Okay, as always, my ratings work like this: I break it down by star rating, and then within that group, I’ll rank them in order. So the second listed 3 star is my second favorite 3 star. Etc.
When I began going through this class, I thought Smith might have taken a quantum leap because every guy seemed to be ranked one star too low, but that changed around the Saez/Taylor range, and the class began to fade. But it’s still a really nice top heavy group who are probably ranked too low by the services.
Give me your thoughts on these guys. Put it in writing. Also let me know where you think I went wrong and why.
*****
Aidan Chiles – Smith did a great job addressing the QB problems in this class. Chiles is ranked as a 4-star, but that’s only because he signed with Oregon State. He’s a legit 5-star talent. Why? Well amazingly quick decision making, correct decision making, very good to excellent arm, viable runner, and great accuracy. Chiles had an amazing 73.4% completion percentage in high school, and a 38 to 5 TD to INT ratio his senior year. I’m the guy obsessed with QB efficiency, so of course I’m going to rank him a 5-star with those numbers. The guy is flat out legit.
Kelze Howard – Again, why only a 4-star? The OSU down bump. USC, Michigan, Oregon et al offers. Even better, on film he’s a complete monster. He looks like Lawrence Taylor just completely destroying the backfield. Sure, they are highlights, but you can see on film he has intensity and thrives off making those negative plays. Even the way he lines up. He is fidgeting just waiting to get to the QB. Total monster. Great in the run game on film, too. Complete player. Should play next year barring any setbacks or problems learning the defense, but physically, he is ready.
****
DJU – I only have him as a 4-star due to his performance vs some of the better defenses he’s faced, and maybe the mental aspect of his game isn’t completely refined yet. I think he might be a bit underrated as a runner. Really good runner and cutting ability for his size. Top 5 arm nationally. The Beavers should be able to have their QB throw the long ball and run on any given play, which is obviously huge. One yellow flag was his taunting on film, but given his comments on how he reached out to the staff, it quelled some of that. Shows maturity to be thinking about his future and best fit for his pro career. For me he’s a very high 4-star and possible dark horse Heisman candidate next year given that Smith is going to make him become mature (if he’s not already), and that Smith’s going to design the offense around his skill set rather than try to force the issue like Clemson seemed to do.
Montrel Hatten – Why is Hatten at 3-star at the recruiting sites? He’s at worst a 4-star, and maybe a 5-star. This is a clear NFL caliber player. He can get open with ease and make every catch, good speed, love how he cradles the ball into his body using hands. Looks like a taller Branden Cooks and even looks a bit like Jerry Rice. Come on. 3-star!?
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Leonard Ah You – Mission guy who we might never see, but boy does he look very good. Fast, aggressive, finishes plays. I just can’t get excited because this guy playing at OSU is a long way’s off, if ever.
Tastean Reddicks – Solid all around player. He seems to make the plays he should and nothing more. I’d say he doesn’t stand out as excelling at any one skill but also doesn’t stand out as having any flaws in his game. I question the 6’1 height…he doesn’t look or play that tall (unless all the DBs he’s facing are tall).
Isaiah Chisom – To me he’s in between a linebacker and safety, but that opens some options to get creative. Could be used as a hybrid player. I like him most as a hard hitting safety (who clearly excels at the delayed blitz on film) if Smith is willing to make that conversion.
Cooper Jenson – Hard to find good film on him, and I don’t know where Smith will play him. TE would be best, but in his film he looks pretty good as a RB, too. Maybe he’ll be used as a Christian McCaffrey type player from the TE slot? Could be unique. His diverse skills make creativity an option here.
Jermod McCoy – This guy is underrated. He’s intense as a WR and has ball skills, and as a DB he’s a ball hawk with great awareness. I think his best chance to see the field is as a DB. Promising player. I think he’s equal to the guy below, Zack Card. Similar players, and that’s a good thing.
Zack Card – I really like this guy. Not the flashiest recruit, but I see a guy with a lot of heart. Someone who will make the tough catch or tackle (depending where he ultimately lands) and fire up the team. He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and it somehow shows on film. I love guys like this. They eventually become team captains and great leaders. He’s fairly rated as a mid-upper 3-star, but guys who play intense like this are always better than the sum of their parts and could outperform. The same goes for McCoy. Card reminds me of a faster Wayne Chrebet.
Zakaih Saez – Underrated. Really nice looking pass rusher. Pushes the defender into the backfield and collapses the pocket while maintaining an obsessive focus on the target – the QB. Great foundation to build on, and by his Sophomore or Junior year he should be in the rotation.
Nikko Taylor – I don’t know Smith’s plans for Taylor. Sticking at DE? Call me crazy, but I think Taylor would make a better safety than edge rusher. He doesn’t finish some of his plays, and he doesn’t seem to show the fire or intensity you want to see out of pass rushers. Meanwhile, he has a great frame and body type to be a physical safety. I see only productive depth here if he sticks at DE, not a starter or a game changer. Not bad to have productive depth, though, so he’ll be a useful player.
Andre Piper-Jordan Jr. – Looks like a depth player. I’m not saying he looks bad, but I’m not seeing anything elite that stands out. He does appear to like playing physical, so that’s a plus. I like him more as a CB than WR. That physicality could be nice in the secondary. At this point I see a guy who will provide depth most of his career and maybe start or play more key roles as an upperclassman. Solid depth, though. There’s nothing bad in his game just nothing special.
David Wells – There’s really nothing wrong with his game. All around solid looking player with good hands. Should be a very good special teams player at worst, but possibly work into the WR rotation. A guy like this is tough. Nothing stands out either way other than his solid hands, so maybe put him on punt returns/ST and let him work his way up.
Jacob Anderson – Needs to get a bit lower on blocks and use leverage. Seems like a good frame but a project.
Thomas Collins – Really hard to analyze Swedish football, but his frame, intensity, and form all look good. But when I see him dominating the line, it looks like the opponents are really small (and terrible) for O-linemen. Low 3-star but there’s a lot of variance with this guy.
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Abraham Johnson – Seems a step slow, but I think he’s my favorite of the two stars guys. Might be able to beef up and be a slow, run stuffing DT who is in the rotation for depth.
Zander Esty – Not a huge fan of this guy. I hope I’m wrong. But he looks slow, un-athletic, and plays upright. He does serve a lot of pancakes, so there’s that…maybe he can grow into something, but right now I see a practice squad player.
Harlem Howard – Again, not seeing much here other than a practice squad player. Looks small and slings guys to the ground rather than tackles them. Poor form. Not a great frame to build upon. My hunch is he has a Champ Flemings type trajectory and wins up at a smaller, lower level school eventually.
Grant Starck – I’m not sure what the staff sees here. I don’t see it. I hope I’m wrong. I don’t even think this is a good depth/backup pick. There has to be a better use of this scholarship. But, if anyone can turn this guy into a player it’s coach M. My only hope is on that.
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On topic, every time I try to watch HS film it feels like I’m watching ant races or something, the quality is so low and usually taken from half a mile away I don’t know how you guys see anything noteworthy.
Thanks for the breakdown. I’m not going to watch film on each guy and I will trust that JS knows what he is getting.
In his presser KSt week on NLI day he had at least 8 guys on campus in January and mentioned at least 6-7 who he expected to be contributing next year.
It is on Joe Beaver show podcast they replayed his Zoom meeting presser. He was very excited about the 4 receivers.
As long as the defense stays as good or even improves the Dline, Beavs are in great shape.
By the way, Hank from GMC is going to let me know how to get a press pass this coming year. Apparently the applications are only open around July. Maybe I’ll see you guys from the press box this coming season!
Doubt you can pull that off without doxxing yourself. Could be worth it to hear you ask JS about his off-season diet and training routine when he shows up all yolked out for fall camp after you shamed him.
lol
That would be amazing
Thanks for these Angry. I always appreciate your eye for evaluation and player ratings.
You got these done a day early, you must be feeling better and excited about some of these recruits!
Hope your melon is good.
Thanks, buddy. Feeling good. I’m stoked about the upper half of the class. Every guy before Saez could easily have a star added at the main recruiting sites and I doubt many people would argue. Their methodology is poor at best in limiting the number of each star.
Howard absolutely destroyed against HS competition, often double or triple teamed and it didn’t matter, what a monster. Big jump between his JR and SR year film too, bodes well for continued improvement.
Agree him and Chiles would be 5-star rated if they’d signed elsewhere. DJU is a 4-star based on his struggle to find his game consistently at Clemson. Hoping to see a Luton like late development under JS and Lindgren.
One suggested edit would be to put their position behind their name, with a primary and secondary “Andre Piper-Jordan Jr., WR/DB” if you think they project better to a different position.
Starck was PFF’s #3 rated OT in the MWC this year. Did you just watch HS film?
Based on that, he should be able to come in and compete right away.
If he was OT in the MWC, is he projected to play Guard in the PAC and maybe a backup OT?
Had no idea. I just watched his HS film, and he looked really bad. Someone at Nevada deserves a pay raise.
His father is a coach, and he’s a late bloomer, thus, the MWC offer and huge development.
We will have no fall-off on the o-line.
Three factors often lead to a quality player: Father was a coach, multi sport athlete, wrestler (especially linemen).
Starck didn’t wrestle as far as I can tell but he checks the other two boxes.
It is extremely rare for Lineman to be in a place in their development to be able to contribute right away as a teenager, especially on the outside. They need 2 years of training, nutrition, and proper coaching to get ready. It’s even hard to find them on dynasty mode in NCAA 14.
I think you have Piper-Jordan and Collins underrated. Many recruiting experts really like Jordan as a CB. I think if Collins played in Cali competition he would be higher, but your right, tough to evaluate with the level of competition. You have Starck pretty low. He was all league at UNR and should be a battling Bloomfield for a starting job. Would also allow Fuaga to move inside.
Collins is impossible to evaluate. He dominates, but the opponents don’t look like US high school players. I thought my review of Jordan was fair. Will rewatch the tape tomorrow. What’s elite about his game? Nothing stood out.
Granted Nemac is a Duck honk and looks down on our program but he says of Piper-Jordan:
“I’ve seen Andre Piper-Jordan Jr. first hand and have him graded as a solid four-star prospect.
The 6-foot-1, 170-pound cornerback was the spring MVP of Ford Sports Performance, one of the nation’s top 7-on-7 teams, and has the combination of size and athleticism to develop into an all-conference performer at the collegiate level.”
Nemec also thought ducks QB Ty Thompson was a cant miss QB prospect. He’s too emotional to effectively rate players.
I see him as a really fluid and fast CB. His top end speed is him at a lope.
Sorry… only looking at Piper-Jordan.
Kid looks like Weathersby, reincarnated.
I’m unfamiliar with Hatten, but he’s got quite the offer list, among the 20 offers are them Baylor, Boston College, Colorado, Kansas State, Kansas, Ole Miss, TCU, Texas Tech…
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Montrel-Hatten-141704/RecruitInterests/
Smith said all we are speed guys with great route/catch skills and he didn’t really mince words about 2-3 competing right away.
He mentioned Collins, Nikko and Howard all competing for time on Dline right away.
Said the Nevada guy would be pushing to starter and add great depth.
He had a caveat about another group signing late signing period and they would be watching who was available as well as any others from high school ranks they might take.
Theme was “ always adding talent to compete at every position” so if everyone understands they aren’t being singled out (BG) but it is a good thing for the whole team and it is genuinely merit based, all should see it as a good thing to build talent/focus and depth at all positions.
OT: looking at national team defensive statistics, OSU was 27th Total Defense, 18th in Rush Defense, 14th in Pass Efficiency Defense, 40th in First Down Defense, 5th in 4th Down Conversions, and 2nd in Red Zone D.
Not in the top 50 for Third Down Defense, Team Sacks or Team TFLs.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/467
The very definition of a bend but don’t break defense.
Improve the pass rush next year and the defense can go from good to elite. Which in turn gives the offense more chances, which will grind opposing defenses down with a power run game.
you mean… run the ball?
Nice review. I generally agree but would swap Piper-Jordan and Card. Plus move Starck up to lower Tier 3*. Physically he’s not the same player he was out of HS. Improved diet, strength, conditioning, and technique. He’s a a good depth guy at minimum and will likely start at guard IMO.
Agree with Bill that this D could be elite next year if we can stake a step forward on DL
If anyone can find footage of Starck at Nevada I’ll take a look at that and reassess. I based my comments off the HS tape, which was really bad.
Watched what I could off of their game highlights from this season there were on youtube.
Don’t think you’ll find any specific game film on him unless he puts it out there himself. Nevada offensive stats were pretty bad.
He reportedly had offers from Oregon State, Cal, Syracuse, Colorado State, Washington State, Tulane, BYU and Hawaii when he entered the portal. Not great but he was someone who other programs saw something in.
At worst, a good depth player. A guy who comes in on the jumbo packages like Morano did all year.
He also had offers from Missouri, Mississippi State, Arizona State,Arizona, and Liberty in addition to all the schools you mentioned.
He posted a 2-minute clip on Twitter when he first entered the portal: https://twitter.com/grantstarck/status/1598783190461984769?s=46&t=HovQsoexrvO-LL2IIlrAcA
I think this is pretty spot on. My personal opinion 3 players I’d move up.
Chisom 4* – best linebacker I’ve seen Beavs land maybe ever
Thomas Collins 4*- level of comp is bad, but man he looks like a straight bad ass on film. Might take a year but I think he could be elite level
Piper- Jordan super high 3*- dude has all the tools, just needs more experience to show. I think he is going to be very good/nfl potential all over him
I’d bump down ah you from your rankings. All very good points and I feel like pretty dang spot on. Thanks for doing this
NP, do it every year. It would be interesting if someone went back and looked at my track record. I’m surprised none of my stalkers have done that yet. Or maybe they have, and they didn’t like the accuracy. ;)
I think you have a high rate of accuracy in evaluating players. Some misses occasionally and that’s to be expected, and seems to be more common with players who have less film (CB Nelson as an example). I think you overrated Gebbia as “almost flawless” and I think a 5*? The guy was smart, but I think telegraphed throws and threw too low, maybe over-striding on his throw to try and get more on the ball(?). Injuries lead to him getting an “incomplete” anyway. I read his hamstring was completely disconnected at one end, and it took him a long time to get back.
But what I notice is often on game day players you rated well in recruiting show up and are making plays. Lolohea comes to mind as an example.
I know you don’t spend as much time on this as you used to with other interests now but appreciate it. I trust your rankings more than the the recruiting sites.
I also appreciate NiceBeavers recruiting news and updates greatly.
Gebbia was a bad call.
Nolan was too
I’m not sure Gebbia was a bad call the more I think about it. It seems like a bad call, and that was my first instinct. What do we really know about him, though? Right as he began to trend upward that loser Duck took him out.
He had flaws. A weakish arm and a lot of passes deflected, but he was a good leader and pretty good in the short passing game. I don’t think he’d ever overcome those deflations, which is obviously bad, but he was trending upward before the career ending injury. I don’t think we’ll ever know that counterfactual and what would have happened. Tough to say. He’d probably be “okay” but not great as I thought and hoped, so in that sense it was a bad call. But he was trending up, so who knows. Batted passed don’t show up on HS film, so you don’t know that until you see it.
People get on me, and I get on recruiting sites, but Smith is the guy ultimately saying these guys are all players. He probably misses more than anyone. Lol.
My evaluation/write up of Nolan was pretty fair, though I gave him one too many stars.
You may have missed it in the last thread, but I pulled up some of your rankings to try and see who might be contributing next year:
WR Jimmy Valsin – “Appears to be the Beavs answer to their undersized WR problem. Fast, agile, and cuts on a dime. Nice looking WR. Good win out of Texas. Only in-State offer was Houston, which is a bit of a concern, but this looks like a guy who has upside. I like what I see.”
Jack Velling (6’ 4”) – “Potential game-changing TE. Fluid runner with soft hands. Yale offer suggests high intelligence, so he should move up the depth chart fast.” Well recognized as a contributor already, but just looking back at the ranking.
TE Jake Overman (6’ 4”) — “Nice blocker and pass catcher. Very fluid and a motor. I can see this guy being a captain one day. That type of heart somehow shows on film. Hope he stays at TE because he looks elite there.” He should be on the field a bunch next year.
Specialist? Kord Shaw – “My hunch is he might be a Colletto replacement.” This will be interesting if true. It seems like Shaw has been getting big.
Some interesting D players we might see showing up in the stat sheet?
DL Omarion Fa’amoe – “Looks legit. And he has an LSU offer. When was the last time OSU beat LSU for a recruit? Good size, fast, and plays mean. Disruptive player.”
DL, Takari Hickle – “I think this guy is underrated. Fast, physical, and finishes plays.”
I hope to see these guys getting reps and making plays by the back third of the season at least…
The entire ranking system needs an overhaul. Something like “projected win shares” to take s concept from baseball. A guy like Colletto was probably a 2-star on every site (I have no idea if I even ranked him), but he was responsible for a handful of wins, and that is “5-star” ability no matter what it looks like or shows up as in the stat sheet. I might try to rework this next year with a concept like that in mind. Stars are very bad methodology.
Not sure how to include “football IQ” in rankings but Hammer’s IQ was off the charts. Applies to off/def/sptms.
Heard he was responsible for directing the SpTms plays that resulted in at least a couple blocked punts.
In 2020, Gebbia had a really good PFF rating before the injury. He had a low “big time throw” %,
but also an insanely low “turnover worthy play” % and he was pressured more often than our QB’s were in 2021 and 2022. Statistically, he was a near perfect game manager.
He definitely had something brewing before the injury.
I went back and did this at one point. You were marginally better than the 247 rankings, but not by a huge margin. I can’t imagine anyone projecting HS athletes onto “finished” college players with high accuracy, let alone just on the basis of highlight film. There are just too many variables.
Thanks for taking the time to evaluate the film. Always look forward to this annual post. I havent watched the films for hardly any players this year, but enjoy reading everybody’s critiques.
Came across a link to a Pac12 podcast where the topic is OSU with the DJU signing. Have listened to this “Field of12” podcast before on other episodes. They seem to do a good job of giving unbiased opinions. Will have to check this one out later tonight if our power ever comes back on
https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf12/status/1607941169144537089?t=SLyG3igTmelzjDUQOE4E5Q&s=19
OT:Bad football alert! OkSt qb Sanders has already entered the portal and not playing, Wisc fired Chryst, hired Fickell, Mertz has already transferred out and ESPN is covering it like the game means something. Strange that Fickell is on the sideline with headset and looking like he is running things. Must be a tumultuous month to be a Badger. And on top of that, Beth Mowins is on the call…I think I’ll tune out and not check back in.
Should have seen the Louisville – Cincinnati game. Both teams head coaches had left and the Louisville coach left for Cincy! Awkward!
That’s one of the real downsides of all of the coaching and player free agency and at some point the people paying for the right to broadcast games are going to restructure deals to address this, try to impose requirements, or maybe have some kind of opt-out clauses.
I didn’t know Chryst used to be the OC/QBs coach for OSU.
He used to coach Smith.
hello?
Chryst and Riley are like best friends.
Thanks for sharing your evaluations. I too thought Chiles looked special, should be fun to see how he develops. I think it’s amazing we have DJ who can help with that development.
Here is a clip I came across of Stark. https://twitter.com/grantstarck/status/1599802063399317504?s=20&t=6nD04cZUwwe-NB_AmXCYAg
DJU sounds pretty mature and of good “team first” character in this piece:
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/college/football/2022/12/27/clemson-quarterback-cade-klubnik-replaces-d-j-uiagalelei-in-orange-bowl/69758046007/
“He said to just go be me and don’t be anything different,” Klubnik said of Uiagelelei,…”We thanked each other for everything we’ve been to each other,” Klubnik said. “He’s excited for me and I was excited for him…
Thanks for posting OOB! I don’t see any concerns with him especially with the culture of the team. It reminds me of the culture coach Whittingham created at Utah. He basically tells every new player that the team won’t adapt to them, and that they will need to adapt to the team culture. I’m sure Smith had a similar conversation. It’s taken years to get the Gary Andersen off the team, don’t think he wants one bad apple to ruin it.
Good Lord, Grayson McCall decides to play in Coastal Carolina’s meaningless bowl game despite being in the transfer portal. He then gets somersaulted on a first-quarter touchdown run and lands on his head in the endzone. Doesn’t return to the game, interim coach says he has an “upper-body injury”.
I saw that too, feel terrible for the guy. Hopefully the injury is minor and doesn’t affect his next year.
OT: The Washington Post identifies DJU #1 as the biggest name to change teams so far:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/12/28/college-football-transfer-portal/
References OSU “crushing FLA” in LV bowl.
Nice press for OSU in a major media market, and an indication of the media interest that will likely follow DJU to Corvallis.
Again, good problem to have if managed well. I think of the attention not only that DJU will get, but teammates. Martinez will likely benefit for example and get more recognition than he would otherwise…Colleto could have benefited greatly if he were here next season…
The stage is set for OSU to have all favor if it comes down to a beauty contest to get into the playoffs.
DJ U redemption story, superstar profile; OSU program on the rise and little engine that could narrative for lazy journalists.
Does it help with shitty refs biases?
Hope so. Usually the better teams get the calls. Would be nice to get some next year. At a minimum, I’d love to stop worrying about how the ball is spotted
some refs like to spot the ball a yard short, sometimes.
I will never get used to those spots.
It’s strange to witness increased media chatter about Beaver football on the basis of single player transferring.
This was something that I’d only see (rightly or wrongly) about Oregon.
Regardless, increased press, and favorable as well, is good like ppl have mentioned above and over the course of the last couple topics.
An article i read said that ’21 bowl games averaged 4.7M viewers, including CFP.
This year’s OSU/FLA Vegas bowl drew 2.5M viewers, out drawing UCLA/Kentucky MBB (2M) and Celtics-Lakers (1.7M) that aired the same week.
I noted that DJU’s Twitter announcement that he committed to OSU had 1.7M views and counting. I imagine OSU FB twitter the last 3-5 years hasn’t had 1.7M views…
I know Smith will continue to emphasize team first and selflessness. And i expect DJU will buy in based on the articles OOB linked. But i do think OSU sports media needs to be planning for a lot more (good) work in ’23!
OT: But if you received the latest copy of the Oregon Stater Magazine (title IV issue) the runner on the cover is Kathy Weston Kathy was a 1975 Pan Am games Gold Medalist, 1976 Olympian and anchor of the OSU’s 1979 National championship winning 4x800m relay team. (My mom is the other OSU runner). In my household growing up there wasn’t much talk of politics and the only strong political opinion I was aware my parents had was that was Jimmy Carter was the worst president in history because of his decision to withdraw from the 1980 Moscow games. This opinion was formed because it impacted many athletes, like Kathy, who missed the opportunity represented their country.
http://www.journalgraphicsdigitalpublications.com/epubs/OSUALUMNIASSOCIATIONINC/OregonStaterWinter2023/mobile/index.html?doc=$docid
If the Beavs can get find a Bosa or JJWatt on the roster to become a game wrecking pass rusher that demands a double team, would the defense be elite?
I’m wondering if that will be Lolohea or perhaps Howard.
Both of those guys can do that. We might have two.
The return of Grant and Jackson?
Damn that was a fun defense to watch.
I don’t think Lolohea has that kind of speed(?), hope Howard does.
MMD does. I expect him to be a factor next year after redshirting this year.
Cool. He’ll get better in the back half of the season with experience. Also interested to see DL Fa’amoe an Hickle in the mix…Lolohea, Howard…there looks to be a lot of depth next year.
Quincy Wright, too.
This team is loaded at DEnd. Do we just double A gap blitz every third down?
Yes I think if we had one of the top 10 best DE’s in the history of football on our roster it would make our defense that much better.
I think the Beavs are contenders for WR Transfer Grant Dubose out of UNC Charlotte.
That may not sound like something to be excited about, but Dubose is really one of those under the radar guys that could make a difference at the P5 level.
Had almost zero recruiting interest out of HS, went to Miles college which had their season cancelled due to Covid. Ended up quitting school and working odd jobs until he convinced the HC at UNC Charlotte to bring him in. Ended up gaining 900 yards in 2021 and 800 in 2022, for a pretty bad UNC Charlotte team.
6’3″ 200 lbs with speed and also a strong body. He’s a guy I’ll be keeping an eye on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PNzA3WUMrw
https://247sports.com/Player/Grant-DuBose-46137692/
Sweet I like this guy
I like his size and the fact that he hasn’t given up on his dream. Shows a lot of heart and pretty good production.
I was thinking the same thing! Love the hard working kids willing to pursue their passion.
You know that a kid like this is going to work his butt off.
He would be an exciting addition to the wr room and sounds like a good attitude to keep after his dream as well as a very productive stat line.
Looks pretty comfortable on the inside slant routes.
I hear a story like that and think geez, why not reward the program that gave you your only shot and stick with them rather than just using them as a stepping stone. Call me old-fashioned.
Charlotte’s coach got fired so he has a new staff coming in. Not much left to be loyal to.
I would hope former Beaver athletes are loyal to the school, athletic department, and Beaver Nation, not just whoever their coaching staff was at the time.
Free agency & NIL changed the tune of devotion or remaining loyal; fewer professional players have double-digit careers with a single team.
In fairness to the transfer, if the coaching staff changed and the incoming staff didn’t make an effort to keep him, there’s no reason to waste remaining playing time.
When it comes to FCS schools, they aren’t necessarily “stepping stone” universities like JUCO colleges generally are for kids. When the coach who brought you in had to be convinced to take you in and gets fired, question yourself in thinking if the next coach will appreciate your hard work. Also, what about their QB? What year was he in 2022? If a Senior, then ya, move on and see if a G5 or P5 school will give you a look and take you on in their program. Look at Chad Johnson and TJ Houschmenzadah(both transferred to OSU from JUCO/FCS schools).
He has the height we need at WR, is fast, and appears to have a chip on his shoulder. Only issue I see is DB’s are staying with him through his route running and is using his height and physicality to get the ball. Needs to work on his cuts out of his breaks in his routes to get separation. Another key I saw was his ability to adjust to the ball like Chad Johnson was known to do.
looks more like cris carter with the body separation.
Watched some of the Clemson vs FSU on the ACC Network today. DJ has an incredible arm and is an imposing QB overall to say the least. The running lanes that the backs are going to have just because of DJ being on the field will take the running game to the next level. Smith is going get him to a place he didnt know he could get to.
It seems odd that Clemson was so bad on 3rd downs with him at qb. Maybe they just abandon the run and tried to make him a zone read qb or take shots downfield too much, easily predictable if that was the theory.
I agree with you. If JS and BL have the plan to make him be an actual qb as part of a TEAM offense instead of the do everything 5*, it will be delightful
To watch.
I’m hoping for a storybook matchup in the playoffs between OSU and Clemson.
Their o-line was pretty crap.
Granted, the only non-Beav or non-Duck game I watched this year was Clemson @ SoCar, and they all seemed to play so slow.
Also, Florida looked extremely slow. It was the first thing I said, when watching the game on tape… to be followed quickly by Pat whatshisname talking about the speed of the SEC and whatever.
My eyes… Pat whatshisname’s words… did not jibe.
Are we Tarheels fans tonight?
Eh…it’s kind of a win-win. As legit contenders, it really does benefit the Beavs for the conference to do well. But it’s always nice to see Nike lose and we don’t want them to jump us in final polls.
hmm…CFP doesn’t release final rankings. Just AP and Coaches. Beavs have a good shot to jump up there. Oregon was ahead in both polls, I think the Beavs jump them no matter what and probably LSU too.
Nike won’t slip if they win
Rooting for oregon to lose. Beavs need to finish season ranked higher
FTD
Hey Angry, looked back at some of your previous recruiting reports, nice trip down memory lane.
Also, you’re damn good. Pretty accurate.
This Collins kid could be overlooked. Simon Sandberg was rated 2 star by you, and while he won’t go down as a legendary Beav, he played a big role this season. Let’s all hope Collins can be as good, or better, and that it’s not a wasted scholarship. He may be the steal of the class right there.
Is there a Swedish pipeline I’m unaware of, are they the new Polynesians!?!?
They’re the “mononesians”.
Beavs have been in contact with Kent St safety transfer JoJo Evans.
https://twitter.com/jojoo2x?t=FF5qMCghMLoLxsXOX1HbEw&s=09
Not sure why this post landed here
Bo Pix doing well….lol.
Hard to blame him for the int, but later the throw into the turf to an open man is all on Nix, and something we’ve seen before.
Go Heels!
thanks for the assessment Angry. You’re good at it, but not as good as you are assessing OSU coaches. :)
Yeah, thank goodness Casey’s warts are retired
Why?
Casey with warts was better than 99% of college coaches out there.
Do you not appreciate the man for himself, instead, needing to somehow lionize him beyond his reality?
So Lanning is all world, national champ, yada, yada…maybe hole hired the wrong fucking coaches?
But WOW can he recruit!
Somewhere uncle phil looks for the Malox.
When is the last time OSU football had a better record than UO at the end of the season?
2006. 10-4 Matt Moore and Yvenson Bernard team that beat Missouri in the Sun Bowl.
Yucks finished 7-5 and got crushed by BYU in the Vegas Bowl.
In 2016 both finished 4-8 with the Beavs winning at home 34-24 with Marcus MacMaryion. Then GA brought in Luton.
Do Duck fans only travel to Playoff Six games now? Pretty pathetic showing for a bowl in San Diego.
Man I have criticized angry a ton. In his defense though he has rated the entire recruiting class every year and has been pretty damn good. That’s entirely different than picking and choosing certain players ratings that you don’t agree with.
NC coach kicks the fg to go up 6 and force Oregon to score a TD. I think that’s the right move, and I think smith would have gone for it on 4th. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
4 and 12 is a long way to go.
Man, that backfired
When I said “I think” I meant it as in I’m not sure, but think it was the right move. Given it’s Oregon I think it’s close probabilities there. I’d love to see someone run the math on that situation.
I do not think smith would have gone for it on 4th and 12 up 3….
He might have if he thought he’d get gashed by uck passing game and lose…
He looked short.
Yeah wish they had the other sideline angle. Surprised they don’t for a bowl game
Yeah looked like that first knee went down and they were focused on the butt and other knee. Lame. Cota on draft boards? He looks like he’d make a good pro.
Was wondering that myself, has good size and hands from what I’ve seen. Haven’t seen enough of him to judge his speed. Not huge numbers for his career, including this year.
World cup has the technology to dissect every single offsides call via digital replay within seconds, yet NCAAF has zero good camera angles at the goal line on the deciding play.
I know WorldCup is much bigger, but how does NCAAF consistently have such poor camera angles at the goal line?
How do we not have a ball with a laser in the tip and sensor along the entire goal line? It’s almost 2023!
The touchdown to get them to 21 was suspect as well. The ball hit the ground but guess he had control. They didn’t take much time to look at it.
Why not have a hockey puck that glows on tv and has a shot trail too so viewers can see follow the puck?
I heard talk of XFL or one of the lesser leagues trying something like that to see how it works. Both for First Downs and TD.
They still score if he’s short with a qb sneak/push the next play. But it would be nice to have more angles; maybe an overhead.
That was 4th down wasn’t it?
Yeah 4th&2 at the 6.
It was 4th down. Turnover on downs
It wasn’t fourth and goal. They had 2 timeouts and 19 seconds left. 1st and goal at the half yard line.
The NFL depends on whatever network is covering the game to come up with angles.
The lack of uniformity, let alone the lack of angles in a game of inches… worth billions of dollars, is amazing.
I’m not sure it would have mattered, the Quacks had the first down anyway with plenty of time and timeouts. Poor clock management by Mack, pissed away two timeouts earlier in the half and used his final timeout to set the defense, not to save clock.
I’ll now just have to read the Bo Nix leading the Quacks to the playoffs next year narrative. A loss would have suppressed that nonsense for a little while.
He still looked like running was bothering him today. Wonder if he has some lingering damage from that hit the UW safety put in his leg?
They replace most of their OLine next year. He wont have the same protection he got this season
Agree, NC throwing 2 incompletions on their last drive late didn’t help with the clock management.
Goddamn it I hate the Ducks
I thought Lane Kiffen was a genius. His team seems out of control and is getting smacked around by Texas Tech and Tyler Shough.
Watching kiffen get disassembled is hysterical. Fuck that guy.
How many of his players have been ejected for targeting so far? 35-13 TTU with about 9 minutes left.
Funny part is the ejections roll over toward the next game. So, if a player was ejected in the 2nd half this game then they have to miss the 1st Half of their next game which would be their season opener.
Bowl season doesn’t agree with SEC too much so far. 1-3 if Ole Miss loses, and they likely lose Tenn, Miss St, Alabama games.
No Hooker for Tenn, no coach for Miss St, no Young possibly for Bama.
LSU should win, SC may beat ND with some focus, and Georgia probably repeats as national champ although I’d love to see a matchup with TCU.
As for the PAC12:
2-1 so far, WSU lost, Beavs and Ducks have wins.
UCLA should win if DTR plays.
USC likely loses as a favorite because they are spoiled
UW beats Texas
Utah will beat Penn St
5-2 as a conference in bowl season would be an improvement, 6 teams finish top 25
Beavs should be close to top 10 by the end of it all.
Beavs are 16 & 17 in the 2 polls that will be taken at the end of the season (there is no CFP poll). Probably looking at somewhere between 13-15.
How is that possible? Just ask anyone. The SEC is the great conference ever to play the game LMAO
They’re so good all their players are opting out for the NFL Draft so these aren’t the REAL SEC teams.
um… define team
Fox Sports predicts that Shedeur Sanders will win the Heisman Trophy next season.
Has a team that goes 4-8 ever had a Heisman winner?
So it IS a popularity contest. I knew it!
Ummm, is Fox in line to telecast CU games next year? Networks like to generate hype for their own product.
Almost no
The Heisman graphic Fox put up is pathetic. It’s become a QB award. It’s lost its allure for me and is no longer the coveted award. Give me the Paul Hornung, Lou Groza, Bednarik, etc over the QB with the best stats.
Lol, Lou Groza? Top notch kicker is more valuable than top QB?
Since 2022, the award has gone to 17 QB’s and the other 5 were 4 RB and 1 WR. Ya, it’s basically the Davey O’Brien award and Maxwell award rolled into 1 at this point. Why don’t defensive players or TE’s get a chance a the award?
If the Beavs had Serna on the team, they would have beaten USC and UW without a doubt.
i meant 2000 not 2022.
You can’t do that IF game over a kicker. Serna lost us the LSU game by the way. And IF we had Cam Newton from Auburn we wouldn’t have needed a kicker against UW or USC. I get your point that the Heisman always goes to QB’s but to say that the Groza is more valuable is crazy.
your the one who said it was more valuable…I just said it’s lost it’s allure, meaning lost its attractiveness. The value is still there because it’s the most coveted trophy of them all because of the rich history, but the history is changing to a QB trophy. The last defensive player to win the Heisman was 1997: Charles Woodson, Michigan, CB/PR and before him it was 1961: Ernie Davis, Syracuse, HB/LB/FB (Original Jack Hammer?) Before him was 1949: Leon Hart, Notre Dame, End. So I guess historically, it goes to HB, WR, QB.
Originally, “it was awarded by New York City’s Downtown Athletic Club beginning in 1935 to honor the top college football player east of the Mississippi River.” https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/heisman-trophy-history-every-winner-1935
Lol, bro, you literally said it’s no longer the coveted award. Then a comment later you said it’s still the most coveted.
so… you didn’t watch the LSU game
It looked a lot like the 2008 Utah game against Utah.
No.
Banker’s crap D calls lost that game.
Are you talking about the guy that missed 3 extra points in one game?
I’m talking about the guy who redeemed himself from that and was automatic AFTER that game and went on to win the Lou Groza award. 1 game doesn’t define a career.
Sorry, but that one game did define his career.
Well that’s because QBs affect the game more than any other player. They touch the ball on every offensive play and now teams are becoming pass happy. That’s why you’re seeing this trend.
That’s so dumb. Sanders may very well succeed at Colorado but it’s not gonna be next year. Takes more than recruiting a bunch of skill players.
I will say you can see his impact already. Those annoying recruiting graphics kids put up on Twitter have a lot of Colorado showing up. We’ll see how many actually pick them over the big programs.
Two games with ramifications for Beavs final poll position today. We need Oklahoma and Texas to win.
Sorry about that!
Not sure if you saw this, AB, but Grant Starck posted a 2-minute clip from his time at Nevada on Twitter when he first entered the portal: https://twitter.com/grantstarck/status/1598783190461984769?s=46&t=HovQsoexrvO-LL2IIlrAcA
Looks good to me.
At the 0:34 mark, he blocks a guy from the 47 all the way down to the 17 yard line. lol reminded me of “The Blindside” movie about Michael Oher where he pushed the opponent all the way out of the back of the end zone and got a penalty for excessive blocking. Coach asked him, “Where were you taking him?” Oher responds, “Back to the bus coach!”
I noticed in one article about his transfer to OSU, DJU pointed out the commitment of a Nevada lineman as another example of the Beavers ongoing improvement.
I guess IMG academy and their senior class would rank 13th in the nation in recruiting rankings. They have 2 5 stars 11 4 stars and 13 3 stars. Apparently they have guys that don’t start and are rated. Pretty crazy. Hopefully Smith can pluck some of those guys and develop a pipeline.
Miki Fifita is from there. Maybe Lopez, too? Highly ranked OL guys that haven’t gained Coach M’s favor yet for whatever reason.
Sorry it’s 7 4 stars and 11 3 stars.
2 bowl game wins for BD’s rodents this year. He must be BIRGing today!
*BG
I was at the game. Horrible venue for football, but cool to be there. They might as well have played on an ice rink for how bad the footing was. Starting QB for next season and by far the best defensive player coming back both broke ankles. Ugh…
That being said, I am basking in my double rodent victory Karma! BIRGing baby!
Man, those injuries are brutal. But when I first read it I thought you said “…broke both ankles”. Yikes.
Rodent power!
They WILL overrun the earth….
Undoubtedly
The Cheezit bowl is pretty entertaining, but holy shit, Brent Venables is going to have an aneurysm. That dude yells at everybody…all the time. I know he’s a pretty successful coach, but I feel like his players perform just so they don’t get yelled at.
It might be the main reason he was a dc for 20 years. He knows his flaws and decided to cash out for a big payday at Oklahoma for as long as they keep him. Likely 2-3 more years if he can’t win 11 games.
Yeah, I’m sure he’s under a ton of pressure to get OU back to the Stoops days. I doubt he’ll get there.
First losing record in 20 some seasons. Yikes! Venables better improve quickly.
I had a manager like that one time where his method was yell at every mistake and stay quiet with no real praises when I do something right. needless to say, it was effective to get me to be my best, but I was also stressed about making a mistake.
Wow, Huskies are not prepared for their bowl game. They’re also getting the “no vaseline” treatment from the refs.
They’re starting to figure it out
UW isn’t getting a fair shake from refs in Alamo Bowl. Just saw a sequence of questionable non calls all in favor of Texas, could’ve easily been 3 different 15 yd penalties.
It will be interesting to see what uW is made of this game. Texas is a challenging matchup for them.
Those pregame beers I shared with the refs was a great idea! Fuckin eyes of Texas baaaaaaayyyyyybeeeeee!
Which conf are these zebras from?
ACC
tnx
Mastermind Sark and his five star qb with three points. Why would Manning want to go there… well I can figure out a few reasons. Maybe Ewers will get beat out next year.
Noted that their stud starting rb isn’t playing.
OSU’s backfield will be five deep next season if no one transfers, each dude bringing something different to the table. I’m hoping Trey Lowe sticks around because he was the go-to guy on 3rd down in 2021.
Lowe has more reason to return than go.
Lowe, Austin, Oladapo all have to consider a potentially 9-11win season with greater exposure, and more scout attention.
The Beavers preseason ranking, stadium expansion, DJU, all going to bring more eyes to OSU.
A special bowl game is very possible.
He plays a scatback role and is great in the receiving game. If he stays healthy and has a good year he could be a 6th or 7th round pick.
Worthy is not worthy. Harrison’s cousin?
He wears oven mitts.
wait… everyone doesn’t wear oven mitts?
Silly rabbit…
Talked to a guy who is familiar with St.John Bosco, nothing good to say about “Big Dave”.
He speculates that the divorce of his parents really impacted DJU.
On field celebrations notwithstanding, says DJU is actually a quiet kid. Even seems to wonder if he can become a team leader
FWIW
Wasn’t there speculation DJ was keeping his transfer recruitment quiet from his dad? I think that says a lot. I also read big Dave stopped going to Clemson games because he wanted to distance himself from the criticizing fans. I wonder then if it was more about the fracture of his relationship with DJ.
Hate to say it, but I’m already tired of Big Dave. Canzano interviewed him yesterday on the radio and then wrote a story about his interview with him. Sorry, just not interesting enough for all of the air time and exposure he is given. Let the kids be themselves and stay out of their spotlight.
https://media.tenor.com/chZ6CSLIZIsAAAAC/come-on-denver-bat-dad.gif
Bingo
The idea that he goes by “Big Dave” says a lot.
Agree, let it be about the kids.
You’d prefer ‘Tiny’?
I think UW @ OSU next year us going to be a great, compelling contest. Looking forward to attending.
Season tickets have become a more compelling purchase since JS.
Thoroughly enjoyable season this year, expect more of the same next year.
Watched some of thae U of W – Tejas game last night. What really jumped out at me was the number of players that the Dawgs had that trasnferred in from ‘somewhere else’; why even recruit anymore? Just find at least enough mercenaries to come in and play offense-defense for you and you are set. If you are a high schooler getting/accepting an offer, don’t expect that this will be the only school you will ever be playing for; it may be just the first of 2-3 schools. Sure, the transfer portal is exciting to watch, but it is messing with the dynamics of the traditional recruiting process.
That may be in part because they had a new head coach, so Huskies probably transferred out since the end of last season, and he’s trying to build a winner quickly so takes a lot of transfers in.
Will he rely heavily on the transfer portal, or was it a jump start and he’ll start building depth through recruiting.
Coaches have always been mercenaries, able to leave whenever they wanted for greener grass, now that players are afforded the same opportunity, it will be interesting to see the different adaptation methods. I suspect Smith for example will continue to recruit, recruit his own players to reduce their leaving, and use the transfer portal as a complimentary tool to team building.
A refreshing note from a really good qb. I so hoped the ucks would lose.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/unc-quarterback-drake-maye-shuts-down-transfer-nil-talk-those-rumors-werent-really-reality/ar-AA15CaRG
Sark keeps getting jobs, sark keeps losing. Sark gonna start drinking again.
I stopped?
That Husky QB is a real dick!
He and Kiffin keep hanging in, like _______.
[Fill in the blank]
Another good win for PAC12.
It’s weird that the Pac is having to punch down in so many bowl games. Seems like they always have more Ws and are higher ranked than their opponent they’re matched up with.
Like OSU playing a 6-6 Florida. Were they really the best available SEC team in the bowl pecking order?
Oregon played an unranked UNC and UW played an 8-4 Texas squad.
And poor WSU played “up” to one of the best QBs and arguably hottest teams on the West coast in Fresno. Hasn’t FSU won like 9 straight games? They would be a hard fought game for any PAC team at this point.
I think it has been a slow process of losing some of the bowl alliances with other conferences. This year the conference had 6 teams that were equally talented and in the race to win the conference, and it is showing in the bowl results. It hasn’t been a trend in the PAC12 for the last decade though.
Bowl matchups are generally set by ESPN for tv eyeballs anyway. If PAC12 keeps winning and becomes a better product, ESPN powers that be will find better matchups eventually, in spite of bowl tie-ins for conferences.
Imagine how much better team and individual stat lines would be for each team in the conference if each had 4 non conference patsies instead of 3. The 9 game conference schedule is a long term issue that should. be abandoned now that they have abandoned the divisions. Make the field level with SEC by adjusting the schedule and more teams will qualify each year for bowl games as well, and the end of year records will look better for the conference overall.
3 teams in the middle finishing at 8-5, 9-4, 8-5 always looks better than 7-6, 8-5, 7-6 based on less conference matchups and less conference losses. I hope the conference is considering this as they delay the 2023 schedule release. Or at least going into 2024, something should be in place to allow maximum opportunity to get 2 teams into the playoffs and it starts with fewer internal losses for the conference which leads to better overall records.
After the PAC12’s showing in bowl games the past couple years, networks threw them a bone
Gotta think USC will have no problem with Tulane. UCLA seems like the biggest risk for a bowl loss remaining. Haven’t heard if DTR is even playing?
Also, I’m so glad OSU didn’t land the Sun Bowl. Couldn’t imagine very many people choosing to travel to El Paso for New Years. What a terrible draw.
I agree UCLA struggles but I wouldn’t be surprised to see USC lose to Tulane.
They’ve got to reorder the bowl selection and dates and redo the affiliations. Or start to rotate them so matchups become better.
LA Bowl and Vegas Bowl should be after Rose Bowl because they have the best stadiums and easiest locations to get to for all the PAC12 schools. Move the dates to after Christmas.
Alamo and Holiday Bowl next. Sun Bowl last.
Sun Bowl should get the Mountain West champs. LA bowl can get an ACC opponent instead.
Last year the Vegas bowl was played on December 30. It was a failed experiment so it was moved back to before Christmas.
I personally liked the pre-Christmas Vegas Bowl date. A little early compared to most bowl matchups, but it was nice to get the trip in and over with before the holidays hit and travel gets more dicey
Yeah for Vegas, maybe it makes more sense before xmas. NYE is a big event in Vegas and hotels would be more expensive.
DTR is playing
After last night’s results, not looking good for the Beavs to move up in the polls. Can really only pass a couple of teams now.
Is December 4 the last poll? In that Coaches’ Poll, OSU #16 (UO#14), in AP OSU #17 (UO #15).
Does UO’s 1 point win over an unranked 8-4(?) team help them more than OSU’s beat down of an unranked, 6-6 FLA team?
Looks like OSU will wind up somewhere around 15-18 by the end of the playoffs?
I’m thinking in 2023 preseason, OSU will be around 15-20 with DJU & Chiles additions to the QB room, keeping OLine starters, keeping Martinez, RB depth, quality of defense.
you’d think the head to head matchup of Oregon/Oregon State would be the deciding factor, considering records are equal and strength of schedule isn’t far apart.
Yeah, I’d think…but there’s the narrative of UO having been ranked so (too) high since pre-season and even after the 49-3 loss to Georgia.
I think UO may have one more “quality win?” Did they beat UCLA and Utah?
If Oklahoma coach Venables was on the verge of a heart attack last night, Pitt coach Narduzzi is appolroaching a stroke in the 1st quarter. Based on lip reading he cusses worse than a sailor…
Here’s a 25 min documentary on DJU. Its really well done and basically everyone raves about his maturity, attitude, work ethic, and just being a good person. He definitely doesn’t seem like a culture liability and it’s more the opposite. I think angry read a bit too much into some highlights. The only negative I can see is that he’s probably not going to be a vocal leader and do so more by example. Hopefully someone else on offense can fill that role like Gray or Levengoos as most the offense is young.
https://youtu.be/x91HjhyRKC4
Something interesting i’ve noticed recently. Nick Rolovich has started following almost every coach on Oregon State’s staff. He follows quite a few other people too, but just odd that there are so many OSU coaches as of late. Wonder if Smith is considering bringing him in for some type of analyst role?
I bet he’d make an amazing QB coach actually. Wonder if this could be to help get DJ up to speed for the upcoming season while allowing Lindgren to focus on OC duties?
He really screwed the pooch when he was at WSU as far as handling the QBs. He would put the other QB in at the stupidest times. I don’t know how his record is as far as developing them tho.
Does he have to be vaccinated? Lol
Run game situational formulas out of the pistol.
Imagine Colletto running out of the pistol on short yardage plays.
I’m trying not to get to excited about next year because the last time I allowed myself to be this excited heading into off season was 2001 and that didn’t worked out well. I’d argue that the biggest piece missing from the 2000 team that was overlooked in the preseason was the DEs, grant and Jackson,
I know not everyone has announced, but what piece are we overlooking that could be next years achilles heel? Big assumption DJU fills the QB deficiency
On offense seems the biggest concerns would be WRs and QB. On defense, a lot depends on who returns but I’d say DL is always a concern along with DBs. That said, I’m not overly concerned about any position group. In 2001, I was not one of those that was super optimistic because I knew how important those players were that we lost following the Fiesta Bowl. We had some good skill players returning but the game is won in the trenches and we lost too much. That’s not the case next year IMO
I would say my major worry would be if our secondary takes a step back because of the players we have to replace, and our pass rush doesn’t improve, so our D gets exposed way more.
I will worry less if Austin and Oladipo come back
To add: There is also now a complete season of Bray defense to analyze.
To add, there is also now a full season of Bray defense to analyze.
Let’s assume the worst since none of the guys eligible to return have made announcements.
Areas of concern at the moment is all on defense.
DBs – Losing top 4 DBs, Grant, Oladapo, Wright and Austin.
ILBs – Losing Speights and Fisher
DL – Losing Hodgins, Sandberg, Rawls, Anderson
Each spot does have young guys who can fill the void, but losing that many guys means more guys have to step up. Might be asking too much.
Rawls said he’s coming back
I like Rawls.
I don’t worry about the defense that much, particularly if Julian can come healthy. It was disappointing he couldn’t come back this season, and I wonder if he’ll be able to return. Julian and Cooper seem like heady players that diagnose and be in the right place at the right time to make plays. Throw in Skyler Thomas (6′ 2″) and Noble Thomas (5′ 11″) at CB…
Think back to the start of this season, Bray’s first full time DC. By the USC game, he and Blue had the secondary playing wonderfully. I think during the non-conference schedule they’ll sort it out and have them ready again. It would be great to have Oladapo and Austin in that mix though.
Angry susgests incoming JUCO DE Nikko Taylor as a Safety. He’s listed as 6’6″ and 245 lbs., that would be pretty cool to see him get time at safety and taking on RBs and TEs and blitzing, but I expect they’ll keep him at DE. USC had a freak of a 6’6″ athlete at LB, and with his wingspan he could influence plays.
In addition to those DLs from this season that return, I think we can expect to see Omarion Fa’amoe and Takari Hickle. Kelze Howard may be contributing by the back half or third of the season if not right away…he could play the last four and retain a redshirt. Lolohea will probably only get better with experience…LBs like Mascarenas-Arnold and Malaki-Donaldson may start showing up more. I suspect there’ll be better QB pressure to help out the secondary as Bray will be creative and will have had more control over player development.
A related question might be who is going to provide the leadership? I think Julian would. Maybe Cooper?
DJU will provide enough improved QB play to make a positive difference and help out the defense.
Don’t forget Jaden Robinson
Movining Taylor to safety would be asinine IMO. Smith wants him to affect the passer not be an oversized slow safety.
Taylor looks like a strong safety. Julian might have to take on the free safety role, unless Arnold has a huge offseason. That would be nice because Julian is better at corner.
Don’t forget we lost Erickson too. He didn’t coach the team in 2001
Erickson didn’t leave for SF until after 2002
I’m not worried about the DL we are losing. As a group they played their role better than any group we’ve had recently but they weren’t difference maker individually and can be replaced now that recruiting and strength programs are in place.
The duo I was thinking about when I asked the question was Speights and Fischer. I haven’t seen has much chatter about replacing them but I think Fischer was a huge upgrade over Roberts. I know Roberts was a high end recruit but I was never impressed with him and thought speights and Fischer was a much effective duo.
I imagine it would go Mascarenas, Gordon, Miller, Chisom, or something like that. Chisom probably jumps Miller and maybe Gordon but Mascarenas has looked great when he’s played.
Chad and Housh left.
The O had all the same dynamics… minus two college HoFers.
Yeah, lots of hype, Sports Illustrated pre-season #1 and ended up 5-6. Cesca missing a couple of key FG attempts didn’t help and kept them from bowl eligibility also. Chad and TJ were gone also, and DE was not able to really replace that talent either.
It’s fine to be excited about next season; it looks promising.
A potential achilles heel to that exciting season coming to fruition? Luck of da Beavs injury bug :3
In the team’s defense, its depth is better than in the past.
Not a weakness, but I’d like to see play improve in the middle of the defensive line. This with incoming potential from DE and LB? Yes!
Anyone else watching the Sun Bowl? I feel like the refs and the announcers are not. The calls and non-calls are absolutely absurd.
Ya no one can play D either
Yeah, if UCLA could tackle they would’ve won. Oh well. Hopefully they can’t tackle next year either.
Haven’t watched it since the Beavers win over Pittsburgh. I think at that game the Sun Bowl had a little known pop singer “Rihanna” play the halftime show, and the network didn’t even show her, which I thought was a mistake. I recall one announcer referring to her as “Ree-Hanna.” She would have been the most watchable part of that game…
Hey!
Our punter won that game!
Chipster’s knowledge of the human body wasn’t enough to defeat a mid-tier ACC team’s backups.
Did he walk off without shaking hands with Pitt’s coach?
No, they eventually found each other.
OLB/DE Jake Parrella has transferred out from OSU.
Anybody know if he was on scholarship?
Dont think he was, but also not sure
https://twitter.com/JakeParrella/status/1608943872494764032?t=ZizTq3SWDnmhyNU9usIezQ&s=19
Walk on
Darn, was hoping it would free up another scholarship spot
Was it just me or was the announcer of the S. Carolina-ND a huge Carolina fan or just a SEC honk?
They were very quick to talk about all the missing piece from SC. Appreciated Galloway and Palmer post game talking about all the piece ND was missing. Be prepared to hear about all Tennessee missing pieces
Exactly. It’s all about SEC talent and depth of programs until they get exposed. Every team has guys missing either opting out or injury at this point. Some teams have an actual backup qb, depth at wr, experienced backups for Oline/Dline and missing a starters doesn’t mean they no longer can play defense or
complete a drive.
Tennessee will get their lunch handed to them by Clemson and the same excuses will be used.
Just acknowledge the missing guys but praise the teams with players who stay to the end and to whom the bowl game has meaning.
SEC dominance narrative is teetering right now, and in context of non conference losses early in the year, they have all chips in the middle for a Georgia repeat.
KSt may surprise Alabama too.
They’re actually going to give them lunch?
I think you missed this one a bit….
Jokes, my man…
Yep. Hope the SEC drop more games though Georgia is the team to beat. They win it all I think but Im hoping TCU blows it all up.
Pat McWhatshisname found joy talking about how the SEC was just so fast and too much for a redshirt frosh QB from the Pac 12 to handle… despite them looking really really really slow.
Oh well.
It’s still early but it does not appear that the new flavor of the month QB at Clemson is lighting the world on fire tonight in their bowl game.
Making a buncha Freshman misatakes.
Will timea gardiner be playing soon?
Wow Clemson has 3 missed fgs and just totally look totally out of sorts ending the half.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35349790/nc-state-radio-voice-gary-hahn-suspended-illegal-aliens-reference
Lol what a Jack A
What he said is accurate.
Facts aren’t as important as they used to be.
Not even close.
First, only in one or two circumstances can any object be illegal. No people can be so.
Big dum dum loser wrongness.
Second, the stadium is way up on the hill, away from the border.
Big dum dum loser wrongness.
Illegal aliens are illegal aliens.
Your undocumented immigrant bullshit is typical liberal mush speak.
Read the fucking laws. The criminal offense is being an illegal alien. Nowhere does it refer to undocumented this that or other made up shit .
That’s a weird thing to say as a sportscaster, but I’m not sure why it’s grounds for suspension.
Except maybe it is more relevant to the situation as they have spent some time around El Paso for the week and the challenges of such an issue is hard to deny?
Well the guy who said this was calling the bowl game in Charlotte, not El Paso.
They actually have hundreds of illegals camped out inside the airport in El Paso. Welcome to the Sun bowl.
Any idea how many are intelligence agents for other countries? The Soviets were able to sneak in a quarter million in the 80s
all of them, obviously.
duh to the duh
It’s a fair question. The US does it, or tries to.
Sadly, we don’t have many good Farsi or Tajik speakers.
oh… you were serious
You’re not?
He’s detached from reality. So nothing is serious, yet everything is serious. It’s a mental disorder.
That’s unfortunate
Call the game asshole. As a lib, does he own me now?
Slavery is illegal.
Kinda sounds like he does.
If stating a categorical fact is “owning you” might be time to reassess your belief system.
in English, please
Wow, both Clemson and Tennessee playing backup QB’s in the Orange Bowl. That game has really fallen on hard times.
After watching Clemsons offense, DJU is much better off being a Beav. They ask the qb to throw 45 times and run 15-20 times a game. It’s like they don’t mind a beat up qb because their oline is horrendous too.
I bet he will be shockingly good in a real pro style offense with less of the running and more ores so thinking.
Their o-line is crap.
I mean… each of them may be stellar athletes, but they as a unit suck raw eggs.
Clemson’s “backup” QB is their starting QB by choice.
Maybe Clemson shouldn’t have been so quick to toss DJ aside.
No kidding
I was just curious to see the guy who got DJ demoted, he’s good, but I’m not blown away. Has a weird penchant for running backward. I only like Clemson when they beat Alabama anyway.
Yeah, he doesn’t get the whole step up in the pocket thing. He’s constantly retreating. Just like the French army in World War II.
Interestedin buying a French rifle? Never been fired, only dropped once.
Technically, the French army did step up in the pocket… since the pocket moved into France more quickly than they expected.
Were the French tackled for a loss or was it a sack?
They were tickled for a loss, which spawned the “French Tickler.”
Butter, espresso, and smokes after….
“The Maginot Line” — Names Offensive Line Units Prefer Not to be Called By
One assessment of Clemson’s offensive performance:
“Offense: C
The good news is that Clemson ran an Orange Bowl-record 101 offensive plays. The bad news is the most of them didn’t produce the desired result.
Clemson quarterback Cade Klubnik looked like the freshman he is at times and didn’t get much help from his offensive line, which whiffed on several blocks that resulted in four sacks by the Tennessee defense and seven tackles for loss.
Klubnik wound up 30-of-54 for 320 yards and two interceptions. He also had a 4-yard touchdown run, but was under duress much of the night, including on his two interceptions in the waning minutes. The primary bright spot for the Tigers was wide receiver Joseph Ngata, who finally surfaced with a career-high eight receptions for 84 yards.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/clemson/2022/12/31/clemson-football-grades-tennessee-orange-bowl-dabo-swinney/69757710007/
“….senior defensive end K.J. Henry offered reflection and perspective.
“We had 11 great days and three bad ones,” Henry said. “But I wouldn’t trade anything for what I was a part of this year. It’s all about the relationships. I’ve been part of a lot of great teams here and this will go down as one of them.”
Will be watching to see if any Clemson WRs hit the portal after this game. Good opportunity for some portal fishing.
Beaux Collins (injured and didnt play tonight) is one of the guys I could see being interested in a change of scenery. West coast guy who played HS ball with DJU at Bosco.
Joe Ngata is another possibility. Also a west coast guy. Only 1 year of eligibility remaining though. Just graduated from Clemson this month.
Both players had OSU offers out of HS
Ngata is built like a defensive end.
As an aside, my wife and I ran into the St. John Bosco team at a restaurant in SE Portland this fall when they were in town to play Central Catholic. We were absolutely convinced they were a college football team cuz of how huge they all were, until my wife asked one of their staff where they were from and I was able to piece things together.
And they beat CC 49-0. A family friend’s son is a sophomore QB at Catholic and he said the game was a joke. First time in program history that Catholic had a running clock used against them in a second half.
Any heights? Just because that’s what our WR room needs.
Both 6’3″ and 210-215lbs
Shaping up to be a long year for basketball teams. Glad baseball will be back in 6-7 weeks.
I’m curious to see how the men do tomorrow vs Hole. The two new additions have made a huge difference.
Geez, WBB committed 24 turnovers tonight. Seems like Rueck has lost the touch a little. He’s getting the highly-rated recruits but can’t get them to jell like he used to.
https://www.on3.com/college/texas-longhorns/news/video-surfaces-steve-sarkisian-losing-mind-tv-rep-prior-alamo-bowl-texas-washington/
That’s not a coke-head reaction.
“I think we can still make improvements there, of just making sure that we’re really poised and composed in critical moments of the game,” Sarkisian explained.
But not pre game apparently.
There ought to be a ranking for programs with the worst ratio of investment to performance. UT has so much money in football but have such a bad decision record and consequent on-field performance its pathetic they annually receive as much attention as they do.
Tennessee is right there with them. They’re better this year but historically awful in recruiting/$$ vs results on the field.
Relax and have a drink coach
Despite having advantages the average college football coach would kill for, Sark has produced an underwhelming 59-47 record. I don’t get what these AD’s are seeing. It’s not like he’s a good guy either!
What gets me is the delayed reaction. That’s weird.
Because he’s not a genuine guy nor is he a true leader. He is processing what would be a Saban reaction and calculates he needs to blow up on a tv guy for the team to get hyped up even more. Sark is a sad case in the Peter Principle. Promoted beyond his capabilities and needs to fake it to stay there.
Tennessee’s QB play last night was a preview of what DJU could be next year. Standing in the pocket and throwing rockets. Few if any designed runs. Quick enough to extend plays. 19-28 251 yards and 3 TDs. 11 runs for 5 yards.
ohiobeav is right, the Clemson offense asks for a lot of running by the QB. DJU had 142 carries this year. If he was in the PAC12 this year, he would have had the 8th most carries. DJU was the second leading rusher on his team. In comparison, Martinez had 161 carries and Fenwick had 114.
I’d think under Smith it would only be 4-5 carries a game (and mostly short yardage). 5 carries per game would be 65 rushes over 13 games. That total feels right for a QB.
I would say the opportunity for DJU to thrive is large.
Totally agree. I think with the tools around him and not having to do everything will allow him to show off his arm talent. I can still see him getting quite a bit of rush yards but more from scrambles when things break down than designed runs.
DJU is the same size as Jack Colletto. Maybe JS will save most of his carries for Colletto-type situations (but with a greater threat of the pass).
He’s bigger than Colletto unless he’s lost weight. Definitely taller. He tends to make guys miss more than tries to bowl guys over but that could be different in short yardage situations.
DJU is listed at 6’4″ 236 lbs and Colletto at 6’3″ 239 lbs. He’s big, but also don’t know if JS wants to risk putting his starting QB (assuming he starts) into those situations.
Who the hell is going to be big enough to push him from behind on the “new style” QB sneak?
Sio
Lol Iowa up on Kentucky 14-0 and the announcers are over explaining Kentucky qb Levis is opting for the draft, 2nd string has no experience but high hopes for Leary for next year.
Another SEC fraud program with a lot less depth than the myth says.
Hope Iowa continues to set season high scoring ice for themselves lol.
Bama certainly doesn’t look like a fraud
Big reality check for KS and their degenerate gambler coach.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
Didn’t you say Tennessee would get their asses kicked?
Weird to see WBB in last place in the standings and Utah first. Civil War men’s hoops tonight, just hoping they perform respectably. This is not an elite Quack team by any means.
DJU: “This is an offense that can prepare me for the NFL. It’s not about stats, that’s not what’s important, it’s development, and I know that’s what I can get from this coaching staff”.
This comment. This high profile athlete. If OSU does a complete turn around with him and he’s a name mentioned next year as a Heisman contender, I beleive that will be eye popping with a lot of young’s QBs and help our recruiting long term.
I also believe we have DJ for 2 years. Next years NFL draft will be so stacked at QB, he’s only a 1 and done if he has a year like Nix or Penix did this past year. I’d gladly take that.
Any projections on when he will arrive? Still worried he’ll change his mind…
He’s supposed to show up when classes start in January with the early enrollees.
January 9th is what he said in his interview. I think we’re way past that and this won’t be a Devon Williams 2.0. Both he and his dad had in depth interviews on his commitment.
Oladapo is back!
Like getting a 5* safety in the portal. Great news
Saw that. Unfinished business! Love it. Liked our secondary even if he hadn’t but def makes it a strength of the defense for sure. Julian healthy. Cooper Jr. Thomas. Robinson seems like a good option at corner. Good stuff!
https://twitter.com/Kitan_Oladapo/status/1609302786856071169?t=EMW-EoBS8hoMWHQUkA5-1A&s=19
Crossing fingers Austin will return as well.
Oldapo is a beast, seems like he’s involved in almost every play. I hope he has a great final season and starts getting the national recognition he deserves.
Fuck yeah, this defense just got a lot better
WoooOOOOOhoooo!
ESPN Computer’s Top 25 Heading Into The Playoff Tonight
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/espn-computer-s-top-25-heading-into-the-playoff-tonight/ar-AA15QCw2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ac6d82578c9d4d978931f76cd8e64a53
These rankings make absolutely zero sense. Beavs beat 4 teams with at least 10 wins. Lose to Utah, UW and USC. Oregon somehow ranked ahead of UW and Beavs. UW ranked behind Oregon and Beavs which they beat plus beat ranked Texas team in Texas to win 11 games but are ranked behind Beavs and Ducks. USC is only ranked 15th. ND which lost Stanford and Marshal and barely beat Navy and Cal is ranked 16th ahead of Beavs and UW.
It’s all based on stats
Sorry but I just can’t help myself…
ND losses vs USC by 11. Beavs lost by 3.
ND loses to Stanford by 2, Beavs beat Stanford by 1.
ND beats Cal by 7. Beavs beat Cal by 28.
Beavs losses: UW (11 wins), Oregon (10 wins), USC (11 wins)
ND losses: USC, Marshall (9-4 weak schedule), Stanford (3-9).
ND ranked ahead of Beavs… wtf!
I’d say the Beavs should be ranked in top 15 based on logic so 17 isn’t totally unreasonable. They’re not a top 10 team. But…
Alabama 2!
Texas 7!
TCU only 10! Wft really… they might win it all.
UW only at 21! Aren’t they 11-2 and just beat No 7 Texas.
ND at 16… Beavs would destroy them.
Are these ranking a joke. This can’t be accurate. I’m guessing it was a mistake and they posted the wrong rankings.
Beavs beat hole
Unfortunately, not likely. Even mediocre Quack teams get the calls. 11 fouls on the Beavs and 4 on Oregon? Beavs down 11 with 2 minutes left in the first half.
I think he was referring to the post above his where the poster said that OSU lost to Oregon in football this season
Michigan v Frogs is entertaining
Fun game. I like how they keep finding reasons to show JJ McArthy’s family over and over. A couple reasons…
Didn’t see them much late in the game
“them” referring to whom or what?!?
Two good reasons…that’s all…though they’re pretty big reasons.
Whadda ya bet has a short career as a “Michigan Influencer” and makes some $?
TCU qb better than SC’s Williams?
Michigan defense is impressive….
I hope you realize it is sarcasm.
BG smiles?
Yes, he is.
Jesus Christ, I thought one or both of these teams played defense?
So glad Michigan lost…
I kind of like Sonny Dykes demeanor, seems like he’s enjoying the ride. Always nice to see Harbaugh lose also.
Hear, hear…!
You can’t defend 4.3 speed
Oregon State loses a close one at Oregon. Horrid scheduling for that game. Surprised the Beavs were able to make it a game without their bigs. Huge mismatch in the front court against Oregon.
Down 13 at the half, actually took a small lead, but could not sustain down the stretch as usual so far with this team. I will say the talent seems to be at a higher level this year, with some potential if Tinks can keep the team together. Eight freshmen.
9
Ducks are fairly average, so it was a winnable game, but coaching lost yet another one. Every single offensive possession the last 6-7 minutes just became hoping a player scores 1 on 1 while Oregon was getting rim runs, drop offs to big men for 2 and open threes. The defensive strategy late was about as bad as it gets. When they were fronting the post with zero help behind it, it was definitely a classic Wayne second half finish
Got absolutely killed on the boards. Oregon had 17 offensive rebounds. Outscored OSU 17-1 in 2nd chance points.
PAc12 crew is front and center in Peach Bow. Spotting the ball is scrutinized throughout the game by both teams.
How fucking stupid does Cal look for firing Sonny Dykes?
Not that I think he was a lifer there.
Cal is a shit hole. Still surprised Wilcox didn’t take the hole job.
Yeah, he would have rotted there. Wilcox should get out ASAP
Dykes had a Rileyesque record before this year. He’s going to get a huge, long contract like Mel Tucker’s and TCU will end up regretting it in a few years.
Dykes turned SMU around
He quickly improved La Tech also.
Don’t forget, these are Garry Patterson’s players. Dykes isn’t a bad coach – but it was really weird when he went to Cal – didn’t seem like a fit at all – even with the very limited success he did have. One bowl. Not surprised he’s doing well – but I do think he needs the right environment – and Defensive Coordinator to succeed.
Happy New Year, bums. Hoping 2023 is the year of the Beaver. I can’t remember a time I was already excited about football this far out from the season. Go Beavs!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Duck staying classy
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/colts-qb-nick-foles-leaves-field-on-cart-after-frightening-injury-on-field-convulsion-194515167.html
In all fairness he didn’t even look at Foles while he was on the ground so he didnt know what was going on.
No but on the sidelines he did the “take a nap” motion though.
I expect he will be introduced to the unwritten code and have a few oline chop blocks in his career after those types of antics. Celebrate but have some awareness for goodness sake.
A qb is vulnerable in his ribs and a defensive end is vulnerable in his knees.
I remember USC oline coaches taught their guys how to chop block and resulted in several injuries as a way of reducing aggressive pass rushes.
Isaiah Hodgins with another TD today, that’s 4 in the last 5 games. Pretty well cemented himself as a player in the league and should get paid pretty well next contract.
Who was it on this site that had a scholarship tracker link?
I wanted to bookmark it, or maybe we can link it to the main page. Will be a useful resource over the next few months as guys leave and some elect to stay that extra year. Curious how much room there is for transfers
Any update on DuBose or the Clemson WRs possibly entering the portal?
Was there a Dlineman from Wyoming on the Beavs radar?
No portal updates. Its hard to find any transfer info. Usually dont see them coming until they get announced.
Here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aiO9DPZKktzHAsY7xi5wN_lGUMBwZ33mCC-xJsz3FQ/edit
Adding Kitan and removing Austin, I have us at 83.
Thank you. Will need to see if Angry can put this in the links
WBB hands #10 UCLA their second loss of the season. 77-72
Good win for sure. Curious if Gardiner is ever going to be healthy enough to p.ay.
Andrea Aquino played eventually
Really? Significant minutes? I thought her heart condition meant she would never see the court?
I’m not sure you’re correct on that. They honored her scholarship but I didn’t think she ever played.
She played senior day. As a token.
Just the initial tip off if I recall correctly.
And scored the first points of the game.
Grayson McCall withdrew from the transfer portal,
https://twitter.com/chris_hummer/status/1609678249218523136
2023 College Football Preseason Top 25 Poll Released
https://thespun.com/college-football/look-2023-college-football-preseason-top-25-poll-released
Beavs at #15. It’s basically a re-ranking of current top 25 teams.
Alex Austin declares for the draft. Surprising, especially considering Oladapo’s announcement yesterday to stay. Austin is not at all NFL ready, in my opinion. I hope it works out for him. You just hate to see kids declare to early as they end up hurting themselves and their college team.
Yeah, I agree. He definitely was a solid tackler this year but out of anyone in the secondary he was the “weak” link. Lots of penalties, receptions, etc. Think he could make an NFL roster but personally thought he’d need another year. Wish him the best obviously and perhaps it’s a selfish motivation to want him to come back. Lol.
I’ll be honest, this stings, however if I had to choose between KO and Austin I’d prefer KO. Hopefully Speights returns, he’s a key piece IMO.
I wonder if JS picks up a transfer DB That can make an immediate impact.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Cooper Jr and Robinson were the 2 corners. KO, Thomas and Julian being the safeties and nickels. Felt Robinson played well in the bowl game. Also recall him having a really good fall camp the other year but then had the injury. Pretty sure Cooper Jr played some corner this year already.
Yep Robinson, Cooper, Julian and Oladapo “should” be really good still. I think skyler Thomas is the next dude that’s going to step up and look like an all Pac-12 player also
If Isaiah Dunn can make a roster, Austin can too
Rawls coming back
https://twitter.com/Jrawls_52/status/1609751835170189312?t=A7FVmhR4YyyIzi5fekcDhA&s=19
I’m liking this! Thought he played better than his 3rd team recognition and was easily the best D Line we had this season. Really helps the defense for sure!
This is huge. Omar Speights and Hodgins would be nice too.
The games unfortunately passed Hodgins by.
What? He was our highest rated DT on PFF…
Grant, Fischer, Wright and Austin are gone for sure.
Rawls, Oladapo returning.
Hodgins, Speights still deciding.
Amy others to watch for the defense?
Speights would be great because he could help ease in the young guys like Jordan. ILB depth is pretty shallow if Speights leaves.
Speights was the most important player on defense in the run game. His gap discipline is why he has a shot at making an NFL roster.
Mascarenas and Miller would be ok and Jordan is waiting in the wings. We would miss Speights for sure, but there is talent behind him.
Smith really likes Chisom and has the size to play right away. I want Speights more for the leadership role and continuity.
It’s a huge week for Oregon State and the transfer portal. Wednesday, 1/4, will mark the start of “quiet period” where transfers can take in-person visits to a college campus. This will run through Sunday, 1/8, and is ONLY for transfers (still a dead period for high school players.)
Then, Monday, 1/9, will be the first day of winter term at OSU. So we want to see if DJU is on-campus and if any other transfers will enroll after visiting this coming week.
Rule and recruiting calendar: https://twitter.com/wpialsportsnews/status/1596492423370530820?s=46&t=8S13ZNLxvwbe3VKp1EeA3g
That chart says its for FCS, think the dates are the same for FBS?
Yes, it is the same; silly me copied the wrong URL:
https://twitter.com/wpialsportsnews/status/1596492470535479297?s=46&t=wiEDIi9o1T1PuSnY26KVtw
If those scholarship numbers are correct, and Hodgins and Speights stick around, we’ll be at the 85 max.
Will be curious to see how these numbers play out.
From what I can tell, the biggest areas they’ve been focusing on for transfers are CB, DL and TE. CB makes sense, and DL would make sense, especially of Hodgins doesnt return. But curious why they’re looking at TE’s too.
There are likely to be a handful of more defections, just because there always are a few in the offseason. As it stands though, I dont know how much wiggle room they have to bring in January transfers unless they start out as walkons, knowing a spot will open later.
Probably safe to assume there will be a handful of transfers out in the next week or so
Makes me think they were waiting for the Austin announcement and now they will go hard after the 3x DBs they have offered.
Also, seems likely they will wait for Speights and then push hard for Mason Tufaga if Speights is gone.
Smith did say they recruit their own guys first, so that makes sense.
I met DJU’s dad at an event in Bellflower a couple years back. He was actually a nice and pleasant guy and a very proud dad. He had been dealing with college recruiters for years even before DJ got to Clemson. Both his sons had D1 offers starting in Jr High school. My sense in the short time we talked is he wanted the best environment for DJ and felt Clemson would be it. Don’t know what happened there to change things but hope DJ thrives on the Beavs and in the JS environment. Go Beavs!
Good to hear a positive take on Big Dave.
There has to be a fine line between “proud Dad” and “over involved, living through my boy Dad”.
Managing parents must be one of a HC”s challenges that we don’t often hear of.
Why do you say actually? You just expect to be a big piece of shit or something?
Probably because some people have talked negatively about him on here
Twitter…his uncle deleted several critical tweets of Clemson staff.
I saw those last night. I think he’s right and so do about 90% of Clemson fans apparently. Shit stirring nonetheless.
Because of previous comments.
At least that’s my guess
Return and ascendancy of Beavers continues to be noted:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/beavers-make-bay-area-comeback-17683258.php
While they store water, reduce floodwater energy, improve coho habitat, increase species diversity, ameliorate climate change, stream temperatures, drought, and wildfire, they sure aren’t nice to Ducks or Gators…
Looks like Tulane has a pretty sweet logo. Reminds me of our old rabid beaver logo.
I’ve watched parts of a couple of their games. Their defense hits freakin’ hard. Holding their own so far, only down 14-7
USC thought the game was over at 14-0 but Tulane gets an int and an 87 yard TD pass to tie it up.
Now see how USC responds.
Lol what is with the ref like 2 feet away? Lol how does his miss that?
These cotton bowl announcers are freaking terrible
Mark Jones was one of the ESPN announcers that said he did not want a police escort before or after a game because police actively go out to execute black people. Obviously dude has issues.
I actually like RG3 as an announcer but I think he’s a lot more subdued after he said some things that were apparently controversial. But he can be pretty funny.
Glad we didnt play Miss State in our bowl. Cowbells are freaking obnoxious. Why are they allowed to use noise makers but other fanbases cant?
Next year can every beaver fan show up with air horns?
Apparently it’s a clause written into the SEC rules that allows Miss St to use them at home games (history and tradition…). So I guess they negotiated to use them in the bowl game as a tribute to Mike Leach.
They aren’t supposed to be used during plays, however.
Crazy end to that game!
Wow, the Tulane’s kickers name is giving Atticus Sappington a run for his money…..Valentino Ambrosio. Sound like a British Lord and Italian Count are doing battle! Plus Valentino just nailed his FG!
End of the third, Tulane still hanging with the 5 star mercenaries …oh no then a failed onside kick lol
Looks like LSU would have been a better matchup for OSU. Purdue certainly didn’t put up a fight.
Tulane’s running back Spears is damn good. Tulane’s defense gotta be exhausted. Trojans time of possession killing them.
And just like that Tulane gets a safety.
That was a bad hit and definitely targeting
How is that not targeting?
So if Tulane wins how will that affect the Beavs final ranking.
Remind me again what the criteria is for the Hesiman
OJ its whoever generates the most hype I guess. SC has got the hype machine running non stop so let them leave the conference. I say good riddence to them both. Love the term 5star mercenaries.
It’s fucking gross. The only thing missing in this current hype machine, a billboard in times square.
These dumb fucks just got whacked by a bunch of three stars at Utah, twice. They were 15 seconds from losing to little old osu.
Tulane recruit rankings 2018-2021… 68, 90, 70, 81
Shouldnt the ‘best college football player’ with all 4&5 star roster around him be able to overcome a, greenwave?
Tulane was behind OSU in coaches 16, 17 poll but ahead of OSU in AP poll 14,16
SC about to lose. Not sad about that.
Tulane qb just won with 8/17, 234 yds, no ints
5 star mercenaries lookin shook
F USC….so glad those assholes lost.
Shame we don’t get to keep hearing they’re fucking obnoxious band
Wow. Good for the underdogs! Been great bowl season.
Whats the pac record now in bowls? 3-3?
I guess with the la schools both now in the b1g pac is 3-1
Lol at the departing Cali schools both losing bowl games as favorites.
Yeah, wondering if the BIG10 is rethinking their decision :)
How did we only score 14 points against usc.. oh wait I know.
There was still an idea that Beavs were a passing team before they realized they needed to just run the ball from all backs all the time.
USC can’t hold up against a run heavy offense, too soft and fluffy to endure it just like the ducks. They eventually take big risks to try and stop the damage which leads to even bigger gains by the fourth quarter.
Guess Alex Brink isn’t going anywhere soon…
Hoping we hear from Omar Speights today on his plans.
1 more year! 1 more year!
Expecting OSU to go after BYU transfer CB Gabe Jeudy as one of their top targets now that Austin is headed to the draft.
Was a starter for BYU
https://twitter.com/GabeJeudy/status/1608257093605425154?t=8bqlZ3CqlYuHH87kYUFCRA&s=19
Might not hurt for Beaver fans to offer some words of encouragement to him…
Really good PFF ratings. Looks like a potential future NFL guy.
Did my part lol
6’2”, looks like he needs blue adams height requirement.
If you check his likes on Twitter, a couple involving #GoBeavs, that at lest sounds promising
PAC12 should just give USC and UCLA the boot right now.
Schedule a ten team round robin instead of adding them into the conference schedules. They don’t want to be part of the conference anyway. Let them twist in the wind for a year trying to fill their schedules.
I know it won’t happen but it would be nice to see them feel a bit of consequence for abandoning the conference members.
Wouldn’t think this would be legally possible. I actually wouldn’t mind if they made the schedule as difficult as possible.
Pac12 maybe not as good as we think.
Rose bowl is Risings’ house of horrors
2 years in a row he’s been hurt in the RB game, that sucks
I’d imagine he’s coming back for sure now.
Does this mean Beavs will jump USC and Utah in final rankings?
Top 15 PAc12 teams will be UW, OSU and NikeU in that order hopefully.
Lots to look forward to for next year. Beavs have already addressed their biggest weakness and have a proven system.
Utah may be as good if they get everyone back from injuries. If Rising leaves they will take a step back.
UW may have trouble without the oline returning. Penix likely doesn’t repeat what he did this year.
NikeU will have a tough time getting another year out of Nix like they did this year. New OC too makes me
skeptical.
USC will add more 5 stars but they will still rely on Williams too much and not develop a run game. They were more balanced with Dye healthy.
Chipster can’t replace a qb overnight. They take a step back.
Coach Prime will have talent but not depth and it will catch them by end of the year.
Stanford is in a rebuild.
Cal is in a rebuild.
WSU has no coordinators and is a mess internally. Everyone has figured out Ward.
UA is on the rise but gonna be next
Year.
ASU is a mess and in a rebuild.
Utah has done some pretty good beatdowns of UO and USC in recent years. I still see their D and physicality as the in-Conference standard. Overcome that D, and you can probably overcome others. I know matchups vary and are very important, and there’s no transitive property, but they still seem to be the team that can bring more physical D than other PAC teams.
Scary situation in MNF. Player may have lost his life. Big hit but not sure it was to the head…more like upper chest. He stood up after the tackle then just collapsed. CPR was being performed. Wonder if it is a heart issue? Prayers to D Hamlin of the Bills.
My son’s JV football team went through a similar situation this season. RB hit his head on the turf came off the field and collapsed. A lot of quick thinking and Life Flight saved his life. He is now fully recovered. Praying for the same outcome for Hamlin.
A kid on my son’s JV team had a neck injury that was pretty scary also. Had to bring the ambulance out on the field and everything. He ended up being OK but it was bad at the time.
I had it on in the background on mute and looked up and saw an ambulance on the field and thought that’s not good. Was going to go back and watch the play but decided I don’t need to possibly see a guy die for entertainment. Scary situation, hope he’s OK.
Yeah I did the same actually turned it off figured game was over for the nite…then made the mistake of looking through Twitter for an update later…ugh…canzano posted a clip that popped up on my feed. Can’t unsee it
Yeah it was a heart issue. They applied AED and CPR. Currently the player has a pulse but is not breathing on his own.
Damn, I hope he didn’t go too long without oxygen to the brain.
Hope he pulls through.
Fuckin Ken Block died in a snowmobile accident and Jeremy Renner got ran over by a snowcat.
Great start there 2023.
A highly respected member of another forum I’m a member of fell down a flight of stairs on new years day and died. He was literally posting in a active thread when this happened. 2023, just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse.
You could just tell when he fell and the other players were on top of him that it was a Hank Gathers situation.
https://www.deseret.com/1990/3/17/18851873/quick-shock-might-have-saved-gathers-doctor-says
It’s because of Hank’s death that athletics have an action plan for arrhythmias, no?
Seems to be a popular topic online today, so gotta ask….Did Hank Gathers have his Covid jab?
I saw that and restrained myself here, given the attitudes toward science and reality I recall some having.
But the anti-vaxxers laughing about NFL players actually having a reason to kneel because of the vax effects on “young athletes dropping all over the place” is beyond obscene.
Commotio cordis, apparently.
I’ve only ever seen it happen once, to a baseball player, and that outcome did not involve a defibrillator.
Thanks for the info Jack. I looked up commotio cordis (I had never heard of it) and apparently using a defibrillator right away helps increase survival rate exponentially.
“Experimental data gathered using the commotio cordis swine model suggest that defibrillation within 1 minute of ventricular fibrillation onset results in a 100% survival rate and that defibrillation after 2 minutes results in an 80% survival rate.”
It’s amazing how much efficacy drops in just 60 seconds.
PAC network with a season long summary of all team highlights. Surprisingly, but appropriately, USC’s highlight is the winning TD pass against OSU, with multiple angles to show how close Cooper was. 58+ minutes into the game…damn!
OSU’s highlight is likely not a surprise…
https://pac-12.com/videos/re-live-every-pac-12-football-teams-top-play-2022
AP top 25 predictions have Beavs at #16 to end the year.
They drop Beavs and can’t get the record correct, shows 10-4 at #17 on Yahoo sports. LOL basic research but the top notch coverage can’t even copy and paste the correct record for our Beavs.
Apparently LSU likes to party….haha
Rumors are swirling that a recently dismissed coach is just the beginning of what will likely be more dismissals of coaching staff who were involved in some type of orgy party. Always a good time at LSU. 3 coaching staff in a row with sex scandals taking them down.
https://twitter.com/JacobJZuck/status/1609981886482317318
Wow, that’s pretty crazy
Starting to look like that’s just LSU haha.
Colorado’s kicker enters the portal. Let’s go get him. He’s not great, but he’s steady with a career long of 56 yards.
Prime doesn’t kick field goals, only needs Shedour to throw tds baby!
“Kickers need to hit the portal.”
The Jackson State kicker is coming. He’s part of the “we coming” crew.
He was one of the top FCS kickers, so that’s something.
Is that what they’re calling themselves? Pretty big talk from a bunch of kids who play lower division football. The “we coming…to get our asses handed to us by teams from a real conference” crew doesn’t roll of the tongue but is more accurate.
Coach Cookus started following him this morning. He follows pretty much every available kicker though
Welp, the transfer WR Grant Dubose, from UNC Charlotte, has withdrawn his name from the portal.
Seems odd, he was one of the top, if not the top current player at WR in the portal
The legal “Boosters” probably made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Or the offers on the market weren’t what he hoped for
Gut bomb time. I think the Beavs are in line to pick up JUCO CB Tyrice Ivy Jr from College of San Mateo.
6’3″ 180lbs. Rated as a 3* by 247, but doubt they really have reviewed him thoroughly
Offer list isnt amazing. Hawaii, Wyoming, EWU, Port St, Idaho St
https://247sports.com/Player/Tyrice-Ivy-46099897/
Wyoming does an amazing job scouting every year. That’s a pretty good endorsement to me. Plus, JC guys seem to be getting overlooked with the portal hype in full swing now.
Ryan Cooper also came from this school and he tweeted about Tyrice a few weeks back, so he’s also probably endorsing him.
As spotted by Wilner, Football Zebras dot com gives PAC12 officials some love for their handling of the Peach Bowl:
“This Pac-12 (crew) worked an exemplary game. Multiple close calls and crucial judgments, but each was handled efficiently and accurately.
Head line judge Darryl Johnson, specifically, had an outstanding performance. Sometimes as an official, everything comes your way, and tonight, Johnson was in that position. The two-time national championship H stepped up in each instance and should be proud of tonight’s game.
Overall, what a great game for the crew to finish their season on. Replay only intervened when necessary. The teams decided the outcome and the officials maintained order, and did what was best for the game.
I may be behind what’s happening (not unusual), but has our super QB actually signed the papers yet?
I think he just has to enroll and show up for class.
the date we should be focused on is Jan 9th (first day of winter term) and any news of DJ actually attending classes.
Until that happens, nothing is binding.
Watch Gulbranson transfer and DJU not show up…luck o’ da beavs.
That would suck but even with DJU and BG, Chiles could win the job
Chance will come back and take us to the CFP!
The portal is spirally, so it is possible.
“Say it ain’t so, DJ”……
technically, he could start classes 2 weeks late and still be admitted for Winter term. And if he got a waiver from his professor, i think he could stretch out to 3 weeks. but I wouldn’t anticipate any of those types of delays. Gotta think the team is focused on getting him in on Day 1. And from everything he’s mentioned in interviews, that sounds like his plan too.
He’s probably already in contact with, if not throwing to some Beavs in SoCal.
Angry, is it possible to link Scott’s scholarship tracker spreadsheet to the dashboard? I think it would make a useful resource to readers.
Also, Scott, are you sure both Sappington and Hayes are on scholarship? Seems crazy to have 2 kickers on scholarship at the same time.
And is Punter Dylan Black on scholarship currently? Was thinking he was a walkon, but I can’t verify that either.
Link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14aiO9DPZKktzHAsY7xi5wN_lGUMBwZ33mCC-xJsz3FQ/edit#gid=0
The special teamers are so hard to track. Atticus was headed to College of San Mateo in the summer of 2021, and was actually already moved down there when he announced an offer from OSU and came back up to be on the roster in fall of 2021. I feel like that had to be an actual scholarship to change those plans: https://twitter.com/atticussapping1/status/1424124025282777088?s=46&t=65vFZYTTQ6NOX0GpVVptWA
Dylan Black is harder. Reports do say he was a PWO in 2019. I feel like they were keeping a scholly for the long snapper and when he took over starting, I assumed he got it. But that definitely could be one that is actual -1 to my total.
Black is on scholarship Atticus is not
In-laws being at your house for a week is the worst, btw.
Feel free to make a new thread.
You should just make a thread about that… I feel your pain
Haha.
I read something that said 4 days is the “scientifically proven” longest stay you should make at someone’s house. Feels about right from experience unless you have an incredibly well-planned list of activities or something.
Have specific events for each day, ie get out of the house. Activities make the day go by faster, and provide something for conversation. Make sure it’s something easy to do, if in-laws are older
Walk on Connor Mehlovovich has entered the portal.
Also, thought this one was interesting. Gebbia has entered the portal?
Thought his eligibility was up, but he must have an extra year due to all of the injuries?
2019 – Redshirt Soph
2020 – Covid year
2021 – Medical Hardship?
2022 – Redshirt Junior
Yeah, guess it checks out
This is bizarre I get it from an academic standpoint; he might want to get a degree somewhere other than OSU. If he truly isn’t 100% is anyone going to give him a football scholarship?
Definitely a medical hardship year.
Good for him, he graduated last year I think. So he’s just looking for somewhere to play. He deserves a chance to start somewhere
Must have gotten a medical hardship. He should sue Nike for tearing his hamstring off his bone in that pile during covid ball.
Tristan Gebbia entered the transfer portal today. Didn’t know he had eligibility left.
That would be awesome if he went somewhere and became Aaron Rodgers.
I was thinking more like a miracle
There was a brief blurb a couple of weeks back on some site that mentioned that Gebbia could possibly get another year through a medical exemption or whatever they are called.
Dont know if this is related to Beaux Collins or not, but several Clemson fans are suspicious that it is.
Could be good news for OSU.
https://twitter.com/FaxOnSports/status/1610424235599757312?t=VQFNziozsFbXolJmq0KV7w&s=19
JS doesn’t seem like the tampering type.
Angie started following Beaux Collins this evening, haha.
So either somebody is reading AB and name dropping him to her, or she knows something is up.
I’m leaning towards the former
Beavs wanted him out of high school yeah? Are the followers recent or are they from when he was recruited out of high school?
None of our coaches have followed him recently, but several do follow him already because of when we recruited him a couple years ago.
Angie following him is new though. Just started today
Maybe that’s why Dubose sp? Pulled his name from portal?
No spoilers, but have confirmed a commitment will be coming after this weekend. We also will have a handful of Juco/transfer guys in and out this week for visits, as Bill alluded to a few days ago.
Sweet
Transfer window to enter the portal closes Jan 18th. After that the rosters should be stable until after spring practice.
Can still add players at any point, but they can’t leave for the portal till that post Spring window opens.
Also think players can “retire” at any point, since they wont be headed to the portal
JC
Portal guy??
Gebbia reportedly hitting the portal. Guess he’s trying for a medical waiver and wants to play another year.
Don’t really blame the guy wanting to play another year and not have to beat out BG and DJU for the job. Truly was a case of what if he didn’t get injured in 2020 against the Ducks… Wish him all the best and hope he lands at a school he can play right away. May want to look at lower level schools like G5 or even FCS.
Bummer he never lived up to his 5 star billing. Hope he finds success elsewhere though.
hard to develop when you get your hamstring ripped off the bone and aren’t the same athletically after that.
Turns out the Clemson guy hitting the portal today will not be Collins. Not sure who it is instead, but I know who it isnt.
Doesnt mean Collins couldnt eventually hit the portal, but he’s not the rumored player from last night. Sorry Whatinthebluehell
UCLA adds another transfer from the MAC. They now have a MAC RB, QB, and a K coming from FCS.
#MACtion
UW fans are watching the Michigan Harbaugh situation hesitantly. If Harbaugh leaves for an NFL job, they’re worried Deboer is on the short list of replacements. If Deboer does somehow end up at Michigan, I wonder if UW will come knocking at Smith’s door? Former UW OC and the other Pac12 coach of the year. No idea what Smith’s buyout is after his new deal, but UW has shown a willingness to pay big for their HC position in the past.
I do not see Coach Smith leaving his Alma Mater. He’s in his dream job. He knows how to sell Oregon State to recruits. Also, UW fan base didn’t like him as their OC. Also, we have seen that success at one school, doesn’t mean success at another one as a HC.
Now hear this: He ain’t done yet.
I think he wants a nationally relevant OSU bowl win. “The Convergence” occurring at OSU – defense, O Line, RBs, TE’s, arriving QB talent, home field advantage being established, Reser Rebuilt in ’23, fan support, increased media recognition – and the “big win” opportunity that is a product of all that, is too much to walk away from at this time.
The understandable counter and/or cynical argument is of course “Money talks.” But he’s been at Montlake and helped take them to the CFP.
I don’t even think DeBoer leaves for M just yet, unless he thinks the PAC is going to be markedly less relevant after ’24.
I feel like JS is probably the type that strongly favors and values his kids and the stability of their family/school/church experience much more than money, the stadium, fan support, or any media recognition. I also feel like one of the reasons he’s had such great continuity with his coaches is that he’s been particular in building a staff that have similar values. Same could be said about the kind of players he recruits.
He’s done the hard part in building the program up from nothing but now faces the challenge of maintaining that culture of success over a long period of time, many would argue that the latter is much more challenging to do. If they continue to raise the bar, he can leverage that for a new higher paying contract just like he did this year.
I can see him jumping to the NFL after all the kiddos are out of school, but it would surprise me a lot if he left for a traditional power rebuild or replacement.
Any speculation that Smith would leave anytime soon is ridiculous. He’s not leaving.
UW fans are insane if they are believing something that hasn’t happened or even will happen. Deboer has a very large buyout which I think will come back to bite them. Next year is the when they should be worried. If Penix has a big year, Deboer will be on everyone’s short list and he won’t have a QB ready to go the next year. bold prediction texas fires Sark next year and hires Deboer to coach Archie Manning.
Note that UW, almost quietly given the USC and Ore hype, finishes the season with the best overall PAC win percentage and and a bowl victory.
Apparently their odd, 7 point loss @ ASU featured a pass-ricochet-off-the-helmet-pick 6, and a bunch if UW injuries.
If their D improves, they’re going to ve dangerous in ’23.
UW @ OSU in ’23 gonna be a fun one and could get a nice TV slot…and you know Smith wants that one. Course he wants them all…
Aaron Rodgers was right.
Bills locker room experienced the controversy over the vaccine first hand with Cole Beasley getting suspended etc for his refusal. I think the Bills as a team understood what happened on the field.
Not sure about that…
Scary sh*t going on with athletes dropping these days…
https://airtable.com/shrbaT4x8LG8EbvVG/tbl7xKsSUIOPAa7Mx
Look at the eyes of the players in the videos after he collapsed. They may realize he died on the field and be shocked at that moment but the next logical thought is, l.. what if it could happen to me as quickly?”, since they all had the vaccine. I think the media knew as well and stumbled along with no info waiting for the proper cover story.
NFL has a gag order on players and teams are cancelling pressers this week.
Don’t you think we would have had more of these events last year or during training camp, let alone the college game?
It has happened and is happening in soccer world wide and in youth sports. The heart related incidents are astronomically higher than past years since the vaccine rollouts.
It is now a matter of not wanting to see it rather than it isn’t happening.
The NFL has a vested interest in not bringing attention to vaccine related health issues. This one just happens to be on MNF in one of the biggest games of the year.
I’m not saying it’s not a real trend, but what would make you blame the vaccine as opposed to COVID itself? We know that COVID can cause heart issues, and we know that almost everyone- vaccinated or not- has had it at this point. We also know that COVID itself causes long term issues in some people.
The disease, rather than the vaccine, causing long term issues seems like a much simpler and likelier explanation.
Good point, in fact I heard Fred Thompson was an early test vax tester, splains a lot.
At the very beginning of Covid, my mom was one of the earlier people to get sick with it. And a few months later she ended up getting a pacemaker for her heart as well. This was before the Covid vaccine existed, but I suspect she actually was sneaky and got an early Covid vaccine shot before anybody else did and that is why she had heart trouble.
What you have contracted is called johnstocktonitis.
Here’s what the doctor said
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35372272/a-cardiologist-view-happened-buffalo-bills-safety-damar-hamlin
Perhaps it is simply Covid related and not the vaccine but no one is allowed to ask the question regarding vaccines.
https://truthsocial.com/users/TWC4health/statuses/109631858817052277
Another leading cardiologist on Tucker Carlson.
‘During the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough has promoted misinformation about COVID-19, its treatments, and mRNA vaccines.’
Consider the source
Here is a compelling argument against vaccine injury to Bill player. The VAERS reports I have heard has 50,000 US deaths, ( the reporting by physicians runs around 1 %), so the numbers are astronomical. This video shows Damar Hamlin had major head trauma.
https://banned.video/watch?id=63b46f85779ce20772007a83
Not sure how that guy can say there was no hit to the chest. I don’t think he’s ever taken a Physics course. The blow to the chest essentially stops his body from moving forward, but his head keeps traveling forward briefly. It’s possible he sustained a small amount of whiplash, but that’s a neck injury, that’s not head trauma. I’m not sure why it’s so hard for people to accept commotio cortis as the cause.
Maybe it is tough to accept because the first time anyone heard of it was Tuesday morning.
What I’ve read about commotion cortis is the impact velocity needs to be 40 mph- 200 mph directly at the heart region, but the physics of the football pads distribute any impact away from the chest area and that wasn’t a 40 mph impact on that tackle. He was met by the helmet of the runner but he was tackling from a side angle as well. It may have been a fluke accident but to silence and dismiss all other concerns and questions make me more suspicious it wasn’t just a fluke 1/200 million accident.
You may not have heard of it until Tuesday, but it’s certainly not new. It’s been diagnosed for hundreds of years. And it doesn’t require a 40-200 mph impact, thats bad info. It requires 50 joules of energy. To put that into perspective, a 190 lb guy traveling at 10 mph has 861 joules of kinetic energy. When the players collide, that kinetic energy is transmitted to their pads/bodies. It’s easily conceivable that 50 joules or more was transmitted through his pads to his chest.
I guarantee there are 1000s of medical diagnoses you’ve never heard of, unless you were a healthcare provider, and even then
It’s interesting how we’ve gone from:
“they’re falsely counting every death as a covid death to inflate the numbers”
to
“every death is related to the covid vaccine”
Not every death, but fast growing tumors/cancers, Heart issues, etc are related to the vaccine.
You won’t trust that millions died from an infection or rather complications from infection, but you suspect every death you don’t understand or diagnosis you are unfamiliar with, is somehow a result of a vaccine?
Yall may want to buy name brand and pass on that store brand tin foil for your headwear.
Napoleon would have won at Waterloo, if it hadn’t been for the vaccine.
This tracks with their honor and integrity as citizens.
Anyone seen the documentary Died Suddenly?
https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html
I tried for the spectacle of stupid it brings, but I’d rather listen to a Stormfront album.
Pretty good album if you ask me. That’s peak Billy Joel.
Anyone see how Chiles did in the UA AA game? I didn’t see him listed as a standout in any articles, but I can’t find stats anywhere.
I think the game is this weekend. And there are a few clips on twitter of him throwing during their practices
The game was yesterday.
Just practice reports so far. Game hasnt happened yet.
https://twitter.com/BrandonHuffman/status/1610749159706877954?t=-7RyeEv6GAGpEO9TPK-coQ&s=19
Thanks. I did see this:
On3 All-American Bowl QB Rank after First Practice:
1. Austin Novosad, Oregon
2. Dante Moore, UCLA
3. Lincoln Kienholz, Ohio State
4. Aidan Chiles, Oregon State
5. Christopher Vizzina, Clemson
6. Pierce Clarkson, Louisville
Our QB room is going to be stacked this year. I’d say Lindgren definitely brought it this cycle after disappointing in previous years.
My apologies, you are right. I didn’t realize there are 2 HS All American bowl games and some players play in both.
Quite a turnaround for Chiles, play Saturday and then start classes on Monday.
Yeah his mom talked about a busy weekend with moving in, heading to the AA stuff, and then coming back for classes. Good thing first day is just syllabus day :)
Now we have confirmation that Beaver football is truly the Force for Good holding back evil in the world. The season ends and everyone suddenly gets COVID brain.
Put a new thread up. This one is getting slow