanno on several occasions. He asked for my autograph since I am the Great One and, well, he’s not. I also have met Mark Hatfield and met a few members of Oregon’s Congressional Delegation on Capitol Hill. Gotta admit though, Fanny is the most amazing of all as the guy is just a tremendously talented liar!
@GS, don’t let him live in your head. We get it Fanno is not your favorite guy/gal.
Move on and tell us something interesting!
Lol. Just told you something interesting. I met Mark banker and Mark Hatfield.
Krol- He has been doing this for 7-8 years now. He’s only made two posts today and both of them referenced me. I have been living rent free in his head for years. That tells you how utterly insecure he is as a human. Its like mind control. Fish in a barrel with swammi. He claims to be in his 60’s which makes it even more sad. A “grown” man that has the mental capacity of a 13 year old. His cousin did something to him years ago that obviously F’d him for life. Its almost unbearable to watch him go through it.
And here you are as a Duck Troll in a Beaver Blog talking trash. Find much irony in that Fanny? Of course not because as I previously posted, you just don’t get it and most likely never will. In the “60s” LMAO….I’m nearly 85 LOL…..hook, line, stinker. You bite every time but that’s no surprise either. A sucker born every minute. You better go get that new Sabrina Egonescu jersey while it’s still hot along with your new jersey for Herbert. LOL…what a douche bag.
Again, get some help friend. Its been a rough go for you obviously. I don’t wear jerseys of professional athletes. I’m not 12. If you’re truly 85, its even more sad for you because you have the mental capacity of a pre-teen.
Says someone who refers to Jake Luton as “Brokeback Luton.” Another matter of irony for someone making fun of a spinal injury and then homophobic reference to top it all off. You epitomize tasteless, crass and homophobic comments. I’m betting you’re a big Trump fan too. “If I’m truly 85….wait a minute you said I claimed to be in my 60s which is another lie and how can I be in my 80s and 60s at the same time? I guess the same way I could be the original Fanno66 and Swammi at the same time in Oregonlive which I wasn’t and neither am I in my 60s, 70s, or 80s…..keep guessing Sally, keep guessing.
There you go again talking about homophobia. I didn’t make any homophobic reference but you keep on doing so. Strange fascination with enemas and now this. You have some real issues swammi. There are professionals that get paid to help people like you. All you have to do is pick up the phone. Rooting for you little buddy
Kim Jong Un in “vegetative state” per Fox.
Isn’t he only 36 years old?
Not that 36 y/o cant have health issues. But a heart issue at 36 seems pretty unusual. Strange that it just happen to hit a world leader.
Yeah. Report is from a Japanese source/paper.
Korean papers saying he’s in a “meditative state” and they look forward to hearing what he finds…lol
Trying my best not to make this political but given the relationship will Trump want to go to a state funeral if one happens? How odd would that be?
Pretty sure Dennis Rodman will be one of the Pallbearers if they have that kind of thing.
Hes not exactly in prime health. He has had literally no boundries in his behavior ever.
Un is one pork chop away from wrestling sumo style.
That dude is made of squish. he couldn’t sumo a recliner.
If he is in a vegetative state in Korea, does he get turned into Kimchi?
Gotta bottle him up first!
Is he watching Fox?
Any predictions for the Beavs? I’m gonna go Luton in the 4th, Hodgins in the 7th, Brandel undrafted.
I hope the Jets steal Hodgins…
They want a “developmental QB”, too, so maybe they get him and Luton. I’d be down.
I think Luton goes in 6, 7, or undrafted.
I expected him to be a round 4/5 guy but teams aren’t taking QBs which in hidsight should’ve been expected. Guys like Cam Newton and Jameis Winston don’t even have jobs yet.
Agree on Hodgins
Well I don’t really want Luton but it would be funny if he was with Hodgins again on the Jets…
I’m not sure what developmental QBs are left. Haven’t followed that closely. I just hope we’re smart enough to steal the deal of the draft in Hodgins
Fromm and Eason are both still available
I’m hoping Seattle who needs a back up QB get Huntley from Utah. I wanted Hurts if he fell to round 4 (clearly didn’t happen) but Huntley in round 6 feels right.
I wasn’t impressed at all watching Fromm. Eason is a better prospect than Luton. He’s intriguing. Best of these three imo
For the Jets I agree. I like Huntley for Seattle because if you have a mobile starter I like having a mobile backup too.
Was hoping they’d get PJ walker from the XFL but Carolina outbid them.
I’m counting on a run of 4 or 5 QBs in round 4. Who knows though.
I’m just not seeing the teams in need. I know everyone likes to believe QB play is terrible in the NFL but when former #1 picks who started for years can’t get contracts the evidence suggests the NFL likes the talent available at the position.
What are Newton and Winston’s asking price? We’re headed into recession and games with no fans, so owners aren’t going to want to pay a lot.
I think 4th round is where teams start selecting developmental guys for down the road, so immediate need isn’t a huge factor.
Surprised Cam can’t find a landing spot. Kind of funny that Carolina dumped him due to injury concerns when Teddy Bridgewater has a pretty extensive injury history.
I am guessing they want mid-level starter money (10-15 million) but
NFL teams can’t really “cut costs” like you suggest. They are required to spend 95% of the salary cap over a rolling 2 year period so even if they cut costs to say 90% of the cap this year they’d be forced to spend that cash in 2021.
ean, the issue with the developmental QB idea is that most NFL teams carry that player on their practice squad now instead of having 3 QBs on their active roster.
Practice squad players can be stolen by any other NFL team if they are willing to sign them to their active roster. Sneaking a 4th Round QB through waivers and hoping they don’t get poached from your practice squad is a big time risk.
I think the run happens but in rounds 6/7.
Yeah, I know what your are saying but I think teams are getting away from the Josh McCowns of the world. Crusty vets that won’t win you games and wont lose you games either. It makes more sense to have upside a the backup QB spot, your season is shot if you lose your starter anyway. I mean you take a decent project in the 4th/5th round and they do decent you can net a 2nd rounder down the road pretty easy.
Yeah, especially if you don’t plan to compete this year anyway.
But I think teams that have a elite starer might still want that crusty back up to keep them treading water at least. Especially now that 14 teams make the playoffs.
I wish they still allowed the roster exemption for the 3rd QB. It’d give a few more borderline guys a chance to show what they got.
The game day roster exemption still exists (the NFL actually now allows 48 active players, it was 45 (46 with an “emergency” QB) when that rule went into effect), teams just choose not to carry the 3rd QB on their 53 man roster like they used too.
I think most teams have just decided they’d rather risk having to use a RB at QB than waste a valuable slot on a QB.
How often did 3rd QBs really see game action? About as often as the NHL emergency goalie (best rule in sports) gets used based on my memory.
Although rosters are now 55 instead of 53 so maybe more teams will decide to carry a developmental QB moving forward.
AP to the Giants pick 255
Can’t believe I forgot him.
Me too.
Good for him! Hope he makes some $$$ before its over. He’ll likely bust some long runs in pre-season, if there is one…then he’ll stick somehwere. I thought he would be a good fit for KC, though not a need there.
Is this a guess?
Yeah it was a dumb prediction responding to Ean above.
Jets draft some dude Morgan…apparently very strong arm (who cares, can he QB?)…seems like a reach. But I know nothing about the guy.
I don’t know anything either but was reading that the he has a lot of upside but struggles with accuracy and touch FWIW.
Jets draft the only two traits you can’t coach and fall for the arm strength…sounds right. There’s a reason they’re the Jets.
It’s the 4th round, every QB left is flawed.
I think it was Morgan or Fromm.
well the same BS blurb I read said he has strong leadership skills so that is something you can’t coach all that much.
Tell that to officer training =P
Hodgins should have come back for a Senior year.
Yup were 6 picks into the 5th round. 20 WR have been selected.
I remember some talk here about Smith being somewhat caught off guard by Hodgins’ announcement. It sounded like JS was not called on to offer much feedback. It may still work out for Hodgins, but man this was a deep receiving class. It’s surface stuff, but he didn’t even make first team in his own league, so some would have noticed that. It’s always a risk staying for another year, but he wasn’t getting the national notice like Cooks received.
Yeah, I almost always say go pro if it is close. Hodgins is one of the rare cases where I think it made sense to come back for another year. Of course you wonder about the behind the scenes booster cash that affects these decisions. Clearly OSU doesn’t have deep pocketed sketch ball boosters.
I think it was a family decision. Hard to support a young family while doing a major sport and school.
Daschel said that there was one scout saying that Luton was the “next best available QB”. Was it his grandmother? Once again, homer Daschel putting out fluff pieces just so he can stay in the locker room. I wonder what would happen if a beat writer actually wrote non-biased work?
they’d get stonewalled from school media stuff
Exactly. Which makes the idea of sports journalism a joke. Looking at Daschels work makes me puke. He’s never said a bad word about. Tinkle and Tinkle is an absolute joke as a coach. Can’t recruit outside of family members and doesn’t know what’s he’s looking at when he does. Should have been fired 3 years ago. Same with Crepea. Sellouts, although Crepea a little less. Zero objectivity. That’s why I like this site and others.
Tinkle is very well liked by the handful of people I know that have worked with him or met him in passing. But that only buys you an extra year or two. Those same people are now saying things like “great guy but in a tough business, got to have results at some point”
The beavs are going to really struggle this year without Tinkle Jr. Tinkle Sr. has done nothing on the recruiting trail (yet again) to change my mind. He is more suited to lower D1 Montana type talent.
Been to several clinics he has given (Along with Rueck, Altman and Graves) and was least impressed with Tinkle. He’s not flexible and tries to pigeon-hole players into his system instead of working his system around his players. For a struggling coach, that is a recipe for disaster.
For local sports journalism, it is/was hard to beat Eggers. Hated to see him caught in the print news crash.
He actually dug deep to expose the headline whoring and slipshod reporting by the Big Zero over the Heimlich story. Presented facts and insights that gave open minded folks a more complete picture, by far.
Sure, he had some “homer” in him (lookin’ at MR), but was more old school and factual; did some nice background pieces and even covered the occasional entertainment item. Always was impressed at the quality AND volume of work one guy could put out, wonder what kind of supporting cast he had (kinda think none). No comparison to others in the same market.
Bob Lundeberg was good. His book on Heimlich will be worth waiting for.
You’re so right, wanna. I thought of that after posting but didn’t want to overload angry’s email!
While Eggers departure was a rough deal, he was slated to retire in a few months anyway. Lundeberg, OTOH, really got the short end; and, just looking at the guy the GT kept makes it burn more. Gress spends 2/3 of his time just repeating stuff handed out by the sports info folks. Not close to being a true “beat” reporter. Looks like his experience in the business trumped Lundebergs superior journalistic skills.
Bob is in Boise and does a podcast occasionally, didn’t know he planned a book on Luke. Good idea.
Oh, and Danny Moron?…….spends his time re-tweeting “progressive ideas”. RE-Tweeting.
Like Nemec isn’t a homer for the Ducks. Blah, blah, blah….
Nemec is semi-objective and prints both good and bad on both teams. Don’t be ridiculous. He also isn’t a beat writer. Read better
Nemec is semi objective….thats like.saying. you are a semi objective. Duck troll.have you ever thought you’d be better off in a duck blog vs a. Beaver blog?
You clearly can’t read very well. I think that has already been determined though. Stupid is as stupid does for you swammi
It is interesting how you blame Nemec for osu’s recruiting failures. Telling it like it is should be what journalists always do whether the reader likes it or not. He isn’t wrong very often its just not what you like to hear. That’s a you problem
Rent Free Babyyyyyy!!!!!!
Yes I am. In your head. Rattled you too
I bet he is not far off.
Fromm is the only QB left I’d bet on most teams having ranked higher than Luton.
The Patriots just took a Kicker over one of the QBs. I think that says it all……
I know the Pats have the track record to say otherwise but their draft this year has been seemingly bad… I say seemingly because nobody knows who did well until like 2-4 years from now.
Once-upon-a-time there was an NFL website where you could track by player name or school. I can’t seem to find it this year. Any ideas?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players
Fromm off the board. The drop off from him to other QBs is huge…good get for Bills in round 5
There goes Fromm, lets see if a team reaches for Luton coming up now
With only one really respectable year and a bad back injury, I think Luton goes undrafted free agent route.
Someone is going to get a steal in Hodgins 6’4″ and stick-um like hands in the red zone? Packers, Rams, Saints…Tampa Bay? Seattle?
Those hands, along with the overall team red zone performance were mentioned in the podcasts recently linked here. Gotta re-listen to be sure but IIRC Beavs were said to be #1 in red zone performance.
Yes, he will be a steal this late. Big body. Great hands like you said. In all the 4 reciever sets that are run today he wont be the 1st option but he is going to be a big surprise for whoever’s got the smarts to grab him.
Anybody ever see what Hodgins ran in the 40? Not the only metric I know, or the most important, just curious.
4.61, it is the main reason he is falling, NFL teams aren’t sure he can get enough separation with that speed in the NFL.
Isn’t that about what Jerry Rice ran? That’s funny. Largent was another HOF guy who could get separation without high end, straight line speed.
Hodgins will be able to get separation in the NFL….
Not saying I agree with the NFL’s assessment. But this draft is loaded at WR so I am not shocked he is still available.
I posted below but that’s just not true. Most of the nfls best receivers right now are in the 4.5-4.6 range.
We aren’t talking about how good he will be.
We are talking about when he will be drafted. And 4.6 speed at least partially caused the drop.
Remember “slow” guys like Steve Largent didn’t just fall in the draft but didn’t even make the team that drafted them’s roster yet still went onto a Hall of Fame career.
I have no doubt Hodgins can play in the NFL but Hodgins did slip due to speed.
jake to jags
Luton goes to Jacksonville in round 6
I should be a draft analyst. Luton off the board in Round 6. Next QB after Fromm.
Jaguars to back up the stache from WSU.
backup Trevor Lawrence
Hey Angry, how’d you end up a Jets fan again? That’s some tough luck, Jets and Beavers…
For any Seattle Seahawk followers/fans, does it seem like Schneider has been drafting poorly these last several years? It seems like Seattle has come to prioritize being unconventional over other player evaluation criteria, almost a “style over substance” approach.
They’ve always struggled with their first picks. Really outside of maybe Bruce Irvin and definitely Frank Clark the Seahawks waste their first pick most years.
Beyond that they have done pretty well.
I really like their draft this year. Darrell Taylor has the talent to be an elite pass rusher, Damian Lewis looks better than most OL they’ve picked (its not a DL they plan to convert for a change), and I love the TE from Stanford.
Rather Brooks works out or not is almost a bonus since I just assume their top pick will be a bust.
Thanks.
I like Lewis at OG, always like the mean guards (would like to see OSU develop some mean guards). SEA has needed o-line upgrades for some time. Seems absurd not to have addressed it as a priority. Puts Wilson at risk and wastes some of his best young years. Their offense seems to devolve into sandlot because of the lack of quality line play and sandlot won’t consistently get it done.
I wouldn’t mind Hodgins ending up in SEA. Wilson can sure place the ball and could take advantage of Hodgins skills.
The RB they took is also considered the best pass blocking back in the draft so that should help too.
I’d be fine with Hodgins but I rather have KJ Hill who I can’t believe is still available. I’d love him in the slot in Seattle. Wouldn’t complain about Hodgins but Seattle have Lockett, Metcalf, Olson, Dissly, and now Parkinson to go get those jump balls.
I’d love a receiver that can find those holes in the zones and make a couple guys miss from the slot.
Hodgin’s ran the fastest wr shuttle at the combine. Faster then Antionio Brown.
He’s going to be a great/underrated chain mover and td grabber for someone.
Except that drill is more for slot guys. Maybe Hodgins can make it as a slot guy. He wasn’t really asked to do that at OSU so NFL teams probably have question marks about it.
Like that TE pick also. And the OG seems solid and they have needed help for awhile on the o-line.
I think Angry has mentioned before he’s from Back East (maybe even Jersey.)
Yes, born and raised in NJ/NY area. Mets, too…ugh.
It’s pretty impressive that Luton went from basically not even a camp invite before the season started to a 6th round pick. And he’ll actually get a shot at playing with Jacksonville not taking any other QBs. He’s a career backup at best obviously.
Maybe God is paying him back for the spinal injury.
Beavs have had a good track record of being career backup QBs.
Not sure I agree with that assessment. Of course I am pretty sure if angry goes back a few years I said I thought Luton would be drafted the minute he arrived at OSU.
That by no means indicates I believe he was the best option for OSU (should have gone with McMaryion).
Remember, under Smith, it was the first time Luton had the same OC for two years straight. Having some consistency seemed to really help his play. I wouldn’t have been surprised with a 3:1 TD:INT for him last year, nearly 10:1 was shocking, though I think he still got lucky on some potential INTs : )
Still takes too long to make decisions and throws the odd pumpkin.
Maybe that’s why Jacksonville took him. They seem to be setting up to tank for Trevor Lawrence or whoever the top QB is next year.
Agreed. Minshew at JAX on the other hand seems to make decisions quicker. I thought this was an odd pick by JAX.
Need a backup. Luton wasn’t drafted to start.
Jake certainly proved me wrong with how he played for most of his super-senior year, but his many deficiencies were easily exposed by quality teams.
You gotta hand it to him for sticking with it and being coachable. He was such a disaster under GA.
I expected him to be a 7th rounder or to sign as a FA, so seeing him get picked up in the 6th by a team that needs a productive backup is a bit surprising.
Hopefully he isn’t thrust into action early, as I could see that being a disaster for him, especially in regards to his injury history.
Project value of his contract is $2,816,750 with a signing bonus of $181,750, certainly could be a lot worse.
Neat deal
Hmm brandel goes before Hodgins…
Brendan to Vikings
Yuk.
ditto
Brandel goes to Minnesota in round 6
Thanks for the correct name, phone isn’t logged in and it autocorrected as I hit submit.
Who would have bet Hodgins would last the longest prior to this season?
AP and Hodgins are both absolute steals now. At this point it might be better for Hodgins to get a free agent contract. He could have a giant year with a decent QB and then land a real contract.
Hodgins to Buffalo
Good spot.
Will get to practice against Poyer….
Why do you think this is a good spot? Weak WR overall corps? They recently added a big deep threat, correct?
Good QB.
Good *running QB. Big arm but he’s one of the most (the most?) inaccurate starting QBs in the league right now. Don’t love the spot…
Yeah, looked him up, something like 58% completion percentage last year, some really poor games against better teams. They traded for that Vikings WR to be his big play/deep threat, I hope he develops his accuracy enough to use Hodgins’ strengths.
I remember when 58% was good.
So funny how much the game has changed. Dan Marino is in the hall of fame with a career completion of 59% and John Elway (who I consider the best QB ever) was only at about 57%.
Maybe Buffalo plans to build an offense that is a little less reliant on an accurate short passing game?
In addition, I expect Allen to get more accurate. Right now he looks to run first, I think Buffalo got him these weapons to help out.
With all that, if there is one NFL stadium where a strong arm might be as or more important than accuracy it might be Buffalo.
I remember a lot of chatter last year when they traded Zay Jones, seemed like there fans were glad Jones was gone but lamenting a lack of wr depth
CBS Sports gives Buffalo an A- for the pick:
“Spectacular value, but just a crowded WR room now in Buffalo. Hodgins is tall with strong, reliable hands and elite ball skills. Above-average athlete for his large frame. Good on double moves. Not a burner. (Chris Trapasso)”
Isaiah goes to buffalo in round 6
What a steal.
Now I get to watch him torch the Jets.
Hey NFL, hire me!
Bill December 4, 2019 at 10:16 am
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My thoughts on Hodgins declaring,
On a pure football basis, it’s not the best decision. He would benefit from another year. Likely have better numbers next year. But it sounds like a lot of other factors pushed him to go.
From a draft perspective, he’s looking at best a mid round guy. At worst undrafted. Nearly all depends on his 40 time.
The good – he’s got great hands, good size, wins the 1 on 1 battles in the red zone. Lots of production.
The ok – routes could be sharper, a little more strength will help
The bad – not a burner, getting separation will be much harder in NFL
Prediction – guessing he’ll run a 4.6ish 40. Probably a 6th round pick.
It’ll take him a couple seasons but he should turn into a solid NFL wr, no matter where he gets drafted. I do agree with angry that he’s going to be a good player.
I mentioned this earlier but NFL gms love to talk down guys they actually like in hopes they drop and obtain cheaper. Hodgins could end up being one of those guys.
If he runs fast, he’ll skyrocket up the boards. 3rd round at best.
And slower than 4.6, he’ll go undrafted.
Wow! Way to go out on a limb. Those are all obvious observations that anyone who watched him play would say.
Looks like Buffalo is building a future offense. Zach Moss, Fromm, Davis, Hodgins. Got quality guys for great value. Too bad they need defense more than anything.
https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/teams?team=BUF&year=2020
They had the 5th ranked defense in the NFL last year.
I think they’ve been smart, need to get Allen weapons.
Love to see them unseat the Patriots as the team in the east. Go for Hodgins, i hope he thrives.
Got Diggs at WR in trade for a deep threat, Moss can play at RB now, Hodgins can play now…their offense should get pretty dangerous if Allen can improve his consistency and completion percentage, particularly against better teams. These players will certainly provide him the opportunity to do that.
IIRC they already have pretty good depth at WR. I’m not sure Hodgins will see much playing time barring an injury or two.
If my fantasy history says anything NFL receivers spend 50% of their time nursing injuries.
Analysts say that ILB, DL and CB are top needs. I don’t follow them but it sounds like they lost some people or are expecting to.
First pick was a DE. But those needs seem to be more based on future needs/and or depth needs. Their defense is pretty set for 2020.
Sounds like a great situation then. Maybe Hodgins shows his stuff in camp and makes it on the field this year. He can play any receiver position. He ran out of slot loads this year when we were trying to disguise his routes.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/nfl-draft-contract-values-2017-4%3famp
Interesting read on contract values for draftees. Basically, things really fall off after the 3rd round.
So basically after the third round its signing bonus you are fighting for?
Trending on Portland twitter right this minute
1 Jake Luton
2 Beavs
3 Jags
Well that’s important
Didn’t say it was important, diipshit, it was more a matter of interest that an under covered team in this state was garnering interest at that moment, more interest in fact than the overhyped phighting Phils propaganda program.
But feel free to spend your free time following along here, flappo, since your team apparently doesn’t hold your interest long enough to spend time with like minded fans.
Or maybe they’ve grown weary of your boorish behavior and banished you, leaving you all alone and nowhere else to go.
Must be why you posted it. Under covered for a reason I suppose don’t you? aka….irrelevant. Remember that boy. They have sucked for how many years now? Basketball included. Did you want someone to tweet about how bad they are? Lmao
Dude, you are so good at the insults. Do you tell short people they’re short? Do you tell people in a swimming pool that they’re wet? Why do you think telling us stuff we already know is insulting? Seems like you might have trouble at home and you’re looking for an outlet. If that’s it, then by all means, let the insult therapy continue.
You already know they are irrelevant? Might want to tell OJ that. He thinks people tweeting about Luton, beavs and Jags in a local market in Oregon is important
No he doesn’t. Read better. But continue if you must.
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Not sure I get the obsession with speed and Hodgins. So many burners who are awful all around WRs. So many slower guys who are great WRs. If you watch the guy he’s clearly great. Elite agility and hands, gets open with ease…Buffalo got a 1st round talent in the 6th. The problem now is since he was labeled a 6th round talent, he’s going to have a longer path to starting due to that bias.
I think it is more the combination of being more of a flanker with 4.6 speed. If Hodgins had demonstrated himself to be more of a slot guy I’m not sure he would have dropped as much. That said KJ Hill who is definitely a slot guy also ran a 4.6 and fell.
Have any modern receivers succeeded with 4.6 speed on the outside recently? I may have to do some research.
This is also an odd year because teams had less to go on (less interviews, visits, and pro days) so that probably hurt Hodgins too.
Ultimately I think Hodgins is gonna be asked to learn how to play the slot, his success depends on rather he fits that role in my opinion.
Mike Evans – 4.53
Keenan Allen – 4.75 (good Lord)
DeAndre Hopkins – 4.57
AJ Green – 4.5
JuJu Smith-Schuster -4.54
Mike Thomas – 4.57
Devonte Adams – 4.56
I could go on but considering that list I think Hodgins is plenty fast enough. He’s a good day from beating many of those times and he is a bigger body than most. Catch radius, hand skills, route running, and body awareness/hops seem to be really important. Blocking will also help you get in as a #2.
This makes sense to me cause the fastest guys on the field are usually dbs. If all you have is speed then you are not getting open in the NFL.
He’s got all the tools to make a QB very happy.
Yep. Speed doesn’t matter. It’s all about routes and/or agility. Amazing the NFL doesn’t realize this yet.
Holy hell. Calvin Johnson was 6’5 and ran a 4:35. I knew he was a freak and amazing talent but what. Jeeeebers
Don’t fully agree with that. Speed still separates guys even in the NFL.
I think Hodgins can be a solid pro. Just for the record.
But speed still matters. The Chiefs were the fastest team in the NFL last year. You’ll never convince that didn’t play a part in their title run.
It matters, but it’s probably 3rd or 4th most important skill.
Remember James Jett?
Don’t disagree. This was just a really really deep and talented draft for WR’s. In a typical draft I doubt Hodgins drops so far but 2020 was very WR heavy.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter, he gets a chance to prove it on the field now.
@Young – speed is very important on a team to stretch the defense but it does not equal production as a wide out. Julio Jones and Adam Thielan are the only receivers in the top 10 last year with a 40 under 4.5. So yes burners are essential for a good team but a 40 does not mean a receiver will be elite in the NFL.
Don’t recall claiming it does.
I’ll still take a DK Metcalf with 4.3 speed and size over someone with just one or the other.
Can’t disagree with that. He’s an absolute specimen. His measurables are shockingly close to Calvin Johnson and he was decent too! Idk how often you can get a 6’4+ dude that runs in the mid to low 4.3 40 though. I don’t feel like doing the research but maybe 1 every three years? 5 years?
What did Randy Moss run? Was he sub 4.4?
Especially in the 2nd round, what was the NFL thinking last year? I was so excited about Metcalf when they took him.
Moss ran a 4.25
Don’t get me started on Moss. I remember him falling in that draft and when Seattle took Anthony Simmons (who had an okay career at LB) I lost it. Wanted Moss so bad, remember watching him at Marshall and being in love.
I did notice Randy’s kid Thadius went undrafted. Thought he looked like a solid TE prospect for LSU.
Mosses year (1998) was the last year of hand times. By no means does that mean he wasn’t extremely fast, just doesn’t translate well.
The raiders uc davis product keelan doss ran a 4.56 at his pro day, became a fan favorite, and , after a side trip in the preseason, actually had playing time on the raiders last year. The raider we corps completely disintegrated last year as well so that provides some explanation, the point being a ‘slow’ yet productive receiver can see the field, from there Hodgins will have to prove he’s worth keeping around.
I think Hodgins can succeed at the NFL level, but to do so he will have to be a very, very good technician (like everyone on that list, but esp Keenan Allen). Don’t think he has the physical traits to succeed without exceptional skill. Skill is a big part of his game now, but he still has a ways to go.
As such, I think (and always thought) it was a huge mistake coming out early. He needed to come into the league as technically developed as possible, and another year in college would have really helped with that. Now that he’s a 6th round pick, he’ll struggle to get reps and significant coaching attention. He could succeed and I hope he does, but I could easily see him falling through the cracks and never really getting the opportunity to fully develop.
Luck o’ da Beavs…
Young –
Keenan Allen plays 50/50 in the slot. He’s best there but can succeed on the outside too.
However, he’s the best route runner in the league (only real competition would have been Antonio Brown). He makes up for physical deficiencies with exceptional skill, and I think that’s what Hodgins will need to do too. Biggest issue I see is opportunity for him.
Good call on Keenan Allen. I know Angry made a similar comp.
Kim Jong-un reportedly dead. Not official yet.
Couldn’t happen to a better guy….
What round?
I will enjoy a beer to that news.
Supposedly his sister could take over and she’s more brutal than he is.
A mean girl!
A female leading North Korea? Never happen.
Remember Trump called him a great leader. Lol
Any news on laval, togiai, or pierce?
Both probably free agents. Ap will be a steal and a half. Who’s Laval?
Maybe Gus Lavaka, guard?
Ah yeah. He’s a deep outside shot for a 7th round. Lavaka and Aydon are likely free agents.
Yes. Thank you!
I played football in high school against Chad Kota( he ended up playing in the NFL for a few years). I would have never put his skill level at NFL talent in high school. Guess he really developed in college.
You see that a ton with football. The NFL is the one league I’d argue that no kid is ready for out of high school.
Played high school football with Jed Weaver who played several NFL seasons. He had the size but wasn’t special in high school. His brother who I also played with was even bigger but we abused him in practice, still went onto start at Center at UO.
Football is a developmental game.
Its Chad Cota FYI. He hits like a truck was the reason his played for Panthers. I lived across from Autzen in college at the Chase Village Apartments and played basketball against every day in the off-season on the outdoor court. He was built like a F350 and very difficult to move given his height. Solid muscle with no conscious or fear of injury. Much like John Boyett.
Ok I spelled his name wrong. When he played for Ashland high school he wasn’t built like a truck. In great shape but f350 no way. Speed was a little above average, did have really good footwork as a wr though. I don’t even remember him playing on defense when they played us. I never followed what he did after high school until I saw him playing in the NFL. So that’s my experience with him. Played against him 3 times in 2 years. Sure am glad ol Fanno is here to set my experience with him straight.
Get your personal experience right. Good Lord man!
If you had eaten more protein and went easy on the carrots, I’m pretty sure you would have been an All Pro in the NFL.
Draft eval on “I like carrots alot” – Great vision, no burst, lacks top end speed. Does not run with power.”
I remember Quizz running right through Boyett annnd knocking him on his ass and it’s was epic.
1st thing i thought of when i saw boyett’s name.
Funny Smarmi- I remember Blount (or was it Masoli) making creampuff Kristic wish he had never gone out for football. It happens. I think he woke up a week later. Little wins for you I guess in an overall abysmal fan career at osu.
Just trying to help you recollect what you were doing when playing trombone in the band
We were loaded with talent(none of which went to the NFL) and won the state championship one of the years. I rotated between lb, de & strong safety. I’ll be the 1st to admit it, I was undersized for lb & de. The coaches loved my football smarts and fear of nothing on the field. Looking back, that’s probably why I had to have knee surgery a few years ago and need surgery on my back now. I was so rough on my body back then.
hey, somebody has to say it, GA recruited a modicum of talent his last cycle. Not quite to the late-Riley level, but close.
3 drafted and 3 likely free agents. Not bad.
I always thought GA was a better recruiter than Riley…he just was a madman with head games, playing favorites, hiring the incompetent old boys club, etc.
Noah Toagai signs with the eagles
He could be a good pro if he stays healthy.
And catches the ball consistently.
Haha
And blocks!
So if he turns into someone else. Maybe there’s a SJW operation for that??
Damn, Utah had 7 guys drafted.
Pierce goes to Chicago where he’ll probably battle Nall for the 3rd string spot
Seahawks signed Anthony Gordon? Why? Why?
Ravens meanwhile steal Tyler Huntley, only 16% of his passes were considered “uncatchable” last year. 3rd in the country, 2nd to Burrow amongst draft prospects. Super bummed Seattle is wasting a spot on Gordon while the Ravens steal the perfect candidate to back Russ up (not that he isn’t a good option to back Jackson up).
Seems like SEA could have used that Trent Williams trade? A 3rd and a 5th over two years?
Naw, Seattle has a solid LT in Duane Brown.
It is the rest of the line that struggles.
I am also of the opinion that Russell’s style of play will always lead to Seattle giving up more sacks than you’d like.
Kind of like how Barry Sanders led the league in rushes for loss for most of his career.
Sometime Russell’s magic has downsides.
I don’t watch much NFL anymore, and haven’t for years, but watched some Wilson’s highlights recently, he’s an entertaining player and his touch and placement on some of those passes is just amazing.
I was not aware of how many of his sack numbers are due to his style. He seems to play with intelligence and throw the ball away when he can. He did that very well in college.
Not all Seahawks fans agree with me about that. But stats do bear it out. Russell holds the ball longer than most NFL QBs.
He knows he can run around and wait for a play to develop.
There is the fact that they run more 5 and 7 step drops than most teams which will lead to some extra sacks.
I think this is why the RB they took might be really helpful if he really is a great pass blocker. Give Russell that extra second a few more times.
I once had a close encounter with an adult cougar in the wild. Something you never forget, but the one rare time I would not want
to go through it again. I was knee deep in a creek (vincent), facing upstream, measuring waterflow. A movement caught my attention as I looked up to
see a cougar walking along the bank, about 15 ft. from me. The wind was downstream, so he had no scent. I had the light cover of partial shade around me. It was as if I didn’t exist to him. I froze to
stone. Adrenaline, awe and fear converge on you all at once. there was nothing between that cougar and myself but low ferns. All sound seems to stop. You could watch the muscles ripple as it walked. In slow motion. I followed the line of it’s back as it went into the salal and vine maple, where it just melted
into the foliage. Ghost like. Vanished. I could not twitch a muscle for the next 20 minutes. Then the questions in your mind: “Is it long enough? Did it catch my scent just below me, and is now just watching? It’s may, could there be a den in that dead log downstream?”
As far as chance meetings in the wild with an animal like that? Has to be one of the rarest possible.
Wonder how many times that has happens and you (or any human) don’t even see the cougar?
And definitely rare. I saw a cougar cross the road in front of me when I was driving by Pilot Butte just after dusk in Bend about 10 years ago. Pretty cool to see but of course I was safe and sound in my car.
Your experience sounds terrifying.
It was a sighting of a lifetime. The recall and details of seeing one that close, 27 yrs. later, are clear and intact, like it
happened yesterday. What a privilege! This was in the smith r. drainage, maybe 20 mi. east of reedsport. One other time
a co-worker & I drove as far as we could up a snow covered road, parked and walked the rest (1/2 mi.) of the way to top
of king mtn. to measure snow. We returned about 2 hrs. later to all kind of cougar tracks around the truck, which were not there
when we departed. Talk about eerie.
That’s insanely scary,awesome and lucky.
In eastern Oregon (Blue Mountains), cougars are not nearly as rare as they used to be. Before the ban on hound hunting, I’d only ever seen one, I was 17 at that time. Since the ban on hound hunting, I’ve probably had about 20 sightings, that number bumped up by a sighting of a mother with 3 kittens, and I likely have seen the same animal more than once as it moves through its territory.
My closest view when not in a vehicle was probably at about 50 yards. I was out walking and practicing with my recurve bow, and had only bird points and rubber blunts for stump shooting. I was walking up an old abandoned road, look up the road, see a big tail sticking out behind a pine tree, and a male cougar steps out, starts marking the tree, then walks out into the road, looks down, sees me, and just silently and quickly melts into the adjacent timbered draw. On the other side, out in open, elk were grazing (it was spring) and if they detected it, they never reacted. I don’t think they knew it was there. i walked back down the road, and admit I looked over my shoulder several times. I’ve spent a lot of time in the outdoors doing field work as a wildlife biologist, often alone, and have never had an encounter with an aggressive cat or bear; they always just ran.
Several years ago, when my kid was about 4, we slept out in the yard in a backpack tent. I couldn’t sleep, so lay awake, listening, hoping to hear a cougar or a wolf. I heard a white-tailed deer making its alarm call, over and over, for about 15-20 minutes. Next day, my kid and I go for the walk, and find the fresh deer carcass about 100 yards from the house. iI pointed it out to her, and explained why we had to leave. A few weeks ago I found another deer carcass in the same area, and then another older one about 200 yards farther. I do take precautions with my kid playing outdoors though, because cougars, like many cats, respond to motion.
A few winters ago, I went skiing out from my house, saw some eagles and crows gathering in a stand of trees, and skied into trees where they were concentrated. There was a dead deer, mostly covered with snow, the snow was red with blood. I got out of there quickly! Its definitely exciting knowing they’re there, but not where they are.
You gonna become a Boise State fan when your county moves to Idaho?
-Very much only mocking a tiny and ridiculous Eastern Oregon movement that got some media a few months back….
-Unless you are part of said movement in which case, I honestly don’t care, good luck.
Nope, staying a Beaver fan, and expecting Smith to have the Beavers in a meaningful bowl game w/in four years. I predicted Rose Bowl in 3-4 years, not sure how COVID19 will affect that schedule. If there is no season this year, I hope Hamilcar and others get another year if they want to come back and play. For backup and depth players that graduate, I expect many would move on, even if they could come back for a final season of play.
Yeah that movement was amusing. I’m sure Idaho wants a bunch of eastern Oregon counties. I laughed when I saw that and wonder how it is supposed to work:
Eastern Oregon Counties: Hey Idaho, we took a vote, we’re going to be part of your state!
Idaho: Umm, no. No you’re not.
Also, most Oregonians don’t seem to support a sales tax, so not sure the Eastern Oregon counties would really like the Idaho sales and use tax.
My favorite was they carved Deschutes County up because apparently they don’t want us Bend liberals going with them. And for a moment I thought, hmm…it would be weird for my hometown (Redmond) to now be in Idaho and my new home (Bend) remains in Oregon. If I ever became famous instant Jeopardy answer to the question ‘What insert [celebrity, athlete, victim of a terrible accident, famous crime lord, etc] lived in two cities that are in different states but always lived in the same state?
Then I also laughed and moved on.
It’s such a silly idea. Let’s take the economically distressed parts of Oregon and add them to one of the poorest and most distressed states in the country. Atleast we all have the samish political views?
Eh not so much, but that’s ok. I’m not into debating politics, so I pretty much steer clear of those posts. Y’all are entitled to your opinions and I’m not going to try to talk you guys of it. We have a wealth of knowledge here from all of our life experience. That’s what I’m here for, well and sports but that seems to be lacking due to this whole virus thing.
Idaho is one of the fastest growing states in the nation. All those Californians deserting blue state paradise.
One of the consequences of the FED not letting housing drop…coastal libtards move and make Red states turn Blue…
Just to add to Angry’s input-my dream of moving to Idaho grows dimmer each year as the affordability factor declines. What happens is you get CA public employee retirees moving in – my wife’s relative has 5 retired individuals from various law enforcement agencies living on their block north of CDA. Things are screwed up when you can retire at 50 and pull down a pension of $150K a year – no way did those guys ever put in that much during their working careers that will amount to millions$. No wonder CALPERS is such a mess. It distorts the local real estate market, too. Looking at real estate prices in Bend, it must be going on there, too. I should have bought 10 acres of sage brush in Prineville when we lived there in the lat ’70’s…
Calpers has to go bust. So do several other big ones.
A July daybreak in the Goat Rocks Wilderness some 6 miles from the road provided a chance for me to observe a cat at about 70yds. She was moving up a small watercourse at the head of a large drainage well above treeline. I could see her back, tail, and occasionally her head as she traveled, unaware, I believe, of my presence.
The intriguing thing for me was the sounds she made. Almost like a raven but at very regular intervals. I counted off those sounds in my mind, something like 18-20 seconds apart, can’t recall for sure. When I contacted a cougar researcher (U of Michigan, I think) who had posted the same sound on the net; she was very interested in the timing, a new factor for her. She said she should have named the sound the “reassurance call”; claimed it was mom letting her youngsters know that she was not abandoning them.
On another backpack to the same area a buddy and I nearly camped on top of a fresh cougar kill. Long story, better told over a pitcher.
I have seen two in my life and both were through rifle scopes at atleast 500 yards (Deschutes and Klamath counties). I have well over 2000 hours of wilderness time in those areas so I’m sure I have been much closer and had no idea.
That’s why I always have my pistol on me when I’m out in the woods. Last year I had an encounter with one while deer hunting. We’d finished hunting and decided to head home. Put my rifle in the back seat and unloaded it (I’ll never do that again until I got the main road). Proceeded to head down the mountain. Came around a corner and a big ol Tom was just standing there on the side of the road. I’m guessing 175-250lbs. I always get a cougar tag. I hit the skids, told my daughter to get out and shoot it( she still had her rifle in the front seat. She just froze and was like umm I’m not getting out there with that. So I bail out the door and grab my rifle and magazine and start to put it in. This whole time he’s just standing there broadside watch us. I finally get the magazine in (yes I had massive anxiety)after fumbling around for what seemed like an eternity. I stepped out, clearing the back door of the truck and started to pull up on it. It’s still just staring at me. Perfect! I thought. Just then another truck comes around the corner and swerved to miss me. Scared the cougar off before I could take the shot. That cougar jumped to the other side of the road in one jump and ran up the bank that was around 15ft. Tall and almost straight up and down like it was nothing. This whole episode might have lasted 1-2 minutes but Jesus everything seemed to happen in super slow motion. Seeing that jump and climb gave me more respect for them as a predator than I had previously had. Mental note: take anti anxiety meds instead of carrots when you go hunting.
Lived rural in California, neighbor lady fed her cats outside, she was surprised one day to find a big cat eating fluffy’s chow, lucky it wasn’t fluffy. We later had a juvenile cat hit on the road frontage of our property so they were definitely around but only saw one once in 20+ years and it was motoring up a hill so fast it looked like a blur with a tail.
We also had rattlers, bear, pigs, turkey, quail, fox and bobcat. Strangely house never lasted long.
Just saw a Twitter post saying that out of the 25 wrs that ran the 20 yd shuttle hodgins had the fastest time at 4.12.
Which is a partial indication of why he’ll be able to separate…then the “catch radius” and the hands!
Kids definitely has hands, number one thing for A WR.
It’s not like he had burrows throwing him the rock, if he made jake a draft pick he can help allen too
Pretty happy about where hodgins And Luton went. Both have a chance to play at some point. I now have two great reasons to root for Buffalo.
yeah, I’ve tended to root for Buffalo (Poyer) and for the Saints and Rams when Cooks was there.
I struggle with Cooks at this point, love the guy but man those concussions…..
https://mobile.twitter.com/BeaverFootball/status/1254179638193958912
What are you drinking today/tonight?
I’ve been maintaining a pretty consistent buzz since lunch time. It’s like football season in Spring. Thank you Covid19, for giving me an excuse to not have to drive on a Saturday.
Took the day off, had a couple ft george while getting some chores done… just poured a vodka tonic but thinking I haven’t had a negroni since forever, that may be next on the liver destruction tour
Ft George has been making amazing IPAs lately. Never had anything bad, or even just average, from them.
“I’ve been maintaining a pretty consistent buzz since lunch time. It’s like football season in Spring. ” – Ha! Thanks for the laugh!
I had a can of Barley Brown Pallet Jack withe dinner, probably be the last one though.
Just made a manhattan with some Four Roses small batch and Jefferson’s Reserve.
Clay Cordasco to the Bengals
Wow, that’s awesome. Had no clue that guy would get a shot. What a story.
Dude had enough game to try and make an NFL team, and he dated Marie Gulich. Cue angry angry
Definitely has no quit in him. His road is long. I would not be surprised if he defies the odds again.
I think I like Kat Tudor better. Kinda over Gulich.
Yeah Kat Tudor is better.
Agree, and she seems more fun.
Gabriella Hanson
Big Jim Wilson always seemed to like Cordasco.
That’s BIG Jim to you!
BTW, BIG Jim looked back with a lot of praise for Luton on the recently linked podcast about the current outlook for FB.
Said, “…excellent season”
So a politician mentioned this morning he believed that we shouldn’t let Chinese students study science at American universities.
Forget the politics of this and rather it is good/bad policy. I honestly do not care where anyone stands politically on said policy.
My question is:
How reliant are American universities on Chinese students studying in America? I genuinely don’t even know but with colleges already in trouble would such a policy even be possible without bankrupting colleges?
Total enrollment in 2018 was about 20 million. Chinese Nationals made up 360k of that so like 1.5% of total enrollment. On a national level not a big deal but I’m sure some schools have higher enrollment than others.
I trust your number but it’s deceiving. Chinese nationals might have contributed 1.5% of enrollment but that amounted to 5.25% of total tuition revenue, minimum. By that I mean if they only attended state schools. But we know they attend private schools, Ivy league, MIT, Chicago, Stanford in great numbers, so it probably was pushing 10% total revenue nationally.
Where did you get that %? I can’t find it. I did find this BBC article that said living expenses tuition of Chinese students can in around 13 bn.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-48542913
I simply multiplied your 1.5% of student population by the non-resident tuition differential 3.5x in-state. your premise is that Chinese nationals student population is no “big deal” but I beg to differ. there’s a significant literature (check the Chronicle of Higher Education for one) about colleges that went “all in” on foreign enrollment to balance their books and now the scheme has gone bust.
My alma mater, Purdue, went all in on this, taking way more out of state and international students. It’s why the President can boast about a tuition freeze for how every many years now.
very reliant. After the great recession, what with all those state government cutbacks in higher education, a lot of the major public research institutions (the ones who populate D1 football) figured out a way to refinance their model. Cut way back on in-state enrollment, and go big on international students and out of state students who pay 3.5x the in-state rate. This, by the way, is why student interesting in collegiate sports waned over the course of the last decade. You know, all those stories about why students aren’t going to sports events like previous generations– Well, turns out if you grow up outside this country big rivalry games vs. (take your pick) UO, UW, don’t quite seem so important.
We agree on something…see I’m not evil.
we probably agree on a lot of things.
I’ll just leave this here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/australia/new-zealand-coronavirus.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Get up this morning with the plan to take my dog on a nice long hike then get some yard work done before I have gravel/river rock delivered next week.
10 minutes into hike, I take a step and my back begins spamming, 30 minutes later I get back to my truck, here’s to wasting a spring Sunday on my floor watching Netflix and most likely drinking way too much (apologize in advance, promise no politics though)
One nice thing about this quarantine is I have more time to do this stuff during the week so hopefully my back improves.
Just started the Waco mini-series from a few years back, reviews if you’ve seen it?
Guessing your back was “spasming”…..
I feel your pain. My back has been threatening to go out for a week now (old injury, lumbar discs) and I am getting so impatient. Really need to take care of yard, but if I try the weed eater I’ll likely be down for a day or two. Beautiful day too, after yard work I should be mountain biking or fishing….
I thought it was just ok. Somewhat accurate. The truth is they got screwed no matter how much of looks they were. Worst accusation u can come st them with is statutory rape. I dont agree with that or a lot of what they did. Screwed none the less but easy to paint as and cover up the mistakes made by Gov’t officials. Imho
Have you tried acupuncture? I’ve had a ton of injures from sports, and it was magic for soft tissue ailments.
New study (likely bad, can’t find the paper)…saying microscopic particulate matter carries corona around via air.
Maybe topic when new thread goes up, positives that have already or will come of this Covid deal. I’m
Talking maybe some different parenting, or changing in health care stuff. Wide variety of things. One for us, can’t go anywhere so potty training our first daughter. Yay…..
Personal positive for me as someone who is not great with money is seeing my savings skyrocket since I can’t spend money.
I hope society wise it will create more empathy in America but beyond that I fear it will just separate us even more than technology already has.
Less environmental damage realizing we can do most work online…I think that shift will be somewhat permanent. Commercial real estate in big trouble.
I hear a lot of people voicing this view that people will keep working from home long term. I would hate that personally and also think it would be bad for society overall (agree it would be good for the environment).
Technology that is meant to connect us does the exact opposite in my opinion. And this would just make it even worse.
I guess us extroverts have had the world for millennia so maybe it is time for introverts to rise up.
A society essentially full of awkward home school kids is not my dream future for my kid.
Pollution reduction, air quality improvement…
Shit I took this time to do just that and find positives. I’m in no way great at most of these but been working on automobiles, dog training/breeding, languages, carpentry gardening, solar installation.
It’s a perfect for everyone to do the thing you’ve always wanted to do. Go get em Beavs!
Hey waitaminnit, all this self improvement and increased capacity for self reliance are NOT going to help the economy!
Do you guys stretch at all? I’m 33 and just had back surgery last year and I would suggest doing so everyday. Avoid my disaster please! If you have firestick it has classes or whatever online. Please protect your back! My problems have altered my life so much and probably could’ve been prevented with stretching and also strengthening. Good luck and take care of yourself. Best to rest and fight a new day.
Not enough or consistently. I need to improve there and do plank consistently.
Yeah but after hurting my back golfing 5 years ago I struggle if I sit too much and I’ve just been forced to sit significantly more since I’ve been working from home. I went from easily getting 10,000 steps a day to struggling to consistently break 5000 steps most days now that I am working from home (you can’t really walk around and teach over the internet like I do in my traditional classroom) which is why I wanted this long hike this morning.
Which subject(s) do you teach?
Planks are good. We use to call them superman’s but essentially working the low back lumbar area is good.
@youngorst That sounds like sciatica early on. That’s what I had to have surgery for. I have never been the same since. I would recommend seeing your doctor and maybe seeing if he could prescribe you physical therapy. Either way I’m not joking. When I pick something up its like an 80 year old.
Yeah, my doctor is in the know. I’ve been managing it pretty well and rarely have issues. This pandemic has just created a poor situation for me.
I went from standing for work all day, then either coaching football/track or officiating basketball for a couple hours most days plus the gym in the morning and walking my dog in the evening to losing most of that. I’ve had a difficult time fully replacing all the moving I typically do.
Yeah I hear ya. Even if you can stretch for ten minutes in the morning it will help you prevent a lot of problems and probably make u feel better.
Depends on the 80 year old…
I’ve seen major flexibility improvement doing yoga. Yoga with Adriene on Youtube has just about everything you need.
Stay safe and watch for these new symptoms, pretty easy to spot:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEAXOCmgE74
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/two-california-emergency-room-covid-doctors-may-start-a-revolution-with-calm-science-data-based-press-conference-questioning-of-extreme-measures
Lifesite News, huh? Not since Lifesite News’ exposé on how the Girl Scouts were donating all their cookie sale proceeds to Planned Parenthood have I seen such a shit article. (They weren’t, by the way.)
Lifesite News is massively right-leaning, they don’t fact check much of anything and it’s mostly religious propaganda.
Appreciate the attempt though.
EDIT
You had him at “right leaning”
Real news is always “right leaning” don’t you know?
For sure. I fully support the trickle down knowledge provided by these alleged news sites.
It’s pretty amazing we’re being chastised for “feels not reals” and “look at the facts” when they post this completely debunked trash as defense of an indefensible position.
America, fuck yeah!
Try watching the actual videos of the Doctors and maybe even listen. I know that’s a hard task for many in this forum.
https://youtu.be/ZV0PFzcI9RE
Not a hard ask…they lose me when they claim “models are all wrong” when they have no idea that is actually true.
None of us know shit because we’ve tested what 1% of Americans?
That isn’t close to enough data to make any determinations.
Testing models requires accurate data inputs, we have no such data.
The video is an hour so you watched like 3 min. So opened minded. Lol
It very interesting when they mention that shelter in place actually causes our immune systems to become weaker and thus more susceptible to other sickness not just COVID. Of course you robots would not know this because groupthink easy.
No, I read the article before and when I got to the 3rd paragraph I decided I wouldn’t waste my time on the video.
‘I have constantly felt, from the beginning of this pandemic, that there are many things that do not add up about the unprecedented and devastating measures that have been put in place to try to stop this novel virus. They were all based on trying to prevent the high numbers of model-estimated deaths that have clearly all proven to be dramatically wrong.’
You want me to watch a video don’t tell me you “feel” the data is wrong.
What is funny is you think i am against re-opening despite me saying multiple times I’d go to a crowded bar or restaurant right now.
Just don’t try to convince me the data is wrong because of ‘feelings’
YoungOrst, it’s all Operation Infektion stuff. Not worth wasting time on. I see these videos and memes all over FB. They’re put out by Russia and/or political groups and are for conspiracy prone people. These channels get 3rd rate, scrub doctors like Dr. Rumack to confirm a thesis they want to promote.
Oh I know, I actually clicked on the link out of hope. As I said, I am all about opening back up. I am more than willing to take the risk personally.
Of course I also recognize that I do not have the right to risk others lives which is what I’d be doing by supporting opening before we are ready.
Until we have enough tests and contact tracing ready we as a society aren’t ready. That simple.
Of course I also recognize that I do not have the right to risk others lives which is what I’d be doing by supporting opening before we are ready.
My attitude exactly. I’d most likely be fine if I got it, I’m healthy. My in-laws, not so much. Other people’s loved ones too. I don’t want to be a vector for anyone’s loss.
I’m ready to open up with masks, gloves, etc as mandatory.
Good compromise.
@angry
I agree gloves, masks and tests coming out the ass plus locking down at risk folks, that could be done. Sucks, but compromises sometimes suck. Unfortunately, the testing is lacking right now.
Gloves and masks should be enough if enforced. I don’t like the notion that everyone has to be tested and show their card…gets way too Scarlett Letter for me.
A lot of people seem to be misinformed on the reason behind the stay at home orders. The stay at home orders are to prevent overwhelming the hospital systems. That’s all. It’s not stopping the virus or preventing deaths. It will spread and at risk folks will die until there is a vaccine. Just like with H1N1. Quit thinking the stay at home order is to protect you. It’s not you they are trying to protect.
” Gloves and masks should be enough if enforced. I don’t like the notion that everyone has to be tested and show their card…gets way too Scarlett Letter for me”
I’m not saying anything shows a card to anybody. Obviously that violates hipaa. I’m saying, everybody gets tested, I think most people do the right thing and stay home if they’re positive. If negative, continue to be safe but get back out there at your own pace. Testing is a requirement. Knowledge is power.
Rev,
I think most of us understand that just fine.
But
Keeping the hospitals from being overwhelmed by this virus does protect us so hospitals can handle other emergencies too.
I do agree some (on both sides of the aisle) have taken that as us waiting for a vaccine but I’d consider that a small minority. I also think despite the H1N1 comparison we will likely see measures like masks in public be a norm for awhile. Required or not.
Not a fan of gloves. I think people get a false sense of security, even more than when wearing a mask. Gloves should just be for people that don’t have access to hand washing or hand sani. Instead I think people put them on, start touching everything and just leave them on acting like they have magic disinfecting powers.
Some people believe the Earth is flat. That don’t necessarily make it so.
What other shape would be it? A sphere? What are you nuts?
Nuts? Good point, could be shaped like a cashew.
It’s back now. But it did disappear for awhile.
Ah, thanks.
After 2 minutes of research you didn’t bother to do, those doctors are from a for profit walk in clinic in Bakersfield. Makes sense that they would argue that people should be coming to their clinic for other health care concerns. Business is down and that second house isn’t gonna pay for itself!
Kern county disagrees though because they want to do what’s right, not simply what’s profitable.
“So, I can confirm that the doctor at Accelerated has spoken with our director. Our director has not concurred with the statements that were made yesterday about the need to re-open at this time,” said Michelle Corson. “What I would like to re-iterate is we take very seriously the governor’s guidance, the guidance from the California Department of Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control and we want to re-iterate now is the time to remain very vigilant and stay at home and practice social distancing.”
“I strongly state that that is our position and we are so grateful our community, we see that you are staying at home.”
None of you seem to be concerned with the spike in domestic violence, child abuse, rape, and suicide that have come with the “shelter in place” orders. Keep feeling good about yourselves. Groupthink is powerful.
As if you aren’t a victim of groupthink.
You literally parrot alt-right talking points and link alt-right opinion pieces.
Your entire position is the definition of mindless groupthink.
Work is Freedom, right?
I’m very concerned about it actually. Those things are awful and we should do more to prevent them. But we shouldn’t prematurely open the country up.
Prematurely open the country up… what do you believe they are trying
to protect by keeping the country at home? Studies are showing way more people have been exposed and are asymptomatic and mortality rates are way lower than what has been reported. The scenes of overwhelmed hospitals in NYC on CNN do not match up with what the rest of the country is seeing.
Yes, certain some areas have hospitals that are overwhelmed and some don’t. You’re suggesting that we let the entire country get overwhelmed by jumping back in like there’s nothing wrong? Let everybody get overwhelmed?
Fuck that.
The death rate is 1% with social distancing, more like 3% without when hospitals get overwhelmed. Are you friends with 100 people? I know I am. Name the 3 you’re fine with dying. Say their names out loud.
What do I believe they’re trying to protect? People’s friends and family.
Fucking bunch of ghouls.
You’re math and logic are both way off. True mortality rates are way less than 1% of infected population, not 1% of the entire population. I work in healthcare and sell the machines that keep people alive when ventilators don’t. Flu B is a bigger threat right now than covid. Sorry you don’t like the facts but stick to your sensationalism.
Wait, you sell healthcare equipment? That makes you an expert in actual healthcare? No offense, I’m not taking healthcare advise from Cal Worthington.
What’s been the conservative/Republican groupthink on domestic violence, suicides, rape and child abuse over the years? Not very user friendly, I would guess. Pro-life until born. Then it’s all bets are off…
Yep, every Dr. Rumack comes out of the woodwork.
Attention hunters: you guys think it would be ok to take down a typical Oregon black bear 250-350lbs with a 6.5 creedmore? I normally use a .308 but I got me a new toy and it feels so much better to hold and shoot….I know shot placement is everything in hunting and I’m not worried about that part. Is it enough gun?
Absolutely, I’ve personally seen elk taken humanly with it. Just remember its all about shot placement. What bullet do you plan on shooting?
I’ve been using 143 grain Hornady precision hunter and 140 grain Federal premium ammunition. Both these rounds shoot nearly identical and I’m getting 1-2 inch groups at 400 yrds Wich is really the edge of my comfort zone for distance.This thing is a tack driver!
I’ve shot both of those rounds out of my 6.5. Both shot well but I settled on reloaded berger vlds in 140gr. Clover leafs off a bench at 200. I’ll be trying the berger 156gr elites this summer hopefully, although I’m right on the edge of not being able to stabilize them. We shall see.
What gun are you shooting? I’m shooting a customized Tikka t3x.
Hard to beat that .308. Just looking at reloading tables, it appears you’re giving up 40-50 grains of lead at the same velocity.
Never shot one, but I wonder if maybe the Creedmore is better left to mulies, pronghorn, and coyote.
Hopefully GWH will break his recent silence and give a more informed opinion.
EDIT: Guess BB cleared that up! I’ll bow to his experience.
I met Choc Shelton up on Hart Mountain at the OOTA. This guy was/is an OSU legend; not only did he play in a Rose Bowl, but he was also an ace during WWII, flying the P-51 Mustang over Europe. I don’t think many people know that.
OOTA throws one hell of a bash.
Post Draft –
Who landed in the best spot to make the regular season?
1. Luton. Jacksonville signed no undrafted free agent QBs leaving with 3 on the roster. If they carry 3 QBs, he’ll be on the active roster. At least makes the practice squad.
2. Pierce – If the Bears don’t sign anymore RBs, there’s only four RBs on the roster. Probably makes the practice squad. Might beat out Nall if he can play special teams.
3. Brandel – Good shot for him to make the team as backup if he shows he can play right and left tackle.
4. Hodgins – Basically competing for the last WR spot. If he shows he has special teams values he’ll make it. That’s how the #5 WR makes the team.
5. Togiai – Probably won’t make the practice squad. If he had some special teams value he’d have a chance but I don’t think he does.
6. Cordasco – Has one hell of an agent to even get him a training camp invite.
Outside Luton, all have large uphill battles to make the roster. Pierce, Hodgins and Togiai all have to show they can add value somewhere other than their current positions.
I’d put Hodgins 2nd on that list and leave the rest the same. I feel like that’s a really good fit.
What kind of offense does Jacksonville run? And do have a good RB and skill players to help Jake out?
They are trying to tank hard so he’s got a good shot to play. Expected starter is Gardner Minshew. It’ll be hard for a Jags QB to make it all 16 games alive.
They are trying to move Fournette and tank, they’ve already got rid of a lot of talent. They appear all in on Trevor Lawrence. It is not a bad fit long term Luton could be a career Lawrence back up…. assuming he doesn’t get his spine snapped this season.
Hodgins is the tallest receiver on Buffalo’s roster, and he has at least 3 inches on all the regulars/vets. If he had a better QB, he’d be in a perfect position.
Eagles insiders are saying Togiai has the best shot of any of their undrafted FA’s to make the roster. Competition for the 3rd TE spot is not strong.
Also he signed a $100k signing bonus. Good for him!
If it is true that Togai got 100K there was lots of competition for him and they expect him to make the team. That is a huge bonus for an undrafted guy. As of 2016 teams were only allowed to give out 92K total in bonuses for undrafted guys.
Where’d you see that number?
I haven’t had any time to weigh in on the coronavirus issue as I’m working 65-75 hours a week so that y’all can have fruits and veges to eat in the coming months. Seems like plants, bugs and other pests just don’t give a shit about COVID19. I do pay attention to what’s going on though and have some random thoughts. In Oregon 26 counties have 0 deaths and two more have only one, why shut down the entire state? In Oregon, nobody under 40 has died but over 73% of the deaths are people over 70. Why not quarantine old people? In the other state I’m familiar with, MN, the last 3 days 64 people have died and 61 of them were in nursing care or assisted living.
Most of the things I’ve heard Gov Cuomo say are reasoned but to say “if the lockdown saves just one life…” is ridiculous, if he was serious he would have a mandatory speed limit of 35 MPH in the state of NY.
Very few are looking at the costs of the economic disaster. The UN recently said that it may lead to 100’s of thousands of children dying. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-children-un-idUSKBN21Y2X7
Be skeptical of experts. I’ve worked with a few and they’re very myopic and tend not to see the big picture. Their models aren’t as good as they present them to be, it takes years of data to perfect them. Their first models predicted up to 2 million American deaths. remember these are the same guys who predicted that Ebola would kill 500,000 people in just a few countries in Africa.
It’s very possible that COVID19 is not as fatal as first thought. In Illinois there were about 2500 inmates tested, 88% tested positive and 96% of positives were asymptomatic. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-prisons-testing-in/in-four-u-s-state-prisons-nearly-3300-inmates-test-positive-for-coronavirus-96-without-symptoms-idUSKCN2270RX
Six weeks ago the mantra was flatten the curve and that we’d only have to hunker down for a couple of weeks, maybe a month. Other than NYC it doesn’t appear that any hospitals were overrun and we now have plenty of ventilators and ICU beds and it’s time to swing the pendulum back and see what happens. If cases spike and more die then we go back to our basements.
Stay healthy everybody. My hope is that in the fall students are back on campus and we can get back to arguing about the play calling and whether Gebbia is the right guy.
Great information. I guess we can’t have our Cake and eat it too.
Time to get back to work AND keep pandemic protocol in place (wear the PPE, distance, and wash hands regularly). The problem is with people spreading this thing all over because they let their guard down. We still don’t know about the medium and long term effects of this thing (testicles, lung damage, blood diseases and issues like clotting, strokes) — best to play it safe while we work.
Agreed, the experts are all over the place with their predictions, and obviously can’t get this thing under control.
Take home message: “If you’re home schooling you may start drinking at 10 am”
https://youtu.be/wVs5AyjzwRM
Pretty informing and compelling defense of the World Health Organization. Don’t worry, you can read it and still feel comfortable blaming China for everything.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/how-trumps-coronavirus-blame-for-who-and-china-falls-flat.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw
The WHOs not going to run out of money any time soon, their budget is set til 2021. And this looks like the UN security problem all over again. The US pays for a majority of it, while other members decide they don’t want to pay their fair share.
Here’s other thing to think about.
https://andrewharmer.org/2018/06/07/whos-funding-who/
You get what you pay for. The US and US businesses have long used global organizations as an extension of their influence.
I’m sympathetic to the “they aren’t paying their fair share” argument, but at the end of the day, past US administrations have been totally fine with that for a reason (and it’s not naivete).
Yeah, I’ve never understood why some Americans don’t understand that the US pays more because it wants more influence.
World politics work like American politics, you can buy access.
My main take away from this article is that no matter who you want to blame, there really isn’t a reasonable reason to be blaming the World Health Organization.
Ever consider that many Americans DO understand the US pays more because it wants more influence; they simply doubt we are getting more influence?
Ever consider that threatening to withhold funding may be the start of negotiations to “get what we pay for”?
Like it or not, and valid or not, a large part of Trump’s appeal is the USA First attitude he projects.
I understand why Americans think it, they are just wrong and these views are only helping China to build a massive web of influence all over the world and their influence is getting especially strong in Africa.
China is kicking our ass in the global pursuit for rare Earth minerals.
well put, OOB.
and as if on cue, in today’s journal there’s a big story of the push to keep open the country’s biggest rare earth mine near the NV/CA border.
In regards to rare earth minerals, you are absolutely right. Hopefully thats changing as Australia just blocked 2 Chinese companies from investing in a couple of Australian firms mining rare earth material in western Australia. Was surprised to read that almost 1000 lbs of rare earth material goes into 1new f-35 fighter. Definitely want to keep those supply lines open if your newest and supposedly best jet needs that much per unit.
I’ve done some work in REE’s. There are two problems with the market for the US: we have no processing capability and prices throughout the value chain are too low to justify extraction from the sources that we have available (largely due to China’s outsized influence in the global supply chain).
In 2019, the US was the second largest producer in the world of REE ore (China was first). We exported 100% of what we produced from Mountain Pass because we don’t have the processing capability here. The DOD has been (very slowly) working to rectify this by funding feasibility studies (and eventually construction) of a facility to do this. Lynas, an Australian REE producer, just won the grant for the feasibility study for a facility in Texas.
We have several decades of reserves in the US, and even more in Canada. Once the supply chain is established in the US, there’s no reason we can’t mandate domestic material be used for production of strategic end products and cut all ties with the Chinese producers. To their credit, the Trump administration is the first to actually do anything about this (though it’s taking forever).
@BinDE
Be careful suggesting credit to the Trump administration for anything
Could cause the mimosa consumption in Bend to skyrocket…….not a good thing!
Actually no.
You see, it is you guys that can’t criticize Trump for anything.
I give him credit for all kinds of things I agree with.
Short list (Because it is short) but Space Force is a needed program and we will see about the new NAFTA agreement.
I disagree Trump is the first to do anything about this though. TPP addressed this stuff too. We just decided we hated that no matter what because multi-national trade agreements are bad now.
You see, what you guys get wrong about me is that I don’t hate Trump as President for his policy beliefs, for being a crass asshole, for being a known conman, or even for being a rapist.
I hate Trump as President because he is an authoritarian who has no interest in bringing Americans together, is incompetent at the job, hires incompetent people/leaves thousands of jobs unfilled, and continues to commit crimes while in office.
But sure, it is simply because he is a Republican. Keep telling yourself that.
@ beavde – thanks for that info. Good to know we are at least moving to rectify it. I imagine there is much red tape , including the environmental angle.
I was going to ignore it but i cant help it and im probably going to regret it but Trumps a rapist? How did i miss that?
Seriously?
It has its own wikipedia page he has been accused and settled so many such claims.
Hell, he is fighting an accusers lawsuit right now as POTUS.
But you won’t believe it anyway so I’m gonna drop the link to the wikipedia page and let you decide how to discount 5 claims that woman took to court including one of his wives for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Ivana_Trump_(1989)
Decide for yourself how you will convince yourself to still believe Trump is infallible.
Yes he’s a rapist: Narcissistic Personality Disorder combined with his history of allegations where the offenses align in a theme, combined with his own words of admittance.
@young os- really have not heard all what i read beyond the ex-wife one and the beauty contestant ones. Him and bill clinton could swap stories over a drink. Probably have.
youngorst- how did the TPP address American REE security aside from setting up trade rules that would likely be ignored during a conflict anyway?
TJ Rodgers, former CEO of Cypress Semiconductor, has an interesting study of correlations in today’s journal. The math is little dense for a liberal arts guy like myself but I can understand his summary:
“Sweden’s death rate without a shutdown and massive unemployment is lower than seven of the hardest hit U. S. states–Massachusetts, R. I., Louisiana, CT, Michigan, NJ, NY.”
“Despite stories about high death rates, Sweden’s is in the middle of the pack in Europe, comparable to France, better than Italy, Spain and the UK; and worse than Finland, Denmark and Norway.”
“We should cheer for Sweden to succeed, not ghoulishly bash them. They may prove that many aspects of the US shutdown were mistakes–ineffective but economically devastating.”
I’d describe Sweden as having a partial shutdown.
In Beaver related news, the deadline to declare for the NBA draft was last night and it appears like Thompson is staying for his senior year. Still have 2 many players on scholarship.
Not so fast my friend.
https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/04/oregon-state-junior-ethan-thompson-puts-his-name-into-the-2020-nba-draft-pool-as-an-early-entrant.html
I actually think the team would be better off if he left early. He’ll will the Beavs to three or four extra wins, but I can see teams just doubling him for the full 40 and letting the other players do what they can. It’s going to be get the ball to Ethan who brings it up the court, dribble a bit, pass to someone, who passes back, dribble some more then put up a shot as the clock winds down.
Hodgins considered one of the “steals if the draft”:
“ Bills WR Isaiah Hodgins (Oregon State) — sixth round, No. 207 overall
Pigeonholed by some as merely a possession receiver, Hodgins is now in the right setting to showcase his value. The Bills have made a serious push to give Josh Allen enhanced pass-catching options, trading their first-round pick to have Stefon Diggs join John Brown and Cole Beasley. All three receivers, however, are 6-0 or shorter and weigh under 200 pounds. The 6-4, 210-pound Hodgins is a master of securing contested catches, reeling in all 12 of his red zone targets last year for nine touchdowns, according to Pro Football Focus. He should be an immediate asset for Allen, who completed just 48% of his passes inside the 20-yard line in 2019, and can also extend his influence to intermediate routes.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2020/04/26/nfl-draft-biggest-steals-picks-2020-cowboys-jets-browns/3029143001/
I don’t think Allen can place the ball accurately enough to use Hodgins to his full advantage, but hopefully he’ll improve there.
Also, youngorstate, JK Hill considered a steal for chargers….
Well, Hodgins has a great “catch radius” so Allen just has to put it somewhere close and he’ll go get it.
Well said. I foresee Allen funding several steak dinners for Hodgins.
Anyone know how much booze it takes to ruin your liver?
Asking the important questions.
Seriously though if you’re concerned go get your blood test done. If your AST/ALT numbers are high they can indicate liver damage.
People that regularly show up at the hospital are typically a fifth plus a day type drinkers. You got to really push it to cause liver failure. That said much like the Rona will take out the odd healthy person here and there sometimes on rare occasions lighter drinkers get hit with it. Oh yeah and don’t regularly take Tylenol or Advil either.
I usually drink 1x per week, 2 drinks per sitting. Only on Friday or Saturday. But lately with this virus been drinking 2x or 3x a week, sometimes early or mid week. Still just two cocktails per sitting. I just feel shitty lately. So this past week I cut it back down to 2 drinks in the past ten days. But I notice I’m craving drinks more. Has me a bit concerned just that I want one more often. My last physical was perfect, and I’m ideal weight. Though I lost 10lbs over the last year to hit that ideal weight (was slightly over), and I’ve gained back 3lbs of that, I think due to drinking more. So it’s shitty all around. Need to get the discipline back. It’s so easy to say “ah fuck it” and drink/feel good for a few hours to combat the boredom/depression of the situation.
Your nowhere close.
That’s good, but this craving a drink thing is concerning. I’m reading it’s very common in America right now, but still, ugh. Need to work on this and get my Gary Andersen discipline back. Oh wait…with discipline like that I’ll have a red nose and ten bastard children pretty soon.
Only two drinks?
What’s making me feel worse is not being able to go to the gym to lift combined with working from home two or three days a week where I’m not riding my bike back and forth from work. My shoulders look like they did when I was 14.
1 beer a day. However, it’s from Boneyard and 32 ounces. The can is so big I can’t tell if I have tiny hands, or I’m a quart low on oil.
Great deal on those – 3 for $13. I’m getting to-go from there often, for the greater good.
Yep it’s a great time to be a closet drinker in Bend. Deals abound!
In my experience, the non-drinkers are the oddity in Bend.
My dad was the exception to the rule for liver destruction. Him and mom got married right out of high school. Never did the party scene and drank maybe once a year, At age 50 he was diagnosed with scirosis of the liver. It took 16 years after the diagnosis for it to take him. The last 4 years were just awful:a stroke,and kidneys started to fail. So I don’t drink at all… Everyone should go tell their mom and pops that they love them and give em a big ol hug
Some input from a psychological angle. (sadly, not a sports psychologist. BTW where the heck is MonkeyLuven??)
“Two Errors Our Minds Make When Trying to Grasp the Pandemic”
Concludes: “Disappointment and uncertainty are inevitable, but we don’t have to turn them into suffering. Ruminating over what might have been and what might happen will reliably deliver unhappiness. If you practice eliminating these mental errors during the pandemic, you’ll be happier today, and better equipped to deal with the hard parts of ordinary life, whenever it resumes.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2020/04/how-stay-calm-during-pandemic/610390/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
I received a letter from the IRS today, letting me know in English and Spanish that I received my direct deposit stimulus payment recently. Fortunately the USPS postage was affordable, otherwise I could have been paying 4 times as much out of my Fed taxes to send this paper letter to myself.
It was signed my someone at the IRS, but I couldn’t read the signature. Otherwise I would have written them back to tell them to hold off on future letters and use that money for somebody else who needs it.
Anybody here still waiting for their checks?
Haven’t had a sniff if the funny money, inflations gonna hit before I see it! Tool still says status unavailable.
There’s usually a 1 year lag between massive printing and inflation…
I haven’t gotten anything yet, nor has the lady.
I know my mom just got hers, I got mine day 2 so not sure what determines when you get paid out. Some friends have gotten them, many haven’t.
I know how and when you filed taxes plays a role but it also seems completely random.
Angry, did you get a refund on the last taxes you filed? If you got a refund you don’t need to do anything, but if you paid you need to get your direct deposit info filed with the IRS. I’m not sure why its that way, but it is. Go here, https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/economic-impact-payments
Yup, I had to pay additional taxes last year. I finally logged on to the IRS site yesterday to give them my deposit information.
IRS site is finally working and tells me my deposit is on the way. Looks like a few new golf clubs are headed my way too so I’ll do my part to get the economy going. A new putter and a new Callaway Mavrik 3-wood at a minimum and maybe a new golf bag too.
Have seen people claiming they’ve gotten the letter saying they received the direct deposit, but they never received the direct deposit yet.
I’m got mine right away. Was that last Monday or Tuesday? I can’t keep track. Several at work got theirs, too.
It was before that. Two weeks ago I got it.
Yep, still waiting…
Kids got theirs, wife and I are still waiting. But we don’t ever receiove a refund so we expect our wait to be, basically, forever.
Getting mine Wednesday, feeling stimulated already
Clean it up buddy, its not that kind of site….
Oh shit! It’s not that kind of angry beav? I’ll show myself to the door. Wait does the door even want to see me?
Nope. Like being in the military…hurry up and wait.
I went the “I got mine” government website, but it said I was disqualified for voting in every election since eligible, but for the wrong candidates.
The Athletic today:
Justin Herbert has a big arm, is athletic, very intelligent and one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. I like him, but I just don’t have a strong feeling he’s going to be a franchise quarterback. We did a lot of his games at Oregon and kind of came away underwhelmed with his performances. He didn’t make as many plays as you’d expect. There definitely were flashes, but I was leery, especially for a top 6 pick
He has the size and athletic ability but I don’t see a franchise qb either. I think if he has the chance to sit a year or two he could possibly be groomed into one. I can’t see him coming in and having immediate success. A lot of really good qbs have had underwhelming rookie campaigns tho. We should know in a couple of years.
I think his upside is Goff, the kind of guy you could theoretically win a SB with but not if you are paying them max money
Saw one site give Chargers a “C” for a draft grade, based on skepticism that Herbert is a franchise qb. I hope he’s successful, seemed like a humble, local kid.
I haven’t checked OLive, guessing there’s some comparison to Dan Fouts/Chargers impact, probably from Canzano…
I will wait to see. A journalist from the Athletic who has never played football at any level making predictions just doesn’t instill confidence in me. Justin will be fine. He will sit for a while which is awesome to learn and grow, then will play when the time is right. He has around 16 million reasons to be patient. What could be better than 16 million and no CTE.
Hard to by time in the NFL, it’s not like a kid waiting to be a senior to start… But hope the best for him.
That’s true. Age is the enemy eventually. Mannion is getting older and older and still hasn’t played. I don’t see Herbert sitting more than a season. The coach said they didn’t waste the #6 pick to groom a backup. He will eventually be the guy.
What’s the status of your State?
We opened back up today in some segments. Retail opens May 1.
Lots of stuff in Oregon never really closed but it appears Brown is gonna let counties propose plans instead of declaring a statewide approach so most of Eastern Oregon will probably be back up and running soon.
That said, I know of some people that are getting tested in Bend right now so I am guessing we will remain on lockdown till most of the state opens which is anyone’s guess.
Maui is pretty much shutdown for another month. Visitors are quarantined. It’s been kind of nice without tourists tho. No traffic, no one on hikes. My landlord’s family owns the land at honolua bay so we went down and camped there which was awesome. If you’re not familiar with it it’s a beautiful preserved bay but is usually packed full of tourists. I didn’t realize it but Maui has the most rental cars of any island at 20,000. Its crazy to see just fields of 1,000s of rentals parked. I honestly try to just stay home and away from everything so I don’t see too much.
So jealous. I love Honolua bay. My wife and I went snorkeling there on our anniversary. It was amazing, but so many people there. It must be like paradise without all the tourists. You’re living the dream, man.
I love Maui, honeymooned there in 2008. Went up on the volcano to try and get a picture of the Ne-Ne geese. Ran into a national park ranger gal and asked if she could point me to the right area where we could find them. They refused to tell me because they are endangered. But found out she was a Beav graduate right around the same time I was there.
I was planning on going back late summer or early fall this year but that’s on hold cuz the ‘rona.
So the Navy confirms UFOs today and no one noticed. Fucking 2020 is weird.
Hadn’t heard that. They going open up and give us some good info?
There has been a supposedly leaked video making the rounds for quite a while that was supposedly taken from an f18 headsup display tracking a UFO. UFO does not mean aliens are landing, just that they don’t know what they were looking at.
Whatever it was had no wings and looked like an elongated egg or a flying Tylenol pill. I saw the footage shortly after it hit the internet, its…….something. it makes hard turns, speeds up and slows down like nothing in aviation that we’ve ever seen. The pilots also claim the craft surfaced out of the water.
The navy just basically acknowledged the video as real. And that they were not sure of the crafts origin.
It could be aliens or it could be the skunk works are on the next level. Personally I think its the latter. If those dudes could make an A-12/SR-71 with slide rules they could possibly make something like this…..I hope.
If you’ve ever heard or read about Project Blue Beam and the potential to simulate an alien invasion, this is the technology that could potentially make that happen. With the latest disclosure concerning UFOs, is it possible the stage is being set for an “invasion.” I don’t know and it does sound crazy, but nothing is beyond the realm of possibility except maybe the Beavers winning a national football title. LOL. Anyway, Project Blue Beam is amazing technology that could really challenge our senses into believing that we’re seeing things that are very real but are just an illusion…..almost the same type of illusion Duck fans experience every year before basketball and football season begin…you know where they’ve penciled the team in as national champions. Again, another LOL scenario for Duck fans but maybe they can get a hold of the Project Blue Beam technology and beat an alien team.
If any fan has a tin foil pointy hat, it would be swammi. Nobody ever penciled the Ducks in as NC before the season starts swammi. Nick dipshit Daschel did have the beavs winning the conference two years ago in basketball and then of course they got pummeled by Colorado. Poor Nick. Always an optimist and fluff writer. Swammi was calling Luton being better than Herbert. Lmao. Only 13 million separating them and their talent
That’s terrible logic, Fanno. Jamarcus Russell got 32mil guaranteed. Is he nearly 3x better than Herbert? Might be the worst 1st round QB in NFL history. Basing talent off salary is one of the dumbest arguments you can make. That said, Herbert is 2x the prospect that Luton is.
Let’s go with the 5 rounds of picks that is separating them then. Either way. Luton can’t carry Herberts lunch pail.
Angry, you’re still fairly new to the Fanny’s MO but let’s just say that logic isn’t in his wheelhouse. He’s more of a shoot from the hip, anything goes kind of troll. In fact, when his fingers take a crap on the keyboard, which they usually do on social media, it’s no wonder he’s hoarding toilet paper. That said, you’ll be glad to know that we’ve watched him on TV light up the Beavers in men’s basketball…..one of his many escapades that he share with all of those on HackLive.
Some of those videos (that one in particular) are pretty old. I guess the Pentagon decided there was no reason to keep videos like this classified if they don’t contain anything that will give away military secrets. Honestly, I’m surprised there aren’t a lot more. I think there is a lot of technology in our own world that we don’t know about. There are countries with a lot of money and smart people who like to keep secrets from the rest of the world. I mean look at some of the stuff we know about. Elon Musk created rockets that land themselves. He put trains of satellites into orbit (one of which was visible over Portland again tonight). Drones (quadcopters) can hover, follow an object, turn in any direction instantaneously. Humans can fly eith suits just like Ironman. Seriously, the lines between fiction an reality become more blurred every day. Sorry for the ramblings, working on Old Fashioned #3. @Angry, I’m with you. Extraordinary times…
Is it possible it is a glitch in the object recognition software? Seems hard to believe it is a human made craft, seems like it basically defies the laws of physics as we presently understand them.
The pilots physically saw the objects, they said it matched what the headsup display was tracking.
Have they invaded yet? If not, meh….
Interesting timing. With no sports they have to distract the masses…
I thought thats what Trumpbux was for?
No that’s to try to win an election/make people like him
I for one welcome our alien overlords, humans ain’t exactly done a great job managing this blue ball we call Earth on the other hand…..
It is 2020 and at this point anything is possible, they could be the lizard people from within the Earth’s core and they are about to reveal that the Qanon movement has been right and release all the children the “elites” have been keeping in underground bunkers.
Honestly, even that would barely make 2020 any crazier.
They’ve been here for a long time. Go down the rabbit hole..
Not now aliens. Maybe 2021?
Are they immune to Covid-19?
Who do you think really started the pandemic? The lizard people thought they could wipe millions of us out and finally take the surface world back for themselves but we are too smart for that and went into hiding. Now they fake a Pentagon account to get us out of our houses looking in the skies with our friends again.
Diabolical plan really.
You’re close, but it was actually the crab people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykWPyaqbebo
Sorry, I didn’t embed properly. Forgive me, Angry Beavs, for I have sinned.
That video has been out for over a year. That thing’s ability to move is pretty terrifying.
It makes you wonder what the reason is for admitting it’s real.
Kyle Nobach announces he is headed to Bend to coach the Elks.
A forty-five minute podcast hosted by Josh Worden (one of wannabeav’s favorites and a guy with a great radio voice) breaks the news and explores what Kyle has been up to.
Some good stuff on Casey (Darth Vader?) and his intensity, will make you wonder about the future of Beavs Baseball w/o him.
https://wordenjosh.podbean.com/e/kyle-nobach-baseball-2015-2018/
Crazy how deceptive highlight videos can be. Seeing bills fans on Twitter talking about how amazing Luton is and that he should have been a first rounder. At the same time Hodgins highlight videos are pretty accurate, guy made catching look like walking last year.
Are they complaining about Hodgins?
The worst I’ve seen is, “I worry the QB just makes him look good”. Gave me a good chortle. Mostly they are excited and amazed they got him in the 6th.
Yeah they have it completely backwards. Jeez. Guess it depends what film they see.
Yeah the one the bills put out was short throws with Hodgins breaking some tackles for good gains. Jake looked like a pro throwing tight well timed and placed balls. The highlight video OSU put together was Hodgins catching anything within 10 ft of him with defenders all over and more ham sandwich style spiral…alll while dragging two feet.
The reality is the Beavs have/had some really good WRs and they made Luton look good. Luton gets credit for getting it near them…within 5 yards. Lol. That’s about it. I really think he will be a disaster as a pro. The only time I’ve said that and been wrong has been Hekker, and maybe Remmers (though, he is pretty bad, yet he keeps on going).
Remmers is a replacement level player. He does an adequate job of RT but gets beat badly by above average edge rushers of which there seem to be more of these days. Be interesting to see if KC moves him inside, with how tall DTs are getting these days having decent length on the inside could turn into an asset.
Shit we were all wrong on Hekker.
It was cemented for me when he had that negative yard punt in the Las Vegas bowl.
I was pretty bullish on Hekker. It was clear the upside was always there with passing ability a added bonus. Ryan Allen was more consistent though. I still think a fair bit of the Vegas bowl blame should fall in coaching. The wind was forecasted, they should have had him more prepared.
It seems like different positions are better for analyzing highlight films. QBs are one that really shouldn’t be given a lot of weight too. Good QBs know when to throw the ball away, hit the open guy deep even if there is an open guy underneath.
It’ll be interesting to see how Luton does. He choked against the tougher teams the Beavers played for sure but even lowly Jacksonville will never face the talent gap between the OSU Oline and the Utah Dline.
My biggest beef with Jake was that he fell apart after he got hit. Understandable for his history but it hurt us bad in some games. Maybe he can grow past that cause he does have the physical tools and has moments of brilliant qb play.
The talent gap is a top tier point Ean. It’s always interesting watching top QBs from great college teams get eaten alive in the NFL when they can’t hold on to the ball for 5+ seconds every down. Luton may very well be better prepared for NFL rush.
I saw some pre-draft write ups that said Luton had good mobility…lol. Makes you wonder how much goes into these analysis. My biggest beef with Luton is he was awful at the deep ball, and that’s what he was recruited for, and he’d give up on players. Another funny analysis I saw was he’d keep his eyes downfield under pressure. LOL. He also wasn’t as accurate as the stats suggest. He’d throw it in a 5 yard radius of a guy like Hodgins who then made a great catch or adjustment.
DJ Clark has the abilities to go get jump balls, and breakaway speed for that matter.
Except he had one of the best completion percentages 15 yds and above.
Stats misleading yet again.
Hodgins, Flemings, et al made some incredible catches for him, as mentioned.
Regarding QB accuracy, PFF actually graded it. Luton actually pretty (really) accurate to Hodgins.
But #narrative.
https://twitter.com/grahambarfield/status/1233108333722103809?s=21
On that note, Mannion doesn’t come close to 10k yards without Wheaton and Cooks. Great receivers that battled for poorly thrown balls and won more than lost. Most of his yards were against non-con opponents too
Mannion wasn’t great, either.
Best QB in our modern era was Moore.
Yeah, I think guys get the yips at QB. Eli Manning used to be able to deliver under pressure. Now he assumes the fetal position at the first sign of a pass rush. Maybe he figures it is not worth risking life and limb on a losing team anymore but I suspect it is more mental than that. Weird too how guys like Brees and Brady have a real good feel for the edge rush but struggle more with the interior pressure, maybe that comes down to no team being able to prepare for an Aaron Donald.
Poor Eli. Guy has been top 3 most sacked , hurried and knocked down for like 3 years? I’d retire too if I was getting crushed by Fiats going 30 mph 10 times a weekend.
Yeah if they watch highlights and see 28:3 TD:INT, they’re likely to react ver positively.
Watch second half at Hawaii (disappeared) watch v UW, Utah (folded)….NFL lineman and blitzing LBs will put him off his game.
That’s why they are Bills fans. Delusional as hell. If they think Luton should be a 1st rounder says it all
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2020/04/28/alex-smith-leg-injury-photo-espn-e60?utm_campaign=sportsillustrated&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_facebook_si&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2Cb_TXv-fBiNRm7ro1kMCZ8sq85nU26-z0AQDSsPFZTsPhDAvOuVQZ2NM
Crazy
Well breakfast was good coming up too so that’s good news. Glad he pulled through
Yeah people die from stuff like that fairly often.
“alex-smith-leg-injury-photo”. That’s enough for me to know I won’t be clicking on that link.
The link is safe. Just don’t click the link they profusely warn you not to click. Don’t be me haha
Angry, looks like your state has joined the left coast re-opening pact.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/coronavirus-in-oregon-april-28-two-more-states-pledge-to-coordinate-reopenings-with-oregon.html
Welcome
that suicide pact is a cult!
Just following the White House regulations.
So now Democrats are wrong when they do what Trump suggests?
You are confusing.
“The Oregon Health Authority has been knowingly sharing coronavirus statistics with state lawmakers that include test results that do not match the agency’s daily tallies to the public..”
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/inconsistencies-emerge-in-states-coronavirus-test-data-to-lawmakers.html
Yes I know breaking the rules linking to “that” news source…this is a very interesting article. How things are reported, and when, can lead to vary different conclusion, presumptions, and ultimately policy decisions.
Did you guys hear the latest Covid projections? Just kidding who cares.
If the world is shut down for a year, which event/activity would you miss the most? I think some that I would miss, I could get creative and still make them happen (camping). Probably miss church the most. Virtual isn’t the same.
Baseball. And live music.
Church, Daughters High School sports, grabbing a beer/food with buddies
As of right now we can still go to the beach and surf and fish. If that went away I would be bummed. I just do everything solo for the most part now. I’m able to do a lot more and learn how to do a lot more on my own. Now I’m just striving to increase my independence.
Happy hour…. Miss cheap bites and a pint before dinner with family. My one time to unwind after work in solitude. Lol
Golf… it’s my spiritual and social life rolled into one. Love getting outdoors, playing for a few bucks and the camaraderie after a round over a beer and a cigar.
Where do you live? I see people golfing all over in Oregon. Never got shut down here
Arizona and golf courses are still open here too. I took his question to mean if everything was literally shut down for a year. If not golf, then college football and college baseball.
Those are my selfish responses but what I’d really miss is both my sons not getting to play sports or even see their friends at school.
Hands down live music. Small random shows I’d go to around town on up to the canceled Pearl Jam show in Copenhagen I was going to in late June. No shows at Les Schwab amphitheater this summer will suck donkey balls.
I know Fox is fake news, but…at least they’re bright enough to realize China is fake data.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-could-have-50-times-more-coronavirus-cases-than-claimed-trump-administration-official-says
Their news division does fine, their polling division is really good. Their editorial section is fake though.
Photos, for you Kat Tudor fans:
I liked her intensity, and she is cute; still prefer Gabby.
https://oregonstatewomensbasketball.exposure.co/kat-tudor
Mandy was the best.
The rest are just so so and something to look at during the game.
You got that right!
One post-season game I was waiting to get in at a side/back door to Gill and she walked by. Very pleasant personality (hey, it’s all about personality, right?).
Never forget her carrying those orange high heel shoes to wear only after she got inside.
2015 Nike Interstate Shootout at Lake Oswego HS. Talking with Mandy and Scott in the bleachers with Graves and Campbell in front of us. We were talking about Sabrina (that’s who everyone was there to watch) and I couldn’t focus because Mandy smelled so good. Dawn Staley walked in and looked like a bridge troll compared to her. It wasn’t even close. Pun intended
Creepy!
Creepy because a man thinks a woman smells good? The fact you think that is creepy is telling. Maybe you should take some advice and really social distance yourself from your sheep and goats. Now that’s creepy. Goat fucker
It is when you’re way older sitting behind college chicks creeping and smelling on them. Gross now you’re bringing up goats and sheep? First it was lil boy’s weiners. You’ve outdone yourself once again. Way to keep it classy 20 year hs ball coach.
Way older? That’s funny, I never gave my age. I wasn’t sitting behind any college chicks. Mandy was a coach at osu. Are you always this confused and ignorant? And I was sitting next to her. Read better moron. You brought up little boy weiners. You seem to be obsessed with them. I have no doubt you are registered in one or multiple states. Creeper that sits across from elementary schools no doubt. I’m sure you applaud what Heimlich did too.
Project much? Older you would have to be to coach hs ball 20 years numbers. Next to her is Symantec’s. You can’t even argue coherently. And we all were there when you brought up little boy wiener. It’s the internet you can’t pretend like it didn’t happen. Im saying things that you have brought up you’re saying things that are fantasies in your head. Keep on molding the children of the future. I hope you aren’t a teacher as well.
Lol. You have no comeback. That figures. There you go mentioning little boys again. You sound like you have a real sickness. Do you know what they do to your type in prison? Better see your PO every month. “Older you would have to be to coach’s ball 20 years numbers”. Is that English? Do you want to try again? Dipshit
“Coach’s ball” that’s not English dipshit. You can’t even get a quote to argue about right. I’m in your head and it’s super roomie other than all of the others that beat me here. Too easy!
You sound so depressed. Just find a rope man. Lol
Is rent due today?
Yeah that reminds me…. I haven’t received your payment. You must be non-essential. But we knew that before the pandemic didn’t we?
pcp
Why the name change?
A sure sign that the lock-down is more about politics and less about health care: when hospitals all over the country are begging the governors to lift the bans on elective surgeries.
Those aren’t the same thing. Hospitals have their covid prevention and containment systems up and ready now so other services can be done. Many elective surgeries are a huge deal for quality of life. For instance I know 22 people who are in agony waiting for joint replacements that were put on indefinite hold. Doctors also won’t give them strong pain killers long term so they are just screwed. Elective surgery is also a large part of hospitals income so they want them to get going again now that they think their hospital is safe and able to handle the infection cases.
BBC/radio4 interviewed the owner of a couple of old people’s homes in which Covid-19 had killed a high-percentage of occupants. She hoped she was going to be able to drum up replacements.
I just know this: my local hospital has nine floors. There are six Covid patients on one floor. The maternity floor is open. The rest of the hospital is empty. There’s something wrong with that picture
And as Newton once said, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction: my local state legislator told me today that the local EMT’s are just inundated doing HOUSE CALLS because the population is so freaked out no one will go visit a doctor or the emergency room.
Is there air flow between floors? Elevato shafts? Stairways? Isolating an area within a building is not easy. Specially since most ICU/surgery rooms use positive air pressure to keep vectors out of the area. That’s not so good with isolating covid.
It’s not as simple as yelling open up, it has to be well thought out and executed well or people will die. It’s more an engineering and design challenge than a policy issue.
I did see a cool rig a guy came up with that could filter the air in an icu and switch the pressure to negative but I’m not sure how much that idea is being instituted.
of course, it’s a modern hospital. don’t engage in diversion, Nuke. This situation is screwed up. stop denying it.
It’s not diversion. Those are real problems that hospitals are trying to solve. You know real things not political concerns. I never said it wasn’t a problem. I said your correlation that politics is the reason hospitals are restricted does not follow the reality of problems hospitals are facing.
Sure though, just open up all the hospitals before they are confident they can isolate where the covid patients are. A bunch of already compromised people getting exposed to covid sounds like a great idea.
Seriously put the liberal arts qb hat away and let people who know their field solve problems and advise what to do.
This seems like more a case of poor coordination between public and private sectors.
Just out of curiosity, have you read the official guidelines from the Trump administration?
Because Trump own administration says stuff should still be closed.
So if it’s all “politics” wouldn’t Trump (whose standards are what are being followed) be the one making it political?
Never mind, never his fault. My bad.
prediction: the next round of neo-liberal corporate media hypocrisy–after complaining for weeks that the the defense production act wasn’t being invoked sufficiently, the next news cycle will be dominated by complaints of its application to the meat-packing industry.
relatedly, CNBC has a daily parade of executives from banking, finance, entertainment, but no one from the food production or main street retail sectors.
Go for a walk dude. There is better things to think about.
That was good advice, Nuke, and I followed it. I only expect that when you see Youngorst go off the deep end that you will give him the same advice. I’ll be waiting.
I have but he ignores it.
Edit: I’m not reading all comments and ight now either. Busy with kids, business and chores.
that’s good. I check out for a few days at a time to gain distance and perspective.
I don’t get what the defense protection act is going to do here. Sick people have got to stay home until they are better. Slaughter and processing lines need a certain percentage of knowledgeable and competent people to function. The plants need to do what is best for them and their workforce. Most these places are in the Midwest. Most Midwesterners know how to butcher. Instead of wasting animals they should give them away.
Whatever, this is just a common cold, get back to work lazy handout seekers.
Yeah, about that common cold…
“U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Anecdotally, local cardiologist tells me their census is low, people are not going to the ED for cardiac issues out of fear in contracting the covid. He had a patient literally describing a cardiac distress situation but refusing to leave her house for fear of possibly getting or giving the covid.
I’m sure that’s real, but you’ve got to be really careful how you examine that data.
That has nothing to do with the virus itself- that’s a problem related to the virus response (and governmental/media messaging).
I think delaying or cancelling important but non-critical medical procedures was a mistake (outside of hospitals/areas that were overwhelmed or were in imminent risk of becoming overwhelmed). I think the health cost outweighed the health benefit. It also contributed to cases like this where people downplay or ignore a legitimate emergency.
that anecdote is absolutely real. Just above it I posted info from my local state legislator who said the EMT’s are just inundated working as ersatz doctors because no one will go to an office or an emergency room
I completely believe it’s real and happening all over.
My point is just to question what to do with that data. Rolling that into the “coronavirus death toll” is misleading, but I’m sure it’ll happen in a lot of places. These are deaths due to coronavirus response, not due to coronavirus. And thus preventing them requires different action then preventing virus deaths.
NCAA one step closer to allowing college athletes to profit off their own likeness
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/29112263/ncaa-group-oks-conditional-player-endorsements
This is good policy obviously but I am mostly excited because it might mean a new NCAA video game.
Until that was discontinued I had a group of college buddies and every year we would each pick a lousy school and play an online dynasty.
Would be perfect for this quarantine.
My friends and I used to do the same. We would pick a 1* prestige team either all in the same conference or schedule each other in non conference and play each other. It was pretty fun but time consuming. Which like u said would be perfect right now.
What is written below is something I read that I thought some people might be interested in. If you are feeling too happy, read this.
If you fall in line with Chris Martinsen’s thinking, then it will be a long time before the economy gets back on track and all of the business hardships and economic contraction is in the early stages and will get a lot worse and last for a long, long time.
The real issue is how the Pandemic has affected the economy. Let me circle back to my statement that Covid-19 is the “Great Leveler” or as my friend Rick says, “an accelerant for weakness in humans and businesses that needed to be eradicated. The weaknesses were always present.” Step back for a moment and think about WHO is being hurt by the government mandated shutdown? For the most part, It’s any business that is undercapitalized, in debt or without a sound business plan. That describes the vast majority of small mom and pop businesses. Most businesses who do not have debt, have a strong business plan and the ability to adapt will survive. The same is true for individuals. Since 80% of the population cannot survive for 30 days without a paycheck, then they are as vulnerable to a financial calamity as the 85-year-old obese diabetic with a heart condition is to the virus. In both examples, they were vulnerable because they made questionable CHOICES.
We really do live in a concrete jungle. It is as much survival of the fittest in Newport Beach as it is in the Congo. It’s nature’s way – that is if you believe in Charles Darwin. The strong survive and the weak are culled out.
I have empathy for people who fall onto hard times that are not due to bad choices. People get sick. People get laid off. Shit happens. But most people now find themselves in harm’s way because of their own deliberate poor CHOICES. People leased an expensive car that they could not afford so they could impress their friends and neighbors. (My father always paid CASH for his cars, and would drive them for 10 years or more – typical of his generation, one coming out of the Great Depression where debt was avoided at all cost.) Many people bought a house that they could not afford, but as long as they could (barely) make the monthly mortgage payments, they were o.k. The same for their cars. Most people lease their cars, and don’t pay cash for them. Some people even take out 6-year or 8-year leases so they can drive a car above their means and afford the monthly lease payment, and then after 3 or 4 years, they trade the leased car in while still owing money on the existing lease and they roll over the lease balance into a new 6-year lease. The car dealers love that. It’s insanity. It’s a perfect example of a bad choice that is based on perfection, the hope that everything goes right without a hitch. That’s the old normal. And then there is the debt that people enter into so they can send their kids to a college that they can’t afford to go to, and they finance it by taking out a loan to make it happen. People choose to go into debt in order to lead a life style above what they can afford. They would rather go on a vacation or buy a new car and a new large screen TV than to pay up debt or, God forbid, save. Our entire society is based on image and consumption. TV and magazines constantly remind us that we all should strive to be thin, sun tanned, drive an expensive car, wear a Rolex, live in an oversized home in the suburbs and it’s fine to do it on credit…. This life style works – until it doesn’t. All it took was The Great Leveler. As my friend Rick so aptly put it, “the weaknesses were always present.”
What will life in America look like a year or two from now? It is my belief that the rich will be richer (what else is new? They make the rules.) The poor will be poorer AND the middle class will be decimated. A large percentage of the middle class will be booted out of the middle class and end up in the poor, or almost poor category. People will lose their homes and be forced to rent an apartment. People will have their cars reposed. Luxury items and vacations will be eliminated. Conspicuous consumption will be frowned on. We are not going back to the way it used to be. The “way it used to be” is gone forever. It’s all because the DEBT bubble burst. And when a bubble is popped, it doesn’t just go down a little, it collapses. It is the debt implosion that will cause the dislocations and it is the debt implosion that will cause the coming hyperinflation which is the central banks way of dealing with it (more on that in a bit).
The social welfare network will be strained to the limit and it will have to be expanded. That means more government spending (and control), more debt, larger deficits, more monetizing by the Fed. All of that GUARANTEES stress on the dollar and that is exactly the environment in which gold and silver flourish.
I want to spend a moment on hyperinflation. Do you have even the slightest doubt that this is where things are headed? If you study history and understand what happens when a country over-prints its currency and monetizes its debt then you shouldn’t. The Fed (and all of the other major central banks) has unleashed a policy of print, print and print some more. They have made Bernanke’s “drop hundred-dollar bills from helicopters” look like child’s play. The Fed’s balance sheet will double this year, and our deficit could reach $3.5 trillion or more this year. Everything is being papered over. This has never worked before and it won’t work now. There will be casualties and the main casualty will be the dollar. Yes, we will get hyperinflation, which will be in response to the Greatest Depression we are heading into. Remember, the virus didn’t cause the economic upheaval. “The weakness was always present.” It would have happened anyways, but the Coronavirus just forced the timing.
The formulae looks like this – depression, hyperinflation, then depression. But this time the hyperinflation will not be a localized event, it will be a global event. Why? Because the dollar is the world’s reserve currency so everyone will be affected. Can you imagine the rush into gold and silver, a global rush, that will ensue? Trust me, if you don’t have your ounces soon, you will not be able to source them later, at any cost. This is no longer a “hypothetical” it is now a reality.
Many of my religious friends (Jewish and Christian) tell me “it’s God’s will.” They could be right, but I believe we were given free will to make our own choices and will sink or swim based on our choices. I studied Predestination vs Free Will in my philosophy courses while in college. Predestination never worked for me, because if that were the case, no one would be responsible for their actions, which would have been pre-ordained. Understand that you have the ability to choose NOW on how to allocate assets in your portfolio, I suggest you think long and hard about how paper assets will fair versus gold and silver in the new world that has descended upon us. It is a new world now and your past experiences will not guide you on how to act going forward. Tomorrow is nothing like yesterday.
More and more it appears that we will be forced to abandon the dollar and use a new digital currency that will replace it. I am not about to discuss the pros and cons of this mainly because there will be NO pros. You will lose all privacy and will be taxed on every transaction. This is another benefit to owning gold and silver. I always maintained that a key benefit to gold and silver was PRIVACY. Once we enter the digital currency world, that benefit will be more important than ever. You will be able to barter or trade gold and silver outside the system. So, think about that in addition to the “preservation of your wealth” aspect of owning precious metals.
It is not my goal in life to “save” anyone. I find it to be difficult enough just to save me and my family. Most other people don’t listen anyways. Especially if your message is “doom and gloom”. I am not a pessimist. I am a realist who sees things as they are and that has led me to see things in a negative way. Rather than sulk and complain, I make CHOICES that help keep me out of harms way. And if that means being early, then so be it, because in this case you can’t afford to be late.
Another of my strong beliefs is that most people are born with the ability to set the course of their own destiny. It is usually based on their choices. We have many choices to make and most of them are not particularly important, BUT there will be a few choices we must make that will make the difference between success and failure in our lives. We are now faced with one of those life altering choices – do we choose to believe life will return to the old normal? Will our money be safe in traditional investments like stocks, bonds and real estate? Or will the world forever be different and our future is one that will include a Great Depression and a currency collapse and hyperinflation? This is a choice you must make. If you don’t choose, the markets will choose for you. Either you are all in or you are all out. There is no middle ground here. For those of you who think people like me, who have been warning of this outcome for a long time, don’t deserve any credit for their insight, because “even a broken clock is right twice a day,” I say – so what! This IS ONE OF THOSE TWICE A DAY TIMES.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Open your eyes; what is happening may be a new experience to you, but it is crystal clear. Only false hope will keep you from seeing the new reality. I remember Richard Russell (he was the best) writing that if all you have to going for you is hope, you are in big trouble.
Haven’t read all of it yet, but read some of it — what do you think of that?
Going digital is the part that caught my eye. The guy that wrote this sells precious metals for a living so he is talking his book. I think precious metals are good to have now, but I do not think we will ever go back on a gold standard as gov’ts will not want the restrictions that come with that. They love those unlimited budgets.
“If you are feeling too happy, read this.”
Thanks grim reaper.
Yeah, it’s no wonder why the PPP ran out of money, small business is/was already worried about the longer impact.
I am sorry but you lose me when you blame people who have been forced by our leaders into lower and lower paying jobs as we’ve transitioned to a service industry while also pretending anyone in the service industry is unworthy of a living wage.
People make bad choices but not all people who struggle financially are only struggling financially due to “bad choices”
Our society doesn’t value lots of labor this pandemic is proving is essential (grocery workers, fast food workers, etc…).
My hope is this virus changes that but I doubt it.
And by the way, the whole purpose of forming a society is to take care of the weak among us, if we just want Darwinism to run our country I see no reason to live in a society at all. I’ll just take whatever I want from those weaker than me.
Basically your post becomes nothing more than “poor people are poor because they make bad choices” as opposed to blaming corporations and voters in general for decided some jobs aren’t “adult jobs” totally ignoring that someone has to work at McDonalds at noon.
Your points are good youngorst, but so are some of Texas Beavs. While some workers are getting screwed, as you point out, (and the rich get richer) there are in fact people who live pay check to pay check to maintain a certain life style by choice (not to just pay for shelter and put food on the table). I know…I used to be one. The first time I got laid off (some years ago) was a real wake up call. I’m very grateful this shit didn’t come along sooner.
Not saying those people don’t exist. I just don’t buy the idea that the majority of Americans are choosing to live paycheck to paycheck.
I think a significant percentage of Americans are being forced into that role.
Let’s say someone works at McDonalds for $12 an hour (saw this number on their reader in Bend) and get 30 hours which are random because fast food places don’t give most people a “set” schedule. Even if we assume they pay nothing in taxes that is still only $360 a week. Before taxes that is $1440 a month. Now for the benefit of the doubt let’s say they live with someone who works 40 hours a week at Mid-Oregon Credit Union and makes $17 an hour which is $2720 a month before taxes.
Lets assume they pay no taxes. that means this couple has $4,160 per month to cover rent (good luck finding a place in Bend for under $1400), food, gas, cell phone (not an optional item anymore), internet (also not optional anymore), utilities etc….
And of course taxes are a thing so they have way less money than that anyway.
This couple working 70 hours a week would be living paycheck to paycheck rather they are spending above their means or not.
As someone whose dad died when I was 5 and whose mom spent the next 15 years working 2 jobs to take care of her 2 sons and his daughter I get pretty ticked off when people act like poor people are only poor by choice.
I don’t believe he is saying all poor people are poor by choice. He is saying some people are poor by choice. I have a niece and a nephew and Grandpa told them he would pay for their schooling no matter how much it was (great opportunity). The niece is a beautician and the nephew is a mechanical engineer. Nothing wrong with either job, but one comes with more economic opportunities. Some people are lucky, some make their own luck, and other are very unlucky. Life sure isn’t the same for everyone, but people need to own their choices.
He uses the word “most”
“But MOST people now find themselves in harm’s way because of their own deliberate poor CHOICES.”
Maybe if he meant some he should have said some?
To be fair, living in an expensive place like Bend is a choice. $4160/month is definitely a liveable after-tax income.
Is it? I mean, Bend needs retail, fast food, bar, restaurant workers, etc…..
Where do you propose those people live?
Anywhere that’s cheaper that also needs those occupations (e.g. Boise). If Bend really NEEDS those occupations, they’ll pay more for them as labor supply dries up.
Bend’s population has doubled in the last twenty years. You can’t tell me people moved there just because it was the only place they could get a retail job.
Got it, just strap up them bootstraps and move too Boise.
Simple.
Got it.
You flatly miss the point so I am just gonna let it go.
Actually, I’d like to understand whatever point you’re trying to make here.
For the record, I agree with you that it’s a problem that wages haven’t kept up with inflation and people have been disastrously misled into taking on tons of student debt. I’m not in the “all poor people are poor because of bad decisions” camp.
If you have the opportunity to improve your situation, why shouldn’t you take it? You’re incredibly dismissive of this concept, and I don’t understand why.
It isn’t about people moving to Bend, no one gives a shit about making sure they can afford to live here.
As someone who was born in Redmond hospital in 1979 and graduated from Redmond High School in 1997 and whose grandpa was so well known in Bend (lumber industry) that he has a memorial in the Old Mill District.
It is about those people like that being able to afford to live here.
Telling someone “you should just move somewhere cheaper” isn’t a solution.
Maybe “most” is 51%….eh?
And if you think 51% of poor people are poor because of “deliberate” choices; I disagree.
Unless you consider basic human mistakes people make throughout life “deliberate” choices to stay poor.
I agree, it sucks when your hometown changes and becomes unlivable.
Was reading that the CDC has updated the list of symptoms that they can say reliably coincide with Covid19 patients by adding 6 more to the previous 3.
It reads exactly like the list of symptoms I experienced off and on over a period of 2 weeks in early March:
“Chills, Repeated shaking with chills, Muscle pain, Headache, Sore throat, New loss of taste or smell.
…
Previously, the CDC listed just three known symptoms: shortness of breath, cough and fever.
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The recent additions, he said, reflect the CDC’s confidence in stating: “we can say reliably that these six symptoms go with COVID-19.””
For me, the symptoms came and went in the following order:
Day 1: In evening, sudden chills out of nowhere followed my shaking/trembling of body associated with the chills. Like shivering but not really controllable. Lasted for first several hours.
Day 2: Little to no appetite(loss of sense of taste drove this) Fatigue
Day 3: Little to no appetite, swollen/sore throat develops, fatigue
Day 4-7: Appetite returns, swollen/sore throat, mild headache, mild fever, mild muscle pains, fatigue gradually improves.
Day 8-14: Respiratory issues throughout day for next week. Mostly clearing throat of phlegm.
Day 15: Mostly back to normal, although respiratory issues come and go for quite a while after I’m feeling better
Just posting for informational purposes in case anybody is experiencing the same, or already has.
This was from about March 14th to 28th.
To this day, I still can here some slight wheezing type sound when I breathe deeply. That has never fully gone away. It’s not bad, but it’s not normal for me.
When I was sick in early to mid March it started as a wicked sore throat with tons of tonsil stones. I did a ton of vinegar and salt water rinses and that went away by like day 4. Went backcountry skiing with my buddy like day 3 and was pretty spent after maybe climbing 2000’. Then day 5-10 or so got random chills and felt a bit run down. Possibly some shortness of breath mixed in there.
The chills/trembling part is weird. I’ve only had the before with bad food poisoning once. That was worse though because of the nausea and general purging your body goes through with food poisoning.
Could have been norovirus if you had chills too, that stuff is nasty. My mid March sickness was weird, it was so mild at the same time, I ended up working through it since I had to have gotten it from work, at least that was the mental gymnastics I used to justify not burning up all my leave. My wife did develop a cough for like a week. My infant had diarrhea for like 24 hours and my 2 year old had diarrhea for a day then a cough for like 3 days. Kids are resilient. I kind of suspect we had it because my wife has been around several patients that later tested positive and all she had on was a surgical mask. Been assigned to confirmed covid patients too but had full n95 then. The money people at the hospital really push hard to get people out of the negative pressure rooms.
Norovirus is very possible for that food poisoning like episode. It was like a decade ago. Probably yhe worst illness I have ever been through, but duration was thankfully short.
For the March illness, it was pretty similar to what you say for our family. I worked through week 1(but i already work from home, so it is easy to pull off) and week2 was Spring Break(basically sat around home and went out for a few hikes that week)
Kids both got mild illnesses but it barely phased them. Wife had symptoms more similar to mine, but more mild too. All in all, I feel lucky it wasn’t to difficult to go through for me. The duration amd uncertainty of “what’s next?” were the worst parts. Going to bed you were sure if you’d wake up feeling better than the previous day or worse, and crossing fingers it wouldn’t develop into the more severe symptoms. Then, suddenly, started feeling mostly back to normal again one day and moved on.
there’s also a phenomenon known as “Covid toe.” It looks like a bad case of athlete’s foot. Hits young people apparently. I saw a story about it last night on the CBC.
I’ve had worse than Covid toe for years. It would be an improvement
With as much as people talk about gold and hyperinflation of the US dollar I am surprised cryptocurrency never comes up. What are people’s thoughts on that? Any people out the own any?
I own some and also the GBTC.
My thoughts on crypto: better than dollars, but very likely it gets taxed heavily to penalize people smart enough to ditch dollars. Same concerned I have with gold. Federal Reserve will issue digital currency soon, too, which neuters all crypto. I think the underlying blockchain technology is way more fascinating than the digital coins…it will revolutionize the world along with AI.
My problem with Bitcoin is the infrastructure around it makes it clumsy to use/move around and less liquid.
That’s every new technology. Teslas crash into things, Windows had blue screen of death for decades, etc. Par for the course with new tech.
My problem with BTC is there’s already better coins. Zero moat around it. That’s why blockchain is the real winner not the coins.
Agree about competition. The brand is the only thing Bitcoin has going for it. I’d rather my value not be stored in something so dependent on brand perception alone.
Seems like good news for covid19. This is the same drug the Chinese said didn’t work at all. Apparently they were lying (surprise surprise).
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/experimental-drug-proved-effective-against-coronavirus-in-us-study-company-says.html
Or it was a poorly designed study by Gilead in order to sell their drug. Notice how they aren’t releasing their study yet?
It’s at least the 3rd time Gilead has done this. All to jack up the stock…this is Amerika.
So now DR Fauchi is a liar also?The shiny rocks go round and round.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/health/gilead-remdesivir-coronavirus.amp.html
Methodology. Peer reviewed study.
I know you’ll shit your pants with someone asking for real science, but you probably have a few gubermint dollar bills to wipe it with.
Fuchi must be on the board of trustees at Gilead. That the only possible explanation he would say something like that. That or he’s actually seen the study and knows more then we do. Take your pick.
Hang on, I’m wipin’ my a$$.
My name is Blaine, and I wipe my dirty bum with da dirty dolla bills.
While watching da Fox news. Da Fauchi said it true.
So we’re trusting the Chinese now? Oh, ok. I can never keep the up with who we love and who we hate. Here tell me how Oxford is lying to us in this study.
https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/coronavirus-vaccine-trials-at-oxford-show-promise-researchers-say.html
It’s not about that. Just post peer reviewed studies with the methodology (at least need this).
Then we can figure out if it’s flawed or legit. E.g. if remdesivir is given to people in late stages as they’re already recovering (very possible since that’s when hydroxychloroquine was being given), then the study means zilch, whereas if they’re getting the drug day 1 and showing immediate improvement it means a lot. Many other variables. We made a pact last week none of these bogus headlines without the accompanying studies and methodologies!
It’s long and meandering, but my mind gravitated more toward the point about saving/not saving, people being wiped out because they have no savings, etc.
First, the Fed is doing everything in their power to ensure this isn’t the case for many businesses who ought to fail. They’re being bailed out instead, under the guise of “THINK OF THE JOBS!” (even though bailed out Boeing is slashing 10k jobs, anyway, and no one understands how bankruptcy works). Nothing will change in this regard.
There are plenty of reasons why most households aren’t prepared for a shock like this. Some of it is systemic (wages not keeping up with inflation, job destruction, people getting pushed into taking on college debt without understanding the ramifications, etc.) and some of it more personal in nature. For example, I’d imagine parents of the most recent generations didn’t emphasize saving money as much as their predecessors. People have to be exposed to stress/risk/pain in order to appreciate the need to take counter-measures. Unfortunately, parenting strategies and governing strategies have evolved over the last 40-50 years to shelter individuals from this stress/risk/pain and the lessons that come along with it.
The author acts like there will be no life after the coming collapse. Will things be different? Of course. But hopefully individuals will relearn how to save and prepare for disasters and we’ll emerge with a more resilient society. That’s what happened after the Great Depression. People eventually forgot those lessons learned over time. It’s time to learn them again.
People in my generation (Z) don’t understand the importance of saving, and believe that college guarantees a job. They will be hit the hardest.
Its understandable, they have been told for years that they will get a job. They just figured that sjw degree was worth more than 15 an hour. It may prove to be true, just not yet.
I’m not sure it’s a generational thing. I know people like the get off my lawn stuff, but there’s a huge amount of Boomers with next to nothing to retire on and many have had to go back to work (or at least were, pre ‘rona).
Agreed, but they weren’t raised by Depression-era parents. They were raised post-WWII when everyone could buy a cheap house and everything was perfect.
All great points….my parents obviously didn’t learn from their Great Depression era parents (my grandparents were very good with money) — parents always living paycheck to paycheck, no savings. Well one year it caught up with us (7 of us – 5 kids) and we ended up homeless for a two weeks “camping” in Champeog state park near Newberg, Or. LOL…..we can all look back at it now and laugh. We spent another month and a half living out of a storage building my dad had enough money to rent while we applied for government housing — thank god for section 8. Some of my best memories are with my younger brother and I swimming/rafting up and down the Willamette River with absolutely nothing else to do during that time.
…..oh yeah, point being that myself, including all my siblings with one exception, save the hell out of our money, and are very good stewards of each of our finances. We all chop in and take care of our parents when they need money.
I recall some women back in the day who “showed promise” but they didn’t all come through.
Edit: Meant for Black Bandit
Martenson’s latest on the new drug. Sounds like the testing has some issues (shocker). The amount of bad science around Corona is insane. Since it can’t be wished away, we instead just lower our scientific standards?
as you are all getting to know, I have a high regard for WSJ columnist Holman Jenkins. He had another outstanding column today, which I’m happy to provide a digest for. The basic issue we face-
“the press can’t fulfill its necessary communication function.”
“Almost all countries are pursuing a more-or-less goal, not a reduce-to-zero goal. Sweden expects a higher curve but in line with its hospital capacity. Sweden’s neighbors are not avoiding the same deaths with their stronger mandates, they are delaying them, to the detriment of other values.”
“Please, if you are a journalist reporting on these matters and can’t understand ‘flatten the curve,’ as a multivariate proposition, leave the profession. You are what economists call a ‘negative marginal product’ employee. Your non-participation would add value. Your participation subtracts it.”
“Adjusted for today’s population . . . 1957’s [flu epidemic] killed the equivalent of 230,000 Americans.”
“So far, Covid has killed 57,000. Before patting ourselves on the back, however, notice that we haven’t stopped the equivalent deaths, only delayed them while we destroy our economy and the livelihoods of millions of people. That’s because public officials haven’t explained how to lift their unsustainable lock-downs while most of the public remains uninfected and there’s not vaccine.”
“The most important thing the government could do now is give people the information they need to resurrect the economy. The WHO’s Maria Van Kerkhove, on return from Wuhan, said flatly the disease was NOT spread in casual interaction but in close family and institutional settings. Hendrick Streeck, the virologist in Germany’s Heinsburg district, found similar results. He saw little evidence that shopping or even touching contaminated surfaces posed a significant risk to a well-advised public.”
In China “80% [of cases] involved transmission in the home, 34% in public transportation. Only two people were found to have been infected in an outdoor setting.”
End this madness, end the lock-downs. Go for it, thumb-downers.
How do they know where they contracted it?
Went to ace hardware today. No one had a mask, parking lot was mostly full. Texas is open for business. Felt great to get out, drive around, listen to my tunes. Been on the same tank of diesel for a month.
Ace Hardware? Never closed in Oregon.
Nor in Texas
Went to the local farm/garden store today. Considered essential i guess. Fairly large store. Parikng lot was full and store was packed. Most people had no masks and were doing their best to stay away from each other. They need to open up everything else, its crazy to let everything else sit vacant when you see a place so obviously full of people. Also went to a shop to have a new hydraulic hose made. Again, lots of people coming and going. Time to open it up.
Except, bars and restaurants sort of take an essential part of what you saw today away (people staying away from each other).
Bars, restaurants and similar establishments entire business model depends on people being close to each other.
Thats my point. They are full. People are passing by one another constantly in the aisles. Open those restaurants and bars up. Perhaps a few less seats/tables being available to customers. Keep them farther apart then they would usually. The stores i was at yesterday again, were full. If them, why not others? Its past time for the “essential” label to be tossed in this state. If a person chooses not to go then thats a personal decision for them. I think that if they do open up, these places would be full also.
“Keeping them further apart” makes the entire business model ineffective.
And more important, what about the 64 year old waitress that has unemployment now and would now be forced to choose between risking her health or not eating?
Do you have a solution?
I also want bars open, this shit sucks.
But it is easy for me to say “It is my choice”
It isn’t a “choice” for workers.
OK to open with mandate that mask must be worn, or given out to those in need…..then I’m on board. Otherwise no mask, then no shoppy!
How does this work with the restaurant/bar industry? Pretty hard to eat and drink through a mask.
Which is really the only industry that I am talking about.
Take-out. We’ve been supporting community by getting take-out a lot more than BC (Before Covid). I’ve never given the mask a try while eating, but I’ll take your word for it.
I’m not sure you can accurately say the lockdown is only delaying the death toll. Delaying deaths while a vaccine is developed is going to reduce the number of deaths. It’s not a matter of die now or die later. It’s a matter of survive until you can get immunity.
Go for it, thumb-downers.
Well that didn’t go as planned.
there’s an epidemic of common sense breaking out. I picked up another ally this morning–Elon Musk calls the lock-downs fascist. Another IRONY, Angry– The true authoritarians are in several state houses.
Why do you believe you have the right to get workers sick?
How is your freedom to go to a bar of higher value than their freedom to not get sick?
I am happy you find places being full to be a good thing.
I cut down to my trips as much as possible because I see what is happening to “essential” workers right now.
You know there is a worker strike planned at Amazon/Whole Foods tomorrow? The workers are legitimately scared but your “right to choose” is more important that their rights right?
Way too many variables in this country. Open up the economy with all the safe guards mandated and in place. If the idiots want to get out there and work that is fine by me, but if they’re not covering up and mindful of the guidelines to protect EVERYONE’s health, the hell I’ll be stopping in for business. We’ve come too far to fuck this up…two weeks of decline in cases as recorded by hospitals.
Unfortunately we have to learn about the virus while we learn about ourselves, how our population reacts to it AND reacts to being under duress with varying state and local government directions/guidelines.
We are in one giant natural science experiment right now, whether we like it or not. There is little known about the short term effects, let alone medium and long term effects (like strokes, blue toes, blood diseases) and what it will do to your body. I certainly don’t want to get the virus to learn what it can do to my body, and I certainly don’t want our children to be guinea pigs in the whole scheme of this spreading disease. Doctors are learning more about it everyday and are being cautious….rather be safe then sorry, and obviously don’t have this thing under control. I want to return back to normal as much as the next guy, but unfortunately we won’t be able to for a long time. Each area and region of the country of exposure will have different needs and circumstances to fully open up, even then people must wear the proper PPE. Read about Hokkaido Japan, they tackled the virus correctly initially, opened their economy thinking they were good, then a second wave hit and now they have 4x and set back two months. What happened? Well folks from around the country heard Hokkaido was “open”, flocked to Hokkaido then inadvertently spread the disease further. The point being is — from Our country, our states, our cities, and then …..our family is a microcosm for the spread of Covid, all it takes is one of us getting the disease to potentially spread this thing to our vulnerable family members (aka, our parents, those with diabetes, blood clotting and asthma….of which my family has all of the above). We are in this for the long haul, possibly another year before we talk about going back to normal (no social distancing, no PPE, etc). Regardless of what the experts are saying, regardless of what the news is saying, regardless of what our neighbors are saying we will go back to our jobs within the next month or two, and we absolutely need to keep playing it safe. Until we have more wide spread testing and knowledge of this virus, I would strongly urge everyone to keep wearing your PPE (masks, gloves), disinfect everything after every trip or interaction with others outside/inside the home and limit frivolous travel or activities that would increase your exposure. Don’t let your guard down for a second. Too many people out there who don’t give a shit or don’t have a clue.
I tend to agree we need to catiously reopen stuff as it makes sense. No huge crammed concert venues for a while obviously. But I don’t know that the author can state unequivocally that flattening the curve does not prevent deaths. I believe herd immunity is based partly on transmission rate. If the transmission rate is lower then herd immunity sets in at some slightly lower percentage than the same virus with a higher transmission rate. He states that the transmission rate has no bearing on the herd immunity percentage required like it is a fact.
We don’t even know if herd immunity is a thing for this virus. Maybe we should figure that out before we rely on it as a strategy?
Well that would be based on how long antibodies last in your body, which won’t be know for a while.
Which is why I wouldn’t pin the hopes of my society on it.
It is madness. The governor of Maine said that the lockdown there will continue indefinitely. The have a total of 33 patients in the hospital with with the wuhan crud today. 33. Amazing.
Do you or do you not support Trump’s White House?
You guys act like states are ignoring the guidance from Trump’s White House?
Its pretty plain that the states are doing what they wish, no matter what Trump says, or anyone else for that matter. And I do not agree with Trump on everything.
While that is the first time you’ve given any indication Trump is anything but infallible so cool.
I’ll take it.
Not true. At all. But thats fine.
Name 3 other Trump polices you disagree with.
Which is good. That’s how the Federal system is supposed to work. State governments should do what’s in the best interest of their constituents.
Fully opening Maine before other North Eastern states would trigger a flood of Northeasterners to pour into Maine, as it would represent the only vacation destination with hotels/restaurants in operation. I’d imagine their infrastructure isn’t ready to handle that.
Similar thing will happen in Oregon if/when they open more rural counties earlier than more densely populated areas. Oregon Coast is closed? I guess I’m heading east to Wallowa Lake.
What about a soft opening, but with the requirement you have to wear a mask while shopping? I appreciate the stores that are limiting customers and asking for masks. Sensible and responsible, all in the name of the greater good.
And yet, I will be told I’m infringing on someone’s God given right.
^^^^Im on-board!!!^^^^
For those interested in a subject that is non-viral. An interesting job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZCLKq1XVFg
my best friend is working to become a bar pilot. he’s been studying for years. just took his second round of testing and landed at 3rd on the hiring list. just needs some of the old timers to retire and he’s in. the pay is life changing but the risk and level of commitment is high. at 44 years old, he’s in a great position to eventually get the gig. thanks for sharing
And for those that find ships and structures interesting, this video shows the inside of a ship during rough seas (the inside shots start at about the one minute mark). A lot of flexing. Hope I am doing this correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmlTk_3NN_g&feature=emb_logo
Saw that video yesterday. Amazing the amount of flex those large ships have.
They have to; amazing amount of energy in ocean waves.
https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-state-university-color-blue-mas-subramanian-chemistry/
Just found out a friend died in her sleep from blood clots and strokes. Ruled asymptomatic covid related. 27 years old last month and very healthy.
I wasn’t aware of this risk so here’s some reading.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/29/847917017/doctors-link-covid-19-to-potentially-deadly-blood-clots-and-strokes
Wow, sorry my friend. Good friend of yours? How you holding up?
Yes, it’s mentioned several times above in this thread, the stroke issue, and on April 23rd that news broke. I wrote about it in the prior thread:
angry April 23, 2020 at 7:07 am Covid toe, too! I’m hearing increased stroke/clotting in young people.
Married to a college friend. Not super close but still a shock. I’m alright but will definitely have a drink on the deck tonight and think about the good.
Sorry Nuke
Sorry Nuke…really tough.
Sorry, Nuke. Only 27, wow.
Value each day.
That’s terrible. My condolences, NB.
sorry to hear that, Nuke. my condolences.
667 sorry had to get it off that last number
Funny, I had a similar though and was about to advance it but you beat me to it. DEMONS! BE GONE!
Essential (and wildly underpaid) workers are making their feelings clear about “opening back up”
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7j8zw/amazon-whole-foods-instacart-workers-organize-a-historic-mass-strike
Maybe we should consider the needs of our low paid fellow Americans instead of whining because you can’t go to your favorite bar?
That’s a false dichotomy. You can reopen while also enhancing protective measures for workers that are being exposed. The problem these strikers are pointing out is that they aren’t being provided with appropriate health protections.
You can but corporations aren’t. And I see no reason to believe these corporations will if they aren’t already.
And if somebody refuses to go to work because of unsafe conditions, they’re fired and will receive no unemployment or any other sort of help to get through this.
Risk your life so I can buy another house, peasant.
Who is whining about going to a bar? I have seen no one. Thats just over the top but not surprising. To reiterate, once again, lets open up businesses that have been closed down. All other that have been opened are packed on a daily basis so lets let others open their own places of business. Let people make the decisions as to where go. My posts above are in regards to the worry i have for these buisness owners. How you cant see that is quite frankly, beyond me.
Let their employees choose between getting sick and not being able to pay rent!!!!!!!!!
How you can’t see that is quite frankly, beyond me.
If your afraid of getting sick, then stay home. Its quite obvious this thing is not even close to what was projected. If an employee wants to stay home, than they can. Let people make decisions for themselves, not just sit there waiting.
Yeah, and when that happened at meat packing plants they were ordered back to work.
You act as though people that get no sick pay can just “stay home”
You’ve never worked in the bar industry have you? Calling in sick is barely a thing because they can’t just open up for the day without a bartender.
Then go talk to the people that run the meat packing plants. Im talking about main street in towns all across the country. If they dont want to go back to work then dont. If the buisness owner wants to start back up, then they should be able to. Is this that hard to understand? Free will. Make your own life decisions. And by the way, i know a 23 year old that works at a brewery/restaurant who is ready to work when it opens up but is grateful and very surprised that he gets 600 a week over his regular unemployment that is under 300 a week.
“Its quite obvious this thing is not even close to what was projected.”
How so? Wasn’t the CDC/Fed projection in late March that 60k total Americans would die from Covid19 if we used social distancing measures? And here we are eclipsing 60k and it’s still April.
So what is the plan for the waitress that is at risk and absolutely should not go back to work
She loses her unemployment and ability to stay home the day the place re-opens.
What will you say to her kids when she dies from Covid? “That beer she served me sure was worth it, sorry she’s dead”
Oh and it was your boy Trump (not the owners of meat packing plants) that ordered employees back to work. The meat packing plants were shutting down to keep their employees safe and Trump said, nope, they must risk their lives.
But I know, infallible.
Out of curiosity, did you have the same problems when we shut down airlines after 9/11? After all, that was was less of a big deal than it was projected.
If you’re afraid of getting blown up by terrorists, then stay home.
What I think is silly is Target can stay open because they have a small grocery section, but your local mom and pop clothing store has to stay closed. This really seems to be disproportionately impacting the little guys.
Agree, businesses are all going to start adding a small grocery section to their stores to be considered essential in the future, should something like this happen again.
“Welcome to your neighborhood Grace’s Hair Salon/Snack Shack. How would you like a hair coloring or some orange juice? Or both?”
I don’t disagree and I understand the concerns for small businesses. But there are competing concerns here.
Business owners are 1 stakeholder their employees options to protect their health is a competing stakeholder.
I admit I don’t have the right answer but I at least acknowledge that small business owners aren’t the only stakeholders whose needs should be considered.
Just to add on, most of my friend group is in the bar industry and most of them have no interest in risking their health. That includes 2 bar owners.
Block 15 just opened for pick-up and delivery, yes including beer! Squirrels is supposed to be opening for pick up and growler fills, and probably can/bottle sales, starting any day. 4Spirits is doing pick-up for their food and spirits. So some pub and bar owners are figuring ways around this.
On the topic of staying home, saw this somewhere (don’t believe it was here on ab):
Your grandparents were asked to fight a World War, you are being asked to stay on the couch. YOU CAN DO THIS!
Saw something similar ‘Anne Frank stayed in a single room for 3 years, your have netflix, the internet and food delivery’ etc
Wonder where Dalton ends up? And Cam for that matter. I wonder if the Jags go for Dalton? It could win them another game or two which wouldn’t be good for landing Trevor Lawrence. But that might put Luton in an awkward spot, still think you’d have to keep Luton on the roster though just cause you used a decent draft pick on him. Also anyone see Winston signed with New Orleans for crazy cheap? Be interesting to see how much the residency year helps him down the road, he might be a decent bounce back guy come 2021, not to mention it will be a humbling experience. All this is why I say you don’t overpay for decent QBs. You pay the greats obviously but guys like Goff or Jimmy G at close to max money just hamper your team when value bin guys like Dalton or Cam are out there.
Winston took way less money to sign in NO
Yeah, not sure what other offers he had but you got to like him investing in his own future like that.
Supposedly his Lasik fixed blurry vision and depth perception. How does a QB make the nfl with blurry vision and poor depth perception? Shit, I could have had a shot!
Wonder if Seattle tries to grab one of these guys as a backup? Or Minny for that matter, be a huge upgrade over my guy Mannion.
One ends up in NE most likely.
Seattle would probably take Newton but they ain’t going to pay a back up more than something pretty close to the minimum.
Jags won’t sign anyone, they want to lose.
Dalton and Newton are going to have to wait until someone gets hurt. They’ll get picked up pretty quickly then. I think even at min salary they are too expensive to be backups at this point.
Minimum salaries count the same against the cap no matter what.
That said, Newton ain’t signing for the minimum
I should have mentioned, vet minimums are higher than rookie minimums.
I understood that already but even a 10 year veteran who gets over a million dollars will only count as a about half that as a cap hit, it is known as the veteran minimum benefit.
Basically, on a 1 year deal a minimum salaried vet’s cap hit is roughly equal to a rookie’s minimum salary cap hit.
Sure, the owner pays more but cap wise it is meaningless. And cap hit is all NFL teams really care about.
Trump’s America
https://twitter.com/vote4robgill/status/1255922426120146947
I remember saying a couple weeks back that if I were a Democratic governor I’d be bulking up my security.
What are you suggesting?
I’ll put it this way, if a group of mostly black men walked into a state house gallery with weapons I doubt the police would just stand there.
But larger point. Members of Trump’s cult, especially the one’s in the alt-right militia movement have committed more terrorism in America than Muslim extremists have so I would be far from surprised if one of these incels decides to take a shot.
Since 2001*
Looks to me like some of the residents of Michigan have a beef with their elected officals
And that makes it justifiable to bring guns into the gallery and make the lawmakers feel threatened enough to put bullet proof vests on?
And most Michigan residents don’t agree with these nuts.
Don’t mistake loud and obnoxious sentiment as popular sentiment
https://twitter.com/SenPolehanki/status/1255899318210314241
Again, if these were black men do you really think this would be allowed?
Try being honest.
why Are you so full of hate
Why do you guys always refuse to answer straightforward questions?
As to my hate.
I hate authoritarians. Across the board. And I am not afraid to admit it.
Trump, McConnell and the whole lot of the GOP in 2020 is nothing but alt-right authoritarianism disguised as conservativitism
No.
Do you not know that the US has a massive alt-right militia movement?
Have you joined one of said militias? No? Do you go to events promoted by one of said militias (like the rally in MI)? No? Then you aren’t a member of an alt-right militia.
You might think I am on the witness stand at a trial but I am not. I choose what I want to say and what I will respond to. You love to roll around in the mud. I don’t mind my boots getting muddy, sometimes but not my clothes.
Rather than being in attack mode most of the time why don’t you share something positive.
If black men did this most likely they would be confronted by police. Which is a civil rights violation. Blacks should be able to legally carry any weapon they choose as long as they are not a prohibited individual.
I’m confused are you trying to “gotcha” conservatives on here, or are you agreeing that anyone who does this including blacks be arrested for exercising there rights?
I am not trying to “gotcha” on anything. And can you point to where I advocated for anyone’s arrest? I’d be curious because I am 100% certain I typed no such words.
I think common sense (and gun training) would dictate you don’t need a rifle with you in the gallery at your state House.
Handgun? Sure, if you carry a handgun regularly go for it. But a rifle? Other than admitting how small your dick is what purpose does it serve?
As to TB, I answer your questions. Why is it wrong of me to hope for the same from you?
Guns are tools nothing more. Some choose screwdrivers, some choose impact drills. Why does it matter? Carrying a rifle is preferable, even to the police that are there.
Imagine 100 dudes show up concealing hand guns vs 100 guys who have slung rifles. The police know exactly who has what when carrying a rifle. Not so much for the concealed guys. Just because you can’t see a weapon doesn’t mean its not there, likewise it doesn’t mean its more or less dangerous.
I will concede that entering the capital armed in this manner screams “look at me” but that also may be what they’re looking for. I would much prefer them to be civil and stay on the capitol steps.
Honest question, what do you think their intent was?
I believe their intent was to threaten and intimidate Democratic legislatures.
Was do you believe they were doing?
Their intent was to show up with guns and get the media to lose it shot. Like I said, its a look at me moment. I guess if someone was scared of a shouldered gun sure you could call it intimidation. Dem legislators calling for the police to confront them when they are doing nothing but protesting is also intimidation.
Since you hate authoritarians so much, should we have the protest squashed, or a fight of some sort? Maybe we can suspend the first amendment to not allow them to assemble or speak their mind?
“Looks to me like some of the residents of Michigan have a beef with their elected officals”
They haven’t heard of the ballot box?
So im a terrorist for supporting Trump. Beautiful. Everything you post on here just became even less readable or meaningful with that last post.
No but you sure as shit can’t read.
If you are in an alt-right militia you are a terrorist
Are you in an alt-right militia?
What makes one an alt-right militia member? Having conservative views and owning a gun?
Or is this a catch-all like calling someone a racist because they have conservative views?
Answered a few posts above, accidentally hit the wrong reply link.
Apparently you don’t know that thousands of Americans are in alt-right militias. This isn’t exactly secret data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#United_States
its easier to profile brown people is why there are less islamist terror attacks.
https://www.start.umd.edu/research-projects/comparing-failed-foiled-completed-and-successful-terrorist-attacks
You have called people that support Trump cultists here before. More than once. As to what you wrote above- ” members of trump’s cult, especially the ones in the alt-right militia… thats not just singling out the “alt-right” militias. Terrorists all. You paint with a broad brush boy. I think you really would like to see a different thinking guy like me tossed in a cell. You recently made mention that your girl up and left you. Go take a hard look in the mirror and you will have a good idea why. No one on this forum spouts the hate and constant vitriol as you do. Its eating you up.
I’d say you are in a cult. And you are also terrorist adjacent.
I said my girl up and left me? Huh, I said I was single. I don’t recall saying how that went down.
I frankly don’t give a shit what you think of my opinion.
You support a wannabe despot, when you insult me it makes me feel like I am doing something right so thank you.
MI spin..and you parrot it. just lazy, i hope.. LEGAL gun owners, LEGALLY assembling.. china likes the way you sperg, tho. the natioal guard is active in all states, you require more security?
They forced their way (weapons in hand) into the gallery that was closed to allow social distancing for the politicians that were trying to work for them.
That is NOT LEGALLY assembling. That is NOT spin, that is what happened. But okay.
no arrests? armed forced entry? LOL again, LEGAL
politicians trying to remove unremoveable RIGHTS..dont have those in china?
That’s the ‘law & order’ crowd right?
For all you that think I am just some alt-left wacko, not even close.
I’m actually much closer to the Lincoln Project. I was just ahead of my time.
https://lincolnproject.us
I couldn’t care less if you are right leaning or left leaning as long as you believe in Democracy.
Right now the GOP doesn’t. And to be fair neither does the alt-left (ie Bernie Bros) and if you think I am an asshole to Trump supporters you should hear my opinions on the alt-left.
The key difference? The alt-right runs the GOP whereas Democrats largely ignore the alt-left (despite what Foxnews tells you) so I am a Democrat now.
so…china it is. your script is stale.
Believe whatever you want about me, honestly you are a stranger on the internet.
But, don’t try to tell me the GOP gives a shit about democracy.
I am curious how a bunch of former Republicans recognizing the danger of Trump is “China” but whatever justifies your belief in Donald Trump as the great hope of the downtrodden.
I am done with politics, the level of stupid amongst modern conservatives is an embarrassment but luckily I live in a blue state and am a white guy so I’ll be fine.
we live in a republic, not a democracy..gaslight away! your racism and politics are a bore, you are a divider…on a college sports board. the embarassment is all you.. maybe walking the dog will help until your fav bar opens.
It is a democracy and a republic, those words are not mutually exclusive
BEAVS FOOTBALL…….for those who come here for athletics…
GT up with a piece on Kefense Hynson and his new title, not much will change day-to-day, but he says, ” I was appreciative of the fact that coach Smith offered that up to me because any type of coordinator title is important and is precious in our business. “
Enenthough the GT was unable to come up with current photos, it’s worth the short time it takes to read. Some “coach speak” on the receivers room, including mention that Anthony Gould, “might be the fastest player we have. ”
https://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/football/osu-football-role-expands-for-kefense-hynson/article_d34f3b07-0ff0-5938-b9e4-86356e16aa39.html
ADDED: Hinson will be on this weeks podcast here:
https://osubeavers.com/news/2020/4/30/football-passing-game-coordinator-kefense-hynson-featured-on-this-weeks-podcast.aspx
Thanks for posting.
thank you!
Looks like Munyagi will be tallest WR at 6’ 1”, Bradford next at 6’ 0” (listed). Munyagi didn’t spend much time at WR in HS, mostly DB, and 6 of his 12 catches were TDs.
Speed all over at WR though, maybe the fastest across the board ever? Speed isn’t everything obviously (Hodgins anyone) but opposing teams won’t have likely have comparable speed across their DBs. Should be fun to watch if there’s a season. Butonhook! Come back to the ball. YAC!
Or the TEs in the seam…or put a TE out wide…
We have plenty of skilled TDS. Use the speed to clear and eat them up with run and TE
Speed Kills or You can’t teach speed or something like that
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNgjifw4jQE&w=560&h=315%5D
Sorry, tried again to embed.
Anyway, a little “Holy Jumpin’ Up and Down Martha” for y’all.
Some Holy Toledo too in this clip of the ’87 CW come from behind featuring GP (1)
Benny at 1:51 is nightmare fuel.
Holy shit what happens to him.
Looks like he was starting to melt.
Hey angry maybe in the next thread we can talk about if a delayed season happens how it will impact the team and the rest of the conference? Will we have an advantage with the whole coaching staff returning? What teams are disadvantaged the most in conference and so forth.
Was talking about this with a buddy of mine who is one of the few PSU Vikings fans. He’s worried if they shorten the season, they may cut out some of the non-con games first, and if that happens, he’s worried those FBS vs FCS games would be the first to go. And if that happens, the PSUs of the world will miss out on the revenue they require to actually operated a football program. They usually play 2 “bodybag” games every year. Without those games, they’re budget is toast.
psu viking fan? Rare as hens teeth. I’d assume most of their crowd consists of Portland timber fans who showed up on the wrong day.
We can do that.
Is 750 a new record for comments? Thread still seems to be working maybe we should go for 1k.
I saw RIP Uncle Phil on Twitter…it’s some other uncle Phil, though.
It’s the actor who played the Uncle Phil character from Fresh Prince of Bel Air. He died several years ago, hit I guess the cast from the show had some sort of reunion online, so they memorialized Uncle Phil. This uncle Phil was more universally loved.
oh yeah him I’m sure he died of CORONAVIRUS BOOGITY BOOGITY
Oh look you are making fun of people dieing again. So glad your ban expired.
Huh. Was this guy banned?
He’s the one that made fun of your cousins best friend dieing of covid
Weird, I remember LA Pine from long ago and don’t associate him with being a total goon. Maybe he’s going nuts.
Shell is having a Mike Riley at Nebraska moment. First time we lost the first game of the season since….
Shell Cuts Dividend For First Time Since World War II
Wow.
Amazon and Apple with pretty bad Quarters, too. Reality might be setting in for stocks…finally.
Apple might bounce back a bit next quarter with the new iPhone SE release.
I don’t get why comments like this get downvoted. Curious why someone disagrees. It is a great value and with the iOS becoming more google friendly Apple is going to start to eat into the droid market. I hate iTunes and am not a fanboy but the build quality, processor and camera are top notch.
Angry wants to get to a thousand so I thought I’d help out by observing the following:
The WHO is now endorsing the Sweden model and the consensus is growing that the virus broke out from a lab (like I said almost two months ago). Almost forgot, dirty-cop Comey’s FBI caught red handed
What the WHO actually said is…
Ryan noted that instead of lockdowns, the country has “put in place a very strong public policy around social distancing, around caring and protecting people in long-term care facilities.”
They also mentioned strong testing. We don’t have enough testing in place. Opening things up without testing and actual stated policies will result in hundreds of thousands of dead Americans.
You guys seem to think somebody is advocating for keeping the country shut down forever. Not at all. We need testing and a firmly stated policy of social distancing. Until people get that, and feel confident they’re not going to die from going to work for peanuts, the economy won’t recover.
And there’s no evidence this thing started in a Chinese lab.
Yeah if anything I want to go out to dinner yesterday.
Last thing I want is my city shut down.
Wanna Beav, you’ve got me. What does “Almost forgot, dirty-cop Comey’s FBI caught red handed” refer to?
With all these Rona-Dollars coming in it’s like Christmas in April! There ain’t nothin like having your entire fucking payroll covered for two months. All I can say is thank you to them poor folks who just don’t feel like showin up to work… err I mean “are scared they’ll get sick and can’t go to work” right. The more they bitch about how scared they are to go to work, the more Rona-dollars the feds deposit into my bank account. Hell to the yeah
What a grotesque statement.
I hope you’re drunk because the only other option is you’re an asshole.
And yet there’s an uncomfortable grain of truth in it
This is not going to end well for the degenerate gamblers…
https://www.axios.com/retail-investors-gambling-casinos-closed-coronavirus-951eefc6-f744-4e49-ac41-cf6036a52f38.html
Meanwhile, 61% of wealthy people are sitting out the rally…
A new poll via UBS Global Wealth Management shows increasing concern among the world’s wealthiest investors that a pullback in the stock market is needed before they start buying.
The new survey showed 61% of wealthy investors and business owners (2,928 investors and 1,180 business owners between April 1-20) with over $1 million in investable assets or annual revenue are expecting a selloff in the market of 5% to 20% before they would buy the dip. About 23% of respondents said it was a market that they were willing to chase. And about 16% said the latest move was a bear market rally and further downside is ahead.
and JP Morgan writes, “US GDP growth for 1Q fell 4.8% q/q saar. If there is any good news in this report, don’t believe it. These data are ugly, and are set to get much worse.”
Be careful, Beavs.
Part of the reason why so many people are in now is because brokers have started to offer no fee trading. So I’d imagine the dollars associated are lower than before.
Just reduced quite a few positions, times the dip really well for once… we’ll see if I timed the top
Smart. I’m only 20% in equity, and dollar avg’d the dip and sold into that recent run. I probably sold some shares to the degenerate Brendan Sprague who just can’t stop himself from gambling.
There will be a time to go big into equity. I don’t think people understand equity, tbh. It’s the riskiest end of the spectrum and gets paid last in bankruptcy. Even lower than junk bonds on the risk scale. Terrible time to be taking that risk imo.
It is funny these protestors in Michigan that are protesting their states social distancing policies. Funny cause I doubt these guys have very many people that actually want to hang out with them. Like they social distance by virtue of being totals tools for decades then the government tells them not to do what they all do anyway and they take up arms.
Might be their best chance to make friends?
What are you talking about? All of them are in a militia, they hang out all the time. Their summer bbq picnics are fabulous.
I feel like I missed an arguement between you, young and maybe cake up there haha.
No argument, just trying to lighten the mood.
Reminds me of a friends sister’s boyfriend. This tattooed hipster vegan in Portland. He had a background in media and took a job at a right wing talk radio station in Portland. He remained liberal but got super into shooting and in particular AR15s and similar guns, assault style or whatever you want to call them. Made fun a funny juxtaposition anyway. Was also into the body armor and cargo pants all the tactical assessors type stuff you see at the militia type rallies.
Im guessing that the thoughts of these two law professors is not uncommon thinking in most colleges across the country. Heres to hoping for 1,000.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/what-covid-revealed-about-internet/610549/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_term=2020-04-25T10%2525252525253A00%2525252525253A34&utm_content=edit-promo
Man that’s a lot of words and im burned out. Can you summarize?
I will try. Basically they are ok with the tech giants you tube, twitter, and Facebook censoring what they consider to be info that ran counter to the government line in regards to the pandemic. You shouldnt be able to question the government is one angle. It also covers the 2016 election, ( Russians everywhere) They state that the Chinese have it right and the US has been wrong in how they control the internet. They are completely ok with the tech giants and the government working together to get the “truth” out. It really is an eye opening read. And very interesting. Give yourself 15 minutes if you read it. They do make some solid points on how we give up much of our information about ourselves quite freely.
Thanks WTNY. I’ll read it tomorrow with my morning gallon of coffee! There’s gotta be a middle ground between the US and China. I believe Andrew Yang has some points in that vein too, I’ll link some if they are applicable.
Learned you can pay Quest Diagnostics for a Covid19 Antibody test. It’s $119 out of pocket. Planning to call my medical provider tomorrow to see if they cover it.
https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products/covid-19-immune-response/b580e541-78a5-48a6-b17b-7bad949dcb57
My wife got one yesterday. Results came in via email this afternoon. Negative.
How was the test administered? Did she go in to give a blood sample? Or was it some type of DIY test that you send to them in the mail?
And did insurance cover it?
Also, what prompted her to get tested?
Sorry, so many question, but I’m interested in learning more about the process
No problem. Happy to answer them. It was a blood draw and they took a vial size sample. Our understanding was insurance would not cover unless ordered by a Dr. My grandson, her and myself were all sick in succession from 1st week in January to 1st week in February. Grandson had a hardcore cold with fever off and on for 10 days. Wife had a real dry cough for 3 weeks and i spiked a fever at 102+ and was down 2 days. Thought maybe we might have been some of the milder cases.
Thanks for the info. Hoping to find time to call in about one today, if work slows down
Most tests now are a skin prick of the finger and results come within 10-20 minutes. A family member’s lab is doing them and only about 8% are coming back positive for antibodies.
The Governor of Michigan has put in place rules that are a bit eccentric. Cannot buy seeds for your garden but you can buy a lottery ticket. Certain goods are not allowed to be purchased. It has made the last month a bit tougher for them than for many other parts of the country. I would imagine if she amends a few things then the people will calm down.
Yup, its not a normal closure of certain stores. Its hit hugh government overreach level. Some stores are open but can’t sell certain items to customers, just because. It makes zero sense.
YoungOrst, you’ll like this one.
https://i.imgur.com/lEcgmrF.jpg
100% of this is true. I’m so fascinated by the fact that people continue to support trump and I found a group of trump supporters in the Dave Matthews Band fan club forum (go ahead and flame DMB, haters) that will go back and forth with me about his shit every day. Most are actually rationally minded and not the stereotypical cult-member, so they show their flawed logic with nearly every issue. They literally alter the basic rules of English to mutate what the guy says into something else. They all buy the typical both sides arguments and churn out whataboutism with every new issue.
And by rational I mean they seem like reasonable people until the topic of politics comes up.
What whataboutisms are hilarious. Talking about Obama and Hillary’s emails still…I’m surprised they’re not talking about FDR more now that Trump is a Socialist.
“Pallets of cash” to Iran, AG Holder was Obama’s “wingman” when I reference Barr being picked to run cover for Trump, “coke head Hunter Biden” if the subject of nepotism comes up, the classics: “Obama put kids in cages”. Trump lies: oh yeah “you can keep your doctor”. Trump gives Putin handys: well Obama said “after my election, I’ll have more flexibility”. Trump said dementia brain word salad: “well Obama said there’s 57 states”.
I guess everyone sucks.
This staying indoor thing is making everyone nuts, too.
The putin gets handys thing? How so? Russia has massive sanctions from the US and EU all done under Trump. I know trumps tried to back down on some of them, but congress has disagreed and those sanctions remain. All of them could go away with an EO yet trump hasn’t done that. That doesn’t sound like they are best buddies to me.
I would imagine they think the same thing about you. I have not seen one person whether for or against trump change their mind. I do not think that will change. We are a divided country.
My contribution to 1000 posts.
Let’s do some history.
Who here knows about General George Armstrong Custer and why he is one of America’s greatest heros?
I ask this question because it reminded me of some discussions that happened today on this board. And because I want to.
Sorry. I’m still fixated on Zappa doing blackface.
Is that what that is? I thought he was trying to be an old time chimney sweep. I guess thats a mop not a chimny brush.
Speaking of chimney sweeps (what?)…
I did the wiki-walk once after hearing Johnny Cash sing “Sam Hall” and tried to figure out what the hell was that song about…
At the end of the wiki-walk I had to stop when I learned that they used to sell kids into indentured servitude and shove said kids into chimneys, some with 90 degree angles, where they were often stuck and had to be burned out.
Holy hell. Do not chase song lyrics, kids
I was just kidding.
He did a whole mess of stuff in a short span. Weirdly what always comes to mind first is that he married into a family of Bacon.
Without looking anything up. General during the civil war, a colonel afterwards?. Not well liked by native americans. A sharp dresser. Possible decsendent is Trevor Lawrence.
Custer, while leading the 1st Michigan cavalry, stopped confederate general Jeb Stuart’s flanking move on the union army a Gettysburg.
Taking 500 farm boys on an almost suicidal headlong charge, Custer routed Stuart and delayed him enough that he could not get into the rear of the Army of the Potomac in order to support Pickett’s Charge.
Pickett at the time was close to folding the union center, but reserves were deployed to fill the gaps. If Stuart had made it to the rear, those reserves would have been sent to answer Stuart’s move and allowed Pickett to split the center and capturing the union artillery and thus changing the course of the Civil War.
but think how grand it would be without Mississppi, Louisana . . .
Custer’s destiny was further down the trail.
I don’t know much about him, but visited his burial place when I was a kid. Still a bunch of soldiers buried out there, with tombstones all over the hillside. Pretty eerie place to visit as a kid.
This is Phillips 66 first quarter results. Most of its assets are downstream (refining) so oil price does not effect them like it does the upstream producers. I think these results are a good barometer of the economy (how much fuel was used). I think the second quarter results will be worse.
Q1 cash flow from operations fell 55% Y/Y to $217M; cash and cash equivalents of $1.2B were 7% lower than a year ago.
The company secured a new $1B, 364-day term loan facility in the quarter, which was fully drawn as of March 31, then increased the size of the facility to $2B, with $1B of capacity remaining undrawn.
Phillips’ refining unit posted a Q1 pre-tax loss of $2.3B, compared with pre-tax income of $345M in Q4.
The company’s midstream business posted a Q1 pre-tax loss of $702M, compared with pre-tax income of $405M in Q4.
Good lord that’s ugly.
Careful using ugly here… gonna run out of adjectives by the time you read the drillers financials
I’d like to think I still have a capable irony-radar skill but my ability to prognosticate is diminishing. I thought I would generate more hits yesterday to help Angry get to a grand. So, here goes:
Another dismal performance by Biden on Morning Joe this morning, and in the friendliest setting possible. There’s nothing there folks. All we can hope is that if he gets elected is that his wife runs the show, just like Woodrow Wilson’s wife did. I like her. Because it could be Gretchen Whitmer if she gets the VP nod. There’s your authoritarian.
To answer Ripper up above (in the midst of that mimosa-fueled incoherence): Flynn’s attorney presented explicit evidence to the court yesterday that the FBI engaged in entrapment. Here’s why they wanted to take Flynn out. He was the only experienced deep-state hand in Trump’s circle when he assumed office. The rest of his team, including the president himself, was complete amateur hour. (I have to digress here is state explicitly that this is a criticism of Trump so a certain someone gets the point.) Anyway, back to my argument: Flynn wanted to reorganize the Intel sector and that community could not afford to have someone with their wits about them in a position to blow the whistle on how they spied on the Trump campaign. By point of contrast, look at the boob, Jeff Sessions over at the Justice Dept. He could be and was manipulated by Comey. So they took Flynn out. Best hit job by that sector since Dallas.
That’s the best I can do this early, Angry. Here’s hoping we can all lift a mimosa in 24 hours when we reach 1000.
If that doesn’t get us to 1,000 then nothing will.
What do you mean there’s nothing there? Ideas? Reason? Integrity? Ethics?
Name a recent President, say since Lincoln, who had anything there, if those are the qualities you’re looking for.
Biden will have zero answers. The vote is strictly the “anyone but Trump” to stave off authoritarianism a little longer. Imagine Trump gets a 2nd term and more Supreme Court justices? Stuff like that is the only reason I’m voting (D). VPs are in place for a reason, and his choice will be important for the whole “dementia” argument. I’d argue Trump has equal dementia given some of the things he’s said, but who knows.
No drinks for me til tomorrow night. Going down to once a week.
Angry, honest question. Do you find Whitmore from Michigan an Authoritarian?
I can’t comment because I haven’t followed her at all.
Angry: I could expect having to explain nuances to some readers on here, but not you. But if you insist: it’s clear Biden has lost his faculties. He’s a good guy, with good instincts before he got desperate by caving to the identity politics crowd, but he would be so easily manipulable as president that it’s scary. If the manipulator is Jill Biden, that’s okay. If it’s the current governor of Michigan, or the supposed governor of Georgia, or an air head like Kirsten Gillebrand, then we are in real trouble. A business mentor of mine once told me “watch out for the people who campaign for a job” and those three want the job so bad it is alarming. I’m reminded of Shakespeare’s “Julius Caesar”–there are a lot of people circling around Biden that have a “lean and hungry look.” They know that this will be the biggest presidential lottery of all time. Just get in there and hope your ticket is punched. (If we’re lucky, he’ll pick Klobuchar or Cuomo.) What I am really afraid of is that the neo-libs like Hillary get back in good graces. And from a policy vantage, if that crowd takes over, we’re right back where we were with Wall Street, the banks, and the big tech firms selling out this country’s country’s working class and middle class of shopkeepers in order to maximize profits.
One last thing: since this is May Day, this is a good time to stand in solidarity with the workers and avoid shopping on Amazon.
It’s a vote to have authoritarians in 2020 or somewhere down the road, so Biden is just a representation of that vote. It’s not a vote for his competence. Both guys are incompetent. Biden is less authoritarian. Therefore, gets the vote. Massive Supreme Court issues on the line, too, with Ginsberg dying any second. Trump can’t get another Justice or we’ll live with his stench for the rest of our lives.
Yeah, but that VP pick will be important.
Angry, I salute you taking your drinking down to once a week. However; surely one has to have a beer after golf; surely a good dinner begs for a glass of wine; and so on, so I won’t be going that far. Tonight we will have a scotch before dinner during the continuation of the weekly never-ending gin rummy game (and of course, a little wine with dinner). And good heavens — I did play golf today (see above) so I guess there is no hope for me.
New Martenson. I haven’t had a chance to watch it yet.
What I’ve been amazed with with Covid is that not only is the media insufferable, but the science community has now joined them. Even enabling headlines and poor narratives with junk “science.” Very disturbing, as a scientist.
I’m subscribing to this channel now. Good stuff. I feel vindicated some what with his hydroC info. Maybe its bias?
Im happy he is getting the hydro treatment some face time and at least giving some data instead of the medias anti trump diatribes all because he said we should try it.
He loses me on that one. I get what he is saying, anti-virals need to be administered early to have any effect and we just aren’t testing people until they have developed serious health issues. Maybe when we get mass testing up and running it will make sense as a treatment.
Some of that info was for prophylactic use. Sure its raw data, but its a start and needs to be studied more and in the US.
He’s the best source out there right now. Says in other videos he’s anti R and anti D so he doesn’t have skin in the game. Also an epidemiologist and economist.
He was a big “peak oil” guy and got that wrong years ago, not seeing shale and demand issues, but overall he’s very good.
Is he British? “Artefact”? I don’t know why anyone would trust numbers from China, Russia, or India. They don’t seem to make sense.
Artifact: An object produced or shaped by human craft, especially a tool, weapon, or ornament of archaeological or historical interest.
Artefact: An artificial product or effect observed in a natural system, especially one introduced by the technology used in scientific investigation or by experimental error.
Yeah every country is lying to the downside; it’s just who a matter of who are the best and worst culprits.
In an effort to get to 1,000. Quick and easy answers. In the United States, what is the ratio of female strip clubs to male strip clubs?
100-1?
Google has failed to yield easy results
Poll: how many strip clubs have you been to in your life?
I can remember three. One was in Portland, actually. It wasn’t Dolphin Boy’s…wish I could remember the name. It was okay. My lady wanted to go to one to see what they were all about, so we went. The only other time was in NYC back in the day as teens. Edit: oh wait, I remember a 3rd in Montreal. That one was awesome. The girls were so cute and classy, as were the waitresses. Needed a cold shower that night!
2
How did it go? Deets!
Got pulled there by friends both times. Found it uncomfortable and weird haha. One was in Vegas and the other was in Salem (aghh gawd)
Salem? Oregon? Oh man, how many cigarette burns, melting tattoos and c section scars did you see? J/k
I have been to many, mostly to drink but some to support the feminist movement. I saw a girl who i had 2 classes with while at OSU dancing at a little club on south commercial st. in salem one time.
It was weird not because we knew each other and it was her secret. But because she was totally fine with talking to me and a couple friends after her dance, completely topless. She had a crazy amount of self confidence.
Went to one years ago on Mcloughlin Blvd outside of Portland. I believe it was called the acropolis. One in Salem for a bachelor party. Scary. And at a place called froggys in, if I remember right, Longmont Colorado. There was a red head there….. she still haunts my dreams.
@BB – It was fairly rough but not the worst view I have seen haha. Mostly they all just looked completely miserable and on mild amounts of drugs.
At least a dozen but that was 3 different bachelor parties. Been twice outside of bachelor parties I think.
Been to several in PDX, quite a few years ago. Bachelor parties mostly, a few for drinks with friends and once to see a friend’s band perform. You’re challenging my memory. I’ll see if I can list the places:
Club205(Best overall talent)
One across the street from Club 205
Acropolis(Close 2nd)
Dolphin(original spot in Milwaukie)
Dillingers(worst)
Safari(for the concert)
Devil’s Point
Devil’s Lounge
There’s was this old shack of a club on 82nd back in the day called the Beaver’s Inn(or something like that)
I never visited, but friends told me they had a one armed stripper there. Anybody remember that, or it that just urban myth?
The acropolis is the one with the 5 dollar steaks isn’t it? If so, I’ve been there.
I’m not sure what they cost, but they’re known for it. The owner I think is a cattle farmer in Bend, which is where he supplies the steaks from. My buddies used to go there for breakfast after their graveyard shifts. I live fairly close to that place. It’s an institution. I think Marilyn Manson mentioned it as his favorite strip club in the country in some interview.
Never heard of a 1 armed stripper.
What started out as a productive work day has turned into me looking up reddit threads on 1 armed strippers who danced at the Beaver Inn in the 90’s. There’s mention of her here.
Wanna thought Biden talk was gonna get us to 1000 posts. But nudie bars for the win.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Portland/comments/8a34pi/comment/dwvjyo7?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comment_timestamp
NB is right. just doin my best to move the bar.
Beaver’s Inc. I think. It was between King Road and Johnson Creek Boulevard. I did hear the rumors of the one-armed stripper, but I don’t remember seeing her there. Myself and a few other smartass PSU college buddies would do the SE Portland tour on the weekends to blow off some steam. I remember one called “Poor Haus” on 82nd with a Barbra Streisand look alike! You’re right, Club 205 was in a class by itself if the word class can be used in this conversation!
1, with the wife, we were both bored as hell
Went to Union Jack’s on Burnside, with my bro and friend. We were talking at the bar with the strippers doing their thing when out of nowhere someone threw a couple bucks in quarters — fuckin’ raining quarters on the poor girl up riding the pole directly on stage. LOL essentially when the record stops type moment. Everybody was quiet just looking around trying to figure what the hell happened. Within a moment later, she ended with a back flip dismount off the pole and ran off stage — one lonely quarter still spinning and clanging on the stage floor. One of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. Poor girl!
This one should get rambunctious.
I have a pet theory that the United States obsession with winning and losing has destroyed our political system from the start. Our country was found on a winner takes all war and the idea that we must win has infected our systems ever since. The best case is parties and voting. American voters generally do not vote based on party or idealogy, they vote based on electability (who they think can win). Within the Democratic party Bernie’s policy list polls in the 60-80% range but we selected Biden cause we didn’t want to lose. The Republicans picked Trump because he galvanized voters despite his policy and idealogy being contradictory to past platforms. We have problems with voter turnout because people think their vote do ant matter if they don’t vote for the winner. We only have two parties because, “it’s impossible for a third party to win”.
Parliamentary systems.tend to have many parties and people can vote based on policy and idealogy alignment instead of picking between two turds. They win by getting momentum and compromise for their platform not by always holding power.
Final stance. The US would be better off if citizens voted based on their values and stopped worrying about wins.
“The US would be better off if citizens voted based on their values and stopped worrying about wins.” The political system will never work to that end as it presently exists. We have never-ending political campaigning, it’s about money (when candidates announce, the first thing you read is how much money they have, compared to . . . ), national party organizations are corporate, if not corrupt. An aside? Why do we elect in November but not replace until January?
Yup campaign finance reform is a top 5 issue to fix. I have no idea why we do elect in November and wait two months. All I can think of is it’s an archaic tradition giving time for votes to be tallied and people to travel.
The last time I had real hope for our gov’t was during 9-11. They all walked out to the capital steps, put their arms around each other and sang. Gave me hope we could work together for the good of the country….Its been all downhill ever since.
Have you guys noticed all the “We’re in it together” tug-at-the-heartstrings commercials being aired? Those are also insufferable.
I enjoy the ones making fun of Uber rich people saying that shit lol
You forgot about choirs singing “Lean on Me.”
Lean on me…..but stay 6 ft away.
I’m glad I’m not the only one to feel that way. Insufferable is the right word. Feel good bullshit from bored celebrities and panic porn from the media.
I have, and it makes me grind my teeth. Glad I am not the only one.
Seeing U if Iowa is planning for football practice June 1.
“The ones that are tough enough to understand that all those guys are pretty good players, the ones that are excited to play with those type of people, are the ones we want,” coach Tinkle said. “It’s certainly closed some doors, but we wouldn’t have traded anything. We love having all three of those guys.”
Interesting quote there from Tinkle regarding the coaches kids. Sounds like he expects Ethan to be back.
That’s the first place I’ve seen it acknowledged that having so many coaches’ kids hurt recruiting. At least Wayne gets it.
For Angry:
https://twitter.com/TradeLikeElvis/status/1256241673425817602?s=19
Haha, already saw that and responded to him a few hours ago. The thing is, he’s right. SEC is going to be all over him again.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1256249097146621952
Markets down 3% right now and actually reacting to negative earnings…or is it just Trump’s renewed interest in the trade war?
Think the post stimulus/ fed juicing rally is waning a bit, reality setting in that this will be a long slog.
Agree, and the fact that retail bought that last rally has the pros shorting them now.
Hodgins analysis by bills fan site.
https://www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2020/5/1/21240647/nfl-2020-draft-college-film-analysis-isaiah-hodgins-buffalo-bills-oregon-state
Pretty good analysis
Yeah angry you’re going to have to step up your commit analysis game. Lol
That would take a month per guy. Jeez.
Word is 4 star crystal ball to Beavs? Said no politics so I think I can come back.
Is it Collins?
Hopefully he’s better than the last Collins we had…
State Champ in high hurdles
What questions would you ask the coaches? Ones that you think will actually get answered. Not asking Scott Barnes why he sucks.
https://osubeavers.com/news/2020/4/28/football-virtual-beaver-state-tour-coming-to-you.aspx
I think I’d ask each coach how this pandemic will change their approach to recruiting going forward? More video chats vs text/social media?
Why did you go for it in fourth!
In reality I would ask how players are staying in game shape
He’s a little small, but he’s a workhorse. Saw him in person last year before I really knew who he was. He stood out for sure. Most impressive part of his game to me was his acceleration while turning the corner. Think James Rodgers on a fly sweep. Just outpaces everybody on the field and has a high top speed.
Hope we can land a top in state guy.
It helps that Oregon cant recruit him, because they would be.
They’ve talked about it on zoom with the coaches on the recruiting sites. Pretty much have been doing what you said. Social media, zoom, phone conversations. The strength coach has contacted the players to see what is available to them and design a workout for them. Let’s hope Whitley doesn’t slack he needs to be in good shape this season.
Sounds like Beavs are frontrunner for Damir Collins
Who is that?
Son of Tom
Oh, #2 all purpose back from Jefferson. Cal, ASU, Maryland, OSU are his top 4.
After watching WA governor Inslee outline a phased approach to reopening WA, it seems to me the college football season will delayed and I’m guessing we’re not likely to finish any season that is started. Each state will ease restrictions at various levels and timelines. I believe that we’ll see many states re-enacting restrictions over the next 9 months as COVID flares up in various regions especially in those regions that are reopening now despite seeing an increase in cases. It will be difficult for many universities to remain open and for football teams to practice and I can’t imagine fans being allowed to attend many games either. Hope I’m wrong but bet I’m right.
Sec commh said conferences were not tied to each other so each could run their own season. Obviously non conf game would be gone in that scenario.
I want the spring season. Full attendance. Instead of sitting practice, it’s just a season. Of course that will screw up the NFL but who cares.
Just saw ESPN put out their preseason rankings. They have the quacks at # 8. I just don’t see it. Uncle Phil’s influence at work…
Are the Bevs ranked?
Who will be the dcks qb?
Tyler Shough or the grad transfer from Boston College Anthony Brown is what is being reported.
Tyler Shough. Very capable. Who will be the Bevs QB1? Hope its not the guy that was throwing balls in the dirt 10 yards in front of Hodgins during the CW.
One site had UW #24, USC, Cal, and one other PAC team somewhere around 20-25, and UO @ #4 despite lack of proven QB.
Who cares about pre season rankings? Only matters where you finish.
If it weren’t for Trevor Lawrence there’d be a decent chance of the Ducks having number 1 picks in back to back drafts. I don’t follow them enough to know about the rest of the talent but I assume they are decent at a minimum. And for all the tools Herbert has he is not totally irreplaceable.
WBB: Corosdale granted reshirt, seemed a slam dunk since she only played in 2 games last season. Will be a RS Jr.
As a soph, she started 33 of 34 games and played all 125 minutes of Oregon State’s NCAA tournament run that year. She could be a steadying influence, especially if Kennedy Brown isn’t 100%.
Kim Jong Un alive and well. Shows you how little the rest of the world knows about NK. They probably already have Nukes and we wouldn’t have a clue (no offense to NukeBeav).
They have tested them underground. We know they have them, it the delivery system that they are trying to get on par with the big boys.
100 posts to go.
They do have nukes, crappy ones with uncertain deliver systems. It’s one of the most watched places on earth. The detector satelites they have pretty much ensures they can’t move a warhead without 5 ft of rock as shielding.
One for Fanno…
Sabrina will be whining on Dish Network tonight at midnight, I guess she still has ‘unfinished business’
You’re so obsessed. Do you follow everything she does when she does it?
Talk about obsessed. Why are you here again?
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Hodgins notes:
I’m surprised how low he was ranked on the receiver draft board. Maybe I’m biased but when I watched the Beavs or college football in general, I didn’t see many more dominant receivers. And it’s not like he was just a possession receiver that won’t translate well to the NFL. I know the knock is the 40 time.
The 40 time. I’d be curious to have current NFL players run the 40 even after 1 or 2 years in the league. Do those top burner guys still run 4.3, 4.4 and does it really matter all that much? I get that it’ll help with the return game and breaking open some long plays. But looking around the NFL, each team may have 1 really fast receiver that starts. The rest are guys that can consistently catch the ball and run good routes. Is the kid from the Huskies that ran a 4.3 even on the Bengals anymore? Hodgins has height, footwork and great hands. I know I may be preaching to the choir here but I just don’t get how a guy gets pushed down the board due to a 40 time. It’s like measuring someones health based on how skinny they are.
That Ross kid from UW w/Bengals sounds like he’s on the bubble.
A digest of comments from Dr. Joseph Lapado, UCLA Geffen School of Medicine:
starting premise: “Covid-19 -induced terror has hijacked the nation.”
“Epidemiologic studies of the population prevalence of novel coronavirus antibodies are pointing to much higher rates of infection than previously thought–with the corollary that mortality is much lower. Surely, as fear loosens its grip–and there is evidence that this is happening–these overreaches, and those still to come, will reveal themselves as more about the exercise of power than about public health.”
“Dismissing sincere concerns about civil liberties may have implications for effective coordination of future pandemic efforts. Social-distancing measures are good at slowing disease outbreaks, and the wisest course is to implement them in the least burdensome and most sustainable way possible. Unfortunately, many states have already veered sharply from this path. The coming second phase of the pandemic response affords leaders a chance to demonstrate wisdom and restraint.”
translations–
“over-reach”–Whitmer, the governor in Maine, Newson closing the beaches.
“dismissing sincere concerns”– by seeing every end the lock-down demonstration as an alt-right militia meeting.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/far-right-coronavirus-protests-restrictions
Phone is starting to cry Everytime I open this one.
Roll call to 1000!
Here
Here now, but planing to attend my local Devos/Koch funded alt-right fear rally today to give me the freedom to leave my house. Except last I checked, I’ve been free to leave my house, so I’m not totally sure what I’m supposed to be upset about?
I think I’m supposed to be upset about leftist terrorists media groups using fear to keep me home. Now I’m scared. Think I need a drink.
Don’t forget your AR15. FREEDOM!!!!
It’s legal, so why not? I may carry 4 of them to this peaceful protest, just cause I can.
Planning to to head down to JoAnne Fabric first(love that place!) to make myself a catchy sign for the TV cameras. Hope they’re still open. Wish me luck!
Make sure the catchy sign has some Nazi propaganda, you want to make sure you get some airtime.
Make sure you select a color that coordinates with your red MAGA hat. I know you’re probably partial to orange, but that would not make a nice contrast.
Someone doesn’t have Pettibone’s fashion sense
https://imgur.com/a/dumsVFl
Does DeVos really care about Salem though? I mean what hearts and minds is that group going to sway in Oregon?
It’s the “If It’s Brown, Flush it Down!” movement
Is that a sub-set of the “Too much Trump?… take a dump” movement?
OJ in the house…lock up your wives, and favorite waiters.
Phased reopening for OSU to start in about 30 days
https://247sports.com/college/oregon-state/Article/Oregon-State-University-re-opening-COVID-19-146720379/
Oh and something that you all don’t know about me? I’ve spent time in the most northern most town in the US but haven’t lived in AK for over 20 years.
Just one more month of Ed Ray, right? I think he’s gone in June.
F King right, Ray leaves end of June
1,000th commenter wins a pack of Mike Riley chewing gum.
I’d prefer Doublemint Twins
I’ll just chew some tar.
Did you ever see Mann v Ford? Those poor kids would chew dried paint sludge
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Q-Gum-Cat-Butts/dp/B002C1V4KA
Home remodel question.
We’re looking to remodel our basement space. It’s about 1000 sqft, half of which is finished while the other half is a large dry concrete box, with utilities and storage space.
The unfinished portion currently has our oversized, noisy gas furnace. What I’d be interested in is reclaiming some of that space. I don’t know much about heat pumps, but curious if anybody here has one? Do you find it to be an economical option compared to a gas furnace? The idea of having a heat pump unit outside the house, to save some space inside the house is desirable to me, but I really know nothing about them. Do they still require a separate fan unit inside the house to force the air? Or does the heat pump handle all of that?
I don’t know about heat pumps, but we put in a high efficiency furnace, and it’s awesome.
Our old furnace was very noisy. This one is quiet. When it turns on it hums like a jet engine and is actually pleasant.
Depending on the number of rooms and size of the house mini splits can be really great. To my understanding there is still fans for the forced air system on a heat pump. They are not always design to go outside either.
mini splits are awesome. And are usually more efficient since you don’t have to heat/cool rooms you’re not occupying.
It’s a 2000sqft 1950’s ranch. Basically a 2 floor rectangle.
One of my hopes with the remodel is to reclaim more of the space currently occupied by our furnace and also make the heating system quieter in the process. I’ve read they can install furnaces in the attic space too, but that doesnt sound as desirable as having the unit moved outdoors, if possible.
Kids are getting older so we need at least 1 more bedroom, plus I wouldn’t mind a dedicated office space that’s not in our media room.
Stimulus bux going to good use
Ugh, how much stock does politico own in Gilead?
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/05/02/donald-trump-coronavirus-remdesivir-229765
https://youtu.be/QwXM821iBrI
Go to about the 13 minute mark. This is Angry’s guy Chris Martenson. He outlines who is on the NIH panel that will be making treatment guidelines and their conflict (potential?) and relationship to Gilead….
I’m glad people are using him as a source over the crap headlines and bad science…
It is sad a cure or treatment, no matter how effective or ineffective gets such a political treatment.
Thats what bothers me the most. Trump fast tracks hydro, and the world tries to find everything they can that is wrong with it just because its trump. And worst they make it sound like its never gone thru a trial so it some sort of voodoo. Its a thoroughly tested drug that we know what the side effects are we just on exactly sure of its effectiveness yet.
On the other hand gileads drug is just starting testing. Its a complete unknown, and as the youtube video above states we should be cautious of who and why its getting pushed so hard. but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be tried.
Live feed from the pro-disease rally in Salem. Sucks when it rains on your demonstration and nobody is around to see it.
Weather permitting, there will be performances from Anti-vax Mothers of Merica(AMOM) at Noon. Diseases for Oregon United Can Help Everybody StaySafe(DOUCHES) at 12:30 and after that we’ll probably get tired and drive up and order In-n-Out for lunch and call it a day.
Remember people, no gloves and no masks, causes it conflicts with the message(although I’ll wear a mask, just to be safe, but you shouldn’t) and bring your guns, cause somehow asking people to practice social distancing is an infringement on our gun rights!
You know, fuck it. Let’s just sit in our cars/trucks and honk horns. It’s drier, louder, and nobody can breathe their fake ‘rona flu on you.
https://youtu.be/pIttQYmhaGY
You can tell very few of those people are from Oregon, too many umbrellas
Too funny, I had the same thought
Re: Damir Collins, you’d think the long history of successful/future pro RB’s would have some bearing on a kid’s decision. Can anyone name the last OSU starting RB who didn’t make the NFL or an All-conference team?
Right but did they play? Steven Jackson did and was “successful”. Quizz the Whizz played but wasn’t terribly impactful in the grand scheme of things. Nall hasn’t played. Pierce won’t play. Did I miss someone?
That was important.
Reading is difficult with a UO degree?
“Can anyone name the last OSU starting RB who didn’t make the NFL or an All-conference team?”
You seem to have trouble defining successful. Seems to me, Steven Jackson was pretty successful as success goes. The others…. not really. It was also suggested that there is a “long history”. Very debatable. He makes it sound like osu is RB U. Which they are not. Even Oregon has had more RB success at the NFL level.
Yeah, I hear LaMike makes a good burger, urp
Ok, Fanno. I’ll take the bait on this one……..I’m thinking the 18th leading rusher in NFL History is probably just a little more than “pretty successful as success goes”. I’m not seeing any Quack running backs in the top 20, are you? Also, here’s another factoid regarding SJ….the only, I repeat only back in NFL history to have 1400 yards rushing and 800 yards receiving in a single season. I would say that’s damn successful, as far as success goes.
You’re splitting semantic hairs Mckalk. I called Jackson successful. I thought he was an awesome RB.
Somebody say, “PCP”?
Roy? Why the name change again?
Quizz was successful. Terron ward was a backup and played some. Tim cook was our third string and played for awhile. Pierce is going to play. Ball just needs the right system and a chance he’s averaging like 5 yds a carry. Bernard played in the CFL for awhile. That’s every running back from the last decade so I’d say that’s pretty good considering there are only 32 starting jobs in the NFL. You don’t have to start to make a lot of money.
Still waiting for someone to answer the trivia question…
Stormy?
Speaking of Stormy, what happened to scnell? Journalism is dying, sports are in hibernation and most importantly, buffets are shut down! I kid I kid, sort of.
I’d imagine having buffet withdrawals.
Who was after Jackson but before whizz? I thought last name started with a p. Seemed like he was tall/ran upright and not as thick as a typical running back. Maybe started one year until someone better came in.
Google Answer: Clinton Polk. Was never really a featured back. Amazing to me Ward made it a few years in the nfl.
Ding ding ding. Storm Woods was preseason all-conference, but never actually put together an all-conference season.
How about the last OSU team without a future NFL back on the roster?
Ken Simonton’s 3rd season? Would that be the Fiesta Bowl season?
Yeah, OSU asks their RBs to do everything any NFL team would ask. Great school to prep a guy for the next level. Not only that but a lot of schools are getting away from the more feature back type offense. Though a case could probably be made that top guys should be saving their bodies for the NFL some.
9 TDs in 8 years for an average of 3.8 YPC is “successful”? Come on man, that’s a huge stretch. Take the beaver goggles off
If you spend 8 years in the league then i would consider that successful. All pro successful? Nope. But he made damn good money @just under 8 million. That by any definition is success. Dont be a knucklehead.
Average length of NFL career is 3.3 years. Not a math wizard here but im sure 8 is more than 3.
Fanno give me your successful duck rb list of recent years. You said quacks have more than Beavs so let’s see your definition of success. Barner (I’d say success but by your standards he sucks) James? Blount? Okay one there. Who else?
Sorry bevheads….I thought we were talking about being good at sports. You’re talking about longevity and sitting on a bench collecting a paycheck. My mistake I guess. Doctors collect money just by being a doctor. Doesn’t make them a good one.
Krol- Blount has 3 SB rings. 51 TDs etc…. Stewart played one more year than Quizz the Whizz I believe and had 56 TDs. All-Pro etc… Sounds more successful to me. I didn’t say Quizz sucked but when I think of “successful” running backs, he doesn’t make many people’s lists. Except of course biased bev fans. Sorry, those are just facts. I know its hard to hear
Damir would have to beef up to around 200pds to make it to the pros. Few if any pro backs play under 200 pounds.
Pretty sure most people gain 15 pounds in college let alone an athlete with a nutrition program and unlimited meal card.
I’m just hoping we get him.
Talk to Flemings about gaining some weight. Also height.
It’s probably difficult to run in platform shoes, just ask flammo
Why does he need to gain height? Now he’s is too short to be a running sick in the nfl too?? Good grief. Ray Rice: 5’9” 195 pounds when he played for the ravens. I can already tell Collins and champ are not built the same.
Ray rice was maybe 5’8 and like 210.
Noticed yesterday that former Beav Devin Chappell has been added to the OSU staff as a recruiting assistant
That’s cool. I was always hoping he would find a roster spot in the pros. He was pretty much the only playmaker on a bad defense. He caused a lot of forced fumbles if I remember correctly.
Guys…oh forget it, nevermind.
Watched Henry Buckles film. Definitely a guard at the college level. Low three star but with lots of room to improve. Potential to be high three star his senior year.
8 years is the key. Getting paid millions over that time is successful. Quit hating. I like that you took the time to look that up. Get a life!
Was meant for the genius up above.
Good job moving the goal posts to fit your narrative though. Thumbs up!
Okay I see your list above. I don’t mind facts. Stewart, forgot about him. So two and two? Jackson was way better than Blount but doesn’t have the rings. You said quacks have more. You better come up with some more names…If you were a kid hoping to play in the nfl some days, would you feel successful if you were a pro for 8 years? Even 5 years? Made it past the avg career of a rb. Does it surprise you with with all the highly recruited guys that more aren’t successful from Eugene?
Again with the reading comprehension issues. I said they have had “more RB success” did I not? I think All-Pro nods, TDs and SB rings signify more success.
This is exactly what I said above.Verbatim “Even Oregon has had more RB success at the NFL level.“
In answer to your question, there are and have been many more Ducks in the NFL than Bevs and with much more success. That’s not even an argument
If you come back to this thread, you said rb position. Come on man, stop changing the argument!!!
That’s not what I said above. Go re-read my post. Again
So you’re defining success as getting paid and not in actual skill level. I thought the post was about football success.
“8 years is the key” Must have some skill to hang around that long. Does your wife of 18 years call that selective reading? Come on now Fanno. Just admit your love for the Beavs already!
Sitting on the bench is a skill? Since when. Players want to play player. Never said he wasn’t skilled. I argued his being “successful”. Selective reading indeed. And you’re a teacher? Yikes
Don’t hate the player hate the game son. Good memory though. I’m glad to be such an important person in your life. It’s not like I teach at a college. I’m only expected to have the knowledge level of younger kids.
Don’t sell yourself short man. Are you smarter than a 5th grader?
Actually Krol, I have coached some of your beavers before. Good kids.
You’re just pissed because you missed Sabrina whining last night…too busy?
Where’s the list Fanno? I’m seriously very curious because I don’t follow the nfl that much especially the former duck players. Give me the bench riders, practice squad guys. Any rb that has been on a team. Then we can compare the successful ones.
See above
Countdown begins…
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You guys really let Fanno be the 1,000th post? Lame.
Yay for me !!! Do I win something? Other than your hearts?
You could ban him. That would bring us back down to 700 or so posts
You don’t count too well
Nah, he won fair and square.
A Duck beats us in our own house again. Disappointing…but so very Beav.
New thread up
You’re a stand up guy Angry
And you’re not….you’re a down on your knees guy!
Smarmi- It appears you have some issues. Was your cousin an up or down guy for you?