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2023: The year of the Beaver? – General Thread

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Angry’s still out hosting the in-laws, but figured it would be a good time for a fresh thread.  Prior one was getting stale and starting to load slowly.

Making this a general thread, so talk about whatever.

In recruiting, the dead period for JUCO and Transfers is over and visits can start happening again.  Expect a few visitors this week that fit that description.

I’m expecting 1 known commitment to happen within the next week.  No spoilers, but fills an immediate need.

Is this coming season the year of the Beaver?(at least in football)

Seems like the football schedule and roster are shaping up to be our best shot to reach a NY6 bowl game in quite some time.

Non-Con vs UC Davis, San Diego State and @ San Jose.   We skip USC (and ASU).  Toughest games will likely be in the NW division with Oregon on the road and UW at home.  Hopefully a bye week will be favorable and land before one of those games.  Schedule is apparently delayed as the league tries to figure out a way to screw over the Beavs chances.  But will it matter?

I haven’t paid much attention to MBB or WBB.  WBB did recently top #10 UCLA, which is nice to see.  But both teams appear to be middle of the Pac this year.

Baseball is still several weeks away, so we’re hitting the dead period as far as I’m concerned.  Will try to keep bringing any football recruiting rumors/tidbits to this thread if I come across anything.

GoBeavs!

 

 

 

 

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    • Ahhh shoot! Wouldn’t quite call him a game changer, yet, but he sure he’d be a great addition. If he keeps developing, watch out!

    • Made by the guy who made the documentary “Watch the Waters”, which proves that vaccines are made from Cobra venom and were designed to infect you and turn you into a hybrid of Satan himself. Really scary stuff and 100% true because it’s a documentary.
      I dont know that I could watch this new documentary. Worried it will give me nightmares. Let me know how it is

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    As a program we are trending up and we solved the first of two problems I was concerned with when we got DJ. The other issue that is holding us back is 9’ers reliance on analytics versus taking the points and going with his gut. I can only hope that he will continue to improve his in game decision making like the elite coaches do over time. Schedule sets up nicely. NY6 bowl should be the target, anything less would be a let down imo.

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      I think this is a group think thing. I don’t think JS is outside the norm of college football in his willingness to go for it on 4th down. I think it has become a talking point in here and then became a problem because we were looking for data to back up the point. I watched a number of teams play this year including those elite teams and they regularly are being aggressive. This is just the Era we are in.

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      We beat Utah at home 2 years ago. Had we got better QB play this year, we very well could have beat them at their place. If DJU is legit, Reser is going to be a very difficult place for anyone to beat us. I’m most worried about UW but at this point, I’m pretty optimistic about all games next year.

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    Made by the guy who made the documentary “Watch the Waters”, which proves that vaccines are made from Cobra venom and were designed to infect you and turn you into a hybrid of Satan himself. Really scary stuff and 100% true because it’s a documentary.
    I dont know that I could watch this new documentary. Worried it will give me nightmares. Let me know how it is

  3. Reser will be raucous for Utah, UCLA, and UW. It will be a different environment than what they were used to in prior years.

    Multiple players remarked this past season on the energy at Reser with only half the stadium, and some posters here said it was loud as when USC played in Reser in 06 and 08 (capacity then was near 43K?). With the new half completed, and standing room tickets, it will only be about 39K, but it may sound louder on the field with the closer seating. The student section has really stepped it up, and even adults are standing apparently. The D will feed off the energy as will the offense when they bust big plays.

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      “ and even adults are standing apparently”

      That’s big news! I used to give people shit about sitting in their asses back in the day lol

      • It’s not that anyone was sitting, but that they complained when you jumped out of your seat in excitement and stood to cheer.
        That got old real fast.

    • So, returning for OSU it looks like:

      Silas Bolden, 5′ 8″
      Anthony Gould, 5′ 8″
      Jesiah Irish(?), 5′ 11″
      Riney Walker, 6′ 0″
      Rweha Manyagi, 6′ 2″
      Trent Walker, 6′ 2″
      John Dunmore, 6′ 2″
      Mikalaya Tongue, 6′ 2″
      Jeremy Vaslin, 6′ 2″
      Jeremiah Noga, 6′ 2″
      Trevor Pope, 6′ 2″

      Looks like the receivers are definitely getting bigger.

      Sturdivant listed at 6′ 3.5″, 4* WR out of HS.

      And maybe a Clemson WR will follow DJ?

  4. Looking at my projected Pac-12 Scheduling our schedule for 2023 could look like this:

    2-Sep at SJSU
    9-Sep UC Davis
    16-Sep SDSU
    23-Sep UW
    30-Sep at Arizona
    7-Oct at Colorado
    14-Oct BYE
    21-Oct Stanford
    28-Oct at CAL
    4-Nov Utah
    11-Nov UCLA
    18-Nov at WSU
    25-Nov at Oregon

    I will keep tweaking the schedule to come up with other potential schedules, but this is my preliminary after getting all 12 teams to line up without conflicts. Hard to do with USC playing @ND October 14th and Stanford playing ND on Nov 25th(Rivalry weekend).

        • Probably the best time to face them before they figure out the new offensive line situation and Penix isn’t settled in with receivers.

          Beavs only need fair to decent qb play to beat them with the defense improvement.

          • I would like it very much if it were the first conference game.

            Both teams should be ranked within top 20, and a victory would help cement ranking and sustain it through the season;

            OSU was well prepped for USC as first conference game and would be for this one;

            Hopefully players are healthy early in season;

            The crowd would be very into this as a conference opener for a refurbished Reser and would be very loud.

        • Here’s another scenario I came up with:

          2-Sep at SJSU
          9-Sep UC Davis
          16-Sep SDSU
          23-Sep at Colorado
          30-Sep Stanford
          7-Oct BYE
          14-Oct UW
          21-Oct at WSU
          28-Oct UCLA
          4-Nov at CAL
          11-Nov Utah
          18-Nov at UofA
          25-Nov at Oregon

  5. I think we will see another decent bump in the recruiting rating for Aidan Chiles when the next revision comes out. Practice reports got him ranked tied with Dante Moore out of the QBs at the AA Bowl.

    • Makes more sense now. Haven’t had many scholarship transfers yet this offseason, so this is one of the few that will open up a spot.

    • “Downey (Calif.) four-star quarterback Aidan Chiles is coming off a strong senior season and he is proving to be one of the top quarterbacks in attendance this week.

      The Oregon State signee has matched up well alongside five-star Dante Moore and has been more consistent than the other signal-callers in attendance with his accuracy downfield and ability to move outside of the pocket. Chiles already saw a recent big bump, but a big performance with his arm and legs this week could push him into Rivals250 consideration.”

      • Doesn’t surprise any of us beavers fans because he committed so early with a hard commit and never waivered to where Rivals didn’t need to use the 5* ratings to “Hype him up” to get more offers from top colleges. He will be pushing BG for backup this season as a true freshman if he can translate his current numbers to the D1 level.

          • You should see some of those with DJU. Def a missed opportunity if we don’t have him run a little bit but shouldn’t be asking him to run nearly as much as Clemson was requiring.

  6. I purchased a shirt from the Jack Colletto NIL shop. Quality shirt, good fabric, well-made. The label tells me it was made in Nicaragua. I have spent considerable time in Nica. It is a beautiful country, lovely people suffering mightily from the corrupt Ortega government and US sanctions. The sanctions barely touch the large Ortega family, the army and the police, but they impact much of the population. I know the garment wasn’t made in a state-of-the-art facility paying a living wage. Nonetheless, I hope the Nicaragua/NIL/OSU/Colletto connection benefits all.

      • Well he’s right, if nothing else it’s a really tacky way to phrase that type establishment. And two of the three people who replied to the tweet said the same thing, so the one guy wasn’t “literally the only who had an issue with it” like you said.

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          Tacky?
          He was the only guy who had a specific gripe about the word parlor.
          The owner of the place mentioned they also do Chiro.
          1 out of 4000 people is a nothing burger. Seriously.

          Imagine going to a pizza parlor and asking for a happy ending? They’d throw you out. Parlor isn’t a bad word, unless you’re some type of desperate weirdo who pays for that sort of thing.

  7. I could see UCLA or Wazzu opting to play Colorado on Aug 26th(Zero Week) to gain a second BYE week. UCLA would get a BYE on Sept 30 before Arizona and Oct 21 before playing @ Oregon State(extra BYE by moving the game). Wazzu would get an extra BYE week on Oct 28th before playing Oregon State in addition to their BYE week on Oct 7th. *Note: I do not have the Conference away games noted on these schedules.*

    OSU
    2-Sep at SJSU
    9-Sep UC Davis
    16-Sep SDSU
    23-Sep Buffs
    30-Sep Stanford
    7-Oct BYE
    14-Oct UW
    21-Oct WSU
    28-Oct UCLA
    4-Nov CAL
    11-Nov Utah
    18-Nov UofA
    25-Nov Oregon

    UW
    2-Sep BSU
    9-Sep Tulsa
    16-Sep at MSU
    23-Sep CAL
    30-Sep Utah
    7-Oct USC
    14-Oct OSU
    21-Oct Stanford
    28-Oct ASU
    4-Nov BYE
    11-Nov UofA
    18-Nov Oregon
    25-Nov WSU

    Oregon
    2-Sep at CSU
    9-Sep Badgers
    16-Sep Nor Col
    23-Sep Stanford
    30-Sep CAL
    7-Oct BYE
    14-Oct ASU
    21-Oct OSU
    28-Oct Buffs
    4-Nov UofA
    11-Nov Oregon
    18-Nov UCLA
    25-Nov UW

    CAL
    2-Sep at N Texas
    9-Sep Auburn
    16-Sep Idaho
    23-Sep UW
    30-Sep WSU
    7-Oct Stanford
    14-Oct BYE
    21-Oct USC
    28-Oct Oregon
    4-Nov OSU
    11-Nov UCLA
    18-Nov ASU
    25-Nov Utah

    Stanford
    1-Sep at Hawaii
    9-Sep Sac State
    16-Sep USC
    23-Sep WSU
    30-Sep OSU
    7-Oct CAL
    14-Oct Oregon
    21-Oct UW
    28-Oct UofA
    4-Nov UCLA
    11-Nov Buffs
    18-Nov BYE
    25-Nov ND

    UCLA
    2-Sep Coastal Caro
    9-Sep at SDSU
    16-Sep NC Central
    23-Sep ASU
    30-Sep BYE
    7-Oct UofA
    14-Oct Utah
    21-Oct Buffs
    28-Oct OSU
    4-Nov Stanford
    11-Nov CAL
    18-Nov WSU
    25-Nov USC

    USC
    26-Aug SJSU
    2-Sep Nevada
    9-Sep BYE
    16-Sep Stanford
    23-Sep Oregon
    30-Sep UofA
    7-Oct UW
    14-Oct ND
    21-Oct CAL
    28-Oct Utah
    4-Nov Buffs
    11-Nov ASU
    18-Nov BYE
    25-Nov UCLA

    UofA
    2-Sep N Arizona
    9-Sep at Miss St
    16-Sep UTEP
    23-Sep Utah
    30-Sep USC
    7-Oct UCLA
    14-Oct Buffs
    21-Oct BYE
    28-Oct Stanford
    4-Nov WSU
    11-Nov UW
    18-Nov OSU
    25-Nov ASU

    ASU
    31-Aug So Utah
    9-Sep OK State
    16-Sep Fresno St
    23-Sep UCLA
    30-Sep Buffs
    7-Oct Utah
    14-Oct WSU
    21-Oct BYE
    28-Oct UW
    4-Nov Oregon
    11-Nov USC
    18-Nov CAL
    25-Nov UofA

    Utah
    2-Sep Florida
    9-Sep at Baylor
    16-Sep Weber St
    23-Sep UofA
    30-Sep UW
    7-Oct ASU
    14-Oct UCLA
    21-Oct Oregon
    28-Oct USC
    4-Nov BYE
    11-Nov OSU
    18-Nov Buffs
    25-Nov CAL

    Buffs
    2-Sep at TCU
    9-Sep Nebraska
    16-Sep Col St
    23-Sep OSU
    30-Sep ASU
    7-Oct Oregon
    14-Oct UofA
    21-Oct UCLA
    28-Oct WSU
    4-Nov USC
    11-Nov Stanford
    18-Nov Utah
    25-Nov BYE

    • Made a mistake(Spreadsheets are fun really)

      Oregon above is Wazzu

      Here is Oregon’s real potential schedule:

      Oregon
      2-Sep Por St
      9-Sep at Ttech
      16-Sep Hawaii
      23-Sep USC
      30-Sep BYE
      7-Oct Buffs
      14-Oct Stanford
      21-Oct Utah
      28-Oct CAL
      4-Nov ASU
      11-Nov WSU
      18-Nov UW
      25-Nov OSU

    • That OSU schedule you listed is pretty great actually.

      Catching Colorado on the road early in the season amd after they will have had a brutal non conferernce schedule.
      Bye week before UW while UW doesnt get a similar bye.
      And the other upper tier conference games flip flop every other week with a lower tier game

      I’ll take that in a hearbeat

    • Looks like he was productive at Wyoming. 6.5 sacks. High motor guy. Didn’t start playing football till he was a HS Junior, so could be have been a bit of an under the radar prospect coming into Wyoming

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        He’s a little undersized. I’m curious how he is in coverage because he played almost exclusively on the line at Wyo.

        According to PFF, pass rush is his best grade; he’s only average in the other areas. He started the year rough, but was consistently good in the second half of the season. Level of competition didn’t seem to matter, as he did just as well against the better MWC OL’s (like Air Force) as he did against others. His hurry ratio and win % against MWC competition were good, not great (though they would have made him the second best pass rusher for OSU if you ignore level of competition effects).

        He looks like solid depth now with good upside because of his inexperience.

        • Looks like he played LB in high school. From his HS tape, he’s explosive and hits HARD. Athleticism won’t be an issue in coverage.

    • The more commits does mean that we’ll also see more transfer outs as well. I’m thinking all the decisions have been made but anyone entering the portal has yet to finish all the steps to officially enter.

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    JS has proven to be very selective on transfers. I went back and counted all the transfers we’ve had so far, and we’ve had 20 transfers in (not counting 2 of them, which never made it) since the transfer portal era began. Out of the 20 that made it, 16 of them made an impact and had significant playing time in first year.

    The only 4 that didn’t were Noyer (although he started his first game, i’d say it wasn’t a huge impact), Sorenson, Tongue and Quillin.

    Here’s the other 16:
    Chatfield
    Fisher-Morris
    Lightbourn
    Lindsey
    Gumbs
    Roberts
    Gebbia
    Eldridge
    Harrison
    Lowe
    Schad
    Bloomfield
    Jones
    Fenwick
    Dunmore
    Griffin

    JS is batting 80% rate. Everyone listed has started atleast 1 game. I’m okay with transfers out and transfers in.

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    Anybody remember which game it was when Smith gave his “we aint done yet” speech in the locker room?
    Trying to track down that video

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      Cats lead for, what? 3 min? But they had the lead when it counts, final 72-69 Cats.
      Terrific game, fun to have Sidney making comments. Gave Beers some credit but also teammates getting her the ball.

      Beavs out rebounded cats 40-28, but TO’s favored cats 11-19. Points off TO’s: Beavs 14, cats 22

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      No way around it, this was a really bad loss for WBB. I don’t know what it is with Rueck’s teams and ball security. Turnovers have been a killer over the past 2-3 years.

      • Most gamblers would have expected the Beavs to drop this one. On the road vs #15 team which had 2 losses overall going in (Beavs with 5, now 6).
        A “really bad loss”?………not so sure, but it was a very bad lost opportunity to follow up the win in Gill vs UCLA.
        Yes, TO’s have been the weakest factor for Rueck’s teams forever, it seems.

  10. Regarding the wr question and possibly no incoming transfers, JS said he expected 2-3 of the incoming freshmen to actually compete and contribute right away. Any thoughts on each of them and which he may have been referring to, ht/wt compared to the guys already here?

    • I beleive Howard and Collins were mentioned. Nikko Taylor is not a freshman, but JS expects him to make an immediate impact as well.

      Freshman seldomly make an immediate impact at WR at any school. Best case mid to late part of the year they’ll make an impact but don’t expect WR1 numbers though. A lot of elite receivers make big jumps So year but if you look up receivers, a lot of them put up mediocre stats Year 1. Here’s some recent Beavs that all went pro.

      Brandon Cooks 391 Fr , 1151 So, 1730 Jr
      Isaiah Hodgins 275 Fr, 876 So, 1171 Jr
      Markus Wheaton 85 Fr, 675 So, 986 Jr, 1244 Sr
      Victor Bolden 62 Fr, 798 So, 461 Jr,542 Sr

  11. Novosad throws good ball but lacks pocket presence and seems slow to go through progressions. Glad he’s going to Oregon and we got Chiles. Based on limited sample size, hard ti understand why Novosad is ranked so high. Seems like someone that impresses in drills

  12. Highlights from the AA game today,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YXkNjlk-Y

    Chiles had some good highlights. Can move really well in the pocket and his mechanics are light years ahead of where they were his junior year. Has nice touch. He’s listed at 195 and looks all of it. Get him up to 210-220 and he’ll really be able to drive the ball downfield.

    Dante Moore is a legitimate 5 star player. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him start this fall.

  13. MBB is already down 9-2, and can’t get shots off against CU’s defense. Can’t defend, can’t rebound. At some point this is on Tinkle, right? Pope is not starting either, haven’t heard if he’s injured or Tinks is playing his “punishment” games.

      • The announcers finally said Tinkle was unhappy with Pope’s defense against Utah. As if any of them have proper spacing on the floor! I read a blurb from someone in the media implying that it’s time to get an Oregon St guy as coach like JS and Canham. Just don’t know who that would be. And the Beavs have scored all of 13 points in the first 16 minutes of the game. 28-13 Buffs.

        • Maybe Gary Payton will want to come back to corvallis and coach. He’s coaching in Oakland somewhere. Community College I believe. Down 15 at the half. Yikes

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            That’s right, he took the job at Lincoln University, which is a four-year school in Oakland. I don’t know if he’s still there. As I recall, it was a start-up program.

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            I can’t see Payton being a good D1 coach. Too emotional, impatient. Ego too big. His big influences are likely his dad, Ralph Miller, George Karl, maybe Pat Riley? Good suite of old school (Miller, Riley) and more flowing iffense (Karl). But i can’t see him putting it together for some reason.

            Assistant with an emphasis on D? Yes.

          • I was reading an article about how Payton’s plan is to take them to D-1 at Lincoln. It will be interesting to see if he gets them there. They just started athletics in 2021 for the first time in the school’s 105-year history. They have a football team also, they played Portland St. this season.

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    I am not a coach. I am not in a position to make a decision in this matter. But it’s beginning to look like Tinkle can only win with talented senior guards that can create. What miffs me most is looking at player’s individually you see the makings of a team. But there has just been zero consistency on offense in Tinkle’s tenure. This year is bleh any way. I say you let the man coach out the season, see if he can pull another miracle out of his rear. Then show him the exit.

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      Think it’ll be hard to develop any of this young talent with the portal. In the old days you’d be happy too have this many young guys that could play 3 or 4 years together and develop chemistry, etc. Now, it’d be surprising if half these guys are still here after 2 years. Hopefully they’ve been putting together some portfolios on some coaches.

  15. Beavers Edge predicting a DB commitment to the Beavs. Not subscribed so couldn’t read article but perhaps this lines up to the commitment Nice Beavs has been talking about.

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    An interesting under the radar player here. Leon Johnson III out of George Fox. 6’5″ WR who was a 1st team All American this season at the D3 level.
    Wasnt on OSU’s radar at all and then yesterday he went on an official visit to Stillwater and was offered by Oklahoma State. Also picked up a recent SDSU offer, although that hasnt been advertised yet.
    When news surfaced of him going to OK State, as OSU fan brought him up and I decided to tweet him out last night.
    Now Coach Cookus is following him. Will be curious if it goes beyond that. I should know a little more tomorrow evening.
    Kudos to OK State for being in the loop on a local kid more than we were. George Fox couldnt be much closer.
    On the downside, only has 1 year of eligibility remaining

    2022 Film link:
    https://youtu.be/kWQCUqPgsQo

  17. For those wondering, Tinkle’s buyout is $1.5M this year an drops to $750K next year if he were to leave for another school.

    He’s owed $11.4 million after this year to the end of his contract.

    I looked around, outside of top assistants, there are not many non power 5 head coaches who would be good fits at OSU if Tinkle were to be fired. I don’t think they could afford to buyout a coach from a power 5 job.

    Ben Howland, the other main finalist for the job when Tinkle got hired was fired from Miss St last year. Made the tourney once and the NIT a few times.

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      Find a high school coach who will adjust to his own players strengths and you’d do better than Tinkle.

      Tinkle can’t coach his way out of a paper bag. Based on his track record so far, the Elite 8 run may be more of a miracle than anything Casey did with baseball.

      Tinkle is becoming an expert at recruiting guys he isn’t able Coach, or recruiting coachable guys that he wrecks by his mind games and blame shifting. I’ve never seen a coach throw his team under the bus so much when it is the coach’s job to prepare a team on offense and defense. All Tinkle says after a game is that we had the plan but guys just don’t execute. Loser coach who loses any locker room by January.

  18. “Chiles followed up his great week of practice with a nearly perfect performance in the All-American Bowl by going 7-of-9 for 171 yards and a touchdown while not throwing an interception on the day. The Oregon State signee’s stat line was aided by Mark Fletcher’s 81-yard catch and run, but you can’t let that take away from the overall command of the game and nearly flawless completion percentage. Beaver fans have a lot to be excited about after Chiles’ stellar showing throughout the week which will likely lead to a bump in his ranking later this month“

  19. The reason UNC Charlotte’s Grant Dubose withdrew from the portal is because he is entering the draft.

    Also, cat is out of the bag with OSU’s recent visitors. DBs Tyrice Ivy(JUCO-San Mateo), Isaiah Jouhnson(ASU) and Kobee Minor(T.Tech) were on campus this week.
    No surprise names as all 3 were guys with announced offers.
    Would lead one to think that TE Jermain Terry would likely be visiting too. Mason Tufaga visited back in HS, so wouldnt expect him to visit again. And then Jake Roberts isnt likely to visit since he’ll probably stay in state.

    https://twitter.com/i/lists/1599892098802913280?t=d8dcDsiwfVTH9yn4-ghgng&s=09

  20. WBB: Yin/yang………just not the same without the Realtor, but nice to have Sidney behind the mic.
    At the half Beavs up 10 on devils.
    Beavs with 9 TO’s so far, but ASU only shooting 18%

    Darn curtain of distraction still allowed.

  21. Once again beers is just too good… great to see marotte figuring things out! Bendu really ended up being an excellent get as a transfer.

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    Why is someone above saying Omotosho is a huge get? He was a 2-star out of HS. Did he massively improve? I see 6.5 sacks for Wyoming. That’s alright, but that doesn’t seem like a game changing player.

    • Beavers had 17 total sacks this year. So that would give him 40 percent of the team total. He also had 34 tackles. Maybe not a game changer but He looks like substantially better than average.

    • Olu is arguably the ideal transfer you want.

      1. a player with both massive upside AND recent production
      2. Has up to 3 years still to play

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      The person who said it, rarely if ever thinks a commit is a bad one. If you want to teach the definition of pollyanna, it’s all of their posts.

    • Some context on Omotosho. Didnt start playing football till he was a Junior in HS. So pretty raw coming into college.
      I’d like to see some more recent film on him rather than rely on older HS film when he barely had a year under his belt.

    • He’s a little undersized. Played LB in HS, but only DE at Wyo, so it will be interesting to see how he covers from our EDGE spot, which is a hybrid.

      According to PFF, pass rush is his best grade; he’s only average in the other areas. He started the year rough, but was consistently good in the second half of the season. Level of competition didn’t seem to matter, as he did just as well against the better MWC OL’s (like Air Force) as he did against others. His hurry ratio and win % against MWC competition were good, not great (though they would have made him the second best pass rusher for OSU if you ignore level of competition effects).

      He looks like solid depth now with good upside because of his inexperience. HS film shows he’s explosive, fast, and hits hard. My biggest concern would be size coming off the edge. I believe our other edge guys have been bigger guys with big wingspans (e.g. McCartan). OO will have to have some good moves to be successful against PAC12 OL.

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    Found Omotosho’s film,

    https://mobile.twitter.com/_oseyio_

    He’s a 3 star player at best. Undersized edge rusher who hustles a lot. Will do just fine vs the non conf and the lower level conference teams. Don’t see a game wrecker. Nothing elite about him. Seems like a better fit at OLB vs a down lineman. Might just be a situational player.

    Upside? Maybe, 2023 will be his 4th year, redshirted 2020, played sparingly in 2021 and played in all games in 2022.

    • He looks ready to play to me. Physical, fast, and good instincts. He’ll get some reps next season for sure. He’s undersized but he is physically strong. I am excited after watching the film.

    • Might comp well with a guy like Kyrie Fisher-Morris. Similar size, just an inch taller and a few pounds heavier than where KFM was when he arrived at Corvallis. Came from a similar sized school(Arkansas State)
      We didnt get to see Kyrie much his first couple years though due to injury and Covid, but he eventually was a solid contributor.

      • Actually, Kyrie was originally an Arkansas commit who ended up going JUCO, and it was OSU and Arkansas State trying to land him at the time.

  24. Was told 2nd hand that Cal TE transfer Jermaine Terry was at OSU this weekend. Guess he posted it to his IG story but that post has since expired, so I never actually saw it myself
    Also, instagram sucks for following recruiting

    • Must have gotten a sizeable insurance policy.

      But this decision means the PAC12 will likely knock itself out of the playoffs next year with the amount of talent at QB coming back. Will have 6 teams ranked again but none who will be able to go undefeated. All the top teams play each other next year.

  25. DJU will be here today—it’s only 11:18. I didn’t attend any classes at OSU until 1 in the afternoon. Of course, they started at 9:00, but that’s another story.

  26. Welp, 1 visitor down. Kobee Minor has committed to Indiana.
    Might explain why i saw a few new follows of transfer CBs by our coaches.
    We’re starting to dip into plan D/E/F guys on the list now.
    Almost might be better to wait till after Spring ball to find guys who enter the portal later.

    • Yikes, bad decision making was already a hallmark for the guy, but this is cringy and will only endear him to the trailer trash duck fans. Anyone outside of NikeU fandom is looking at that and laughing at a guy who is trying too hard to be ‘edgy’. He is silently messaging to the world:”I am a goober who coaches football poorly, and I make even worse life decisions.”

  27. I didn’t realize SJSU will have played a game @ USC before we travel there.

    Should be a good test. They did alright last season.

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        Going back to 2000, every road game against a WAC/MWC team has either been a one possession win, or a loss.

        2000: UNM (W 28-20)
        2001: FSU (L 44-24)
        2003: FSU (L 16-14)
        2004: BSU (L 55-34)
        2006: BSU (L 42-14)
        2008: Utah (L 31-28)
        2009: UNLV (W 23-21)
        2010: TCU (L 30-21)
        2010: BSU (L 37-24)
        2013: SDSU (W 34-30)
        2014: Hawaii (W 38-30)
        2017: CSU (L 58-27)
        2018: Nevada (L 37-35)
        2019: Hawaii (L 31-28)
        2022: FSU (W 35-32)

        Yeesh

  28. TE Jake Roberts ends up at Baylor.
    So alot of our offered guys are getting snatched up.
    Terry and Johnson are the biggest remaining question marks at the moment

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          Maybe if he hadn’t been a little bitch , and had stayed at osu, he would have had the opportunity to to show everyone he had the ‘best arm’…you do realize we were in desperate need of a best arm this past year, right?

          Instead, he ran to Boise, where he flamed out …and now? Bow he’s onto his third school where he’ll compete at a lower level and still insist he has the most live arm, whether true or not, and likely ride the bench, while he tries to learn the playbook, and tell anyone who will listen that he would have been a first round nfl pick if ‘coach didn’t hate him.’

          Cry me a river little fella, and good luck in the big sky

          • Ha, solid bet. Rotator cuff gets sore but I bet I’d take that bitch 9 out of 10.

            But you’re making my point for me. I also wish that Vidlak would have been patient at OSU, but when your offensive coordinator/QB coach recruits you then brings in a sack of shit like Noyer and moves him to the front of the line, you have to start questioning your sanity.

    • I thought the kid had a kind of football kinesthetic the way he could throw and place the ball. I wish him well. It is likely tough to get enough opportunities to show what you can do.

    • Yeah it may be too late, as 5+ years ago it was only Alabama (most of their talent stealing from the SEC hotbeds) and no CFP existed to challenge them. Now Georgia and Bama clearly getting most of the talent from coast to coast ans they have become household names! Georgia and Bama maybe the official minor league teams of the NFL. At least Ohio State hung in there against Georgia. Is anybody actually watching the game? ESPN losing lots of $$$ and viewership if they keep this up.

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      A 12 team playoff is nothing more than a money grab. All you is the following: Georgia, Alabama, the winner of Ohio State vs. Michigan and the best team from Clemson, the B12 or The P12. Nothing more is needed. This championship game is just flat out boring and will only get worse with 12 teams. The gap between the have and have nots is immense.

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        True, but maybe with 12 teams the beavs have a chance to get utterly annihilated in prime time sometime in the not too distant future

  29. Bud Clark? TCU has the dead mayor of Portland out there on defense? No wonder they are getting boat raced!
    I’ve also having strange flashbacks of an Anderpants defense circa 2015.

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    I saw part of the telecasts and not only was the split screen annoying, but reading the text on the screen, the announcers said something stupid like “Let’s go up into that suite we paid $75,000 for and see what people are saying on the internet.” and then proceeded to read some of the comments. Like that adds value to the telecast. Some of the stupidest fucking comments and approach I’ve seen. And calling attention to the ridiculous suite price – if real – just calls into specific relief how absurd this has become. I decided not to bother watching the game.

  31. Are they panning frequently to the GA QB’s “family” and saying things like “And there THEY are! Showing their support, like any support is needed!”

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    Those Bulldogs do NOT like wildlife. They start the season by sodomizing Ducks and end it by sodomizing Horned Frogs…yeesh.

  33. I keep seeing things about the PAC 12 schedule not being finalized, but here it discussed like the home and away games are set, only the order will change.

    After they eliminated divisions the comment from GK I’ve seen was they kept 22 the same but 23 was open for discussion. Anyone seen anything finalized?

    • Seems like they are trying to make matchups appealing for TV and probably trying not to make really tough stretches for the top teams. Like if the Beavs had to play UW, Utah and Oregon in a 3 game stretch.

      I did see something about maybe moving to an 8 game conference schedule. Not sure how they get that done because they’d have to find 12 non conference opponents.

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    USAToday too early 2023 top 25:

    “19. Oregon State (10-3)

    This may be too low for the Beavers, especially if coach Jonathan Smith can coax improvement out of Clemson transfer DJ Uiagalelei. For a team that has flourished in recent years, including 10 wins this year for the first time since 2006, better quarterback play could carry OSU into the conference championship game. Just as important is the continued growth of a defense that went from allowing 5.7 yards per play in 2021 to 5.2 this past season. The Beavers have to be taken seriously as a New Year’s Six option. “

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      “a team that has flourished…”. Really? Besides this past season when did OSU flourish?

      Can’t remember a multitude of winning seasons recently.

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    What a horrible game to end the CFB season with!
    Ohio State should’ve won the game last weekend, Georgia was very lucky to even get into the final. I know I’m in a huge minority, but I preferred the days before the BCS and now the championship playoff era. The bowl games meant something and the uncertainty of who is the supposed national champion gave the fan bases, both something to crow and to bitch about in the off-season. Now we have a boring system with four or five teams having realistic chance chances of winning it.

  36. If Jim Harbaugh takes off from Michigan to go back to the NFL, Luke Fickell will be self immolating for taking the Wisconsin job.
    If captain comeback does take off from Michigan, wouldn’t it be awesome if somehow, Michigan could hire urban Meyer! That might even make the Woody versus Bo rivalry same tame lol.
    One can dream!!

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    Listening to the Beaver Blitz pod and as exciting as the signing class was with the headliners like Chiles and Howard, after this 1st signing day we are actually ranked 9th in the Pac 12 for signing class. Avg 24/7 rating is a little above 86…so a solid mid-3 star. Despite the lower ranking this is still one of the best avg rankings for quite awhile. Really puts into perspective how bad things really had gotten there for a good chunk of time. Also shows that we will need many years of sustained success to move up in the recruiting rankings…and I’m curious, what is the realistic top end for this team even with continued success? Even when the LA schools leave, one would think that Yucks, Dawgs and Utes will be the top classes regardless. What do you think happens in Boulder with Neon Deon? Outside of any success he might have on the field, I’d imagine he will be a recruiting force as he has shown he can be at JSU. Will Stanford be continually higher as well if they get some success going?

    It’s just interesting cause I knew we’d never beat the Ducks or Dawgs for recruiting but looking at things, our ceiling may in fact be a 5th or 6th spot. This isn’t anything more than an observation and something I found interesting because talent is clearly better, yet still not great from a ranking perspective. Excited to see how much these coaches can develop these young guys with more talent than we’ve had in probably 11+ years.

    Saw Chiles, Howard, Thomas and Hatten were on campus already. Also, DJU dad posted picture yesterday from Eugene Airport buying both Ducks and Beavs gear so looks like DJU is still on track to be with the team.

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      I think with two more 10+ win seasons we can get into the top 25 recruiting nationally, particularly if we get to a Rose Bowl. Performance wise, a Rose Bowl victory is the ceiling for this program.

      Hopefully the program sends more players to the NFL, in the form of 2nd and 3rd round picks. I think the real selling point for Hole and the Huskies recruiting-wise is that they push out first round talent.

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        Ceiling is not Rose Bowl. It’s the pinnacle for any Pac-12(soon to be 10) team who wins the conference and doesn’t play in the CFP. Beavs haven’t been to the Rose Bowl in over 60 years. Riley got close with needing 1 more win two years in a row, but couldn’t make it happen.

        Beavs develop talent unlike the ucks to where the players’ draft stock increases and I don’t care about recruiting #’s as long as Smith and Co keep finding “Their Guys” who are willing to put in the work to develop and compete for the starting job and not expect the starting job right away, then we should be just fine. The ucks recruit the high star flashy talent because they have the brand and NIL deals that can bring those players into their program. Do you want guys who will put in the work, or are just there for a paycheck; even though they are fully capable of improving and upping their game, they stay stagnant while others put in the work and eventually become equal if not play above their so called “talent level”.

    • Utah has only recently been near the top of the rankings. Stanford has been there for a while, but I’m guessing they’ll see some drop off unless Taylor works miracles.

      • Stanford seems like they’re at a crossroads as a program. It doesn’t seem that the promise of a Stanford pedigree holds the sway it used to compared to a fat NIL check.

        • They’ve still been doing really well in recruiting, even with the bad run they’ve been on. They probably underperform their recruiting ranking more than anyone.

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    Beavs got quite a few top 10 AP votes.

    Disappointing to end up at #17, especially behind LSU and Nike. Feels like brand name continuing to win out.

    • Agree but at least it is a top 20 finish…maybe it takes another solid year of winning when you should win to make a better impression, likely doesn’t help that the Florida beatdown game was nearly a month ago.

    • In fairness, LSU also absolutely crushed their bowl game.

      Dropping below Oregon after beating them H2H and after they just barely squeaked out a bowl win is wrong.

      And yeah, the computers liked us much better than the voters all year and it never really balanced out.

      • When nobody sees OSU play. How is anybody supposed to know if they’re any good?
        Oregon MUST be better, because they get on nationally televised games more frequently, while OSU gets televised between Pac12 network commercials

        • Nice beaver is correct and it needs to be said that if the PAC12 had pushed for the USC game be on a major network, the Beavs likely would have had a lot more respect throughout the season afterward.
          Instead they played 8/12 games in the 7:30 pm slot after everyone is asleep on PAC 12 network.

        • I recall one LV Bowl preview that said:”…America will finally get to see this great OSU Beaver team…”

          OSU’s exposure should increase next year with a pre-season ranking, curiosity about DJ, and multiple conference games against ranked opponents.

          • I thought our exposure might increase, but then Deion Sanders to Colorado makes them suddenly more marketable.
            I think that hiring is a big part of why the Pac has taken so damn long to release their 2023 schedule.

          • The schedule only lines up a few different ways it seems, but remember, the conference has the ability to go away from the division schedule this year. So Beavs could end up playing USC and not Stanford or play ASU and not Stanford or play USC and not Colorado. By forgoing the division schedule for the last year with USC and UCLA will give the conference more options for matchups.

  39. Leon Johnson ends up committing to Ok State today.
    I was told yesterday OSU was starting to do their homework on him, but too late.

  40. Fresno State finishes #24, BSU just outside Top 25, and i believe Montana State U went to FCS championship quarter finals.

    BTW, GA’s schedule next year is very weak, could realistically end up 12-0z

    • We played an impressive non-con this year and handled it well.

      I always thought that a lot of people didn’t give Nolan enough credit for how he played in those games. He played great in all 3, and I’d say he took the team on his back and won Fresno St for us after we were struggling and got down late.

      Then of course he single-handedly cost us USC and was on his way to doing the same at Utah and that’s all people remember.

      Bottom line is Nolan was just wildly inconsistent and streaky. People forget how good he was at his best. He’s the Beavs’ Carson Wentz.

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        Nolan doesn’t get enough credit, period. He has limitations and my suspicion is he was coached to try and push beyond those. Lindgren has to get some of the blame for Nolan not being what we needed, which was just a good game manager.

    • He started off the BSU well and I believe Gould dropped a deep ball. Second half the “throw away to the sideline” interception was horrific. Thankfully The Jackhammer had the big run to stop the bleeding and win the game.

  41. Is there any updates on whether there will be a Pac# in 2025? Seems like an “all hands on deck” situation for the Pac. Read on some sites (fans, not league officials) talking about taking FSU and SDSU to get the central and so cal market and lock the Pac out. Evidently, late night games are desirable to ESPN, who knew. Maybe take SDSU, FSU The Nevada schools, Colorado State and New Mexico? UNLV is no prize, but the Las Vegas market isn’t too bad. It would be the luck of da Beavs to have a championship caliber team and no league.

    • They will likely will only add 2. Some higher ups in the pac school have a feeling the LA schools will decide to return in a few years when they find travelling with non football sports to compete with the other big 10 proved to be untenable.

  42. Regarding transfers, I wouldn’t sleep on USC WR CJ Williams. OSU could be an attractive landing spot for him.
    Visited Wisconsin and West Virginia most recently.
    I wouldn’t think he fits an immediate need, given we already have quite a few young WRs, but he’d also be one of, if not the highest ceiling guys in our current WR room if he came here. Gotta grab talent when you can.

    6’2 190lb 4* WR from the 2022 class.

    https://247sports.com/player/cj-williams-46082278/

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    Dave from Tumwater was reporting on next years non conference schedule and mentioned the travesty of a road opener at a Mountain west San Jose St, which will be San Jose St second game.

    The only thing worse planning now is for Barnes to buyout that game for $1 million and agree to an opening game trouncing in Atlanta stadium playing an Sec team.

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      travesty? If we can’t beat San Jose a week after they’ve been pummeled by USC, then we don’t deserve to be talking about top 25 rankings.

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        Riley eta patterns are hard to break free from for sure. It used to be a typical start to each season to see the Beavs stumble out of the gate and put themselves out of contention within a month. JS is changing that but it is a tough sell for the fan base
        So far.
        San Jose St should be a win even on the road.

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        it’s a travesty to even be on the road at SJSU. I get at a Boise St even few years but in 2028, Beavs are scheduled to play at New Mexico. That should never happen.

          • That’s absurd and in terms of teams in transition, not an interesting matchup. Sanders already getting unwarranted attention. Even if they beat ASU, it won’t necessarily be a good indication of anything given ASU is in a down cycle and in transition. The new HC will likely have an offensive game plan Colorado can’t keep up with though.

          • If you look above in my “Predicted Pac-12 Schedules” comments I stated Colorado will move a conference game to week 0(August 26) in order to get a BYE week in the middle of the season as I had their BYE week at the end of the season to preserve the rivalry weekend matchups. This also could potentially give ASU 2 BYE weeks in the middle of the season. So ya, I can see why ASU and Colorado are willing to make this move.

        • Gotta play at least 1 noncon road game though?
          I’d rather play a road Mountain West game than travel east and play a P5 team with no return game

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          Beavs got stuck playing at Colorado St to break in their new stadium and got drilled 58-27 and don’t believe there has been a return game yet. That was great scheduling!

          • That was a terrible Beavs team too. Wouldnt have mattered who we played.
            Only W that year was an overtime game against a winless Portland State team. A game that was so bad, 1 team was forced to actually have a W that year because of it.

          • 2017. When GA brought Luton in to replace McMaryion and all the pre-season hype about “flipping” in their “big boy” pants.

            Has to be one of the worst seasons in the history of college football.

        • I like road games against G5 that aren’t picked for their conference championship game pre-season like FSU was in 2022. SJSU is a team trending up, but aren’t the same caliber as a Fresno State or Air Force. Road games to start the season isn’t a bad thing either as it gets the team in a mental state of business trip right away and demands their focus. With UC Davis the next week, it’s not a trap game right off the bat either. So we won’t need to worry about “looking ahead” to UC Davis. 2023 schedule could be our sofest non-conf schedule without a Portland State, EWU, Sac State, type FCS school to start the season. D-1 G5 demands attention right away.

          I am looking forward to the TTech and Ole Miss away games in the future. those I will need to find a way to travel to those games since I’m in the midwest and they aren’t that terrible to get to really. TTech game could get moved to a neutral site though same as Ole Miss. I hope they don’t but they might.

    • Wonder if there’s a destination already in play though. Seems a bit late in this process to hit the portal…lots of the top schools looking have made those acquisitions already.

      • The rumor is he’s headed to Cal Poly, where his HS coach was just hired.
        A little surprising, but he hasnt really done anything to justify being a 5 star QB recruit either, has he?

          • He occupies a weird space in the QB landscape, though. Everyone is either chasing portal QB’s with some track record or high-ranked HS guys. Formerly high-ranked HS prospects without any kind of positive track record the past few years aren’t plug and play starter options, but they also come with fewer years of eligibility left to use for development.

            It doesn’t help that the limited game action he saw on a really bad UW team ended poorly for him. His only UW game film is UGLY.

        • I read he’s heading to cal poly and then somewhere else after a year (assuming he lights it up). Can’t really blame him. He needs to show he’s got something still.

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    Have seen so much whining about the playoffs expanding in a couple years and how it will just lead to more slaughters like we witnessed with GA/TCU last night.
    To me, that is all the more reason to expand. I’m sick of college football’s championship belonging to 3 or 4 programs and nobody else really having a realistic shot at joining them.
    The more non-traditional teams that start slipping into the playoffs, the more they will show top tier recruits there are other programs that can get to the finals.
    It wont happen overnight, but nobody outside of their own fanbases wants to see Georgia/Alabama/OhioState/Clemson be the only teams that can attract top talent. The current system rewards the top teams by helppng them get stronger every year.
    It’s why the NCAA baseball and Basketball tournaments are so great for those sports

        • Why would Nolan go to UW? Not sure how that’d be good for either party. No way that happens. Indiana makes sense although he might want to look at Big Sky or MWC schools.

          • Down to 2 scholarship QBs and one is going to be in his last year, they need at least two bodies. They didn’t sign anyone in the last recruiting cycle so no incoming frosh either. I’m sure they’ll take almost anyone at this point. There aren’t many good options left in the portal.

            On3 ranks Nolan as the 4th best QB left.

          • Big 10 defenses will eat Nolan alive. Wish him the best but he played his best games in the preseason and not when actual league play started. Accuracy and decision making big problems, hopefully change of scenery helps him be successful.

    • Did he get his waiver, it’s interesting how the possibility was never brought up during his final season as a Beav. Maybe he felt good during those two series against Florida?

  45. Interesting results from the Coaches Poll voting:
    -Every voting PAC-12 coach had us above Nike except Jedd Fisch
    -Billy Napier from Florida had us ranked higher than any other coach did (#9), including ranking us above LSU
    -Brady Hoke, still salty about not getting the OSU job, had us ranked lower than any coach did (#18)

      • The majority ranked us 13-17, with 17 being the most common ranking. No idea how the points came out, but that’s what the data says.

      • Interesting how many have Oregon 1-2 spots ahead of Beavs and seem either discount the civil war game, or just think Ducks are better team anyway.
        Might be confusing the programs or just not ever seeing the Beavs actually play.
        Likely some SID grad student who fills it out after all.

        • My guess is that no one sees them play. The Majority of AP voters live east of Texas. Add in all the late KO’s for OSU and I doubt even half of them watched OSU this season.

  46. Bodes well for a Top 25 pre-season ranking. the schedule is favorable (of course the conference slate isn’t out, but facing Cal, Colorado and Arizona on the road and your toughest games in state is a plus. Opening in San Jose though gives me visions of Fresno State post Fiesta Bowl – I’m figuring Smith will bring that up a few times ahead of that game.

    • San Jose State is not the same caliber a team as Fresno State in regards to their crowd and environment. It really depends on how well the defense meshes and how well Ben, DJ, and Aidan all do in getting better and pushing each other to be better these next 9 months. really looking forward to Spring practices. it’s been a really long time since Spring practices were anticipated by the Oregon State faithful. If I were in Oregon, I would take my kids to the Spring Game in April.

    • I wonder if the whole thing put him into a depression for a spell. Happens. It can take a long time to feel “normal” after any kind of head/neck injury. To have lingering stuff going on and not being able to get cleared and back on the field would totally suck. I like how they worded it with “graduation issues”. Meaning that he had to take some “Incomplete” grades and now has to finish up his classes so he can make it official, which is typical in a health related hardship situation. Sucks. Hope he finds the right fit, and the confidence he needs to be a consistent player.

  47. It’s odd that JS has not made a WR from the portal a priority. I wonder if it’s that he’s happy with our WRs and if he were to bring one it, it’s more about run blocking that receiving? Maybe it’s because we’re a run heavy team, he’s confident in what we have in the cupboard.

    • Gould and Bolden are both set as starters I’d expect. Dunmore caught everything against Florida and was clobbered as he did so but didn’t drop anything or fumble.
      Maybe addition by subtraction to have Harrison gone. More chances for Gould, Bolden and Lowe out in the flat.
      JS spoke very highly of the wide receivers coming in as freshmen, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them adds to the 2 deep. JS mentioned elite speed as a trait for a couple of them. Perhaps the theory is that the running game creates ply action and all you need is a qb that can actually throw the deep ball because with the elite speed it will be open for the guys already on the roster.

    • Reposting from early in thread, but there are a number of receivers listed at 6’2.”

      Silas Bolden, 5? 8?
      Anthony Gould, 5? 8?
      Jesiah Irish(?), 5? 11?
      Riney Walker, 6? 0?
      Rweha Manyagi, 6? 2?
      Trent Walker, 6? 2?
      John Dunmore, 6? 2?
      Mikalaya Tongue, 6? 2?
      Jeremy Vaslin, 6? 2?
      Jeremiah Noga, 6? 2?
      Trevor Pope, 6? 2?

      I recall Angry rated Vaslin pretty well in his recruiting rankings…

      As OhioBeav said Dunmore showed up in LV bowl…

      I suspect they must be pretty happy with what they have on the roster and with their development.

      • If you keep tabs on who they follow day to day, we are currently pretty interested in the WR position.
        Pretty much any WR transfer who fits the below criteria gets an automatic follow.
        4* player
        6’2″ or taller

        Tonight it was a WR from Florida State, Malik McClain.

        I think the main issue with the taller players you listed is most of those guys arent going to see the field much this year. Dunmore and Valsin will likely be the only taller receivers who get many reps. Noga will get a few. Tongue cant catch and is pretty much a special teams guy. Havent seen Pope yet.

        Considering the window of opportunity with DJU is small, they need to make sure that his tranaferring to OSU doesnt turn into a bust because he has nobody experienced to throw to besides Gould and Boldin

        • Thanks. Many of those guys I couldn’t find in Angry’s class rankings? Vaslin was the only player that hasn’t seen the field that stood out in his rankings.

          I won’t be surprised if DJ helps attract more talent at the position. Another Hodgins-like receiver would be great.

    • makes it 3 paid assistants, but no additional paid assistant for Baseball, Softball, or Ice Hockey for D-1 sports. If I understand this correctly, football, soccer, basketball, wrestling, track and field, cross country, etc all get to have 4 paid assistant coaches with 2 of those 4 have being volunteer assistants? Good news for JS to be able to add to his paid staff for the upcoming season as well as Tinkle. Correct me if I’m reading this incorrectly.

    • My buddy who knows coach Whitt personally and emails with him said they have a huge LB depth and he was buried on their depth chart. Doesn’t mean he isnt good, just not as polished as the 2 deep. Take it for what its worth.

    • I see his weight listed at anywhere between 210 and 230. Obviously, the latter number would be more ideal for an inside linebacker. Will be interesting to see his height/weight stats via OSU.

  48. The NCAA Division I Council approved legislation on Wednesday to limit waivers for second-time transfers. Now, undergraduate players who transfer will have specific guidelines they must meet in order to be eligible for immediate playing time starting with the 2023-24 season or risk sitting out a year in between transfers.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ncaa-council-votes-to-limit-eligibility-for-second-time-transfers-to-curb-ballooning-portal-usage/?fbclid=IwAR2e_UA–JtQ46mC6T__YgbUEaooG2PnU2FmNUSbsytVwecxJVTNobNn2qA

    Basically the JT Daniels rule

  49. “Oregon State Bowl Grade: A

    SRS Distribution Las Vegas Bowl
    Prediction: Oregon State 31, Florida 24
    Line: Oregon State -8.5, o/u: 52.5
    Final Score: Oregon State 30, Florida 3
    What Happened, Player of the Game, Fun Stats, What it Means

    Those were SEC players in Florida uniforms on the other side of the field. It’s not Oregon State’s fault that the other side didn’t bring its game to Vegas. It took a little while to put this out of reach, but the Beavers never let this get interesting, going up 30-0 going before the SEC side came up with a sad field goal in the final seconds.”

    Dam right.

    https://collegefootballnews.com/2023/01/bowl-grades-for-every-team-conference-how-did-everyone-do-2022-2023/9

    • AND the FLA grade:

      “Florida Bowl Grade: D-

      You’re an SEC program, Florida. Act like it.

      Yeah, the Gators were missing a whole slew of important parts – like, almost all of them – but they shouldn’t have needed a field goal in the final seconds to have something to show for their total bust of a trip. 219 yards, 11 penalties – this didn’t work. The only reason it’s not an F is because the guys who did play gave it a run, and the defense kept it from getting out of hand, but … no. This wasn’t even close.”

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    CJ Williams to Wisconsin. Too bad, cause I was told we were feeling pretty confident on that guy recently.
    Wisconsin has pulled in 3 pretty good transfer WRs in less than a week

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      Fickell must be telling them he is going to dismantle the run first Wiscy tradition. SMU and Oklahoma transfer qbs are coming in to compete to see who gets to throw the ints next year for Wiscy.

      Fickell has a 2 year window to prove that a pass heavy offense will work in Madison. I bet he gets run out of town in year 3 by the Alvarez faction of the alumni base.

  51. @Nicebeaver:

    You may have posted this earlier, but what appears to be the staff’s priorities for transfer positions?

    Sounds like larger WR is one…and I would assume CB? Maybe TE? CB seems like the biggest hole in the roster by far from my vantage. Unless the staff is really excited about some younger guys that we haven’t seen yet. Austin wasn’t amazing (and I think he’s dumb to leave early) but losing him and Wright together is tough.

    • that’s a tough one. Gotta think it’s in pursuit of NIL money to make it worth not hitting the draft. Just sad that OSU couldn’t come up with whatever it would take to make 1 more year happen.
      Also, i know it’s’ been hard on his mom having him so far away from home and with no opportunities to see him play, so maybe he’s moving east to be closer to home?

      • So is this true? I assumed this was a false alarm by 247 rivals similar to Trevor Pope.

        I thought Omar was either Beavs or NFL bound. Didnt think transferring was a thought.

        • I haven’t had a chance to check with anybody. Nor do i wnat to hear the truth, haha

          If he ends up at a Penn State or BostonCollege or UConn, we’ll know it’s more about being home than anything
          Really hope he doesn’t end up at some USC or Oregon type situation.

    • I was expecting him to leave and would’ve been more surprised about him staying. Of course, was expecting him to go pro but it is what it is.

    • Not real surprised, he was kinda hot garbage. Went and watched a bunch of their games this season after DJU announced. They didn’t do him any favors with their playbook, didn’t seem to have any real identity in what they were trying to do as a team other than say “hey look we can out recruit you”, and that showed again in the Bowl game with Klubnik throwing it 50+ times. DJ did miss quite a few open guys due to breakdowns in fundamentals or slow decision making (or both), especially on third down.

  52. My guess on Omar is he was waiting on his Draft evaluation and it wasn’t good (7th/undrafted) so he decided to enter the portal to test the waters. There hasn’t been the thank you Oregon State tweet, so I have hope he isn’t 100% out the door, might not find greener pastures and returns.

    • Or ihis draft evaluation wasn’t as hoped so he’s gonna chase the big payday to transfer to a school and get what he can while he can.

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      NFL doesn’t want a LB that piles up assisted tackles and can’t tackle in space. Good luck to Omar wherever he ends up. I hope his degree serves him well.

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    I guess the message board rumor is Alabama poached him. No idea if that’s true, but hard to deny there is tampering when that is already being talked about and he ends up at Alabama actually.

    • Well, Mullaney went to Bama and got himself a championship. I sort of hope it’s Bama that would make some sense. Otherwise, it’s a big WTF unless he’s homesick.

  54. The transfers we’re loading up on were really
    highly rated coming out of HS. Talent level continuing to go up; let’s hope the staff can get the most out of them.

    Terry was called a “matchup nightmare” coming out of HS, but apparently he can’t block.

    • Maybe his thighs are too damn big?

      He’ll lull them into a lack of attention on his slow routes and then > CUT! And there’s the ball…

  55. It’s interesting that Terry posted practice film vs game footage in his twitter bio. Obviously shows the lack of game production. He did play in every game and started 9.

    What is he? He could be what you call a redzone target, big body who can make catches and take the hits. No speed at all and probably isn’t a good blocker. Maybe a change of scenery will work. But at minimum, he’s an upgrade over Byrne.

    • This is Scott’s tracking spreadsheet. It’s not current as of the past 2 days. The count here is 84, but a few possible changes to that total are:
      +1 Terry
      +1 Tufaga
      ? Sappington might not be on scholarship
      ? Black might not be on scholarship

      So maybe we’re at 84? It’s hard to know for sure.
      With how many players they’re tracking in the portal, they’re sure to be adding more this offseason, and we’re likely to lose more as well.

  56. Strange Speights hasn’t posted the obligatory thank you tweet to Oregon State. My orange colored glass are making me hope he’s just testing the waters and is still entertaining coming back.

  57. An article on the changes in the Top 25 from preseason to postseason,

    “Missing from the final rankings were Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Miami and 12 other teams that were in the preseason poll back in August. That 15-team turnover from the first to final poll is one more than there was in the 2021 season, which had been the most in the poll’s 86-year history.

    Two seasons doesn’t necessarily represent a trend, but maybe it’s getting harder to project who will be good in any given season.

    Half of the final top 10 — TCU, No. 6 Tennessee, No. 7 Penn State, No. 8 Washington and No. 9 Tulane — started the season unranked.

    Maybe it’s all the transfers? Maybe it’s the super seniors who have taken advantage of the extra season of eligibility the NCAA allowed for those who played in the pandemic? Maybe it’s the myriad coaching changes? Maybe it’s more freshman arriving ready to contribute?”

    No. 17 Oregon State (10-3)
    Going: TE Luke Musgrave; LB/FB Jack Colletto; CB Rezjohn Wright.
    Staying: RB Damien Martinez; DL Sione Lolohea; WR Anthony Gould.
    Reality check: With the addition of former Clemson QB DJ Uiagalelei, the Beavers should be in line for their first preseason ranking since 2013.”

    The questions are all on the teams’ side, not on the pollsters, implying it makes it harder on the pollsters to make “accurate” predictions. Maybe pollsters go for the false narratives and don’t watch enough games to make an informed poll vote?!? This season was more, not less, interesting because of the change. As NiceBeaver said above “…nobody outside of their own fanbases wants to see Georgia/Alabama/OhioState/Clemson be the only teams that can attract top talent. ”

    https://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/2023/01/ap-top-25-reality-check-record-churn-in-final-college-football-rankings-again.html

    • Was “Down to UCLA, Stanford, and Oregon State. She cut Oregon, Arizona State, and Notre Dame.

      6-3 forward from Utah ranked in top-5.”

      Beavs beat out some good programs.

  58. It’s known HS kids are getting money to commit to a school. I read an article that the Florida QB commit backed out of his LOI because he failed to receive some absurd agreed amount of $16 mil or something.

    With NIL poaching and the transfer portal out of control, do you think in the future (if already not happening) these prep kids will be signing deals that they can’t transfer or have buyouts as part of their signing agreements? Will we begin to see agents for these collegiate athletes in the future? Aren’t NIL ambassadors kind of like agents ?

    • This leads to my next time question, where is Florida or all
      the other programs getting the money to pay these recruits.

      I can see Oregon getting Phil Knight money but that’s a special circumstance because of Nike and the revenue they make off of Oregon.

      DJ repped Bojangles, maybe the owner of Bojangles is a booster for Clemson.

      Where’s the Beavs gonna get their money?

      • If programs want to spend millions on unproven high school athletes, let ’em. It’s a stupid thing to waste money on.

        Meanwhile, the Beavs will incrementally increase their talent and churn out 8+ win seasons, while spending very little.

        • As long as the universities that are facilitating this are also providing the kids with financial education, it seems like everyone wins here:

          Rich donors get what they want
          Players get paid for all their work
          Government gets tax revenue they wouldn’t if the money was being exchanged in McDonald’s bags
          Competing teams don’t really suffer that much because the projectability of HS athletes is so low, ROI is going to be miserable for highly targeted NIL money

          Even top-flight soccer leagues don’t pin their hopes on splashing cash for teenage phenoms. The 18yo-21-yo gap is fraught with unpredictability and there’s absolutely no way around that.

          Once people realize this isn’t working, unless they’re the Raiders Davis family, they’ll adjust their approach to try to improve results and life will go on.

          Transfer portal is the true evil.

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            I don’t know- I think transfer portal also does more good than harm TBH.

            Gives players options, and most often serves to redistribute talent to where it’s needed most. Good for players (more PT), good for the non-elite schools. Makes it less common for teams to have glaring roster holes since those holes will tend to attract transfers. Good for overall competitiveness.

            I think the transfer portal / NIL combination is the unfortunate part. Guys like Addison last year leaving a top program where he’d been successful and presumably happy in order to put himself up for the highest bidder. Cases like Speights this year who’s (I’m guessing) trying the same thing. Still good for the players in many cases but definitely not good for schools or for the quality of the game.

            Some players (see: JT Daniels) may end up screwing themselves by chasing NIL money at the expense of developing their actual skills. It’s an opportunity for coaches to avoid that sort of player though, and a pitfall that’ll tend to hurt the bigger schools more.

          • “As long as the universities that are facilitating this are also providing the kids with financial education, it seems like everyone wins here:”

            Screw that.
            Why am I paying for some rich kid to go to school?

    • Of the two, NIL feels the worse of the two at present. At least with the transfer portal, it is a system that can modified with proper rules guiding when/how often a player can utilize it season to season to curb abuse? Changes to it can be made relatively quickly, and not at the whim of particular schools.

      NIL is a very complicated issue. “It’s just the price of doing business,” has changed how professional sports handles its players, and players attitudes towards their team/organization. I worry about contract creep. I worry some families will be taken advantage of. I worry that unscrupulous parents will also seek to find ways to have it be just about enrichment, rather than what could be best for their son/daughter, wherever they can.

      Much harder to have oversight that minimizes those occurrences. And I feel it’s needed moreso in this venue, given how young these athletes are.

      • “I worry some families will be taken advantage of. I worry that unscrupulous parents will also seek to find ways to have it be just about enrichment, rather than what could be best for their son/daughter, wherever they can.”

        Those have been issues for decades with dirty programs and their alums paying players or their families in pursuit of program prominence. Not just in football, basketball obviously.

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        Right, isn’t there already a pending change as to, again, having to sit a year if you don’t meet certain criteria?

        NCAA has some control over transfers and the portal, NIL is literally the wild wild west of collecting the most hired guns, Magificent Seven style

    • Gadzooks indeed. Are they going Air Raid or Run and Shoot?!? Boosters with money to burn? Or is it the draw of squeaky cheese curds, brandy old-fashioned sweets, and polkas?!?

      Don’t they know how cold it is there?!?

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      It will end in disaster. Start watching for their oline guys to transfer where they get to run block again.

      Al of their linebackers and DBs will transfer out when they realize the offense won’t control the clock for 35 minutes anymore.

      Fickell is playing with the laws of nature if he tries to turn Wiscy into a passing school.

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      Just got home from the game:

      The future looks bright, Beers, Gardiner (looked awesome), Blacklock, AJ…but…

      Beavs with the now patented too many turnovers, Rueck still doesn’t seem to have the line up dialed in, I love Noelle’s hustle but she just doesn’t scream out pac-12 starter, TVO is in a horrible shooting slump and as big as Jelena is she is weak in the post.

      Also, Beavs continue to look beat up when playing physical teams, like the cougs were tonite. Beers is a stud and Timea wasn’t backing down either, neavs need more of that.

      On to Sunday, sitting in my regular seat, but damn this team just doesn’t look the part this year.

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    WBB is almost as frustrating to watch lately as MBB. Too many turnovers and streaks where they cannot buy a bucket. Down 9 to Wazzu at home with seven minutes left.

  60. aTm has offered Speights. So now we know it’s a losing battle to get into any type of bidding war. Hope it works out for him and he actually performs well against SEC offenses

    • Well, he sure the hell isn’t homesick then. I can’t begrudge a marginal NFL prospect going after the NIL money, but good luck going from a team graded as an “A” to one that received an “F”. I’m not gonna shed a tear if Jimbo underachieves again. This one’s a little bitter no way around it.

      • Bitter for sure. Hate to see him go, was a great family story; moving from Philly (?) to Corvallis and his brother. His Mom was a real supporter.
        Hope his college days lead to a great future in life, if not in FB.

        • Wish him the best and will def miss his leadership. However, he appears to be 1 dimensional. Great at run defense but was kind of a liability in coverage. Also, felt like he had a handful of sacks that he whiffed on. Hope he is able to excel and achieve what he wants at his next school.

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      OSU has not been significantly impacted by the transfer portal and NIL yet as far as I can see. Gebbia was a marginal benefit. Limited by injury, he never got to show if he might have made a real difference (thanks for the CW win). Speights had 4 years at OSU, good run defender, I don’t necessarily blame him for wanting to try something different. Don’t forget, an ILB is coming in from Utah and may get Speights’ reps.

      DJU is potentially a game changer. There’s been some decent receivers come in, I like Jam Griffin’s running (watch him v. USC this year and then in the LV bowl, dude always runs hard and plays bigger than his size).Martinez has been loyal and not swayed by NIL so far…

      If somebody looked at all the transfer + and – I bet OSU has slightly benefited from it or broke even as opposed to losing.

      Smith so far has a culture of selflessness, distributed effort, and player development.

      Speights moving on isn’t preferred, but its not the end of the world.

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    Ah fuck it man, I wish the kid nothing but the best. If my son had just put in 4 quality years at a good school with a respectable program and he called me and said “Dad they wanna give me $250k” I’d tell him to go get that money.

    Beside the fact that if he goes to one of the southern schools that sends 300 guys to the NFL every year he’ll be looked at in a different light, and he’ll look better in those defenses that’s top to bottom blue chip kids.

    So best of luck kid. Thanks for the effort.

    • Totally agree with this – Speights has given a lot to the team for years and this seems like the best move for him, so I wish him all the best.

      It is a concerning precedent though- we end up with a lot of good college players with marginal pro prospects. Would really suck if a lot of those guys started taking off to cash in with their last 1-2 years.

    • The thing about college sports is that players are going to graduate and move on no matter what, so I was being a bit facetious with my Speights comments. No doubt though, it’s weird to see what amounts to essentially free agency with certain qualified athletes each year with the NIL money involved now. On the other hand, college football coaches have been screwing over players for years by taking the next best job.

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    I woke up to find an old friend is in hospice after two strokes. This won’t end well for her. Life is fragile Beavos. Spend time wisely etc. I always stress the importance of doing things the right way and as soon as possible (e.g. I have made the comment over and over the Beavs need to act swiftly etc, and this is a big reason why. We will lose Beav fans this coming year, and they won’t get a chance to see a Rose Bowl team, etc). By being slow, we deprive people of experience. You know, cracking my temple on the pavement a few weeks ago was another reminder of all of this. By the way, thanks OldBeav, I wrote the company and they had a 30% off crash replacement program on the helmet, so I saved like $70. Glad I asked.

    • Sorry to hear about your friend. Strokes terrify me.

      What you mentioned is why I had to make sure and attend my first bowl game thia year. No guarantees that oooirtunity will be there again. Totally worth it

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      Thanks. But I’m more sorry for her than me. Hoping for a miracle. But yes, only so many summers. If you live an average life you get 72 or so. If you live just one standard deviation from that it’s like half that…scary stuff, and this is why I stopped wasting time watching other Pac games. Only Beavs for me. The rest of my time is spent living life and doing things. Gotta cram in what we can.

      Good call, NB. Smart to go. I actually prefer watching games on TV, but if we get to a Rose Bowl I’ll probably go, and empty my 401k to buy front row seats. Lol. Though, apparently Hank from GMC is going to help me get a media pass this coming year. Which would be sweet should we make a Rose Bowl…

      NiceBeav and OldBeav, I will see if I can get you guys one since you help run the site. I think he said they open up applications in June or so, and he was going to help me out with the process, so I will apply then and see what it is all about and let you know if I can do anything for you guys.

      • I haven’t even been watching the beavs in real time this last couple of years. My sons are teenagers and we are spending our fall Saturdays out in the bushes hunting and fishing. My 15 year old plays HS football so we’re already watching during the week.

        • I always prioritized time with my kid over watching games in real time. You have to enjoy time with them while you can.

          I’ve enjoyed the Beavers late starts for the reason I can get my fishing in on beautiful fall days. Trout are wanting to fatten up before winter and can be aggressive feeders and active fighters…the I can get home and watch the Beavers in the evening. Or watch the highlights. I don’t watch other Pac teams and only watch the Beavers

          I hope the Beavers get better time slots this season and I think they will. I’ll miss many of them in real time but love the “Matthew Loves Ball” compilations on youtube. Usually about 20-25 minutes long.

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    Wow. Speights WAS impressive:

    “Speights had an impressive career with the Beavers, totaling 308 career sacks over his three years in Corvallis. Last year, he had 83 tackles and 8.0 tackles for loss to anchor the Oregon State defense en route to first team All-Pac-12 honors and an appearance on the Bronco Nagurski Award watch list.”

    What is that, about 8 sacks per game. Relentless!

    https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/oregon-state-lb-omar-speights-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal-linebacker-beavers/

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    Colorado has quickly become oregon south. Similar approach, just grab as many high star players as possible and hope the pieces all come together. They are poised to pick up another 5* player in 2023 CB Cormani McClain, the top CB nationally and a top 10 overall recruit at all positions.
    It’s easy to dismiss them them and call it a sideshow, but wont be long before theyre a problem

    • I can’t wait til colorado goes 0-2 to start the season next year and loses to all time low Nebraska and reality sinks in that they were all delusional and end the season 4-8. Im getting sick of listening to these buffs fans. I get it they’re excited but really?

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      Their coach is an egotistical weirdo but he was a great cb, if I played that position and wasn’t old as fuck I would seriously consider colorado tbh

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        Think a lot of people are dismissing Deion because they are averse to the personality/character he plays for the media (because it works). If you can get past all the “egotistical personality” stuff, he’s actually an old-school no bullshit disciplinarian kind of coach. His mantra with the team is “Smart, tough, fast, disciplined, with character”, not unlike JS’s “low-ego high-output”. Same kinda thing happened to him when he was in the NFL, known to fans and media as a big egotistical personality (I was not a fan) but to fellow players as very cerebral and disciplined. He was not an Antonio Brown psycho kind of player and pro. He’s also now a hardcore born-again and “faith-based”.

        I also see a lot of people dismiss Colorado as a bad fit for him and I actually think it’s kind of perfect. Boulder is all about Louis Vuitton. It’s not a blue-collar “lunch pail U” kinda place. It’s an opulent and aristocratic kinda place. He’s gonna attract a ton of 4/5-star gen-z kids who are in touch with social-media and influencer culture who see him as a god-like mentor. He put together a good and experienced staff. If he can get those kinda kids to play like he did, they’ll be hard to beat and it’ll happen fast.

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          And he played under some very successful NFL coaches in his time, so he’s likely learned a few things.

          I suspect he’ll be successful faster than we might like. I do however hope to see his son struggle at this level, at least against OSU’s D…

        • Sanders may end up doing well, but there’s a lot of hype about his Jackson St success. They do not play in a strong FCS league and lost both times to the MEAC in their championship games. I think they would be a middle-of-the-pack Big Sky team, so it needs to be put in perspective. Then again, he is going to get higher-level recruits based on his name and that hype. As many have pointed out, it’s what he does with the talent that will matter.

          • Sounds like Colorado commits got boned by the ad begging them to stay then prime cutting them loose. Several without so much as a direct call.

            Yep, he’s a tool.

  65. MBB is off to a better start ahead of the Sun Devils 12-5 early. I didn’t realize ex-Beav Warren Washington was with ASU and a starter.

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    Well, it was fun while it lasted 16 point first half lead is now a 7-point deficit with about six minutes left. Tinks started four freshmen and Taylor Jr.

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      Thanks to some really bad free throw shooting from ASU. Should’ve been at least a 10 pt win but thankfully they shot like 65% from the line on close to 30 attempts. Tied for 11th in the Pac. Lol. Such a bad team. From what I’ve watched it’s not even exciting basketball. Dribble around top of the key, take a 3 or turn it over. Been through a lot of down years with Beavs basketball but even in some of those years we ar least had some exciting moments. Do have some decent young talent for sure, sadly I don’t see them sticking together for 2-3 years to really gel and become something. Transfer portal and/or NIL will change this squad unfortunately. Would love to be wrong but even if this off-season is half as busy as our last off-season we’ll have 3 or 4 guys leave.

      • There is some young talent for sure. Akanno and Andela’s minutes are shrinking, Tinkle must know his fate is tied to this group. If Tinkle can’t keep this team together then he has to go.

    • I think about the NFL process of evaluating draft picks: teams are drafting young people, usually early 20s, lots of maturing to do yet…usually 3-4 years of college game film to review, player analysis and over analysis… and teams still miss regularly on picks, or a number of factors contribute to a player not reaching their expected potential, whether injuries to that players or teammates that might have contributed to their success, immaturity, team coaching changes, etc.

      Now, tell a 17 year old he’s going to be paid $13M to play for a college…talk about speculating on individuals who still have a metric ton of maturing to do, not just physically, but mentally and emotionally. Crazy.

      And I imagine some of these collectives are going to be managed by real yahoos, perhaps alumni too vicariously wrapped up in their school’s sports outcomes. FLA is looking like such a collective right now. I imagine Miami, Nebraska, Texas all could have collectives that are poorly managed as they seek to recapture past glory.

      The NBA faces the same challenge, but the game is different, the number of players smaller, and injury risks are different and less severe. I suppose soccer, particularly international, has to deal with the risk of identifying and paying very young talent as well.

      • I’ve not kept up with NIL processes, because I honestly don’t care that much.
        But one thing I need clarification on is if the kids are contractually guaranteed the money, or are these all handshake deals that get them to contractually sign with a school?
        If it’s the latter, why would any kid be that stupid?

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    Didn’t OSU recruit Brock Purdy? Who was recruiting him, does anybody know? I guess he would have been recruited under the Smith regime?

    He’s now 6-0 and apparently the the first rookie QB to throw multiple TDs in his first six games. Today he threw over 330 yards, 3 TDs and ran for one as well (against an awful Seattle D). He’s got a helluva D on his side, and some great skill players in Samuel an McCaffery, but he still deserves credit for what he’s doing.

    Garrapolo (sp?) is going to be looking for a job…hell, they may let Lance go after his rookie deal expires to save money and have a less expensive backup?

  68. Who is giving Speights career advice? I’m not understanding why he isn’t going to the NFL.
    He’s a solid 4th or 5th round pick who will stick and flourish with the teams who make those kind of picks.
    He’s essentially a slightly bigger and slightly faster version of Matt Milano, who will end up someplace where a coach/gm has an eye for such a player. Think: Buffalo, Pitt, Seattle, San Fran… these days, Detroit and even Dallas.
    Who told him he wasn’t NFL material.
    And what life choices has he made to end up with the poor karma of having to speak to someone from aTm?

      • Roberts left early?
        Now that I’m looking at it, maybe he did?
        I don’t see our D being measurably better this year with him, just as there is always the possibility the D is better next year with whatever players step up into that role.

    • My guess is he received a grade from the NFL Draft Advisory Board of 7th/undrafted. 4/5th round grade on Speights is an optimistic grade and if he received that he would have left. I don’t think he has the speed to play in the modern NFL. Coming back and getting as much NIL money as possible is a right move, Plus playing at a high level in the SEC might move him up to the 4/5th round. Would love for him to come back to OSU if the NIL money isn’t right, but I think he has reach his ceiling at OSU and wish him the best of luck.

      • Just for comparisons, though, I would consider Johnny Manziel to be a mature eaTme student, and them waiting to hire Booby Petrino, so he could quit on yet another team… is about par for the course.
        You all think Oregon has self-entitlement issues? You have no friggin’ idea what a cesspool College Station is. Take LSU fans going after Heimlich, and multiply that times 1000.
        Dummies going to Whacko for school is one thing, but someone going to eaTme hurts my heart.
        On top of that, both times I tried eating at Freebirds, I got food poisoning. The second time was definitely my own fault, having had the first experience, and learning nothing.
        If Omar isn’t fast enough to make it in today’s NFL, then he’s also reached his ceiling at an SEC team. He’ll be taking money to ride the pine.

      • Just checking comparable LBs in the NFL, Omar has the speed and quickness at the point of attack to be in the top third of skillsets.
        So I’m not sure why anyone would bring up speed in this discussion.
        His coverage skills are decent enough, but that would be the only neg I can find on him.
        7th round is a bad assessment, especially knowing there are GMs who wouldn’t let him fall to there. First two days would be a reach, but 4th or 5th is realistic. 7th is ridiculous.
        Then again, Hodgins was projected by some to be a second day pick, and he went in the 6th.
        Maybe participating on the East Coast can artificially bump his stock to day 2. One thing I know is that you don’t ignore production on the P5 level, especially now that everyone and their grandmas go RPO.

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    Something is very wrong in the Scott Rueck regime. He needs to get over his stubborness and reassess certain aspects of his program cuz shit ain’t working anymore.

    • Are they still high up in the recruiting class rankings? It seems like no matter the players, the ball security is a disaster. At one point being swept at home by the Washington schools would have been inconceivable.

    • Key pieces leave and then having to reset with freshman, transfers and a couple hold overs has been more than he has had to deal with previously, no excuses, he is paid plenty. He has to get it figured out because they may not win again at this rate.

      If he can keep these freshman together, it’s a hell of a class to build on. Progress would be appreciated.

      The best players aren’t gelling, or necessarily all on the floor at the same time. At least he limited Jelena’s minutes. Next should be Noelle, and she should not be starting.

      Beers is regularly abused and gets the Shaq treatment where its just allowed by the refs, infuriating. No whistle for you.

      Gardiner is very good, very.

      The beavs looked flat until midway through the fourth, too little too late. Defense was non existent until then.

      Ducks up next, could be ugly.

    • They’re young.
      Give it about two weeks before they start to gel. Mid-February is about when teams start to click and figure each other out.
      It may be too late to get a post-season bid for this year, but it gives them motivation to be ready on day 1, next season.

  70. seems to be the case – Pac-12 announcers said Washington had been last in the conference in 3-pointers – this afternoon, Huskies are making them at will.

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    Man, this story out of Georgia is sad. Team members were out celebrating the national championship after a parade last night. A female staff member was driving 3 other staff/players afterwards and smashed into a utility pole/tree/building and one of the players dies at the scene.
    And there are pictures of the player just an hour or so before at a restaurant taking the time to pose for a picture with a young fan and even let the kids try his ring on, with no idea his life would end shortly after.

    https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-bulldogs/breaking-georia-devin-willock-chandler-lecroy-killed-in-car-accident/OLNLWREO6NHZBGZEV7P6D4X3SY/

  72. Only two more days until the current window the enter the portal ends. Should start to see commitments go fast once the portal closes and everyone knows the scholarship counts going into spring ball.

  73. Saw on Twitter that ducks have lost 14/23 of their 2021 recruits. I’m sure it’s not super pretty at other places but that seems like a pretty low hit ratio for 1 year essentially. Yes, coaching change could have something to do with that but still a wild # IMO.

    • Seems normal for when a coaching change happens.

      Beavs are probably near the average rate of attrition, signed 15 guys in the 2021 class. Vidlak, Byrne, Collins, Madison have transferred out. Buckles left the team without any announcement, Maile-Kaufusi went on a mission, and there could be more transfers after spring ball.

    • also, I have seen reports that Oregon is way over the 85 limit. They are at 90+ right now so they aren’t done with transfers out or they may have to reject incoming transfers or more likely grayshirt freshman.

        • Oregonlive.com has an article up about a d line guy entering the transfer portal. Near the end it says they have 93 players on scholarship.

          • What is certain about their recruiting is headlines before the actual players, so I’d accept they are way over the limit and they don’t mind guys leaving every year. It is always about headlines and news cycles for the entire program so high profile guys coming in via signing day or transfer portal is only a good thing for the marketing machinery. The fallout and casualties aren’t of concern. I also consider the type of glory hounds they recruit would be contributing to the high transfer numbers as well, but no way to distinguish from the outside.

          • Wonder how this all goes down actually?
            For instance, when a player signs a Pac12 NLI, arent they guaranteed a 4 year scholarship?
            So then a place like oregon goes out and oversigns by 10 players. So you know they’re going to require players to transfer. But can you force a player to transfer? I mean, some of these guys are in the middle of degree programs. What if they hit the portal but dont get picked up by another school? Are they just fucked? All because their head coach saw more stars available and got greedy?

          • I should have read the whole thread. Thought this comment was about oregon state instead of oregon.
            Saw they had a DLineman hit the portal today, and OSU coaches started following him too. Keanu Williams

    • Can you imagine what the Giants would look like with an Allen Lazard or Deandre Hopkins–or both–with Hodgins?
      Slayton is likely gone, since they’ve cut his pay to the minimum, after failing to trade him. He seems to have a drop on an easy pass and catch in every game I watch.

  74. There’s a rumor that our RB coach, Coach Steward, is taking the vacant Baylor job.
    No idea if it’s valid. Would suck if true, i like that guy

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      Odd way to start an article:
      “USC will have a bye week before the Pac-12 Conference title game.”
      The second sentence should be:
      “USC will also have a bye week during the Pac 12 Conference title game.”

      • I just realized this is the first Dolphin Boy article I’ve read in several years.
        He’s not wrong about UW’s Novemeber scheduling.

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        Do they usually do it on Pac12 network?
        Nobody tunes into their network for games, surprised they think people will for a schedule release

        • https://pac-12.com/article/2023/01/16/2023-pac-12-football-schedule-be-announced-wednesday-jan-18-10-am-pt-11-am-mt

          I’ll be tuning in just to see what it’s like, but expecting it to be a week by week schedule with analysts talking about the different matchups that weekend. It’s no different than ESPN doing a CFP rankings announcement. It’s more for a slow roll out for media members to get the info at the same time and allowing Pac-12 to control the announcement without any leaks.

          • How accurate is Clownzano if there isn’t anything released prior to the show to avoid leaks?

            PAC12 needs to get it right and not favor USC, Oregon, Washington just because of tv revenue.

            Utah and OSU will be fighting an up hi lol battle if the conference begins by stacking the deck to favor certain big
            Games
            For tv at the end of the year.

          • I don’t think his article has much merit outside of a few games that were already announced. There are other articles with more ambiguity, meaning, USC and Oregon will play in the month of November; whereas Canzano gives specific dates based on his assumptions and “sources”. Since he’s not tied to any 1 media outlet anymore and he went independent, he can spin a narrative anyway he wants to spin.

            He has UW visiting Oregon State the week before the Civil War and before the Apple Cup. Makes for quality TV late in the season, but I’m assuming Oregon will play WSU the week before the Apple Cup and Civil War as well to keep mirrored regional teams playing each other.

    • Bummer. Moving to AHC position, so it’s cool that we can show our position coaches are getting promoted to AHC in the Big 12.

      JS makes good assistant hires, so I’m not too worried about this.

      • it effects our continuity of coaches, but at the same time, it makes sense why they haven’t announce the new contract extensions for assistant coaches and their salaries. Also makes sense why they didn’t add any RB’s in this class.

      • Yes, always great news when guys leave for promotions.

        And there should be a good size waiting line for the RB coach spot now with the amount of depth in that room.

  75. Who replaces Coach AJ Steward? Do you go after an up and coming RB coach from a G5 or FCS level or go after a guy like Bryan Applewhite at Nebraska whose salary is around $350,000 a year and his contract is up after the 2023 season? Who are the other options out there for RB coach?

  76. One of the pre-season baseball polls leaves the Beavs out. Not that there’s a ton of stock in pre-season polls, I actually am not surprised. All new outfield. Lost our ace. And need to replace about 70% of our total offense. The talent is there to be great but it’s young and, if they stick to the program, should be very good in a year or 2. Lots of people high on Stanford, UCLA and Oregon this year. I could also see Zona and ASU being good. ASU obviously struggled in recent years but I believe they have the top xfer class in the country and Bloomquist has many years of pro experience which has to be of some value in coaching, etc. All this to say, I think I’d be more surprised for the Beavs to finish in the top 3 of the Pac vs a 5-7 finish.

    • Great year for guys to step up and make the most of their opportunities. Trosky, Guerra and Kasper are ones to watch. See what they can do as everyday players.

      Turley is a guy who seems like he’ll live up to expectations. Reed is the wildcard.

  77. Anyone else paying attention to the NCAA case in appeals court over paying SAs like employees?

    The plaintiffs’ lawyer is recommending $2000.00 per month or $10,000 per SA per sport each year.

    I’m not arguing for or against it, but that would cripple a school like Oregon State. We currently have 559 SAs, so that would be an additional $5,690,000 coming out of the AD annual budget. They’re in a big hole right now, but Barnes says their budget plan will get them back to even in 7 years…if they can pull an additional $5,500,000 each year from the Reser remodel. Having to pay SAs as employees would wipe that out. The only viable solution would be to cut several major sports to reduce lost revenue and number of paid SAs.

    • Doesn’t seem like a good idea for students to argue that they are employees. I would think it would make scholarships non guaranteed and certainly schools would be able to cut students for performance reasons because they would fall under normal labor laws as employees.

      • Agreed. It seems like there are a lot of details that aren’t being considered.

        There is also the argument that it couldn’t be isolated to student athletes. What about band members who practice their asses off and also have to travel for games? There are many other examples of student groups that would have to be included. You couldn’t make it a profit sharing thing either because most of the sports lose money every year.

        • “There is also the argument that it couldn’t be isolated to student athletes.”
          There is?
          I hesitate to accept this, since it’s not true, and the straw man argument that follows is pointless.

    • Pretty unimaginative choice. Too bad. He won’t have a qb to throw him the ball unless he expects Chipster to figure out how an 18 yr old qb can have success.

      So we can’t convince a big receiver to come to Corvallis over Madison or Pasadena… Boosters are cutting checks and it will take the right guy who sees what is possible in Corvallis.

  78. How do collectives interact with schools and coaching staffs? Is it possible for a school to be penalized for recruiting violations based on the actions of a collective? Can a collective contact and offer a kid money if he’s not in the portal? I’m sure its already happening but isn’t legitimate?

    I wonder if/when we’ll see a day where the collective wants a kid, and is willing to pay him, and the staff wants someone else and there’s conflict between the staff and the collective.

      • NCAA has no enforcement mechanism right now so nothing will happen here.

        Real question is, who’s going to pay for him knowing that it’ll cost $10 million dollars or more? What about the next QB who comes in? Florida does have a 5 star committed in the next cycle who will want to get paid too. Give him the same deal and it would be like $6 mil per year for two QBs. Only one can play and if the other transfers after a year or two, that’s a lot of money down the drain. Then they’ll have to pay for the next up and coming QB. Never ending cycle for the schools that can afford it.

        But this is where I think things fall apart for high school recruits. They’ll find much smaller deals as incoming freshman in the near future because of the portal. Money will now shift toward proven players in the portal and all the tampering that comes with it.

      • “and recruits cannot sign any NIL deal contingent on going to any particular school”
        Anyone who would sign on to such an agreement is an idiot.
        I don’t care if the deal is honored. You’re an idiot.

        • Also:
          “Rashada’s representatives could file a lawsuit against the Gator Collective and maybe the athletic department.”
          duh
          stupid is as stupid does

          • Just try! Gator Collective Executive Advisory Board member Frank Hamner is “…a legal scholar and powerful litigator. ” Frank gonna do the gator chomp!

            After seeing news of this shit show, I had to look up the collective and see who is making complete asses of themselves in a very public manner…

            “About Gator Collective – The mission of Gator Collective is simple: to provide fans with exclusive access to, and experiences with, their favorite Gator athlete. By providing these experiences, it allows the Gator Collective to compensate athletes for their name, image, and likeness (NIL).”

            So Rashada, who hadn’t even performed as a FLA “student-athlete,” was someone’s favorite Gator so he was going to be getting paid in advance for people to access him at “…Gator Collective events… including Fan Fests, mixers, podcast appearances, and more.”

            https://gatorcollective.com/about/executive-advisory-board/

            Cheap looking website. Guess they were saving their money for Rashada.

          • Yeah… the published research in construction litigation is making me hot.
            I know someone who has subbed for Bryan Builders, and they’re a professional outfit.

          • Nil Dummy Question: Is a player paid the total, agreed amount upon signing?
            Nil Dummy Comment: ‘access’ to a player sounds really creepy.

          • It depends on the contract. NIL money is paid to a SA in exchange for a product or service. That could be anything from signing jerseys to appearing in a commercial. I doubt any organization dealing with that kind of money is going to give all of the money up front to anybody. Most likely they need to fulfill their side of the agreement or parts of it before they get paid.

  79. One month to baseball season,

    Only the perfect game poll has them in the top 25. Sounds about right with the amount of production to replace. But there is a lot of raw talent waiting to step up. Omaha is not a given but making it to supers is a realistic goal.

    • Should be interesting. I’m not sure about this team. I’m thinking this year is going to be a challenge. Too many holes to fill and raw talent may need some time to adjust. Wouldn’t be surprised to see this team miss the postseason this year.

        • Ha! No I’m much more optimistic about football but I do have some concerns with the talent we’re losing. The O-line should be good but Kipper is a big loss. QB should be better but we’ll see. WR is a huge concern in my mind. Also think losing Speights is a bigger loss than folks realize. Same with Wright at DB. I think the o/u will be 8.5 and I’d take the over but there’s a lot that has to fall into place.

          For the baseball team, I’m predicting middle of the pac. Stanford, Arizona, UCLA, ASU, and Oregon will be tough this year. Utah, WSU, UW and Cal probably in bottom half. Beavs likely to finish anywhere between 4th and 7th. Doubt P12 gets more than 5 bids so postseason is probably 50-50 IMO

          • I posted on this the other day. It would be more surprising to me that we finish in the top 3 than it would be to finish in the 5-7 range. We lost so much production and a dominate Ace. Talent is young, and for the most part, untested at the college level. Having a true freshman start or get significant time is ok when there’s a lot of experience around them, but we could be seeing a lot of freshman or rs-freshman playing extensively and that’s a bit unnerving.

            Pitching could be a real wild card too. A good portion of the young arms last year did not look good. Brown, hunter and kmatz will be key but we need a lot of arms to step up.

  80. Beavs got a pretty favorable schedule, no tough back to backs until UW and Oregon at the end of year. Bye week in the middle of the season.

    • I like it. Utah has to travel on the short week to OSU, after playing UCLA. Toughest games are probably those last 2.

      OREGON STATE BEAVERS

      Sept. 2: at San Jose St
      Sept. 9: UC Davis
      Sept. 16: San Diego St
      Sept. 23: at Wazzu
      Sept. 29: Utah
      Oct. 7: at California
      Oct. 14: UCLA
      Oct. 21: bye
      Oct. 28: at Arizona
      Nov. 4: at Colorado
      Nov. 11: Stanford
      Nov. 18: Washington
      Nov. 24: at Oregon

      • Let’s see who everyone plays before coming to the Beavs,

        at SJSU – at USC
        UC Davis – Texas A&M Commerce (have never heard of this school)
        SDSU – UCLA
        at WSU – Northern Colorado
        Utah – UCLA
        at Cal – ASU
        UCLA – WSU
        at AZ – bye week for both teams going into game but at WSU before the bye
        at Col – at UCLA
        Stanford – at WSU
        UW – Utah
        at Oregon – at ASU

        Kind of funny, getting UCLA and WSU sloppy seconds on half the schedule. A fairly favorable balance there too. Only AZ coming off a bye but so will the Beavs.

        For the home games, only Stanford is coming off a road game the prior week.

      • But OSU will be at WSU so they will have to travel back home. With OSU’s luck it will be a 7:30-8 pm Kickoff in Pullman and Utah will kick off at 12:30 lol. Could negate some of the edge for OSU.
        But as you say the game is in Reser so that could be difference.

    • It is better than it was in 2022 and 2021 as we don’t have back to back tough games early in the season, but at the end of the season.

      Schedule is up on the Beavs website:
      https://osubeavers.com/sports/football/schedule

      2-Sep at SJSU
      9-Sep UC Davis
      16-Sep SDSU
      23-Sep at WSU
      29-Sep Utah(Fri)
      7-Oct at CAL
      14-Oct UCLA
      21-Oct BYE
      28-Oct at UofA
      4-Nov at Buffs
      11-Nov Stanford
      18-Nov UW
      24-Nov at Oregon (Fri)

    • Cal has the roughest schedule. Oregon State, Utah, USC and Oregon in a row. But they get a bye week in the middle of all the beatdowns! Also have UW, UCLA and Auburn.

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    I’m calling 12-0 and a magical season just based on the schedule laying so good.
    Utah is the big game at home in the first half but should be winnable.
    UW and Oregon will be huge but neither will be as good offensively as they were this year. Nix won’t repeat the numbers he had and UW loses a couple of key oline guys.

    JS has a chance for the epic season, I hope they can seize the opportunity.

      • So far, has this offseason moved the Beavs past Utah, Oregon, or Washington? I have faith in JS to bring the team together. But I am seeing a lot of portal additions from the top teams in the conference. We have some great young players coming in but most won’t be ready. I don’t expect Kelze to dominate as a freshman.

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          Kelze will dominate as will a few others who will contribute. This team was 1 QB away in 2022 and almost all our starters on defense rested against ASU in 2022 and we destroyed them. Our young guys are talented, but have been behind 5-7 year seniors. Hard to beat out that experience and talent. Next man up.

          • You really think he’ll have an impact on the DLine as a true FR? He’s already on campus correct? So he can lift and train, get ready for spring ball.

            That would be great. I think even it it takes him 1/2 to 2/3 of the season, and on the back end he’s a contributor.

            It seems like there’s going to be more impact players on the D to throw at opposing QBs, and they can’t block everyone. I do think the Beavers could use more speed…often close to getting to the QB last year, but not quite fast enough.

          • He is the 8th best recruit ALL TIME to Oregon State. So yes, he will start game 1 and be an impact player in the first 3 games and build each week. Schedule sets him up for success.

          • Kelze’s gonna get some sacks but he’s not going to “dominate”. He’ll probably get the starting EDGE midway through the season but the dude needs a year or two to become a serious problem.

    • Predicted Utah as a loss, now see it as a win based on where they land in the schedule.

      I don’t think OSU has ever swept both rivals in the last two weeks of the season. I see a split being hard to come by.

      10-2, top 15 ranking.

    • I think teams should just forfeit now. We can’t compete with that kind of “Hype”. LOL This screams Anderpants and “Bring your ‘A’ Game!” cringe type video. almost made me have PTSD watching it. Some things are meant to be recorded and that should have been one of them.

        • Coach Brew!! LOL. That’s all him and he’s always been like that. Hired by the dumbest AD in world history to be HC at the University of MInnesota.
          Previously a TE coach and recruiting coordinator for Mack Brown! He had a piece of the Rose Bowl turf installed in the practice facility. His chili is hot!
          Introductory presser was unbelievable. He can sling more bullshit than a manure spreader!
          The guy can recruit, so I will give him that. He was classy when he got fired and has never said anything bad about his time at MInnesota.

          • He is a great recruiter. That is how he has had job after job. There used to be video from his second year at MN that was awesome lol. The team was 7-0 and we were starting to think that maybe he can actually coach? He was miked up before the game and walking through the warm ups.
            It’s like an over-the-top parity of a stereotyped football coach. The ESPN announcers say, and I quote, “I could play for that guy!” LOL

    • Can’t watch that…

      Can someone produce a graphic of Phil Knight and dieon sanders as sluts at a party vying desperately for affirmation and attention?

      Never mind, ESPN will do it every Saturday

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        First the whining, then this nugget…”While harsh, there are a lot of opportunities for the Buffs to be on College Gameday right off the bat for the first time in years.”

        Some people say any publicity is good publicity.

      • Newsflash: Buffs don’t get to play Kansas every year, although, even that would likely be a loss next year… and not just for them.

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      Anything that gets attention for a team in conference is good for the Beavs. Without a viable media contract, the conference will fall apart and OSU will almost certainly be relegated to the MWC.

      The best combination for us is hype without actual on-field results.

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        We will not go to MWC when we win the Pac-12 in 2023. consecutive 10 win seasons will show 2022 was not a fluke and Oregon State has arrived to contender status. I see Oregon State going to Big 12 before the MWC tbh. We have the Academic standards, degree programs etc. for that prestige. We’re no different than Iowa State or Kansas State for crying out loud.

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          They care about TV viewers and fan base and OSU has a poor turn out. Unfortunately, outside of Oregon, the Beavs fan base is limited.
          It’ll take more than consecutive 10 win seasons to win over fans. It’ll take a decade of Top 10 finishes or a few runs in the CFP. Sad to say, but its reality.

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            You could say the same thing about Iowa State and Kansas State. Lol at this point its about coast to coast and alliances in the future. From a fan base stating, “no one cares about X team except those in that state.” Is a false statement. Look at Oregon State tv viewership vs Cincinnati, BYU, Houston, and UCF. I bet you its the same or better. Another factor is fan travel to games as well. By adding Oregon State, baseball viewership will improve. Basketball is not where it should be, but it will be if athletes know they’ll be playing in Texas and midwest it will improve our recruiting not hinder our recruiting.

          • If further realignment happens and pac12 disbands. B12 priority is to try to grab Utah/Colorado/theAZ schools. If the B1G don’t grab cal/Stanford the b12 will try to get them also just to get a foothold in California. Although Stanford probably can afford to be independent than to go to B12. If B12 really want to go PNW it will go UW and Ducks first.

          • The rumors are UW, Oregon, Cal, and Stanford to B1G; Utah, Colorado, ASU, Arizona to BigXII. With current realignment for 2024 is as follows:

            Pac-12 = 10 teams
            BigXII = 14 teams(-Texas and -OU; +BYU, +Cincy, +Houston, +UCF)
            B1G = 18 teams(+USC, +UCLA)
            SEC = 16 teams(+Texas, +OU)
            ACC = 14 teams

            Total of 72 teams and not all of those teams will have winning records at the end of their regular seasons in all sports.

            With another realignment, it would be as follows:

            (Pac-12 = 2-3 teams left if not taken by BigXII or B1G)
            BigXII = 18 teams(taking Utah, CO, AZ, ASU) or 20 teams(taking OSU and Wazzu)
            B1G = 20 teams(addition of UW and Oregon) or (Stanford and ND) or (Stanford and CAL)
            SEC = 16 teams(finding 4 more teams to poach from ACC most likely to get to 20 teams)
            ACC = 14 teams(needing to find 9 best G5 teams and add ND to get to 20 teams)

            For reference, 49 teams including BYU and ND had a .500 or better regular season record. By each conference getting to 20 teams each, you would have 80 teams total in 4 conferences equaling 8 conferences of 10 teams. Say you get 47-55 teams that end with a .500+ regular season record in football only. These Super Conferences would then create their own Division essentially. There would be no need to include the MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, Conf USA, MAC, and remaining independents with the Super Conferences. They would have D-IA and D-IB.

          • “There would be no need to include the MWC, AAC, Sun Belt, Conf USA, MAC, and remaining independents with the Super Conferences.”

            This is true, if the NCAA no longer exists or pretends it ever had any power.
            It would be like the similar stupid argument that the NCAA was making a profit on what rights they did have.

            Just make the whole Euro sports academy structure, like a real market would create, instead of us paying to subsidize this crap.

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      I couldn’t agree more with one of the Twitter replies to that video. “I’ve never rooted against a team as hard as I’m rooting against the Colorado Buffalo’s next season.”

    • Saw an NFL draft projection that had the NY Giants AND Bills each taking a WR early and i thought how dumb that was given Giants now have Hodgins and Bills had him…

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    We were talking about our WR room the other day and I mentioned Tongue cant catch. Guess the coaches agree, because he’s been converter to ILB. Think that position will fit his skill set better. He hits hard and has pretty good speed. Could help backfill after the loss of Speights

      • No need at OLB but I was wondering about safety as well. Like everyone said he can hit and was a WR so should have the speed to cover just can’t catch. It’s like the saying “that’s why they’re playing defense.” I could see him fitting in at either spot. I could see him being like an even faster Fisher or a jalen moore type player. There is a decent need at both positions.

        • Didn’t a lot of schools recruit him at safety out of high school? Seems like a more natural fit and just makes sense with his dad and everything.

        • Nickel/will LB seemed like the ideal position for him since Grant’s departure presents a challenge at free safety. There may be concern that the ILB position doesn’t have many coverage guys.

          Either way, it’s a good move.

    • His Crescent Valley HS coach told Eggers that he’s been “poached” by the SEC and that it’s probably Alabama. Don’t know if he has inside information or just speculating.

      • It sucks losing him but I think it’s going to be a good change. We’ve gotten better talent at LB now and it’s time for these guys to step up. Easton Mas-Arnold was already playing well so now we need Melvan Jordan and perhaps the new Utah xfer or Miller to be in that 2nd spot. I’m curious about Franke too. I know he’s listed as OLB but in the spring game he looked liked a physical monster out there. From a size perspective, seems like ILB would be an easy switch for him. Too bad he was injured after the scrimmage…think he would’ve gotten some playing time this season.

          • He’s a capable NFL prospect now.
            Playing another year is a risk, no matter the school.
            If he didn’t have that talent, he wouldn’t be going somewhere he’s mythically not supposed to be good enough to play.
            Either he’s not good enough to play in the NFL, or he’s awesome and will start for a team in the mostest awesomest conference in the history of mostest awesomest conferences… and then be good enough to play in the NFL.

        • ^^this^^
          the back-ups are better.. in their upsides
          will miss Omar… think he’s got a lot of bad advice lately… think he should have been rewarded next year for all the hard work he’s put in… but the talent behind him is better and will not miss a beat

  83. I met some of my tailgating buddies for some indoor golf yesterday. Afterwords while drinking beer, pretty much everyone is agreeing that all this paying, NIL, transfer shit is lessening our interest in college football. I think they’re going to kill the golden goose with their own greed and stupidity.

    • I’m not sure who is to blame. I mean, the NCAA didn’t want to split the pie with players and now they don’t have to. The players are happy now because they get to make money even though I’m sure some of them aren’t. I mean how much money are guys making off of t-shirts.

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