05.Jan.2015 General Discussion

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There’s nothing I want to write about right now.

So have at it in a general discussion until something interesting pops up.

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  • Calibeav says:
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    https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/1051/1639616.pdf

    Pretty solid break down by Mama of the new coaches and their fit and philosophy.

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      She used your low hanging fruit phrase. You should charge or sue her LOL.

      • Calibeav says:
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        Shes changing a lot.. She’s probably been snooping in over here and taking back Angrybeav wisdom nuggets to her Mama Machodo tree nest…

        She has been throwing shots at Riles and crew a lot lately.

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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          Nothing nastier than a woman scorned.

          • scotty says:
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            I hope Riley at least broke things off with her in person and didn’t just leave a text.

            “Hey Angie thx 4 the good times but I found someone new. Sry it was never meant 2 b. -Riles”

            “Btw it’s cool if u want Banker. No hard feelings he’s always wanted 2b head coach if you don’t mind sloppy seconds lol jk golly”

        • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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          She’s been more critical of Riley the past couple seasons iirc. At least this season for sure she was tweeting a lot of criticism. I think it reflects the fanbase as a whole souring on Riley over the past few seasons.

  • carltogr carltogr says:
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    I find it hilarious that UO identity is that it has none….personally I like the helmets.

    What is UO’s intent?

    1) Make money?
    2) Show-off?
    3) Create hype?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls14/story/_/id/12122963/nike-oregon-uniforms-national-title-game-include-no-green

    • scotty says:
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      attentiOn whOres

      • carltogr carltogr says:
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        Oprah “O” with Oprah’s mug on the side of the helmet would be nice to see!

        • scotty says:
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          YOU get an ugly uniform! YOU get an ugly uniform. EVERYBODY GETS AN UGLY UNIFORM!!! woooooooooooo

    • Jack says:
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      “As was the case for last week’s semifinals games, the uniforms feature a diamond-colored swoosh that symbolizes the goal to obtain a championship ring.”

      Am I missing something here? When someone uses the word “symbolizes,” doesn’t that mean they draw an symbolic meanings of things, ideas, images, etc. to “symbolize” that which they want to “symbolize?”

      Diamond-colored? I can only imagine that they want this to be the color of the best diamonds. Since the scale from least to best goes from yellow to clear, and since we were already told there would be no yellow, one can only logically conclude that these “swooshes” can’t even be seen… because they are clear… completely transparent… unlike the school itself.

      I shouldn’t bother with what the Swouche really means according to actions, not hype. So I won’t.

      Suffice it to say that I think a corporate logo drawing on decades of human suffering should not be seen on any uniform representing a school claiming to be of higher learning. So I applaud this invisible application… which “symbolizes” a goal… a goal to win some jewelry… which might in and of itself be more a symbol of something than all this crap.

      Conclusion: They’re wearing an invisible symbol of an idea involving a real symbol.

      • scotty says:
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        The diamonds symbolize buying championships. Very appropriate! Scotty approves 🙂

  • whatever says:
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    OSU’s Khiry Shelton has signed a contract with Major League Soccer, projected as high as #3 overall in the MLS draft.

    http://www.sbisoccer.com/2015/01/shelton-headline-seniors.html

    • scotty says:
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      So torn between an upvote for OSU player success and a downvote for soccer 🙁

      • whatever says:
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        I know, right? Hey, I’d love a national championship in any sport and OSU soccer is on the rise. Plus, soccer games are a great excuse to get drunk, if you need an excuse.

        • Jack says:
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          OSU soccer has a good year… then their best player gets drafted in the first couple picks… then they suck for four years… then they have a good year… then….

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Another 4* dual threat QB to watch in connection with Beavs coaching staff, Lamar Jacks. Currently a Louisville commit. Saw that he was recently followed by Moevao and Guinta (Beavs new directory of player personnel) on Twitter, and today he started following both guys back. Seems like a good sign there’s at least some interest since he reciprocated.

    https://twitter.com/tito_Ljackson/followers

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      Another Louisville player was offered by OSU today. 3* safety out of Florida, Sheldrick Redwine

      Sheldrick Redwine ?@_23NeverLeft

      Offered From Oregon State University #Beavers #30 ??????????

      http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Sheldrick-Redwine-158558

      • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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        Corey Bender ?@Corey_Bender 52s53 seconds ago

        #Louisville commit Sheldrick Redwine tells me he cancelled his #USF visit on the 16th to visit #OregonState instead: http://oregonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=182&p=8&c=1&nid=7599689

        • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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          Nice. Telly Lockette!

          Looks like he still have visits planned to Louisville (committed 1/3/2015) and Texas (offered).

        • mckalk says:
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          I haven’t done any research…is he any relation to Jarvis Redwine….another Beaver who left for Nebraska!

          • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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            Redwine was a Beav? Nebraska had some great I Backs back in the day.

          • mckalk says:
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            Yup, I believe he transferred after his freshmen year at OSU.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            Luck O the Beavs!

          • steveEbeaver says:
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            USC has the Juice (OJ) but we have the Wine (best as I remember but I did drink a lot of beer in them days)

    • Electric Eye says:
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      Goes to the same high school as Zander Bernard, Yvenson’s little brother. Chauncey Mason, Tre Mason’s little brother, also goes there. Hell of a backfield. Telly Lockette might have been recruiting these guys at USF but I haven’t checked it out.

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      Was Moevao retained? For some reason, I thought the only Riley staffer still on board was Brennan.

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    and Teddy Lockette is trying to flip one of his USF guys

    Ryan Bartow ?@RyanBartow 5m5 minutes ago Fort Lauderdale, FL

    Ex #USF, now #OregonState coach Telly Lockette offers #USF commit Khalid McGee. http://247sports.com/Bolt/Beavers-offers-USF-commit-34479608 … @_KMCGEE_ @Bulls247 @unclelukereal1

    • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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      McGee and Lockette are tight. Sounds like he’s likely to follow Teddy out west and play for us

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Man, offers are coming quickly now. I’d say Lockette is getting down to business today. Another Florida area kid

    Emmanuel Reed6? ?@EmmanReed 3m3 minutes ago

    Oregon state showing mad Love ??????

    http://t.co/4zz2SkT5Ei

    http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Emmanuel-Reed-161907

  • beavblazer beavblazer says:
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    Re: Lavan Alston

    “Oregon State was considered a frontrunner and still might be but Alston said he wants to take his trips and then figure things out over the next month or so.

    Keeeping wide receivers coach Brent Brennan on staff in Corvallis could be a big deal for Alston as he considers all his favorites.

    “I like their staff,” Alston said. “Coach (Gary) Andersen, their new OC and coach Brennan stand out. I know coach Brennan really well from when coach Riley was there so I grew close to him. They’re coming for a home visit after the dead period.

    “I like coach Brennan a lot but I’m going to the school for the school and not a specific coach. I grew a relationship with coach Brennan so it’s easier for me to listen to what he’s saying.

    “January will be key. I wanted to make a decision before the season started but things started happening so I’m going to see how it goes.””

    https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1722427&PT=4&PR=2

    • whatever says:
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      Sounds promising. He had said he was close to committing on that visit. If he likes Corvallis, this is a big get. The kid is a weapon and a really hard worker.

    • Electric Eye says:
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      That will be a big home visit. This next month is going to be loads of fun for following OSU recruiting. From just the names/bios that are thrown out there, OSU should end up with a class full of real players.

  • whatever says:
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    We may not get a single one of these kids…but damn it, we’re trying. I love that change.

  • scotty says:
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    Had to call in today and set all these beaver fans rooting for a quack natty straight. What has happened to Beaver Nation? *sigh*

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Joe Beav show? Yeah, I hit ’em with a OS?…DS!! near the end.

  • Calibeav says:
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    The Lockette hire is going to be a ridiculously good thing for us..

  • ace0099 says:
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    next on twittersphere:

    Wisconsin commit Chris Barr (CB) hearing from staff

    http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Board/23/Contents/Recruiting-Updates-7854656?Page=201#M34481712

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      sorry, I meant Utah commit

    • Electric Eye says:
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      I figured this one would be coming out sooner or later. Best friends with Jay Irvine. Barr would be a great steal.

      • angry angry says:
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        Barr is his best friend? I heard the RB, Thomas, was.

        GA might sign a top 40 class if the dominoes start falling.

  • Electric Eye says:
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    From what I’ve read, Barr and Irvine knew each other since they were 9, same schools, etc. until Irvine moved to the other side of JAX.

    Irvine is tight with Thomas for sure though.

  • angry angry says:
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    These poor bastards: http://nebraska.247sports.com/Board/142/Contents/Riley-Changing-His-Offense-34466231

    Riley changing his offense? hahaha

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Does a “wrinkle” count as a change in offense?

      • Jack says:
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        They’re going to remove the fly sweep and replace it with the reverse pitch-fumble.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      I stopped reading when overcome with laughter upon reading this comment from HuskerFitz, ” I imagine it will be something simple and effective”
      Yeah, keeping it “simple and effective” was always a Riley hallmark, poor bastards indeed!

    • Numbers says:
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      Oh those poor poor bastards. This is gonna be really tough on them.

    • steveEbeaver says:
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      For me the quote of the thread was: ” I have no worries thst Riley will go pass happy… He’s too experienced for that” Haha, poor bastards indeed.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      I almost feel bad for those sorry sons a bitches.

      I never understood this complex playbook that translated to the same four poorly executed plays time after time.

      • Nak says:
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        Agree about the massive play book resulting in a total of 4-5 plays. It’s all BS. If these inept coaches (oxymoron) were so good why didn’t we see innovation on the fields Smoke and mirrors and now they’re at a place where there’s no hiding. Poor Huskers.

    • mckalk says:
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      Good lord, that article went on and on…..the author was trying to convince himself everything was going to be alright by trying to pull every stat possible to prove Riley and staff are some kind of offensive geniuses.

    • Nak says:
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      “I trust Opie and Langsdork…” Man, the Huskers are in for a rude awakening. They have no clue as to the ahitty level of football they’re in for. Thank the gods for their AD! I wager Opue has two to three years max…

    • Jack says:
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      At least go to a good NU site. Huskermax is head and shoulders above all the others.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Don’t bother with HuskerDu though, won’t find anything football related there

        • Jack says:
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          won’t find anything related to music either….

          • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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            Zing!

          • angry angry says:
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            Husker Du were a great punk/american underground hybrid.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Bob Mould was awesome on the last Foo Fighters record.

          • Jack says:
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            I can’t see that. Mould’s voice is whiny and muddy on everything he did with Du and Sugar. Du’s first two albums were okay, but the rest were crank-fueled crap. And Hart never stopped hitting the same riff… over and over and over.

            That being said, Mould was decent on guitar. And I haven’t heard the last Foo Fighters album. So I can’t say much about it.

  • Ochocinco says:
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    Seth Collins, a duel threat QB just announced via twitter he is decomitting from SJSU.

    According to 247 sports, had offers from CU, Utah, and SJSU.

    Interesting that just about every offensive coach at Osu started following him on twitter about 3 days ago.

    • angry angry says:
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      http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2152860/highlights/195576375

      I’m not too impressed.

      Maybe as a 3rd stringer since OSU will be going through more QBs now.

      • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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        Plus maybe Del Rio and Kempt will seek a transfer. Clearly we’re recruiting QBs that can flat out run. Kempt is a statue (right?) and Del Rio can move but isn’t a runner.

      • Nak says:
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        Project but possibly some upside if he can gain some weight and get tutored by McGiven and Baldwin. Competition looks somewhat low but the kid is an athlete.

    • ace0099 says:
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      just committed to OSU

      https://twitter.com/_SethTheGreat/status/552298282274553858

      • angry angry says:
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        GA and a QB coach of the year on staff and the best is a 2-star who looks like a poor passer and only an okay runner?

        Disappointed.

        Funny his latest news reads “El Cajon (Calif.) Granite Hills quarterback Seth Collins is ready to prove his doubters wrong with a full senior season ahead of him.”

        Okay, dude, prove me wrong. by all means.

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          “offers from CU, Utah, and SJSU”, along with that twitter handle……………I’m disappointed as well.

          The difference between self confidence and cockiness isn’t easy to discern, but, “SethTheGreat”??

          • angry angry says:
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            “SethTheGreat”

            Yikes. I am going to ask him about that handle.

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Was hoping for either Jones or Baker. Hopefully theyre still in the mix. Actually think Collins could make a pretty good receiver if he has good hands. Seems to make far more plays with his feet than his arm, and that wont last long against Pac12 speed.

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        Seth will be enrolling and in school Thursday…Just fyi.

        I think he looks solid

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          ready for spring ball. nice

        • wannabeav says:
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          me too, jumping over guys, throwing on the run, quick release. I’m so used to the long wind up, slow decision making and tripping over his own feet (Mannion) that watching this kid would be fun.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        Meant Lamar Jackson, not Baker. Got my wires crossed. One thing I noticed, Jackson’s only tweet today was a sweet retweet of a tweet I sent him saying “#GoBeavs #Pac12”, which he also favorited. I feel like a giddy schoolgirl.

        http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Lamar-Jackson-142851

        • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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          Isn’t Lamar from Telly Lockette’s area of influence in Florida?

          Would be crazy to steal a commit from Louisville with offers from Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Mississippi State, South Carolina, West Virginia, Nebraska, etc…

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    Lady Beavs up 5 at the half; being tested by SC defense. On PAC12 net.
    Mandy with the “school marm” hairdo….ugh!

    • Issaquahbeav says:
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      So easy on the eyes…

    • angry angry says:
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      What is a school marm hairdo?

      • mckalk says:
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        Used to mean it was up in an old fashioned bun.

        • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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          Hot for teacher?

        • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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          Bingo, mckalk wins the prize!

          BTW, GWH probably already knows that “schoolmarm” is also a description used by loggers for a double trunked tree. Especially when the two trunks are tight together.
          And all this free of charge on AB………take that mama m!!

  • angry angry says:
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    This is what I think of Collins: Looks like Brad Smith or Vince Young did in the NFL (good runners/versatile but couldn’t pass and had bad mechanics). So in college he’s probably a Light Edition of those guys. I don’t think he’s a Keaton type…

    Also, almost every pass in his highlights is under 10 yards. Defenses will press the WRs and cut that off if the QB can’t throw a deep ball. So then he’s down to running…he looks like a good runner. Maybe mix this guy in on running downs? I like him for versatility like that. But I don’t like him as a starting Pac-12 QB.

    • youngorst says:
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      He is a 3 star on some sights and we don’t know what he will be with a year of quality coaching.

      • angry angry says:
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        Agree with all that. Just saying I was hoping for a more refined product. This is more like a Riley guy who needs a ton of coaching to become good (as a passer. He’s fine as a runner).

        McGiven is going to have to work some magic.

        • youngorst says:
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          While once AK decided to stay in Madison I am guessing the QB options were quite limited when compared to other positions.

          They might not be done if someone better shows interest but the 2016 target (David Moore) I feel pretty comfortable with getting this kid.

          I think they needed to get someone and getting an (possibly) underrated kid works for me. He had to sit out his junior year of high school which I am guessing drastically affected his star rating and college options. He may never be a starter at OSU but still seems like a good get under the recruiting circumstances of this year.

          • angry angry says:
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            Moore looks like a much much better passer. Maybe Collins will eventually be his backup as we get by with MM, Vanderveen, or Del rio for a year.

            In truth we know little about any of the QBs on the roster since Riley never got them into games. Maybe one will surprise.

        • Bill says:
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          ESPN’s assessment, low 2 star.

          Collins is a long and impressive athlete who is a legitimate threat as a runner each time he touches the ball. With further development of his raw passing skills and strength, Collins can become a dynamic mid-major quarterback.

          • Benny says:
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            I just looked him up on ESPN, it said 3*. I don’t have insider so I could not look at the scouting report but 247 has 3* also, seems solid with what is currently available for this year.

          • angry angry says:
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            That sounds pretty accurate.

          • angry angry says:
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            I’d like this guy if they use him creatively. Like put in a package for him (ala Brad Smith with the Jets). Where he can pass, run, or even catch. Use him to supplement the starting QB. Or as a 3rd stringer. But if this guy is the starter I think they’d be in trouble.

          • Bill says:
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            Based on his film, looks like a backup, Maybe could develop into a starter by his jr or sr year. Looks like his frame could handle more bulk too. That would help with arm strength. Definitely needs to put in a lot of work. Coming in early will help boost his development.

          • Numbers says:
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            I do like this guy’s potential. Seems like a real athlete. Polar opposite of Mannion. Mannion had throwing mechanics and zero athleticism. This guy has a frame to build upon. A long term project, I hope he’s up to the challenge. And I agree with angry’s concept of wanting some field ready types.

        • Mb says:
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          Mannion, like many Bay Area qbs, was fertilized and groomed with professional training long before Riley saw him. Zack Kline is another example of high school hot housing, that is, getting the bloom earlier than normal in order to make them prettier than other qbs of the same age. Angry, please do not buy the legend of Riley selecting projects and developing talent. That is what all coaches do. Riley was ok at selecting projects and then developing them. Not good or bad, just ok. Collins is way athletic with a very good ceiling, strong arm and very quick trigger.

          Quick story. Two QB kids from same town jr high went to high school. One was moved by parents to big bucks East Bay High School and became top qb recruit for defending national champ Miami. He had the best coaching in high school that money could buy and had great stats. he ended his career at Alabama. The other kid stayed local, had a good high school career, went to jc and became Aaron Rodgers.

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            He doesn’t have a strong arm. But he does have a really quick trigger, which is probably more essential for the types of passes he makes. Read to reception is critical on all those short shots. That gives the illusion of arm strength on those passes, but it isn’t really arm strength.

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          how many times have we seen supposedly inferior QB’s to what Riley had going come in and run circles around us. Like two FCS schools, for example. I think this kid has promise

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      Good coaches can fix bad mechanics as long as the kid is willing to put in the work.

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        Hes enrolling early. So putting himself in a position to begin that learning transformation.

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      If you don’t like him for a starting Pac QB, then you don’t like the read option anymore? What he’s got can roll it up these days.

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        Let’s just say he’s no Cardale Jones and move on.

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        Aren’t “good mechanics” less important in the read option? For one, it seems like the QB is threatening to run, and therefore wants to present less the appearance of passing. Secondly, everyone is so spread out, the routes appear simple, and the throws easier.

        Not saying I wouldn’t like to see improved mechanics – and I’m sure the staff will improve them – but I think there’s a tendency to imply that pro-style mechanics are the standard, when for that offense with those throws, they probably don’t need to be. Which makes it an easier offense to run, and allows for earlier player success.

        Also, in the highlights, the kid is almost always throwing on a rollout or on the move, which probably compounds his poor mechanics.

        It’s going to be interesting to see the package that Andersen and the OC put together; I’m hoping its not all read option, that there is some real run packages, even pro set, and varied pace. I hope there are drives where they say “we’re going to run the ball down your throat.” And then do it.

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    Any ideas what the hashtag #BTA means?

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      BTA refers to the coaches splitting the team up into smaller teams for the offseason. These small teams are gonna compete in academics, training, etc…during the offseason. Its a cool idea to promote some competition into the offseason program.

      Anderson also has the kids running more than Riley did.

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        Thanks

      • Numbers says:
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        Running more or in charge of more team stuffs?

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          I think he means running as in conditioning more….?

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            Right, sounds like they were up early this morning to start off season workouts and the team had to go for a 5:00AM run. I’m not sure what the running times were like with the old regime, but damn, that 5:00 start time is probably a shock to the system for some of the guys.

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      Bacon, tomato and avocado?

  • mckalk says:
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    Lady Beavs did end up winning 76-66 for a sweep in LA. I think they lost by 20 to SC on the road last year. Scott Rueck is the gold standard!

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      also lost to them in the Pac-12 tournament championship game.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Every win this season has been by double digits.
      Civil War this Friday with a chance to hear Gary Andersen before tip off.
      OREGON STATE?…………DAM STRAIGHT!!

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    Im going to really miss the water balloon fight and popsicle stories at summer camp this year….

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    Seth Collins is a great pickup. Dude has wheels and shows he can hit the 40 yard shots. I think once they saw the highlights they were hard after him, no matter the stars.

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      Yea His filmed looked good to me.. Some of those runs were jaw dropping and his ball comes out tightly wound with good velocity..

      Its head scratching his offers were so low.. Were his stats terrible or something?

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    Maybe Collins will come as a package deal with his girlfriend — a 4 star 2016 women’s bball recruit.

    http://espn.go.com/high-school/girls-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/183770/dijonai-carrington

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      Ha!

      I hope she plays at OSU too. But her brother is that #87 for the Ducks nobody bothered to cover… all… game… long. Their father was Darren Carrington of the San Diego chargers for many (four?) years. He had a couple really good seasons there.

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    Jordan Griffen has OSU offer now. Sonds about 50/50

    https://oregonstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1722532

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    Griffin has a 5.1 gpa. according to Yahoo. I only remember a 4 pt. system. Is 5.1 good?

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      In some areas, an A grade in an AP class counts for 6 points. Honors classes for 5 and all others count for 4.

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      Not just smart, but really really really smart.

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    Probably not worth putting here since he’s a 2017 kid, but Beavs have another offer out there. Apparently the kid has strong ties with Sitake. 4* Safety/Athlete Chaz Ah You

    Chaz Ah You ?@chazahyou3 29m29 minutes ago
    Excited and blessed to say that I’ve received my 6th offer from Coach Sitake and Oregon State University!

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    Collins passing stats were pretty bad hence the low offers… Maybe his receivers were terrible? For whatever reason they barely threw the ball

    12 GAMES:

    Yards: 1013
    Completion %: .473
    Yard Per Game: 84
    Yards per pass: 16.6
    TD’s: 12
    INT: 5
    QB Rating: 89.1

  • Jack says:
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    Can someone who has an ESPN handle please go tell Kevin Gemmel (and his B1G Blog) to kindly go PYHOOYA?
    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/82862/mike-riley-at-peace-with-his-departure-future

    “He admits, the block “N” looks strange on him. The man who used to tweet “It’s a great day to be a Beaver” for no other reason than he sincerely believed it was a great day to be a Beaver, now ends his tweets with #GBR — Go Big Red.”
    –Obviously Kevin did not follow Saint Mikey or OSU on Twitter.

    “Despite bringing Oregon State up to more-than-respectable levels in the increasingly-competitive Pac-12….”
    –NO! That’s a false narrative. Riley’s best years were not an increase in our respectability He took an above average team in a time when there were five or six good Pac 10 teams down into mediocrity when there were two or three good teams. Then he brought them back to above average when there was just one good team in the Pac 10. And he got all his reputation from beating that one team twice… while still not winning the Pac 10. As the Pac 10 became better and then became the Pac 12 and grows in skill and talent in both coaching and play, he has fallen off a cliff.

    Don’t give me this bullshit line Kevin. And stop shitting on OSU while writing about B1G programs and coaches. You just wrote more about Oregon State than you have in the previous four years, and it was all about Nebraska.

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      I don’t know if these people will listen. They just write off our warnings as soul grapes. It does suck that we have to listen to OSU getting dragged through the mud to justify how great Riley is though.

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        I don’t think Gemmel said anything of horror.. We were nationally perceived as a solid Pac 10/12 under Riley until the last few years.. The only thing was that was all those same national “perceptionist” though we should crave for. As Long as I don’t hear the OSU should be content with mediocrity spill I’m ok

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          It’s not that he said anything horrific. But he does add to the mediocrity and poor perception of OSU by dedicating space on a Pac 12 blog to talking about a B1G program and their coach. Why not write about the Pac 12 team instead?

          After all, it is his job. Doing otherwise makes it seem the Pac school/program eschewed by this glorious and wonderful coach isn’t as interesting as the B1G school/program. It runs along the same lines as any reporter or columnist who wrote about OSU in the past and couldn’t get through a piece without mentioning Nikegon. This one just does so with every sentence.

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            He also creates the narrative that OSU was nothing before Riley got here and became something great… by fudging reality. Riley did come close. But he failed years ago. And he tried to overcome his failure by missing on a last gasp in 2012 but tripping over his own faults again.

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    Does this worry anyone else?

    “Some of it will be based on need. For instance, Andersen said his goal is to carry 16 scholarship offensive linemen.

    “‘Right now, we’re sitting at 20 (returning players and verbal commits),’ he said. ‘So we have to make some decisions.'”

    http://pamplinmediagroup.com/pt/12-sports/245932-113915-beavers-andersen-crows-about-his-staff-coordinators?utm_source=New+Media&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PortlandTribune+%28Portland+Tribune%29

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      Considering the injury history of the current group, the more the merrier.

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        Am I misreading this, because it sounds like he’s saying he wants to carry ONLY 16 o-linemen, and he currently has 20. Which would necessitate some cuts.

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          With the past regime, that 20 would have been 13 with four of them red-shirting pretty quickly.

          16 is a good number for his system. 21 would be a good number for Riley’s system. This accounts for stages of development and attrition (immediate or eventual) within both systems. A more pressing need will now be real DT and OLB (whatwould have been DEs and MLBs under Banker) types. And I’m not talking Paea types who are/were our DTs of the past. He would be a strong side DE in the new system. Castro would have been the DT type. But we’re now looking at him as the type who would fill out the depth chart and going after kids who are more athletic with the same size. There will be a lot less three year developments of 250# kids into 320# space-eaters. There will now be short developments of near-300# kids into athletic 320# muckers. And MLBs in the old system will now be our OLBs and play as the fourth DE in the C gaps or roaming the flats in coverage.

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            What are the odds some of those O-line commits flip to the D side of the ball?

            None of the current commits jump out as likely switches.

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            Where would Pankey fit in the new scheme LOL?

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            Being able to fall on the ground and act like you are doing something on a play is no longer a viable art form because all of the damn high definition game film. Alas, Pankey is a true dinosaur now.

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            hence the term “flailbacker”

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          16 on scholarship. They’ve got at least 5-6 walk-on OL right now. Andersen just doesn’t want 20 on scholarship.

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            some of Riley’s walk ons can walk right out the door imo

    • angry angry says:
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      Funny because Brent (and Bray) were the only coaches I liked on the old staff. Figures Riley would leave behind one of the best.

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      It doesn’t worry me. I’ll let the coach build his program the way he sees fit and reserve criticism until after I see the product for a couple of years. I did like reading this though:

      “Andersen, a Salt Lake City native with deep roots to the Utah program, said he does not have an out clause in his Oregon State contract in case the Utes’ head job comes open. He reiterated that he is committed to building the Beavers’ program.”

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        He pretty much said that when he got here. The only school I would worry about stealing him would be Utah State if they ever joined a Power 5 conference. Then he would get the same level of competition, the same college town feel and get to be near what was once home. From what I understand, he and his wife were not comfortable being celebrities in a town the size of Madison. They like the laid back atmosphere a town like Logan or Corvallis provides. SLC would be a stressor for them.

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      Eggers delivers big time content once again. Guy is great reporter and runs circles around the likes of Goe/Schnell/Buker/Canzano. (Gina has potential; she’s young) Two lines jumped out at me: (1) “We can contend for a pac 12 title here.” Last time we heard that Dennis Ericksen was coach. Riley never said it. (2) he likes the challenge of taking the program to the next level. Flip side of coin #1 but it’s music to my ears.

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        Damn straight! Riley couldnt say it because then the excuses/coach-speak on mediocre seasons wouldnt have flown like it did for so long.

        What I cant understand is some folks actually worrying about a coach coming here and jumping after some success. GO FOR IT! ….WAY better than a guy who just cruises. Give us a conference title and god bless you then jumping for where the hell…

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    http://instagram.com/p/xdI-zspclr/ from Eric Moreland – dunno if the tweets accompany this, but I think it’s quite a saga.

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    Might as well get schmoozed on OSU’s dime….

    Matthew Piper ?@matthew_piper 16m16 minutes ago
    Sitake recruit Taylor Thomas (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsutahsports/58301911-59/thomas-utah-com-twitter.html.csp …) says he’s 100% committed to Utah but will take a visit to OSU he’d already scheduled.

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      Hey, Riley was 100% committed to Oregon State. Go for it!

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    My rant about the duck uniforms:

    I don’t understand the uniforms. Probably their best opportunity in forever to promote the school and represent all the athletes, past and present that hold the University of Oregon dear…and they choose NOT to represent their colors in any way. Its an odd choice that goes well beyond just some kind of fashion statement.

    Football is often compared to war. The references are commonplace. In war one of the things you do is proudly display your colors. Its why the first thing any fighting force does is raise a flag over the conquered ground. That’s how you get scenes like the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima and why songs like our national anthem are about the very colors that represent our great nation.

    Throughout time, color is associated with identity. Coats of arms, uniform colors to denote different branches of one military force or even which side you were on (the Blue and the Gray), hell even the colors of the light saber blades in Star Wars, tell you who you are dealing with. The complete lack of color in the duck uniforms tells me that this team sees themselves as having no identity, no allegiance… no honor.

    As a Beaver I love the black and orange. It represents me as a fan. When I say, “I bleed orange”, it isn’t a joke to me. If OSU ever pulled this kind of uniform stunt out for ANY game, much less the national championship game, Beaver fans would revolt! The fact that you don’t hear much complaint from duck fans tells me everything I already knew about most of their fans…they aren’t REAL FANS. They are just bandwagon fans. They have little ties to the university or its athletics, they simply want to back a winner, and lets face it, the ducks have bought a winning team, so who can blame them?

    Someone suggested to me that maybe they want to be seen as “White Knights”. I think what they’ve accomplished is showing the whole world they are indeed the “Phil Knights”. I suppose THAT is the identity they deserve anyway.

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      Nike is smarter than you give them credit for. Here you had a big rant about their jerseys. But, if they went old school would it get the same publicity? Even bad press is good press when making a name. That was more about uck uniforms now than i care to discuss.

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        Nope… bad press is bad… unless you think Nike is so cynical they think the American public is just that stupid that they clamor to buy crap products (and they are crap… at least that’s a truism) scratched together by child and slave labor.

        Heh heh… diamond colored.

        Apparently they think America is just the stupidest place on earth.

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      Symbolically, they’re representing NIke, not UO.

      That team is owned, plain and simple, and leveraging the Nike brand allows them to “cross over” marketing and uncritical people who think Nike is cool often think the Ducks are cool too.

      At least Helfrich and Mariota seem like decent people, very different than the lying Chip Kelly and punks Cliff Harris and Masoli.

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    What uniforms do you speak of?

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    interesting story on Grantland ranking the recent spate of college football head coaching hires. Harbaugh to Michigan was rated #1 of 14; GA to OSU 5th; Riley was near the bottom, citing that he the fact he is not an innovator or very energetic when it comes to recruiting–classic Angrybeav critique. Riley was termed a “low ceiling hire.” spot on.

    • bendbeaver bendbeaver says:
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      Sounds like AB providing free research again.

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      They also rated Leipold as very low, so take that as you will.

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        Why would anyone take any of them as anything important?

        They’re wholly irrational and a waste of time. The models necessary to evaluate and predict future success for 10+ programs are just dumb. I can say that because I know they are non-existent.

        Give me time and no more access to teams than I have now… and I will better prognosticate than the very people who are “experts” in the “field.”

        This is why I love Bartoo and KenPom… although… Bartoo and his Riley+ rating always confused me. If we have the 40th best class… and we end up in 40th in the rankings… and our coach does more with less… um… yup… what?

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    I get harbaugh but i can’t think of any better hires thanGA. He was a homerun for us especially with the staff in place. Do u remember who else was ahead of him.

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    Solid ranking of the Coaching hires in addition to Grantland:

    http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/grading-college-footballs-new-coaching-hires

    Gary Andersen (Oregon State): A-

    Nebraska’s “whisking” of Mike Riley away from Corvallis and the Beavers’ heist-like hire of Wisconsin’s Andersen created for some of the highest drama of the 2014 coaching carousel, if you can call it that. But no doubt Oregon State came out a resounding winner on the other side.

    After turning around Utah State and winning 19 games in two seasons in Madison, Andersen proved that it doesn’t much matter where he coaches — his team will produce. He’ll have to compete hard with Oregon for recruits, but years as an assistant out West should help. This was a stagnant, if declining program under Riley and his decision to bolt was probably the best possible outcome for Oregon State.

    The only concern with Andersen is whether he will bolt Corvallis the first chance he gets.

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      An actual realistic assessment of the hires.

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        The picture of Riley is sad. it looks like he is thinking WTH am I doing here?

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          That’s what happens when you mail it in. You end up stuck in Nebraska. Let that be a lesson to everyone!

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            LoL the look on his face is like he is looking into that right corner of the end zone and thinking where the heck is Terry Bakers Heisman jersey??!!

          • Jack says:
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            Hey! I like Nebraska!!!

            It’s my second favorite part of South Dakota.

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            South Dakota. Yes! We are a state

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          That suit jacket he’s wearing looks about 4 sizes too big…..he’s shriveling up before our eyes!

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          I know he’s coached in the NFL, but I really don’t think he’s ready – or geared for – the pressure he’ll face in Lincoln…he’s been coasting too long.

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            I agree and I think he knows it.

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            Well, he was obviously under pressure to do better and maybe for some time. So he either has to recreate his early OSU success or it gets worse … alums getting up money for his early “retirement”, etc..

            And suddenly comes Nebraska looking for expertise but mainly, immediately, Mr coaching mildtoast … manna from heaven!…. and so he jumps at it. Still, hard to see him bailing on OSU — bang — there goes the legacy… And now he has to produce at a higher level than he would have had to here. He’s gotta have doubts…

            But at least he has yet another shot at coaching success. He probably thought, darn, heck, gosh….. lets roll the dice again…

            Seems to me our just-done coaching swap is a damn miracle…

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            Being paid almost twice as much doesn’t hurt either.

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            That is the definition of a neat deal.

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    2015 Running back who appears to be on the Beavs radar. Unfortunately his HUDL link is set to private. Short and fast.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/byu/football/recruiting/player-Charles-West-150165

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    So I was checking out the links in the beaver section on boregonelive and as usual there’s the normal Goe bullshit and linked duck articles. What the ducks are wearing in the natty. Who’s predicting who will win. Several duck articles linked in the beaver section. Just out of morbid curiosity I clicked on ducks to see if there were any links to articles about the beavers. Guess how many? It’s the same number they have on their helmets. Why is that?

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      not surprised. I’ll never click on Goe again. I’m not going to reward him with my time and attention and I hope that most of us here will maintain the AB boycott and in time relegate him to an outright Duck columnist so we can demolish the pretense that he covers all of college football in the state of Oregon.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I don’t think it’s a Goe thing. It’s an oregonlive thing. Why is it when I click on the beavers section I get duck articles too. But not vice versa. It’s an honest question I’d like an answer to. anyone got Gina’s email?

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          I think it’s a O-Live covers Oregon more since there’s more demand for Oregon news thing.

          Also there’s more supply of Oregon news at the moment anyway.

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            It’s always been that way on the beaver sports page. But when you click on the duck sports page, nothing beaver related is to be found.

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            I had to go back about a week to see a Beaver headline in the Oregon section.

            It’s because Tokito/Goe/etc. just haven’t been writing their main stories about OSU since after hiring GA.

            Their pieces show up on the Beavers section since there are still notes/links about the Beavers at the bottom.

            Probably more of an Oregonian policy to have those types of posts with some kind of main story on top and an aggregate of links to Beavers/Blazers/Ducks/etc news at the bottom.

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        Booo. Stay steadfast in the boycot. I am. We dont need that crap. Goe is uck through and through.

        • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          my point being if I go to the beaver sports page I expect to see OSU related content. Not ducks. If I wanted to read about the ducks, I’d go to the duck sports page. But since there’s zero OSU content on the duck sports page it just appears to me that it’s being thrown in our faces. So fuck you Goe and the boregonian. Your paper and articles aren’t good enough to even line the cat shit gravel box with

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      I found Gina’s email address and asked her specifically. I’ll let you know if I get a response

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    Anybody know the status of supposed greyshirt Harris Ross? Eggers said he is not with the team. He can’t decommit at this point, can he?

    • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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      Think hes academically ineligible

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        What’s with all these academic issues? Not to put down our school, but it’s Oregon freaking State, not MIT. gg

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          It’s the Riley special. He and his coaches couldn’t recruit worth shit, so they took chances on kids who had some talent but wouldn’t get in to any school on the first go round.

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            Exactly. Over and over like ground hog day.

          • rsteve503 rsteve503 says:
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            Yep…. the dregs of a recruiting class and easy to look good on paper…. But even Riley knew it was just window dressing for their lazy recruiting.

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            Well, that’s not to say every one of the kids who did or didn’t get in didn’t deserve it. Some may have, as our new coach said, had family issues in the 9th or 10th grades which killed their grades. Blah blah blah. I know a man who dropped out of school in the sixth grade, worked full time to support his two siblings until he was old enough to become their legal guardians, then went on to get a HSEQ and an AD from a CC. Then he simply cruised through PSU in one year.

            Now he loves life. And his family are good peeps.

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            His family is little, yellow, marschmallow chickens?

          • mckalk says:
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            They taste better when they are allowed to age, I don’t like them soft…right out of the box.

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            On deployment, they were used to gamble since they seemed to hold their own for a while… and they were mysteriously one of the only things available overseas that reminded anyone of home… and different colors could denote different amounts.

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            Maybe it’s the same everywhere, but I always thought that Riley was exceptionally vague when commenting on these kid’s academic struggles when some of them did finally make it on campus……Peko and his endless class, huh? Maybe if he gave too much detail, it would expose him and his staff as fools for wasting time to begin with on some of these hard cases.

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            Alexander (at that time Welch) was one. I’m wondering if Garret Owens was one. The two DTs in the 2010 class that never made it… some guy named Kuli… Gelakoska, who Riley signed instead of some short kid named Kellen Moore… the list goes on and on.

            Angry said it once before long ago. When Gilstrap died we lost the one coach who was amazing at finding those good and great players under those rocks everyone thinks Riley looks under. And I’m willing to bet Chryst was able to evaluate skill a little better than anyone we’ve had since 2005 as well. There’s a reason we had good years from 2006 to 2009. There’s a very simple reason we fell off a cliff after that.

  • Mb says:
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    Collins is much closer to a young Kaepernick than Vince Young or others mentioned. The video is a knock off of Kaepernick as a freshman and sophomore at Nevada.

  • Mb says:
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    What happened to Bre Brown? I have not seen her name in box scores this year.

  • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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    This is James and Jacquizz Rodgers’s half brother. Guess he isn’t being recruited by anyone though.

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2269425/highlights/184329379

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      I have no idea what level Terry High School is playing at but that kid looks like a college athlete on that film. Maybe not PAC quality but somewhere you’d think.

      OSU should use the family connection to bring him in as a priority walk on if no one is offering a scholarship, got some speed and good moves.

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      Gotta give a Roger bro a scholly. Respect.

  • Mb says:
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    Alex Kalmbach was in the box score briefly for OSU Last night 0-1 shooting, and then the name vanished. Did she play?

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    watching New Mexico/San Diego St on CBS sports and with 2-1/2 minutes left in the first half, SDSU leads 19-12. What has happened to the Aztecs? I thought they were pretty good again this year. I haven’t followed them since they lost to Arizona by 2 in Maui

  • angry angry says:
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    This is pretty good (totally unbeav related)

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/edwest/2014/05/political-correctness-gone-mad-and-madder-and-even-madder/

    • Jack says:
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      That’s a rather astute over-generalization for a “conservative.”

      The thing is, he’s wrong… by about 10 degrees. He’s still holding on to the idea that PC is an actual thing. It’s not. There’s right. There’s wrong.

      If you’re argument against someone else’s statement is, “You just hate white people,” then you have a major flaw in your logic.

      Yes, there are some who profit from such cynicism. And yes, some of them are so good at it that they might even live this extreme. But I tend to view everyone as a comedian first. Then I work my way out from there.

      But “PC” is something utilized by everyone. You don’t like that I call you an ass? Why not? That’s just my opinion, and I have freedom of speech enough that I can spend my time saying so. You might contend. I call your contention “PC.”

      See how I did that? What if I speak out against guns? BOOM! PC banhammers are headed my way. But they’re from the “conservative” side. So they aren’t “PC?”

      Oh! I get it. “PC” is just another right wing catch phrase brought about because they have a ton of a shotload of money and can afford to pay for gobs of focus groups in order to find words and phrases which might make you think other people hate you… all the while stealing your dignity.

      Gwangi is a cow whose udder it is fun to twist.

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        *yer

      • Jack says:
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        Btw… why would anyone leave LZ and move on to the others? Sabbath had some good stuff, and Blackmore was awesome. Metallica was good until that crap black album. I don’t know why Slayer is mentioned in the same breath as Metallica, let alone the other two. Anthrax was a ton better and didn’t have the same shit lyrics.

        Oh… sorry. Am I being PC?

        I’m well educated. But I’m not, “young, probably attractive, and possessing social nous….” That last is an awesome term, btw. What I am is blunt and unyielding… and sometimes right. And if I’m not right, then once in a while I yield.

        But, “Nuh-uh… you’re just jealous,” is the argument of an invalid… or a Duck. But I repeat myself.The point is that there is no argument for wrong other than fallacy. If that’s what you want, you are free to do so at your leisure. By all means, don’t let someone guilt you into doing something.

        But please, please, please… don’t let them guilt you into thinking they don’t do the fucking same thing to you about everything in the other side of the spectrum… and that you are not a tool.

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          Very simple example:
          War on Christmas

        • Jack says:
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          Ooh! More complex…

          If you watched Frontline on the NRA, you saw Wayne LaPierre give his Sandy Hook speech. What nobody knows is that the guy who got up with the lame sign and was walked off by security while LaPierre shook his head as if “the opposition” is just a bunch of loons… that guy is a card-carrying NRA member. It’s not clear if he was or was not paid for the faux protest, so I can’t definitively say anything there. But you can check his work history pretty easily.

          Yes… you might be a tool. I might be highly cynical. But I also do my homework. Do you?

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            This is why I push to take words away from those who control the narrative. They can’t own them anymore. They didn’t earn them in the first place. There are some of us out here who resisted that precise word for so long that we can now lay claim to whatever word they throw at us, or you… or them… or someone.

            If white men are resistant to social empathy, then white men are what is precisely meant when white men call women “cunts.”

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            Oh… I can go on.

            But I will not be PC.

            And you knew this.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            talking to yourself again?

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            The shooting at Sandy Hook never happened. Ask Colt Lyerla

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            Tempted to respond to Jack but I think he has about a dozen responses already from himself. I’d just get buried 20 pages down

          • WFO WFO says:
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            It’s Bush’s fault and you’re a racist.

          • Jack says:
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            Did I say that? If I ever did it’s because it should be a wake-up call. And it’s the ridiculous answer to the ridiculous. So if you ever hear that, you should be wondering what is is that you said or did that might be ridiculous enough to hear that as a counter-argument.

            And it’s not just idiot boy’s fault. Clinton signed a ton of legislation when he was a lame duck that aided the downfall of our financial world. Idiot boy just took it all to the extreme… and needlessly killed some of my friends… so his friends could get rich.

          • Jack says:
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            And if you everhad any question whether or not idiot boy is a liar and a cynic, you need lok no further than his actions… and how he parties on the corpses of our dead.
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3570845.stm

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            I have zero clue as to why any service member or vet would think idiot boy is a “real president,” or why the same people think Obama isn’t exactly the same. WHy would one president be considered “not real” when he does pretty much the same crap that idiot boy did… only with intelligence and reverence… false or misled, all of it?

            Hmmm… what could be different about the “not real” guy?

            Hmmm….

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            Try arguing something you think I would say. I have a dozen responses to counter those as well.

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            boogity boogity boo!

            REFUTE THAT

          • Jack says:
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            Contrary to public opinion, this is not Richard Masur’s greatest acting line.

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          Plant was always too self indulgent for me. I get that excess was part of the style, but even so…

          I don’t listen to LZ but appreciate the fact that they – among others – appreciated the blues in more than many Americans did, and did something to raise consciousness of such the blues music form. It was a shame that many great American bluesmen had to go overseas to find broader appreciation, but great that they came back and found others arriving late to the party and ready to listen.

          My favorite blues artist was and is John Lee Hooker, and he was fantastic live and he was very gracious afterwards, shaking hands, signing authographs. Also saw a great show from Hubert Sumlin and he approached me after and talked to me, which was pretty awesome.

          • Jack says:
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            In his defense, Plant was the front man for a popular rock band, making him something of a rock star.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Black Sabbath has chunks of Led Zeppelin in their shit .

          • ObjCritic says:
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            Love the understatements….

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            Every band/musician you guys are talking about is awesome for different reasons.

            I’d probably put Mississippi John Hurt in the #1 blues musician spot, fwiw, even if it’s more of a folk/blues. That guy is enchanting.

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    Found this gem on the blitz forums. Fuck this guy.

    I know we have a lot of new folks, so let’s get this much straight…ReplyIf it wasn’t obvious, posting content from the Lodge and/or Blitz subscription content on other sites will get you blacklisted from reading the Lodge and reading subscription content.Some of you doing so aren’t even smart enough to use different user ID’s…  We’ll always have the cheesy weasels that steal content and pass it off as “I’m hearing…” (and then even dumber people eat it up believing that person has sources, but the reality is that all they know is what they get from reading/stealing from Blitz).But some of you are shockingly stupid. If it’s an “innocent mistake” and you had no concept of respecting intellectual property… eh, ok. But, it seems some of you are just a-holes that dwell in the lowest realms of the internet think that you got a free trial, and that means you can roll in for free, and just post all that you read here on other sites and act like “oooh, lookey, I have this to share with you my fellow know-nothing troglodytes”.And, again… wow, some of you are stunningly stupid in terms of how easy it is to track you.My advice, when you find your account blacklisted, don’t send Angie an e-mail asking what happened.  If you’ve been posting content from the Lodge and/or subscription articles on other sites, you’ll know why you were banned.

    • progressivebeav progressivebeav says:
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      Grandpa is mad he paid for easily available information! This is just stage 2 of grief over a blitz subscription.

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      Blitz was way behind on Seth Collins. They don’t “break” much news over there that can’t be found elsewhere for free.

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        No kidding. I was talking about Collins on Angrybeavs Monday morning after I noticed a bunch of our coaches started following him. Then later that morning, a blitz poster said “Just noticed this name pop up on twitter”
        Is that considered proprietary info to Blitz users?

    • angry angry says:
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      A dinosaur of a business model, no sources now that Riley’s gone, twitter breaking news before them, etc has lead to full blown nuclear explosion. From the looks of things, that place is on its last legs. I mean who in their right mind would give a site with that mentality a cent?

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      I just can’t give two shits about this stuff….either a kid signs with Oregon St or he doesn’t. Their names are going to be public knowledge soon enough, it’s not like some ancient secret that will only be revealed by an oracle. It’s f-ing football!

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      Not my problem… never has been… never will be.

      I won’t even go there for free. That’s how valuable I think their “service” is.

      • angry angry says:
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        It looks like your favorite guy, jpthebeaver, wrote that.

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          friggin creep!

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            That ass hat can go fuck himself. I’m tempted to go get a free trial at Blitz and copy and paste their crap all over the place just to defy him and his hypocritical life alone.

            Alas, that sentence is more effort than he deserves.

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            Ha, obviously I’ve missed out on the history between Jack and Jp. Anybody care to share?

          • angry angry says:
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            Jack thinks he’s a stalker.

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            Thinks?

            Dood is the reason I have a gravatar.

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            That would be fucking awesome.

    • angry angry says:
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      We should start an “open source” recruiting section of this site, where those who read twitter et al can post live updates in real time for free. I’m busy right now, but once this passes I’ll look into it if people are interested and we have enough users here to “break news” from twitter as it happens. I don’t use twitter enough to do that.

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      I’m no lawyer, but wouldn’t “intellectual property” imply that someone there (at Blitz) created something, original? What exactly is that? Repeating rumors? I guess, if the words were taken verbatim. But considering a lot/most of the information there is taken from the interwebs, wouldn’t that make mama the thief?

      And even if the reference were to things she heard second hand at Winco, so what. I don’t know that there is anything proprietary.

      At least she has an interweb tough guy to stand up for her. Not sure being banned is all that severe a penalty though.

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        But you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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    OSU “respect the process” taking a bit of an internet beating:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/RespectTheProcess?src=hash

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      Even made the desert news

      http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865619081/Morning-links-Oregon-State-steals-a-Ute-slogan-OJs-stolen-Heisman-is-found-and-Jameis-Winston.html?pg=all

      Funny thing is, that slogan has been around for years. It’s not like Whittingham coined it. Copper Hills high school football in Utah uses it too

      “CHHS Football
      @grizz_football
      Official Twitter Page for Copper Hills Football. Go 1-0 Today! Respect The Process. Relish The Grind. Do Your Job. #NZone #soundslikeboom #tempo”

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        That being said, it seems like we should have been able to come up with something that wasn’t a straight rip from the state of Utah again. #OSUtah

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        Jack is hungover from all the back and forth last night. I detect that “desert news” should be “Deseret News”. Don’t worry Jack will shake off the cobwebs and begin correcting all of you soon.

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        Not sure when Utah started using that slogan, but GA used it for his 2009 Utah State team, and it followed him to Wisconsin. This isn’t new

        http://www.usu.edu/ust/pdf/2009/april/itn041409113.pdf

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          Yup…
          https://twitter.com/znyborg/status/552886399083376642

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            I did see a few of the Utah players from the 2008 team said “respect the process” when talking about their bowl game with Alabama, but one of their coaches was GA at the time, so he may have started using it while at Utah. Either way, Whittingham didn’t start slapping that logan on Utah’s practice facility until after Utah State started using it.

          • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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            We should go with “Respect the Beaver.”

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            Love that idea. I’ll suggest it

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            I expect to get introduced at halftime of a game, have BDC shake my hand and give me a plaque or something for making this game changing contribution to OSU foooootball.

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          Who cares what slogan they use as long as the team responds to it and it ‘fits OSU players and staff’. I’m all for this slogan and whatever else the team buys into because that will mean the players are on board 100% with what GA and staff come up with in this process of transitioning. That’s what I think really stems with this slogan. Football is a process; from the time you get up to the time you go to bed. What do you do to make your day a success? You process it and go and when you respect the process, say work, then it becomes a part of you. It all starts with respect.

    • Jack says:
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      I’ve not heard “respect the process” yet. I really don’t care either. It sounds like just another generic team-building phrase coined by some life coach selling a book.

      Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go water the bamboo.

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        It doesn’t really get the blood flowing. It sounds like something you hear in the office when people start getting impatient.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I know many here aren’t reading OLive anymore, but I still check Gina Mizell’s page. She has a brief breakdown of Andersen’s staff and plans to write more in-depth profiles on each assistant coach later this week.

  • Calibeav says:
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    I think Gina just does what Machado does.. Machado broke down the coaches and their fit on Monday. Gina does the same Wednesday.. rinse repeat

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Not really news, but the school announced 3 players added to the roster today. Xavier Crawford, Ricky Liuchan, Zach Standish (Kicker I had not heard anything of before today)

    http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209838219

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Great to see Liuchan stuck around and got it done to qualify. Looking forward to he and Willis hopefully being on the field together.

      • Electric Eye says:
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        I’m really fired up about Liuchan. Tremendous football player. In fact, with Liuchan and Crawford, you’re getting two kids that count against last year’s class that can play the game at the highest level. Go find Crawfords Hudl film. It’s fucking ridiculous.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    Name to watch: Ronnie Hoggins. 3* Defensive back. Another Florida kid with a ton of offers. Was recruited by Wisconsin. This staff seems to be going hard after DB’s this year which is understandable after Nelson’s departure and the lack of talent at that position on the current roster.

    Oh yeah, and if you hear about this kid on Blitz later today, you will know who their “sources” are.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/lsu/football/recruiting/player-Ronnie-Hoggins-149993

    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1355434/ronnie-hoggins

    • Jack says:
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      Guinta’s twitter feed?

      • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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        yep, his recent follow list has been a pretty good indication of moves before they’ve become public. Collins and Matagi were the previous ones.

  • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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    I believe electric eye called this a few days ago

    Tuli Wily-Matagi @TuliWM10 · 17m 17 minutes ago
    I’ve decided to flip my commitment over to Oregon State, want to thank everyone who supported me through this decision. #GoBeavs

    • beavers4life says:
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      5 years to play 4…meaning they can redshirt if they want.

      http://www.osubeavers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30800&ATCLID=209838219

    • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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      LB?

    • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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      Lots of “low hanging fruit” so far, right?

      • angry angry says:
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        He had a bunch of pac-12 offers…they might have the 2-star thing wrong. I haven’t watched film

        • GOBeavers GOBeavers says:
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          Colorado, WSU, and Utah in addition to Utah State. Not the top of the Pac-12.

          The other two guys only had offers from much smaller schools though.

        • Electric Eye says:
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          He can run. He’s big and athletic. I trust my eyes when watching film. Some of those recruiting services are way off on kids. The obvious 5-stars are so easy to rate that anybody could do it. Where it gets less clear between the 2, 3, 4 star guys is where the services have major problems.

          For instance- on film, Matagi, to my eyes, has more upside at TE than Matt Snyder. Snyder is very good, but he’s also been fully physically developed since a junior in high school. Matagi runs better, has better hips and balance. List goes on.

          • angry angry says:
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            What stands out to me is he seems to have raw strength. At TE, I can see him breaking a lot of tackles, carrying the pile, and even throwing a pass off a screen/trick play. Since he played QB, he probably has intelligence and/or an instinct for the game. Snyder had better speed and looked to have great hands…definitely a move refined TE. I’d honestly rather have both,and Snyder was a loss, but this guy looks legit and is a 3-star in my book.

          • orangejulius orangejulius says:
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            From Matagi’s twitter…Khalil Mack was a 2* out of high school. Sure enough, he was.

            It does speak to the difficulty in being truly spot on with assessing these kids.

            So many variables to consider, you have to wonder if the people making the ratings have actually spent time watching film on every one of these high schoolers.

  • Calibeav says:
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    Yea This guy had Utah Wazzu and Colorado as well as Wisconsin interested.. Played QB in High School. So the film out is of him being a freak 6.2 230 LB QB throwing the ball all over the yard and running dudes the hell ova.

    He’s definitely a D1 athlete. Hes Apparently a TE for now.. to me this guy screams either end or backer depending on his speed tho.. This guy looks a lot like Ryan Nall just not as fast

    • Electric Eye says:
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      That’s a great description. Versatile guy. Hell, some of the Poly kids get BIG. He could end up a DT in 2 years!

  • Calibeav says:
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    http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2962355/tuli-wily-matagi

    • angry angry says:
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      He looks good. Not as a QB, but I could see that guy being a good TE or LB. Maybe even a FB.

      I say put him at TE. Gives the offense versatility to have a TE who can throw.

      • Electric Eye says:
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        That’s one thing that stood out for me on his film about his passing. Great touch on the deep ball. Hit guys in perfect stride more often than not.

        • Beavblazer Beavblazer says:
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          Do we have some halfback option in our future? That’s a wrinkle I’d like to see. Haven’t watched his tape but sounds like he’s too big for that position

  • Calibeav says:
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    He Looks more like 6’4 – 6’5 to me… A few sites have him at 6’4 so he’s likely to tall to be a backer or HB/FB

  • Beavergopher Beavergopher says:
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    We though the Beavs had a shitty running game? We got nut’in on the Gators.
    Florida running back poops his pants after touchdown | Thompson …
    http://www.kfiam640.com/…/florida-running-back-poops-his-pants-13118103/
    2 days ago – Florida Gators running back Adam Lane, Jr. apparently pooped his pants after scoring a touchdown in Saturday’s Birmingham Bowl. He was …

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