14.Mar.2017 General Thread

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Not much to criticize at this point. A few topics to stir conversation:

  • How far do you think the lady beavs will go in the Tourney?
  • Is the baseball team legit, the competition weak, or a combination? Is Jake Thompson for real (no) or is this another head fake (yes).
  • What are you looking for in the spring game? I’m looking for improve WR play, would like to hear the OL looks serviceable, and of course which QB performs best.
  • Any word on this new AD and what, if anything, he’s doing? For those of you on campus, is it a smooth transition?
  • Etc, anything you wish.

Go Beavs.

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  • Micah says:
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    Wooohooo first comment umm so lady beavs should make final 4. The baseball team is very good I honestly think they can make it to the end this year. I’m looking for improved overall passing play consistent quarterbacks, and great secondary play and good blocking. Seems to be a smooth transition most people really respect him.

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      If the Lady Beavs make the final 4, it will likely mean they put a hurtin on the Lady Cocks in the elite 8

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        That may be an appropriate name for the other USC. Lady Beavs should be doing their Kegel’s.
        The team is always a bad shooting game away from Syd from losing. Hope they can make a run.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        That game will be blacked out.

    • angry angry says:
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      I’m going with Sweet 16.

      • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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        I’ll say sweet 16 also, as gopher pointed out though, this team has been one poor shooting game by Syd away from defeat all year. Be nice to see Marie and Kolbie take just a bit of the attention off of Her.
        Wonder if Rueck is more likely than before to leave Pivec in even with two fouls early, she and the returning McWilliams could also lighten the load for Syd.
        Anything could happen in a “one and done” scenario.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Eggers on Barnes. He”s been listening……A pic for Angry to throw a punch at included:

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/349745-225998-getting-the-lay-of-beavers-land

    • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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      Funny, i saw that pic yesterday and had the same thought.

      Also, it sounds like they’ve selected that fan board. At least, I saw that one of the former Beaver Dam leaders, Jeff Lulay, is on it. I guess thats a good thing since the beaver dam represented well at games when he was leading them……..but never teally cared for his game show personna

    • helmsley says:
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      Certainly the “four major sports” are the profiles, and I like the sound of Barnes listening and evaluating. Eventually, I hope he can facilitate elevating OSU sports across the board.

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      Really? That’s the headline they chose?

    • Jack Jack says:
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      He’s not afraid to accompany our development staff to important meetings with donors to talk about the Valley Football Center and why it’s so important that we get the fundraising completed so we can get on to the next thing.

      Ummm… isn’t that one of the major parts of an athletic director’s job? Statements like this lead me to wonder what previous ADs did.

    • FatDogT says:
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      OMG That is a punchable face.

  • ean says:
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    At least Oregon State is on the other side of the bracket from UConn

    • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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      That was more important than seed. We needed three things:

      1. Not be in the same region as UCONN
      2. Not be on the same side as UCONN
      3. UCONN to sit this one out

      Two out of three isn’t bad.

      GWH

  • Sparkd73 says:
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    I think the Lady Beavs got a favorable road to the final 4. Still hard to make it, but I don’t see any games where we should not be favored.

  • wannabeav says:
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    The Sweet 16 seems a given, but getting to the final 4 looks like steeper climb than last year.

    I can attest that there is a strong outreach to donors going on; finishing the Valley Center and the Goss expansion are the top priorities. A more assertive “ask” than heretofore, which is probably Barnes’s doing.

    Rescheduling the Colorado State game was a mistake in my view. The kind of thing DeCarolis would have done. Yes, it might be more visible on TV, and the team can lengthen the practice season by a week, and the extra bye is good too, but the ultimate goals is wins and now they will be starting out against higher caliber competition in the first game, and in a sold-out new stadium besides, and probably thereby doubled the degree of difficulty of coming out of Fort Collins with a W.

    • WFO WFO says:
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      How good has CSU been recently? I haven’t followed them at all.

      • Beav in DE says:
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        Last year they were a mediocre MWC team. If we really see ourselves as a mediocre Pac-12 team, we shouldn’t be worried about them.

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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          My Gophers played them last year. The kid listed as the starter at QB last year had actually been beaten out and replaced with a freshman who looked pretty good against the Golden Rodents. I believe the freshman got hurt later in the year. First year coach last year. The Rams were not as good as the previous year, when they had a formidable team. They will be be a legitimate challenge out of the gate.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        Here’s their Senior QB 2016 stats…

        http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/nick_stevens_849831.html

        Roster:

        http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/csu-m-footbl-mtt.html

        Team stats:

        http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2016-2017/teamcume.html#TEAM.TEM

        Are they still running Baldwin’s offense there? That could be interesting to see.

        • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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          We SHOULD beat them, but you never know in a game 1.
          Senior QB. Team opening their brand new stadium on national tv. High altitude. All stuff we should expect our team to be able to overcome, but game 1 seems to always be a crap shoot.

          • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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            I agree OSU should beat them but this is one of those trap games against a decent mid major opponent. As for the altitude most of the team and coaching staff should be aware as they played in Boulder last season (and poorly, worst performance of the season). Maybe leave a day early to get acclimated? Might be a good question for someone to ask GA on a call in radio show.

          • beavers4life beavers4life says:
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            Since school wouldn’t be starting that week, is it possible for the Beavs to fly to CSU a week early to start practicing that Monday at a local university or high school or something to get acclimated to the altitude since it was clearly an issue last year?

    • JockItch JockItch says:
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      I agree….I hope the Beavs don’t come out in typical fashion by coming out slow in early season Non-Conference road games. This could be a potential nightmare.
      Looks very similar to how the Beavs played common opponents — the Rams played Colorado (44-7 loss), Boise State (28-24 loss), and Minnesota (31-24 loss).
      Hope our guys don’t get too overwhelmed by the media attention of it being the first game, and new stadium.

    • angry angry says:
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      OSU should win that game. I think the D will win it for us. We have a strong rotation now and will need it at elevation. Think we’ll sack their QB a lot and win it that way.

  • Corliss says:
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    I wonder if Dustin Stanton will be drafted? Was he ever honorable mention pac12? Wonder if his training camp in Bend is being paid for? Is Gavin Andrews training some where?

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      He can always become a matador if the football thing does not work out.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    FOOTBALL: Is Villamin being diplomatic or brutally honest when he says about last years receiving corps, “We weren’t paying attention to the coverages. And then when that happened, the quarterback didn’t know where to throw it, so then the balls weren’t getting completed.
    “It’s mostly our fault (over) the quarterbacks, so I put the blame on me.”

    He also says of working with Jason Phillips, ” the volume or types of concepts have not changed for the receivers, but that there is “more emphasis on making sure the details are right.”

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2017/03/jordan_villamin_aims_to_bounce.html#incart_river_index

    • dwill03 dwill03 says:
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      I don’t think he’s being diplomatic, IMO a lot of it was on the receivers. You go back to the transition they went through: Riley ran an extremely pass heavy offense, so they were used to getting the ball. Major 180 when GA takes over. Select a running QB who can’t pass, and when he does connect you get decapitated. Midway through the year we almost completely abandoned the pass and they go from the stars of the team to running ghost routes.

      Year 2: Garretson is the starting qb and he can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Again, receivers are just running ghost routes. I could tell from body language everyone but Bolden kind of disengaged for a few games. Then once Marcus started completing passes it almost looked like the receivers needed the rust knocked off like they were just going into fall practice.

      • JockItch JockItch says:
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        Yeah….some of these dropped passes attributed to being surprised by the ball — that shouldn’t happen. Receivers need to be expecting the every down no matter the offense style.

    • ohiobeav says:
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      Wide reciever youth movement Effect…Exhibit A

      Why was he on the field if he couldn’t figure out the coverages? Stuff like this sounds like he is taking responsibility but I think it sounds more like he threw away his Junior year pouting or goofing off. What a waste.
      His focus/ability was questioned throughout lastseason. He is facing the reality of more talent/competition around him, and draft hopes for next year so now he acts like he is going to be the man. Not buying it, but hopefully he becomes a leader of good things rather than taking plays off or whatever he was doing last year.

      • mckalk mckalk says:
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        Yeah, I thought it was actually a very odd explanation from Villamin and self-incriminating. I think he either has a big season or ends up riding the bench and it I was betting I would choose the latter.

        • dwill03 dwill03 says:
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          I wouldn’t put it past him to have a big year. Athletically he’s kind of a freak when considering unique blend of size, speed and jumping ability. Also has great hands, and is very hard to bring down for a receiver once he has the ball.

          Someone here who’s a current student said Villy had some big off the field problems going on during last season: vague recollection is a law suit with a slimy landlord? So his head wasn’t all in.

          Villamin seems like a good kid. I’m rooting for him

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Without Jabari Bird and Ivan Rabb Cal looks just as crappy as The Beavs. Down 25 to Bakersfield at halftime!

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Yeah they looked like absolute ass. Shot 17% from the field in the first half and trailed by as many as 25 at home to Cal-Bakersfield before losing 73-66. Utah also lost at home to Boise St. Another bad year for the Pac in postseason tournaments coming?

    • Doozeldorf Doozeldorf says:
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      I’ve never been to Waco but I imagine it’s pretty boring there. Those guys need to find some distractions.

  • Bill says:
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    In the way too early speculation news,
    Jake Mulholland will be a draft eligible sophomore next year. Will be 21 by June 2018.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      Good find, Bill. Jake has been solid so far, looking forward to seeing him in conference.
      Let’s hope he gets to showcase his talent this year in Omaha.

  • Corliss says:
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    Cal’s hoops coach Kuanzo to go to Mizzou. Cal has work luck than the Beavs..

    • Corliss says:
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      *worse*

    • Corliss says:
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      Cuonzo to get $3.5 mill per year???

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      I’m shocked he stayed 3 years. He’s not a west coast guy and it was kind of strange seeing him leave Tennessee for Cal.

      I’ll throw out a name that would be a good fit and he’s already in the area. Randy Bennett at St Mary’s. Leon Rice from Boise would be another guy I’d look into.

    • scotty says:
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      He’s a good recruiter, but I don’t remember him tearing it up at Cal. I think they’ll live.

  • nicebeaver nicebeaver says:
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    Beavs pick up their first 2018 verbal pledge. 3* Cornerback Deshon Wilson from Hayward, CA

    https://twitter.com/DeBossman6/status/842131077816713216

    I don’t have time to look up anything on him today, so anybody else feel free to fill in the blanks….

  • Corliss says:
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    And UW has fired Lorenzo Romar….

    • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      Called that before the season started

    • Corliss says:
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      Hopefully that effs up their recruiting class….

      • issaquahbeav says:
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        I’m almost a 100% sure Porter was consulted on this prior to its execution. UW has a ridiculous amount of talent coming in. My guess is they hold on to their Top 4 studs.

        • issaquahbeav says:
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          Check that. Hearing Porter is headed to Missouri now. Son to follow?

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        Romar. Has anyone ever done less with that much talent? Great recruiter and not so great a coach.

    • Bill says:
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      Tinkle should keep with tradition and hire the Porter’s dad.

      • Corliss says:
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        How many assistant coaches without eligible sons can we eliminate??

      • scotty says:
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        Mizzou’s one step ahead of that

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Buffs lose at UCF, PAC goes 0-3 in the NIT. Trojans with the 2nd largest comeback in tournament history to beat Providence to advance

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Top heavy this year. Three great teams and a bunch of mediocre to bad ones.

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    VOTE FOR SCOTT: From the Werner Ladder Naismith C.O.Y. folks:

    This year, fans have a say in the overall voting process. Between March 20-31 fans can visit http://www.naismithtrophy.com/vote to cast their ballot for one of these four Naismith Award finalists. Voting ends at 11:59 p.m. EDT on March 31 and fans are limited to one vote per day. The fan vote will account for 5% of the total vote

    Well, OK, fans votes only count for 5% but, why not vote? Help see that the guy from UCONN doesn’t get it for an EIGHTH time!

  • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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    BASEBALL: Is Casey already setting up the dawgs when he mentions them as one of the stronger teams in the conference? (note that the ucks weren’t included).
    “Our league is better this year,” OSU coach Pat Casey said. “We’ve got three teams in the top 12. Then you start talking about teams like Arizona State, teams like UCLA, teams like Washington that were preseason-ranked. And Utah, we saw them play down in (Arizona), so I know we’ve got a lot of strength throughout the league.”
    Good to also read some “one at a time” talk from the players in the piece from the GT.
    http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/baseball/osu-baseball-beavers-learn-from-past-mistakes/article_9b5bfea0-5dd5-5071-9b19-01fe62b55a15.html

  • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    “It was a continuation of a trend that hounded Romar’s tenure at Washington. He was able to recruit star players, but was never able to fully capitalize on the talent he amassed.”

    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18916641/washington-huskies-fire-lorenzo-romar-9-22-season

    Ya think?!?!? It’s something some of us have KNOWN for years. Great recruiter, terrible X’s and O’s guy. Yet it took UW 15 years to figure this out.

    I’m hearing Dan Majerle and Cameron Dollar as names being thrown out there. I can’t see either of those moving the meter on Mutt Lake. But, much like Chris Petersen is this the job that entices Mark Few to make the move to P5?

    Sorry douche trolls but OSU isn’t the destination that was going to move his meter.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      Football is a different animal. No need for Few to leave unless he wants to be in the big city.

      • whiskey soaked napkins whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        Roger that. However Few has yet to get Gonzaga to a final four. If he can’t do it this year when will he? Football may be a different animal but it’s really difficult to draw in the talent to get a mid major to make that deep run in hoops. From time to time you see the Butler’s, VCU’s and Wichitard State’s in there but the blue bloods always seem to attract the talent to make it happen. The question is will his competitiveness drive him to achieve something he has yet to accomplish? Or is he truly content in Spokane and not getting enough talent to make it happen? Everything I’ve read says the latter. But, imso if there is one job that could potentially make him think about making it happen it’s the one in Seattle.

        FYI, your Gophers are going down. Whiskey’s upset LOCK for the first round. Another imso

        • Bill says:
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          Few would never leave Gonzaga. Schools are less regarded as stepping stones in basketball vs football. Resource difference isn’t as great as football.

          UW will go after an established coach vs an up and comer. This doesn’t mean the coach will come from a big school, but one that has been coaching for a while.

          They definitely lose Porter jr who is going to be a monster at whatever school he lands at.

        • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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          F you buddy LOL. You may be right. Starting guard and the lone senior blew out his achilles in the victory in the B1G tournament against Sparty. Big loss for them as they don’t have a real fourth guard. I’m hoping that the much tougher schedule pulls them through. This has been a mentally tough team. If our center does not foul out, we have a shot. In any regard, this has been an awesome season. Last year 8-23, the worst season in the history of the program. Pitino would have been fired if not for a high buyout. Finished fourth in the B1G and another excellent recruiting class is coming in to join a young team.

  • Corliss says:
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    Romar had been coach for 15 years. Who is next longest tenured P12 coach? Krystowiak?

  • Bill says:
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    Tom Crean fired from Indiana, if I were UW, I’d put in a phone call right away.

    • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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      He got Creaned. Term in the B1G for his cutting and tossing aside players each spring to free up scholarships. “Spring Creaning.” See ya Coach Clappy.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      Crean? No thanks.

      I’d go with John Becker or Kevin Keatts… or steal Chris Collins away from NU.

  • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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    Slightly off topic. Came across this tweet last night. Had me cracking up. Good stuff.

    Check out @BoyThatRant’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BoyThatRant/status/841868752568344580?s=09

  • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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    Speculation is IU makes a run at Hoosier legend Steve Alford.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Poyer with a pretty good deal to play for the Bills….except he’ll have to play Brandin twice a year….

    http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2017/03/ex-oregon_state_s_jordan_poyer_1.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index

  • angry angry says:
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    Today the Pac-12 asked me if I’d be interested in putting up a video player on the site and gaining some revenue in return. Anyone have issue with that?

    I’m not sure what numbers we’re talking. If low I won’t do it. If the video player is huge I won’t do it. And if we can’t talk shit about the Pac-12 I won’t do it.

    Angry@angry is going to be so angry(!) that another legit source has approached me. Poor li’l guy. Still believes I wanted a media pass when I just wanted free tickets to games here in CA. Lolol.

    • Angry@angry says:
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      I don’t care if you wanted the lanyard that comes with it….. you asked, and were denied. Easy to brush off when it’s been your life story.

      • angry angry says:
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        Stop projecting.

      • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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        “Easy to brush off when it’s been your life story.”

        What does that even mean?

        • angry angry says:
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          I think he’s saying my life story is being denied. Yet…he comes to my site…daily.

          Proving once again, he needs to stay out of nuanced conversations.

          • Nicebeaver Nicebeaver says:
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            I would think if it was your life story it would be very difficult to brush off.
            But if unimportant to you, then easy to brush off.
            So I’m not sure if it was an insult, or just a failed insult.

            Anyway, if the video puts a little coin in your pocket, I don’t see the harm. It’s better than asking readers for a subscription.
            Maybe they’ll give you free access to the Pac12 network. Worth asking

          • angry angry says:
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            Good point, I can ask if they can throw in free access. If they deny me, Angry@angry is going to jizz in his tighty whities.

    • bleedorange says:
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      Go for it

    • wannabeav says:
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      that’s pretty cool. The only thing I’d worry about is if it slows down the site, somehow; loading etc.

      • beavergopher beavergopher says:
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        How about Duck shit getting pimped on the viewer. It would make me projectile vomit.

        • angry angry says:
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          No, it’s only OSU material.

          • BlackBandits BlackBandits says:
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            Do it dude, its money in your pocket.

          • WFO WFO says:
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            Yeah I can’t see a problem unless it autoplays shit before the rest of the site can load or has pop ups.

          • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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            I’m with WFO, as long as it is easily ignored it seems worthwhile to explore and negotiate the best deal you can. They took the first step; puts you in a decent bargaining position.

    • Angry@angry says:
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      Okay Angry. Prove all your haters (there are many) wrong. You give all these reasons you won’t do it. I’d bet it didn’t even happen. Prove it

      • Jack Jack says:
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        Wait… prove a negative straw man?

        What are you even talking about?

  • Theboneyard says:
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    Arizona state series starts tonight, will be interesting how they do against higher level competition.

    • oneoldbeav oneoldbeav says:
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      New thread now up for the series and the rest of the busy weekend.

  • progressivebeav progressivebeav says:
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    Most of us run ad block i assume. I’m curious if the P12 player would even show.

    • Jack Jack says:
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      I’m assuming it would be one of those video embeds at the top right. They show with ab. If it’s a manual embed, I’m more likely to open it and watch if it’s content which interests me. If it’s auto, then it screws with any sound I have going on a background tab, and I get annoyed with it.

      There’s an opportunity on this site to allow a manual link to scroll without it affecting page load or scrolling capabilities.

      But the most annoying of all of them are the embeds that are auto and scroll, so you have to manually turn it off instead of on. I’ve stopped going to sites that started employing those.

    • angry angry says:
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      I’d probably ask you guys to disable it for this site in exchange for free content yet where I can get some revenue. Keep it enabled elsewhere. We have no ads here so it’s not necessary here anyway. I’m not sure if I will do it. It’s through a 3rd party who sources Pac content, and I’m not sure their agenda, etc. I’m talking with the guy so we’ll see. He said it could go in the lower right corner and be 400px wide. The sound would be muted by default. Maybe what I will do is test it once WBB slows down. If it sucks I can ditch it. I think it might be the auto/scroll type. Maybe I can negotiate that out.

      • Jack Jack says:
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        It can scroll as long as it’s not auto. Auto screws with the page load, and if I have radio going on another page it screws with that. If I can see it but only listen/watch when I have the time for it (shut off all other sounds… or just give me time to actually go turn sound on then stand/sit still long enough to watch something), the more I’m likely to use it… and actually pay attention to it.

        Bottom right would be less disruptive than top right on the laptop. But how would it work for mobile screens?

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