Sports Illustrated: “August 13, 2001: In the 2001 college football preseason issue, the Oregon State Beavers, coming off an 11–1 season that ended in a thrashing of Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, were listed as the #1 team in the nation, with star running back Ken Simonton on the cover. The Beavers went on to have a 5–6 record with a less than stellar performance from one-time Heisman candidate Simonton.”
“There’s Derek Anderson, a 6’6”, 230-pound quarterback out of Scappoose (Ore.) High who runs a 4.7 40 and threw for 3,603 yards and 40 touchdowns last year. He chose the Beavers over Florida State.
Tim Lappano, who tries to remain calm while describing Anderson’s upside: “He’s got a gun. He throws with accuracy and with touch. Who knows where he can take this offense?”
4.7? Really?!? Touch? S-I wasn’t the only one exaggerating here.
That was a dumb prediction made before the period in history where sportswriters had any use for OL and defense. IIRC, it wasn’t the consensus view, either.
In today’s world, only the big name programs are ranked in the preseason, regardless of how good they were the year before. We never would have been ranked that highly nowadays.
Surprisingly arrogant talk from Jonathan in that 2001 article:
“We may not make as many big plays as we did in the passing game
last year,” says Smith, “but let’s face it–we’re not going to
need as many. Our running game’s going to be even better, and the
defense will be flying around again.”
Beavs were #11 in the preseason AP poll that year. I can’t imagine him talking like that today even if we were ranked in the top 10.
2001 team was better than their record, but they lost 5 road games! Ryan Cesca was the Choukair of his era, the longer he stayed with the program the worse he kicked. I know he cost them the USC game(and bowl eligibility) by missing a couple of chip shots and I think he lost the starting job his senior season. They played like crap against Fresno and UCLA and the rest of the games were close.
I think the Cesca kick in the Washington game was for a tie, but still, it would have kept alive the possibility of the win in OT. Serna missed three extra points against LSU which cost them the game, but then he never missed another one in his college career. What a weird stat. Luck O’ The Beavs.
Nice to see WBB being talked about as potential #1. The two CW games are going to get a lot of attention if both keep it together until then. Gill should be pretty loud for that one. A split seems likely.
The CW game won’t be the only loud one at Gill! PAC12 is so strong in WBB, gotta wonder if a two loss team will end up being conference champ and if two or more PAC teams will make it to the Final Four.
Taylor Jones and Kennedy Brown give Rueck options he hasn’t had for awhile, it will be interesting to see how he manages the first loss these two experience at this level. My bet is he’ll help ’em snap back.
Jalen hurts today, down 56-21….10/26, 154 YDS, 1 INT, O TD
Was this supposed to be the best playoff matchup or Clemson/Ohio State? I’m a bit curious about Ohio State because Ryan Day was somebody I was wishing Oregon State would pursue after Andersen quit.
Watching the LSU beatdown of Oklahoma made me wonder (1) why in the world they (Oklahoma) made the final four, and (2) think that Oregon is very lucky not to have been in the Okies place.
I didn’t see it so its a serious question. I checked the box score and see Clemson gave up nearly 500 yards to the starting QB and starting RB and still won.
Lawrence with about 366 total yards and 3 TDs.
There’s an odd convergence of pro or near-pro talent in the “final four,” with NCAA WWF officiating that just doesn’t sit well with me; its a convergence that usually robs the fan. How was the officiating tonight?
Regarding officiating, I was reading an article a year or so ago ( I can’t find it now), but the premise was that officiating at a high level (professional, major college) should be a younger person’s job. That the cognitive and physical skills needed to perform well start declining in one’s mid-40’s. I think it might have some merit when I see the fat old men officiating SEC and ACC games every week.
Completely serious. The outcome was in doubt to the final 37 seconds. Fantastic talent and coaching. The only blowouts I like to watch is if it a team I don’t like or if it’s the beavers kicking butt.
Ohio State f’d up so much and still had a chance at the end. The shitty 1st half against Wisconsin cost them the 1 seed and the easier path to the Championship game. Judging from the post game comments, God was for Clemson, so pretty tough to overcome that. Explains the fumble TD reversal?
Clemson has been there, what, 4 0r 5 times straight? That should help. Not sure about the matchups. I know I’m not a fan of LSU. It was the OSU/LSU series in the baseball CWS debacle where I referred to NCAA as “WWF” officiating.
Ramblin’ thoughts, whadaya think?
1) Helton is gonna be looking for a new DC and SpTms coach, any reason for Niner to be concerned? Is this a situation where the culture in LA is so different from Corvallis that it’s unlikely anyone would want to move south?
2) Feelings on “atta boy” stickers on helmets? Clemson, tOSU, others use them, I’ve always felt plain is better. Heck, I even advocate leaving players names off of jerseys – make it all about TEAM.
3) Especially for Texasbeav: You best be cheering for Taylor Jones. That Texas gal has a bright future in Corvallis, what a start she has had.
1) Not really. I suspect USC will think it needs to make “bigger” hires than someone like Tisebar, who has made drastic improvements but whose numbers still look terrible. ST hasn’t look particularly special, I’m not sure why there would be a raid there. Poor FGs, not great coverage, not particularly special returns. As far as game changers, OSU special teams have mostly changed the game in the opponents favor. There was a few good onside kicks, but was there much else?
2) I actually kind of like them if there is a reasonably clear way to “earn” them. I do like leaving names off of jerseys though. And Nike symbols.
3) I hope she is contributing to more of a killer mindset. The “nice girls who shoot 3’s” was pretty spot on last year. Too get past the 16, they need a colder, killer mentality. What do you think, does she add mindset and character of that nature?
3) Too soon to tell about Taylor and, although he picks up “t’s” at a fair rate, Rueck doesn’t appear to emphasize killer in his recruiting. Kat Tudor stands out as one who does get “that look “ sometimes.
“nice girls who shoot 3s” Ah, Lindsay Schnell -also known for “no airport Corvallis”. She was right. I applaud SR’s success. Striving to be politically correct, I have stifled – hmm, these young women appear to all look alike – thoughts. I think Jamie Weisner was a killer, however.
Looking ahead at the Pac12 WBB schedule, the end of January looks pretty brutal.
Sun Jan 19th hosting Stanford
Fri Jan 24th at oregon
Sun Jan 26th hosting oregon
At least 2 of those are home games, but playing 3 top 5 matchups in 8 days is a tall order.
Don’t forget the AZ trip the weekend before Stanford. Both are tough now.
I’m not a fan of the Oregon games the same weekend either but if we can make it to that weekend undefeated, everyone will be watching that weekend and it will be amazing publicity for the program.
A little under the radar. Cal’s Wilcox is quietly purging the offensive side of ball. After underperforming this year he has “encouraged” Beau Baldwin to look elsewhere and was not going to renew his contract. Baldwin, whom many here once thought would be the Beavs coach, lands at Cal Poly as head coach, minus roughly $400,000 in annual income. He takes with him, to Cal Poly, a running backs coach, who will earn about $150,000 less and O-Line coach Greatwood “retires.” Three openings there.
Lots of assistant jobs available on Pac-12 staffs right now. UW, UO, Cal, SC to start.
“Caesars Sportsbook installed LSU as a 3-point favorite over Clemson late Saturday night, but the line grew quickly and eventually settled at LSU -5 at most sportsbooks.”
Seems recency bias (i.e. bias of LSU’s blowout) has made people forget Clemson is just as good, if not better. I’d take Clemson at the current -5.
Lsu has been dominant on both sides of the ball all year. Clemson has two weeks to prepare though. I think LSU will win by two scores so either way that could be 6 or 14. They don’t kick many field goals. If Clemson waits almost a half to start moving the back they will be down by a good amount.
I have no idea on REITs. You’d think RE is at a top, but if people keep taking on roommates to buy homes maybe investors can pick up a few more nickles in front of the bulldozer. Wages sure don’t support prices.
Stocks can eek out another 10% this year via a blow off top. I’m bailing now and looking to go short, though. If the VIX goes under 11 buy puts, ya’ll. Market is super overbought per the technicals. What’s interesting is we’re seeing the VIX rising as the market rises. Vix should be dropping. This means people are nervous and buying insurance, showing a lack of conviction in this latest move. Meanwhile, the “Greed Index” is at 93, highest ever. So we truly do have morons picking up their last nickles in front of a bulldozer here.
Some issues with both being industrial metals and US being due for recession. Both are much smaller markets, too, so more volatility. That’s why I prefer gold. Since I recommended gold in March/April around $1300ish it’s moved to $1515. About 17%. Not a bad move if anyone listened. We’re about to see the second leg of that move. There’s almost zero resistance on the chart between 1500 and 1900. I expect it to get to around $1650 on this latest move.
I was only half serious about the silver and Platinum. Silver has always been held artificially low, so it offers stability. Not alot of gains or losses. Platinum on the other hand does have up cycles, but the gains aren’t near as good as gold and the losses make it riskier.
Carrot futures? I can get behind that!
Honestly all my stuff is really conservative, no big gains but no real losses.
I have recently got into silver and gold. I personally feel it is getting close and the $ bill is backed by nothing. Therfor the only thing I can personally think of was precious metals.
I know a lot of people here love capitalism and I don’t want to start the debate but the corporate capitalism we live in currently is not a sustainable way of life for a country. I really like a Marxist form of economics which is a democracy at the work place not just elected officials. Chris hedger is a extremely intelligent person that I thoroughly enjoy as is democracy at work on YouTube.
But either way what happened with the stock market that makes you say this?
I think it’s been up for like 12 straight days, and the technicals scream overbought. Only way out of that is a big correction or stocks trade sideways for months as earnings catch up. If we melt up more from here, great, I’m looking for the VIX sub 11 to put on a massive short position.
What is frustrating me is the VIX is rising as stocks rise. Makes it hard to get a good price on options and short it. This shouldn’t happen and suggests market participants lack confidence in the latest move and are simply following the heard (greed index of 93, all time high). We should get at least a 10% correction soon (or about 6 to 8 months of sideways movement as earnings grow into these new multiples). Those are base case and most probable. It’s possible we have 1999 all over again and just blow a Peter North size load right now — I’d put that around 20%, but I am seeing the behavior (retail executing market orders) and sentiment (water cooler talk) is growing to support/suggest something like that. Also, I don’t think the market is discounting possibility of a Trump loss. In fact, the (stock market) odds are all suggesting a landslide victory…makes a very good opportunity for someone with the guts to take the other side of the masses’ trade.
FED might buy stocks. That would be a game changer. I think it’s likely, but not until the next massive crash.
I bought gold from ajpm. They have all prices listed online and it adjusts all day with the stock market. Ajpm.com is where I looked and have gone in to get exact lunch as advertised. Silver I have gone to a couple places in Vancouver fidelity coin is one. The only thing tricky the silver is I have bought several small amount ( 1oz, 2 oz etc..) and when purchasing small quantities you pay more per oz and as it goes up it’s closer to “spot” pricing. Meaning 1 oz is say $17 per oz in the stock market, they will sell for day $18.50 but 2 oz you can get for 18.25 and 10 oz you can get for $17.50. Those are examples but I think it’s understandable.
I am with angry and believe gold is the best problem is it’s expensive $1550ish per oz stock currently. I think gold is going to be a great asset. Although silver has potential to get up to $50 an oz, but I would say $30ish is pretty realistic within a year or 2.
Gold trades on the commodities exchange (Comex) not the stock market. But I know what you mean.
To get spot you buy off Craigslist. To negotiate something very close to spot you go in-person and talk with a local coin shop. If you buy online, expect about a 7% premium though that changes with demand. Higher demand = higher premium. Bullion carries the lowest premium.
Since gold and silver gains are taxed at the “collectables” rate, you really have to get premiums low. Though, honestly, from what I hear nobody pays those collectable rates. They are there to dissuade buyers and keep people in dollars.
Regarding price, there’s no limit on either. Just look at gold prices in other currencies. They are at all time highs in about seven major currencies. The Venezuelan/gold chart is very interesting, and I suggest everyone take a look at that chart and gold in other currencies. Right now the dollar is benefiting from being world reserve currency, and it’s the only thing keeping gold in check in the U.S. So it’s not about what price gold and silver hit, but it’s about how much purchasing power it retains. Silver could go to $50 or it could go to 10k or 20k if we print enough (and we have/are, it’s just velocity (circulation speed) is on the slow side right now for various reasons. There are several things that can trigger that circulation increase. Fiscal stimulus would be one). We don’t want high gold and silver prices. That’s a bad, bad world. You buy it because governments are headed down that path, but you don’t wish for it.
I’d add that royalty companies are another way to play gold. I prefer them over mining shares because they simply get a royalty on a mine without all the risks. Franco Nevada, Sandstorm Gold, Silver Wheaton, Osisko Gold, and Metalla are a few I like, with the latter two being more speculative, but they have good royalty assets bought on the cheap and are growing.
A final point is that silver usually follows gold and outperforms gold. This is because the masses can’t afford gold (you can buy 1/10th OZ) so they go for silver, and since silver is such a smaller market than gold the price rises faster. The downside of that is the reverse is also true, and also that silver is half monetary metal and half industrial metal, so the industrial aspect could be pulled down in recession. I still like it, but one should know the strengths of each. Gold is mostly pure monetary metal except a few uses in areospace and dentistry (and of course, jewellery, though IMO that’s monetary).
I do not think Marxist means what you think it means. Marxism/socialism/communism all lead to a small wealthy governing class and poverty (at best) for the masses. At the foundational level, these utopian trains of thought encourage the worst behavior in people and form bureaucracies that cannot react in a timely manner and are typically corrupted. Centralized power corrupts time and time again…human nature. In it’s purest form capitalism (aka freedom) harnesses the desire for personal achievement, allows decision making at the lowest levels (efficiency), does not require bureaucracy, (however many times develops associations for the benefit of all, yet membership is not required…a beautiful thing as ineffective organizations die) and has created the best economic engine. most prosperity, and supported the most powerful military in the history of mankind.
No system is perfect – Mega corporations who have been allowed to pervert the system (crony capitalism) with the willing help of dirt bag politicians (Dems and RINOS like Mittens) and foreign government influence (looking at you China). The common theme here is bureaucracies kill efficiency. Marxism Socialism and Communism fail again and again. The unstoppable force of a free market (“capitalism”), even with the relatively recent drag of bullshit social programs from Pres. Wilson on, is the best there is as clearly shown by history.
Something people have incorrect is that inflation is good for stocks. You see all these idiots on TV cheering on rate cuts/inflation. Deflation while the FED is printing/trying to inflate (which is what we have) is good for stocks because corps can buy back shares (there has been zero earnings growth, only share reduction to keep P/Es in line, since 2014), but the kind of inflation they want destroys stocks (dollar denominated) in any real terms. Sure, they will rise in nominal terms, but they will buy nothing in real terms. Yields very susceptible to erosion in that scenario, too, as you wait 3 months to be paid worthless currency. People are piling into utilities and blue chips for yield. Going to be a big loser. Gold is the biggest winner, but my guess is governments will enact a windfall profit tax on gold gains, so those smart enough to see the end game might have to hold it through a paradigm shift and friendlier times to realize any gain or maintenance of their purchasing power.
The inflation they’re targeting will wipe out anyone on fixed income, too. If you’re on fixed income, figure out a strategy now while there’s a little time. Own a business if you can. Best protection. After that, hard assets and income producing assets.
Please correct me if I’m wrong cause the stick market is only a passing interest to me these days. With all the stock buy backs aren’t many large companies decently positioned for a retraction or recession? It seems like they will have to answer to their investors less and have more assets to leverage. Following that train of thought it seems like correction should be localized to the stock market and not terrible for the economy as a whole.
That said if the economy is affected the tarrifs, messed up trade and low interest rates give almost no course for correction except massive federal investment as a stimulus.
Those buy backs mean tons of debt on their balance sheet. Corp debt is at all time highs. I wouldn’t say that’s a decent position to be in. Especially if rates have to rise to fight off inflation…(that the FED is actively trying create in order to monetize massive government debt). Buying back a share isn’t an asset. It just retires the share (they don’t have to pay a dividend on it, and their P/E ratio rises, justifying a higher stock price). No asset. The debt needed to buy the shares is actually a liability.
Tarrifs are a huge nothing burger that the algos have fallen for about 100 times. China just ships their product to Australia first, who then ship it here. There are no tariffs. It’s Trump appealing to his base.
Regarding if a downturn in stocks effects the overall economy, that has a ton of variables. Hard to say. But in general, stock market downturns have sentiment shifts, and sentiment shifts result in new behavior.
Agree next huge stimulus is going to be fiscal spending.
There is definitely tariffs. There is work around but even if it’s synthetic the real price for goods has increased. It’s caused serious issues in construction where I have my finger on the pulse.
Thanks for the explanation on buy backs. Looks like it’s gonna be a shitty one.
Are you sure those price increases are tariffs? FED has printed 360 billion since September. That money flows into all kinds of things. It could be simply inflation showing up in your industry. Everything I have read says China bypasses via shipping elsewhere. Having read a lot about China, that makes sense with their M.O.
Construction cost was rising before the tariffs, from memory…
I edited my comment above — you’re dead on next stimulus is going to be huge and fiscal. If you don’t count the FED doing repo (QE4) right now as stimulus. They claim it isn’t…either way, whatever comes after they fail with QE4 will be huge and fiscal.
Very sure. Lumber has increased 5-15% over inflation, steel (rebar, hardware, nails, screws) is 10-30% depending on how specific it is and where else it’s manufactured. Tools and consumables (blades and such) increased 5-10% in 2019. It could just as easily be companies taking advantage. Tariffs are more than China too, they have been thrown all over Central and South America, canada, asia and so forth. Prices are also set on prediction of future costs so just because they are slapped on and removed doesn’t mean the real cost doesn’t change…when companies see the profits they don’t bring them back down.
Cost has increased steadily since 2010 but it’s gotten extreme in the last year. For the first time since the Korean war steel roof and siding is more expensive than alternatives.
What’s interesting about the fiscal side is it would result in immediate and massive inflation. (Lack of) Velocity of the currency is the reason we’re not getting that, despite the FED printing almost 5 trillion in currency over a decade. If the money goes into banks and sits in their coffers it can’t circulate at a rate fast enough to create rising prices. The inflation is in their coffers waiting to be unleashed. That said, if you take that same 5 trillion and put it into a fiscal package, you’d get the money in the masses’ hands rather than the banks, and since people love to spend, the velocity would be fast, causing hyperinflation. So while fiscal would stave off a technical recession for a little while as the currency works through the market, it would also create an inflation so high it would likely send us into an inflationary depression. People need to be careful what they wish for. Given the government is desperate and stupid, my guess is they will try fiscal stimulus after the FED monetizing government debt fails. So I think we need another big crash before we see fiscal. Interestingly, though, you’re seeing the narrative on major networks change to how “We’re at the end of the line of what monetary policy can do”, and they follow that up with talk of fiscal. Seed planting. So it might be here sooner than I think. Super bullish for gold and to a degree Real Estate (other than property tax/utilities, but the fixed debt will be wiped out). Bearish for stocks, bonds, and cash. The only bullish case I can think for stocks in that scenario is the inflation wipes out balance sheet debt, but the banks and hedge funds on the other end of that would fail. A default/restructuring of debt without massive inflation would be cleaner, but we don’t seem to want that option. We want the…dare I say…nuclear (!) option.
It could just as easily be companies taking advantage.
Exactly.
Prices are also set on prediction of future costs
Exactly, again.
Cost has increased steadily since 2010 but it’s gotten extreme in the last year.
I think a lot of that is inflation. If you look at how government inflation was tracked in the 1970s when we almost had hyperinflation, by that metric yearly inflation is running over 10% now. They’ve just changed how they calculate it, and basically remove anything that goes up, which is how they keep saying it’s under 2%. It’s not. Maybe the lumber industry is just smart and figured that out, and adjusted accordingly.
I too have a pulse on Construction(Electrical goods mainly) from my line of work. I can guarantee you, my company is not taking advantage of our customers. In fact, we are doing the opposite. We are being upfront on which manufacturers and what products are being increased at what time. We do pass on the increases to the customer who then passes the increase onto their customer. When the Tariff’s cease, things will settle back down to what the market levels should be so long as the manufacturers and their reps are ethical. Pre-buying goods ahead of a tariff increase only is beneficial to my end user, not us. The reason why is because we cannot sit on inventory at one cost and then when we buy again, we don’t sell at the new cost of goods. There are those out there that will pre-buy and sell at that cost until their goods are sold and then buy more at the new price to try and give better pricing to their customers, but the larger corporations will have a harder time being able to do that than the smaller businesses would in this regard.
I think CAT is a good idea for that scenario, but it would have to drop about 25-30% to be attractive…
Don’t think we see infrastructure spending until we get a crash of some kind, so I wouldn’t hold it here and wait at these valuations. Dead money at these prices in the current paradigm, IMO. But, nothing I say is financial advice — just opinion.
Consider that bonus depreciation for equipment caused many Construction companies to revamp their fleets the last few years. Agree with Angry there is no push for infrastructure spending at this time as the economy is humming along.
I’ve noticed the drop in velocity of money as well which I don’t have an answer for yet. Wages have been increasing for the first time in 20 years – IMO very much thanks to the tariffs, which are effective and necessary. “Hurts muh lower class” is bullshit propaganda from open border and cheap labor corporations. Nike shoes are more expensive then ever, a Traeger Grill isn’t any cheaper, and a Skilsaw Model 77 isn’t cheaper – all sold out to foreign manufacturing. Labor costs down, corporate profits up, and the “Lower Class” doesn’t have shit for jobs or wage growth. Cool, you saved $2 on your made in China socks and lost a buck an hour on wages (probably more). TaRriFs DoN’t WeRk aNd HeRt tHe LoWeR CLaSs from the parrots doing bidding for International Corps and their paid off politicians
Lumber was direct reaction to the Canadian tariffs and rumors. Tariffs are dangerous to economies because companies react even on rumor of a new tariff. US construction gets huge amounts of high quality lumber for beams and long span members from Canada. The inflation is true but the companies that raised prices are literally quoting tariffs as the reason/excuse. Same deal for steel but the countries vary more.
The pain is really being felt for low income and simple housing. The price of a pole home or barn went up 30-40% unless you change from classic materials (which is still a 15% increase). It’s rough all around.
The CPI stats from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics does not support your claims alluding to double digit increases (much less 5%). I am also in construction, and while items have certainly increased, it appears to be more metal related…which there isn’t much of by volume in low class housing. The raw material increases also do not appear to be much over standard year over year price increases.
I’m going off estimates from suppliers, complaints from my builders, and endless material change requests due to costs. Low income housing still has plenty of nails, rebar (I hope), brackets and hangers. Due to the nature of the usage changes in cost of build are painful.
This might have already been mentioned and you probably already know that OL is closing down its comments section. I suspect some of the Duck trolls will try to gain entry into this Beaver blog and some of them are downright assholes. I’m hoping that as owner of this blog, you won’t permit those doofs to infiltrate this site and ruin it like they did on OL.
Their explanation was it was too costly to monitor and remove bad comments….took too many resources. I think it’s a bad move by them and they’ll soon find that out because lots of articles, not just sports related, will feel the impact of fewer clicks. Frankly, I’m glad they made the decision but always enjoyed some of the good nature back-n-forth between Ducks and Beavers. However, a few on both sides took it too far with personal attacks and rude comments and I think that was a major contributing factor.
Anyway, just thought I’d put it on your radar screen. Happy New Years.
I dunno, when Fox, CNN and Yahoo are the most popular news sites I don’t think quality writing is associated with profitability anymore. In fact it seems like in a lot of areas of business anymore providing a quality good or service isn’t a winning recipe on its own.
Angry has always had a free speech approach, the best way to discourage trolls is to simply ignore them. In large part this has worked here.
I’ll always suspect the big zero felt childish back and forth in their comment sections was good for clicks. If they have actually eliminated comments I guess I was wrong.
Not totally free. I banned an asshole who was glad/taunting when someone’s loved one died, and I also banned some creepy people who love sock puppets. It takes a lot, though! You know you’re the dregs of society of you get permanently banned here.
I wouldn’t quite call my special friend a “sock puppet” (yet anyway), so thanks for letting me stay! Regarding, the O-Live ban, I guess we will be the only ones able to call out Canzano’s hypocrisies going forward. Currently, he keeps writing the same bromance opinion piece on Cristobal over and over again without saying anything new. Apparently, Marco is now going to be the savior of the P-12, hallelujah!
I think closing down commenting sections is becoming the norm. You don’t see it often anymore. You read the article and then can’t say something behind the protection of your screen. Reading comments/commenting always takes me to a place where I second guess why I’m spending my time reading them. I don’t compare it to reading comments on a blog since it’s not just people spouting off. RIP OL, haven’t cared about you for a very long time, Even before the Luke thing it was very one sided.
The whiskey report says this place sucks ginormous donkey cocks. It is not the “happiest place on earth”. I think i dealt with my yearly quota of crying children today and none of them were mine.
If you like crying babies, entitled Californians, long lines, 2 hour wait times for rides and overpriced food and crap? This IS the happiest place on earth.
This trip has been an unmitigated cluster fuck of a disaster from day 1. Our truck pulling our trailer broke down in Weed, California leaving us stranded there overnight. Only Whiskey pulling a rabbit out of his ass got us a rental truck out of Redding capable of pulling our travel trailer down here on day 2. You’re welcome family.
Over worked, over tired, underappreciated, underfed and a total twat of a new wife today is leaving a lasting impression of absolute shit on this trip and has me longing for the simplicity of home.
Dear Portland, you should take some advice from the LA/So Cal area on dealing with traffic. I’d much rather drive in this shit hole than yours.
Happy new years and hoping for a better 2020 for beaver sports and you AB degenerates aa well.
The HiLo cafe in downtown Weed California use to have all you can eat ribs every Wednesday. It was pretty good. I’m sure the few times I ate there, i almost bankrupted them.
And Disneyland has always sucked, it’s not a new thing. I remember going around 1990 and it was like that. I have zero desire to go back, and thank god my oldest girls are pretty much over the Disney princess phase.
Even as a kid I didn’t like Disney. Never understood the appeal. Some of the really old movies are impressive just to see what they could do without technology. That’s about it. I lived near Disneyland for a decade and never even had the notion to go. Went to DisneyWorld when I was ten because the family made me go, and it was okay, but never would go back.
Next time, (because you know there will be a next time as long as you’re still married) fly into Santa Ana, catch an uber and stay at a hotel within walking distance of the parks. The cost isnt much more and it is worth every penny in time/headaches/marriages saved.
We went down there in May and had a great time and everybody wants to go back already.
Same with us. We stayed at the park and that makes all the difference. If anyone is tired or needs a break they can just head up to the room. Also get the Max Pass for your phone. You can obtain fast passes without having to go to the ride / attraction then head over when your time window is open. All but eliminates waiting in line. We went about a year ago and overall it was a good time.
Staying at the park is definitely the best option if available. Can be real speedy though, especially once adding 3 day park hoppers, etc…
We’ve stayed at good neighbors directly across the street that end up being about the same distance walk (unless you stay at Grand Californian.) the last couple times and it’s been fine. Kinda like Vegas but for kids: only at the room when sleeping. So $190 a night instead of $500 – 700.00.
I’d say the mobile app. fast pass is a game changer. If you work it right you never have to wait more then 20 minutes for a ride. If you don’t pay the extra $15.00 for access to that then you’re kinda dopey and should just stay home. Have Bill Engval give you a sign.
Also: if you need car seats and don’t want to travel with (we don’t) then I found a shuttle service actually through SNA that was very reasonable/about the same as an Uber. Ran by a bunch of old Persian dudes that were funny.
This is going to sound bad, but the most fascinating thing I observed about both Disneyland and Disney World was the thousands-strong contingent of massive “guests” in their electric scooters cruising from place to place, in and out of lines, darting into secret doors to become first in line. It says something about our country, but I’m not sure what?
So true. When did obesity become a legitimate handicap?
And with perks like line cutting and better parking spots included?
And some of the people on the scooters just hit the accelerator and expect everybody to move out of their way. My daughter nearly got steamrolled by one and the I could see the driver bitching to themselves about people in her way.
That makes sense, but I think it’s a trend that cant be explained by just a higher rate of disabled people than past decades.
This is just an observation from someone who has been visiting these parks every few years since the early 80’s. The number of carts rolling around those places is suddenly exploding. I think part of it is people have been rewarded by shorter lines, so they abuse the resources available to them.
I’m going with changes in motorized cart technology being part of the change. I could imagine before motorized wheel chairs were so common, the idea of manually maneuvering a wheel chair through a theme park kept a significant portion of the disabled population from even wanting to make the trek. But as they became motorized and more readily available, more disabled people are visiting because they can get around more easily.
A few years ago I had surgery on my left knee. Part of my release directions was no weight on my left leg for 8 weeks. So if I needed to go shopping it was crutches or those scooters. I was absolutely amazed at how many overweight people used them ( they may have had disabilities, I don’t know) and at the time it really pissed me off that most of the time I wasn’t able to use one because of the overweight people were using them. Imagine an Angry Carrots trying to get down store isles on crutches, trying to be polite saying excuse me can I get by just to have people move 3-4 inches. I think I yelled at more people in those 8 weeks than my entire life.
That’s legit. We are also living longer and have less healthy life styles. That trends towards being in terrible shape. I guess my point is you never know what someones life is just by looking. I have aggressive psoriatic arthritis, when flaring late in drug cycle I have to lay down to get down stairs and wiggle. When not flaring mid cycle I can run acouple painful miles and walk normally. I live in constant pain but only my wife can tell from my body language and face.
Since Disney is still on our minds, has anybody seen video from this fight last year in toon town? It’s magical.
It’s pretty unbelievable how one dude essentially bests the shit out of his entire family while their kids cry and watch it all go down.
And security has their hands tied because they don’t have the authority to physically subdue somebody for fear of lawsuit.
This video has a ton to unpack, and even includes multiple scooters as Mckalk mentioned.
One hero guest comes in and chokes the big dude out towards the end and then smartly bounces and goes about the rest of his day.
Nobody wants to spend the rest of their day answering questions from authorities.
After getting back up after being choked out, you can hear the pissed off big dude in the pink shirt asking where the “bitch ass n….” who choked him out went.
My guess is he got the f out of toon town and I don’t blame him
Anyone interested in going to any of the away baseball games other than Surprise, AZ tournament? I’m debating going for the 3 game series in Stillwater, OK and/or the football game against OK State.
Brother and I are going to Mississippi State – we have gone to Surprise the past two years and enjoyed the games, (weather was bad both years – cold the first year, rain last year). Thought it would be fun to see the program at MSU – the stadium is unreal, based on what I’ve seen on TV. Should be about 10-12 of us going.
We’ve been to football games at Michigan, Minnesota and Dallas, (when the Beavs played TCU in the season opener), and have held back the past few years…maybe a trip to Stillwater this fall?
I was just looking at Football head coach salaries in the Big 12 (Curious as to what Matt Rhule makes and what his buyout might be – I figure he will jump ship to the NFL this year as he never misses an opportunity to interview with any team that comes calling). I think all 10 of them make more than Niner. Is the Pac 12 behind all the other power 5?
I went to the WBB game yesterday vs. Bakersfield and noted that Andrea Acquino wasn’t with the team and not showing up on the pre-game videos. I wonder if she has medically retired? Or maybe she was home for the holidays since she’s unable to play?
Bronco Mendenhall has Virginia in the Orange Bowl. He wanted the OSU job when GA got it. Glad we have Smith but wonder what Bronco would have done at OSU.
I was hoping for him or either Beau Baldwin. Looks like BB would have probably been a whiff but not Bronco. I like JS though so and hindsight is always 20-20.
BTW, the people who don’t want Bronco Mendenhall are crazy, imo. He’s the Tinkle of this hiring cycle. He is an asset instead of liability (Riley) and would have a +1 or even +2 win variant per year. I get the lure of taking a shot on Wells and the young guys, but BM would be a home run.
Some of the comments are interesting. Matt Wells…what happened to that guy? I guess I can just google it.
The all-time, worst-ever “luck of da beavs” was Gary Andersen. It wasn’t like losing a game on the last play or injuries to the best players. It was long-term like the 1918 flu epidemic or the potato famine.
Don’t know if anyone has noticed but Deanna Colwell, Director of Operations for the OSU WBB, is super hot. She’s even prettier in person than in her picture on OSU WBB Roster. I think I’m in deep love with her (LOL). I was sitting behind the bench just a few rows up and she caught me drooling over her and she gave me kind of a smile that suggested, “okay perv, stop undressing me with your eyes.” LOL. Seriously, she is one gorgeous lady that I’m going to gave Nick McWilliams introduce me to (he told me he would so…..). Oh yummy!
Keeping with the Disney theme. Took my daughter when she was 5. She is now 30. Never again. The amount of rude people cutting lines was enough for me to come to that conclusion. Teaching your kids to wait their turn is hard when so many were assholes. I think manners are not necessary taught all over the world. I will leave it at that. Unfortunately my wife is thinking a trip with the grandkids is great idea. God help me.
Happy new year to all. Hoping the badgers give us a great start to the year by rolling the zeros.
Pull them out of school and go in the offseason – End of April, Early Oct, Mid Nov, Mid January. Stay away from 3 day weekend holidays (Presidents day). I was told by an employee at Universal studios in Florida that the slowest week of the year is the week after Thanksgiving.
You’ve got it right, always book traditionally slow times. I’ve been to Disneyland several times and we booked the week after Thanksgiving one time and the 2nd week after New year’s day another time. A third time we went in July ( brutal mistake). I really recommend staying at one of the hotels in the park too, lots of perks.
He never had a chance, the motorcycle ramp wasn’t steep enough. He plunged right into the side of that canyon and probably didnt feel a thing. Too bad Vernon Adams was doing his launch calculations.
Actual quote here from Cristobal at Rose Bowl media day. This is pretty laughable.
Am I reading this out of context? Did he turn FIU into conference champions too? I have no idea, but I hope that is what he means.
“Q. Throughout your career, people have doubted you. Even getting this job, people may have questioned (inaudible). What do you think you’ve proven and continue to prove?”
COACH CRISTOBAL: ……..We never had anything handed to us. We just grinded and worked. Together with a couple of the staff members here, we took over the worst situation in Division I football, made it a conference champion…..
At FIU he won the Sun Belt with a 7-6 record. His first season the team went 1-11. Then he got fired two years after winning the conference championship, finishing 8th in the worst conference in the country.
Funny, just randomly came across a news story that said Disneyland hit it’s all time peak capacity on Dec 27th and had to stop letting people in at 11:30AM.
So basically this week was the all-time worst time to make a trip down there.
Been awhile since I’ve looked at anything recruiting related.
Couple of names to keep an eye on.
Bem Stille, a potential DE transfer candidate from Nebraska. Havent confirmed anything yet, but he looks like a grad transfer possibility who could take the place of Alex Lemon, if we’re still looking to backfill the DE position. Who said the Nebraska transfer pipeline was dead? https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ben-Stille-85241/RecruitInterests/
Another guy, Tyler Morano, looks like a potential PWO prospect for the 2020 class.
Looks like a late bloomer physically. Tall and putting weight onto a currently pretty slim 6’5″ frame. Must have good grades given his current offer list.
Just seems like such a tough way to go through with it, if that’s the choice he made. I could see somebody getting hit if they had headphones and weren’t using common sense, or were just heavily intoxicated.
Either way, such a sad story all the way around
With kids these days wearing their beats headphones everywhere, it’s not that hard to get yourself ran over by something. But killing yourself via train is brutal.
The last time I remember UT in the Alamo bowl (2012 I think) we were running at them in the first half and they could not stop us. It felt really good. After halftime we decided to pass the ball instead of run. We tried it the whole 2 nd half even though it was not working very well. We lost. I was very frustrated. It felt like everyone except our coaches could see that we needed to go back to the run.
It was about this time that I was starting to believe that our football program was in a slow downward spiral. Same pro barns every year and yet keep doing the same thing.
Whittingham probably a little like Riley. Same problems every year. Never have a really good offense. Probably never make to the rose bowl (cannot win the big game)
Happy New Year all.
Wanting to take my daughter to a gymnastics meet this year. If I’m looking at the schedule right, I see one meet at home. Am I missing something? I guess we could attend an away meet if anyone knows of some good tailgaters.
Utah can’t be the bully, and they just look like a bunch of undisciplined punks. From what I saw, UT got a little selective home cookin to keep Utah off the board and now Utah has lost composure…
Utah got hosed by refs in Pac12 championship with 3 non-calls for targeting and now they look like undisciplined chumps. Pac12 microcosm to all of college footballPac12 best are chumps, I hope the Ducks get destroyed by Wiscy, but I’d probably bet money on Ducks simply based on ESPN having more say than they should about which teams get calls/coverage/hype etc. It is only entertainment, no longer amateur football.
I attended the Fiesta Bowl and it was a fun evening. OSU fans were upset by the refs, Clemson fans were classless leaving the stadium as if they were royalty and earned the win…entertaining though, as ESPN required after the LSU blowout coronation earlier in the day.
ESPN put up an interesting statistic. They said that the loser of the Pac-12 conference championship game has never gone on to win their bowl game. 0 – 9
Happy New Year’s, Beavettes! Here’s to a Quack loss. Maybe it will shut Canzano up, he posted his fourth Cristobal-love opinion piece today. Canzano somehow tied it into his own grandfather hitchhiking across the country to attend a Rose Bowl game in the 1930s. It ended with Canzano, letting us know again that Cristobull gets up at 4:15 am every morning and hardly sleeps. Maybe sleep deprivation explains his in-game time management skills?
Happy new year, buddy.
I took the Ducks +2.5. Think Mario will be an absolute failure long-term, but he has a senior QB and faster players than Wisconsin. Things lined up for him this year. I’m not sure where Wisconsin has an advantage with a cursory look.
Maybe Wiscy defense does a bit better than Beavs did in CW and we see the Ducks implode. Wiscy D is the Tibesar template for what we should expect in the next 2-5 years. I hope Beavs become a better defensive version of Wisconsin over time…
Except for all those 4-5 star recruits he’s stuck with. Anyone could coach them to a reasonable record. Look what Helfrich did with Mariota, before reality hit.
UW has RB Taylor, with nearly 2000 yards this season. Other than that, not sure what they have. I think they put up good defensive numbers in first half if season.
I won’t be surprised if UW wins, but I expect Oregon will win and we’ll hear about why they should have been in playoff instead of Oklahoma….
I don’t much care. More interested if UO has any good QBs on the roster next year or a transfer QB coming in?
The Wake Forest grad transfer QB, Jamie Newman, seems to be the next QB for oregon. Hasn’t transferred yet, but the media makes it sounds like a done deal
I saw the ticker on Newman come across on ESPN, it seemed odd given that he was an entrenched starter on a decent team already, but now it makes sense if he’s heading to Whoregon to chase a “natty”. As with all things Oregon, I hope it fails if that is what is going to happen.
Gopher WR Johnson makes one of the more impressive catches of the season to put Gophs up 7 just before half. Could have had a toe out of bounds, but replay wasnt conclusive
That was one hell of a grab in person. He has made a ton of amazing catches this year, but he dropped a perfect pass right in his hands at Iowa that would have put us in the Rose Bowl. Came back for his senior year because he promised his mom he would graduate. Have to love that.
So, in a situation eerily similar to the one Smith faced late in the WSU game, Minnesota, on a 4th and 2 from the Auburn 41, eschews the punt (that the announcers think is necessary) and instead completes a 10 yard pass over the middle to a tight end. I mean, even the play call is the same as Smith chose. The only differences, which I don’t think are probative, is that Beavergopher’s squad was ahead by 7, not 4 as in OSU’s case, and there was a minute more remaining.
Smith made the right call in Pullman; his team simply did not execute; Fluke’s did. It will be interesting to read Beavergopher’s take on this call when he get back from the game.
I thought it was the right call because in a bowl game you are playing with house money. Go win the game!
The amazing thing was it was to the TE. Penn State hired away our OC last week, so our young WR coach was the play caller today.
We literally have targeted TE’s only about five times ALL season. One of my frustrations with our former OC.
Was the catch as incredible on TV as it was in person? Looked to be a deflating overthrow until it wasn’t.
Thanks. It has been a crappy last twelve months for me. My wife passed away from cancer three days before Xmas last year. College sports have provided a distraction and some moments of joy. Beav baseball and watching Adley’s brilliance helped me get though the winter and spring.
It has been a magical season in Minneapolis with three miracle wins to start the year. My tailgating friends have all said that she was the Gophers guardian angel this year. Today was very fun.
Rumor mill says Nike U is interested in grad transferring Wake Forest QB. He was really good in the early part of the season this year, but played hurt the second half (granted, the competition was less than stellar.)
Are you implying that the great Mario Cristobal and his esteemed coaching staff have not developed one of their 4/5 star recruits to step up next year?
Interesting. I felt all along this year that Mario was making a mistake by not getting significant snaps for his back up QB; there were several opportunities left unused.
How many “blue bloods” are built on one and done transfers, especially at QB? It’s one thing for niner to rebuild a team using JC’s and transfers, another for a team that has the recruiting advantages of nike. The transfer portal and new redshirt rules are changing the way programs are built, I expect JS to have more success over the next decade than Mario largely because of the culture Smith is building.
Interesting refereeing there to move the chains then review with no measurement and overturn the call, then measure on the next play on a more obvious 1st down.
I kindof wish they would just insert a something like 6 spaced out microscopic sensors inside every game ball and let that determine where the ball starts and stops on every play. Have it synched up with the clock and the sideline/firdt down/endzone markers. No more time wasted replaying bad calls or having to make bad calls just in case a replay will overturn it. It really sucks the life out of the game to have to watch the pomp and circumstance of every replay call.
That fucking official was right there on the Wisconsin pass play and he missed the receiver going out of bounds and the ball hitting the turf. Do they just call completions and then rely on replay to bail them out? I would be embarrassed if I missed two key components of one play that happened right in front of me!
Herbert is a weird dude. I get the impression he would just like to stay in college forever. I could be wrong, but based on what I’ve seen, I don’t see a future NFL star.
He definitely regressed this year. Could be psychological. Maybe he’s intimidated by the NFL and anxiety kept him in college for his senior season and messed with his head?
Yup. Breeze is one very good player who certainly has a nose for the ball.
He reminds me of a healthy David Morris, too bad he didn’t choose to come to Corvallis.
How many loads has Herbstreet dumped in his drawers talking about the schmucks over the past 3 hrs? Wisconsin is winning but you would never know listening to these honks.
Herbert taking that sack, not untypical for him, and not close to his publicity. He’s got an arm, like some others we’ve seen, but not a leader and not FB smart enough to live up to his press.
Wisconsin DB got shoved into Herbert at the end of that TD run and the penalty is on him. That’s the type of BS calls that should be reviewable. He doesnt make contact with Herbert if he doesn’t get shoved in the back by a duck player
That gets called a penalty and that fucking Arizona St player almost ended James Rodgers career with an end-zone tackle and nothing was called! I know I’m losing it a little here!
I think what bothers me the most about the U of Nike right now is that they are given so many advantages including non-calls, no targeting calls, no unsportsmanlike for their celebration garbage and trash talk, all the free ESPN exposure, Nike promises behind closed doors, 5 star athletes from everywhere and with all of that, they struggle to be a winner in the best sense of the word.
I despise the Nike impact on their program and think it wreaks of obvious corruption going on about 20 years. They are no longer the Chip Kelly machine and it is frustrating that they continue to get hyped as if they are invincible.
Sour grapes I suppose but it is nauseating to see them hyped on the national platforms in every major sport when the obvious influence of Nike$$ is ignored by all…
Well said, do you think when Uncle Phil passes on to the great waffle shoe in the sky that anything changes? I’ve heard he donates a little to OSU also. I think he created a monster but does not have much direct influence any longer. Unfortunately, I think the machine keeps churning after he’s gone.
Fucking shit, how badly did ESPN/Disney want the Quacks to win this game? Herbstreit said it would be a “landmark victory” for Oregon? Umm, I think they won a BCS playoff game before and Rose Bowls. Then he said they would have been in the playoffs if they had beaten Auburn, maybe, but Oklahoma would have been in the conversation too. The offensive pass interference NEVER gets called that way, the referee commentator sounded like he was making up shit to justify the call. The Wisconsin player was pushed into Herbert, no mention. There was also a goal-line replay showing Dye leading with his helmet and no mention.
Wisconsin fucked up with turnovers, but they dominated the game and it was never described that way, notice how the yardage discrepancy was rarely shown? Also, anyone notice the ESPN playoff commercial and the Ducks were in there with the elite programs? I’m starting to think fucking conspiracy!!!
Article on USC OL decommit Kyle Juergens. Says they told him to decommit because they didnt have room for him. So he decommits. Then they have a historically bad signing day and now he’a saying if they’ll have him back, he’d be happy to take a new USC offer.
Type of guy that’s going to get walked all over by his future ex-wife if he doesn’t show a little pride for himself.
If we had bona fide journalism, some reporter would investigate the incestuous relationship between ESPN, Nike, and the UO. The gambit is very much vertically integrated including, as some have noted above, the fact that the Duck is in every CFB promotion featuring mascots that ESPN runs. (That said, the Duck mascot executes a pretty funny choreography; probably scripted with help from Nike; a much better look than what OSU manages with Benny [who could use an update])
Ducks had 2 penalties for 20 yards. Wisconsin 9 for 79. Didn’t this end some kind of TD pass streak for Herbert? Quacks had 204 yards of total offense. As I said, Wisconsin screwed themselves with the turnovers but seemed like more going on to help the Quacks get the win.
The swoosh bags have gone to the Rose Bowl more in the last decade than ever before. I’m hoping that during this next decade we won’t see them in the Rose Bowl anymore and Crystal Nuts has reached his ceiling! I’ve heard the argument said that the d-cks success doesn’t hurt Oregon State being successful. I disagree. I think that team down south recent success has hurt OSU tremendously because OSU can’t keep up. Especially with all of the reasons mentioned above with all of the help the the d-cks are getting, it’s unbelievable! What do you guys think? Does uo’s success ultimately hurt OSU? Or does it even matter?
Breeze was all duck from early on. He had several family members who were alums, us his uncle is former duck player Chad Cota.
Chad’s son almost went to oregon too, but switched up to UCLA and Chip Kelly after Helfrich was let go at oregon.
Last night during the Belk Bowl, the announcers commented on how excited Hokie coaches were for transfer QB Braxton Burmeister! I almost choked on my beer.
But, if he is successful, would that be an indictment of the poor quality of the ACC or 0regon’s ability to develop talent in house?
MBB plays Utah tonight. Does anybody care?
In SLC, vs a 9-3 Ute team that has lost to Coastal Carolina, Tulane and SDSU so far this year.
Should be a winnable game, but I have zero confidence we will start the conference slate with a W on the road tonight.
Vegas has Utes as a -1.5 pt favorite.
I’ve heard so little talk about the MBB team this year.
It’s almost like the fan base has given in to the fact that this team will not make the NCAA tournament again.
How long do we just accept this team will be a middle of the road Pac12 team, at best, every single year?
Until Tinkle is gone. He’s had enough time to build a winner and it hasn’t happened. Basketball is not a sport where you need a long time to turn things around. I can’t believe we passed on Eric Musselman, Ben Howland, and Mike Hopkins.
I think Tinkle’s window of opportunity has passed. He had three top 100 players on his roster last year and the best he could get out of them was 18-13. He also hyped this year’s schedule and I just read an article that it’s the softest pre-conference schedule since he’s been here because a lot of teams they’ve played just aren’t good this season. I could see this imploding next year and I really hope I’m wrong.
I’d have to imagine BTD doesn’t pay much, if at all. They’re looking for new writers every couple of months. It’s a revolving door over there.
Would much rather be my own boss and provide recruiting info for free on Angry’s site than work for Yahoo for a few extra shekels.
All the people hating on the MBB team haven’t watched them or caught one of their bad games… They have the talent this year to win games but they still have the Wayne Tinkle coached consistently… they look really good when they are on, this is probably the most watchable team since Coach Tinkles first year… That being said, they have looked bad at times too, so it all depends on how consistent they can be… I am not holding my breath but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they have a good run in Pac 12 play.
I’m trying to give them a chance and actually watch tonight’s game. But the half effort I see so frequently with Tinkle teams is already showing. Plus both teams tonight are really sloppy. 10 turnovers in the first 10 minutes is not fun basketball to watch
It doesn’t help when they are shooting 1 for 10 from three-point land. Announcers said Reichle is shooting 12% over his last five games. More of the same shit.
They’ve spent almost the entire game trailing between 5 and 10 points. And anytime they get it down to 5, you can guarantee a dumb turnover(steps before dribble drive or driving into a double team) and then Utah’s 12 year old guard cans another open 3.
Maybe we should think about closing out on that kid once in awhile?
This is why I dropped season tickets this year, no consistency.
The first GP2 season was the best, then the coach went away from playing tough defense.
Thompson is a huge disappointment. He plays max minutes and is a non factor. He should be a leader and most of
the time you don’t even know he’s on the floor.
Here’s Thompson in a nutshell. He misses a wide-open, straight on three that would have tied the game in the second half and maybe given his team some life. Then he heads down the court and commits his fourth foul on some Utah scrub who shot an air ball layup on his first attempt and then out-fought two or three Beavers (including Thompson) for the offensive rebounds after that. Also, great second half from Lil’ Tinks, what did he score? About three points? Is this team going to win a conference game?
The upside view of an Oregon victory is that it might cause some of their underclassmen to declare. It would certainly weaken them for next year if guys like Scott, Faliou, Graham and Lenoir all bolt for a paycheck.
Dude, there are only two things that will make the Ducks weaker: 1) a major NCAA violation, or 2) Phil Knight kicking the bucket. And 1 won’t happen before 2.
But why bolt when you can get paid in other ways while going to college. It’s a good thing Cristobal and co can’t coach em up. I think they will be more like Utah next year. Strong defensively but inconsistent offensively.
Just tuned into the game – ho-hum. Tuned out. If anyone listens to the post-game, I think coach-speak will be, “they didn’t do what we told them to do.” Do the players ever practice making baskets?
Yes, OSU couldn’t hit their butts with a paddle and lost the game. However…it’s worth noting that Utah is a much better team than some people think and Coach K is a much better coach. There will be some other road losses in Salt Lake.
more vindication for Smith in Pullman. In tonight’s Gator Bowl, Tennessee, with a one point lead, was intending to go for it on 4th and 1, rather than punt to Indiana, with 1:40 left in the game, on their side of the 50!. A false start pushed it back to 4th and 6, so Tennessee punted it. Indiana took possession on about their own 20 with 55 seconds left, a little more time than WSU had when they took their final possession. Indiana doesn’t have the proficient offense that WSU, but made it to the 45 of Tennessee before time ran out.
and Minnesota went for it on 4th and won. Indiana doesn’t have nearly as proficient an offense as WSU and still moved the ball to within ten yards of game-winning field goal range, with no time outs and 55 seconds.. My point isn’t who won, rather, it’s the conventionality of the this kind of decision (Smith, Fluke, Tennessee [before the penalty]), not the radical proposition that some seem to think. It will only become more common and Smith is in the vanguard of this thinking. Good for him.
In other Tennessee related news: Darwin Barney hired to lead Triple-A Nashville Sounds, the affiliate of the Texas Rangers. The Sounds are in the same PCL division as the Omaha Storm Chasers, so some familiar environs for Barney!
No indication this will impact his involvement with the Portland Diamond Project
Worth a quick read, from the Scoop: “Nick Saban and his staff have a scouting report for officiating crews”
Probably never work with PAC zebras, only one identifiable tendency there…….foolishness!
Oh I don’t know about that. After reading it, clearly the writer has a masters degree in writing at work. The problem is us simpletons without a masters degree just don’t understand writing in general. I kid, I kid. This seems to be a growing problem, within the last 5 years. Articles posted online have become increasingly difficult to read , with all kinds of spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors. I may have to quit my job in a sawmill and become a writer to save the industry.
Some sad news to post here. A few months ago I shared that my mom won a $300 Safeway shopping trip with Coach Tinkle. He was very nice to her sharing about his childhood, family, etc. My mom donated the food to a family who’s father had stage 4 cancer. Last night, that person passed away. If any of you know Seith Raleigh (OSU alumni probably 2006 ish) he was a great, goofy guy. Worked at Block 15 for a bit and his dad is a project engineer with OSU. As we all know on here, cancer sucks really bad. I am saying a prayer for Seith, his family, and all of you guys affected by cancer in one way or another.
Way off topic… My employer has had a lot of turnover in management positions(including foreman) the last few years. They company fired a foreman a few weeks ago. I thought hey here’s my chance get out of my production position. So I go online and read the job posting. The company wants to give a starting salary of $45k a year and preferrs college education. I about shit myself when I saw that 45k a year. That’s around 15k less than I currently make on my production position. Needless to say I am not going to be applying for that foreman job.
I voted for Trump…but never again. Though the democrats all suck, so it’s going to be tough. I think I like Pete best, not Ringo, out of the group of confiscating goons.
I’ve come to accept the plight of a moderate is you’re always voting for a party not in power.
The funny thing is, war with Iran would kill Trump’s reelection chances. Very few people want a war, and there’s absolutely no narrative to justify it (yet).
Pete is the least offensive Dem because he’s well-spoken and refuses to commit to anything. He’s Obama 2.0 with even less practical experience. That just means he’ll surround himself with “experienced” DC folks (i.e. Swamp Monsters) like Obama did and his policy will be more of the same that has us slowly rolling toward the cliff.
I’m not sure what Pete would do, nor do I know if I’ll vote for him, but I can’t stomach any of the other dems. So it’s him or a write-in. Trump has swamp creatures (neo-cons and goldman sachs) all around him. He drained the swamp and filled an ocean.
He lost my vote when he begged the FED to cut rates (after rightfully criticizing them on the campaign trail). Want to talk about sending us off a cliff…
If Trump can stir up enough ‘instability’ in the Middle East without plunging into real war, he will dramatically help his reelection chances.
With Boeing tripping all over themselves, the energy sector is that last hope the US has for industrial growth. Oil prices don’t support that at today’s levels, but if Trump can figure out how to goose them, he’ll send a lot of people back to work and keep US GDP up for another few quarters. Crude oil demand isn’t going to drive high prices, so the only options are actual production cutoffs somewhere outside the US or Middle East political risk.
That’s a fine line to walk, though, and with psychopath Pompeo advising Trump, there’s little expertise in finesse in the War Room.
I’m not sure I agree higher oil is good for jobs. For a few people in that industry, but overall the higher input costs kill an economy. Cheap energy is a boon for the general economy.
It’s absolutely important for jobs in places where Trump needs votes (those that depend on the industrial/manufacturing portions of the economy). O&G is a major driver and has only gotten more prominent as US oil production grows. A lot of the machining capacity that was threatened by declining US auto production in the early part of the 2000’s was saved by the growth in oil production. Same with basic materials like steel.
Not to mention the coming wall of oil E&P debt coming due in the next few years. Higher oil prices will allow a lot of that to be refinanced. Otherwise, there will be a shock to the bond market that will require even more government intervention to avoid turning into contagion. Not sure if you’ve read about the record amount of BBB bonds out there, but the majority of those are energy firms with no chance of repaying it with their current FCF situations,.
I don’t think oil people are going to vote for Pete or Warren, so they already have the Trump vote. No? Seems no matter what oil jobs will vote for Trump. So if we do get a spike in oil, Trump gets hurt via an overall drag on the economy.
It’s not just “oil people.” It’s the industries that support oil production, which are very much swing votes due to historical connections to the auto industry, labor, etc.
I used to work in oilfield supply and we had customers and suppliers in all the swing states (Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, etc.) These weren’t “oil businesses,” but they had transformed over the years to supply the oil industry as manufacturing and industry left the US and their customer bases in other industries dwindled.
“But the rise of the United States to become the world’s second-largest oil producer has changed the calculus for how rising energy prices affect the economy. Consumer pain at the pump is now seen as an offset to an extent by increases in capital spending by U.S. oil companies and by gains in the growing number of regions producing energy. And what once would have been a massive surge in the oil trade deficit, which would subtract from gross domestic product, is now offset to a large degree by U.S. oil exports.
“We think the effect will round to a wash,? said Michael Feroli, chief U.S. economist with J.P. Morgan Chase. “Our prior modeling would likely have produced a slightly more adverse impact, perhaps annualizing to a quarter point off growth for two consecutive quarters.“
Now, Feroli sees a roughly 0.2 percent decrease from lower consumer spending offset by a 0.2 percent gain in capital spending.”
Another factor affecting Trump’s reelection would be whether or not he supports extending licenses/financially supporting existing nuclear power plants in those states (Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania). Turkey Point NPP in Florida was recently granted a license to extend the operating lifetime to 80 years, and is a potential site for Westinghouse’s AP1000 reactors.
Keeping the nuclear industry alive is what has helped cities such as Pittsburgh revitalize itself.
Assuming the Foreman position is less demanding, physically and mentally, than a production position, maybe this company is doing a good thing. Maybe they are putting more value on the workers in the trenches.
It is less demanding physically but not mentally. A lot more stress in the foreman position. Basically they are responsible for making sure our production meets the company goals, doing anything & everything they can to make sure that happens. We are a union outfit, so it kinda puts the foreman between a rock and a hard place. At any time the plant manager can come in and just fire the foreman for any reason. I couldn’t & won’t work with that kinda stress hanging over me for $45k a year. I might be greedy but I think the foreman should make a minimum of $70k a year…
Who is the butt wipe that down votes everything I post? I mean seriously, you gotta problem speak up and we can discuss it like adults. Or just keep doing what you have been and Jack off into your sock puppet as you hit that downvote.
Anybody seen any news links on duck WRs Jaylon Redd and Lance Wilhoite? Other than them not playing in the Rose Bowl?
Hearing sexual assault investigation rumors are making the rounds but I haven’t seen any substantial stories written about either yet.
The SnOregonian is class…Caption this iconic photo: Oregon Ducks’ Justin Herbert scores despite Rachad Wildgoose chase….You’d have thought the Ducks had just beaten LSU for the National Title. Instead, they beat a now 10-4 Whiskey team that lost to freaking Illinois but it was a “monumental” win for the Ducks. LOL over the 2nd place team in the Big 10…..just monumental.
Yeah they backed into that trophy – credit schmucks’ opportunistic defense, but Wisky gave that game away. Gotta wonder about that schmuck offense, it looks pretty bad.
Doing my best to re-create the Jack annoyance factor, I came upon this in today’s Wall Street Journal::
“Ten years ago, Belichick had a new idea. He didn’t come up with the idea to go for it on fourth down, but he was about to change the way the football world thought about it. The Patriots led the Colts 34-28 late in the fourth quarter, and in this high-profile showdown between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, New England faced fourth-and-2 from its own 28-yard line. The conventional wisdom was obvious. The next play would be a punt.
Belichick saw it differently: nothing would be crazier than willingly giving the ball back to Manning. So they tried to keep it, with Brady dropping back to pass. The completion fell short, Manning got the ball back anyway and the Colts scored the game-winning touchdown with 16 seconds left.
The results didn’t matter so much as the theory behind it. [Ahem; Where have we heard that before?] And the last decade has shown how this once-heretical decision has become conventional. Teams are going for it on fourth down more than ever, and Belichick has been ahead of the curve the entire time: Since 2005, the Patriots have gone for it 36 more times than expected, according to an NFL model that accounts for situational factors and league-wide behavior. That’s more than any coach in the league.”
Looks like Jonathan Smith is in pretty elite coaching company. And that includes FLECK, BeeG.
Belichick and Patriots revolutionized cheating too. Playing in the margins and grey areas of the rule book — the wide receiver eligibility fiasco against the Ravens three or so years ago comes to mind. Kraft is a slime ball and found his guy in like-minded Belichick and franchise QB Tom Brady. I hope JS will aspire to being above all that tom-fuckery (pun intended).
I had forgotten this:
Sports Illustrated: “August 13, 2001: In the 2001 college football preseason issue, the Oregon State Beavers, coming off an 11–1 season that ended in a thrashing of Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, were listed as the #1 team in the nation, with star running back Ken Simonton on the cover. The Beavers went on to have a 5–6 record with a less than stellar performance from one-time Heisman candidate Simonton.”
So its been 18 years since OSU was #1….
2001 preview from Sports Illustrated
https://www.si.com/vault/2001/08/13/308948/1-oregon-state-after-going-11-1-last-year-the-even-better-beavers-are-eager-to-take-a-shot-at-the-title
Wow. Some good laughs in there.
“There’s Derek Anderson, a 6’6”, 230-pound quarterback out of Scappoose (Ore.) High who runs a 4.7 40 and threw for 3,603 yards and 40 touchdowns last year. He chose the Beavers over Florida State.
Tim Lappano, who tries to remain calm while describing Anderson’s upside: “He’s got a gun. He throws with accuracy and with touch. Who knows where he can take this offense?”
4.7? Really?!? Touch? S-I wasn’t the only one exaggerating here.
They forgot to mention that he throws it accurately to the defender.
“Who knows where he can take this offense?”
A: The Insight Bowl.
For the ten yard dash.
That was a dumb prediction made before the period in history where sportswriters had any use for OL and defense. IIRC, it wasn’t the consensus view, either.
In today’s world, only the big name programs are ranked in the preseason, regardless of how good they were the year before. We never would have been ranked that highly nowadays.
Surprisingly arrogant talk from Jonathan in that 2001 article:
“We may not make as many big plays as we did in the passing game
last year,” says Smith, “but let’s face it–we’re not going to
need as many. Our running game’s going to be even better, and the
defense will be flying around again.”
Beavs were #11 in the preseason AP poll that year. I can’t imagine him talking like that today even if we were ranked in the top 10.
2001 team was better than their record, but they lost 5 road games! Ryan Cesca was the Choukair of his era, the longer he stayed with the program the worse he kicked. I know he cost them the USC game(and bowl eligibility) by missing a couple of chip shots and I think he lost the starting job his senior season. They played like crap against Fresno and UCLA and the rest of the games were close.
He missed a FG against UW that would have kept us undefeated and in the National Championship game.
Think Cesca’s having a beer with Serna somewhere? “You think YOU got problems, you guys weren’t even ranked at LSU…”
Beav in DE: he missed 2 kicks that game.
I think the Cesca kick in the Washington game was for a tie, but still, it would have kept alive the possibility of the win in OT. Serna missed three extra points against LSU which cost them the game, but then he never missed another one in his college career. What a weird stat. Luck O’ The Beavs.
To be fair, he was talking up other units, not himself.
Nice to see WBB being talked about as potential #1. The two CW games are going to get a lot of attention if both keep it together until then. Gill should be pretty loud for that one. A split seems likely.
The CW game won’t be the only loud one at Gill! PAC12 is so strong in WBB, gotta wonder if a two loss team will end up being conference champ and if two or more PAC teams will make it to the Final Four.
Taylor Jones and Kennedy Brown give Rueck options he hasn’t had for awhile, it will be interesting to see how he manages the first loss these two experience at this level. My bet is he’ll help ’em snap back.
Austin hall with the int for
Memphis. That guy has really hung around since his special teams days with the Beavs.
Nice to see a 32-year-old playing for a group of five program!
That’s what angry said about Luton! :)
Hudson
Looks like LSU is in.
Pretty decent bet.
ACC refs making PAC12 refs look competent.
I knew they’d win but jeez…destroying Ok.
5 TD passes before halftime?!? Crazy.
Looks like the need to limit the CFB playoff to three rather than expand to eight.
Jalen hurts today, down 56-21….10/26, 154 YDS, 1 INT, O TD
Was this supposed to be the best playoff matchup or Clemson/Ohio State? I’m a bit curious about Ohio State because Ryan Day was somebody I was wishing Oregon State would pursue after Andersen quit.
What assholes making this guy coach. On her way to the game…
“LSU Steve Ensminger Daughter in Law Dies in Plane Crash”
SEC is the absolute worst.
Not making him I think. He probably wants to.
Then that says a lot about him.
Keeping the mind occupied with other things can be helpful.
Clemson’s receivers are like Hodges, but can run fast.
I used to know what pass interference was. Not anymore. Looks like it should be called on just about every play to me.
Watching the LSU beatdown of Oklahoma made me wonder (1) why in the world they (Oklahoma) made the final four, and (2) think that Oregon is very lucky not to have been in the Okies place.
I think 1, 2, and 3 are in a class by themselves. I think no matter who was 4 they would have been beat like a drum.
Yeah, you’re probably right.
Ryan Day whines like a basketball coach
But makes a great call on 4th down.
And fails to go for 2.
A mistake, IMHO
QB can’t run because of the bad knee and Dobbins hobbled. If they were healthy, probably go for two.
True, long odds. But, that PAT isn’t gonna be a deciding factor, I would have taken the slim chance for 2 (but I’m not making the big $$$).
Clemson scored too quickly, they gave Ohio state way too much time. But LSU is going to destroy who ever wins this game anyway.
Fantastic game. Everything I had hoped for.
Are you being serious or sarcastic? : )
I didn’t see it so its a serious question. I checked the box score and see Clemson gave up nearly 500 yards to the starting QB and starting RB and still won.
Lawrence with about 366 total yards and 3 TDs.
There’s an odd convergence of pro or near-pro talent in the “final four,” with NCAA WWF officiating that just doesn’t sit well with me; its a convergence that usually robs the fan. How was the officiating tonight?
I watched most of the LSU/OU game and the ACC officials were hammered shit awful.
Regarding officiating, I was reading an article a year or so ago ( I can’t find it now), but the premise was that officiating at a high level (professional, major college) should be a younger person’s job. That the cognitive and physical skills needed to perform well start declining in one’s mid-40’s. I think it might have some merit when I see the fat old men officiating SEC and ACC games every week.
Completely serious. The outcome was in doubt to the final 37 seconds. Fantastic talent and coaching. The only blowouts I like to watch is if it a team I don’t like or if it’s the beavers kicking butt.
Ohio State f’d up so much and still had a chance at the end. The shitty 1st half against Wisconsin cost them the 1 seed and the easier path to the Championship game. Judging from the post game comments, God was for Clemson, so pretty tough to overcome that. Explains the fumble TD reversal?
I would guess there was a lot of praying on that sideline during the first quarter and a half.
“God OSU is good”. “God help us”. “God please don’t let Trevor be hurt”. :)
I think Clemson is the team to beat. Big test tonite for them. Toughened them up.
Clemson has been there, what, 4 0r 5 times straight? That should help. Not sure about the matchups. I know I’m not a fan of LSU. It was the OSU/LSU series in the baseball CWS debacle where I referred to NCAA as “WWF” officiating.
Clemson is going to get straight fucking murdered by LSU.
Eta: maybe dont listen to me as I’m getting straight fucking murdered in the pick ’em challenge. Holy shit!
Clemson will definitely need to get off to a strong start unlike last night.
I think it will be pick ’em or there about (+/-3 at the most).
Opening at -5.5 LSU. Im thinking -7 by game time.
Seems high. I’m thinking -3 by game time.
Ramblin’ thoughts, whadaya think?
1) Helton is gonna be looking for a new DC and SpTms coach, any reason for Niner to be concerned? Is this a situation where the culture in LA is so different from Corvallis that it’s unlikely anyone would want to move south?
2) Feelings on “atta boy” stickers on helmets? Clemson, tOSU, others use them, I’ve always felt plain is better. Heck, I even advocate leaving players names off of jerseys – make it all about TEAM.
3) Especially for Texasbeav: You best be cheering for Taylor Jones. That Texas gal has a bright future in Corvallis, what a start she has had.
1) Not really. I suspect USC will think it needs to make “bigger” hires than someone like Tisebar, who has made drastic improvements but whose numbers still look terrible. ST hasn’t look particularly special, I’m not sure why there would be a raid there. Poor FGs, not great coverage, not particularly special returns. As far as game changers, OSU special teams have mostly changed the game in the opponents favor. There was a few good onside kicks, but was there much else?
2) I actually kind of like them if there is a reasonably clear way to “earn” them. I do like leaving names off of jerseys though. And Nike symbols.
3) I hope she is contributing to more of a killer mindset. The “nice girls who shoot 3’s” was pretty spot on last year. Too get past the 16, they need a colder, killer mentality. What do you think, does she add mindset and character of that nature?
3) Too soon to tell about Taylor and, although he picks up “t’s” at a fair rate, Rueck doesn’t appear to emphasize killer in his recruiting. Kat Tudor stands out as one who does get “that look “ sometimes.
“nice girls who shoot 3s” Ah, Lindsay Schnell -also known for “no airport Corvallis”. She was right. I applaud SR’s success. Striving to be politically correct, I have stifled – hmm, these young women appear to all look alike – thoughts. I think Jamie Weisner was a killer, however.
Screw atta boy stickers to wear on their helmets, I make my wardaddies wear another pair of big boy pants for every great play!!!
I would think it would be tough to get a decent hire if Helton is perceived as a dead man walking.
Not much of a sticker guy. I like the names on the jersey so I know who I am looking at.
I watch and cheer on the wbb. Love the way they play as a team. Cannot stand to watch the men play. Have watched very little of them since GP2 left.
Taylor Jones will be something special and we won’t have to wait for her senior year to see it. Could be as soon as next year.
No names on jerseys no thx. Which teams that have done well recently have practiced that motto?
Has Molest U ever had names on their jerseys?
Which molest u? The Dame- no. Penn state- yes.
Looking ahead at the Pac12 WBB schedule, the end of January looks pretty brutal.
Sun Jan 19th hosting Stanford
Fri Jan 24th at oregon
Sun Jan 26th hosting oregon
At least 2 of those are home games, but playing 3 top 5 matchups in 8 days is a tall order.
I never liked how we play Oregon back to back.
Same here. Dumb to play back to back games against the same team over the course of 3 days
Don’t forget the AZ trip the weekend before Stanford. Both are tough now.
I’m not a fan of the Oregon games the same weekend either but if we can make it to that weekend undefeated, everyone will be watching that weekend and it will be amazing publicity for the program.
A little under the radar. Cal’s Wilcox is quietly purging the offensive side of ball. After underperforming this year he has “encouraged” Beau Baldwin to look elsewhere and was not going to renew his contract. Baldwin, whom many here once thought would be the Beavs coach, lands at Cal Poly as head coach, minus roughly $400,000 in annual income. He takes with him, to Cal Poly, a running backs coach, who will earn about $150,000 less and O-Line coach Greatwood “retires.” Three openings there.
Lots of assistant jobs available on Pac-12 staffs right now. UW, UO, Cal, SC to start.
You updating your resume?
Ha ha ha ha. Dude couldn’t cut it as an OC at a P5 school. Yet some around here had a boner for this guy.
It looks like LSU did open at -3 as I figured.
“Caesars Sportsbook installed LSU as a 3-point favorite over Clemson late Saturday night, but the line grew quickly and eventually settled at LSU -5 at most sportsbooks.”
Seems recency bias (i.e. bias of LSU’s blowout) has made people forget Clemson is just as good, if not better. I’d take Clemson at the current -5.
Not sure… Ohio State had that game if not for committing multiple bonehead penalties at the worst times.
Ohio State is great, though. I’m sure there are a million “ifs” on the Clemson, side, too.
I don’t really care about the game and probably won’t even watch. But I have seen both Clemson and LSU, and they look pretty even based on what I saw.
Lsu has been dominant on both sides of the ball all year. Clemson has two weeks to prepare though. I think LSU will win by two scores so either way that could be 6 or 14. They don’t kick many field goals. If Clemson waits almost a half to start moving the back they will be down by a good amount.
Anyone follow the stock market? Seems we’re about to enter blow off top phase. Buy puts.
Been a great year for my portfolio. Didn’t hold onto Tesla long enough but Musk is wild so who knows.
And, beyond gold, where to park the proceeds?
What’s your guess as to outlook for REIT’s?
Silver and Platinum
Why not carrot futures?
Guitars.
I have no idea on REITs. You’d think RE is at a top, but if people keep taking on roommates to buy homes maybe investors can pick up a few more nickles in front of the bulldozer. Wages sure don’t support prices.
Stocks can eek out another 10% this year via a blow off top. I’m bailing now and looking to go short, though. If the VIX goes under 11 buy puts, ya’ll. Market is super overbought per the technicals. What’s interesting is we’re seeing the VIX rising as the market rises. Vix should be dropping. This means people are nervous and buying insurance, showing a lack of conviction in this latest move. Meanwhile, the “Greed Index” is at 93, highest ever. So we truly do have morons picking up their last nickles in front of a bulldozer here.
Silver and Platinum
Some issues with both being industrial metals and US being due for recession. Both are much smaller markets, too, so more volatility. That’s why I prefer gold. Since I recommended gold in March/April around $1300ish it’s moved to $1515. About 17%. Not a bad move if anyone listened. We’re about to see the second leg of that move. There’s almost zero resistance on the chart between 1500 and 1900. I expect it to get to around $1650 on this latest move.
I was only half serious about the silver and Platinum. Silver has always been held artificially low, so it offers stability. Not alot of gains or losses. Platinum on the other hand does have up cycles, but the gains aren’t near as good as gold and the losses make it riskier.
Carrot futures? I can get behind that!
Honestly all my stuff is really conservative, no big gains but no real losses.
I have recently got into silver and gold. I personally feel it is getting close and the $ bill is backed by nothing. Therfor the only thing I can personally think of was precious metals.
I know a lot of people here love capitalism and I don’t want to start the debate but the corporate capitalism we live in currently is not a sustainable way of life for a country. I really like a Marxist form of economics which is a democracy at the work place not just elected officials. Chris hedger is a extremely intelligent person that I thoroughly enjoy as is democracy at work on YouTube.
But either way what happened with the stock market that makes you say this?
I think it’s been up for like 12 straight days, and the technicals scream overbought. Only way out of that is a big correction or stocks trade sideways for months as earnings catch up. If we melt up more from here, great, I’m looking for the VIX sub 11 to put on a massive short position.
What is frustrating me is the VIX is rising as stocks rise. Makes it hard to get a good price on options and short it. This shouldn’t happen and suggests market participants lack confidence in the latest move and are simply following the heard (greed index of 93, all time high). We should get at least a 10% correction soon (or about 6 to 8 months of sideways movement as earnings grow into these new multiples). Those are base case and most probable. It’s possible we have 1999 all over again and just blow a Peter North size load right now — I’d put that around 20%, but I am seeing the behavior (retail executing market orders) and sentiment (water cooler talk) is growing to support/suggest something like that. Also, I don’t think the market is discounting possibility of a Trump loss. In fact, the (stock market) odds are all suggesting a landslide victory…makes a very good opportunity for someone with the guts to take the other side of the masses’ trade.
FED might buy stocks. That would be a game changer. I think it’s likely, but not until the next massive crash.
@Chris, if you don’t mind sharing, what vehicle(s) did you use to get into gold and silver?
Probably a Yugo.
I bought gold from ajpm. They have all prices listed online and it adjusts all day with the stock market. Ajpm.com is where I looked and have gone in to get exact lunch as advertised. Silver I have gone to a couple places in Vancouver fidelity coin is one. The only thing tricky the silver is I have bought several small amount ( 1oz, 2 oz etc..) and when purchasing small quantities you pay more per oz and as it goes up it’s closer to “spot” pricing. Meaning 1 oz is say $17 per oz in the stock market, they will sell for day $18.50 but 2 oz you can get for 18.25 and 10 oz you can get for $17.50. Those are examples but I think it’s understandable.
I am with angry and believe gold is the best problem is it’s expensive $1550ish per oz stock currently. I think gold is going to be a great asset. Although silver has potential to get up to $50 an oz, but I would say $30ish is pretty realistic within a year or 2.
Gold trades on the commodities exchange (Comex) not the stock market. But I know what you mean.
To get spot you buy off Craigslist. To negotiate something very close to spot you go in-person and talk with a local coin shop. If you buy online, expect about a 7% premium though that changes with demand. Higher demand = higher premium. Bullion carries the lowest premium.
Since gold and silver gains are taxed at the “collectables” rate, you really have to get premiums low. Though, honestly, from what I hear nobody pays those collectable rates. They are there to dissuade buyers and keep people in dollars.
Regarding price, there’s no limit on either. Just look at gold prices in other currencies. They are at all time highs in about seven major currencies. The Venezuelan/gold chart is very interesting, and I suggest everyone take a look at that chart and gold in other currencies. Right now the dollar is benefiting from being world reserve currency, and it’s the only thing keeping gold in check in the U.S. So it’s not about what price gold and silver hit, but it’s about how much purchasing power it retains. Silver could go to $50 or it could go to 10k or 20k if we print enough (and we have/are, it’s just velocity (circulation speed) is on the slow side right now for various reasons. There are several things that can trigger that circulation increase. Fiscal stimulus would be one). We don’t want high gold and silver prices. That’s a bad, bad world. You buy it because governments are headed down that path, but you don’t wish for it.
I’d add that royalty companies are another way to play gold. I prefer them over mining shares because they simply get a royalty on a mine without all the risks. Franco Nevada, Sandstorm Gold, Silver Wheaton, Osisko Gold, and Metalla are a few I like, with the latter two being more speculative, but they have good royalty assets bought on the cheap and are growing.
A final point is that silver usually follows gold and outperforms gold. This is because the masses can’t afford gold (you can buy 1/10th OZ) so they go for silver, and since silver is such a smaller market than gold the price rises faster. The downside of that is the reverse is also true, and also that silver is half monetary metal and half industrial metal, so the industrial aspect could be pulled down in recession. I still like it, but one should know the strengths of each. Gold is mostly pure monetary metal except a few uses in areospace and dentistry (and of course, jewellery, though IMO that’s monetary).
In contrast to Gold, Silver is on steriods. Both going up and going down
Thanks, Chris.
I do not think Marxist means what you think it means. Marxism/socialism/communism all lead to a small wealthy governing class and poverty (at best) for the masses. At the foundational level, these utopian trains of thought encourage the worst behavior in people and form bureaucracies that cannot react in a timely manner and are typically corrupted. Centralized power corrupts time and time again…human nature. In it’s purest form capitalism (aka freedom) harnesses the desire for personal achievement, allows decision making at the lowest levels (efficiency), does not require bureaucracy, (however many times develops associations for the benefit of all, yet membership is not required…a beautiful thing as ineffective organizations die) and has created the best economic engine. most prosperity, and supported the most powerful military in the history of mankind.
No system is perfect – Mega corporations who have been allowed to pervert the system (crony capitalism) with the willing help of dirt bag politicians (Dems and RINOS like Mittens) and foreign government influence (looking at you China). The common theme here is bureaucracies kill efficiency. Marxism Socialism and Communism fail again and again. The unstoppable force of a free market (“capitalism”), even with the relatively recent drag of bullshit social programs from Pres. Wilson on, is the best there is as clearly shown by history.
Something people have incorrect is that inflation is good for stocks. You see all these idiots on TV cheering on rate cuts/inflation. Deflation while the FED is printing/trying to inflate (which is what we have) is good for stocks because corps can buy back shares (there has been zero earnings growth, only share reduction to keep P/Es in line, since 2014), but the kind of inflation they want destroys stocks (dollar denominated) in any real terms. Sure, they will rise in nominal terms, but they will buy nothing in real terms. Yields very susceptible to erosion in that scenario, too, as you wait 3 months to be paid worthless currency. People are piling into utilities and blue chips for yield. Going to be a big loser. Gold is the biggest winner, but my guess is governments will enact a windfall profit tax on gold gains, so those smart enough to see the end game might have to hold it through a paradigm shift and friendlier times to realize any gain or maintenance of their purchasing power.
The inflation they’re targeting will wipe out anyone on fixed income, too. If you’re on fixed income, figure out a strategy now while there’s a little time. Own a business if you can. Best protection. After that, hard assets and income producing assets.
Please correct me if I’m wrong cause the stick market is only a passing interest to me these days. With all the stock buy backs aren’t many large companies decently positioned for a retraction or recession? It seems like they will have to answer to their investors less and have more assets to leverage. Following that train of thought it seems like correction should be localized to the stock market and not terrible for the economy as a whole.
That said if the economy is affected the tarrifs, messed up trade and low interest rates give almost no course for correction except massive federal investment as a stimulus.
Those buy backs mean tons of debt on their balance sheet. Corp debt is at all time highs. I wouldn’t say that’s a decent position to be in. Especially if rates have to rise to fight off inflation…(that the FED is actively trying create in order to monetize massive government debt). Buying back a share isn’t an asset. It just retires the share (they don’t have to pay a dividend on it, and their P/E ratio rises, justifying a higher stock price). No asset. The debt needed to buy the shares is actually a liability.
Tarrifs are a huge nothing burger that the algos have fallen for about 100 times. China just ships their product to Australia first, who then ship it here. There are no tariffs. It’s Trump appealing to his base.
Regarding if a downturn in stocks effects the overall economy, that has a ton of variables. Hard to say. But in general, stock market downturns have sentiment shifts, and sentiment shifts result in new behavior.
Agree next huge stimulus is going to be fiscal spending.
There is definitely tariffs. There is work around but even if it’s synthetic the real price for goods has increased. It’s caused serious issues in construction where I have my finger on the pulse.
Thanks for the explanation on buy backs. Looks like it’s gonna be a shitty one.
Are you sure those price increases are tariffs? FED has printed 360 billion since September. That money flows into all kinds of things. It could be simply inflation showing up in your industry. Everything I have read says China bypasses via shipping elsewhere. Having read a lot about China, that makes sense with their M.O.
Construction cost was rising before the tariffs, from memory…
I edited my comment above — you’re dead on next stimulus is going to be huge and fiscal. If you don’t count the FED doing repo (QE4) right now as stimulus. They claim it isn’t…either way, whatever comes after they fail with QE4 will be huge and fiscal.
Very sure. Lumber has increased 5-15% over inflation, steel (rebar, hardware, nails, screws) is 10-30% depending on how specific it is and where else it’s manufactured. Tools and consumables (blades and such) increased 5-10% in 2019. It could just as easily be companies taking advantage. Tariffs are more than China too, they have been thrown all over Central and South America, canada, asia and so forth. Prices are also set on prediction of future costs so just because they are slapped on and removed doesn’t mean the real cost doesn’t change…when companies see the profits they don’t bring them back down.
Cost has increased steadily since 2010 but it’s gotten extreme in the last year. For the first time since the Korean war steel roof and siding is more expensive than alternatives.
What’s interesting about the fiscal side is it would result in immediate and massive inflation. (Lack of) Velocity of the currency is the reason we’re not getting that, despite the FED printing almost 5 trillion in currency over a decade. If the money goes into banks and sits in their coffers it can’t circulate at a rate fast enough to create rising prices. The inflation is in their coffers waiting to be unleashed. That said, if you take that same 5 trillion and put it into a fiscal package, you’d get the money in the masses’ hands rather than the banks, and since people love to spend, the velocity would be fast, causing hyperinflation. So while fiscal would stave off a technical recession for a little while as the currency works through the market, it would also create an inflation so high it would likely send us into an inflationary depression. People need to be careful what they wish for. Given the government is desperate and stupid, my guess is they will try fiscal stimulus after the FED monetizing government debt fails. So I think we need another big crash before we see fiscal. Interestingly, though, you’re seeing the narrative on major networks change to how “We’re at the end of the line of what monetary policy can do”, and they follow that up with talk of fiscal. Seed planting. So it might be here sooner than I think. Super bullish for gold and to a degree Real Estate (other than property tax/utilities, but the fixed debt will be wiped out). Bearish for stocks, bonds, and cash. The only bullish case I can think for stocks in that scenario is the inflation wipes out balance sheet debt, but the banks and hedge funds on the other end of that would fail. A default/restructuring of debt without massive inflation would be cleaner, but we don’t seem to want that option. We want the…dare I say…nuclear (!) option.
Good comment all around, and spot on.
It could just as easily be companies taking advantage.
Exactly.
Prices are also set on prediction of future costs
Exactly, again.
Cost has increased steadily since 2010 but it’s gotten extreme in the last year.
I think a lot of that is inflation. If you look at how government inflation was tracked in the 1970s when we almost had hyperinflation, by that metric yearly inflation is running over 10% now. They’ve just changed how they calculate it, and basically remove anything that goes up, which is how they keep saying it’s under 2%. It’s not. Maybe the lumber industry is just smart and figured that out, and adjusted accordingly.
whatever comes after they fail with QE4 will be huge and fiscal.
So, buy Caterpillar shares on any pullback??
I too have a pulse on Construction(Electrical goods mainly) from my line of work. I can guarantee you, my company is not taking advantage of our customers. In fact, we are doing the opposite. We are being upfront on which manufacturers and what products are being increased at what time. We do pass on the increases to the customer who then passes the increase onto their customer. When the Tariff’s cease, things will settle back down to what the market levels should be so long as the manufacturers and their reps are ethical. Pre-buying goods ahead of a tariff increase only is beneficial to my end user, not us. The reason why is because we cannot sit on inventory at one cost and then when we buy again, we don’t sell at the new cost of goods. There are those out there that will pre-buy and sell at that cost until their goods are sold and then buy more at the new price to try and give better pricing to their customers, but the larger corporations will have a harder time being able to do that than the smaller businesses would in this regard.
@angry………did you change your mind about Caterpillar? Got other ideas about playing infrastructure spending?
I think CAT is a good idea for that scenario, but it would have to drop about 25-30% to be attractive…
Don’t think we see infrastructure spending until we get a crash of some kind, so I wouldn’t hold it here and wait at these valuations. Dead money at these prices in the current paradigm, IMO. But, nothing I say is financial advice — just opinion.
Consider that bonus depreciation for equipment caused many Construction companies to revamp their fleets the last few years. Agree with Angry there is no push for infrastructure spending at this time as the economy is humming along.
I’ve noticed the drop in velocity of money as well which I don’t have an answer for yet. Wages have been increasing for the first time in 20 years – IMO very much thanks to the tariffs, which are effective and necessary. “Hurts muh lower class” is bullshit propaganda from open border and cheap labor corporations. Nike shoes are more expensive then ever, a Traeger Grill isn’t any cheaper, and a Skilsaw Model 77 isn’t cheaper – all sold out to foreign manufacturing. Labor costs down, corporate profits up, and the “Lower Class” doesn’t have shit for jobs or wage growth. Cool, you saved $2 on your made in China socks and lost a buck an hour on wages (probably more). TaRriFs DoN’t WeRk aNd HeRt tHe LoWeR CLaSs from the parrots doing bidding for International Corps and their paid off politicians
Lumber was direct reaction to the Canadian tariffs and rumors. Tariffs are dangerous to economies because companies react even on rumor of a new tariff. US construction gets huge amounts of high quality lumber for beams and long span members from Canada. The inflation is true but the companies that raised prices are literally quoting tariffs as the reason/excuse. Same deal for steel but the countries vary more.
The pain is really being felt for low income and simple housing. The price of a pole home or barn went up 30-40% unless you change from classic materials (which is still a 15% increase). It’s rough all around.
The CPI stats from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics does not support your claims alluding to double digit increases (much less 5%). I am also in construction, and while items have certainly increased, it appears to be more metal related…which there isn’t much of by volume in low class housing. The raw material increases also do not appear to be much over standard year over year price increases.
I’m going off estimates from suppliers, complaints from my builders, and endless material change requests due to costs. Low income housing still has plenty of nails, rebar (I hope), brackets and hangers. Due to the nature of the usage changes in cost of build are painful.
I’m glad people believe CPI stats from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Helps make my life easier.
This might have already been mentioned and you probably already know that OL is closing down its comments section. I suspect some of the Duck trolls will try to gain entry into this Beaver blog and some of them are downright assholes. I’m hoping that as owner of this blog, you won’t permit those doofs to infiltrate this site and ruin it like they did on OL.
Why’d they shut down comments?
Regarding bans, it’s a case by case thing. Right now there are zero bans. I removed all (two) a few months ago.
Their explanation was it was too costly to monitor and remove bad comments….took too many resources. I think it’s a bad move by them and they’ll soon find that out because lots of articles, not just sports related, will feel the impact of fewer clicks. Frankly, I’m glad they made the decision but always enjoyed some of the good nature back-n-forth between Ducks and Beavers. However, a few on both sides took it too far with personal attacks and rude comments and I think that was a major contributing factor.
Anyway, just thought I’d put it on your radar screen. Happy New Years.
Sounds like they’re laying people off. Maybe if they wrote better articles they’d actually get readers.
Get woke, go broke.
I dunno, when Fox, CNN and Yahoo are the most popular news sites I don’t think quality writing is associated with profitability anymore. In fact it seems like in a lot of areas of business anymore providing a quality good or service isn’t a winning recipe on its own.
anymore providing a quality good or service isn’t a winning recipe on its own.
OTOH………Swoosh?
Angry has always had a free speech approach, the best way to discourage trolls is to simply ignore them. In large part this has worked here.
I’ll always suspect the big zero felt childish back and forth in their comment sections was good for clicks. If they have actually eliminated comments I guess I was wrong.
Not totally free. I banned an asshole who was glad/taunting when someone’s loved one died, and I also banned some creepy people who love sock puppets. It takes a lot, though! You know you’re the dregs of society of you get permanently banned here.
I wouldn’t quite call my special friend a “sock puppet” (yet anyway), so thanks for letting me stay! Regarding, the O-Live ban, I guess we will be the only ones able to call out Canzano’s hypocrisies going forward. Currently, he keeps writing the same bromance opinion piece on Cristobal over and over again without saying anything new. Apparently, Marco is now going to be the savior of the P-12, hallelujah!
Some of the comments were informative and reasonable but a few on both sides took things too far.
I think closing down commenting sections is becoming the norm. You don’t see it often anymore. You read the article and then can’t say something behind the protection of your screen. Reading comments/commenting always takes me to a place where I second guess why I’m spending my time reading them. I don’t compare it to reading comments on a blog since it’s not just people spouting off. RIP OL, haven’t cared about you for a very long time, Even before the Luke thing it was very one sided.
As One Old Beav pointed out, Taylor Jones showing her potential in the non-conference win today: 16 points, 13 rebounds, 6(!) blocks.
Happy new year from Disneyland……for someof us.
The whiskey report says this place sucks ginormous donkey cocks. It is not the “happiest place on earth”. I think i dealt with my yearly quota of crying children today and none of them were mine.
If you like crying babies, entitled Californians, long lines, 2 hour wait times for rides and overpriced food and crap? This IS the happiest place on earth.
This trip has been an unmitigated cluster fuck of a disaster from day 1. Our truck pulling our trailer broke down in Weed, California leaving us stranded there overnight. Only Whiskey pulling a rabbit out of his ass got us a rental truck out of Redding capable of pulling our travel trailer down here on day 2. You’re welcome family.
Over worked, over tired, underappreciated, underfed and a total twat of a new wife today is leaving a lasting impression of absolute shit on this trip and has me longing for the simplicity of home.
Dear Portland, you should take some advice from the LA/So Cal area on dealing with traffic. I’d much rather drive in this shit hole than yours.
Happy new years and hoping for a better 2020 for beaver sports and you AB degenerates aa well.
My end of day rant.
Angry old whiskey out. See you in 2020.
Peace bitches…..
Sounds like you should have driven the Family Truckster. How was your visit with cousin Eddy and what did you end up doing with Aunt Edna?
The HiLo cafe in downtown Weed California use to have all you can eat ribs every Wednesday. It was pretty good. I’m sure the few times I ate there, i almost bankrupted them.
And Disneyland has always sucked, it’s not a new thing. I remember going around 1990 and it was like that. I have zero desire to go back, and thank god my oldest girls are pretty much over the Disney princess phase.
The concerning part here is your new wife is a twat. That’s not good!!
Ha yeah no thanks to Disneyland. My brother/sister in-law take my niece and nephew down there every other year or so. It sounds terrible.
Hell I was stationed a couple miles down the road for 4 years and never went. Fuck all that.
Even as a kid I didn’t like Disney. Never understood the appeal. Some of the really old movies are impressive just to see what they could do without technology. That’s about it. I lived near Disneyland for a decade and never even had the notion to go. Went to DisneyWorld when I was ten because the family made me go, and it was okay, but never would go back.
“total twat of a new wife”? Jesus Christ.
Hopefully she doesn’t read AB. Awkward….
Next time, (because you know there will be a next time as long as you’re still married) fly into Santa Ana, catch an uber and stay at a hotel within walking distance of the parks. The cost isnt much more and it is worth every penny in time/headaches/marriages saved.
We went down there in May and had a great time and everybody wants to go back already.
Same with us. We stayed at the park and that makes all the difference. If anyone is tired or needs a break they can just head up to the room. Also get the Max Pass for your phone. You can obtain fast passes without having to go to the ride / attraction then head over when your time window is open. All but eliminates waiting in line. We went about a year ago and overall it was a good time.
Staying at the park is definitely the best option if available. Can be real speedy though, especially once adding 3 day park hoppers, etc…
We’ve stayed at good neighbors directly across the street that end up being about the same distance walk (unless you stay at Grand Californian.) the last couple times and it’s been fine. Kinda like Vegas but for kids: only at the room when sleeping. So $190 a night instead of $500 – 700.00.
I’d say the mobile app. fast pass is a game changer. If you work it right you never have to wait more then 20 minutes for a ride. If you don’t pay the extra $15.00 for access to that then you’re kinda dopey and should just stay home. Have Bill Engval give you a sign.
Also: if you need car seats and don’t want to travel with (we don’t) then I found a shuttle service actually through SNA that was very reasonable/about the same as an Uber. Ran by a bunch of old Persian dudes that were funny.
“It’s a small world….”
One lucky little lady!
You know it’s a rough trip when the one positive takeaway is LA/SoCal traffic. Hope Whiskey survives the trip home
No shit!!!
WhiskeySoakedDivorce?
This is going to sound bad, but the most fascinating thing I observed about both Disneyland and Disney World was the thousands-strong contingent of massive “guests” in their electric scooters cruising from place to place, in and out of lines, darting into secret doors to become first in line. It says something about our country, but I’m not sure what?
So true. When did obesity become a legitimate handicap?
And with perks like line cutting and better parking spots included?
And some of the people on the scooters just hit the accelerator and expect everybody to move out of their way. My daughter nearly got steamrolled by one and the I could see the driver bitching to themselves about people in her way.
Some people are obese because of disabilities. I’m borderline disabled and I can tell you it doesn’t make working out or active life easy.
That makes sense, but I think it’s a trend that cant be explained by just a higher rate of disabled people than past decades.
This is just an observation from someone who has been visiting these parks every few years since the early 80’s. The number of carts rolling around those places is suddenly exploding. I think part of it is people have been rewarded by shorter lines, so they abuse the resources available to them.
I’m going with changes in motorized cart technology being part of the change. I could imagine before motorized wheel chairs were so common, the idea of manually maneuvering a wheel chair through a theme park kept a significant portion of the disabled population from even wanting to make the trek. But as they became motorized and more readily available, more disabled people are visiting because they can get around more easily.
A few years ago I had surgery on my left knee. Part of my release directions was no weight on my left leg for 8 weeks. So if I needed to go shopping it was crutches or those scooters. I was absolutely amazed at how many overweight people used them ( they may have had disabilities, I don’t know) and at the time it really pissed me off that most of the time I wasn’t able to use one because of the overweight people were using them. Imagine an Angry Carrots trying to get down store isles on crutches, trying to be polite saying excuse me can I get by just to have people move 3-4 inches. I think I yelled at more people in those 8 weeks than my entire life.
That’s legit. We are also living longer and have less healthy life styles. That trends towards being in terrible shape. I guess my point is you never know what someones life is just by looking. I have aggressive psoriatic arthritis, when flaring late in drug cycle I have to lay down to get down stairs and wiggle. When not flaring mid cycle I can run acouple painful miles and walk normally. I live in constant pain but only my wife can tell from my body language and face.
Lots of quiet challenges out there.
Since Disney is still on our minds, has anybody seen video from this fight last year in toon town? It’s magical.
It’s pretty unbelievable how one dude essentially bests the shit out of his entire family while their kids cry and watch it all go down.
And security has their hands tied because they don’t have the authority to physically subdue somebody for fear of lawsuit.
This video has a ton to unpack, and even includes multiple scooters as Mckalk mentioned.
One hero guest comes in and chokes the big dude out towards the end and then smartly bounces and goes about the rest of his day.
Nobody wants to spend the rest of their day answering questions from authorities.
https://youtu.be/PLejINFofS4
After getting back up after being choked out, you can hear the pissed off big dude in the pink shirt asking where the “bitch ass n….” who choked him out went.
My guess is he got the f out of toon town and I don’t blame him
Happy National Bacon Day.
I had a BLT in honor of…
Anyone interested in going to any of the away baseball games other than Surprise, AZ tournament? I’m debating going for the 3 game series in Stillwater, OK and/or the football game against OK State.
Brother and I are going to Mississippi State – we have gone to Surprise the past two years and enjoyed the games, (weather was bad both years – cold the first year, rain last year). Thought it would be fun to see the program at MSU – the stadium is unreal, based on what I’ve seen on TV. Should be about 10-12 of us going.
We’ve been to football games at Michigan, Minnesota and Dallas, (when the Beavs played TCU in the season opener), and have held back the past few years…maybe a trip to Stillwater this fall?
Thinking about MSU.
I was just looking at Football head coach salaries in the Big 12 (Curious as to what Matt Rhule makes and what his buyout might be – I figure he will jump ship to the NFL this year as he never misses an opportunity to interview with any team that comes calling). I think all 10 of them make more than Niner. Is the Pac 12 behind all the other power 5?
I went to the WBB game yesterday vs. Bakersfield and noted that Andrea Acquino wasn’t with the team and not showing up on the pre-game videos. I wonder if she has medically retired? Or maybe she was home for the holidays since she’s unable to play?
Bronco Mendenhall has Virginia in the Orange Bowl. He wanted the OSU job when GA got it. Glad we have Smith but wonder what Bronco would have done at OSU.
He was my #1 pick that hiring cycle.
I was hoping for him or either Beau Baldwin. Looks like BB would have probably been a whiff but not Bronco. I like JS though so and hindsight is always 20-20.
I wasn’t into Baldwin. https://angrybeavs.com/football/10681
BTW, the people who don’t want Bronco Mendenhall are crazy, imo. He’s the Tinkle of this hiring cycle. He is an asset instead of liability (Riley) and would have a +1 or even +2 win variant per year. I get the lure of taking a shot on Wells and the young guys, but BM would be a home run.
Some of the comments are interesting. Matt Wells…what happened to that guy? I guess I can just google it.
Wells led Utah State to a 10-2 and 1st place in the Mountain West in 2018 amd got hired away by Texas Tech. Went 4-8 his first year there.
I think he will be successful at Texas Tech. He has them playing defense which is something new. Pretty good recruiting class as well.
The Tinkle comment has not aged well.
Yeah. I was high on Tinkle at one point…
So was I……
The all-time, worst-ever “luck of da beavs” was Gary Andersen. It wasn’t like losing a game on the last play or injuries to the best players. It was long-term like the 1918 flu epidemic or the potato famine.
Irish need not apply?
Don’t know if anyone has noticed but Deanna Colwell, Director of Operations for the OSU WBB, is super hot. She’s even prettier in person than in her picture on OSU WBB Roster. I think I’m in deep love with her (LOL). I was sitting behind the bench just a few rows up and she caught me drooling over her and she gave me kind of a smile that suggested, “okay perv, stop undressing me with your eyes.” LOL. Seriously, she is one gorgeous lady that I’m going to gave Nick McWilliams introduce me to (he told me he would so…..). Oh yummy!
Cold shower, fella.
I know right?
Great Swammi is going to be beating the Great Salami tonight.
Lol
Does that have anything to do with the sock puppets you mentioned earlier?
Oh sure, take a true love story and turn it into something dirty….sounds good to me though. LOL
Keeping with the Disney theme. Took my daughter when she was 5. She is now 30. Never again. The amount of rude people cutting lines was enough for me to come to that conclusion. Teaching your kids to wait their turn is hard when so many were assholes. I think manners are not necessary taught all over the world. I will leave it at that. Unfortunately my wife is thinking a trip with the grandkids is great idea. God help me.
Happy new year to all. Hoping the badgers give us a great start to the year by rolling the zeros.
Pull them out of school and go in the offseason – End of April, Early Oct, Mid Nov, Mid January. Stay away from 3 day weekend holidays (Presidents day). I was told by an employee at Universal studios in Florida that the slowest week of the year is the week after Thanksgiving.
You’ve got it right, always book traditionally slow times. I’ve been to Disneyland several times and we booked the week after Thanksgiving one time and the 2nd week after New year’s day another time. A third time we went in July ( brutal mistake). I really recommend staying at one of the hotels in the park too, lots of perks.
In the finance community there’s a lot of talk about a cashless society. It got me thinking we’re now in month 9 of a Jack-less society.
I hope he’s just in jail.
My guess is a 4 year sentence for battering a Bircher, which should get us just about through Trump’s second term.
He never had a chance, the motorcycle ramp wasn’t steep enough. He plunged right into the side of that canyon and probably didnt feel a thing. Too bad Vernon Adams was doing his launch calculations.
Virginia is playing hard but I don’t think they will be able to keep up with Florida
As long as they cover. Which they did.
Actual quote here from Cristobal at Rose Bowl media day. This is pretty laughable.
Am I reading this out of context? Did he turn FIU into conference champions too? I have no idea, but I hope that is what he means.
“Q. Throughout your career, people have doubted you. Even getting this job, people may have questioned (inaudible). What do you think you’ve proven and continue to prove?”
COACH CRISTOBAL: ……..We never had anything handed to us. We just grinded and worked. Together with a couple of the staff members here, we took over the worst situation in Division I football, made it a conference champion…..
Lol, yeah the worst! Nothing handed to them except a full compliment of 4/5* players. What a jackoff.
Not to mention the swoosh
The worst situation in D-1 football? What the fuck is that dilrod talking about? I can’t wait until he flames out.
He fits right in with that group of tool bags
At FIU he won the Sun Belt with a 7-6 record. His first season the team went 1-11. Then he got fired two years after winning the conference championship, finishing 8th in the worst conference in the country.
Florida bringing in their running QB(#5) at times other than 3rd and short. Wonder if niner and Colletto are watching?
I hope so, I love the change up Crazy Legs Colleto brings
Fuck that, let’s start throwing backwards passes to our tackles. That seems fun, and wreckless.
The jump pass in the civil war in Corvallis last year made me sad. Would have been awesome if it worked though
If we wanted to be unpredictable, we could start by throwing the ball out of the pistol so it’s not always a dead giveaway to the defense.
Funny, just randomly came across a news story that said Disneyland hit it’s all time peak capacity on Dec 27th and had to stop letting people in at 11:30AM.
So basically this week was the all-time worst time to make a trip down there.
I going to bet Whiskey Soaked Napkins showed up at 11:29.
Might see a headline “man goes crazy, starts ripping Mickey ears off park goers heads. Makes disparaging remarks about Oregon Ducks”
Calls Snow White a “total twat.”
Hmmmm? Coincidence?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=2ahUKEwjT17ftiuDmAhUSX80KHfK9D7IQ0PADMAJ6BAgEEA0&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pix11.com%2Fnews%2Fnational-news%2Fdisney-characters-say-tourists-inappropriately-touched-them&usg=AOvVaw0YY1SgM_zOI5LeLN64cZo5
Punches out his entitled, ungrateful family in the middle of toon town
The seven dwarfs kick his ass
Kicks the shit out of Donald Duck. Later apologizes saying “I thought you were from Oregon”
Been awhile since I’ve looked at anything recruiting related.
Couple of names to keep an eye on.
Bem Stille, a potential DE transfer candidate from Nebraska. Havent confirmed anything yet, but he looks like a grad transfer possibility who could take the place of Alex Lemon, if we’re still looking to backfill the DE position. Who said the Nebraska transfer pipeline was dead?
https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ben-Stille-85241/RecruitInterests/
Another guy, Tyler Morano, looks like a potential PWO prospect for the 2020 class.
Looks like a late bloomer physically. Tall and putting weight onto a currently pretty slim 6’5″ frame. Must have good grades given his current offer list.
https://247sports.com/Player/Tyler-Morano-46086207/
That’s all I’ve got for now. Happy New Years
Proof of Stille’s graduation from Nebraska.
https://twitter.com/HuskerFBNation/status/1208390404682526726?s=19
Morano is tight end size as it stands, I wonder if he can catch a pass?
You see the GaTech 4-star recruit who killed himself on train tracks?
Was it a suicide? I didnt read the story but saw he died after getting hit by a train. Terrible
They’ve ruled it a suicide. That makes sense…it seems hard to get hit by a train unless you’re trying.
Just seems like such a tough way to go through with it, if that’s the choice he made. I could see somebody getting hit if they had headphones and weren’t using common sense, or were just heavily intoxicated.
Either way, such a sad story all the way around
With kids these days wearing their beats headphones everywhere, it’s not that hard to get yourself ran over by something. But killing yourself via train is brutal.
Fucking utah shitting the bed. What’s with whittingham and that coaching tree always dropping games they should win?
The last time I remember UT in the Alamo bowl (2012 I think) we were running at them in the first half and they could not stop us. It felt really good. After halftime we decided to pass the ball instead of run. We tried it the whole 2 nd half even though it was not working very well. We lost. I was very frustrated. It felt like everyone except our coaches could see that we needed to go back to the run.
It was about this time that I was starting to believe that our football program was in a slow downward spiral. Same pro barns every year and yet keep doing the same thing.
Problems
Happy new year
Pro Barnes?
Uh….no sure yet. Jury is still out with me.
Are you going to be at the game tomorrow
Yes. Hopefully not an ass kicking.
As I recall, UT had a defensive end that had almost 10 sacks, which was due to Smilin’ Mike going pass-happy again.
Okafor, if I remember right
Whittingham probably a little like Riley. Same problems every year. Never have a really good offense. Probably never make to the rose bowl (cannot win the big game)
The Big 12 has improved the last 3 years. Can they take the next step and pass the big 10?
Marky-mark cant get a break. https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093679/article/bears-fire-oc-mark-helfrich-other-offensive-assistants?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Dchi%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dncn%3Bplyr%3Ddavid_montgomery%3Bplyr%3Dmitchell_trubisky&p.ct=Around+the+NFL&p.adsm=true&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp
I only regret that the Quack administration didn’t keep him on as HC for a couple more years, so he could have completely destroyed the program.
Happy New Year all.
Wanting to take my daughter to a gymnastics meet this year. If I’m looking at the schedule right, I see one meet at home. Am I missing something? I guess we could attend an away meet if anyone knows of some good tailgaters.
Utah can’t be the bully, and they just look like a bunch of undisciplined punks. From what I saw, UT got a little selective home cookin to keep Utah off the board and now Utah has lost composure…
Utah got hosed by refs in Pac12 championship with 3 non-calls for targeting and now they look like undisciplined chumps. Pac12 microcosm to all of college footballPac12 best are chumps, I hope the Ducks get destroyed by Wiscy, but I’d probably bet money on Ducks simply based on ESPN having more say than they should about which teams get calls/coverage/hype etc. It is only entertainment, no longer amateur football.
I attended the Fiesta Bowl and it was a fun evening. OSU fans were upset by the refs, Clemson fans were classless leaving the stadium as if they were royalty and earned the win…entertaining though, as ESPN required after the LSU blowout coronation earlier in the day.
ESPN put up an interesting statistic. They said that the loser of the Pac-12 conference championship game has never gone on to win their bowl game. 0 – 9
Speaking of Ducks (I’m sure somebody was) …https://nypost.com/2017/05/06/dont-be-fooled-ducks-are-sadistic-raping-monsters/
Jack would have enjoyed it.
Happy New Year.
Only 45 days until Beaver Baseball!
Good luck to beavergopher. Auburn is a tough team. Top 10 in my uninformed opinion.
Texas coach said some nice things about Utah (well coached, etc) in the post game. He must be moving to Utah.
Happy New Year’s, Beavettes! Here’s to a Quack loss. Maybe it will shut Canzano up, he posted his fourth Cristobal-love opinion piece today. Canzano somehow tied it into his own grandfather hitchhiking across the country to attend a Rose Bowl game in the 1930s. It ended with Canzano, letting us know again that Cristobull gets up at 4:15 am every morning and hardly sleeps. Maybe sleep deprivation explains his in-game time management skills?
Also, Go Gophers!
Happy new year, buddy.
I took the Ducks +2.5. Think Mario will be an absolute failure long-term, but he has a senior QB and faster players than Wisconsin. Things lined up for him this year. I’m not sure where Wisconsin has an advantage with a cursory look.
Here’s to hoping this comment doesn’t age well.
Maybe Wiscy defense does a bit better than Beavs did in CW and we see the Ducks implode. Wiscy D is the Tibesar template for what we should expect in the next 2-5 years. I hope Beavs become a better defensive version of Wisconsin over time…
Except for all those 4-5 star recruits he’s stuck with. Anyone could coach them to a reasonable record. Look what Helfrich did with Mariota, before reality hit.
Ducks seem to be favorites in a cursory review.
UW has RB Taylor, with nearly 2000 yards this season. Other than that, not sure what they have. I think they put up good defensive numbers in first half if season.
I won’t be surprised if UW wins, but I expect Oregon will win and we’ll hear about why they should have been in playoff instead of Oklahoma….
I don’t much care. More interested if UO has any good QBs on the roster next year or a transfer QB coming in?
Did the line move? Ducks were 2.5 underdogs on Pick ’em.
The Wake Forest grad transfer QB, Jamie Newman, seems to be the next QB for oregon. Hasn’t transferred yet, but the media makes it sounds like a done deal
I saw the ticker on Newman come across on ESPN, it seemed odd given that he was an entrenched starter on a decent team already, but now it makes sense if he’s heading to Whoregon to chase a “natty”. As with all things Oregon, I hope it fails if that is what is going to happen.
Chase a natty?………or maybe he has always wanted a career in sports merchandise marketing?
Or a big sack of cash with a swoosh on the side
Minnesota qb throws an interception on the first drive. Not looking good for Beavergopher
I agreed at the time.
Outback bowl is shaping up to be a crazy game. In tin first drive. Kickoff run back for a touchdown. Muffed punt. Still first quarter
Gopher WR Johnson makes one of the more impressive catches of the season to put Gophs up 7 just before half. Could have had a toe out of bounds, but replay wasnt conclusive
That was one hell of a grab in person. He has made a ton of amazing catches this year, but he dropped a perfect pass right in his hands at Iowa that would have put us in the Rose Bowl. Came back for his senior year because he promised his mom he would graduate. Have to love that.
I’m pleasantly surprised that the Gophers are moving the ball so easily against Auburn. War Eagle my ass!
I took both MN and MI in the Bowl Pick ’em thinking those lines had a lot of SEC biased baked in.
Have confirmed an official visitor for the Jan 17th weekend. Just waiting for permission to make it public.
Not a big name and not currently offered
Official visitor is that Morona kid I mentioned yesterday.
Also expecting the OL who decommitted from USC(or lost his offer?) to visit later in January too. Kyle Juergens
So, in a situation eerily similar to the one Smith faced late in the WSU game, Minnesota, on a 4th and 2 from the Auburn 41, eschews the punt (that the announcers think is necessary) and instead completes a 10 yard pass over the middle to a tight end. I mean, even the play call is the same as Smith chose. The only differences, which I don’t think are probative, is that Beavergopher’s squad was ahead by 7, not 4 as in OSU’s case, and there was a minute more remaining.
Smith made the right call in Pullman; his team simply did not execute; Fluke’s did. It will be interesting to read Beavergopher’s take on this call when he get back from the game.
I thought it was the right call because in a bowl game you are playing with house money. Go win the game!
The amazing thing was it was to the TE. Penn State hired away our OC last week, so our young WR coach was the play caller today.
We literally have targeted TE’s only about five times ALL season. One of my frustrations with our former OC.
Was the catch as incredible on TV as it was in person? Looked to be a deflating overthrow until it wasn’t.
Congratulations BeaverGopher. Put the Big 10 on notice.
BG might be peaking in football a little early.
Thanks. It has been a crappy last twelve months for me. My wife passed away from cancer three days before Xmas last year. College sports have provided a distraction and some moments of joy. Beav baseball and watching Adley’s brilliance helped me get though the winter and spring.
It has been a magical season in Minneapolis with three miracle wins to start the year. My tailgating friends have all said that she was the Gophers guardian angel this year. Today was very fun.
shall I trailer my yacht to Surprise for some more tailgate action? [translation: are you going to Zona for opening weekend?]
That is the plan.
Whatever you do, don’t follow Whiskey and his trailer, it sounds like a living hell on the highway!
SEC narrative falls apart a little more.
A crumbling SEC narrative is still a lot better than the PAC-12 reality. Wisconsin by 2 TDs
Ranked 723rd in the nation now in the Pick Em, but Michigan is going to screw me. Surprising a banged up Alabama can beat them that badly.
Douche move by Sabin. Adds 35th point with twenty six seconds left. Granted it was against Harbaugh but still, no class.
Happy New Year all!
Well, it’s not like either one of them is worth rooting for. I wonder if Harbaugh asked Saban “what’s your deal” after the game?
Against Harbaugh. I like Saban just a little bit more.
‘Massengill Dousche Bowl’
Rumor mill says Nike U is interested in grad transferring Wake Forest QB. He was really good in the early part of the season this year, but played hurt the second half (granted, the competition was less than stellar.)
Are you implying that the great Mario Cristobal and his esteemed coaching staff have not developed one of their 4/5 star recruits to step up next year?
Interesting. I felt all along this year that Mario was making a mistake by not getting significant snaps for his back up QB; there were several opportunities left unused.
How many “blue bloods” are built on one and done transfers, especially at QB? It’s one thing for niner to rebuild a team using JC’s and transfers, another for a team that has the recruiting advantages of nike. The transfer portal and new redshirt rules are changing the way programs are built, I expect JS to have more success over the next decade than Mario largely because of the culture Smith is building.
That’s how Oklahoma has been getting it done lately.
They’ve been getting It done with potential/heisman winners. Big difference than a wake forest wash up.
Today I am a Badger. On Wisconsin!!!
Paul Chyrst needs to calm down
I’m not Paul chyrst!!
WI looks so slow and isn’t matching Oregon’s intensity. Going to be a long day.
Oops.
Interesting refereeing there to move the chains then review with no measurement and overturn the call, then measure on the next play on a more obvious 1st down.
I kindof wish they would just insert a something like 6 spaced out microscopic sensors inside every game ball and let that determine where the ball starts and stops on every play. Have it synched up with the clock and the sideline/firdt down/endzone markers. No more time wasted replaying bad calls or having to make bad calls just in case a replay will overturn it. It really sucks the life out of the game to have to watch the pomp and circumstance of every replay call.
That fucking official was right there on the Wisconsin pass play and he missed the receiver going out of bounds and the ball hitting the turf. Do they just call completions and then rely on replay to bail them out? I would be embarrassed if I missed two key components of one play that happened right in front of me!
If Wsicy gets a good run it has been a hold 3 times…
Why does it always feel like the ESPN goon announcers are rooting for the Ducks?
Oh yeah, Disney pays them…
Example: Badger returns KO to midfield and only replay is of nikegon D getting an int.
and Nike is a big advertiser on sports media
Does Wisconsin have an actual quarterback? That kid is awful.
Hasn’t that been the case every year except Russell Wilson?
Herbert is a weird dude. I get the impression he would just like to stay in college forever. I could be wrong, but based on what I’ve seen, I don’t see a future NFL star.
He definitely regressed this year. Could be psychological. Maybe he’s intimidated by the NFL and anxiety kept him in college for his senior season and messed with his head?
So who would you take as your clipboard holder if you’re an NFL team: Luton or Herbert?
Luton isn’t as athletic, but I’d take Jake
If I could hang around Oregon’s cheerleaders, I’d stay in college forever as well.
Is the rose bowl a game you’re rooting for a ‘Black Sunday’ scenario?
Btw, congrats to the rowers.
LOL, something like that. I’m rooting for Wisconsin and it just feels wrong.
Dye is a senior(?) and has no idea how to wrap up a ball carrier
Isn’t he the leading tackler in school history?
That may be but not sure I’ve ever seen him tackle. He likes to hit, and he’s almost always around the ball, form tackle, not so much.
Even #25 Breeze misses some. But not many.
Breeze wraps up though, see turn over tackle for difference
Yup. Breeze is one very good player who certainly has a nose for the ball.
He reminds me of a healthy David Morris, too bad he didn’t choose to come to Corvallis.
How many loads has Herbstreet dumped in his drawers talking about the schmucks over the past 3 hrs? Wisconsin is winning but you would never know listening to these honks.
WTF is on the top of the quacks helmets?
Reflections
Intelligent qb play right there. Loss of 12 game on the line for Herbert
Herbert taking that sack, not untypical for him, and not close to his publicity. He’s got an arm, like some others we’ve seen, but not a leader and not FB smart enough to live up to his press.
Wisconsin DB got shoved into Herbert at the end of that TD run and the penalty is on him. That’s the type of BS calls that should be reviewable. He doesnt make contact with Herbert if he doesn’t get shoved in the back by a duck player
That’s exactly the way I saw it. And, of course, no comment by announcers!
That gets called a penalty and that fucking Arizona St player almost ended James Rodgers career with an end-zone tackle and nothing was called! I know I’m losing it a little here!
I would like a nice long time consuming drive with out a turnover
That wasn’t what I had in mind.
Two evenly matched teams but the refs are really stealing the show.
Badgers continously stepping on their own dicks.
I think what bothers me the most about the U of Nike right now is that they are given so many advantages including non-calls, no targeting calls, no unsportsmanlike for their celebration garbage and trash talk, all the free ESPN exposure, Nike promises behind closed doors, 5 star athletes from everywhere and with all of that, they struggle to be a winner in the best sense of the word.
I despise the Nike impact on their program and think it wreaks of obvious corruption going on about 20 years. They are no longer the Chip Kelly machine and it is frustrating that they continue to get hyped as if they are invincible.
Sour grapes I suppose but it is nauseating to see them hyped on the national platforms in every major sport when the obvious influence of Nike$$ is ignored by all…
Well said, do you think when Uncle Phil passes on to the great waffle shoe in the sky that anything changes? I’ve heard he donates a little to OSU also. I think he created a monster but does not have much direct influence any longer. Unfortunately, I think the machine keeps churning after he’s gone.
Herbert drop also not totally unusual for the anointed boy!
Refs just stole the game for the ducks. Unbelievable
When the duck loving announcers are questioning the call you know it can’t be right.
That’s the game. Ducks win the Rose Bowl. Yuck. At least I picked them in the pool.
I feel like projectile vomiting.
Wisconsin #6 with the dangly earrings singlehandedly blew the game for them
Turnovers with a little help from the officiating.
But what do I know. I see pushing and shoving on every pass play
Fucking Badgers. Every time(twice) I’ve wanted them to win they fuck up.
The way Herbstreet and Fowler talk about the ducks I wonder how close they are with Phil.
Every espn commercial that have mascots always has the duck. Marketing. I imagine Nike runs a lot of commercials on espn.
It isn’t just those two; keep an eye out for anyone to point out the turnovers by Badgers which coverup the pedestrian offense today for nike.
I read somewhere that Kirk and Corso have contracts with Nike.
Fucking shit, how badly did ESPN/Disney want the Quacks to win this game? Herbstreit said it would be a “landmark victory” for Oregon? Umm, I think they won a BCS playoff game before and Rose Bowls. Then he said they would have been in the playoffs if they had beaten Auburn, maybe, but Oklahoma would have been in the conversation too. The offensive pass interference NEVER gets called that way, the referee commentator sounded like he was making up shit to justify the call. The Wisconsin player was pushed into Herbert, no mention. There was also a goal-line replay showing Dye leading with his helmet and no mention.
Wisconsin fucked up with turnovers, but they dominated the game and it was never described that way, notice how the yardage discrepancy was rarely shown? Also, anyone notice the ESPN playoff commercial and the Ducks were in there with the elite programs? I’m starting to think fucking conspiracy!!!
If you are truly elite they want you in their commercials. If you are not (i.e. Oregon) someone is obviously paying.
Replay of the Beavs game. Just enough, but damn it, they find a way to win.
The Civil War was pretty clean, it’s like nobody gives a fuck when the game is on the P-12 Network!
Article on USC OL decommit Kyle Juergens. Says they told him to decommit because they didnt have room for him. So he decommits. Then they have a historically bad signing day and now he’a saying if they’ll have him back, he’d be happy to take a new USC offer.
Type of guy that’s going to get walked all over by his future ex-wife if he doesn’t show a little pride for himself.
https://www.usc247.com/news/2020/1/1/kd9l0yviewr0ngp8tlrgb28lpl0kvg
Maybe he would like WSN’s wife. She might be available soon.
LOL
If we had bona fide journalism, some reporter would investigate the incestuous relationship between ESPN, Nike, and the UO. The gambit is very much vertically integrated including, as some have noted above, the fact that the Duck is in every CFB promotion featuring mascots that ESPN runs. (That said, the Duck mascot executes a pretty funny choreography; probably scripted with help from Nike; a much better look than what OSU manages with Benny [who could use an update])
Theres nothing to investigate, this is a known thing. No one outside our sphere gives a shit.
Benny should be old benny, nothing else.
^^^^^
Ducks had 2 penalties for 20 yards. Wisconsin 9 for 79. Didn’t this end some kind of TD pass streak for Herbert? Quacks had 204 yards of total offense. As I said, Wisconsin screwed themselves with the turnovers but seemed like more going on to help the Quacks get the win.
“Wiscy D is the Tibesar template for what we should expect in the next 2-5 years. “…ohiobeav, above.
I’ll take it!
The swoosh bags have gone to the Rose Bowl more in the last decade than ever before. I’m hoping that during this next decade we won’t see them in the Rose Bowl anymore and Crystal Nuts has reached his ceiling! I’ve heard the argument said that the d-cks success doesn’t hurt Oregon State being successful. I disagree. I think that team down south recent success has hurt OSU tremendously because OSU can’t keep up. Especially with all of the reasons mentioned above with all of the help the the d-cks are getting, it’s unbelievable! What do you guys think? Does uo’s success ultimately hurt OSU? Or does it even matter?
Gotta believe Breeze (Central Catholic) chance of going to OSU would be increased if nikegon didn’t have “success”. Just one example.
Not sure it mattered with this guy. He likely idolized his cousin and would have gone down south regardless.
Breeze was all duck from early on. He had several family members who were alums, us his uncle is former duck player Chad Cota.
Chad’s son almost went to oregon too, but switched up to UCLA and Chip Kelly after Helfrich was let go at oregon.
Georgia is playing w/o about 20% of their team and they are still dominating Baylor. Must be nice to be deep.
Baylor made it a little bit of a game in the second half, but their poor QB (Charlie Brewer) got another concussion and it was over.
Edit- nice to see the “down vote asshole” down vote a college player getting a concussion!
Last night during the Belk Bowl, the announcers commented on how excited Hokie coaches were for transfer QB Braxton Burmeister! I almost choked on my beer.
But, if he is successful, would that be an indictment of the poor quality of the ACC or 0regon’s ability to develop talent in house?
NFL veteran official on that OPI call against Wisconsin.
https://twitter.com/SNFRules/status/1212548292783091712?s=19
There’s a slow motion replay on that thread that clearly shows the DB initiate contact and hold.
duck fan came here to thumb you down?
Expect more of that since the big zero shut down its comments…er playground.
MBB plays Utah tonight. Does anybody care?
In SLC, vs a 9-3 Ute team that has lost to Coastal Carolina, Tulane and SDSU so far this year.
Should be a winnable game, but I have zero confidence we will start the conference slate with a W on the road tonight.
Vegas has Utes as a -1.5 pt favorite.
I’ve heard so little talk about the MBB team this year.
It’s almost like the fan base has given in to the fact that this team will not make the NCAA tournament again.
How long do we just accept this team will be a middle of the road Pac12 team, at best, every single year?
After many years, I didn’t renew my season tickets…if that means anything. I watch when available on the tube.
Most cheer for wbb now.
Until Tinkle is gone. He’s had enough time to build a winner and it hasn’t happened. Basketball is not a sport where you need a long time to turn things around. I can’t believe we passed on Eric Musselman, Ben Howland, and Mike Hopkins.
How many years left on his contract?
I think Tinkle’s window of opportunity has passed. He had three top 100 players on his roster last year and the best he could get out of them was 18-13. He also hyped this year’s schedule and I just read an article that it’s the softest pre-conference schedule since he’s been here because a lot of teams they’ve played just aren’t good this season. I could see this imploding next year and I really hope I’m wrong.
Exactly. Lots of hype over Tres returning but really does it matter? This is not a tourney team.
Aspiring writers take note….
https://www.buildingthedam.com/2020/1/1/21045889/building-the-dam-is-looking-for-writers
I’d have to imagine BTD doesn’t pay much, if at all. They’re looking for new writers every couple of months. It’s a revolving door over there.
Would much rather be my own boss and provide recruiting info for free on Angry’s site than work for Yahoo for a few extra shekels.
David Stern, Sam Wyche, and Don Larsen all just died. holy shit I’m getting old
All the people hating on the MBB team haven’t watched them or caught one of their bad games… They have the talent this year to win games but they still have the Wayne Tinkle coached consistently… they look really good when they are on, this is probably the most watchable team since Coach Tinkles first year… That being said, they have looked bad at times too, so it all depends on how consistent they can be… I am not holding my breath but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they have a good run in Pac 12 play.
I’m trying to give them a chance and actually watch tonight’s game. But the half effort I see so frequently with Tinkle teams is already showing. Plus both teams tonight are really sloppy. 10 turnovers in the first 10 minutes is not fun basketball to watch
Yep, sadly looks like the bad team tonight… you nailed it, effort waning and poor shot selection… plus open shots not going down
Tinkles offensive sets are the most predictable shitty set ups I have ever seen… it’s ridiculous
It doesn’t help when they are shooting 1 for 10 from three-point land. Announcers said Reichle is shooting 12% over his last five games. More of the same shit.
They’ve spent almost the entire game trailing between 5 and 10 points. And anytime they get it down to 5, you can guarantee a dumb turnover(steps before dribble drive or driving into a double team) and then Utah’s 12 year old guard cans another open 3.
Maybe we should think about closing out on that kid once in awhile?
9 pt margin with 7 minutes to go and it feels completely insurmountable. Maybe if I quit watching they’ll go on a miracle run
This is why I dropped season tickets this year, no consistency.
The first GP2 season was the best, then the coach went away from playing tough defense.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the season ends 10-20.
Thompson is a huge disappointment. He plays max minutes and is a non factor. He should be a leader and most of
the time you don’t even know he’s on the floor.
Here’s Thompson in a nutshell. He misses a wide-open, straight on three that would have tied the game in the second half and maybe given his team some life. Then he heads down the court and commits his fourth foul on some Utah scrub who shot an air ball layup on his first attempt and then out-fought two or three Beavers (including Thompson) for the offensive rebounds after that. Also, great second half from Lil’ Tinks, what did he score? About three points? Is this team going to win a conference game?
The upside view of an Oregon victory is that it might cause some of their underclassmen to declare. It would certainly weaken them for next year if guys like Scott, Faliou, Graham and Lenoir all bolt for a paycheck.
Dude, there are only two things that will make the Ducks weaker: 1) a major NCAA violation, or 2) Phil Knight kicking the bucket. And 1 won’t happen before 2.
But why bolt when you can get paid in other ways while going to college. It’s a good thing Cristobal and co can’t coach em up. I think they will be more like Utah next year. Strong defensively but inconsistent offensively.
Just tuned into the game – ho-hum. Tuned out. If anyone listens to the post-game, I think coach-speak will be, “they didn’t do what we told them to do.” Do the players ever practice making baskets?
Wayne, what exactly do you do to deserve you salary?
12 point loss to kickoff the season. Wayne Tinkle should change his name Payne Trickle.
Yes, OSU couldn’t hit their butts with a paddle and lost the game. However…it’s worth noting that Utah is a much better team than some people think and Coach K is a much better coach. There will be some other road losses in Salt Lake.
more vindication for Smith in Pullman. In tonight’s Gator Bowl, Tennessee, with a one point lead, was intending to go for it on 4th and 1, rather than punt to Indiana, with 1:40 left in the game, on their side of the 50!. A false start pushed it back to 4th and 6, so Tennessee punted it. Indiana took possession on about their own 20 with 55 seconds left, a little more time than WSU had when they took their final possession. Indiana doesn’t have the proficient offense that WSU, but made it to the 45 of Tennessee before time ran out.
You’re still beating this horse?
yes; because it revolves around the pivotal point of the recently completed football season.
Tennessee punted and won…go figure. (Dead horse rising)
That victory by the Vols tightened up the Bowl Poll, angry’s lead down to a single game!
C’mon Nevada!
and Minnesota went for it on 4th and won. Indiana doesn’t have nearly as proficient an offense as WSU and still moved the ball to within ten yards of game-winning field goal range, with no time outs and 55 seconds.. My point isn’t who won, rather, it’s the conventionality of the this kind of decision (Smith, Fluke, Tennessee [before the penalty]), not the radical proposition that some seem to think. It will only become more common and Smith is in the vanguard of this thinking. Good for him.
It’s Fleck…..not Fluke.
In other Tennessee related news: Darwin Barney hired to lead Triple-A Nashville Sounds, the affiliate of the Texas Rangers. The Sounds are in the same PCL division as the Omaha Storm Chasers, so some familiar environs for Barney!
No indication this will impact his involvement with the Portland Diamond Project
https://www.lonestarball.com/2020/1/2/21047184/darwin-barney-manager-nashville-sounds-texas-rangers
https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/more/new-owner-darwin-barney-mlb-pdx-i-would-bet-it
Worth a quick read, from the Scoop:
“Nick Saban and his staff have a scouting report for officiating crews”
Probably never work with PAC zebras, only one identifiable tendency there…….foolishness!
https://footballscoop.com/news/nick-saban-and-his-staff-have-a-scouting-report-for-officiating-crews-heres-why/
More tuition money / student debt well spent!
I’m pretty sure Alabama football generates money for the school, not the other way around.
Man, that was difficult to read. Was that written by a 10 year-old?
$200,000 bachelors degree in writing at work
Oh I don’t know about that. After reading it, clearly the writer has a masters degree in writing at work. The problem is us simpletons without a masters degree just don’t understand writing in general. I kid, I kid. This seems to be a growing problem, within the last 5 years. Articles posted online have become increasingly difficult to read , with all kinds of spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors. I may have to quit my job in a sawmill and become a writer to save the industry.
A lot of them are written by robots.
So is Penthouse Forum written by sex bots?
Some sad news to post here. A few months ago I shared that my mom won a $300 Safeway shopping trip with Coach Tinkle. He was very nice to her sharing about his childhood, family, etc. My mom donated the food to a family who’s father had stage 4 cancer. Last night, that person passed away. If any of you know Seith Raleigh (OSU alumni probably 2006 ish) he was a great, goofy guy. Worked at Block 15 for a bit and his dad is a project engineer with OSU. As we all know on here, cancer sucks really bad. I am saying a prayer for Seith, his family, and all of you guys affected by cancer in one way or another.
Adley Rutschman – Pac 12 Player of the Decade.
also Madrigal, Conforto, Larnach, Andrew Moore
https://d1baseball.com/analysis/best-of-the-2010s-pac-12-all-decade-team/
A certain LHP is conspicuously missing.
Was he last seen heading for the border?
Way off topic… My employer has had a lot of turnover in management positions(including foreman) the last few years. They company fired a foreman a few weeks ago. I thought hey here’s my chance get out of my production position. So I go online and read the job posting. The company wants to give a starting salary of $45k a year and preferrs college education. I about shit myself when I saw that 45k a year. That’s around 15k less than I currently make on my production position. Needless to say I am not going to be applying for that foreman job.
Greatest economy ever!
The economy is the greatest it has ever been and we’re withdrawing our troops from the middle east. No more endless wars, am I right?
What’s that? We sent 4000 troops to Kuwait in the last 24 hours? Delete that last comment
I thought this was a good job by Twitter calling someone out.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/141604554855825408
I voted for Trump…but never again. Though the democrats all suck, so it’s going to be tough. I think I like Pete best, not Ringo, out of the group of confiscating goons.
I’ve come to accept the plight of a moderate is you’re always voting for a party not in power.
Tread lightly….. you just might incur some wrath.
The funny thing is, war with Iran would kill Trump’s reelection chances. Very few people want a war, and there’s absolutely no narrative to justify it (yet).
Pete is the least offensive Dem because he’s well-spoken and refuses to commit to anything. He’s Obama 2.0 with even less practical experience. That just means he’ll surround himself with “experienced” DC folks (i.e. Swamp Monsters) like Obama did and his policy will be more of the same that has us slowly rolling toward the cliff.
I’m not sure what Pete would do, nor do I know if I’ll vote for him, but I can’t stomach any of the other dems. So it’s him or a write-in. Trump has swamp creatures (neo-cons and goldman sachs) all around him. He drained the swamp and filled an ocean.
He lost my vote when he begged the FED to cut rates (after rightfully criticizing them on the campaign trail). Want to talk about sending us off a cliff…
If Trump can stir up enough ‘instability’ in the Middle East without plunging into real war, he will dramatically help his reelection chances.
With Boeing tripping all over themselves, the energy sector is that last hope the US has for industrial growth. Oil prices don’t support that at today’s levels, but if Trump can figure out how to goose them, he’ll send a lot of people back to work and keep US GDP up for another few quarters. Crude oil demand isn’t going to drive high prices, so the only options are actual production cutoffs somewhere outside the US or Middle East political risk.
That’s a fine line to walk, though, and with psychopath Pompeo advising Trump, there’s little expertise in finesse in the War Room.
For sure, there will be no draining of the swamp. There aren’t enough competent, electable, non-narcissists with the will to accomplish that.
I could see someone like Sanders or Warren surrounding themselves with SJW’s from academia. I think I’d rather have the Swamp Monsters.
On the bright side for Birchers, gold is up nicely today!
Swamp creatures vs SJW is very tough…
These aren’t the only options. We need to put a Beav on it.
I’m not sure I agree higher oil is good for jobs. For a few people in that industry, but overall the higher input costs kill an economy. Cheap energy is a boon for the general economy.
Fun fact: Oregon’s congresional delegation (both houses) is almost entirely composed of Ducks (either BS or JD).
Fun fact: Oregon’s congresional delegation (both houses) is almost entirely composed of Ducks (either BS or JD).
Put a Duck on it just doesn’t have the same ring.
It’s absolutely important for jobs in places where Trump needs votes (those that depend on the industrial/manufacturing portions of the economy). O&G is a major driver and has only gotten more prominent as US oil production grows. A lot of the machining capacity that was threatened by declining US auto production in the early part of the 2000’s was saved by the growth in oil production. Same with basic materials like steel.
Not to mention the coming wall of oil E&P debt coming due in the next few years. Higher oil prices will allow a lot of that to be refinanced. Otherwise, there will be a shock to the bond market that will require even more government intervention to avoid turning into contagion. Not sure if you’ve read about the record amount of BBB bonds out there, but the majority of those are energy firms with no chance of repaying it with their current FCF situations,.
I don’t think oil people are going to vote for Pete or Warren, so they already have the Trump vote. No? Seems no matter what oil jobs will vote for Trump. So if we do get a spike in oil, Trump gets hurt via an overall drag on the economy.
It’s not just “oil people.” It’s the industries that support oil production, which are very much swing votes due to historical connections to the auto industry, labor, etc.
I used to work in oilfield supply and we had customers and suppliers in all the swing states (Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, etc.) These weren’t “oil businesses,” but they had transformed over the years to supply the oil industry as manufacturing and industry left the US and their customer bases in other industries dwindled.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/why-lower-oil-prices-wont-necessarily-boost-the-u-s-economy
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/rising-oil-prices-may-now-be-a-positive-for-the-us-economy.html
“But the rise of the United States to become the world’s second-largest oil producer has changed the calculus for how rising energy prices affect the economy. Consumer pain at the pump is now seen as an offset to an extent by increases in capital spending by U.S. oil companies and by gains in the growing number of regions producing energy. And what once would have been a massive surge in the oil trade deficit, which would subtract from gross domestic product, is now offset to a large degree by U.S. oil exports.
“We think the effect will round to a wash,? said Michael Feroli, chief U.S. economist with J.P. Morgan Chase. “Our prior modeling would likely have produced a slightly more adverse impact, perhaps annualizing to a quarter point off growth for two consecutive quarters.“
Now, Feroli sees a roughly 0.2 percent decrease from lower consumer spending offset by a 0.2 percent gain in capital spending.”
Another factor affecting Trump’s reelection would be whether or not he supports extending licenses/financially supporting existing nuclear power plants in those states (Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania). Turkey Point NPP in Florida was recently granted a license to extend the operating lifetime to 80 years, and is a potential site for Westinghouse’s AP1000 reactors.
Keeping the nuclear industry alive is what has helped cities such as Pittsburgh revitalize itself.
It’s pretty easy to see why they’ve had so much turnover in management positions.
Exactly!
Assuming the Foreman position is less demanding, physically and mentally, than a production position, maybe this company is doing a good thing. Maybe they are putting more value on the workers in the trenches.
It is less demanding physically but not mentally. A lot more stress in the foreman position. Basically they are responsible for making sure our production meets the company goals, doing anything & everything they can to make sure that happens. We are a union outfit, so it kinda puts the foreman between a rock and a hard place. At any time the plant manager can come in and just fire the foreman for any reason. I couldn’t & won’t work with that kinda stress hanging over me for $45k a year. I might be greedy but I think the foreman should make a minimum of $70k a year…
Who is the butt wipe that down votes everything I post? I mean seriously, you gotta problem speak up and we can discuss it like adults. Or just keep doing what you have been and Jack off into your sock puppet as you hit that downvote.
Bill musgrave is Cals new O coordinator.
Anybody seen any news links on duck WRs Jaylon Redd and Lance Wilhoite? Other than them not playing in the Rose Bowl?
Hearing sexual assault investigation rumors are making the rounds but I haven’t seen any substantial stories written about either yet.
I’m sure Canzono is all over this story. He will be bringing in Brenda Tracy to discuss.
Have you checked Canzano’s “BrendaTracy-O-Meter?!?” Is it pegged?!?
No, but Frosty at Nebraska is finally parting ways with RB Maurice Washington for some bad shit.
The SnOregonian is class…Caption this iconic photo: Oregon Ducks’ Justin Herbert scores despite Rachad Wildgoose chase….You’d have thought the Ducks had just beaten LSU for the National Title. Instead, they beat a now 10-4 Whiskey team that lost to freaking Illinois but it was a “monumental” win for the Ducks. LOL over the 2nd place team in the Big 10…..just monumental.
They’ll be put in their place when Ohio State visits Eugene in September.
Yeah they backed into that trophy – credit schmucks’ opportunistic defense, but Wisky gave that game away. Gotta wonder about that schmuck offense, it looks pretty bad.
…that schmuck offense, it looks pretty bad.
And that’s with a senior/”heisman candidate caliber” QB…………wait till next year!!
OT, anybody on Nextdoor? Holyshit I think I found a new hobby trolling busybody housewives about trivial matters around my neighborhood.
Doing my best to re-create the Jack annoyance factor, I came upon this in today’s Wall Street Journal::
“Ten years ago, Belichick had a new idea. He didn’t come up with the idea to go for it on fourth down, but he was about to change the way the football world thought about it. The Patriots led the Colts 34-28 late in the fourth quarter, and in this high-profile showdown between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, New England faced fourth-and-2 from its own 28-yard line. The conventional wisdom was obvious. The next play would be a punt.
Belichick saw it differently: nothing would be crazier than willingly giving the ball back to Manning. So they tried to keep it, with Brady dropping back to pass. The completion fell short, Manning got the ball back anyway and the Colts scored the game-winning touchdown with 16 seconds left.
The results didn’t matter so much as the theory behind it. [Ahem; Where have we heard that before?] And the last decade has shown how this once-heretical decision has become conventional. Teams are going for it on fourth down more than ever, and Belichick has been ahead of the curve the entire time: Since 2005, the Patriots have gone for it 36 more times than expected, according to an NFL model that accounts for situational factors and league-wide behavior. That’s more than any coach in the league.”
Looks like Jonathan Smith is in pretty elite coaching company. And that includes FLECK, BeeG.
What?……No music video?
Was there ever just one?
Belichick and Patriots revolutionized cheating too. Playing in the margins and grey areas of the rule book — the wide receiver eligibility fiasco against the Ravens three or so years ago comes to mind. Kraft is a slime ball and found his guy in like-minded Belichick and franchise QB Tom Brady. I hope JS will aspire to being above all that tom-fuckery (pun intended).
Six degrees of Big Boy Pants separation…..
Minnesota hires Utah State OC as Co OC/QB coach. Anybody watch their games this year?