24.Mar.2010 Schopenhauer v. The Kool-Aid

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All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.

That’s a five-star quote if I’ve ever read one.

There’s a revolt brewing, angry beavlings. A Civil War; a fractured fan base. Fight the good fight.

File this one under “academics.”

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  • JackBeav says:
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    I’ve seen this quote before, and I know not whence it came. I’ve never run across it in any of Schopenhauer’s writings. I think you’re taken by something not quite logical. Read it again. This time parse the words like I know you can. Does this truly sound like Schopenhauer?

    Here are a couple:
    “The greatest achievements of the human mind are generally received with distrust.”

    “In the sphere of thought, absurdity and perversity remain the masters of the world, and their dominion is suspended only for brief periods.”

  • angrybeaver says:
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    I’ve never read his work, but the quote is attributed to him. Ghandi had a similar one.

    Spinoza is my favorite philosopher, but unfortunately he doesn’t have any good football related quotes.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Like I said, I’ve seen it before. But it’s not like him to generalize… except about religion. When Schopenhauer speaks of truth and reality, he speaks of the constraints of man’s mind imposed on man himself.

      He did study the Eastern philosophies in depth, and they have some quotes speaking of the progressions of truth, reality and spiritual awakening.

      So with that I leave you with the Buddha:
      “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find anything that agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” –Siddhartha Gautama – The Buddha

      I don’t recall any Spinoza quotes which might be good, but I do like this one:
      “They must find it difficult… those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority.” –Gerald Massey

    • angrybeaver says:
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      That Massey quote is solid.

      “But it’s not like him to generalize.”

      True, not *all* truth passes through those stages because truth is inherent and self-sufficient and humans are doing nothing more than deciphering it. Just like every musical melody exists, and humans do nothing more than find it–we call this “creating”. He probably should have at least put a clause to explain he was talking about human reason and it’s relationship with truth.

  • BeavGirl says:
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    Look at these Socrates all up in here :p

    I can almost hear this post wooshing past Organ’s head.

  • Will Rogers says:
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    “When ignorance gets started it knows no bounds”

    hehe

    • angrybeaver says:
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      “When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.”
      Jonathan Swift

      😉

    • JackBeav says:
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      “Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.”
      –Will Rogers

      “Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance, is the death of knowledge.” –Alfred North Whitehead

      “In life, unlike chess, the game continues after checkmate.”
      –Isaac Asimov

  • Ironic Bob says:
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    You talk of revolution and “angry beavlings” as if you have a group of followers… yet, 9 of 10 posts in the thread were by the same three ID’s that dominate the posts on this site: angry, jack, and the girl.

    Yep, looks like you’re amassing quite an army that is ready to shake the foundations of Beaver Nation! LOL!

    Sadly for you, it seems trying to dig up quotes from “impressive” sources still does not equate to your site actually being relevant with anyone other than the three of you (if in fact there actually are three people that write the angry, jack, and girl posts).

    • angrybeaver says:
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      “All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed; Second, it is violently opposed; and Third, it is accepted as self-evident.”

      You’re in stage two. See you on the other side.

  • Truth says:
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    “Irrelevant douche bags are still irrelevant, no matter how many famous people they quote”.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      You’re caught in between stage 1 and 2. Which means you have work to do.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Think of how the reader must feel since you not only fail to quote someone famous. You also fail to provide a relevant or intelligent quote.

      You barely make stage 1… I think… maybe. It’s just so feeble an attempt that nobody can really tell. I don’t know where angry gets the idea you’ve surpassed it in any way.

      I think Mark Twain said something about lightning and fools, but I’m so uninspired by your infirm ideas that apathy is setting in.

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  • angrybeaver says:
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    “KRod” is at it again in the baseball series.

    Beavs drop 2 of 3 to LBS? Ouch.

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