There's still ten days left to resolve the issues, so not time to panic yet, but as of right now:
1. In California, I cannot watch Oregon State games, even with a Comcast subscription. They say the Oregon regional channel will be available live/online at some point. Apparently it will never be available on TV (at least not this season), so we're stuck with watching games on the computer.
2. Dish and Direct TV subscribers are still screwed (thought Wilner is saying Direct TV might have a deal soon).
3. Everyone has questions, nobody has answers. There is mass confusion on the Comcast message boards.
I don't understand how each team can receive 20mil per year, but the games aren't on TV…anywhere…
Does anyone gets these channels yet, and does anyone get the regional channels outside of their area? Frustrating! I can't believe I am saying this, but I'd rather have last year's setup. Very underwhelming and disorganized debut.
My boss owns the local cable company and picked it up. It won’t be available until the 5th but I’ll have Pac 12 National and Pac 12 Oregon. He became a big Beaver fan because of the Rodgers brothers :)
Where is local? We don’t know where you live.
Didn’t think it mattered, unless you live in Ashland, small town in Southern Oregon. http://www.ashlandhome.net/
I’m not far away in Grants Pass. We’ve got Charter. Who is your carrier?
Ashland Home Net
Here’s some more reading on this subject:
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2012/08/19/2068191/pac-12-fans-want-their-pac-12.html
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/19802949/pac-12-network-debuts-now-everyone-please-calm-down
What a disaster!
I haven’t really had a problem with the network so far. I am a Comcast subscriber and the main channel has worked fine from day 1. I’m under the assumption the other regional channels won’t really be running until closer to when fall sports begin. They would have nothing to broadcast during the offseason. The main channel has been playing reruns of classic Pac 10-12 games the past week, and I’ve watched a few while working. It’s been helping me get pumped up for the new season.
I’ve looked into the Comcast online and the Android/Apple apps, and the Pac-12 website those won’t be available until later in August. That’s fine since there really aren’t any games to watch until the end of the month anways. Right now I’ll just be patient and let them handle their business getting things put together in time for the season.
It is funny seeing the lack advertisers they have right now. I saw the same “Titanic-Own your own Hearth of the Ocean” commercial about 10 times in 2 hours. Do you really think the Pac-12’s target market is buying replica jewelry while watching football? too funny…
On the other hand, if I were a viewer without any access to the channel, I would be pissed right now. I think this is the first time I’ve been happy to be a Comcast customer.
I’m trying to stay calm, but each day I check and it’s not showing up I get more angry!
I might cancel this entirely and just bum the online subscription off my family back east. There’s no reason to buy cable if I don’t get the one channel I want…
angry angry!
For those of you interested….Angrybeaver is back as the center logo this year. There was speculation they may go with a OS to match the track, but my bet is that since they know there will be new branding next year that they wanted a smooth transition at that point. Makes sense. They may retire angrybeaver come 2013, but we don’t know yet. The logo stretches just beyond the 42.5 to the 42.5 and a little shy of 42-42. They got that part right and it does look like the Angrybeaver may be set up a bit better where he is not as flat and more like the 2000 Beavers and how the logo is supposed to be where the right side sits up a touch higher just like it is on the basketball court. They messed that up last time and had it incorrectly too flat. (In IMO that made the Beaver seem less confident so I am glad it appears to be better this time.)
http://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser1/
Need to retire that thing ASAP and get checkered endzones! Our endzone font is ugly
I’m optimistic about the rebranding. I can live with giving the AngryBeaver one final year if he does get retired for 2013. His best chance of surviving I think is if the Reser logos disappear next year. I don’t see that happening with OSU still wearing ‘AL’, even on the practice jerseys. That seems like overkill for half a finished stadium unless Pat Reser has indeed promised a nice future contribution for the stadium. I expect Tinker will prefer to design his own beaver as a secondary logo rather then keep angrybeaver which has had its good run. That makes it a larger project and more in tune with the length the rebranding is taking us vs. other schools.
It will be interesting how much the rumored beavertail waffle endzone design looks like a checkerboard. I think it can be done for sure but am curious as to exactly how they pull the effect off. I expect these endzones, a diagonal OSU central logo and the Reser logos, which get more prime real estate then they deserve, next year. Would rather have a new secondary beaver of some sort take up the Reser spots as it would be far better at getting the brand out there to a national audience. The Reser thing kinda limits us and does not exactly lure in the creme de la creme of impressionable top recruits. How many 4 star recruits are we going to sell with it to pick OSU over other attractive options?
The rebranding definitely can help but details matter if you want maximum impact. Those Reser logos IMO put a cap on the Beavers, even with good rebranding, that would be higher with better logos that distinctly sell our university brand in their place. If the goal is to be a consistent national program that breaks into the rankings most years in the modern era, everything must be evaluated with the absolute purpose to get OSU to the top and stay there.
They must be practicing, the webcam is grayed out.
I’ve had Comcast, and Comcast tends to be a disaster across the board. My expectation for them was to screw this up. I can’t comment on anything dish related. All the channels look good on my TV, though.
OSU-Nicholls State is only on one channel while Cal-Nevada will be on the other 6 channels. If the Pac-12 Network has 2 games on at the same time they should put one on the national channel and the other one on all of the regional channels.
Genius!!!
You should give them that feedback- smart.
I live in Hillsboro and have Comcast. I get channel 421 which is the regular Pac-12 channel and the Oregon regional channel is 420 I also get the HD version of the Oregon regional channel which is 720.
I’m not sure if these Pac-12 channels are included in my regular service or are part of my additional sports package which I’ve had for years anyway to watch the Speed Channel and some of the more obscure ESPN channels.
The National Network is part of the Sports Package, and the Regionals come free with Basic/Digital Subscriber. At least that’s what I was told…we’ll see.
This is correct Angry.
I was ‘trying’ to watch the PAC-12 network this weekend when they were showing a replay of Cal/Colorado game. The video was so poor, I felt like I was going to have a seizure. The feed was shaking/blurry; completely unwatchable.
That was isolated to just that replay. The reat have looked great. Even the pre hdtv ones look good.
OT, we have from multiple sources that Ward and Jenkins are splitting touches with the 1s for the second consecutive day, with Woods and Agnew bringing up the 2s. Brown off the radar.
This is after “I have a top two in mind.”
Not good…
That has to be some kind of motivational tactic…there is no way Riley is dumb enough to go with Ward and Jenkins…
Is he??
Yes
@kerryeggers Malcolm Agnew and Storm Woods are in dead heat to start at tailback for Oregon State vs. Nicholls State. Division of opinion among coaches
I’d start Agnew but give Woods 10 carries…see what he can do in a game. Then reassess.
That is how I would do it. Riley usually makes the right call for the running backs. I think it will take 2 games to get a good assessment, I don’t know how much we will learn about the running game against Nicholls State.
“My hammy, my hammy!’
Just a matter of time till Woods is it. Those injuries never seem to go away.
I agree with that, although Riley never likes to use two backs like that. I wonder why not one of the running backs or even stevenson don’t do kickoff returns? I am not really liking Marble back there.
Because that would be smart.
How is it that Kerry Eggers is the only one that gets good, substantive, quality info?
Are all the other guys just not smart enough to ask the right questions?
He’s been friends with Riley for like 40 years.
Not good at all unless Riley is trying hard core Sun Tzu deception to make sure he beats a measely non-FBS Nicholls St. Considering as I am confident he still hasn’t read ‘The Art of War’, this is rather concerning.
Riley had 2 in mind last week meaning the two in mind don’t need reps with the 1’s because they’ve already got the top 2 spots in his mind. So now, he’s trying to see if the others impress him enough to change his mind. Expect Agnew and Woods as our 2 backs this season. Agnew as the first and second down backs with Woods as the 3rd and short 4th and short back.
OT, with the whole, ‘Nothing to lose’ mentality, that the Beavs should have this season mean that Riley will do what the ducks do in going for it on yardage shorter than 4th and 2 when past their own 35 yard line? If so, that is a risk/reward type of play and I believe it would be entirely upon how the defense shakes out this season. What are your thoughts?
Good assessment. Your comment and Eggers tweet make me feel better. So does hope Dish could be live by season’s start. I think Riley should go for more 4th and 2.5 or less this year. Stats show it is worth it. More chances for TDs and the net gain from punting is not worth eliminating those opportunities too often. Players enjoy playing and being led confidently.
As far as Woods and Agnew, they are a good 1-2 punch. I say start Agnew but give Woods 11 or 12 runs. Maybe Agnew can get 115 yards against Nicholls St and Woods 85 for 200 between them. Throw in a Gwacham and/or a Mullaney TD and it will be a good first game that builds team chemistry and confidence before amping for the Badgers.
He is trying to let Agnew and Woods learn to run without any holes…..for as soon as a couple OL go down with injuries, thats how its gonna be.
That Riley is hella clever dude.
?@RichCirminiello #WillieLyles on third-party recruiting … why is it that no one ever investigates certain high school coaches?
?@RichCirminiello #WillieLyles … “Never once in my relations with Oregon was I asked to steer kids for pmt” … he told that to NCAA as well in meetings
?@RichCirminiello #WillieLyles …”I thought Oregon could have trated me better, but that’s no NCAA infraction …great program…I’d still tell that to kids”
@RichCirminiello #WillieLyles …”Only after they gave immunity to the kids I worked with would I agree to talk to NCAA. Couldn’t have kids impacted by this”
?@RichCirminiello Just spoke with #WillieLyles about #Oregon, #NCAA sit… “They did nothing wrong …if there are sanctions, I’d be shocked if they’re major”
Great plan ncaa. give immunity to your witnesses while the criminals send hush money to the jobless Lyles. funny how he no longer wants to pursue the $25k Oregon is on breach of contract fpr never paying him. not worth it? Than why have a contract in the first place? this smells like a cover up more and more.
Some more reading: http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/08/20/oregon-ncaa-investigation.htm
Gotta think a ruling is coming soon since this thing is heating up…
Nike’s photon shield will protect Oregon. Slap on the wrist is all they’ll get.
Then what in hell was all the phoning and MONEY for? He didnt send them any ordinary recruiting package. What was the $50 k for (the 25 he got and the 25 they cancelled when the shit hit the fan???
…and suddenly Lyles is telling the truth? Anyone actually believe him, now?
field pic
?@Coach_Riley
Painting midfield and endzones in Reser Stadium #GoBeavs2012 http://pic.twitter.com/TRyeSpgn
An improvement. Atleast the font matches our official lettering. I like the outline effect. It’s not too common and OSU looks like it is competing in the year 2012. Can anyone confirm if the other end says ‘Beavers’?
I hope they leave the lettering the way it is. I’m digging just the orange outline.
?@OSUBeaversFB
1st and goal from the 1. Vaz spots Wheaton for a TD. Parker goes “TD Beavers” http://pic.twitter.com/kFJ4deuV
Here in Bend, I have the Sports package with Bend Broadband. We have two HD channels, (I’m assuming PAC 12 HD and PAC 12 Oregon HD). On Std def, we have all the Pac 12 regional channels.
Hmmm. In my area the PAC12 main is only crappy standard def…
I wish I had your cable network! I’d get the national network, but I’m assuming that I’ll be able to watch all OSU games without needing that package. We shall see though.
OSUBeaversFB OMG! Mullaney with an incredible 1 handed snag with DB all over him. Beaver Nation u r going to like this guy.
@beaverkman RT:?@mlhdesigner Good news if true. RT @BlitzTRice: Rumors that Dish Network has reached a deal with Pac-12 Networks. Part of premium ESPN package. #RUMOR
@beaverkman RT:?@OSU_WSoccer Start celebrating Corvallis! Final score OSU 1, Portland 0. 1st time in program history OSU wins @UP http://yfrog.com/gzsu9afnj
Good job!
Okay, I live in Orange County So Cal. I signed up for the TWC Sports package so I could get the Pac-12 network. I only get the nation wide (ch369hd) and the regional (ch370hd) channels. I can login with my TW login on the pac-12 site. But here is my question. Can I get the OSU games via online at the Pac-12 site? Their site SUCKS when it comes to information.
Hey Bill-
This is waaay OT but have you been to the park that they made out of MCAS El Toro? I was stationed there in the mid 90s and we transitioned to MCAS Miramar. Some USMC friends on facebook have posted some pics of the park,apparently they have concerts in the hangars and events and shit. Seems like a cool idea,it’s prime real estate and I always assumed they would turn it into a mall or some stupid crap. Glad to see they’re doing something more constructive.
Semper Fi amigo, even if you were a winger (lol) …Bob 1302
If you can authenticate yourself, then YES. I think for the first game, you just need to pick the Pac-12 Oregon feed.
Sweet, thanks ChimTen. I gotta say that this whole North / South slit sucks because I can’t see them live every year (playing down here). I was right there at the USC / OSU game when they tried to take Quizz’s head off in the endzone…. and no flag. Still pissed off!
WFO, I took my daughter to a Warp Tour concert at the old El Toro base a couple months back. Huge undeveloped areas still. Orange County Sheriffs have their new academy there and there is condos for the those trying to get off the streets (very nice I might add). I think the concert was where you are talking about…. they had a merry go round and all. The runways are all still there and it is awesome (http://rent.ocgp.org/el-toro-field)
This sucks, didn’t know this rule:
(from Eggers):
The Beavers will not be able to replace the scholarships of offensive guard Michael Beaton and defensive tackle Mana Tuivailala — who both quit the team last week — because they were active at the start of training camp. …
Pretty neat deal for SR Tuivailala! Show up for a couple days of camp, then walk away with a free full ride!
That’s fucking horseshit.
Know we know why MR seemed so sheepish announcing this. He got punked.
I read a tweet by John hunt saying that Beaton is still at school but is off scholarship.
@JHuntweet: Spoke to Michael Beaton, who left the OSU team. He will stay in school, no longer on scholarship, and said “football wasn’t working out.”
I wonder what wasn’t working out? Lack of playing time? Lack of success? Keeping him from his studies? Girls?
Maybe he just doesn’t like football as much as he loves something else.
Why is that hard to understand?
I’m just curious to why it didn’t work out. I understand people loose the passion to play sports, just curiosity.
I’ve heard he’s really into acting and wants to pursue that instead. It’s probably tough to rehearse/practice for two time-consuming endeavors at the same time.
Tuivailala just never had any passion for the game… or school.
Interesting, I would never have guessed acting. Following in the footsteps of John Matuszak and OJ, hopefully minus the drugs, early death, and murder.
?@JHuntweet
Spoke to Michael Beaton, who left the OSU team. He will stay in school, no longer on scholarship, and said “football wasn’t working out.”
Just because he’s a big dude who looks like a football player, doesn’t mean he’s a football player. He probably just doesn’t love the game and know it isn’t leading to a career in football. Too bad he didn’t figure this out sooner though.
He was a position of need. He was probably talked into staying for longer than he wanted.
If someone is a Senior and they do everything right and went to school/ practice they should get their school paid for. That is a rule meant to protect the players if you think about it. Blaming the players for that is stupid- blaming the coach for mismanagement makes much more sense.
Sad news at Reser Stadium…they filled in the orange outline of Oregon State with White. :( You can see the E in State in the North endzone. They should have left the orange outline; it looked a lot better that way. oh well…hope Tinker has something better lined up.
http://webcam.oregonstate.edu/reser1/
I figured it would happen. It’s good that they hanged up the font though to keep the athletic program consistent. Sill, just the orange outline looked pretty sweet.
I have been with Direct TV since 1995. I called Direct TV and asked to talk with a supervisor about the Pac 12 Network. The supervisor told me that they are still in negotiations with the Pac 12 and
hope to reach agreement by September 1st. Supervisor also said the Pac 12 National and Regional channels will be sold under the Premium Sports package, whatever that is. She also indicated that I will get an email when Pac 12 Network is added to package.
I think it used to be called the “Sports Pack” and it will cost you about $13. I get it every year for the three or four months of college football season. Unless, DirecTV comes through, I’m going backwards into the 90’s when maybe three or four games were on and the rest I had to listen on the radio.
Anybody need Wisconsin tickets? Need to get rid of a pair in upper level
?@JHuntweet
Storm Woods with a nice 14-yard TD run in scrimmage, bowling over Zimmerman. Leg up?
Hoops in Paris
?@OregonStateMBB
Beavs lead 25-16 after first quarter. There are four 10-minute quarters. Angus and Roberto each with 7 points.
Mike Parker is giving play-by-play on the scrimmage sort of.
http://www.kejoam.com
Woods had 9 carries for 52 yards an 2 TDs.
I’m excited to see this kid play.
I’ll take 5 yards a carry with a couple of scores. Could he be making a final push for the top spot?
I wonder how napkins taste with French Dijon mustard?
Did Gomis ever get the Visa thing fixed?
Yeah. 12:30 am twitter pic:
http://twitter.com/OregonStateMBB/status/237812812183916544/photo/1
@OregonStateMBB
Beavs lead St. Charles 58-45 after three quarters. Angus Brandt with 15 points and 11 rebounds.
76-59 final… Angus with 17 and 13.
Angus 6 of 13, tallest guy on other team 6-8. Two three pointers made, so he wasnt exactly killing it in the paint against smaller guys.
Go Beavs! RT:?@CliffGT Training camp Day 14, scrimmage report: http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/opinion/blogs/cliff-kirkpatrick/article_0cc9f6cc-ebd3-11e1-b598-0019bb2963f4.html#.UDP6dGB7-kg.twitter
Can only carry 83 schollies, York, Kell are among those who should get schollies. Video of Mannion at the bottom page. Woods got the most production.
@JHuntweet More little mistakes this time: RT @Coach_Riley: Good work today in the scrum, need to keep focusing on the details. #GoBeavs2012
Most of the seniors held out.
Lettuce boy struggling. We can’t afford to have an so so kicker.
Lettuce boy…..now thats sure to give him a boost in confidence….. Heard from the stands..”You can do it, Lettuce boy!!” “Nail it, LB!!”
That cheer sounds like a keeper. Perhaps we can snag a sponsorship frm Hidden Valley dressing.
Although Hunt said Lindsay is the primary FB reporter for the O it is nice to see him doing several stories while Lindsay does the fluff.
Note that Cliff says Obum was “rested” for this scrimmage, Hunt says he was out due to an ankle injury. For this one, I’m hoping Cliff is correct……..probably will turn out that it is a minor ankle concern. Obum is one of the guys who could make a big difference this season, needs to stay healthy.
11 days till we get an indication of what this team and staff are all about. GO BEAVS
I think he rested his injured ankle. It doesn’t sound serious.
Mullaney seems to be the guy to watch, he might have an impact this year. I would say that the WR’s look solid. I still need to see where the TE’s are at. The QB’s are 50-60 this Fall, now that gets me excited, but I wonder where the or how the Defense will be? I worry about the Safeties and LB’s.
“…while Lindsay does the fluff.”
There’s a comment in there, somewhere…
http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082112aad.html. damn, angus. i’ve always been kinda luke warm on him, but it sounds like he was a monster today. 17 and 13 is impressive no matter who it’s against. losing cunningham killed me but this group is definitely piquing my curiosity more and more. i do wonder about how good this st. charles team is though..
I googled it…. 7th in their level 2 French pro league last year. A team of mostly small forwards. a bunch of 6-5 to 6-6 guys, tallest 6-8. So Angus should have had a good day. Still its a pro team, full of well developed players.
Here’s more on the scrimmage. Lot of good.
@OSUBeaversFB
Malik Gilmore and Storm Woods provide highlights in Tuesday’s scrimmage. http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082112aab.html #gobeavs
I am not going to bag on the positive, but with 7 TE’s and a ton of WR’s, why have they offered 3 WR?
Maybe we’re planning on putting some of those tight ends on the line similar to how Stanford has been operating the past few years? Might as well put those big bodies to use blocking for the runners.
Beavers website put out a scrimmage report with stats for anybody interested.
http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082112aab.html
Good to see Mitch Singler contributing.
Interesting they didn’t mention all the holding and false start penalties… ;)
You joking? Or did that play a big part in todays scrimmage? I know they had refs and supposedly parker was doing some play by play. Did you listen in?
No, I’m not joking…check out the new write up. Comments are based on direct Riley/Banker quotes.
Did Remmers make a guest appearance?
Romaine 2-4 on FGs…ugh.
I’m sure he’ll step it up when in a pressure situation…….like kicking for the game winner vs Nicolls State.
Lettuce Boy is money.
I just cannot believe the reality of this first week Pac12 network failure. OSU and Cal both play 12:30-3:30. Then rerun womens soccer for 4 hours. Then the next game at 730. Result in Bay Area, CA is that they will show the Cal game in HD. AND both standard def channels. No OSU game available on any level of service. Followed by no game!!!
This is pathetic. This is entirely the fault of Bob de careless and an athletic depart that has Parkinson’s by default. Thats harsh, but thats true. Either Change the game time to the open slot or get the game on one of the 3 available Pac12 channels(not in oregons region). Seriously.
Soooooo…..less than a week until the first Pac12 games and still no directv contract?
Horseshit.
At least it looks like some of the games will also be on fox or espn? Will those games also be on the Pac12 interweb site?
well, no Charter PAC 12 TV as far as I know, either. When I signed up with Charter two weeks ago, the gal at the Charter office didn’t even know what the PAC 12 network was!!
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