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        LOL….kid….LOL. 24-7 Sally, 24-7 and that’s why you’re in a Beaver Blog. You’re so obsessed with everything Beavers. My guess is you were probably banned from a Duck blog so you slithered on over to the Beaver blog. Still living in the fantasy world that Egonescu, who happens to keep track of all of her stats during a game, and the Ducks would have won the national championship. Just like the Ducks football team, very, very good, but never the best. Uncle Phillip is running out of time for that elusive title and it doesn’t appear that he’ll get one in his lifetime. Did you get the posters and jerseys of Sabrina and Justin so you can proudly display them above your bed? You probably order the Justin Herbert Bobble Head too…..LOL. I’m also guessing your room in your parent’s basement is filled with Duck stuff too from floor to ceiling and your 1980 Chrysler K car is decked out with Duck stuff too. Go Ducks go!!!! Quack, quack, quack….

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            You’re jealous of a 22 year old girl who makes more money than you with one signature than you have made your whole life. She made your team look silly. Now she is doing the same to you. Lol

          • Fanno, and you’re obsessed with a 22 year old young lady and probably slobbering all over your new recently purchased Egonescu jersey. Note that I referred to her as a young lady and you referred to her as a girl, something that a knuckle dragger like yourself which do, which is an indication of your condescending perspective regarding 22 year old young ladies in general. Show some class for once in your life if it’s at all possible.

  1. You guys let Fanno. a Duck, get the first 1,000 post in AB history.

    The phrase “quality vs quantity” comes to mind.

  2. The answer to the previous trivia question…2007. The Yvenson Bernard era featured no future NFL backs. Prior to him, you have to go back to before Ken Simonton’s time. Many people forget Ken got some time with the Bills after being NFL Europe POY.

  3. New trivia question:

    Name the last two OSU starting QB’s to finish their career at OSU and not play in the NFL.

        • I was thinking Moevao because Vaz only started due to injury.

          Garrettson was the most recent. It’s hard to believe there was a time he was our clear-cut starter. Yikes.

          • We may have to look back further then. Didn’t Moevao start due to injury too? Thought he was Canfield’s backup. But maybe there was a season where he was the clear cut starter and Canfield was gone? I just don’t remember the roster makeup when Lyle was playing but pretty sure they were the same class, and Canfield did have NFL experience after OSU.

          • Moevao is moving up in the coaching world. He joined Ed McCaffery’s staff at Northern Colorado this year after several years at Lewis and Clark. Nice kid, hard worker.

          • Northern CO is like twenty minutes from me.
            I should go check out a game. Didn’t realize those guys were out there.
            When Moevao was our QB I said he’d make a great coach many times.
            https://angrybeavs.com/recruiting/868

            I’m not sure who Haywood is. If I meant Heyward, I was wrong — he’s solid, too.

          • Moevao was a GA here for a few seasons. Was it under GA?

            If we’re disqualifying him (he also spent some time in an NFL camp, albeit minimal,) the last one before that was JS.

            Before JS, didn’t Tim Alexander spend some time in the NFL as a WR?

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    If Fanno has any staying power he may one day challenge Jack for the Angry Beavs all-time downvote record, which currently stands at 22,314.

  5. Yet, the Beavers have curb stomped your Duckies the last what 4 out of the last 5 games. That’s still grinding on you isn’t Opie?

  6. Damn a 1000 posts!! Glad his make believe wife is getting so much attention!! Husband of the year, congrats fanno!

  7. Fanno, do you have some kind of bet going that you can take down this group or something (bad bet)? Seriously, I can’t figure out why you would spend so much time here if you’re truly a Duckie. I’m sure there are plenty of other Duckies who would love to hear from you. But wait…could it be that you’re actually a rabid Beaver fan and you’re trying to get this group fired up? Or on the other hand, are you just a troll sitting in front of screen chortling whenever you get to fire off another incredibly clever rocket at the Beavs?

    • This is his outlet. He’s got some pent up frustrations that he needs to get out and apparently insulting fans of the rival team makes him feel all warm and fuzzy. Not all Duck fans are like him, but he’s certainly not helping the reputation.

      • I’m not frustrated in the slightest. Sounds like you are however. All beav fans are alike. Can dish it out, but can’t take it. Go figure

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    Angry, WE didn’t let him get the 1000th post on here. You did by allowing him to post his incessant bullshit.

    • I tried to warn everyone that this guy is toxic and that’s part of the reason they shutdown the comments section in HackLive. The moderators had to spend to much time babysitting his posts.

      • He’s not very smart tho so he’s fun to mess with. It’s like a 3rd grader talking shit. He can’t keep pace and changes subjects. He projects things like being depressed, and having no life on others while he ironically spends all of his time on a rival teams sports blog when there aren’t even sports.

        • Lmao….you insecure little turd helmets are spending your Sunday posting to me. Unbelievable. And you wonder why people call you little brother? There is no need to wonder. What a bunch of toddlers

      • The reason they shut down the section on olive was because of people like you, fanatic66 and Orange Army. Do you ever get tired of being a dbag hypocrite swammi ? You are such a POS and have been for 7 years on olive. Congrats to you for shutting Olive down. Take a hard look in the mirror little buddy. Then see a counselor. Lol

  9. Maybe this isn’t news because I don’t follow OSU baseball closely, but the most recent mock MLB draft I saw had Abel as the first HS prospect taken.

    It also said HS prospects will likely slide because they haven’t played a competitive game in a while and college players will be seen as a safer pick.

    • One possible upside for MLB teams picking high school pitchers is that they will have less wear on their arms. So that’s not great for Abel making it to school.

      Opposite for hitters. Should see most of those guys come to school. Don’t think MLB teams will risk a high pick on guys who haven’t played in a year.

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    It’s you guys who seem to be obsessed with him/her! Why are you addressing/responding to the posts? Ignore him.

    • I learned this weekend don’t ask your wife when is Mother’s Day. Anyways, reminder: Mother’s Day is next Sunday. You’re welcome.

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    I never thought I would say this, but the vapidity of this thread (by and large, a nod of exception to OOB) and the end of the last one makes me miss Youngorst. Please come back. Seriously.

    There isn’t anything in the sports world to talk about, but since critical analysis is still, nominally, the point of this blog, I offer this excerpt from the weekend edition of the Wall Street Journal. It’s an echo from the previous thread when I was asked to validate my comment about Comey and his 7th floor henchmen; dirty cops all:

    “Handwritten notes from former FBI counterintelligence head Bill Priestap suggest the purpose was to trap Mr. Flynn in a lie. Mr. Priestap writes: ‘what is our goal? Truth/Admission, or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?’ A separate document shows the FBI had already decided there was nothing to allegations of Flynn-Russia collusion. So why keep pursuing him on absurd Logan Act claims?

    A newly release email from former FBI lawyer Lisa Page shows that bureau officials debated how to skirt its policy of providing Mr. Flynn a formal warning against lying to agents. Former FBI Director Jim Comey bragged in 2018 that he sent agents who told Mr. Flynn he needn’t consult the White House counsel.

    Other documents show the FBI deliberately chose to provide no warning to Mr. Flynn and hid from him that the interview was being conducted in an investigatory context–allowing him to think he was merely chatting with fellow government officials. The FBI, in other words, looks to have set up a situation designed to coax Mr. Flynn into saying something it could later claim was at odds with the transcript.”

    In other words, a set up. Prosecutorial misconduct. Paralleled by Flynn’s first defense team, which seems to have been as competent as Luke Heimlich’s.

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      What I don’t understand is why you’d believe any of that since it’s being reported and printed by the fake news.

        • I don’t view any news as fake, so I’m being snarky. People want to pick and choose which news is real and which is fake, and it basically comes down to whether they agree with it. No news is “fake” per se, but it all has bias, since humans are prone to bias. Sometimes it can have an agenda, too. Wall St Journal is a Wall St propaganda machine. I mean you saw what they did with the Stanford Study a few weeks ago. So yeah, while they aren’t “fake”, they do have a bias toward propping up financial assets via jawboning in their articles. Said another way, I don’t think I’ve ever read an article in the WSJ that said it was a bad time to own equities, homes, etc.

          • I tend to agree. Bias is ingrained, and one of the values of critical thinking, this site’s avowed goal, is being able to discern it. One of the great modern misunderstandings is a confusion between bias and prejudice. Everyone is biased. The goal is not to think and act prejudicially. If you note, Angry, though I often cite the WSJ, it’s not their financial perspective, but their editorial coverage of political issues.

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      Vapidity? Well said, wanna. (and not just due to the appreciated nod!)

      Presenting FACTS as they come to light should only further the discussion……if the discussion is actually to discover and highlight the truth.

      Perhaps the truth will only come to light if Gen. Flynn has a legal team strong enough to go against the permanent intelligence bureaucracy. A tall order.

      Anyway, I’d just about decided to avoid ab for a while (that vapidity thing), glad I checked back in.

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        Thanks, OOB. I take a few days off at a time myself. Just can’t take the mindlessness and inability to critically engage. This blog is dangerously close to becoming another victim of Covid-19. Lots of great contributors have already left.

        • No it’s not. People are just saying things you don’t agree with, and now you’re exaggerating out of frustration. When sports comes back the same commenters will come back. Many just don’t want to talk about non-sports stuff. Many still lurk. I have the metrics; you don’t. It’s never been busier.

          I don’t like all the political stuff. But for the most part it’s been civil and fine…and it’s something to talk about. I liked getting to know things about readers in that last thread. Some cool stories. Also appreciated the discussion on kids, gardening, etc. So there’s some good stuff going on, too.

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      Wannabeav doesn’t understand what the legal parameters are around fbi questioning people. Also, anything about Flynn that leaves out the words Turkey and Gulen is gaslighting garbage. That dude is one of the more corrupt dirtballs on Team Trump, and the right wants to make him a hero.

      • I didn’t follow that super close, but Flynn always struck me as a huge POS. I’m sure Comey is, too. You have to be a POS to get into those positions.

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        Bendbeav: Flynn may be disreputable, or as Angry says, a POS, but he’s still deserving of due process. Not only did the FBI engage in entrapment, they phonied up the document used to indict him. As Thomas Baker, former FBI agent and attorney reports in today’s WSJ: “after Mr. Strzok and Agent Joe Pientka interviewed Mr. Flynn, Mr. Strozk heavily edited Pientka’s FD-302 [interview form] to the point that he told [his paramour] Ms. Page he was ‘trying not to completely re-write’ it. Even more shocking, Ms. Page, an FBI attorney who wasn’t an agent and wasn’t at the interview, provided edits.”

        “Even worse, the FD-302 that was eventually provided to the court wasn’t that of the agents’ interview of Mr. Flynn. It was instead a FD-302 interview of Mr. Strozk, conducted months later.”

        Anyone who doesn’t find this pattern troubling isn’t paying attention.

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    Pandemic in the world, and our country governed by an inept leader. Yet 80% of this thread is about comparing dick size.
    Not AB’s finest hour.

  13. We may get some 2021 QB news during this week.
    I can’t say who or when, but if it happens, it will be a development I have been hoping for since the last season ended.

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    I thought this was a reasonable and fair take.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/underlying-conditions/610261/?fbclid=IwAR1v-sU6m9rq2ZTKfIEm0pKE207gFffD07aO90kIKiHIXOsgdx93fohljac

    Everyone seems to think things were great, then Corona came and ruined it all, but I think the idea it exposed underlying problems is more accurate. Still no mention of the FED except to praise them…when will people learn? Need more mention of how this is a plunderer Nation, too, where people just want to get their take and get out – “financial economy” especially problematic there.

    • Caveat – I haven’t read your link yet, but RE: the financial economy, it seems like we’re in trouble when TRANSACTIONS are valued more highly than the outcome the transaction is supposed to produce. This was brought into specific relief in the film “The Big Short,” with all of the bad lending practices; do whatever it takes to produce lots of transactions so that a few profit from the transactions.

    • First off, what a horribly partisan, narrow-sighted article (of course, it’s The Atlantic). And it didn’t even take until halfway through for Godwin’s Law to come up. He acts like recent American history began in 2016 and falsely attributes all of the issues he brings up (many of which are valid) to Trump.

      From an economic standpoint, in very simplistic terms, it’s all about debt. The reason things are falling apart is because so many households and businesses are losing the ability to pay off their debts. Too much debt, not enough savings.

      The game before (since 2009) was to keep growing debt in a “manageable” way, and we were able to do it for a while because the consumer didn’t experience any major shocks. It was only a matter of time before something happened.

      So in a sense, yes, things were great. We just had to ignore the risks and act like they’d never come. Ignorance is bliss.

      I’m glad the media is starting to vocalize that these problems have been around for a while. I’m still waiting for a nationwide dialogue shift around saving and debt. Until that happens, I’ll remain convinced that we aren’t learning our lesson. Heck, the Fed still includes debt repayment in their “savings rate” calculation!

    • Also, to act like the polarization of America is a Trump-era phenomenon is hilarious.

      “Like a wanton boy throwing matches in a parched field, Trump began to immolate what was left of national civic life. He never even pretended to be president of the whole country, but pitted us against one another along lines of race, sex, religion, citizenship, education, region, and—every day of his presidency—political party. His main tool of governance was to lie. A third of the country locked itself in a hall of mirrors that it believed to be reality; a third drove itself mad with the effort to hold on to the idea of knowable truth; and a third gave up even trying.”

      As if pitting us against one another along those lines isn’t the largest section of the DNC playbook. And a third of the country “driving itself mad with the effort to hold on to the idea of knowable truth?” Most Americans claim to be relativists until someone disagrees with them.

      I’m no Trump fan, but this is far from a balanced or measured criticism of American civic life. We would still have the same issues if Hillary had won, you’d just have different people complaining about the administration.

        • Agreed, he is a symptom of the problem not the cause. That being said he has masterfully utilized identity politics for his own benefits. It is like he has trained his whole life for this moment of dog shit politics.

    • I guess my points is: are there facts in this article? Yes. Is there any helpful commentary or insight? Not really. The ultimate conclusion is an obvious non-argument: as a country, we should be united. Duh.

      There’s a lot of really bad logic in that column, too. Kind of like the anti-Chris Martenson, if you will.

      • Yeah. It gets more slanted as it goes. But the general idea that corona exposed the underlying problems is a good one. That’s all I took from it, which I already knew, but if someone doesn’t know that and really believed we were in the “greatest economy ever” and a gilded age 2.0 it’s probably worth reading. No? Can’t fall for the fallacy fallacy, either, where because part of an argument is false the entire thing is false. Extremes exists because each has elements of truth in them amongst the BS.

        Also interesting to me they praise the FED and once again no criticism of the actual cause…

        • I was going to write a response about how surely the average person didn’t actually think everything was good prior to COVID, until I found this data: https://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

          Turns out in February 2020, we were at our highest level of national satisfaction since 2005!

          The funny thing is, as of two weeks ago, the polling data was still okay and comfortably above our average over the last decade.

          Also of note, the low outlier from the last five years was July 2016 when both Trump and Hillary were formalized as candidates.

  15. Hey Angry, I thought I read somewhere in here that your state joined the west coast economic suicide pact but both on NPR this morning and today’s journal I hear/see reports that Governor Polis (a Democrat for those wondering) has lifted much of the lock-down. To quote from the journal (this is for you Pettibone), Polis is one of the guvs “pushing back against the dominant media narrative that any state that reopens too soon is indifferent to the cost in human life. The bitter truth is that recessions also exact terrible costs, including suicides and drug dependency. The best governors understand they must look out for the economy as well as public health.”

    • Yeah last Monday.
      Polis has been a fantastic Governor since he won the midterm and took over in ’19. Very impressive guy. He’s a local born in Boulder who started a tech company that I think he sold for like 300 mil. I think he’s one of the wealthiest public officials right now. Despite that, he has a lot of empathy for the poor and great leadership and very reasonable/rational stances. Really impressive guy. I hope he runs for President one day. He’s also gay and Jewish…so he has a lot if bias against him and still rose above it. I really like the guy, mostly for his rational stances.

  16. Angry – I have enjoyed reading your posts and comments from this site for years. Sometimes it provides insight into beav athletics. Sometimes there is interesting posts on politics, general news, financial investments, etc. Sometimes it provides a place to vent. Sometimes is has allowed me to provide insight for others into issues I have inside knowledge of. I like quality over quantity. IMO Fanno does not provide much value to this site. 1000 posts of crap… reminds me of the O-live comment section. I grew up with a kid that reminds me of Fanno based on his posts. This kid was a duck fan (because his Dad went to UO… he went to PSU but didn’t graduate) and his life has continued to hinge on putting all things ducks on a pedestal and shaming all things OSU related. I’d prefer you ban him to clean up the site but whatever. I have no problem scanning through the crap but don’t see myself visiting the site or contributing as much in the future because it’s kind of lame now.

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      I was hoping you’d come to that conclusion. Thank you. I’d also like to donate a little token of my appreciation for the blog. .how can I do that? #FannybannedLOL!

        • My objective once he slithered over to AngryBeav was to get him banned and I knew that would happen if I kept dogging him. I knew he’d eventually resort to his typical douche bag persona and he did. Mission accomplished and he’s gone thanks to Angry so as long as he doesn’t figure out a way to get in via rear entry, no need to mention the sleaze bag any further.

          • There are ways he can get back in, but they’d take quite a bit of time and effort.
            And it literally takes me about 30 seconds to ban him. So the ratio is in my favor if he wants to try that. I can actually ban him from even seeing the site, not just from posting. He can’t read what we’re saying.

            Thanks again for the donation, buddy.

          • If there is an easy way to completely scrub his posts from the board, you should do it. Just to deny him the satisfaction, and to dissuade copycats.

  17. I’ll look into reinstating the “ignore” button, but I think it began to fail as WordPress issued new releases. Probably some code incompatibility.

  18. It cracked me up how Fannie thought we were all homers. Like he thought telling us something bad about Barnes would be earth shattering, like we all know he is not that great. Or him assuming we are all Mannion homers, I like the guy but honestly think he is probably among the weakest back up QBs in the league. I mean everyone is homers about some things but kind of the point of this site is to try and get away from the straight homer takes.

    • Also funny when he called all the Oregonian Duck writers good and the Beaver ones homers. Guy was nuttier than a squirrel turd.

  19. Back to Beavs athletics:
    Is this any kind of a miss? Gabe Reichle, Zach’s younger brother, seems happy about a walk-on spot in Eugene.
    Doesn’t seem like a big deal unless you think any kind of miss on a relative of a current player is a poor reflection on the program.

    Probably a personal decision based on several factors and not a direct slam at Tink’s program. Still???

    https://www.prephoops.com/2020/04/college-commitment-gabe-reichle-2020-wilsonville-hs/

    • Seems like a non-story. Not an impact prospect, and it’s possible he just wanted to go a different direction than his brother.

    • And Miller-Moore leaving. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do if he played 20 plus minutes a game. Don’t blame him at all for leaving.

      • Agreed. Tinkle, like he’s done with other players, messed with his PT too much. Starts one game, no pt the next. One mistake and he’s pulled. Good luck to the kid.

      • I believe he was encouraged to leave. They are still over scholarship limit after his departure. There’s still 1 more to cut. I think the kids athletic but he wasn’t even a consistent role player on a last year’s team. We’re not going to be good with or without him. Plus some of the new kids they’re bringing in are similar… long, athletic, horrible shooters but with 4 years eligibility

      • How many one and done (and not in a good way) is that for the Beavers? I don’t know if the coaches are just throwing offers out to whomever, but if my kid were interested in the Beavs, I’d tell him to look for a school that is committed to the players they sign. I doubt these players are signing with the “promise” of minimal playing time – and what’s the point of offering players if you aren’t going to play them? Redshirt them if they are that raw.

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      Seems like an odd decision, I would personally rather start at a high academic small college than spend time as a walk-on, but to each his own. I’m more concerned about another player leaving Tinkle’s program. Miller-Moore had a lot of potential and actually looked like a basketball player unlike some of the other Tink’s JC recruits.

  20. Look! I can offer Beaver sports news. Sean Miller Moore has entered the portal.

    And no, Angry, no reason this site has to stoop to dick size comparison. Can’t take the bait on that one.

  21. Was it something helmsley said? Evi Wilson, one of BIG Jim’s daughters, leaves Montana State as a grad transfer. Heading to Boise State for beach volleyball.
    Sister Esti remains loyal, for now, to Chico State volleyball.

    • His completion percentage is insane. 75%??
      Anyone see him play and know if that’s him, level of competition, or his WRs, etc? Seems unusually high. Insane TD to INT ratio, too.

      • He’s the guy I’ve been hoping we’d offer for several months now. He put up pretty incredible numbers last year. The level of ball is low(2A I think?) which has helped keep him under the radar, but watch his film. He can make every throw.
        I actually learned about him from former Beaver TE Quinn Smith who coaches HS ball now and coached against Vidlak. He couldn’t say enough good things about Sam in a conversation we had. I started posting about Vidlak on AB and Beavrecruiting towards the end of last season. Smart/High GPA guy too(over 4.0).
        The bad news, his uncle is a former Duck athlete, so hopefully he doesn’t get an offer from them as we get closer to signing day. Otherwise I think we will be the favorites to land him.

        https://twitter.com/SamVidlak7/status/1257519202237218816?s=19

        • Also, his brother is already on Canham’s radar for baseball recruiting, so another guy worth watching. He’s coming into his soph season, so still a couple years off. But he’s good

        • Any idea why he already committed to Montana? Family connection? I saw that last fall/winter when you first started posting about him.

        • I bet they’ll offer him. Makes a nice story for them (big, National program offers small school Oregon kid) and they take away from OSU.

      • On film his accuracy seems legit. That’s really the thing that stands out about him (even if you watch his sophomore film against better competition). Arm strength is good. Athleticism is decent; he’s not a statue, but he’s very clearly a pocket passer.

        I think the biggest knocks against him will be size and level of competition. They played 3A his junior year, 4A his sophomore year. His numbers went up a lot junior year (60% vs. 75% comp. INT’s waaaay down), but some of that could be attributed to his personal development.

        He fits the mold of successful QB’s who end up with G5 teams after being bypassed by the P5’s: accurate pocket passer without “ideal” size. It’s nice to see Lindgren living up to his claim of caring about accuracy first and foremost.

  22. Vidlak Review
    Positives:
    – compact throwing mechanics
    – accurate
    – gorgeous spiral
    – anticipates receivers
    – mobile enough to extend plays.
    – keeps eyes downfield.
    Negatives:
    – Arm strength is still developing.
    -Has a long follow through that leaves him open to late hit/hurry injuries.
    – Undersized but not badly and can add weight.

    Overall – kid is a baller that I think would drive the program forward. Even if he never started he would push other QBs to excel. Reminds me of Smith honestly.

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      Yeah finally got to watch film. It’s in the hudl link above if anyone wants to watch.
      Dude is LEGIT. He won’t end up only 2-stars, and now I think the Ducks or Washington might try to poach him.

      What stands out most is his understanding of the geometry/physics of each throw. The time/space aspect. Did I see he had a Yale offer? No wonder. It shows in the arc, timing, geometry of his throws.

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        2 star measurables maybe. Given another year for his senior season he could be serious. Add 10 mph to his throw mixed with all his existing skills and he could end up with 10 offers.

        Not too worried about Washington. They have an unhealthy obsession with NFL prototype builds.

        Edit; You’re right angry, this nerd has done some physics.

        • UW already has one commitment from the top QB in WA. Speaking of unhealthy obsessions with measurables, this guy doesn’t quite seem to fit the Duck mold. Maybe I’m wrong.

          • And for comparison, here’s another NW QB, Clay Millen, who supposedly has OSU interest (also a Duck offer). I saw this guy’s video a few months ago, posted it here, and everyone said “we have no chance with him, he’s too good.”

            https://www.hudl.com/video/3/6635991/5d8c1bb402b1250698254ef3

            He looks to me like a bigger, more athletic version of Vidlak. He has similar stats playing at a higher level in WA. No idea how he’s only rated a 3-star.

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            Millen would be a great get. My only gripe with him is that he uses lots of shoulder dip to add velocity to his throw. That adds some time to the mechanics and broad casts. It’s also a great way to get destroyed by a hurry.

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            I’m not really sure what the duck mold at QB is anymore. It used to be about mobility but these days it’s tall light guys with dorky smiles.

          • For the record, the most recent article I can find on Millen says Arizona and OSU are his top two. He has an Oregon offer, but it sounds like they backed off after getting their other commitment.

            I think we have a chance of landing him, even if we aren’t the favorite. Seems to me like with COVID stuff, playing close to home is going to matter more than it used to.

    • He’s the kind of player you root for because he doesn’t look like he was created in a lab, he’s in-state, small school, etc. I’d rate him a 3-star because he has some obvious weaknesses, but enough strengths that he could overcome them and be successful. I’d rather have a 3-star who gets by on accuracy than one that gets by on athleticism. The fact that he’s a 4.0 student with an offer from Yale is a plus, too.

      He’s a very different prospect from Gulbranson or Nolan, so it will be interesting to see their competition over the next few years.

      • I know the Vidlak’s fairly well. They’re a great family.

        I’ll root for Sam wherever he goes, even if it’s the Ducks. He’s a great role model at Hidden Valley, a school that is not great academically.

  23. The pac 12 north is in an arms race now. UW has the top rated QB in the nation, Stanford, Oregon, and Cal all have 4 star QB commits.

    Smith needs to land a good QB in this cycle. Millen is the top guy to get. Seems like a good fit for him system wise with a high upside.

    If you haven’t seen Sam Huard’s flim, I suggest you take a look at what UW will have for three years.

    https://youtu.be/Pc27zHi_4zM

    • Once upon a time, Jacob Eason was the top rated overall recruiting prospect in the nation. I don’t think he came close to living up to the hype.
      This could be a good year to sneak in a snag a good QB since players aren’t attending camps or visiting schools. Teams are having to recruit players based on their junior year film, which is pretty old at this point. Think of how many guys blossom during their senior year who could get passed over if they don’t have a full season this year. The recruiting websites will be even more behind with their rankings. No summer camps to help pay the bills and “evaluate” players.

      Fwiw, somebody messaged me about Vidlak and said 247 was already planning to give him a 3* rating before the OSU offer, so I would expect that rating change to happen some time soon.

        • Seems doubtful, only because our class size will most likely be on the smaller side this year. Unless multiple QBs leave, I don’t see us taking 2 QBs in this class.

          That being said, we always start out saying the class will be small, and it almost always ends up being quite a bit bigger than we first estimate.

        • I wonder if this offer is an indication the Beavs don’t feel comfortable betting on Millen coming here?
          Millen’s brother Cale is currently on the oregon roster too.
          He does look impressive. Basically the kind of QB we get our hopes up about but strike out on at OSU.

          • Could just be a depth offer. Vidlak is a project, while Millen is the guy who could be a multi year starter.

            I would think Vidlak would commit since it’s his only P5 offer. But that shouldn’t scare off Millen since he’s the better player.

    • Well…from the video highlights he’s very accurate at 25-60 yards and basically perfect…I’m sure his screen game is weak?

    • Santiam Christian is basically Corvallis, in fact it shares the Corvallis zip code 97330. They get a lot of good local athletes and compete at the top of 3A. If I remember correctly, the Seumalos went there but Joe wanted Isaac to get more exposure of 5A so they started going to their local school, CHS… #GoSparts!

  24. Note to Bend folks, not sure how many of you enjoy watching games at Sidelines but they re-opened today and are open from 8 am-2 pm every day for takeout if you want to support them.

    And if you’ve never been for a game, pretty good atmosphere for a bar that can be full of Duck fans (owner is a Beaver fan but like most Beavers smart enough to know good business).

    • Nemec is on twitter today saying
      “Buzz growing for Oregon State football today”

      And every reply is from a duck fan, haha.

        • The “spoiler” balls are showing up with 2 new entries for Mascarenas to OSU(Brandon Huffman and Machado) so it’s a good bet the rumor is true.
          They also have Damir Collins picked for OSU. Not bad if our staff can pull in two 4* guys during quarantine recruiting season and with a small number of scholarships available.

          But as always, it’s a long time till signing day. The good news is our staff has a really good track record of hanging onto verbal commitments.

          • No kidding. I think we have two guys drafted next year (Ham and Roberts). Speights might be the best lb in the conference next year too.

      • Duck fans were calling JS little John just two years ago and now he can be referred as Big Bad John! Just our luck if CFB season isn’t in 2020!

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      Okay let’s keep the recruiting momentum going. I’m not expecting four stars as a regular thing but some higher ranked 3s and maybe another higher level player or two that wants to play with Mascarenas. Great to see the staffs work paying off.

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    One high level impression from recruiting under JS so far: we’ve had more good surprises than bad surprises.

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    This class needs to be a lot on quality since it will be a smaller than normal class. Can only take one or two guys who will be projects like Vidlak.

    Do we know of any other guys who took unofficials this year? Seems like the ones who did are the ones committing. Pretty sure Millen did not.

    • I’m not sure why anyone thinks Vidlak is more of a project than any other QB recruit we bring in. We’re not going to ask him to start as a true freshman. The things he appears to be good at are the things that are less coachable.

  27. So I never watched film on Damir Collins, cause why torture myself with hope, but now that he’s a real possibility I checked him out. Guy looks very legit. Balance, vision, acceleration and top end speed all look 4 star to me.

  28. OT – saw that RB Frank Gore is expected to sign w/Jets. The guy is 37. Amazing (crazy?) for a RB to still be playing at that age. He’ll probably have difficulty walking by 50, and I wonder what kind of concussion health he has?

    • In the podcast linked earlier, Matt Sieverson mentioned the beating a RB takes. He shared his admiration for guys who, like Yvenson Bernard, had 20+ carries on a regular basis.

  29. Obviously the LB move is great but I like this QB too.

    I know scholarships are limited but I think a 2nd QB would be good.

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      When it comes to recruiting for 2+ years away, I tend to think “best player available regardless of position” is the best approach. There are just so many unknowns with injuries, transfers, etc. that you can’t plan your numbers perfectly. Obviously you want to have some balance in every class, but if you’re confident enough in a guy to give him an offer while he’s still a Junior, you should take him.

      • Transfer portal makes it even smarter. Guys leave programs constantly and filling holes with a body isn’t as hard as it used to be. I prefer having as many talented guys on the field as possible.

  30. Not really surprising, but today Brandon Huffman has put in a spoiler ball for Vidlak to flip from Montana to OSU

  31. OT: Isn’t some OSU alum a big graphics chip multi-millionare and part Milwaukee Bucks owner that people are trying to figure out how to integrate into tangible support for OSU sports? Thinking of potential fan-free or fan-limited games, made me think if they incorporated player helmet and other cams for the viewer experience, including tech to switch between cams in game? What if OSU had its own systems at Reser, and delivered content to fans (beaver fans, visiting team fans, and more broadly on the internet) with a tiered set of camera views and associated price points (from many/pay to few/free)?

    OSU is never on the leading edge in sports, but it seems like looking long term at changing the viewer experience, they could be with this alum and some approach like this.

    Do it before Phil Knight pays for it does and ESPN has an insufferable exclusive “Duck Cam” and “Tide Cam” that they shamelessly pimp….

    Also, why don’t the refs wear cameras (e.g. go pro type) on their head, so the viewer can see their view of the call? Seems like it could balance out all of the other camera views and help explain some of the differences between their calls and replay views and decisions. I’m sure the refs wouldn’t like it, but it would be a great tool to aid in their performance evaluations.

    • Pretty good concept. I don’t think it would be for me (like a broad view point) but nothing would make me happier than refs running around with head mount go pros.

      • Wasn’t the NFL trying out Ref cams last year? I think they only used it for selective playbacks, not for live action. That might force accountability. But I do think the virtual fan experience will become mainstream, probably much sooner due to the pandemic.

      • I agree broader view is better for this sport, you could have a variety of angles though. I’m not a huge fan of go pro type video, but the video quality and stabilization will continue to improve. I don’t know how you distribute and profit from the content in the context of current broadcasting.

        Add GPS units to each player too; track and review what they did on plays, what needs to improve (routes, etc) (“should have run this route deeper/more shallow”) maybe some tech in helmets to measure or count impacts.

        Add the pandemic issues, and stadium economics may make less long term sense than previously; Reser doesn’t need to get a lot bigger, it needs to get better, and some forward-looking way to share the game could be part of that. I think generally each side of the stadium needs to match to look finished, but if the old side gets rebuilt within 5 years (probably a big question now) it doesn’t need to have all of the amenities of the new side.

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          A lot of research showing singing, yelling and playing wind and brass instruments aerosols droplets and makes the virus 25-50 times more infectious. Not good news for live sports.

          I’m thinking more and more that sports should be coupling with labs that do antibody testing. No antibodies no entry.

          • It’s all muddled in the news but it’s still just two strains. They have confirmed that the second strain is dominant in humans and that it may be more contagious.

        • The aaf league had trackers under the shoulder pads of players. You could see the prior play from your phone. Instead of it saying a 4 yard run, you could watch how it developed.

  32. Anyone catching the Beaver madden tourny? Coach Pitre is a funny dude. I can see why he recruits so we’ll.

    • If stadiums are empty I have trouble seeing the economics for most teams. TV contracts are not enough for most schools.

      • This argument doesn’t fit for me, TV deals provide more revenue than not playing would. And schools have to pay the scholarships and much of the football staff rather a season is played or not. Unless schools just drop football altogether

        Wouldn’t empty stadiums TV money vs. no season still be better for the schools finances?

        • And your gameday costs are way lower with no fans in the stands.

          The biggest hurdle to college football seems to be the schools themselves not opening up. It seems like it would be hard to justify playing college football on campus without letting students return to campus.

          Then you have the player safety issue. Are they going to keep them in a bubble during the season so they don’t have contact with anyone outside the football world? Baseball has already reportedly balked at that strategy.

        • Take a look at this list. If you click the team it gives you a revenue breakdown. OSU gets about 10 million from direct ticket sales. Gameday directly affects licensing (shirts and such) and contributions. Having games with empty stadiums is a 10+ million dollar hit.

          https://sports.usatoday.com/

          If you go down the list to lower divisions or non P-5 they become reliant on ticket sales and body bag games. Not having payouts or ticket sales would make most division 2 teams run at horrible deficit.

          Teams with plenty of tv revenue and endless people buying gear will be fine but the system is built on lower division schools to feed transfers up and provide easy wins.

          • The largest costs for the football program are fixed (scholarships/salaries). Even though TV revenue can’t cover costs completely, it at least buys you time until next season.

            You could arguably generate more advertising money than usual due to the “sports starvation” phenomenon.

          • NB,

            I get that, but not having games would mean taking that 10+ million hit AND no TV revenue correct?

            So wouldn’t that be even worse?

          • For sure it would be worse. At that point you just suspend the whole season and drop scholarships/salaries to survive.

            My main point that athletic departments are pretty screwed for the most parts without butts in seats and body bag games. P-5 can probably hold out for a season or two but the rest are in huge trouble.

          • OSU is a P5 school. Those are the schools I am discussing.

            I already conceded the “drop football” option but I don’t see any P5 school making that decision. They will play. Although I could see them dropping non-conference games for the savings which could lead to many non-P5 schools dropping football.

            I do agree small schools are in trouble.

          • That’s cool. I was talking about the whole system not P5 or OSU specific. If we lose the lower levels the whole system will have to change in a serious way.

    • Kate Brown just took a big dump on this topic and is recommending no large gatherings in Oregon through the end of September. Meaning Oregon State could miss out on 3 home games, unless the significantly modify the setting.

      Seems a tad early to make the call on something happening 5 months from now.

      • I mean the NCAA cancelled the CWS in March. That seemed ridiculous then.

        Brown is setting expectations. I think she will make a final call in Aug when schools decide if they will have in person classes. The state does seem to be on track to do that.

        • The world series being cancelled was a decision based off of the spring regular season being cancelled. Hard to have a tournament when teams don’t play games leading up to it, so it was an easy decision to make early.

          • Meh, I think you are giving them too much credit.

            They canceled the spring championships because without March Madness they didn’t have the revenue to host the events.

            Beyond that requires politics which I won’t do.

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    Read Brown’s plan, totally non-political statement. May 15 sounds perfect. Will be nice to be able to go out for my birthday which happens to be that day, hope Deschutes County has a plan (based on conversations with owner of Sidelines it sounds like they do).

  34. Save guy that I posted from last week. Gold, silver, economy, swaps, gold/silver ratio, quotes from a few other authors, even a little on Covid 19. Its pretty long so if you just want to read my summary of the article and skip all the reading: We are screwed.

    May 7, 2020

    The Miles Franklin Newsletter

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    From The Desk Of David Schectman

    It certainly appears that there’s a line in the sand at $1,700 spot for gold — and it’s even more apparent that there’s a ‘Stop’ sign at $15 spot in silver…which just happens to coincide with its 50-day moving average at the moment. All attempts to rally above those two numbers by any amount has met with resolute selling pressure. How long this state of affairs lasts, remains to be seen. – Ed Steer

    “When will the gold prices will finally be “catching fire?

    The commodities complex will likely see another bull run in the next three to five years,
    My suspicion is that the next five years will be very good for natural resources investors, with precious metals enjoying a two or three-year bull market and somewhere towards the end of that bull market, the rest of the commodities complex catching fire,” – Rick Rule, president of Sprott U.S.

    David’s Commentary (In Blue):

    Does this make any sense to you? It was reported today on CNBC that US private payrolls drop by 20.2 million in April, the worst job loss in the history of ADP report. But the report was not as bad as estimates of 22 million job losses were expected. In today’s world that qualifies as good news. ONLY 20.2 million hard working people lost their jobs. Wall Street used that as cover to take gold down around $20. The DOW dropped only 218 points. The markets are managed – and for the time being, gold is being capped at $1,700 and the stock market will not be allowed to crash. This is only temporary and it is a window of opportunity for those of you still holding onto your stocks and short on gold. Chances are you will not have an opportunity to sell your stocks at such an overvalued price and buy gold at such a suppressed price again.

    The US Treasury Department seeks to borrow a record $3 trillion THIS QUARTER. That’s right, for just this quarter. OMG. Debt got us into this mess in the first place and the solution to the problem is MUCH more debt. If this makes sense to you, you need help.

    The wholesale price of beef has doubled in the past few weeks. Expect to see the prices rise in grocery stores and restaurants shortly. Yes, we can have inflation co-existing with deflation. Food prices, especially meat and poultry will rise dramatically while oil is tanking.

    Many people believe that this is just another 2006 -2008. No, 2006-2008 was the “rehearsal.” Now we have the real thing. That said, look what happened to gold during that period. Gold doubled, rising from $500 an ounce to over $1,000 an ounce.

    The Fed and the ECB have indicated that they “will do whatever it takes.” Last Fall, even before the crash in March, the Fed instituted the REPOS and poured billions into the market to keep the banks and hedge funds and stock market from sinking from a lack of liquidity. Obviously, there was a crisis at that time, well before the Coronavirus entered the scene.

    Now, central banks are printing money in the trillions out of thin air. There is only one way this can play out. The dollar will collapse. Some will say it already has. If you measure the dollar against the Swiss franc it is down 80% since 1971. Measured against gold, the dollar is down 98% since 1971. Wake up people, the dollar has collapsed but most people still think it’s strong. The money being printed by the Fed and by the ECB has very minimal value and it’s not going to save the world. It has a temporary affect now – mostly to hold up the stock market for a brief period of time. It is mostly psychological effect only.

    The current Paper to Gold Ratio (the number of “paper” gold ounces traded on the major world Gold exchanges divided by the actual world production of Gold in ounces per year is 88 to 1. The Paper to Silver Ratio is now 174 to 1. This is like a game of musical chairs. This is why I only own physical gold and silver and no longer own any ETFs.

    People don’t understand what inflation is. Normal inflation is “demand led,” and it results in a higher price of goods and services. But hyperinflation is A CURRENCY EVENT. It is the result of the debasement of the currency. Viewed through the recent creation of trillions and trillions of dollars (and euros, yen and yuan) It’s obvious that we have hyperinflation now. It hasn’t yet resulted in a rush to dump dollars and euros, but it will. Just look at what is happening right before your eyes. It’s happening worldwide and this is just the beginning.

    Once foreigners realize what is happening, they will rush to the exits and dump the dollar (US Treasuries). The US bond market will come under enormous pressure. At some point the only buyer left will be the US Fed. The Bank of Japan is the only buyer of Japanese bonds now. The Fed will be forced to print more and more money to buy these bonds. This is monetization. Printing dollars to buy our bonds. This has been going on since the 70s and a much more measured rate, but now it is going to accelerate. We are going to have deflation and inflation at the same time. There will be deflation of real estate, the bond market and the stock market (the bubble assets) caused by debasement of the dollar and the value of money going down.

    So far, the gold market hasn’t reacted to all of this, but it’s coming. We can see the increased demand for physical gold, but the price is being held in check on the COMEX. But not for long. All of a sudden, out of the blue, the gold price and the silver price will shoot up and it’s coming soon. The money printing has just started. I am not a pessimist, I am not doom-and-gloom, but I can read the facts and see what is happening. This can’t end well because we are sitting on the biggest financial bubble in history. There is absolutely no solution, and that is 100% clear. No solution, but the outcome is crystal clear.

    I keep hearing that 30 million Americans that have lost their jobs in the last 6 weeks. No, the numbers are understated by as much as 50% and it is more like 50 million Americans have lost their jobs. For every 10 people who have successfully filed unemployment claims, three or four people have been unable to register and another two people have not tried to apply. Plus, the EPI survey indicates that an additional 8.9 million to 13.9 people have been shut out of the system. This is worse than the Great Depression.

    According to Jim Rickards, “A new survey shows that of those who received IRS stimulus checks, 38% added to savings, 26% paid off debt, and 18% planned to spend but not yet. As I warned, there’s no “stimulus” in the “stimulus.” This is a Classic liquidity trap. It’s Deflationary.

    People think because its America the dollar can’t collapse; we can’t turn into a Venezuela or Zimbabwe. History has taught us that no country immune is from a currency collapse. If you think that can’t happen here, you are in for a rude awakening. By believing it can’t happen here makes it even more likely that it will. This country is living on a credit card with all the bailouts of the banks and hedge funds and large corporations. Debt is rampant everywhere. Car debt, credit card debt, mortgage debt, college tuition debt, pension plan debt, state and municipal debt. We are drowning in debt. Now that the economy is shut down, the debt is about to devour us. And the Fed knows it, and is “fixing” the problem by pouring on more debt. Take a look around you. Tent cities are popping up everywhere, people are sleeping in their cars, people are getting by using pay day loans, people are in long lines at food banks and many are driving up in nice cars. It’s not just the poor who are looking for a handout. Much of the middle class is living beyond their means as well and all it took was missing a couple of paychecks. The music is about to stop. There will be many millions of people who will be devastated. People are getting destroyed financially and yet the stock market still goes up.

    I have been writing that we are headed into deflation followed by hyperinflation. Mike Maloney sees things the same way. So does Egon von Greyerz. All of us see the same issues and the same outcome. All of us are warning our readers. We are doing our best to give you a heads up. I realize that human nature makes it difficult to accept a harsh reality. But you should. If you sit idly by and do nothing you will live regret it.

    Mike Maloney says,

    “Next up is a banking crisis. When people stop paying their mortgages and credit card balances the banks will be in trouble. We will have a banking crisis and it could eventually lead to a banking holiday. Do you have two-month’s worth of cash at home just in case?

    Tax revenues are flat since 2015 and we have just entered a recession and the recession we’re in is the greatest recession since the Great Depression. It’s going to end up being a depression and I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out to be the Greatest Depression. The Fed won’t tell you we are in a recession because it takes two quarters of GDP contraction before we have an “official” recession.

    The official US Debt clock shows our national debt has increased by two trillion in just a couple of weeks. Meanwhile tax revenue is falling rapidly. So here we are with tax revenues falling and deficits exploding.

    According to Egon von Greyerz,

    Global hyperinflation is looming due to the governments’ ongoing debasement of currencies around the world.

    When financial institutions, bond markets, and derivatives markets come under pressure, the current struggles in the global economy will look insignificant. We’ve seen this happening throughout history, and we know how badly things inevitably turn out. If money created out of thin air works, why don’t we just print the whole GDP so people can stop working.

    Ted Butler says,

    For the umpteenth time over the last twenty years…the only thing standing in the way of monstrously higher precious metal prices is “a price suppression caused by the concentrated short selling by a handful of banks on the COMEX futures market.” That’s all that matters, there ain’t no more.

    Robert Kiyosaki says,

    The reason I endorse gold and silver and Bitcoin is because they are insurance, they are outside the Fed and the Treasury.

    Up until 1971, US dollars were actually backed by gold, making them literally “as good as gold.” When the link between gold and the dollar was cut, it was clear that it would end in the ruin of the dollar. This had to end with politicians eventually printing unlimited amounts of paper money. Welcome to the endgame.

    One of the reasons most Americans believe that there is no need for gold is because retail prices have remained flat – in spite of soaring borrowing levels, while trillions of dollars of debt were allowed to run up without sparking what governments call inflation.

    Hyperinflations usually arrive after massive printing of an unbacked paper money and it ends up with the inevitable crash. That’s what happened between 1922 and 1923 in Germany. Hyperinflation followed by a depression, leading to WW2.

    It’s happening again right now in America. The Fed is printing at least $4 trillion to keep credit flowing and the Fed is making direct loans to US businesses – with money the government does not have. Politicians will merrily have the $4 trillion cash printed; equaling around 13% of the total current American debt level, which risks a tragedy for America – also other nations that are comparably running their own printing presses. And when the $4 trillion runs out they will print another $4 trillion or as much as it takes. They aren’t fixing the problem, they are simply buying a few months, and nothing more.

    In a world where governments can’t even balance their budgets, how can those debts ever be repaid? They can’t, they won’t.

    The word “inflation” has been changed from its classic definition of “overprinting” to now mean “rising prices.” Government economists, evidently unaware of this semantic error, could thus legally get away with unlimited printing! That is a crucial point that is not understood by most people.

    The reason inflation has been kept somewhat under control for such a long time is because it has been moderated by an occasional deflation which rebalanced the economy. But now we are facing an insurmountable problem. The world is already in a deflation regardless of what the MSM and Washington tell you. They use the rising stock market as proof that things are not all that bad and the economy will recover.

    While we hope there’s no hyperinflation, the best way to protect yourself is by exchanging paper money for gold and silver – because governments can’t print the metals. But who will sell it to you? America’s vast gold holdings are not for sale, assuming they are still there (which seems unlikely). The government banks in Russia and China have also been accumulating gold. We are all in a race to acquire gold and our competition has deep pockets. They are the central banks and the very wealthy, who will soon move vast sums of money into gold – once the stock market starts to crash. Gold will back the world’s next paper currency, and those with gold will make the rules. It will not surprise me if a cigar box full of one-ounce gold coins will be worth much more than a brief case full of hundred-dollar bills. And if hyperinflation really takes hold, a single gold coin could be worth more than the brief case full of hundred-dollar bills.

    Many nations are already in a deflation despite denials from government economists. Take Japan for example. Their remedy has been to cut rates, which was bound to fail. Lower interest rates have failed to halt deflations, because the remedy is not lowering rates, it is fixing currencies. The remedy is never to prescribe more of the same medicine that created the problem in the first place. Deflation leads to money printing to jump start the economy which leads to inflation – or even hyperinflation. The level of printing that the Fed is undertaking now sound more like hyperinflation.

    Here is a Bombshell Report in Newsweek:

    DR. FAUCI BACKED CONTROVERSIAL WUHAN LAB WITH MILLIONS OF U.S. DOLLARS FOR RISKY CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH. Just last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function on bat coronaviruses. In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.

    What is this Gain of Function Research? According to the National Institutes of Health, “Certain gain-of-function studies with the potential to enhance the pathogenicity or transmissibility of potential pandemic pathogens (PPPs) have raised biosafety and biosecurity concerns, including the potential dual use risks associated with the misuse of the information or products resulting from such research.”

    “SARS-CoV-2, the virus now causing a global pandemic, is believed to have originated in bats. U.S. intelligence, after originally asserting that the coronavirus had occurred naturally, conceded last month that the pandemic may have originated in a leak from the Wuhan lab. (At this point most scientists say it’s possible – but not likely – that the pandemic virus was engineered or manipulated.)

    Dr. Fauci did not respond to Newsweek’s requests for comment. The NIH said scientific research indicates that “there is no evidence that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory.” What else would you expect them to say?

    The following article was taken from the JSMineste website. It is well written and the writer’s views are similar to our views here at Miles Franklin.

    Aden Sisters

    The perfect storm

    Gold has always been the world’s favorite safe haven. This has been true for thousands of years, and its especially true today.

    During these unprecedented times, gold is again showing its true colors… It’s strong and bullish. It’s near a seven-year high and all signs indicate it’s headed a lot higher. In fact, we believe the upside for gold will be wide open in the upcoming years.

    Currently, gold is on its way to the 2011 highs above $1900. And if gold now stays above $l680, this target could be reached sooner rather than later. After that, it’ll then likely skyrocket.

    There are basically three major reasons why and they’ve all joined together to form the perfect storm.

    First, there’s been a massive debt build up all over the world. This was already very serious, way before the coronavirus news started making headlines. But since then, emergency financing has soared worldwide.

    The Fed, for instance, has been printing money like mad. And other countries have been doing the same.

    This will all end up fueling big inflation down the road. As the great Richard Russell used to say, inflate or die, and we’re clearly in an inflate or die situation.

    That’s because the world’s central banks feel they must do whatever it takes to keep the economy from falling apart. And if inflation is the end result, they’ll worry about that later.
    For now, coronavirus and its economic effects are the big concern. This is a major event and it’s something that hasn’t happened since the Spanish Flu in 1918.

    THE BOTTOM LINE…
    All of these repercussions are going to be very bullish for gold, especially considering this perfect storm we’ve entered. It’s going to change many things.
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    Most important, it will become increasingly obvious that gold is one solid way to protect yourself and your wealth. Gold is now in a very special situation.

    Sure, it’ll probably be volatile at times as the pandemic evolves, but look at this as a time to get set for the really big major rise that’s still to come. In other words, buy on weakness. We think you’ll be very glad you did. And if you already have gold, keep it and enjoy the ride.

    Zero Hedge
    6 Central Banks & The Ponzi Scheme That Will Bankrupt The World

    “Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.”

    ‘War On Cash’ Is Kicking Into Overdrive

    When the next panic hits, and it will hit, there won’t be any gold available at any price…

    New Coronavirus Study Claims Outbreak Will Last Longer Than 2 Years As 2/3rds Of Humanity Infected

    Great – more good news…

    “The Dam Has Burst”: Why David Einhorn Thinks The Coronavirus Shock Will Lead To Soaring Inflation

    “We expect policymakers to target and applaud mid-single digit inflation, which, combined with interest rate suppression, will be the only way to outgrow the mounting debts. ”
    Billionaire Sam Zell Sees Economy Permanently Scarred by Pandemic

    Sam Zell, the billionaire known for buying up troubled real estate, said the coronavirus pandemic will leave the same kind of impact on the economy and society as the Great Depression 80 years ago, with long-lasting changes in human behavior that imperil many business models.

    “Too many people are anticipating a kind of V-like recovery,” Zell said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. “We’re all going to be permanently scarred by having lived through this.”

    Just as the depression left behind a generation that couldn’t shake the experience of mass unemployment, hunger and desperation, the burdens this crisis has forced on society may be similarly hard to forget. Zell, 78, said it won’t be easy for people to live as they did before the “extraordinary shock” of the pandemic.

    He expects some amount of social distancing and working from home to persist long after the acute phase of the outbreak is over, possibly for years. Retail, hospitality, travel, live entertainment and professional sports are some of the industries he sees continuing to struggle.

    “How soon will anybody get on an airplane? How soon will anybody stay in a hotel? How soon will anybody go to a mall?” he asked. “The fact that these places may be open doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ll be doing business.”

    This Bloomberg news item was posted on their Internet site at 5:00 a.m. PDT [Pacific Daylight Time] on Tuesday morning — and is the first offering of the day from Swedish reader Patrik Ekdahl. Another link to it is here. Gregory Mannarino’s post market close rant for Tuesday is linked here.

    Hedge funds bet on gold as refuge from ‘unfettered’ currency printing

    Some of the largest hedge funds are raising their bets on gold, forecasting that central banks’ unprecedented responses to the coronavirus crisis will lead to devaluations of major currencies.

    Paul Singer’s Elliott Management, Andrew Law’s Caxton Associates, and Danny Yong’s Dymon Asia Capital are all bullish on the yellow metal, which has risen around 12 percent this year.

    They are wagering that moves to loosen monetary policy and even directly finance government spending, intended to limit the economic damage from the virus, will debase fiat currencies and provide a further boost to gold.

    “Gold is a hedge against unfettered fiat currency printing,” said Mr. Yong, founding partner at Dymon Asia, which is up 36 percent this year, helped by its bet on the gold price.

    New York-based Elliott, which manages around $40 billion in assets, told its investors last month that gold is “one of the most undervalued” assets available and that its fair value was “multiples of its current price.”

    In a letter, Elliott cited the “fanatical debasement of money by all the world’s central banks” as well as low interest rates and disruption to mining caused by coronavirus. Profits from gold positions helped the hedge fund to a gain of about 2 percent in the first quarter. …

    The above five paragraphs are all of this gold-related news item that’s posted in the clear over at the ft.com Internet site. It was posted there early on Tuesday morning BST — and I found it in on the gata.org Internet site. A link to the GATA dispatch is here.

    Marin Katusa says you need to focus on the swap lines to understand what is coming in the gold market.

    Marin Katusa

    To understand the war on gold that is coming, all you have to do is focus on the swap lines. The swap line is set up by the US Fed, and currently, there are 15 nations that are approved for swap lines. This is just the beginning. What a swap line means is the Fed, the US Govt. have pre-approved the nations as allies who have accepted the terms and conditions to be able to draw down money. Japan has drawn down over 200 billion on their swap line in the last 30 days. The reason they are doing that is because they need access to US dollars. These are “positive” swap line countries. In the last 30 days, the 15 positive swap line countries have drawn down almost 500 billion from the Fed. At this rate, by summer, these 15 countries will have drawn down a trillion dollars. The “negative” swap line countries, who will not get a swap line include China, Russia and Iran, etc. Those nations will be accelerating the “War On Gold.” with increasing taxes, increasing ownership, and even outright nationalization of foreign owned assets.

    The US Dollar is the world’s reserve currency. It represents over 60% of the foreign exchange reserves in China, Italy, France, Russia, and Germany. The next highest is the euro at 20% and then the Japanese yen. From 2000 to 2008 the central banks were net sellers of gold. Since then they became buyers of gold. Now, due to the Coronavirus, we are in deflation and commodity prices have never been lower – relative to the US dollar (and gold). The emerging countries (including Russia and China) can protect themselves by building up their military and can protect themselves against the US Dollar by buying gold. In the last few years Russia have increased the gold component of their foreign reserves from under 4% to almost 20%. The Chinese are less than 3%. China will have to buy more gold. China is the largest producer of gold in the world and they keep all of it. China would have to buy 128 million ounces of gold just to catch up to the ratio of Russian gold to GDP. That is more than one years global production.

    The first thing that the negative swap line countries will do is to tap into gold and gold mines and increasing their taxes and their ownership and in some cases even nationalizing the mines. Katusna’s point here is that if you own mining share in companies that have mines in these “negative swap line” countries, there is an added layer of risk involved.

    What it tells me is that the DEMAND for gold will increase greatly with all of the “negative swap line” countries motivated to source as much gold as possible to reduce risk from the US Dollar.

    Tell me how the economy will ever recover is this report is correct? I think it is credible.

    Drudge Report

    Pandemic Could Last Two Years

    As coronavirus restrictions around the world are being lifted, a new report warns the pandemic that has already killed more than 230,000 people likely won’t be contained for two years. The modeling study from the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota also says that about 70% of people need to be immune in order to bring the virus to a halt.

    Influenza pandemics dating back to the 1700s, as well as data about the new coronavirus, can help forecast how Covid-19 may spread over the coming months and years. Out of the eight past flu pandemics, scientists said seven had a second substantial peak about six months after the first one. Additionally, some had “smaller waves of cases over the course of two years.” After the initial outbreak.

    A key factor in their prediction for the current pandemic revolves around herd immunity, which refers to the community-wide resistance to the spread of a contagious disease that results when a high percentage of people are immune to it, either through vaccination or prior exposure.

    “The length of the pandemic will likely be 18 to 24 months, as herd immunity gradually develops in the human population,” the report says. “Given the transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2” — the virus that causes COVID-19 — “60% to 70% of the population may need to be immune to reach a critical threshold of herd immunity to halt the pandemic.”

    It will take time to reach that point, since data from blood tests show only a small fraction of the overall population has been infected so far, and a possible vaccine is still months if not a year or more away. It is not yet clear whether people who’ve recovered from the infection will be immune or how long such protection would last.

    The report lays out several possible scenarios, including one in which a larger wave of illnesses may happen in the fall or winter of 2020 and then subsequent smaller waves in 2021. The researchers say this model — similar to the pattern seen in the devastating 1918 Spanish flu pandemic — would “require the reinstitution of mitigation measures in the fall in an attempt to drive down spread of infection and prevent healthcare systems from being overwhelmed.”

    Two other scenarios in the report involve either recurring peaks and valleys of outbreaks, or smaller waves of illness over the next two years.

    We have favored silver over gold for many months now. Meanwhile, gold has outperformed silver. Did we make a mistake? If history is to be our guide, then no. Think of this as the turtle and the hare. Silver being the hare.

    Takeaways From The Current Gold/Silver Ratio

    Gold was at its most expensive, relative to silver, when the ratio hit 126:1 on March 18 of this year. At that time, it took 126 ounces of silver to buy one ounce of gold.

    In November, 1979 Silver was at its most valuable versus gold, when one ounce of silver could buy only 15 ounces of gold.

    Silver is currently the cheapest it has been in the last 44 years.

    Gold is now only 10% below its all-time high while silver is 70% below its previous high, reached twice before.

    Silver is lagging behind. The gold/silver ratio is currently at 113:1 (one ounce of gold can buy 113 ounces of silver). That makes silver historically cheap. The 44-year average of the ratio is 55:1. The current price of gold is $1700 so just returning to its 44-year average silver would rise dramatically to as high as $31 an ounce.

    Silver hit $50 an ounce twice before. Now, Jim Dines predicts silver will top $50 for a third time on its was to $300/oz or higher, depending on what the Fed and Treasury decide to do. Dines called the $50 top for silver both times before.

    We expect the gap in the G/S/R to be narrowed; probably with silver’s catch-up rise
    During the pandemic’s stock market panic selling, investors sought gold, the classic safe haven. Gold provides liquidity available from no other asset class. In mid-April, gold coin sales increased despite premiums at 5% to 10% over spot gold (premiums are typically 1%), plus some gold mining stocks reached all-time highs. Silver was perceived as more of an industrial metal. Soon, it will return to its usual role as the “poor man’s gold.”

    Silver is a strong “Buy” now at $15. Silver is the superstar in waiting, destined to rise to incredible heights longer-term. Gold bullion will lead silver bullion early on, but silver will catch up. Once silver breaks above its previous high of $19.54/oz, last seen on 4 Sep 2019, it should be off to the races.

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    • That’s so long. Cliff’s notes?

      I’m starting to get very bullish commodities…lumber, natural gas (e.g. EDP), etc all very cheap. I’d rather buy cheap commodities than stocks at all time highs, as they kill stocks during high inflation. Bonds have a put so the capital gain trade will roll on. Risk free return there and again better than stocks. The action in stocks is the dumbest I’ve seen since ’99.

    • I guess my question would be how does one go about buying gold and silver? Should one invest in it or own it physically or both?

      • -Owning it physically is best.
        -Gold royalties are another way to play it, and I’d say they’re best after physical.
        -Mining stocks are a leveraged play, but you have the counter-party risk of (a) bad management with the miners and (b) custodian of any ETF (c) input costs such as gas, etc. There has been some consolidation in the industry that has lowered risk.

        I wouldn’t buy anything gold or silver related right now because the run up has been immense. Unless you have zero exposure. If so, a few silver coins to start maybe or maybe 1/10oz gold coin. I’d start small here. I think by June or so mine will be running at better capacity and it will meet the current supply shortage that’s driving up prices. Then again, they’re discussing 2k checks per citizen for the next 6 months…so maybe go all-in gold? Lol.

        I was screaming for people to buy in the 1150-1200 range last year. It’s weird people are more interested now when it’s so much higher. I’m more interested in lumber, oil, and agriculture right now.

        • agree with Angry. go buy some old silver dollars or JFK halves when they were mostly silver. It’s like insurance. Won’t appreciate a lot but good to have

        • I’ve said it before…the physical gold shortage is a refinery issue, not a mine issue. Most refineries were closed for at least a month and transportation for dore, their raw material is difficult for miners to charter because there are so fewer international flights.

          Mines have not been hit especially hard by COVID, and they are not so nimble they can open the tap and produce more with less than 12-18 months’ notice.

      • As I recall you asked a month or two ago about “getting started” in investing. If I recall correctly and you are a beginner do not even think about commodity trading.
        Start with some fundamentals. If you have a job that offers a 401k with a company match. Max that out every year. In addition open and fund as much as possible in an IRA.
        Speculation and commodity trading is for when you are set and have money to play with.

        • Yes I did. Do you suggest I use a broker or financial advisor? I really want to get started but don’t really know how. I have money saved that I wanted to invest with for awhile. I also would like to protect against hyperinflation and if the dollar collapses and what not. Thx.

          • Silver coins to start. Junk bullion, Eagles, Maples, or Mexican Centenarios. After that, gold French Roosters or Swiss Francs — both have lower premiums than 1/10oz coins. The premiums suck right now, though, so wait a bit. Investing in coins is all about getting low premiums. CL is good for this. Just meet in public. This isn’t advice just opinion of how I’d play that situation. Since premiums are high you could use GLD to trade the gold price until premiums drop, then buy coins, though I wouldn’t do this. Again, none of it advice. My actual advice is to read up on all this and educate yourself.

        • Speculation and commodity trading is for when you are set and have money to play with.

          Well for one, gold is a commodity. But I’m not saying to speculate. With high inflation in the pipeline, commodities always outperform stocks and are less risky, and they’re dirt cheap. The cheap commodities right now, IMO, are oil and lumber. Agriculture is interesting. It’s more a buy what is cheap situation not encouraging speculation. Gold isn’t exactly cheap right now, so it doesn’t interest me as much here, though I do think it’s going much higher over the next decade. Not advice. Just opinion.

          • Gotcha, buddy, but high inflation/hyper inflation isn’t a fundamental scenario. I don’t think the average person or even planners realize both bonds and stocks get nearly wiped out in hyperinflation. But those are likely what any planner will put him in. A 60/40 or 70/30 depending on his age…not great for these times.

            There are very specific things and companies to own right now. Maybe ten stocks. Maybe four commodities. Real estate isn’t bad, either…at a 3% interest rate it’s a dollar short, effectively. A planner will paint with way too broad a stroke under the guise of “diversification” (translation: I don’t want to get sued) and put him in crap that limits real returns.

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    Good thing they’re closing restaurants at 10:00pm because if there’s one thing we know for sure about this virus its that IT COMES OUT AT NIGHT!!

  36. Just saw a video about “Juniors to keep an eye on for 2021 NFL Draft,” which included Jamar Jefferson. His inclusion surprised me a bit since RBs aren’t valued very highly anymore. BUT, yeah, likely JJ’s last college season if they play one. Better get another RB in the pipeline..

    • When they put out the 40 times it said he ran a 4.43. I said right there that if that was accurate he’s gone after this season.

      • Ask around a look for a good financial planner. That person should do a complete assessment of your financial goals, time horizon to retirement, risk tolerance, marital and family obligations, ie college and present you with a plan to get there.
        If you’re a novice many are very good. Just watch for anyone that wants to load you up with lots of fees and commissions.
        Don’t know how old you are, but ask around. Trusted peers or retirees? I’m sure there are some good options on Maui.
        Time is of the essence. The sooner you start the better you will do. Good luck.

        • Man…not sure I agree. My mom’s financial planner put her 90% in junk bonds because she said she’d like to make income. On top of that, they were junk bond funds with enormous fees. Now we’re trying to correct the mess and get her into something more reasonable for her age.

          Best thing someone can do is spend a few weeks educating themselves.

          • Hence… “be careful.“ Needs be be put into risk tolerant and age appropriate investments. Get a referral from a trusted friend. Then learn the basics and keep an eye on everything.

          • The difficult thing is that just about everything is in a bubble, so safety is relative. I could give you a reason why every asset class could have a 20% drop over the next six months.

          • Commodities are pretty cheap, BeavDE. Some emerging markets are ridiculously cheap, and probably get cheaper soon. I’m slowly averaging into commodities. Not touching EM yet.

            Petti. I hear ya…but I think he should spend the time to educate himself. You pick winners and leave out the crap and don’t pay anyone fees – huge savings when compounded over years.

          • I’m kicking myself for missing the boat with oil when it was negative.

            Do you play in commodity producers or commodity ETF’s? I’ve never found the ETF’s give good enough returns.

            EM’s…hoo boy. I see too much COVID risk still. You don’t see much coverage of the situation in EM’s here, so I don’t think the reality has really hit markets. And most will get pummeled by the dollar boom.

            Look at the big ones: Brazil is a mess already and way earlier on the COVID curve than most. Russia is dependent on energy exports which will suffer for at least the next two years. India has no way to break its cycle of underperformance unless they’re successful in positioning themselves as the alternative to China. South Africa’s government is destroying it and they have tons of structural issues. Their resource sector is declining, too. Turkey’s currency situation is tied to the USD strength. Mexico had 0% GDP before COVID and AMLO has been a disaster for the economy.

            It’s way too early for any of them. I could maybe see an argument for India or Russia. Maybe Mexico after a change of government because they’re best positioned to benefit from a US-China divorce. Chile is an interesting play with its exposure to copper, but there’s a nascent political dynamic there I’m not familiar enough with.

        • Agree… time is his ally as I think he’s a young guy. 20% dip when you’re in your 20’s and dollar cost averaging. Good deal.
          I went through 2-3 recessions, 87 flash crash, the last few months and am still a believer in age appropriate risk allocation and diversification.

    • As a RB, if you can get drafted after your junior year, you absolutely should. RB’s can only take so many hits over their careers.

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    I got a hard time seeing college football happening. I mean even without fans these are college kids. Some knucklehead is gonna go to a party come down with the Rona, then the entire team has to quarantine 14 days mid season. That starts to happen to a few teams it just doesn’t seem realistic the season will finish if it starts.

  38. I heard today libraries are now the most trusted institutions in America. OSU has a sweet library. I wonder if this is how we’re landing the 4-star recruits.

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    So anyone else see the modern day lynching in Georgia, gotta love the south where you can have a human roundup and not get arrested for 3 months, if you’re white.

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      Really? People are downvoting you?

      You’ve got to be kidding… comon guys. A black guy was murdered in broad daylight just did jogging through his neighborhood.

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        Doesn’t affect them… probably had it coming…on Mainstream media, so murder had a liberal bias…yaddy Yada

        Denialism and whataboutism works for 40% of the country.

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        Shouldn’t have been jogging in the same neighborhood where he was robbing houses.

        (Heavy sarcasm since you never know how people take something said on the internet)

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        Sad, man.

        I’ll give into my better world and assume the down votes are for the tragedy of the event, or some folks hadn’t seen the video yet, not the fact that it was brought up.

        Because in my cynical world, those down votes could mean they approve of the three knucklehead vigilantes.

        People here come from all viewpoints, I haven’t seen anything yet to believe someone here would approve what is shown in that video.

        • Do you remember that kid wearing headphones who the cops shot a few years back? White kid. I guess he didn’t hear them due to the music. But anyway, this “Libertarian” (my NRA trainer, actually) I was friends with at the time said “He had it coming…walking around with music and not aware of your surroundings, he had it coming one day.” What?

          I call it “flippant machismo” disease. Definitely some type of mental illness with that mindset.

          • Kind of…he was one of those guys who thought he was always in battle. He did all that tactical training etc. I think all that stuff is smart, if you can leave it behind when you’re done. He was also flippant and machismo by nature. The asshole stole my property, so that was the end of that friendship. It tarnished my idea of Libertarians forever. At the time I somewhat identified as one.

    • I don’t know that many young people besides my cousins who are all doing great but I feel like at least part of the issue with people being young and lazy is the lack of a greater good type cause.

      • The only thing that 1920s and modern young people have in common is that they are living through pandemic. Isn’t it odd how history is repeating itself.

        • It’s the doom of humanity when we ignore the lessons of the past. Forgetfulness is possibly our most common trait!

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        Young people are no more lazy than young people from every generation were. This beleif that “young people today are worse” is has existed since the first old people existed.

        And it is bullshit, always has been, always will be.

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          You really think a modern young person could last more then 20 minutes in 1920s america? I don’t believe that for 1 second.

          • There were plenty of lazy people in the 1920s…that decade was defined by the lazy. i.e. the roaring 20s where people sat around doing nothing but collecting rent off their stock portfolio…sounds a lot like today, actually.

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            Yes, a “modern” young person would do just as as good as those raised in the 1920’s.

            Yes, without question.

            Claiming the next generation is lazier is as old as humanity. And it has always been bullshit.

          • Speaking of lazy. Today is the first day of the newly modified schedule for Portland teachers. The school district had the board vote on whether they should furlough teachers every Friday as a cost saving measure to prepare for next year.
            The catch, they realized full unemployment benefits are extended to people who lose 10% or more of their work due to Covid19. So, teachers will be working 4 days per week the rest of the year, while collecting full unemployment benefits for that 1 day off. This also means teachers will be paid more than they would normally be paid if they were drawing a full salary because full unemployment benefits are greater than 1 day of missed pay.

            Of course they preface everything by saying “it’s in our children’s best interest” while at the same time eliminating meal distribution programs on Fridays.

            So, effective today, it’s 3 day weekends for teachers/kids the rest of the year and parents and unemployment are left to pick up the slack.

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            In addition, several teachers I know have said their jobs have been cake since schools got shut down and they moved to distance learning. They set up online lesson plans for their classes, then quit for the day before lunch time and use the rest of their day to run errands or go for a hike, and then they check in and answer emails at the end of the day. To say they are even “working” 4 days would be misleading. It’s more like 4 half days.

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            Good to see we’ve reached the “teachers are lazy” stage.

            I don’t know a single teacher that doesn’t want to be in the classroom but you are right; planning our lessons does take less time. At my school we are given 50 minutes a day for planning/grading so we get pretty efficient at it. Our job is to connect, teach, and spend 50 minutes per day with about 6 separate groups of about 30 kids each.

            I hget e-mails from parents saying that the 2 lessons per week (instead of the usual 5) and 1 30 minute Webex session are still too overwhelming. And less than 20% of kids attend Webex meetings at all. Teachers can only control so much.

            I bet most of those teachers would rather be at school, I don’t know a single teacher that prefers this.

          • Maybe unfair of me to say portland teachers are being lazy, since this decision was made by the board. But the board gaming the system to extend full unemployment during a time when working is possible. The board is forcing laziness

          • The board has a coming budget shortfall coming, shifting 10% to unemployment probably means keeping a few teachers that would be laid off next year. Which is a net positive for kids.

            The reality is without federal help teachers, cops, firefighters, etc. are gonna be on the chopping block soon.

            Portland is probably trying to get ahead.

            My school (not district) expects to the equivalent of at least 3 teachers next year. And that likely assumes our union agrees to forego only our 2nd cost of living raise we’ve gotten since the last recession.

          • The 1920’s were a lot tougher than now just like the 1820’s were tougher than the 1920’s.

            There was no computer jobs. Mostly a lot of back breaking labor. The govt did not send out money. You were on your own.

    • What do you think the modern ccc’s mission would be? We don’t need clearing or basic road construction, rails not a thing, don’t need dams. I have seen some countries employing people for forest management (clearing and burning) and replanting efforts to get some forests back.

      Curious to see if others have ideas.

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        We need road construction all over America.

        Also need to rebuild our bridges, airports, yes even our rail system, and so much more.

        Our infrastructure is an embarrassment compared to most of the first world.

        • We don’t need road construction we need road repair. That’s not really work for basic tools and unskilled labor. Clearing land and basic grading is but we just don’t have need for that.

          Bridge repair/replacement, rail repair/replacement and airports are all skilled work. That kind of stuff just can’t be done by a pile of young people without specialized skill and equipment.

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            Unskilled CCC workers built Timberline lodge.

            Running most heavy equipment is not difficult, a few are but whats needed in road repair/resurfacing isn’t.

          • They didn’t have OSHA, codes, certifications, licensing or really even design standards during the CCC. It’s a different world.

            Many of our roads are 5 years past resurfacing/repair. We’re talking total replacement all over the place. Crews could be trained but it would take some ramp up time. Also equipment isn’t something you can just buy in 100,000 lots and have the next month.

            Just don’t think the original model will work for low payed, low skill young people who will be transitional in nature (won’t stick around for than a year for the most part). We need projects you can teach a 14 year old how to do in a few days.

          • This type of training should already be encouraged, use some of the funds on helping unskilled labor get the skills they need.

            I think you’d be impressed by how many young people would make these jobs their careers if given the opportunity.

  40. Anyone else hear the analysts on espn talking about the Big12 taking the top teams from the Pac12? Heard it twice yesterday, once on Golic and Wingo and again on either LeBatard or the Will Cain show. So National shows. They both said the Big12 should take USC, UCLA , Stanford, Oregon, and the Arizona schools. Can’t remember the name of the guy who said it, and possible it was the same person, I just don’t know.

    • I could see where SC might be tempted, and if they go UCLA has to. If the Big TWELVE can do business with 10 or 11 teams I don’t see why having 13, 14, 16 should matter.

    • That’s a great idea. When athletic budgets are strained let’s add a shitload more air travel haha. It will not ever happen but going back to smaller regional models would be better for fans, players and expenses.

      TV wants consolidation and you get better collective bargaining the bigger the conference fan base. I favor a streaming platform and conference owned filming/production crews. All games get uploaded to a service like YouTube and payment can be based on subscription distributions and add revenue based on viewers.

      There are about 50 million regular college football viewers. Charge $15 a head and you are looking at 3.2 million per team. Take a quarter of that for production expenses. Add revenue gets shared 10/30/60 (platform, conference, team) judged on an events viewership.

      That model would give a great budget to low tier teams, relatively cheap access by fans, and reward teams who are the most viewed. Hell it could even have a cut for athletes.

    • I think OLive was talking a few weeks back about why UO should join.

      The only positive is that Bill Walton would no longer say, 20 times per game, “here, in the conference of champions..”

      • Bill Walton and the mute button are symbiotic.

        This from an article about 2020 mlb with few or no people in the stands.

        “The crack of the bat and the pop of a glove might resonate with a rich, deep echo that invokes the nostalgia of the game — back to the days of playing in front of just family and friends in Little League or high school when the loudest noises were the ping of an aluminum bat and an overzealous parent.”

    • We probably wind up with the crappy Pac teams and Boise St, CSU, BYU et al in our conference.
      This would probably be better for the Beavs if USC, Oregon, and Washington all moved on.

  41. Who watched the OSU virtual meeting yesterday? Smith and Barnes were a bit more relaxed without formal media. Nice to see.

    Fairly informative. Reser remodel is still going forward. They are planning to play this year. Open to moving the schedule if need be. But the by state differences in rules is a potential barrier.

    Matt Moore was a guest as was Hamilcar.

  42. Mike Glennon to the Jags… less of a chance for Luton to see meaningful action. Not necessarily a terrible thing for him assuming he can still make the roster

      • I kind of think Tinkle is either a bad manager of talent, a bad evaluator or both. And don’t tell me potential recruits looking at Oregon State don’t notice players leaving. Sure, maybe COVID played a role in the decisions, but Tinkle has maybe two years left if he doesn’t get an NCAA bid. And the talent he’s brought in doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. If he couldn’t get it done with a trio of four stars, I doubt a roster loaded with three stars is going to get it done.

        • Three stars might work out if Tinkle was a good coach. It is not original for me to say that his players don’t improve and it seems to me that more than a few of the more touted recruits flail around. The program just seems way off.

        • Weren’t Baby Tinks and the Thompson Twins all ESPN Top 100 players? It’s hard to think of another team with three in the starting line-up who ended up being so mediocre. Big Tinks best season was led by GP-2, maybe Tinks convinced him to stay, but he didn’t recruit him. I guess he gets credit for Kelley, but his overall ability to recruit and develop has not been impressive.

  43. Regarding gold and some of the newbs interested in it: just realize it is taxed at the collectable rate. And windfall taxes are possible in the future for people smart enough to buy some. Something to keep in mind. You might have to hold it a long time for a better government regime to realize the purchasing power. The odds of this are fairly high, imo, as FDR did similar things in the 30s. I’m still taking my chances because ultimately it should still be better than dollars, and since the rich hold most of the gold there will be backlash against anything like that. Another reason I wouldn’t buy here, though, unless you have zero exposure because between the tax rate and premiums you’re really behind the 8 ball. It’s not a great time to buy, despite what the gold bugs will say.

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    A White House staffer tested positive for Covid19 today. Some type of staffer who works with Pence. Asymptomatic, was negative yesterday and positive today, so they’ve removed her from the workplace.
    This guy thinks all this proves is testing is problematic because it could say your negative one day and positive a day later…..
    I have nothing more to add.

    https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1258832127484887040?s=09

  45. So on the football side of things I’m interested in how you guys think this pandemic will impact OSU and the rest of the conference.

    Here are some of the positives and negatives imho.

    The whole coaching staff is returning. So the continuity will give us an advantage over the other teams in the conference with new HCs and coordinators. They won’t have to teach new systems or install new culture. They are fairly young so are able to adjust to the no contact recruiting through the use of technology and coaching as well. Our probable starter qb has been in the system for 2 years.

    Negatively it hurts that Gebbia has no starting experience and could use an offseason of getting first team reps. We have to replace 3 very good starters on the o-line and they aren’t getting the reps to build chemistry there. Defensively all those jc dbs aren’t getting reps to learn the system so they can make immediate impacts. Not saying they won’t just hurts their chances and ability too.

    I’m not sure what to think if the season is delayed how it will effect them. Also if they don’t play the non-conference games. It might be nice to miss Oklahoma st. but they could definitely use the 2 other easier games against CO st. and PSU.

    • Also its probably going to really hurt a guy like Whitley who was struggling to stay on the field last year. I doubt he’s pushing himself to get in shape as hard as the staff would’ve.

  46. We also have a corps of fairly inexperienced pass catchers. We lost a lot of targets with Hodgins and Togiai gone, and the guys that are left haven’t made much of an impact to date.

    Informal workouts with Gebbia would have been huge. They need to not only get on the same page as him, but also to step up their game(s).

      • Zero dropoff? Losing Hodgins?? Man, couldn’t disagree more.

        Togiai spent most of his career (and even a lot of 2019) as a major disappointment, but he really did put it together at the end.

        I think we have potential at WR and TE, but I don’t think we have anyone so talented that I’ll believe it before I see it. And even if the talent is real, the lack of reps and practice will hurt since they’re not there yet.

        Lindsay really disappointed last year. Bradford was underwhelming too, though hopefully that was lingering injury issues. Flemings doesn’t seem like a game changer. The whole WR group is on the small side- we have no-one with the frame or upside to replace Hodgins. I do like the potential at TE but again…unproven.

        • Forgetting the Transfers? Harrison is a 4-star and looks better than Hodgins.
          Didn’t we get another 4-star WR? Forgetting the name.
          Lindsey was a 4-star and looked incredible sans the drops — another year should do him well.
          TE is absolutely loaded with guys way better than Togia, who was basically shit.

          • That’s what I mentioned below. Unfortunately the transfers are who not having practices hurt the most. That’s if they’re eligible this season.

          • Lindsey, Bradford, Taylor, Flemings is formidable even if the transfers don’t play this year. Irish is even interesting. Harrison just puts them over the top and makes the unit elite.

            Musgrave and Overman are >>> Togia at TE.

          • I didn’t think either transfer player would be eligible this year- I could be wrong about that.

            Togiai was garbage right until he was on fire for the last 4-5 games. He balled out and looked great.

            Still, can’t forget him solely costing us that 2019 Stanford game on some truly awful zero-effort plays.

      • Yep. Togia was mostly garbage. Musgrave and Overman both look potentially dominating. I’d much rather have those two guys than Togia.

    • Bradford is a sixth year senior I think. Then you have quitoriano, taylor, flemings, lindsay with multiple years in the system and significant playing time. They don’t have to learn a bunch of new things with the same coaches being back. It does hurt players like harrison, and lowe if they’re eligible to play.

    • OL and DB are our biggest concerns. DL is also a question mark. We’re obvious bowl quality everywhere else, but those are big holes.

      Coach M is the key to the season. If we have a good offense, we can overcome a defense that’s merely below average (like the end of last year) rather than bad (the beginning of last year.)

      • OL and DB……..funny you should mention them. Heard Nick Aliotti on the radio today, when asked which groups in general, would benefit most from a FULL Fall Camp he said, “OL and DB”. So much depends on chemistry with those units, especially a problem with guys who’ve not played together.

        Yeah, it was on the show hosted by a sleaze we hate. Forgive me, I had little choice in the matter.

      • I’m mostly concerned with the tackle that will play opposite of kipper. There isn’t a lot of experience or depth there. The interior we have quite a few guys who have had a solid amount of playing time. But they all need to have a chance to develop and become one cohesive unit. Hopefully the jc dbs are able to pick the d up quickly without too many physical reps. I was really hoping for a nice lift from them. It seemed like it took nashon about half the season to really find his stride. DL I’m not as concerned with they only lost aydon and reichner is coming back. Sandberg was a nice surprise when he came back from injury. Some of the younger guys are probably ready to start contributing as well. Guys like Bennett, Hennessy, and stover.

        • That’s because they’re the hardest positions to recruit (except DB. I don’t understand why our secondary has been so bad the last several years.)

          • I’ve always heard CB is tough to recruit. We’ve had a lot of good ones, but I don’t think that’s the norm. Safeties and slot corners shouldn’t be that hard to find.

            At the NFL level, DE (or edge rushing OLB) and CB are the highest scarcity positions on defense.

  47. Regarding whether the football season will be played in the state of Oregon. Barnes and Ray have been fairly open about the possibility of starting late, playing without fans, etc. Mullens and Schill have not given any comments and Cristobal said he can’t imagine Autzen without fans. I wonder if they are in denial or working the government behind the scenes? I’m sure the SEC has a business as usual mindset. The Quacks like to think of themselves as SEC west. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    • NCAA pres Mark Emmert doesn’t sound very optimistic. Boils it down to colleges win’t have athletics if they don’t have students in campus. If some schools are still 100% distance learning, they won’t have student athletes on campus and thus, no sports. Seems like a no brainer. Not sure how schools who do have students on campus adjust schedules for those who don’t. Forfeit?

      Some uofo professor was on Canzano yesterday saying he thinks uofo will be operating in some sort of hybrid fashion in the fall. Like Tuesdays have 1/2 of the class in person and half online, and Thursdays flip flop the half that attend in person vs online.
      I’d imagine several students would elect for full time online only.

      I also have a friend who teaches part time at Portland Community College amd they’ve been told already that Fall term will be 100% virtual.

      So who knows. Sports aren’t the priority in public health decision making, at least not here in the northwest. I’d imagine if we all do our part and significantly reduce community spread over the next 3-4 months, we’ll have football played in September with small audiences. But I also don’t have a ton of faith in community spread being reduced significantly as they simultaneously relax restrictions across the states. Only way that happens is if they find spread significantly reduces naturally during the warmer months.

          • as a matter of fact I always wear a mask when I’m in a store and social distance otherwise. I guess I just feel competent enough to manage my own risks. (I don’t use hateful speech here or anywhere else and have never been a fan of the vulgar hi-jinks others here sometimes like to revel in. I guess that makes me a prude,)

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            Neat…..

            Your whole “economic suicide” conspiracy schtick is just your non-profane way of saying “I want to go to the store and I don’t care who dies to allow me to do it”

            So, basically, same guy.

        • Is it really that hard to understand, or just fun to be contrarian?
          State’s are currently loosening restrictions up. It’s basically an experiment to see if we can maintain low numbers of disease outbreak. If community spread flares again and gets worse, they’re going to tighten things up again. Do you think cases will go down or up over the next 4 months? I don’t know. If they go up with any significance, campuses will shut down for Fall and we’re not getting college football. I’m hopeful the warmer Summer weather will help and we’ll have football. But as a Beaver fan, you should know hopeful ain’t a plan.

          • If that is a question aimed in my direction, yes, I do like to be a contrarian. That’s why I was attracted to this site in the first place. I never understood the Riley infatuation in Beaver Nation. That said, there will inevitably be more cases. How can it be otherwise, until there’s a vaccine. The question isn’t the number of new cases, but the rate of viral spread, weighed against the cost of not opening the economy until there aren’t any more “new cases.” This site was always irreverent towards perceived authority and welcomed heterodox viewpoints. Now it’s becoming a place where moral narcissists reign.

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            And here you are claiming a position no one on this site has taken and trying to play the victim. Foxnews has taught you well.

            No one on this site or in any governors house in America has said we cannot open until there are “no new cases”

            Cases are still increasing all over the country and we don’t have enough tests to have any fucking clue how many cases we actually have and states are re-opening without any fucking clue (or care in many cases) about what will happen, that is a fucking problem.

            It’s not complicated.

          • YoungOrst, the cost of reopening is going to be reclosing. Book it.
            People will have to learn the hard way. I’m fine with that. Everything in life should be the organic path, and the organic path here is that it’s Spring and people want to go outside, so they will, and then they will get infected more, so they won’t want to go out. We have to go through that process. We can’t be told it will happen. We have to live it to care. That’s human nature.

          • The question isn’t the number of new cases, but the rate of viral spread, weighed against the cost of not opening the economy until there aren’t any more “new cases.”

            Well the number of new cases is related to the rate of change, for one. Second, you’re never going to know the second variable of not opening the economy.

            I think the Governors are in tough positions. If they open too early, and people die in droves, they will be blamed. If they open too late, and people wind up homeless, they will be blamed. It’s lose-lose. Kinda like the Beavs.

          • Increasing community spread, as in more new cases outpacing expired or recovered cases. It’s not a pure new cases concept. Reducing community spread would mean the ratio becomes more favorable.
            I wasn’t going all moralistic on you, simply predicting football won’t be happening in the unfavorable scenario, and football will be happening if it is favorable. I don’t make the rules, I just predict this is how things will play out over the next several months, at least here in the Northwest, as I said above. I don’t see the ratio becoming more favorable as restrictions are eased. I think nature is the one thing that can save the football season. I hope nature squashes this virus and helps limit it’s spread, because I don’t think people will be able to do it without an assist.

            On a side note, I would attend a football game today if they were playing. I’m not opposed to it happening. But I don’t realistically see that being a choice I will get to make any time soon.

          • The claim from wannabeav above. Just absurd.

            here’s the thing about “reduce community spread.” That’s been done. This about something else now.

            We’ve reduced the spread so well it has literally reached the White House.

            Seriously, we haven’t “reduced” shit.

          • @NiceBeav My guess is MLB will start up and change their model, and NCAA football will do the same. They will play the games and adapt (masks, distancing, no fans, play in one stadium rather than traveling, etc). Whatever is needed to (a) eliminate liability (b) generate revenue (maybe tv/online only at this point). It’s human nature, so it will happen. I’d be somewhat shocked if MLB and NCAA/NFL football are cancelled. It’s possible due to liability reasons, but I don’t think it’s base case given human nature (greed/money to be made) and the American culture of “don’t tread on me”…

          • I do think we’re more likely to have pro sports in some capacity, but it’s not as easy for NCAA sports to follow their model.
            The key for the NCAA sports will be having athletes on campus. If campuses go 100% virtual in fall, I don’t see them making an exception and putting athletes in dorms as the only students on campus.

            I think the pros will have more flexibility to work out a scenario where they can make it happen

      • Yes, this was Emmert’s point. He doesn’t want to treat student athletes differently from the rest of the student body with respect to this health issue.
        If campus is operating with regular students, then student athletes will be part of that population. But not a scenario where only student athletes are on campus but other students are 100% remote

        • I wonder if student athletes would rather play and get a season in without any other students on campus than not play at all. But would they also be doing coursework? It’s funny he is worried about treating them differently now.

          • I’d imagine treating them differently for the sake of having sports exist would open them up to all sorts of legal trouble if someone dies of Covid19 as a direct result of coming into contact with it on the playing field.
            I dont really have an opinion on what the right decision is because it doesn’t involve my health or well being.

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    Governor Brown was fairly specific in saying no large gatherings through September. The only way to start the season seems to be without fans for any home games in Oregon. Some talk now of the Quacks going on the road to Columbus because Ohio may be less restrictive. I would guess Oklahoma will be less so too. Beavers play on the road to a full stadium in Stillwater and come back to play with no fans? Who knows at this point.

  49. Picked up a little inside info on the coming (July 1) replacement of OSP as the law enforcement presence on campus. Apparently a campus police chief has been selected, a person with experience in a similar role from back east; at an institution with considerably smaller enrollment than OSU.

    I was told that the Athletic Dept isn’t happy with the change. Very interesting to learn of the extent of the resources OSP was able to provide, particularly with respect to the crowds at FB games. Often unseen assets which could be sorely missed if things blow up at a large sporting event (literally/figuratively).

    Charlene Alexander, vice president, chief diversity officer and co-chair of the Public Safety Advisory Committee said the committee discussed, “… why Public Safety is needed, the social and political dimensions of public safety. Additionally, we discussed the experiences of racialized individuals with public safety both on and off campus.”
    Sounds like the SJW’s should be happy, for now.

    One thing for sure, we don’t have Lt. Cord Wood of the CPD to joke about anymore, he made the move to OSP in Coos Bay a while back. Hmmmm, wonder if he’s interested in a return to the valley?

    • From several police officers i know in the mid-valley (state, county, city and federal) this is going to be an epic failure. The police force state wide is 20% below the low threshold, and the competition within the state to get certified officers is fierce. Signing bonuses are getting pretty large just to move within the state. Also take the fact that they will most likely have to train people (expensive) while making pay more then competitive (more expensive). In the end they will hire mall-cop level people and get what they pay for.
      I hope F. King does something about it.

      • Spot on, BB! Except, we’ll be paying for a lot MORE than we are getting!
        And the DPSST isn’t graduating newly certified cops, virus you know.
        The school is gonna get a lot of macho men who think working around college chicks is a real opportunity.

        If someone here is caught up on their “honey do’s” it would be interesting to learn of F.Kings experience in this area, as I see it, he has been left by Dr. Ray with a mess and his vice president, chief diversity officer will resist seeing this experiment end.

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    Looks like Tesla is leaving California entirely for Nevada and Texas. All those green jobs. poof. Can’t take the lockdown’s regulatory rigmarole anymore. Maybe the Beavs can play in Winnamucca.

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            The only thing I’d like wannabeav to answer is, why does he believe the USA is incapable of producing enough tests and is incapable of doing what virtually every other country is doing in response to this pandemic.

            Why wannabeav believes we as America just have to accept tens of thousands of death when many countries haven’t accepted that.

            Basically, why wannabeav thinks so poorly of the USA as a country.

            But I know he won’t answer so back to him just being that guy from Florida screaming at people for asking him to wear a mask.

          • I’m mostly just interested in the data question. Pretty sure this one is just a reiteration of questions already posed.

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        I was only reporting on the data, not validating it. I got interested in that site in the first place a month ago when a contributor to this site (who seemingly doesn’t come here any more because of the kind of recrimination that you and YO engage in), viewed the data on that site which seemed to indicate that the outbreak in the state of Washington, which was the first big one, had begun to curve. No more, no less.

        • Comparing me to young is ridiculous.

          I asked what you think now not why you posted it then. The hell is wrong with you.

          • you aren’t interested in what I think of that model. You prejudged what you imagined I would say at 9:13 p.m. last night.

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            Just what I figured.

            You think America is useless. We aren’t capable of solving this problem.

            It’s the only explanation for your asinine positions.

            “American carnage”

            You bought it hook, line, and sinker.

          • Yeah he asked a dumb question and I answered it. I asked you the question cause I was interested in what you think of the model now. Everyone on earth isn’t attacking you 247 and words can be literal.

            If I wanted to just be a dipshit I could holler that you thought the Illuminati used 5G to make Russia blah blah blah. Guess this is why I avoid engaging with you.

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            Young do you ever layoff. Your far left ranting and gotcha tactics makes everyone who moderately agrees with your platform look like psychos.

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            LOL, If expecting the United States of America to be able to handle a pandemic in a competent way is far left so be it.

            I am not even “far left” politically, not even close.

            I just happen to think people that want to force a 62 year old waitress whose doctor has told her she will die if she gets the virus back to work are assholes.

            If that makes me far left to you then you can call me Lenin for all I care.

    • Tesla’s leaving CA, Diablo Canyon will close in the next two years. California is losing out on lots of tax revenue.

      • Diablo is zero surprise. To get a license extension the state requires seismic studies using technology there doesn’t exist. The decision that Diablo was done was made in 2010.

        • It’s crazy how they’re willing to just give up on the profits of that plant. Numerous PWR units around the country are applying for 80 year licenses. Decisions to build the plant were based on a 40 year lifetime.

        • My sister works at the gigafactory. Sparks and Reno are getting decent.

          Elon can also pay way lower wages there.

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            That’s all true, but if I’m a top engineer and Google offers me a job in CA and Tesla offers me a job in NV I’m going CA.

          • I guess it just depends on what you value. If you are single and just want to work on interesting projects all the time bay area is cool. If you want a family, a decent home and some quality of life and also work on interesting things Sparks/Reno is great. I doubt either company will have any challenge getting talented engineers.

            Plus the best most job focused engineers in the world right now are not working for either company, they are after aerospace (emphasis on space) jobs. It’s the coolest challenges in engineering so that’s where the competition is.

          • When I go biking there are so many new people out in the mountains anymore. I think a sweet spot like Reno might actually be a draw for talent down the road. I mean Bend is blowing up and I think Reno in a lot of ways has more to offer.

    • Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms (maybe?) that follow AB. Happy Mother’s Day to all your wives that keep you in line and help raise the kids. Enjoy the day with your family.

      @Alpha-I’ll go Gebbia since he has the most knowledge of Lindgren’s system and had a good showing in his only start giving me confidence he can lead the offense.

      Go Beavs

        • I was thinking that exactly…is Colletto a LB now or did he graduate?
          But either way, Nolan would be a better version. Thinner so maybe not as great near the goal line, but a way better passing threat.

          • R/S Jr on the Spring roster
            He is an ILB, but Smith has been public about still using him in short yardage situations.
            He does have 40 lbs on Nolan, I’ll take that and his experience over Nolan’s arm in short yardage.

          • So use Colletto at the goal line and Nolan between the 20s on 3rd/4th downs where you need a pass/run option.
            Though, Gebbia is pretty mobile, too. So maybe that doesn’t make as much sense as it would have if Luton were still around. Nolan to me looks more mobile than Gebbia. Gebbia has that Aaron Rodgers scrambling ability and Nolan looks more like Jake Locker running.

    • After that Civil War performance you have to start with the premise that Gebbia will get the early look. OSU has a well established tradition (with the notable exception of McMaryon) going to the next guy in line with seniority.

    • I’d lean toward Gebbia (CW performance was very good for the context). But if at the end of “fall camp,” if there was one, and Nolan performed better, start Nolan. If its a toss up, go with Gebbia, and give Nolan some designed plays and some PT if the game is in hand. Using 2 QBs by design would be a great way to get the team ready for both/either.

      And I like the idea of Coletta within 10 yards or so.

      I was really hoping to see Hamilcar and other LBs play this fall, unfortunate there may be no season.

  51. I’d like to talk about sports and economics moving forward. Not politics or this virus. It’s getting super old and draining.

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      I’ll buy that.
      Maybe a list of possible topics?
      -The campus police change mentioned above
      -Some research on F.King in general
      -How you’ll change(improve) your lifestyle as a result of the last few months
      -Things you now appreciate more than before
      -What’s the future of the oil drilling business in the US

      Now, on the baby boom coming in 9 months, here’s how I heard it: “Hard to imagine that will happen to folks who’ve been caged up with their significant other arguing about how to load the dishwasher or which way the TP should roll”

    • I can support that too, Angry. Unless the moderator lead-in calls for it, I stand off on the political ramifications of the virus until others have broken the ice. We’ve lost some good contributors. Scotty rarely shows up any more and it’s been several weeks since we’ve heard from Beavergopher.

  52. Anyone know what kinds of penalties/fees would be required for football/basketball to ditch cable contracts. It’s never going to happen but I’m interested in what it would cost for the ncaa or conferences to create a sports streaming platform.

    Having trouble figuring out what it would cost to break all the convaluted contracts.

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      I don’t plan on getting immunized. I don’t trust the so-called “experts” and I won’t trust the supposed “cure” for the Covid-19 virus either. I’ve had 3 flu shots in my life and got sicker than snot with all three of them. I’ll continue taking CBD and Rick Simpson oil (with minimal traces of THC). That combined with super greens, collagen, 1500 grams of Turmeric and a good probiotic…..

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        So didn’t get your polio, measles, mumps, and other vaccines of that type either? You must love to live dangerously!

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        We appreciate your contribution to the world. My family’s had flu shots provided by the company for roughly 10 years, never had a significant illness. I have however been asked by my supervisor why I’m on the golf course on a Tuesday. How would he know that?

    • There’s a difference between someone accepting a risk of getting infected in order to get on with life, versus “INFECT ME NOW BABY! ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A GUINEA PIG, YEEHAW!”

  53. I like Gebbia, I think he can scramble efficiently and not get laid out. Nolan looks promising as well. Who knows, maybe Ben G has a killer camp and could be in the mix down the road. May the best Beav start

    • I think the practice & training disruptions all but guarantee Gebbia the gig. Incumbency wins.

      I like Gebbia but it’s a raw deal for Nolan. Would have loved an open competition with those two.

    • We have been inundated with statistics, statistics, damn statistics about a certain disease. here’s a statistical prediction: at least one of them will be injured – foot, ankle, knee, hamstring because I assume they will all be wearing Nike cleats.

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    Nice knowin ya Rona, totally shocked that all the smart fellers who predicted 40 million dead missed by a bit. Now it’s time to focus on the real danger MURDER HORNETS. Now Gimme Gimme some murder hornet stimulus bucks baby!

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    Dear youngorst,

    “The next time you have a thought, let it go”

    Ron White

    Not hard to see why your wife bailed. Try being less of a hypocritical, judgmental douchebag.

    Douchebag

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      Thank you for the advice you stole from a comedian.

      Ever had a thought of your own?

      And no wife bailed but it is pretty hilarious how you can take a single comment where no wife was ever mentioned and turned it into some massive conspiracy. No wonder you idiots believe in Q.

      Got some bad news

      Q isn’t gonna save you.

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          I don’t care. Trust me, if I don’t give a shit about what someone I will never meet in the real world thinks about me because of something I said on the internet.

          I can’t wait for my breakup with a girl I dated for 5 months (and whose first question when we met was “Do you support Trump?”) to turn into me murdering and burying the body under my house. I figure we are a few days from that at this point.

          I am actually more bothered when people claim I am far left because I find the far left as offensive as the alt-right. Sadly the alt-right is in power right now though. And the alt-right being in power ticks me off, it should tick everyone off.

          And I freely admit I am an asshole on this issue. And damn proud to be one.

  56. Saw Sean Miller Moore has been granted a transfer waiver allowing him to play immediately, wherever he transfers.
    For a decision to come so fast, it makes it sound like a situation where Miller was forced out by the coaching staff or told he wouldn’t be allowed to play next year. Just my suspicion of course.

    Does anybody know if there’s “moore” to the story?

    Nevermind, didn’t realize he was a grad transfer. Carry on

  57. Some positive, non-political Covid news. A long time friend of our family in his 70’s had been in the hospital at OHSU for the past 6 weeks fighting complications after a positive Covid19 diagnosis. He wasn’t allowed to leave unless he tested negative 2 days in a row. Today, he finally reached that milestone and was allowed to return home.
    I can’t imagine 6 consecutive weeks in an inpatient setting. And his family was not allowed to visit him in person the entire time. Was a very stressful past 1 1/2 months for their family and today they get to put it behind them.

  58. Got a couple “honey-do’s” out of the way with a little time left to research F.King’s experience with campus police. Disappointed to learn that LSU has it own PD, 75 employees strong! With, per their website, jurisdiction which “extends to any area in Louisiana where (an) investigation may lead. ”
    Four years ago the LSUPD meekly went up against the SJW’s when they put out a “vague” description of a suspect as, “black male wearing dark hoodie.”

    I found nothing on F.Kings relations with the LSU PD, but as the new head of OSU, and considering the commitment of his VP – chief diversity officer to the idea, there is little to cause one to think that F.King will spend any political capital on a fight to avoid the fiasco of a private PD at OSU.

    I expect a hard lesson here, we’ll see how much of a “life long learner” we’ve got in the new president.

    • Well no matter how you feel about SJWs a black guy in a hoodie is not helpful for finding a suspect in Baton Rouge at all. Maybe they were fired for plum shoddy police work.

        • Valid points, Ean.
          OTOH, if the only fact known to the cops is that the perp was a “white guy in a flannel” doesn’t that let the public breath a bit easier when around: black guys in general? White gals in bikini’s? Black gals with colorful fingernails?…….etc, etc

  59. How about recommendations for OSU Beavers Football Game highlights to re-watch? I’ve watched AZ, Stanford, and ASU from last year. The only one from the Andersen period is probably CW win, besides that, we’d have to go back a ways.

  60. How are people getting along with their SOs?
    I notice I’ve been snapping more at my lady lately and generally feeling worse about things. I wonder if it’s both working at home and no away time…kinda concerning.

    • It is exactly this:

      “I wonder if it’s both working at home and no away time…kinda concerning.”

      I wouldn’t worry about the relationship if I were you. Find a way to get some time apart and you’ll likely be fine.

      There are gonna be lots of stupid breakups over this when in reality the relationship was fine.

      • Yeah, it really comes down to having a somewhat captive audience and continually bitching about a few particular things without being able to simply LET IT GO.

        Continuing to drone on after stating and clarifying ones position. You know, like how to load the dishwasher, which way the TP should roll, politics, and COVID.
        Some folks just cannot move on. Very irritating and it happens in relationships……….and on sports blogs.

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          Neat,

          Some folks also use the internet to get out the shit that they can’t move on from so they don’t talk about it in life.

          About 75% of the people I interact with daily are Republicans. I listen to them drone on relentlessly most days without comment.

          Anytime a thread asks for no politics (or whatever) I respect that. Go look.

          And even in this thread, I personally don’t think anything I have said (till near the end) is particularly political.

          I think the USA should have handled this pandemic better, if you view that as a political position so be it. I view it as a common sense position that was held by Democrats, Republicans, and Independents for about 250 years prior to 2020. But if you want to blame me for that change, cool.

    • It took my wife and I about 2 years to fully aclimate to being in each other’s biz all the time when she stopped working and I started working from home. Basically all of our friends want to murder their partners right now.

      Structure time to hang out and time to be alone. Just hanging out in the same room not actually interacting is the worst medicine.

      • Yeah. It’s this weird thing where I’m realizing how annoying her “communication style” is…like I will say something, and she’ll agree with it, but instead of saying “Oh yeah I agree” she’ll say the exact thing I just said. So I kind of snap and say, “I JUST said that.” Get irritated to the point I don’t want to talk. I talked to her about it last night, and she said it’s how her parents communicated and ingrained. I think I always noticed it, but when it’s happening more often due to being around each other more often, it’s driving me nuts. Other little things, too. It all has to do with communication style. I’m a straight shooter and flow, and she’s more awkward and in her own head with conversation. I’m not sure why it’s bothering me so much lately. But…first world problems, I guess?

        • Sounds familiar! Good you guys take the time to talk it . Definitely a symptom of more time together and lack of interaction with other people.

    • You’ve gotta stop wearing your masks in the house. It’s hard to tell if you’re smiling at each other or pissed off and it’s creepy.
      Or, conversely, where different masks every day and pretend you’re different people so you don’t get tired of each other.

    • Spend too much time together and you’re bound to get on each other’s nerves. It’s normal.

      But, I’ll also say, my marriage has improved as I’ve tried to shift my mindset more toward appreciating my spouse’s strengths and being more purposeful in cutting off internal criticism of her. That’s probably a more important habit when you’re spending more time with someone.

      There’s some good research on this:
      https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/happily-ever-after/372573/

      “There’s a habit of mind that the masters have,” Gottman explained in an interview, “which is this: they are scanning social environment for things they can appreciate and say thank you for. They are building this culture of respect and appreciation very purposefully. Disasters are scanning the social environment for partners’ mistakes.”

      “It’s not just scanning environment,” chimed in Julie Gottman. “It’s scanning the partner for what the partner is doing right or scanning him for what he’s doing wrong and criticizing versus respecting him and expressing appreciation.”

      • Yeah. All valid. I don’t really scan her for anything wrong. She’s a great person. I’m just super frustrated with the communication style. I don’t know if it was always like this and I didn’t notice, or had time away to decompress from it, etc, or something else. Maybe it’s me and just getting overly moody with this shutdown thing. It started a few months ago right with the stay at home stuff. I’m actually really bummed about it.

  61. Chances of Mick Abel coming to school next year is increasing. Recent track record from drafting right handed prep pitchers in the first round has been pretty abysmal. He’ll still get drafted in the first round but is sliding in mock drafts.

    If he asks for top 5 bonus money, he may fall out of the draft.

    • He won’t get drafted if he doesn’t already have a deal in place with the team that drafts him.

      And I expect he will both get drafted and sign.

      • The more interesting question for me is will whatever team drafts Mick also end up with Kevin either as an under slot signing in the 4th or 5th round (using the savings to pay Mick over slot) or as an undrafted free agent (although the 20K limit might not be enough).

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    Watching the alt-right cult attack Chuck Todd (who is a trash commentator anyhow) for leaving out part of a Bill Barr statement and wanting him sued while ignoring that the entire alt-right media apparatus (Tucker, Hannity, Rush, etc..) is built on straight up lying about what others say is the most amusing thing on the internet today.

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