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Last night: Musgrave gets play of the game, but Jones coming in and shutting down, and Harrison being a total beast also stood out. I look stupid saying the players quit on Smith and we weren’t physical. 12mg can do that. We weren’t physical on defense, but our O-line was, and that was the difference.
On to Cal. We always have their number, so even with it being an away game, I think things are looking good. 52-17 Beavs.
Minus the Wazzu game, Cal has lost all of their other games by less than one possession, including TCU @ Fort Worth. They looked a lot better against Colorado yesterday. They’re solid on defense.
OSU 27-17
Go Beavs!
post game presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VD93O9QHLU
Roberts “Bend don’t break D”…I called that in 2018.
Well they definitely have been broke as they had allowed scoring drives on like 10/13 series and one of those was the victory formation by WSU. They definitely had some big stops this game though in the last 20 min or so.
Bad tackling form + inability to collapse the pocket up the middle = bad 3rd down defense
Love how smith was not happy with the start after a bye week. He’s become more direct and not sugar coating it as much.
Also, huge shoutout to the defense. Gave up ten tots points in the second half. Seven of those in the last 4 minutes. I’ll say Beavs win 31-16. Not fully confident in Nolan to be consistent.
Add to your shoutout to the D: ten points in the second half were preceded by the last 8 minutes of the 2nd qtr where the only Utah score was the short field TD after Nolan’s fumble at the Beavs 19.
A little easier to be blunt when you are winning. When you blast the team for losing you risk losing the team. When you are winning, it is pushing your team.
Beavs are a bad matchup for Cal. They are very one dimensional and garbers makes up almost 30% of their rushing ability. Defense is good but definitely in a rebuild after losing some big pieces. They are much better than their record (musch like OSU in 2019 and 2020) but I don’t see them winning unless Garbers goes 100% super hero. They have one star right now and that’s the Garbers. I don’t think they have the support players to beat us. Expect lots of frustrating 3rd down scrambles but at the end f the day we’re going to grind their defense to paste by the 4th quarter. Our guys are also playing for the official end of beaver suck fest part #2. Cal is barely playing for a chance at a winning season.
45-27 Beavs
I think this is a trap game for a Beaver team that seems prone to fart-sniffing. Cal is solid across the board except at WR and LB. It’s going to be closer than everyone thinks and a test of Smith’s ability to keep the team focused.
What’s their run blocking look like on PFF? Their rush attack is 800 yards on the season if you take Garbers out. Not exactly intimidating.
I agree, it is a trap game and if the team falls for it then they deserve to lose.
Solid across the board with a 69 average. Their OL is like ours in that it’s good on the ground, but pass blocking has been a weakness.
They’ve only scored 164 points and 42 of those were vs Sac State. Seems pretty atrocious.
Their D has only given up 165, so if they have anything going for them it might be there. This is a 2-5 team that can’t score.
Sounds like we have a matchup advantage with Lowe as the receiving back, and we could double team their TEs on third down.
Sucks that Julian is out.
How long is he out, and what was the injury?
Knee injury. I don’t think anyone knows how long he will be out for yet, but he was seen on the sideline with a knee brace and crutches. Hopefully “just” a sprain.
Knee injury.
Can’t imagine he’ll be playing for a while if he can’t walk off the field on his own
Nolan back on top of the PAC in QBR
https://twitter.com/sportspac12/status/1452295216413790218?s=21
Some next day random thoughts after getting to watch the highlights (here, if you didn’t get to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIf4ZF_bSnU)
-Nolan is still the top passer in the conference according to PFF. He went 70% with 2TD/0INT and his completion percentage was hurt by Lindsey’s drop and another where Gray got blown up and Nolan got hit from behind as he threw. He gets overlooked a bit in favor of our ground game, but he had exactly the kind of performance we needed from him.
-Brewer filled in well for Levengood, but his pass blocking was rough. I noticed a few highlights where he got way off balanced and victimized by the DL. PFF rates him pretty bad there, too.
-Jones gets dominated by WR’s on run plays. That’s probably why he wasn’t starting. He was also the second #8 on the butt punt (which is Cookus’s fault, not EJ’s). His coverage is good, though.
-Someone called him out in the game thread, and he deserves more attention: Loecher is PFF’s #5 rated punter nationally and he’s been consistently good. The low snap in the end zone was a nervous moment, but at least he got the punt off.
-Sandberg and Anderson are getting fewer reps at DL as Lolohea and Schad emerge. If Lolohea can put on another 20-25 lbs as he gets older, he’s going to be a beast.
I’ve noticed that the DBs aren’t great at shedding blocks from receivers
Only reason Loecher isn’t on the Guy Watchlist is he doesn’t punt enough. You have to punt like 2.6 times a game to qualify. He’s flat out one of the best punters we have had and is on a record pace. Straight up snake blood and has saved our asses a few times this season with clutch performances.
Lolohea is the most exciting guy on the DL. He plays with a lot of intensity. Looking forward to see what another year in the gym and experience do for him. On several plays he overran the QB just out of inexperience.
He needs to learn not to line up in the neutral zone, though.
Early mistakes make them great aslong as they learn.
Beavs at #37 in Sagarin Rankings. Utah still stupidly ahead of us at #25, but it does help our ranking for them to be up there.
Whiskey with 4 votes in a row and in a short period of time. Someone has hacked the Dominion machine.
Could just be the Oregon people waking up and dispelling their hang over with some off color humor?
I don’t know man, BeavsMax told me it’s Dominion. ;)
Great win, the recruits must have loved it! Besides the fumbles, Nolan had a ok game
I kind of like keeping Wright at safety and playing Austin and Jones as the 2 CB’s. We lose run support strength, but Wright is way better in coverage than Arnold.
Agree, thought with all the injuries late the defense would get shredded, but they somehow looked even better in coverage. Wright all over the field.
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Rewatched 1st quarter this morning. 3 stupid and questionable penalties is what made this game look like a Utah blow out at first. Momentum turner for fans was the blocked punt. But the other play of the game was the Beavs first period scoring drive where Baylor gets the hand off runs to where the hole was supposed to be bounces of defender rolls out and breaks Utah arm tackle on legs using his hand on the turf to keep knees up, runs through two other Utah defenders far enough to gain first down. This was the beginning of the climb to win.
I swear a bully held him down and peed on him or something as a kid. He hates hitting the ground more than any back I have watched since Barry Sanders. Not saying hes Barry Sanders but he just does everything he can every run to stay off the grass.
Okay Beavos, I’m going out to rack up some miles and get high on life. Beav win, beautiful Fall day in the saddle…perfect day! Behave. Don’t hack my Dominion too much.
I’d guess the beavs open as a 6-7 point favorite.
Cal is better than at first glance. QB led the team in rushing last week. That’s always been a problem for beavs. They aren’t the worst in the conference. They’re right in the UW,WSU tier of teams. So it could turn into a tough game.
But the beavs just need to stick with the game plan that’s worked for most of the year. Run run and run some more.
But this is the definition of a trap game. Big win and spent a lot of emotions vs Utah. Can they keep up the motivation? They need to frame this game as win and they are going bowling.
I’d like to see Jack in on lots of 3rd downs playing spy on the QB. I think Garbers should understand what it feels like to get tackled by another ‘qb’.
Also noticed fisher in on the goal line plays. Tibs has some nice heavy package options for the goal line. Good to see some adjustments.
No way Beavs will open as 6-7 point favorite. I’d guess Beavs open as 1-2 point fav and the line will move to Beavs +4
Beavs by at least 30. If they open by +4 I’m literally betting the house.
Bet the house… they open at plus 1.5. Agree it seems like a solid bet but that’s what scares me. Lines is going to move.
I see -1.5 now. Did it move 3 points already?
What I hope this win tells the coaching staff is to not over think this. Amazing that you can win a big game without the ridiculous 4th down decisions they love to make. Only 2 major calls that I would say were suspect. The trick kick off return. One, I don’t know why anyone returns kicks out of the endzone to begin with…much better to take the ball on the 25. 2, it was kicked to the corner and nobody is going to fall for the fake toss to the other return man who’s essentially 1 yard from being out of bounds. Had it been kicked to the middle that fake becomes more believable but I would still take the 25 yards if kicked into the endzone. Maybe that’s on the players being caught up in the moment but I think the smart move there would’ve been to fair catch. The 4th down at the end of the game. I can see the thought process but Hayes has the leg for 52 yards even if his success rate hasn’t been great from that range..doesn’t really attempt many that long so perhaps there is a reason. Just not sure 4th and 5 turns out any differently than the fg outside of giving a few yards back to the defense. Up 2 scores but I would’ve felt much more comfortable being up 14 than 11. Got the heart rate going for sure when they scored in like 40 sec afterwards.
Defense had a few huge stops when it counted. 3rd down obviously a problem and I don’t see that changing under Tibs as it hasn’t over the 4 years. A few were stupid penalties but the other stat that is also concerning is how easily WSU and Utah scored against the defense. From 2nd half of WSU until part way through the 3rd vs Utah the defense gave up scoring drives on I believe it was 10/13. Mostly touchdowns as well. One of those “stops” was the victory formation by WSU. Not long term sustainable to essentially have to be the top scoring team in the conference to get wins. Giving me the Mike Leach WSU vibes where they know the defense isn’t good so you better pile on as many points as possible. Doesn’t leave a lot of margin for error for the offense.
Special teams back to being a game changer and not a liability. Obviously the dialed up punt blocks and the great save by Loecher in the end zone to get the punt off. For quite a few years the punt coverage, kick off coverage, etc was rough and you held your breath everytime.
Huge, huge victory and in front of a lot of recruits too which can’t be understated. Resilient group for sure. We should beat Cal and I think it’ll be much like what we needed to do vs Utah. Contain the qb. Rising had a really good game…close to 300 yds passing and around 75 yds rushing and until we started spying on him he pretty much did what he wanted. Garbers can definitely use his legs and unless we work to contain him, he will pick up those 3rd down conversions.
My keys to victory right now would be similar to Utah. Contain the qb. Win turnover battle. Stay away from the stupid 4th down fakes and trickery and stick to what’s working. We don’t need them to win. Don’t play down to the opponent. This could be easily similar to WSU. Coming off a big win, people are chattering about us again, truly have bowl eligibility with this win…you know the drill. No reason we shouldn’t beat Cal by at least 2 tds but man, if there ever was a trap game this has the ingredients.
Agree with the kickoffs. Too much risk with injuries, turnovers, and bad field position. Never thought it made sense unless there is confidence to consistently get it out to the 35.
We struggle to get it out past the 20.
WSU was our trap game. They got kicked in the nuts and learned from it
Yes and they matched up poorly with WSU. The cal matchup is much. Better for this defense.
Garbers runs well, but it’s not like they call a ton of designed runs for him. He averages 4 carries per game.
Cal does have a big, bruiser type running back that I could see breaking some bigger runs of our secondary is forced to bring him down. Need the DL to do their job on the inside to let Roberts/Speights make tackles.
Is that career avg? So far this year he’s averaging around 9/game. 46 runs over the last 4 games according to Yahoo sports app. 96 yds rushing last game vs Colorado. Regardless, he’s definitely capable of designed runs or the scramble and that’s historically been an issue for us. Will definitely need to account for him in some fashion. Should be interesting!
I must just be seeing designed run plays. Looks like he scrambles a lot, too.
If we can keep Garbers under 150 yards on the ground… we’ll probably do OK.
Beaver fan here so got to be anxious about something. Two major concerns going forward. Nolan; can he keep hot and not get hammered from a blindside defender because holding ball to long? Defense; can they play better especially on third down. Defense had some great plays in this game but some really bad ones too. I saw twice where the DL fell straight forward flat on their face when ball was snapped. OL guy never even touched the DL.
I almost wonder if Baylor isn’t a better running back then Jefferson. Jefferson was great at sudden speed through the whole but Baylor can not only burst of speed but run over people too. I’d rather have the Baylor type because there won’t be wide holes before you at times but you still gotta make it happen.
I’ll add penalties are another major concern for remaining games. The Utah game would not have been the fight it appeared to be if we hadn’t given up 11 penalties for 114 verses Utah’s 4 penalties for 35 yards. 14 points Utah got were the result of OSU defensive penalties. Need to clean that up. Penalties not only give opponents free yards but tires out the defense because keeps them on the field.
Yeah, at this point in the season…. you would think the D penalties would be corrected and trending in the right direction, but instead regressing badly!
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I saw that play with the DLineman falling down.
Good news is that we can hang on for wins while being paper thin on the DL. No DL depth means that generating interior pressure and blitzing the LBs becomes way more difficult. The lack of QB pressure is purely a depth issue.
I think this defense would be completely different on 3rd down if we had those two healthy. Sio mauls lineman and pushes them back, and Hodgins can shed blocks and is a reliable tackler.
Isn’t Hodgins due back any time now?
And what about McCartan? …didn’t notice him vs Utes
Good points McCarthy and hodgins should be back soon I would think. Hopefully Altons injury isn’t as bad as it looked. That dude has been a difference maker
Supposedly. The timeline for recovering from foot injuries is difficult to predict, though.
I thought I heard the broadcasters mention McCartan’s name once.
McCartan hasn’t played yet
Speaking of d line, Franke hurt and has mccartan played at all this season?
Franke is an OLB not sure his health status but I know he got banged up a couple weeks ago. I haven’t seen Mccartan play. He’s been dealing with a lingering hamstring issue.
I’d like to thank Jesus, Jonathan Smith and NB for adding a Thursday game, for this week’s pickum win. #blessed
Saw another angle of the Musgrave punt block return. It looks like it was actually Riley Sharpe who lept over 2 defenders to get the block and Musgrave was in the perfect spot to scoop and run it in. Jesiah Irish may have gotten a finger on it too, and Sharpe got up pretty high on that block.
It’s actually hard to see how Musgrave ended up where he was because he stared the play on the left side and crossed through about 8 bodies to end up on the right side still on his feet..
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Yeah I didn’t think Musgrave blocked it as the player who did was on the ground. He was in the right place to get the ball. Good call by cookus in exploiting a weakness in Utah’s blocking.
Watching the replay in slow motion, I think Musgraves also got a piece of the ball with Sharp. That’s why it bounced toward the Utah sideline.
he said that he touched it but didn’t sound like it was a major impact.
I think after the OL, I have to go with Baylor and/or Bradford for player of the game. Bradford was all over the place making key plays but didnt get much recognition for it. Glad he stuck around for his 8th season
Can’t argue with that.
I’d like to throw Lowe into that conversation. He came up with some big plays. Alex Austin defensively as well. Not the top dawg type players yet, but both had big moments that was huge for the win
Back to back good defensive plays by Jones and Austin. Jones definitely knocked the ball down in the endzone on that 3rd down pass. Then Austin poked it away on the 4th down play.
Yes, Bradford was very good.
But if we had a QB that could place the ball consistently to receivers in stride… one can hope.
angry, you should feature the COTT under the angrybeavs.com header
When Tyjon Lindsay came back into the mix, our offense opened up more when he caught that first down. The pass game complimented the run game, not the other way around. Bradford had huge success with the short in space routes versus the deep ball threat we tried against Wazzu. Is Nolan “back” in his USC form? Hard to tell since the body of work was only the last bit of the second half. If he carries over his second half performance to CAL and doesn’t run with the ball like he did on the fumble, I would say he’s found his mental game and rhythm. WR’s need to continue catching the ball as well. There weren’t any TE passes this game either unlike against Wazzu. How bout Baylor’s 60+ yard scamper and carrying guys on his back to the 1 yardline! That is honey badger beast mode right there.
I got beavs with a 45-17 win against Cal. This won’t be a let down or trap game as we will have Colorado the following week. Schedule is playing out nicely now with this hard fought win against Utah.
Beavs back in the “other receiving votes” category. We probably don’t have a shot at the top 25 for another 2-3 weeks without major upheaval ahead of us.
I cannot parse why UTSA is 47 and Beavs are 48 in FPI. UTSA is undefeated but no team they’ve played has a winning record, which includes mighty teams like Lamar, UNLV and Rice.
Utah falls 4 spots in the loss and the Beavs gain zero?
Finally woke up with a horrible hangover after drinking on every 3rd down our defense gave up. Man, that was dumb.
Pretty happy about the outcome of the game, though. The first quarter gave me ptsd flashbacks. Past years’ teams would not have recovered from that. Smith’s teams certainly have toughness and perseverance, which is so refreshing.
If this team can stop shooting themselves in the foot with dumb penalties and turnovers, every game left on the schedule is legitimately winnable.
Glad you made it bud. I thought you may have died at half time when you stopped commenting.
Lol, thanks. I actually had to start grilling a bunch of Ebner’s sausages at halftime. According to ESPN stats, Utah only converted 7 of 15 3rd downs. Sure felt like most of those were in the first half.
There was a few drives there where it was laughable. 3rd and 10, 3rd and 12, 3rd and 7. Devils downs.
Anything between 3rd & 6 to 3rd & 25 makes me nervous as hell. I’d rather it be 3rd & 3 than 3rd & 9 under the Tibs system.
Maybe do as many crunches for as many yards they give up on a third down play…you’ll be ripped by season’s end if not already.
Baylor may be the best surprise of the season for me. I expected a drop off in production and impact runs after Jefferson left. I liked Baylor, but expected him to be more of a chain mover than big impact runs and TD machine. His absurd YPC is not some artifact of a small sample size or taking advantage of FCS OOC opponents, it’s what he’s DOES week in, week out.
3rd down read option with Nolan and Lowe worked to perfection this game. Seems like 3rd and short we got Colleto, and now 3rd and 2-4 yards the run option seemed like a good change of pace against what the defense normally sees. Maybe it was a change just against Utah but will be interesting to see if it’s implemented going forward
Did they ever use Coletto as the qb for short yardage? I know he had the catch. I thought he was coming in to be the FB. I like that they have moved him around. Defenses have to pay attention to him and it might just be for a decoy now.
Yes he came in once but we had a false start and he came back out.
He was also in as a lead blocking back / decoy. He went right and Baylor went left. Actually didn’t produce much but I get the plan.
I’m sure the chicken little hunters will have fun mocking me for my 56-21 prediction for Utah, but with Utah starting off disciplined play and our dog shit start it could have easily gone that way – but I’ll give our boys credit for the way they punched back.
I think I’ll switch the prediction to 35-7 Beavers based on the following factors:
-Defense finally gets the confidence they were looking for after two very critical 4th down stops against a tough Utah squad, more Colleto, more Jones, and the emergence of Lolohea putting the game all on Garbers.
-Offense has finally stopped playing footsie with being a pass happy team and Lindgren keeps the fact that Baylor’s YPC stat
-Lindgren puts the right WR’s on the field, which makes Nolan’s life easier.
-Special Teams gels into one of the best in the PAC-12
– Smith finally goes for the kill instead of being cute.
Don’t know that Smith will “go for the kill” but I would like to see a situation where he feels comfortable getting some reps for another QB.
Question is: which is better, give Noyer affirmation that he is #2, or encourage Vidlak?
Vidlak. Noyer is almost gone, let vidlak get reps while he redshirts if that situation occurs
Will be interesting to see what happens with Gulbranson though. He might be coming back from his shoulder injury this month or sometime in early Nov unless there’s been a set back. I like Vidlak as well but Gulbranson has looked good in his limited reps and had the best arm apparently until Vidlak showed up. They might be very similar in that aspect. I wouldn’t be surprised with a xfer perhaps. Think Nolan’s success has probably changed what seemed to be a pretty straightforward route going from Gebbia to Gulbranson.
Gulbranson has the best arm on the team.
I honestly don’t want to see anymore of Noyer. He was not good at all and hes gone this season. Give it to the new kids.
Agree 100%
They’ve never been pass happy. Most passes he’s attempted was 25 and that’s six more than the next closest game and still not considered close to pass happy.
Hynson decides which receivers to use not Lindgren.
I was calling out the chicken littles but not for predictions. Thats totally different for thinking they would lose before the game than after 5 minutes into the game saying it’s over like some were.
I guess I shouldn’t say pass happy but more like strategically questionable times to pass when your run game is completely crushing them and Riley trauma when an impressive running game is ignored
NuclearBeaver running away with the first ever COTT award.
I have personally voted for him 19 times.
I heard 40 dead beavers voted for him, and he also voted for himself! We need an audit and recount.
Votes are being shipped in from China. The paper fibers prove it.
I am truly humbled that so many Russian bots have enjoyed my comment.
It was getting close but I found 5 boxes of votes in my trunk. Strangely enough they were all Nuke votes.
NB, any recruiting scuttlebutt or gut bombs from the recruits at this weekend’s game? I see many were 2023 but there were a few 2022 in there.
All I know is if that TE commits then Petras will comment on his hands.
The only 2022 recruit yesterday that we have offered was Justius Lowe. I already thought we were the likely favs to land him and this weekend probably only helped.
Not sure what his timeline is, but it wouldnt surprise me if he jumps at a verbal commitment sooner rather than later.
not much room left in this class amd we’ll likely keep some room for transfers like always, so guys need to get in soon before the spots are all taken up.
We’ll probably keep room available for potential flips at the OLB/DE positions should Lane, Bowser or Eugienio decide to come here. And if someone like Mark Nabou wants to be an OL here, i think we’d make room too.
After that it will be mostly transfer/JC help at CB/Safety yo round out the class.
I havent really considered 2023/2024 guys at all just cause it’s so early.
Appreciate the insight
Commentors in this thread have been very reactionary so far this season but that’s part of being a fan I guess. But it’s funny to see the rollercoaster of positive and negative comments over the course of the season so far. This team has gone from horrible to rise bowl worthy back to horrible to possibly pac champs. Part of that has been Nolan’s streaky play. If he plays well they win if not they have to get some turnovers and run the shit out of the ball.
I called out chicken littles in the game thread because it was so early on and guys were literally saying the game was over. Yes they started of awful but that’s not uncommon for teams to do and then bounce back. Not to mention the first drive by Utah was probably scripted which are usually very effective. The main point I wanted to make is Smith’s teams have rarely been blown out especially as he’s gotten more talent here. They’ve shown incredible resiliency and the ability to fight and claw their way back into games. With the effort and fight these players put forth us as fans should support them until it’s obvious that the game is over and not give up on them when the team has only had 1 possession. Being critical and a fan is fine but saying its over and a blowout is just crazy.
I think fans are just gonna be apt to make predictions and are rarely emotionally unattached about it. I was hollering plenty of negative stuff but I do try to keep to stuff like, “Wow that play sucked” or “Recievers are playing like ass”. Team is resilient as hell and if they are going to play for every second then I’ll be watching.
You’re no longer suffering from the effects of Mike Riley and GA teams. I’m starting to believe we’re never down and out until that clock hits 00:00 at the end of the 4th quarter. I got disparaged when Utah went up 14-0 to start the game, but not to the point where I would stop watching the game or cheering for this team. If there was a game to not stop watching, this one was it. How many lead changes in the second half? This team has Grit and you can’t count out anyone with Grit. Think Jack Colletto being the team leader of Grit. We know what this team is capable of at the start of each game, winning. We are buying into Coach Smith as much as the players are buying into the philosophy. This is why we get upset and “chicken littles”, its not because we think they will get blown out, they will fold, or give up, its because we saw the loss at Wazzu which had steps going backwards. This team took 3 steps forward: special teams, offense, and defense. All 3 facets of the game. Every kick Hayes kicked was a touchback, loecher’s punt was what we expected with a bad snap and getting off a quick kick, Hayes didn’t need to kick anything but PAT’s, punt blocks(even though one was effectively canceled, it still happened).
Then there was the offense, they sputtered at first shaking off the rust from the BYE week. Once that happened, Lindgren called a really good game using the deep passes to flip field in our favor. The short passes set those long passes up as well. I didn’t expect deep passes this game, but Utah wasn’t pressuring Nolan a whole lot last night , which allowed Nolan to be able to step into his throws and no panic. When Nolan has time and doesn’t feel pressured or panicked, he is effective. Baylor is Baylor and Lowe did his thing catching out of the backfield. TE’s were kept in for blocking to give Nolan time and more as decoys n the passing game. WR’s didn’t drop passes like they did at Wazzu. Defense played extremely well in the second half. Caused headaches for Utah.(this is a longer post than I was anticipating)
Some thought it was over including angry saying the players gave up on Smith and saying it could be a blowout. Smith’s teams have shown that they just don’t quitvor get blown out aside from a few outliers when he first got here.
Liked that Nolan finally checked it down to Lowe and it was very effective. That guy is a real weapon in the passing game and I would like lindgren to get a little more creative with him. He was a receiver at Washington after all. Should be able to get him lined up with a LB on him which is a huge mismatch with his speed.
live and die with every pitch
Hey guys I’m going to be flying in for the stanford and ASU games from maui. I land at 8:27 am on the day of the stanford game. What is the earliest start time they’ve had this season Oregon time? Like noon? I’d be pissed if I wasn’t able to make it. Thanks!
12:30p
Sweet thanks! Should be very doable. Is that the earliest any pac 12 game has been on do you know by chance?
West coast games almost never start before noon. You should be fine but you might not get much tailgate.
That’s kind of what I figured but I don’t ever watch the early game here because they’re super early here. Usually only watch the Beavs and maybe a little other Pac 12 games or some really crazy games if they’re happening.
Noon is the earliest they’ve been starting. If Stanford can split their next two games and OSU takes care of business, we’ll most likely be in a good time slot, late afternoon or later. Not many other tantalizing match-ups that weekend. Oregon/WSU and UW/ASU are the only other potential decent games.
Got bored while sitting inside with the cyclone rain and looked ahead at the schedules for most of the undefeated and 1 loss teams. Alabama, Kentucky, Wake Forest and Cincinnati have the easiest schedules (minus championship games). The big 10 teams and the big 12 teams are absolutely chocked full of huge games in the last 5 weeks. They are going to tear each other to pieces. I might be crazy but it looks pretty possible that a 2 loss team gets into the cfp. If any of the big ten or big twelve teams can run the table they will definitely be in though, their end of season resume would be pretty undeniable.
Either way the chance a P12 team gets in is super low. Oregon has been barely pulling out wins and I don’t see them running the table. We probably have the best shot but our SOS and loses are bad.
It’s too bad Purdue dropped that game to Wisconsin.
That is the understatement of the century for me!
I just dont see any scenario where a 2 loss Pac12 team gets in.
Even Oregon with an Ohio State W.
That would be sad for college football if that happened
I doubt Oregon will run the table too, but it’s a decent possibility based on their talent. There were stretches in that UCLA game where they looked unstoppable. They still have to play @ Washington, @ Utah, and home against us, but if their offensive line gets fully healthy, we could see the Beavs play a 10-1 Oregon team.
Oregon would need several things to occur before the conference championships. 1) Bama loses to Auburn or Arkansas. 2) Cincy loses to SMU. 3) Michigan/Michigan State/Iowa have two losses. 4) OU loses one of their three last remaining games (Baylor, ISU, OK State).
These are not out of the realm of possibility, especially 1), 2) and 4). If Wake Forest runs the table, I could see the CFP being:
1) Georgia
2) Ohio State
3) Oregon
4) Wake Forest
Ohio State will demolish Oregon by 50 and Beaver Nation will be satisfied.
I Don’t think Oregon will win out. I think the beavers could very well beat them this year if we stay healthy
I don’t think the Ducks will win out either because the Leghumpers will have something for them. Granted, I was wrong about the UCLA game.
Beavs will beat Oregon handily if they can generate interior pressure. Otherwise, it’s a toss-up.
Beavs open as a 1.5 point favorite. Vegas knows something we don’t…
On it’s face, it seems very low based on record and momentum. But Cal has kept their games close. Last year’s game was a back and forth game. 5 lead changes. Garbers threw for 315 yards with 3td and 2 picks. Beavs picked off Garbers inside the 10 yard line to seal the game so last year’s game could have easily been a loss too.
They had oregon on the ropes but blew the ending and they took UW into overtime and fumbled on the goal line. So a much closer look at Cal says they will be very competitive. They have gotten in their own way to lose games. So maybe the line is accurate
I think I’ll be taking that bet
I’ll be very, very surprised if the Beavs don’t win by 10 or more.
What was your prediction for the WSU game?
38-24, hoping for 66-0 but knew that wasn’t going to happen
Matchup advantages across the board for the Beavs, learned a lesson from the Wazzu loss, and Cal is a run-first team that can’t run the ball. Can’t ask for a better matchup for our defense
Yup. My optimism is completely on the lack of a decent run game. Garbers will have to play hero ball which is what our defense is built for. He’s gonna have to put it in the air all game and each throw is a risk.
I think it’ll be a tied game at half, but like the Oregon game, Cal will wear down.
Cal will get some stops and a turnover or two, but the defense will have stops of their own.
100% guaranteed Beaver Nation will panic
Well Rising had a pretty good game, beavs didn’t get home once. I’m not sure there was even a QB hit in the game. If the beavs can get home vs Cal, it’ll shift the game considerably in the beavs favor. It’s a big ask.
Schad got him once and Rising just got off the pass. Other than that I don’t think we hit him.
Ya I think it will be a fairly close game just judging how they’ve played everyone close. If the Beavs get the good Nolan they should win this game. People look at the record and think they’re a bad team but there isn’t a huge disparity between them and everyone else in the conference. They kind of remind me of the Beavs last year where they just can’t pull out the wins in close games.
Looks like angry will be betting the house! Beavs don’t make him homeless please. Lol
Fortunately, this is auch improved beaver team over last year. However,bthe beavers just can’t expect to show up and win. They must bring their A game to each and every opponent. Garber is a good QB but not great and I don’t think Cal is nearly as physical in the trenches as utah. If OSU has continued success running the ball and Nolan is efficient in the passing game and beavers don’t shoot themselves in the foot, the beavers should win. I’ll reserve my prediction for layer in the week but I think the beavers are on the verge of something special but how special remains to be seen…
BDC approves bringing the A game
Down votes please!
Trying to remember, has a running back lost a fumble this year, or just Nolan? Chance does need to stop that loose ball shit, looked like he wanted to throw the ball, but just needed to get down or throw it out of bounds in that situation.
I thought Baylor lost one early in the season. Or maybe he fumbled and we recovered?
I checked an ESPN stat-thing. If I’m reading it correctly neither Baylor nor Fenwick have lost a fumble in their careers so far. Pretty damn impressive!
Just watching highlights, can understand all the negative reactions after the first 14 points by Utah.
Good perseverance to recover from such boneheaded start.
Great win by Beavs. They could’ve easily folded in the 1st quarter debacle, but responded with a huge touchdown drive to bring back order.
Smith had the right players in the game and it paid off in spades. Gould, Lowe, Harrison, Lindsay and Baylor (less Fenwick for Utah at least was a good idea).
I thought it was interesting that the forced changes on defense may have actually improved the defense, in spite of losing Julian. Considering how many guys haven’t been playing on defense, Tibs is beginning to get more out of them. I think the depth is showing when 4-6 possible defensive starters were unavailable but they continue to battle.
Looking ahead. Cal is not a trap game when the team is playing for bowl eligibilty. This will be an ironic 2nd time to win against Cal and stop a long streak of no bowl eligibility.
Chase Garbage can’t win a big game for his life. He is a stat machine but rarely makes a game changing play. He may be a running threat but he is also a turnover liability by either fumble or int in the worst situation. Roberts is the spy and Garbers will hesitate to run anyway. If Beavs scheme to force him into quick throws, they may get 3 interceptions.
Cal isn’t the Cal of 3 years ago and WIlcox isn’t able to restock the d-line/linebackers they have had recently. They are either young or very thin on the d-line and the Beavs will grind them over the course of the game. No way Cal can withstand the running game of Baylor/Fenwick for the entire game. If Beavs get the lead, Cal will begin throwing a lot, and the ints will come. Cal isn’t WSU offensively, and they aren’t UW defensively. Beavs win running away 45-17
Colorado is much the same story except they don’t have a 4 yr starter qb. Beavs roll in Boulder as well, 42-13
Stanford is limited to jump balls and hoping for pass interference calls to move the ball down the field. Qb is solid but they are limited offensively by receivers and running backs who aren’t game breakers, punt and force them to go the entire field, wear down the defense and grind out a 10 point win. Beavs 31-21
ASU and UO will be much tougher, but by then the Beavs will have the opportunities right in front of them…also wins but both may be by field goals.
Go Beavs. By the way, I had the Beavs at 11-1 or 10-2 in the preseason overly optimistic predictions thread. I hope I am still correct and we can celebrate a North championship as well as a real shot at the Rose Bowl. Beating Utes 2 times will be a tough task, but that is a better match-up for the Beavs than a very athletic ASU team on a neutral field.
Speights usually plays spy. Roberts is the rusher/run support guy. I think that’s the right call
Was confused when I read Chase Garbage, but I forgot they have a recycling center.
Looks like OSU needs to recruit more speed on D, they’re consistently not getting to QBs.
Other thoughts on the game:
1) Nolan still looks like he has some happy feet back there and could stand to settle down, particularly when OSU doesn’t give up a lot of sacks or TFLs. Also needs to improve ball placement. Some nice big pass plays could have been better with better placement. Obviously needs to take better care of the ball, maybe just throw it away once in a while?
2) Baylor wins the Angry Beaver award for the game. I love watching him run. Leading the Pac w/830 yards, 7.0 YPC, and 10 TDs.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/player/_/stat/rushing/group/9
5 players in the Top 50 for rushing yards, Baylor, Fenwick, Lowe, Nolan, and Colletto. I think the Beavs are a rushing team!
That’s impressive, the O-Line needs more recognition.
Even more nuts. Baylor leads in touchdowns with 10, Colletto is tied for 12th with 5 and Fenwick is tied for 16th with 3.
Of the top 50 Baylor and Lowe are tied for 3rd at 7.0 ypc (#1 has 8 caries [Brooks – Cal] and #2 has 32 carries [Rising – Utah] and Fenwick is in the top 10 with 5.8 ypc.
Thats a hell of a job by the offensive line.
Recruits visiting this past weekend, if Nice Beaver didn’t post already:
https://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/2021/10/oregon-state-beavers-football-hosting-massive-recruiting-weekend.html
Let’s chill just a little bit on the criticism of Nolan. When you look at the # of starts at QB (10). he’s really still a FR in terms of career starts. I’ll repeat that again….10 career starts. You can argue he has been in the program for what two years or so but keep in mind there’s no substitute for game time experience. Given the # of starts and the fact he’s the #1 rated QB in the conference shows his development and progress in such a short time. Yes, he still has a learning curve but that’s not unexpected. I think the coaching staff want him to manage games but he doesn’t necessarily have to win the games by himself. Take care of the ball, be efficient and make good decisions….for the most part, I thinks he’s done very well doing just that. I think beating Utah will only help his confidence moving forward.
The criticism is warranted. He’s turned the ball over in 4 straight games and the majority leaving the team in bad situations.
The fumble vs Utah led to a TD.
One of the interceptions vs WSU resulted in a 14 point swing. Could have been up 17-10 instead of down 10-17.
Fumble vs UW led to a TD.
Int vs USC resulted in a 14 point swing. Would have been up 14-7 vs down 7-14. The second INT resulted in a FG.
The fumbles in particular have been bad. Every time he held the ball for too long.
Last year’s fumble against Stanford could have possibly cost the game.
Lol. Someone doesn’t like to hear the truth when it comes to Nolan. Got a downvoter. It happened we all saw it. Deal with it.
I don’t think people are saying Nolan’s bad, but recognizing he needs to improve in taking care of the ball and getting rid of it sooner.
In the past few years, the Beavers were competitive in part because despite a horrendous defense, they took care of the ball. Now what’s keeping them from in-control wins is turning the ball over and third down defense.
Nolan may have only 10 games, but he’s been in the system now for 3 years(?), and he’s had plenty of practice. Its a cliche, but its often said you play the way you practice, and maybe the lack of ball security is what kept Nolan from seeing the field earlier.
In contrast, Rising, on the road, looked I thought more calm and collected out there than Nolan. And Rising has only played 5 games, and only 6 attempts last year.
I keep expecting Nolan to settle down and the game to slow down for him, and learn to throw the ball away instead of hold it too long and fumble. I think he’ll get there, I just wish he’d get there sooner.
Like I said there’s no substitute for. game time experience. It’s one thing to ride the bench and practice for a few years and entirely a different matter to get actual game time experience. Let’s not forget he’s the #1 rated QB in the conference for a reason. Not all mistakes fall directly on him….missed blocking assignments, poorly run route execution, dropped passes, and yes, even some fumbles can be attributed to other poorly executed plays that are rarely seen by the untrained eye. While the fumble vs Utah was poor decision making, that was an example of inexperienced QB play. An experienced QB would rarely hold onto the ball that long resulting in a blind side hit. Knowing when to throw the ball away vs trying to do too much is another experience factor. Without nolan at QB, there’s no way the beavers would be 5-2. So I’ll take his current level of play leading the team with an occasional poor play or decision mixed in.
I just kind of wish he was playing well enough to avoid more controversy next year. I expect Gulbranson and Gebbia will be in the mix again. Sigh
Even if he would just throw it yo the rb would be huge. He checked down and threw it to Lowe once and it went for 11 yards. He is usually wide open because Nolan never decides to just take what the defense is giving him. Hopefully that successful play will result in Nolan doing more of it.
Exactly he doesn’t have to do too much just manage the game and make the easy throws. He needs to do a better job taking care of the ball. When he plays average or better the Beavs win especially if he takes care of the ball. The Beavs still aren’t a good enough team to beat themselves and win consistently.
Aside from the few fumbles, I cant complain. He’s playing really well, especially considering he came into the season as our 3rd string QB. Most teams would be having major issues if they were using QB3 most of the season, but there hasnt been much, if any, drop off from how Gebbia played last year vs Nolan this year.
Hoping we get to see a blowout somewhere this season that allows Vidlak to get a little experience other than handing the ball off and bleeding the clock.
GP II with 10 points in 17 minutes for the Warriors. Hope he has found a home. Always thought he’d be a nice backup pg for the Blazers since he actually plays defense.
Cal is better than their record indicates. Good experienced QB. Solid defense. Playing at home. Beavs will be missing both Julian and Grant in first half. I expect Cal to be balanced on offense and move the ball. Beavs must take care of ball. JS can’t make stupid decisions… trick plays, going for it on 4th down, etc. I’m thinking Beavs find a way but it will be a nail biter. 28-27 Beavs
Almost every Cal game this year has been close. No reason to think ours will be different.
OT: Beaver swag in the Gopher tailgating lot I’m in: My retro Benny flag I fly has three attracted OSU grads doing graduate work at the U of Minnesota.
Saw a couple Beaver sweatshirts wondering around the lot before the Maryland game. A new group of guys showed up this year across the aisle from us this year and one walked up with a Beav cap on and asked about the OSU flag. Turns out he is Mikayla Pivec’s uncle! He confirmed the that the players absolutely love Scott Rueck and that “he is the real deal.”
Both Rodents winning games the same weekend is a mind blowing concept. Rodent Rose Bowl?
Rodents fir the Rises w/a beaver victory.
Surprised to see that the Gophers are 5-2 after that loss to Bowling Green. They could go 10-2 and make the conference championship if they get past Iowa.
Until evidence to the contrary, I assume a loss to Iowa and WI.-(
You needed confirmation that players like Rueck and he’s the real deal?
No….how does that stick your ass feel?
I’m good…? Just an odd thing to say. The coach we all know is insanely good and recruits incredibly well, he’s the real deal. Duh?
Mm well speakin’ of the voting stuff Rolling Stone just blew up the January 6th story. The useful idiots involved spilled the beans.
Several high profile GOP members of Congress were named in that article. If that turns out to be true, all of them should be expelled and charged with direct involvement in the crimes committed that day. Whether anyone has the guts to do anything about it remains to be seen…this could have a significant impact on the mid term election and 2024 too. Every American should want to know the truth behind that act of domestic terrorism.
I miss the days of sports, and sports blogs, being just that. Some of us enjoyed the escapism.
I’ve seen 2 articles related to this… one for, one against. Like everything in politics today what can you believe? Mostly NOTHING!
Isn’t the rolling stone article based on what 2 organizers are testifying before congress?
Do you believe they won’t lie to further their cause?
I thought MAGA doesn’t lie because they’re such good Christians?
Not MAGA if you stop toeing the line.
I believe that they will lie to save their asses. If they have supporting evidence its a bad look for some of the biggest names in the GOP.
I’m picturing the 2nd article being from “Rolling Stoned”, penned by Roger Stone.
Lolol
As usual…. totally nailed Utah-OSU. Called it 42-24. Yea me!
42 – 34
“Totally nailed Utah…..” too freaking funny. He picked Utah to win and win big but I did too.
Minor detail.
You’re correct, you’re a very minor detail.
Cal will be another tough game.. Especially on D likely being without Julian. This is a game where his all around talent and athleticism would have been critical as I think it would have against UTAH with his ability to play in the box and act as a spy or cover TE’s and Slot WR’s alike. Tibs doesn’t use him enough in this role which is a large reason for the 3rd down struggles. I did love the look of Rey Wright at safety/nickel and Jones length at corner opposite Austin so that is at least encouraging for the first half Saturday without Grant and Julian. Hardge also looks like one of our better tacklers in the secondary so him being able to get on the field a bit more against the Bears ground and short passing attack should also be a boost.
I know a few folks on this site were pretty high on this guy when GA left. Well he’s available again…
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32472924/sources-texas-tech-fires-head-coach-matt-wells-13-17-record-names-sonny-cumbie-interim-coach
I guess you got down voted by “HireMattWells”? Remember that poster from a few years back? I don’t think TTU is going recapture the “pirate magic” any time soon.
Yes I remember him. Agree, they found lightning in a bottle with Leach.
Waiting for Cory Hall to be available.
Tech is a really hard place to win. Kind of like the WSU of the Big 12. Not a compelling destination for most recruits, tons of local recruiting competition, and almost every program in the conference has more resources.
That said, Wells’s results were only ever “pretty good” at Gary Andersen State. TT results aren’t surprising. Maybe Beau Baldwin is on the market for a HC gig?
Probably hire Rolo. Good fit in Texas.
Wait, they’re 5-3 and they fired him?
At OSU we’re talking about Smith needing a huge raise at 5-2, haha.
It’s Texas. I’m sure the fanbase/boosters are under some delusion that their program is 1-2 years away from the CFP for any coach.
They had a nasty fan base at the bowl game in Houston I went to. Standing O for a player that got kicked out the game.
Pretty funny for a team who lost their HC to the NFL after a 7-win season
Beavs lost a head coach to the NFL with 5 wins after the ’98 season.
Haha…..thinking the same!
Baldwin’s stock in FCS crashed after 2019 season when Wilcox was going to replace him as OC. Landed at Cal Poly based on his reputation at Eastern Washington. They’re a really weak 1-5 now with major issues.
https://twitter.com/carterbahns/status/1452717582314704896?s=21
Looks like Julian is probably out for the year. Mannnnn
Terrible news. Best defender out.
Any idea if/when Jaden Robinson will play again?
Didnt we bring in Ian Massey for Safety depth? Havent heard his name much this year
Not surprised (it looked bad, and there’s only 5 weeks left in he regular season) but super disappointed.
I wonder if he could be in play for a bowl game though. Guessing he would be unless he needs surgery.
Hope he can be on the sidelines for home games at least, give advice to DBs?
They need to explore stem cell and PRP. Doing that for my back in a couple weeks. Stem cells from my own body (hip and love handle area). Suppose to work magic for basically everybody part. Could be tip top in a few weeks
Lmk how that goes man. Good luck!
Had both done for knees. Stem cells worked for about 4-5 months and didn’t hold…cost around $9500 for both knees. Just had PRP and prolotherapy for left knee $2500 but still too soon.. Make sure they do imaged guided injections. Had mine done in Portland and Oregon City. Good luck….
Doing mine in Beaverton. I really
Hope it helps long term. They told me it should be a good 40 years if all goes well
Do you have any eligibility remaining? How is your backpedal?
Saw Steph Curry posted some compliments about GP2, said his defense gives them an edge out there. Looking like GO2 might hold onto that 15th roster spot?
GP in top 50 of NBA 75TH anniversary list.
Baylor, Musgrave and keobounamm won pac 12 player of the week award. Nous offensive lineman of the week. Kind of the unsung under the radar player on the Oline. Love to see the Oline get some recognition.
How many o line starters will be gone next year?
Pickem games are selected.
No Wed/Thurs games this time.
Sure glad I’m not a Saints fan. The drop off from Breeze to Winston is jarring to say the least.
Fan vote for Most Versatile Player in College Football! Jack needs a lot of help!
https://www.louisvillesports.org/paul-hornung/award-poll/
If Colletto doesn’t win, that award is a joke
Colleto needs to punt and kick a field goal — that’ll wrap it up for him for sure!
Yeah the current vote Snead ONLY receives and returns kicks…..Jack returns, intercepts, runs, and catches — anything else?
*top vote
Tackles, scores TDs…apparently hits on MILFs on tv…
Blocks!
Way behind! Needs more than help, he needs a miracle!
Smith says statistically Cal is the best defesnse in the conference if you just look at conference games. I don’t think it will be as easy pf game as some here think.
Smith also said we couldn’t run against Utah ..sooo….
He said we couldn’t run for 300 yards like we did on WSU.
We ran for 260 yards. Smith talks up the opponent and then let’s his players performance dictate if he was right or wrong. We have a power running attack. We have a similar model from when Harbaugh was at Stanford. We are 1 QB and defensive secondary away from being the outright best team in the conference. Some of the throws Nolan makes me wonder if he has to take some off of his throws and that’s why they’re wobbly coming out. He’s used to slinging in the passes and that’s where he gets drops.
So not 300?
Smith is mr nice guy and is playing mind games. I like him saying that about cal though. The team looked unprepared to start the Utah game. I hope they take things more seriously from the first snap and show they are clearly the better team.
Yeah but KW said we have the best offense in the conference. Great offense beats a great defense in the modern game where it’s basically touch football.
Also, Cal has a horrible offense. They’ve scored 164 points and given up 165…should be a blowout.
I know but our defense also can’t stop anyone so I doubt they blow them out. They haven’t blown out anyone besides Idaho. I would love to see a blowout tho.
Zero concern about this game. Easiest game in conference imo.
Now I’m worried
Colorado says hold my beer.
Are they though? I’d say Colorado is an easier game (actually it’s zona). They haven’t scored
More then 14 in any game except Zona and Northern Colorado.
Colorado is worse, but the altitude is always a wild card.
Colorado is much worse Arizona too but we don’t play them.
Hey now the defense was amazing after mid second quarter. Tough field position after fumble to end half. Two huge goal line stops. They gave the offense a chance after they stunk it up.
He also knows statistics don’t tell the whole story. I think he is trying to promote respect so that preparation is follows. Don’t respect your opponent? Don’t prepare? That’s a great way to get embarrassed.
OSU should win because they’re better overall. If they prepare, stay focused, I see an in-control win without a lot of drama.
BUT, entertaining in the winning sort of way….
Spot on^^^^
Congrats, Nuc.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1452810528464650240
I am truly humbled to win the inaugural COTT award. I credit every Beaver team from 1994 to now and all the crushed hopes and dreams of Beaver nation who channeled from my heart to my fingers Saturday night. Without negative yard punts, turnovers during a redzone push, dropped touch downs, zebra abuse, giving up 4th and 32 I could never have won this award. Thank you to all the voters who are my kindred at heart.
Shouldn’t you credit your proud parents too? Did you get a beaver trophy too?
And “The Academy”
My parents, my grandparents and my great grand father! Although only my parents truly suffered.
Don’t forget pass plays where the receiver caught the ball, fumbled it, and the ball either:
1) rolled out of bounds
2) inexplicably, landed in another Beavers hands (for a first down)
Absolute bread & butter play for decades. =D
Unless it fumbled into the end zone and was turnover. Damnit Catchings.
Shouldn’t Jack get the lifetime achievement award for that?
Hahahaha…check out my comment: https://twitter.com/AdamsonAshley/status/1452320054809350149
This might be the best season ever at AB. Not sure I ever laughed more; plus we have a good, fun team.
And without any 2am music downloads from Jack.
(still miss him)
old yeller bailed as well, which is also a bummer
Your’e welcome.
People who cancel their support of AB are dead to me. Sorry.
Only did it when it turned into a coarse political shit show. Was thinking of returning now that its back on track. Thanks for the gentle reminder.
Chip has Ryan Gunderson’s back, When asked if he could have challenged a missed FG call that could have made a big difference last Saturday vs quack, said,
“You can,” Kelly said, “but there was nothing during the game where we got anything from the booth, there were no replays when [quarterbacks coach] Ryan Gunderson’s up top [in the press box], but he’s not gonna tell me to challenge anything unless he sees a replay itself and there was nothing that was spit back to him where he could have gotten any jump on it.”
Gotta respect Chip here; course I always enjoyed Leach too, so there’s that.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chip-kelly-contends-officials-blew-175427113.html
Injury update from the GT:
John McCartan …hasn’t been able to practice in his return from injury and isn’t close to playing.
Isaac Hodgins…has not yet been ruled out for the season,
Jake Levengood … could play this Saturday
Simon Sandberg and Makiya Tongue…are expected back versus California
Jaden Robinson…is out for the season
Alton Julian…isn’t expected to return this season
Some good news there, Sandberg, Tongue, and Levengood……any one of them has potential to make a difference.
Hodgins would be a nice body to have back in the rotation. Pretty impressive osu ran all over the Utes without their starting lg and probably their best blocking WR.
OT: Didn’t realize Gary Payton was coaching college basketball in Oakland.
“Payton is the new men’s basketball coach at Lincoln, which has launched collegiate athletics for the first time in its 101-year history, and he is determined to make a lasting impression on the young players at the small school in his hometown of Oakland, California.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2021/10/25/gary-payton-new-college-basketball-coach-lincoln-university-oakland/8541827002/
Damian Lillard’s little brother is on the team, and says: “With him, there’s going to be structure. He’s going teach you not only on the court how to be a man but off the court how to be a man, and he’s just a good role model for all of us to have in our life at this time.”
That’s a bit surprising, I thought Payton had some issues with domestic violence or something similar?
I wish him well, it can’t be easy starting a program from scratch. It will be interesting to see how he fares with play calling, adjustments, and recruiting.
Smith noted some coaching connections to Cal.
Keith heyward is the linebackers coach.
He played against Wilcox and Sirmon the d coordinator.
Geep chryst son, Jackson was on the team as a walk on. Brother of Paul, who was the o coordinator for smiths first two years.
Wilcox will be a future d coordinator candidate when Cal fired him.
Jackson Chryst is also a former OSU walk-on.
How did Heyward fall from grace after being a potential future Nike DC at one point?
Wilcox makes $3 million a year. I doubt he’ll go back to being a D-coordinator unless some big name school decides to offer at least half of what he makes now.
If he gets fired at Cal, what D1 HC jobs will be offered to him? He may get a G5 opportunity, but that’s about it.
He will have plenty of offers to work as a DC if/when he is let go from Cal. The main barrier for him joining OSU will be if we can afford him.
That’s what I’m pointing out. There’s a negligible chance he comes to OSU as a DC because A) we pay Tibs 600K a year and couldn’t afford to shell out $1.5 million for a coordinator, and B) JW is a Duck at heart.
As far as DC, I could see Texas making an offer. Oklahoma hired Grinch from Wazzu a few years back; it was a good hire.
Best comp would be Derek Mason, who was a very good DC at Stanford when he slowed down the Ducks under Chip Kelly when no one else could. He went to Vandy to become HC at around $2.5M to $3.0M per year depending on which year you are looking at. He is now DC at Auburn at $1.5M annually. He can bring back his reputation, earning a good living and not have to deal with HC headaches.
Mason mike become a HC again sooner than he thought if Harsin gets fire due to vaccine mandate.
State of Alabama has a vaccine mandate?
Or is this an Auburn specific thing?
Good question, had to look it up
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32473672/auburn-football-coach-bryan-harsin-declines-disclose-vaccination-status-mandate-deadline-looms
This is the exact model I called for. Smart, legit 3-stars, etc. I called it the Minnesota Twins small market model back then. But we’re finally executing on that, and sure enough, it works. If you can’t join them, beat them some other way.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1453008004610199561
Riley 86’d you
Better than him 69ing me!
Ha
Neat deal…..
Wilikers. 69 is a neato idea.
I haven’t paid much attention to bowl prestige since the Beavs haven’t been to one in ages, but is this really the current ranking? The Las Vegas bowl is above the Holiday Bowl??
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/10/26/pac-12-bowl-projections-oregons-fate-is-everyones-fate/
Surprised me too. I always thought Holiday was the tier just below Rose, followed by Alamo, Sun, Emerald, Vegas and Rice Krispie Treats.
I remember the Alamo jumped the Holiday, and Holiday dropped to the old Sun Bowl position (I think?), but I don’t remember the Las Vegas bowl rising like that. When did this happen and why?? Las Vegas sux!
I’m all for a Vegas trip if they go there. It’s hard to be snobby about bowl games as a Beaver fan, but i have no interest in traveling to El Paso or San Antonio for a game. But Vegas with their new NFL stadium definitely one i would travel to. Same with a Holiday or Rose bowl trip.
Agreed. The LV bowl played in that crappy stadium in the desert in December when it’s usually very windy. I wonder if they’re moving from that old stadium to the new raiders stadium. If that’s the case, that would be sweet.
It’s in the Raiders stadium starting this year and going forward.
I havent been there yet, but I think it’s walkable from the strip if you’re staying down towards the south end. like Mandalay Bay/Luxor area
It looks pretty awesome. I’ve never seen a stadium that matched a team more. From the outside it looks like an edgey black hole lol
If they play in Vegas you’ll have to come down Angry, and have an AB tailgate.
Might have some pregame fights that put the Raiders fans to shame
I do love Vegas. I bet we get shit odds on any bowl game we get too. Good for me!
from wiki:
To heighten the profile of the game with its move to Allegiant Stadium, the Las Vegas Bowl announced a new, five-year, alternating tie-in between the SEC and Big Ten beginning 2020. An SEC team will play the Las Vegas Bowl in even-numbered years, while a Big Ten team will play in odd-numbered years. The conference not playing in the Las Vegas Bowl will play in the Duke’s Mayo Bowl (formerly Belk Bowl).[2][3] The Mountain West moved its top selection from the Las Vegas Bowl to the newly-established LA Bowl)
So aside from moving to Allegiant Stadium, it is no longer a MWC opponent but alternating SEC/B10 team
That’s the way it used to be in terms of revenue for the respective bowl game. Rose, holiday, Alamo…..etc.
Does it say who we’re projected against? Last week it was the Sun Bowl vs. Miami or Louisville.
Holiday bowl would be fun bc the game is at Petco park. It’s a pretty nice stadium.
Vegas bowl now has better matchups. In odd years it’s a big 10 team and in even years it’s an sec team. And of course the new stadium. The other stadium was garbage.
They say having Nike in the CFP would restore the Pac12’s competitive reputation. Sure, we’ll look super competitive when they get blown out the first game.
Especially if that first game is Ohio State
Having the BEST PAC team in the CFP playoffs would improve the PAC’s image. They go w/UO because that’s who they assumed preseason.
Exactly. They make it sounds like the refs should rig games to get Oregon in…oh wait.
If OSU should have the lead and the chance to do it, they’ll really need to step on the throttle and blow the Ducks out if the water if they can. A narrow margin won’t be safe.
I don’t even care if it looks unsportsmanlike, curb stomp them and send a message.
We’ve seen this attitude before. This team doesn’t give a shit.
Honey Beavers?
Week 1 was so bad for the PAC. We were essentially done from the start
Exactly. I think the beavers and Utah will have a big impact on the duckies plans. Some Duck fans already talking about winning out to it appears they never learn.
Last I saw (two days ago) was the Alamo versus either Iowa State or Baylor.
Got to win one more to even think about what bowl game we want to go to
Colletto has now moved from 5th to 4th on the Hornung Award list. Still 3,000 votes behind the leader. I figure if we all vote every 10 minutes he can catch up…
https://www.louisvillesports.org/paul-hornung/award-poll/
These things are dumb. an APB is leading basically. Any analyst could be like…uhhhh no?
Guess you can only vote once per day.. :(
Some notes after watching the game again.
1. Rawls is very disruptive.
2. Forgot about that run where Nolan rolled of a tackler and ran for the first down. That was bad ass!
3. There was a play where Grant broke down and stopped his feet on a 1 on 1 tackle and Wright was flying to the ball and shoved him into the runner. That was pretty cool too.
4. Eldridge had the key block on Baylor’s big run. Completely washed down the defender.
5. TQ is just a beast in the blocking game. He also made a good catch on a tipped pass to keep the clock running towards the end of the game.
6. Watched Brewer some and he looks pretty good. Should fill one of the spots that are lost next year.
7. Looks like Shippen probably the most he has so far. Looks pretty big.
8.Kipper is a liability in pass protection. Responsible for the sack that caused Nolan to fumble on the 1.
9. I never got to see if there was anything with the personal foul. Not saying there wasn’t 1 but generally they show a replay of what they did. Possible phantom call?
10. Musgrave had a terrible false start on their final drive where they were trying to run out the clock. Just a real killer in that situation and can’t be happening.
11. The play towards the end where they got a big pass play to keep them alive I think it was Wright’s guy. Probably a result of playing out of position but another stupid mistake when they’re trying to seal the game.
It’s funny there is 1 guy going through and giving everyone a thumbs down. Must be mike Riley.
I’ve had atleast 1 serial down voter for atleast 2 years. Shit happens.
Haters gonna hate. Its just funny when every comment has 1 down vote. Really affected me. Lol
I sometimes wonder if Angry has a way to downvote every post (which would be pretty funny)? It’s a sadder reality if someone actually takes the time to downvote posts which seems to be what’s happening.
I don’t have a way to do that, and generally speaking I don’t vote on any comments. I’m also not A@A.
I personally never thought you were angry@angry. I’m still not sure what the “multiple Jacks” were all about, but it was entertaining. Thought A@A was banned, but maybe I’m thinking of someone else. Wasn’t it some kind of hack when a post received 50 instant downvotes? Fun times!
I’ve been wondering if that 1 guy that kept getting into it with that duck troll was back. He said he was going to leave but kept coming back. A couple of new guys that showed up around the beginning of the season kind of seemed like they could be him but on good behavior. He kept changing his username.
Angry-is that you? or it could be Grumpy Beav given his non de plume
Still 50/50 on if angry @ angry is angry’s split personality
People thought I was Jack, too. Somehow I get lumped in with the loons.
COTT
Not me. I usually only give thumbs up. World’s already negative enough.
Sorry Grumpy-didn’t mean to cast aspersions. I saw on the interwebs that there’s actually Serial Downvoters Syndrome. It sounds quite tragic–apparently the only way to get your arrow pointing up again involves intense manual manipulation.
Look at Youtube videos of Biden’s press conferences. Sometimes they have a 10:1 dislike-like ratio. You can obviously tell some sort of manipulation is occurring.
https://t.co/Kwdj1wJKJQ
New article up from Nemac about 4 star WR Rashid Williams after his visit this weekend. Seems like he has us very high on his list and is definitely someone to look out for.
That class needs some good receivers. Would love to get another tall 4 star wideout, the last one was pretty good.
We’re going to play against the one who was supposed to fill Hodgins role but flipped to Cal, Trevon Clark
He’s definitely not on Hodgins level. Probably would’ve had a much better career at OSU.
Saw Enes Kanter isn’t making friends lately. He’a calling out Phil Knight and Nike for having their factories in China where he says some of the products are being made by forced labor.
Respect that the guy is willing to burn bridges to stand up for what he believes in while most of the NBA bows down.
https://twitter.com/EnesKanter/status/1453059299056422912?t=TpGdCGqOfJtL1WfKzO6smw&s=19
Finally someone calls out the hypocrisy. I like it a lot, good for Kanter
5 part documentary of the OSU men’s basketball team, Get What You Earn. Should be interesting
https://osubeavers.com/news/2021/10/26/oregon-state-learfield-announce-get-what-you-earn-original-mens-basketball-video-series.aspx
Are fans required to wear masks inside Reser?
Q: Will masks be required?
A: In compliance with Oregon’s statewide indoor face mask requirement that went into effect Aug. 13, attendees age 5 and older at designated university indoor events will be required to wear face coverings throughout the venue, including in seats, except when actively eating and drinking. In compliance with a Benton County ordinance, members of the public attending outdoor events where 6 feet of physical distancing is not possible are required to wear face coverings.
More here:
https://osubeavers.com/sports/2021/8/20/2021-osu-event-vaccination-requirement-faq.aspx
I think it’s still technically required to have a mask to go inside, but I’d say 80% of the people there dont wear masks once inside. And there’s no policing of it or public service announcements that ask people to wear them.
Thanks. That’s what I saw on TV.
Yeah real minimal compliance, people next to me had theirs on so I felt a bit compelled to leave mine mostly on, plus with it being on the cooler side a warm face was fine. But if you really can’t stand masks no one is gonna say anything to you if you don’t wear it.
I wore them for 30+ years at work at my practice…
I predicted the football team would go 4-8 based on doubts I had with our defense and QB. Both have exceeded my expectations and I never anticipated such a phenomenal run game. I’m revising my prediction to 7-5. Looking ahead to basketball I’m much more bullish. I think Silva, Lucas, alitishe and Callou will be difference makers. Expect continued improvements from Hunt and Andella. Also high on Malone, Marial, and Johnson. My biggest concern is a lack of shooters outside of Callou and Lucas. Should be a great defensive and rebounding team. Anything outside a top 4 finish and NCAA bid would be disappointing. Critical they win the early season games vs inferior opponents.
Do you think they’ll lose 3 more conference games or 2 plus the bowl game?
I agree about hoops. Anything less than a tournament bid is a disappointment with the talent on the roster. Shouldn’t lose to anyone outside of LSU in noncon. This is a massive season for WT as he can show transfers that OSU is a place where you can win.
I see 7-4 and a Civil War toss-up. Stanford and ASU look like bad matchups for the Beavs.
Given how they’ve played YTD, I would be disappointed with anything less than 8-4 Beat Cal, Colorado and 1 win versus Stanford, ASU or Oregon. Why is Stanford a bad matchup? That is the game of the three I have most confidence about. They don’t have a great running game and they aren’t going to spread you out with a bunch of speed to the outside. Plus it is at home.
Stanford is a bad matchup because they have tall athletic receivers and tight ends with a wide catch radius. They’re starting receivers are 6’3 and taller. I’d feel good with the matchup if Julian (who’s 6’2) was healthy but we’re playing Arnold (who’s 5-11) in a nickel coverage. I expect a lot of PI’s from the secondary.
I also assume we’re not going to be able to generate pressure on passing downs until Hodgins gets healthy, and that might not be for a while.
You guys are too worried. Cal and Stanford are both wins. Colorado is iffy due to elevation issues.
Thing is, both lines don’t tire out like in years past, and Colorado’s QB play is abysmal. I see us winning by 17+ in Boulder because it’s the one game out defense has a general matchup advantage.
Yeah, we should win it, but I’m a bit nervous about elevation.
Jake Luton won in Colorado
My Gophers crushed CU in Boulder with their dominant OL play and ran all over them with backup RB’s. Sound familiar?
We should dominate this game, unless JS tries to get cute. CU is bad. Elevation will not play a factor assuming it it a quick in and out trip. Go Beav’s!
I think Colorado just fired their OL coach this week too. Not sure if that would mean improved or worse OL play from them going forward, but they have some problems to work out
Cal: definite win
Stanford: likely win
Colorado: likely win
I think you guys are overrating ASU and Oregon, too. We could win out.
You underestimate the power (….or lack thereof) of the riverboat gambler!!!
I think all of those games are winnable. I predicted at least 8-4 and winning the PAC north.
Stanford and ASU give me the most pause right now but there’s reason for optimism there too. OSU doesn’t have a history of capitalizing on opportunities against Stanford, but with their new mindset, maybe they finally will. OSU is the better team and should win. Time for another streak to end? Does Stanford tackle well? OSU’s run game should look familiar to Stanford, who did similar things for years, so maybe there D is well prepared?
ASU obviously has an athletic QB obviously and could pose problems, but OSU gets them at home and ASU will have gone to SEA the previous week to play UW, then back to Phoenix, then Corvallis, all within 7 days. Not long flights, but a fair amount of travel nonetheless. Reser should be rocking with a good game time slot.
I am least worried about Cal, Colorado, and Oregon. The only reason Oregon makes me nervous is if they haven’t lost by then, the conference will want them to win the CW for the CFP opportunity. I hope they lose to UW and Utah, so that head to head, OSU compares better than UO, and that UO, clearly out of a CFP race, won’t get preferential refereeing at the CW.
I really think Smith may have learned that playing scratch tickets is not for investment purposes. I certainly hope so.
Lots to watch for in the coming weeks.
If the Washington schools take care of Oregon, and the Beavs trip up, the Apple Cup may decide the North.
I think you underestimate Justin Wilcox and overestimate elevation.
Like Julian’s attitude RE his injury: , “Just another speed bump.”
Also, in the @ CAL game graphic only has one #8 on it…the staff is learning faster now, good sign.
Time for a check up on my Dumb Prediction: 9-3
– Beavs win all 3 non-con —> 2-1
– Beavs go undefeated at home. —> 4-0 so far
– Beavs road wins are Purdue, WSU and USC —> 1-2 Ouch
– Turnover ratio is 12 —> 2
– Defense allows under 350 yds per game and les than 175 yards rushing —> 392 total ypg, 117 rush ypg
– Less than 50 yards of penalties per game —> IDK a good way to look that one up
– Defense red zone is 2:1 FG attempt to TD —> IDK a good way but this ratio is good from my gut.
– Offense averages 425 yards per game. —> 446 ypg
– 5 receivers over 500 yards —> 0 so far, 0 on pace.
– 2 RB over 600 yards —> Baylor at 830, Fenwick on Pace.
– QBs combine for over 3500 yards —> Yikes, not close. 1400 or so.
– Everett Hayes makes a 50 fg and makes over 85% of attempts. —> I don’t think he has attempted one that long.
– 2 special teams touchdowns —> Well close last game!
– Defense has 40 TOL/Sacks —> 42 so far. Nice. Only 13 sacks though.
– Defense has 20 turnovers —> 12 so far
– Smiths in game gambles pay off 3:1 —> Uhhhhhhh, no comment
– Oregon crushes our dreams of a conference championship game —> pending but looks good so far?
– WSU forfeits at least 1 game —> Nope but did lose their coach and a bunch of hte staff
– 4 players get drafted. —> Pending
– A TE goes over 500 yards—> Not looking good. One of them needs to average about 80 ypg now.
I can’t see 4 players getting drafted
Wright, Roberts, Eldridge and Baylor? Granted only Eldridge is a “senior”. Beyond those 4 I don’t see it either. Maybe Bradford, but not likely. Also, Teagan, he could be drafted if he decided to go pro. None of them jump of the page though as top 3 rounders at this time
I don’t think Roberts or Baylor are considered big nfl prospects.
The strength of the run game surprised most of us.
Penalties: 67ypg; given that the highest penalty yard games were wins, I’d say it’s strategic to get lots of PI.
http://cfbstats.com/2021/team/528/penalty/offense/split.html
Red zone defense: 80% scores, 56.7% td and 23.3% fg.
http://cfbstats.com/2021/team/528/redzone/defense/split.html
Hayes: long of 42, no 50+ attempts.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/4570473/everett-hayes
I’d say it’s strategic to get lots of PI.
I think you’re right.
Can’t find it, but pretty sure Tibs/Blue have indicated they are fine with some PI’s. Often makes sense if it prevents a TD.
‘Defense has 40 TOL/Sacks —> 42 so far. Nice. Only 13 sacks though.’
How many pressures/hurries?
I’ve seen plenty of arguments making the case that sacks, while dramatic, aren’t as important a metric
I counted hurries/contact in the Utah game and it was way higher than I thought, 14 total wit 11 of them in the second half. Rising is really good at feeling pressure.
Agreed.
Beavs had 6 qb hurries vs UU and did what they needed. 32 hurries on the season vs 15 for opponents. & FF are better than sacks.
Sort of off-topic:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32459767/inside-nick-rolovich-downfall-washington-state-covid-19-vaccine
Interesting back story…
Cliff’s notes?
Dummy from Pullman leaves 3 million on the table because he gets his news from Facebook bots and Twitter trolls.
Haha. Yep.
Oh well. His problem.
He should have gone for a DoQtor’s note rather than the religeous exemption.
So you believe whatever a professor says as true? I mean it’s not like them to take a political stance, right?
Rolo could be an idiot that was stuck on the conspiracy’s. He also could be concerned about side effects which to me seems like a possibility.
And to expect him to discuss his religious beliefs with some professor is strange to me. From the sounds of it, the professor is setting the table for a defense from the lawsuit Rolo filed.
This professor def has a goal as most do. Especially to go public with an internal discussion says a lot to me. I bet Rolo is really glad he didn’t discuss his true beliefs with this attention seeker.
Yes I usually listen to professionals and people who excel in their fields, you know…like doctors.
Politics don’t make vaccines work.
Where did anyone say that vaccines don’t work? And on the subject, what would you consider working? Efficacy that fades after 8 months?
All I was saying is don’t take too much stock in what a paid professor says who set up a vaccine program WSU. Seems like he may be trying to support his reputation and ego. Again going public about a “private” conversation tells me a lot about what he is trying to accomplish.
The flu vaccine lasts 6-8 months.
I will assume that is an answer of what you consider working. So we’ve established both the flu and COVID vaccines work using your 6-8 month timeline.
So then we look at other factors like side effects and that’s where things get interesting. The flu vaccine and COVID vaccines work much differently. COVID shows much more severe side effects at a higher rate. So I can understand where the hesitation in taking it comes from. Especially for a younger healthy person. If folks are saying we have to take this every year like the flu vaccine then it becomes an even bigger issue.
This is coming from someone who got jabs for the Flu and COVID. I think ignoring side effects and attacking people who have hesitancy towards taking it is wrong. Let’s make it safer with less side effects. My understanding is with this type of vaccine it is much easier to change it.
Vaccine efficacy as assessed during clinical trials is different from viral effectiveness, which reflects how well a vaccine performs in the field. Viral effectiveness depends on the level of infectious pressure exerted by the viral population, primarily determined by the level of immune selection pressure exerted by the host population.
Why is effectiveness only 3-8 months? Similar to the Influenza and Enterovirus vaccines, the viruses are highly mutable, and there were significant mutations in circulation before the vaccines were rolled out (alpha, gamma, beta strains).
We’ve treated SARS-CoV-2 more like the Influenza rather than the Enterovirus: mass vaccinate all risk cohorts as opposed to target groups. Difference is that the Enterovirus is nearly irradicated in the US; Influenza is not. We now have to live with SARS-CoV-2.
Interesting points that you bring up. I would say COVID seems more transmissible than Enterovirus. There was never a good vaccine for Enterovirus, but it’s disappeared because of better hygiene and people being more cognizant because of COVID.
I don’t think it’s the mutations as much as a big majority of the population took Phizer and it waned after 8 months. I am one the folks who took it, but recently. Viruses typically get weaker overtime because their goal isn’t to kill the host. So mutations aren’t always a bad thing.
Moderna seems to protect great and that’s not trial data as you are saying, it’s current data.
That being said, side effects are real. Depending on your own health and what you know about yourself, that should be the driving force.
I am healthy, young, and I took it because I had a friends Dad pass away. My friend hasn’t gotten it and likely won’t. At the end of the day, you should be able to choose if you want someone to inject something in your arm. I don’t think that’s extreme or controversial. It doesn’t make them a good or bad person. Be friends with vaccinated and unvaccinated, it doesn’t say a thing about their character.
“Viruses typically get weaker overtime because their goal isn’t to kill the host. So mutations aren’t always a bad thing.” Viruses are not sentient beings, according to germ theory. Mutations are stochastic in nature and occur by chance. Now, with SARS-CoV-2, there are 1273 amino acids that make up the spike protein (which is what the vaccines tells cells to replicate using mRNA). If there are 4 distinct amino acids, that equates to 2626114239841 combinations that the spike protein can have. Like you said, not all mutations are deadly or more infectious (in fact, relatively very few are) but even if there are 10 that completely evade the vaccinal antibodies, that can cause problems. Reason being is that the timeline for an average mutation is 25 minutes in the US, and Pfizer claims they can roll out a new mRNA vaccine in 95 days. That’s simply too long if a deadly, infectious mutation is generated.
The main reason why later generation viruses become more infectious but less deadly is because people who contract the deadliest strains typically isolate themselves, and mostly prevent community spread. This why early strains appearing in China (where people were falling down in the streets) never really came here to the US.
Also, Moderna’s concentration is ~4x that of Pfizer. This offers longer lasting “immunity” but there are more adverse events associated with heart inflammation. Moderna’s technology is largely reverse engineering of what Pfizer has been trying to accomplish since it started developing general coronavirus vaccines in the late 90’s.
“As of Thursday, the WSU system had granted 340 of 436 religious exemption requests for the five physical campuses, while 36 were denied and 60 were still being processed“
I’d say the door is open for at least 36 potential discrimination lawsuits.
Also of note, football team has 93% vaccination rate. So the unvaccinated (7%) are allowed to stay on the team?
I’m no lawyer but on the surface I’d say Rolo has a case.
WSU would have more of a leg to stand on had they drawn a hard line in the sand and not allowed any exemptions.
Yes, you can stay on the team so long as your go through weekly (?) testing.
Religious exemptions are granted based on the sincerity of said beliefs. Seems like if you frame it right, the state will grant an exemption.
Catholics often claim that they believe that the use of stem cells during the vaccine R&D phase is immoral. I know several who have won such exemptions based on that argument.
The state doesnt consider athletes to be employees or under the same mandate, so them staying on isnt comporable
If I’m reading that correctly, that’s a high exemption approval percentage. I’m not sure how stringent the requirements are, I know many exemptions were approved in Oregon even “non-traditional” religions.
That’s my biggest gripe with all of this. Why can’t Washington State just be consistent. Instead they choose to battle it out with a high profile coach. I don’t care either way just be consistent which it’s clear they haven’t been.
Who reviews these cases? How do we ensure that they don’t have any biases? Doesn’t seem possible.
What are they being inconsistent about?
Exemption applications are blind. Those reviewing have no idea who is applying
I am talking about the folks that are reviewing it. Who is vetting those folks? Who is preventing them from applying personal biases to their review? Like I said I don’t think there are any measures preventing that from happening. Wouldn’t be surprised if out of the 36 denials, the majority were from the same reviewer.
You can probably ask the department doing reviews or a state representative to supply criteria for reviews if your curious. More useful than making baseless, but controversial and sexy, supposition.
Baseless? Do you agree that a human is reviewing these cases? If you do, then my argument is pretty simple. Typically, the govt will outline the requirements in a simple way, with a lot of gray area. They will then require the reviewer to approve or deny based on their personal (professional) opinion. If you can’t see how that would go awry then we will never be on the same page and you have it all figured out.
Someone above mentioned that Oregon has been way more lenient. What are the reasons? Was it the actual qualifications or who was reviewing it?
https://twitter.com/wilnerhotline/status/1453335651009515523
“#WSU set up a meeting between Rolovich & renown immunologist to ease his concerns.
He asked if Bill Gates was involved in the vaccine.
Nothing about religious concerns.”
Thanks.
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Hope this goes through… the connection is kind of sketchy what with me being dead and all that entails.
Beavs will easily roll against demoralized Cal team. Their players will go into self protection mode and go though the motions. Best case 4-8 record doesn’t save Wilcox’s job.
PS: Haven’t seen Jack around here must still be alive.
You seeing clouds or flames coach?
That dude is seeing lucy in the sky with diamonds
Vegas line hasn’t moved so even the pros think it’s a good line.
The beavs can’t afford to let cal stay close. Need to come out firing in the first half. Punch them in the mouth first instead of taking punches like last week. Keep attacking the edges with speed. Make them play disciplined defense. That’s where the beavs can gain a big advantage.
I think cal is the toughest game of the next three. Colorado is clearly lost, and Stanford doesn’t have the offense to keep up.
Interesting. Very surprised it hasn’t moved. Gives me more confidence that the Beavs will win… don’t know why but it does.
@Angry… Did you invest in Shiba at all and what are your thoughts on these Altcoins? Shiba went on a tear today and doesn’t seem to be slowing.
No I have no interest in that, and I have no feel for crypto right now. It seems like a false bull run, but I’m not sure.
Kishu inu I’m hoping is the next doge/shiba.
Really hope ethereum goes on a tear with eth 2 coming up
Interesting, thanks for your point of view. I thought you were following Crypto pretty closely but that may have changed.
IMO, I think it’s inevitable that crypto is the future. I encourage everyone to buy and hold.
As far as Shiba goes, it’s looking like it will continue to gain. Especially when Robinhood lists it. There is a ton of support.
Cris, thanks for the heads up. I will take a look, Doge and Shiba have been super profitable for me.
I do follow it closely, but I only get involved if I have a strong feeling. I keep my base position at all times and then just add/subtract based on charts + instincts.
Should I out the serial down voter?
I say yes
Does anyone really care?
Ain’t me
The thumbs are meant to be anonymous. If we don’t want them to be anonymous then add a link on each that shows who did it. I personally don’t care either way, but keep it anonymous for everyone or make it public for everyone.
Any particular reason for outing voters? It’s easier to put thumbs on the comments you agree or disagree with rather than having to post replies on each. Anyone who feels strongly one way or another can always post if they wish.
No I could care less, but people seem puzzled and annoyed by it. So I could out the serial down voter if people want to know who’s doing that.
What about the cereal down voter? I’m guessing Tony the Tiger.
Only if it’s Riley
My best guess it is PHB……
PBH…..
PBR…
I think it’s fascinating that someone has that much time to do that (that’s why I wondered if it was some program or bot). I would actually upvote more of the excellent posts here, but I run out of time or have to get on to other things!
Don’t really see why it matters. If anyone is so scared of negative internet points that they don’t say what they think they probably aren’t saying anything important.
Only if it’s Jack.
I say yes, cos’ what the fuck. Either that or get rid of the votes altogether.
Anyone know much about the new men’s basketball commitment? Tyler Bilodeau. Says 6’8″ on his Twitter bio. No listing of stars or anything like that. Not much P5 interest outside of WSU and Boise St. Different positon and quite a drop off potentially from Cruz Davis. Tinkle gonna live by the xfer portal? Outside of Lucas and the 3 coaches’ kids, has much of the high school talent really panned out or even stuck around?
I think living by portal is probably a legit strategy in basketball. You only have to find about 10 legit players and basketball is a sport where guys are rarely physically mature out of high school. Being a premiere transfer destination would be great.
My understanding is that the de-commitment of Davis was the Beavs pulling back interest. I had a chance to watch the kid at an AAU event earlier this year after he committed to Beavs. I thought he was more of a shooting guard than PG with a very slow release. Good shooter but needs a lot of space and time. Below average finisher. Below average defender. I don’t think he’s a P12 talent. Seemed to lack passion and effort but it was AAU so that’s not uncommonly. Had the “I’m too cool” attitude off the court. I kept thinking WT would struggle to put up with this kid and he’d be in transfer portal after 1 year or less. Glad to see we’re moving on from him.
Damn, #30 pg in the country and not a P5 talent? Was nice to have a high recruit outside the coaches’ kids.
That’s my opinion. He’s good but I watch a lot of HS basketball in Seattle area and there’s probably 10 PGs in the state of Washington alone I’d rather have. There’s just so much talent that I give little credence to recruiting ranks. For instance, I saw a kid named Jaxon Nap out of a small school in Washington play several games recently in a showcase. 6-6 SG committed to Montana… Grizzlies are getting a steal. Next level athlete with high ceiling. None of the big schools are on this kid and he’s hardly ranked probably because he’s white, plays on an AAU team that’s not on a shoe circuit, and plays for a smaller HS… but kid is straight up legit. He can shoot, handle, quick/powerful feet/hands, max effort all the time, and could probably win a college dunk contest. Seems to be a great kid off the court too
I appreciate you BeaverPride. Can’t hate on someone who formed their opinion on actually watching these players. So many of us, i included, haven’t been present at the actual games. The fact that you are watching their personalities off the field/court shows me that you are intellectually superior than most folks. Thank you for your insight!
Hmmmm…I like this.
https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-transfer-portal-Oregon-football-Kinsgley-Suamataia-173954640/
I think UT just had an OT enter the transfer portal too.
Come to Corvallis, score points and generate yards!
Here it is:
“ University of Utah offensive lineman Simi Moala is reportedly entering the NCAA transfer portal, 247 Sports reported Wednesday.
The sophomore offensive tackle last played in a game for the Utes on Sept. 11 against BYU.
Moala started 12 of 14 games for Utah in 2019 at the right tackle position and earned All-Pac-12 honorable mention honors that year. He started four games at left tackle in 2020, and started the first two games of this season at right tackle.
Moala….. originally signed with Oregon State in 2015, then served a two-year mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to Tonga and joined the Utes upon his return.
He was rated a three-star prospect out of high school by both 247 Sports and Rivals.“
Something about transfers named Simi rings a bell,
hmmmm…
LOL
I would be curious to know how many commits we had that went on missions then went to a Utah school when they came back. I think they brainwash them while on the mission.
IMHO Mission kids are a huge waste of resources
They pan out alright sometimes. Riley Sharp is a mission kid and hes one of our better EDGE. 3 Sacks and 5.5 TKL on the season.
Have no issues offering players that choose the mission but it does seem like gambling. Not sure about the brain washing but 2 years and life experience leads to the crap shoot. Long projects it feels like. Not only the 2 years lost but then getting them to a playing shape can add a few years. Wonder what the rate of them staying committed are? And what the return really is. Sharp has definitely been a help this season but 4-5 years down the road…has it been worth the resources? I assume that the scholarship only counts when they actually enroll and arrive on campus. So does that mean the year we offer them and they verbally commit, we “burn” a scholly offer since they don’t take one that year but we can’t over offer and get in a position we can’t fulfill? Never really thought about how that all works.
Riley Sharp. Good call. So one out of how many that have been offered in the last 10 years that actually played for OSU.
Poor ROI overall.
May as well only recruit 5 stars that have no intention of attending OSU, maybe one will and he will be a monster.
Semisi Saluni too
One could say he’s on a mission…
BYU is going to land both of these mid year transfers from Pac12 teams.
There has to be some tampering involved. How else do you get 2 guys to flip to you in the middle of the season?
Mormons?
Hot blonde Mormon girls?
In funny magic underpants
He’s 100% going back home. His Twitter is nothing but family and missing a them.
There have been some Moala Beavs in the past, not sure if he’s related or it’s a common Tongan surname. Where’s home for him?
Orem Utah. Its right outside Provo, BYU will get him.
Man Roberts is special. Watching the pac 12 in 60 and he’s just everywhere. Instant reads
Roberts, along with Gumbs and Hodgins was a big part of the reason I called for Tibs D to be top third of the PAC.
One out of three and the D is only close (#6 in scoring D). With the schedule ahead it would be great for either of the missing two to show up in time to shake off the rust before ASU and quack.
Fingers crossed for Hodgins, little valid hope for Gumbs.
Unfortunately, seems unlikely Hodgins plays this regular season. He isn’t even practicing is he?
“…has not yet been ruled out for the season…
That’s the word in the GT couple days ago, not clear if he has practiced…….seems it would be mentioned if he had.
ADDED: loved your “scratch tickets not for investment” remark above!
I’m leaning towards not practicing. Still 5 weeks ahead of us and “hasn’t been ruled out” would suggest he’s still rehabbing. Maybe with 2 weeks left in the season you could say he’s much closer to actually playing. Honestly, it might be more beneficial to take a medical season and come back next year. Can they still play 4 games and get medical redshirt?
Maybe last 2 games as a role player if healthy plus a bowl game?
A bowl game could give an extra month of practicing.
Coukd he still RS if he did that?
Bowl game would be huge to get another month in. Not just for him but all the younger guys as well. Have no idea what the redshirt rules are for medical.
Speights had a hell of a second half. Both guys can ball
angry….just made my annual donation. Doubled up this time so don’t say I never did anything for you!
Also, if you ever make any sandalwood-scented candles let me know.
That is awesome, thank you.
I don’t make candles because the only material I’ve tried (beeswax) was very difficult to work with. I don’t like paraffin. Might have some sandalwood EO, though, and if so I can make some soap. I’ll check tomorrow. Need to make some pine tar, too, for winter. I forget if you are one of the people who liked that bar, but I’ll notify here when I make it.
Sandalwood soap sounds intriguing. LMK. I’m not really interested in pine tar, though.
Count me in for a bar of pine tar. You make great soap Angry.
I get enough pine tar outside my back door…
That sap is hard to get out of beards
TMI CJ.
Rewatched the second half vs Utah. Baylor’s patience and footwork at the line is impressive, reminded me of JJ and Quizz, but he runs angrier. Loved the hand down to scrap for the first and dragging guys 20+yards to the goal line. Nolan looked like he wanted to win, that ball to Tyjon was perfect and Nolan made some clutch conversions in crunch time. Loved the sweeps and motion. Defense has me intrigued with that 1/6 3rd down performance in the second half. Still had some fuck ups, but they are improving and gaining confidence, but they have to build off those stops and continue the trend. However, two goal line stands vs the Utrs will do that, plus the red zone stops vs WSU in the first half of that game. The team doesn’t quit that’s for damn sure.
On second watch Gould is a blocking machine too. He’s not a great blocker but he’s so fast he gets where he needs to be in a hurry. He’s always one of the first guys congratulating others on the sideline or on the field. I bet he ends up a captain.
Never really thought a wr had to be a great physical blocker, awesome when they are but often just getting in the way and redirecting a defender is enough to open things up
James Rodgers could do that and spring his Bro. I remember one play he blocked a guy, got knocked down, and celebrated emphatically on the ground as Quizz went by for another several to 10+ yards.
Watch the Lowe run highlight. He catches up all the way across the field and screens off a lb. Dude is next level fast.
https://sports.yahoo.com/highlights-oregon-state-football-snaps-035014681.html
This link at 1:43. He must close a 10 yard gap on Lowe street go is one of the fastest guys on the field. Guys fire.
Baylor and the Rodgers brothers are cousins. Maybe that’s why?
Are they really? Fun fact. I had no idea
Colleto has moved into second place now on the Hornung Award list. Still 2,500 votes behind.
https://www.louisvillesports.org/paul-hornung/award-poll/
Gotta get the PAC voting to have a chance. Go Twitter go!
He has a decent chance of catching up. When voting opened for this one on Oct 15th, Colletto wasnt on the list, so the other guys got about a 10 day head start. It took a Beaver fan suggesting to the award group that Colletto should be on the list before they actually added him. And now he’s already up to 2nd place, but with a sizable margin to catch 1st.
Votes only accepted through Nov. 12…
Why is Tyler Snead even winning? He’s basically just a receiver?
Popularity contest only?
Idk I watched him in the game tonight and he’s basically just a short dude playing receiver. Not much more impressive than champ
It seems like even a second place finish would help get the attention of the actual voters. It’s impossible to argue with his resume.
Fan vote is only 1 of 18 final votes.
Big whoop
Cooks won the Biletnikoff by one vote, the fan vote
There were also other worthy candidates as always for the Biletnikoff. This Hornung award is for most versatile player. Can’t imagine any fellas being more deserving than Jack especially if Tibs does what’s right and plays him more in obvious pass situations.
Jack still hasn’t passed yet this season. Think we’re saving it for UO or ASU? He has 6 TDs and 2 forced turnovers. Guy is a one man game changer machine
He even teased that idea on that post game show when he was flirting with the MILF host. Although last time he attempted a passing TD, it didnt go so well. I think I’d go with the more sure thing rushing TD vs style points
Ya people were saying he should pass and I told them that last time it was disastrous but nobody seemed to remember. Its a good idea if they could execute it well. Like Utah said they know he’s going to run it when he comes in so the defense would definitely be fooled but he just needs to make a good pass.
I just don’t see the need for it. Every team already knows exactly what we’re going to run when he comes in, and they still havent shown an ability to stop it on any play shorter than 4 yards. So why not keep it as a running play, either with Colletto running or blocking, until they actually make a stop?
I don’t really want him to do it in the redzone. I’d like to see it on a 3rd and short and just hit Gould or Harrison on a slant or something.
Save it for UO?????
Brilliant idea. They tried this in the civil war previously with disastrous results.
Last time he tried passing at the goal line he got picked off. The “jump pass” doesn’t really work anymore.
Worked for Derrick Henry…
From the 5 yard line where someone can sneak behind the defense
I’d really only want to see him throw a shovel pass
They would probably work pretty good actually. Specially with Lowe. Run outside and they have to cover or commit to stopping Jack. Not a winning proposition
OT: I’m installing a reverse osmosis system under the sink. Both outlets are taken (garbage disposal, dishwasher)…what are my options? Since there’s the risk of leaks under the sink would this require any special type of power strip?
Probably just a 3 receptacle plug in adapter. Wouldn’t be much different than the plug behind it. If you don’t reuse old plumbing pieces and seal the sink properly, there should be no leaks. Been remodeling kitchens for 20 years, have yet to get a call back for a leak. Changing to a GFI receptacle would remove all concerns about getting shocked.
Can you replace the 2-plug outlet w/a 4-plug outlet on that circuit?
Don’t forget to install flux capacitor in-line before the reverse osmosis filter, otherwise reverse osmosis could exceed the gigawatt threshold and re-ionize the valence electrons of the oxygen molecules in your water, thereby blowing your kitchen to kingdom-fucking-come.
Use an adapter as mentioned or swap 2 gang receptacle to a 4 gang.
GFCI is required in wet locations to meet code. Easy to swap out. Plug and play.
*not an electrician. Know just enough to be dangerous
Pretty cool video on YouTube of Smith talking about going from walk on to coach at OSU.
The Massey ratings have this game close too. 1 point OSU win. Has them winning every game but Oregon.
https://masseyratings.com/cf2021/5970
A 6 pt win @ Colorado? How accurate has Massey been in the past??
Honestly IDK I didn’t know about it until 3 weeks into the season. ESPN fpi has them only losing to ASU and Oregon.
That is interesting. Part that stands out to me is how little points they have Beavs scoring every game. Less than 30, in all of them. That’s not realistic? At least doesn’t seem to be barring an injury to Nolan
He’s going off previous years, lazy reporting
Sean Harlow getting his first ever start tonight for the Cardinals. Just got a holding penalty.
Go Sean! Lol
Getting pointers from Remmers?
Remmers turned “Luck O Da’ Beavers” on its ear. $$$
Did you watching the ending of GB – cards? Both coaches blew the play calls at the end.
He played decent for being thrown into the fire as the center. Crazy ending.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BeaverMSoccer/status/1453907769241714693/photo/1
Hell ya!! Go Beavs
PETA is asking MLB to change the name of the bullpen to arm barn bc bullpen is used to show where bulls are waiting before slaughter…ru kidding me? I support PETA, people eating tasty animals, but this is ridiculous. There’s room for all Gods creatures right here on my plate next to the mashed potatoes.
They should change the name of PETA to STUPID!
Isn’t a barn used to shelter animals that are ridden, milked, and/or turned into tasty meats?
Next, the arm barn will require pronouns…
OT: PETA wants MLBB to change the name of the bullpen to the “arm barn”. Canzano tweeted that “it will always be the bullpen”. That’s kind of how I feel about the Civil War. I wonder if Canzano would agree?
Yep. Always the bull pen; always the civil war.
PETA is made up largely of folks who spend time looking for reasons to be “offended”. As a barn builder I’m offended by the term “arm barn”.
Civil War, Bullpen……always.
As a person with no arms, I’m offended by the term Arm Barn as well. I thought barns were supposed to be safe spaces for all living creatures?
Maybe you’re thinking of the thumb-sty?
Its really too bad Julian is out, but is a potential silver lining more time at CB for Jones as the coaches move DBs around to adjust to Julian’s absence?
We lose very little next year and gain some big peices. Sio should be healthy and ready, Quincy Wright will be in rotation for atleast 4 games, several young pass rushers may be contributing, Martinez may contribute some and Gulbranson will be rehabed and ready to compete. Getting as many young DBs experience would be great to support a potential P12 Title run next year. Our biggest losses will be on the line but I trust coach M to have new guys ready. Our current line is extremely well coached and few of those guys are actually impressive talents (out of high school).
I still kind of wish Jones would be around another year.
There seems to be quite a bit of depth waiting in the wings at OL. Brewer and Fuaga look like capable replacements already (though Brewer’s pass pro was a bit rough last week). Maybe the smaller guys can put on some weight? I’m hopeful Jason White can compete for playing time. He was pretty highly thought of coming out of HS and already has the size to play. Bloomfield and Darling are also ones to watch.
I expect brewer fauga and Bloomfield to replace the 2 leaving after this season. Eldridge really might be hard to replace. That guy is always blocking so hard every play. Really plays with a chip on his shoulder, and I feel like it’s contagious for the rest of the lineman.
I hope Tanner Miller is training with Eldridge. He looks like he could develop a mean streak too.
I think there’s a good chance you wish is coming true. Miller has already taken a few game snaps.
Needs to put on like 40lbs.
Coach M has said he values mentality and toughness over athleticism (which is clear when you look at the depth chart). Hopefully Miller can put on the necessary weight.
I have a lot of faith in the strength staff. They have really done some massive changes
I would not be surprised at all if Kipper heads out too. We have a ton of P12 bodies that are ready for service though.
260-280 (Need work) – Miller, Morano, Quillen,
280 – Buckles, Holmes,
290 – Espinoza
300 – White, Bloomfield, Brewer, Suing,
320+ Darling, Fuaga, Voltin (377? bruh)
Farenczis.
Everyone make sure to cast your vote for Colletto. You get one vote per day, so come back and do it again each day. He’s moved up to #2.
https://twitter.com/angrybeavs/status/1454101102543052807
You might add the voting link to your Tweet. It’s kind of buried under multiple layers of messages.
Good idea.
https://www.louisvillesports.org/paul-hornung/award-poll/
He can run for TDs, he can catch TDs, he can pick off passes on D, and he hunts MILFs. Show me a player with a better resume
Slowly but surely moving up the list…only 2,100 behind now
PHIL STEELE REPORT:
The Beavers have lost both games in back-to-back road situations five consecutive times. These two have split the last 10 but Cal has dropped the last 2. Last year OSU QB Gebbia had a TD passing, rushing and receiving (1st P12 QB s/1996). OSU got 75 yd TD run Jefferson (196 rush) first play but trailed 20-14 H (Cal 317-164 yd). OSU FG, TD open 3Q led 24-20. Cal 32/6 TD drive (after int), 27-24. OSU block punt 14/3 TD 31-27 4:30 left. Cal drive to 10 but int’d at 8. Last time here (’19) OSU scored a TD w/4:41 left in a 21-17 win (+11). OSU’s last 3 wins in the series (‘16, ‘19, ‘20) have all been by 4 pts or less (3-0 ATS). Oregon St lost the opener to a solid Purdue giving up a TD with 2:09 left in 9 point loss but then switched to Chance Nolan at QB and won 4 in a row including a dominating upset of USC on the road and win at home over Washington and were atop the Pac 12 North. They lost at Wash St and last week off a bye were in a great situation vs a Utah team off two huge B2B Pac 12 South wins and Utah scored TD’s on first 2 poss to lead 14-0 and despite a 74/9 drive being SOD at the 1 the Utes got a TD :46 left to lead 24-14 at half. OSU open 3Q 75/10 TD then blocked a punt for TD for lead 28- 24. Down 35-31 Utah miss 52 yd FG 13:26 left and OSU 66/7 TD. Utah 73/10 SOD at 2 6:22 then 50/5 33 yd FG 2:39 left in OSU 42-34 win. Cal opened 0-5 vs FBS teams but did losses by 5, 2, 7 and 7 and last week Chase Garbers moved past Joe Kapp for all time leader QB Rusher at Cal with 10-96. Cal scored on first 5 poss to lead 23-3 H and dominated with 438-104 yd edge in 26-3 home vs Colorado. OSU avg 245 (5.9) rush led by RB BJ Baylor (830, 7.0) and Deshaun Fenwick (332, 5.8). Cal has the edge on D but Oregon St puts up 89 ypg more than their foes allow while Cal’s offensive avg is equal to what their foes allow and the Beavers have the ST edge (#43 vs #95). OSU is 9-3 ATS on the road while Cal is 4-13-1 ATS at home the L4Y.
OREGON STATE 30 CALIFORNIA 23
POSITION BY POSITION EDGES:
WHEN OREGON STATE HAS THE BALL
Oregon State QB/WR’s vs California DB’s: CAL +1.06
Oregon State RB’s vs California LB’s: CAL +0.44
Oregon State OL vs California DL: ORST +1.10
WHEN CALIFORNIA HAS THE BALL
California QB/WR’s vs Oregon State DB’s: ORST +0.16
California RB’s vs Oregon State LB’s: ORST +1.40
California OL vs Oregon State DL: CAL +1.08
MISCELLANEOUS
Special Teams: ORST +2.35
Kicking: CAL +0.90
Coaching Staff: CAL +0.40
POSITIONAL EDGE AWARDED TO: ORST +1.13
PROJECTED BOX SCORE (ORST-CAL)
Projected Rushing: 202-153
Projected Passing: 177-280
Projected Yardage Total: 379-433
Projected Final Score: 29-25
Experience Rankings: 43-35
Team Schedule Strength: 55-40
Las Vegas Line: Oregon State by 1.5
Las Vegas Total: 55.5 Points
+/- Ratings: Oregon State by 3.5
Game Grade: California by 1.0
Computer Yards: California 433-379
Computer Points: Oregon State 29-25
Spreadsheet Prediction: Oregon State by 6
“Projected Passing: 177-280”
Anyone that thinks Chase Garbage will pass for 280 yards needs their head examined.
I think cal will go all out passing and use garbers as their main runner. Beavs are down a couple defenders so it seems reasonable for them to attack the secondary.
And the secondary is awful in pass defense. It’s not very unreasonable.
Depends on third downs…watch the cushions grow and the yards accumulate.
Fine if they keep them from scoring TDs once there’s less field to defend: 10 yard line to back of end zone (Redder Zone?)
I’d bet Garbers throws for 300. Cal will throw the ball to take advantage of our secondary. I’m hoping we can stop them in the red zone. On defense, I’d expect Cal to scheme well against our run and force Nolan to beat them with the pass. I think this game will come down to turn overs and limiting big plays. No reason for JS to go for it at mid field… I’m really worried that JS is going to fuck this game up. I’m sticking with 28-27 Beavs but I could see this going every which way.
Agree.
Just punt the ball on 4th down and make Cal drive the length of the field
Also nervous JS is getting the itch again — too many wins now and getting bored? “Let’s mix things up”Yeah even the players say they have a bend don’t break defense….but the coaches gamble any way — sends the wrong message and is BS.
Third and 1 shovel and pass from Colleto to Lowe for 61 yard TD.
Hell ya!
Cal’s LB’s are garbage. How can they give them a better score than our RB’s?
Baylor is top 10 in the nation in rush yes and TDs and probably avg but cals LB are better. Lmao
Phil also predicted Washington to finish first in the North and the Beavs to finish last. I hope he’s right about a Beav victory, he’s made a career out of coming up with after-the-fact justifications for his incorrect predictions. I used to buy his mag, but more than half the content is recycled from the previous years!
I watched the replay of the game and was trying to watch Jones to see what he’s got. If anyone can confirm but I did not see him out there on Utah’s last drive.
He had a pass defended in the end zone but that wasn’t the last drive.
Haven’t seen them in a while. What happened to the white helmets, or the orange helmets?
Miss me some white caps baby!
Please, no. The white helmets scream “War Daddy.”
wouldn’t mind the white helmets with Benny on the side. I don’t know if they even have an off-white helmet ot match their off-white uniforms?
It is refreshing that the program and the team doesn’t seem to care about the uniforms. Don’t need a pre-game model walking a runway “The pre-game drip.” “Dripping.” Or other shit.
Just go out and run over people….
Looking like the black helmet with the modern Beaver logo.
Here goes….if the beavs bring their A game, beavers win 34-21. Defense has been bend but slightly break but appears to be improving similar to last year’s defense in the final 4 games. Beavers need efficiency in the passing game (175 yds or more and at least 225 rushing) and take care of the ball. Garber is a seasoned QB with some versatility and mobility but he’s not on the same QB level as Rising from utah IMO. I think the beavers have too many offensive weapons that will challenge california secondary and D line.i think Gould might have a breakout game of they give him more touches. Final thought is, which OSU offense and Nolan performance will show up? I think chance Nolan is headed for a big game that is predicated on the run that will give Cals LB and corners fits. Beavers control the LOS and dictate the tempo and will just wear down Cal’s D line. Play soft and you lose so come out and play with your balls on fire.
“…play with your balls on fire.’
Love to see the announcers change up the cliche and beat it it death like they always do:
“Touchdown Beavers! Baylor was running like his balls were on fire!”
“You’re not kidding Bob! It’s as if literally soaked his testicles in lighter fluid, and the handoff ignited them. He. Was. Gone! Let’s go to our sideline reporter.”
“Guys, I’m told the team managed to spray Baylor’s testicles with a fire extinguisher once he reached the sideline. Coach Smith said they’re used to this and Baylor will be ready for the next series. Back to you!”
COTT………….hands down!
Going to the duck game with some friends and my wife today. If you never hear from me again I wouldn’t shut up about Nike Money, avoiding sanctions and uniforms.
It’s always a winning strategy to go someplace planning on being a wiener. Have fun.
Remember, you will be in the presence of greatness. Be sure to talk some crap to the recruits that will be there. Tell them how the stadium was built on a pile of garbage, literally.
Excited to see all the natties
Why?
My wife is an alum and I have friends that are season ticket holders with really good seats and let us come once a year.
Essentially I love my wife and sacrifice. Plus all day no kids, yes please.
Would be sweet if CU pulled off the upset of the season.
But, you’ll probably have to suffer a bunch of fans taking a blowout win over a bad team as affirmation of their over-ranked greatness.
They have weird ‘fans.’
At the Washington game we were hanging out after the game by the band waiting to talk to our kid. Dude wearing a duck jersey in the same general area. Someone asks whats with the ugly green gear, dude says with a straight face… my kid goes to oregon, my other kid is here, in the band. Wtf?
Wear your beaver gear as duck fans love it when beaver fans go to games at autzen. You’ll make a lot of new friends today wearing beaver gear. I promise it’ll be worth the effort to show your beaver colors. I’ve worn my beavers gear to a duck game before and just got a very warm and fuzzy feelings from ducks. Lol
Yeah no thanks. Last time I was there a drunk dude hocked a loogi in my face. I was 8. I told the hosts I would be respectful and only wear colors they have appeared on their uniforms.
Surely they all remember the classic “duck bill orange” uniforms from 2012
Looking at Cal’s PFF ratings, they look like a team who has either gotten unlucky or suffered from horrible coaching. Ratings are solid across the board, except at LB. They have two of the best safeties in the country and the OL is one of the better in the conference outside of one pretty bad OT.
This is going to be a close game, like most of their games have been.
Game thread scheduled to go up 1hr before kickoff.
Cal finally gets the ball to bounce their way — Beav fumble on the goal line propels them to victory.
Cal 31 – Beavs 27
Reversion to the mean. A tale as old as time…
The players all know the significance of win #6, I doubt they’ll come out flat today. That said, Colorado next week is the only game this season where they may not be fully focused especially if they’ve already become bowl eligible.
My guess for today……Bray has finally convinced Tibs to spy a mobile QB; Cal can’t get past 28. Beavs flip Jockitch’s prediction, become bowl eligible 31-27.
Reversion to the mean?……not so fast, the mean is changing!
Remember the team plays for four quarters.
I’m sure Wilcox can scheme some some good D, Beavers run game is superior though. It also appears as if Lowe is being increasingly and effectively worked into the game, which diversifies the run game. Either he or Baylor can quickly pop off the longer runs.
I’d say Beavers by 10 to 14 points.
I almost forgot about the 4 quarters thing.
Ha! Give effort, don’t quit…
Sorry, Beavers get a refocused Cal bears team. Bears eat Beavers for lunch. 38-24 bears.
Go eat boogers.
I called the wsu game. This one doesn’t feel the same. I am predicting a 34-21 win against cal
Hey, that was my score I posted above. Please take another try. Lol
Ha your a smart man….. or I guess we will see. Maybe we’re both terrible at predicting games
Or great at predicting.them?
Line inches up to -2. Amateur bettors driving the line. At a distance, I think think a lot of people think it’s a gimme.
Maybe Cal money staying on the sidelines waiting for more points?
Beavs will cruise. Cal is giving up on Wilcox and it will show. Memorial Coliseum can get really cold when the sun goes down in the second half. I think the place empties out in the 3rd quarter with the Beavs up by 28. Final Beavs 48-20. (Cal misses an extra point for good measure)
Iowa really hocking up loogies vs Wisconsin b-to-b turnovers in the red zone.
Check that as Iowa hocking up turds as a muffed fair catch in the red zone. Third TO in the last 7-10 minutes.
As I recall, Spencer Petras, Iowa QB decommitted ffromnyhe beavers before ending up at Iowa? Serves him right for today’s performance!
Correct. He commited to smith very early on and held until very late in the process
I thought he committed to GA originally? Either way probably would have had a much better career with Smith and Lindgren as his coaches.
Yeah, he was a GA commit
Petras is a victim of the “curse of the Beavo”. As the Beavs get better and better, players who previously spurned the good guys will pay the price in various ways!
Funny that both Michigan teams are in the top 10. Neither has a win over a team with a winning record, but whoever wins today will have a “top 10” win to brag about.
Petras has a gun, but so inaccurate.
GA speciality
Don’t forget to vote. Colletto needs 2400 votes now.
https://www.louisvillesports.org/paul-hornung/award-poll/
Done
Ken Jeong on Gameday…this is pretty funny
https://twitter.com/TJEckertKTUL/status/1454478243453673476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1454478243453673476%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fcollege-football-world-reacts-to-ken-jeongs-college-gameday-appearance
Reminder to Coach Smith: Your punter has been lights out, and a field position weapon.
Just remembered his first name is Luke. After his cool performance from the end zone, “Cool Hand Luke?” “Cool Foot Luke?”
Obi Wan voice over at Reser? “Use the force Luke!”
Commence down votes. Too much cheese for lunch…
Cool Leg Luke.
Not sure why, but the Pickem games this week dont seem to be tracking the scores like usual. Hope that gets corrected
22 years ago the Beavs ended 28 straight losing seasons by beating Cal 17-7. Can we do it again today?
Go Beavs!
Colorado looks pretty trerrible, in all facets.
The lovefest for the ducks from the announcers got old quick.
Is WSU a legitimate threat in the North? Up 14 on ASU right now.
Curious to see how they play the Ducks. Could be a trap game for UO
What are the PAC predictions for today?
WSU@ASU – Cougs surprising early. Will they Coug it?
CU@UO (already looks over)
UA@USC – USC should breeze through this?
UCLA@Utah – ?
UW@Stanford – ? Stanford? UW seems a bit lost.
anyone know if there will be a stream? Sportsurge.net doesn’t look like they have a stream for this one.
maybe get pac12 network? fubo has it I think. Can sign up for a free trial.
Streameast dot live.
Have we had a game this year that was not Pac12 Network? Seems like we’re getting shafted.
There were a few on fs1
A lot of the first 1s were.
Colorado doesnt have a ton going for it at the moment, but I like their freshman QB Lewis. Throws a pretty nice ball and his deep throws seem pretty effortless. Taking his lumps this year but in a year or 2 he’ll be a pretty solid QB for them