Here are my annual rankings. As always, there is the star rating but the order the guys are listed matters as well (e.g. the first three star guy on my list is the best. The last 3-star the worst. Etc). Let me know your thoughts and/or who I got wrong and why.
*****
Charles Moore — I’m not sure if he’s a psycho, but he looks to be a legit game-changer. Check out the film. He was the 69th recruit in the nation in 2019. He sounds like a bit of a prima donna, so that’s a concern. “Auburn wasn’t the place initially that I wanted to go to because it’s in a secluded, country area. I wanted to live a flamboyant lifestyle. But actually, going to college isn’t about that life. When you go to college, that 3-4 years is to set you up for the rest of your life…” Let’s hope that’s behind him, and he can live up to his talent.
****
Chance Nolan — I really like this guy, and he should give Gebbia a run for his money. I see a guy with legit wheels, a strong arm, and a fluid throwing motion. He had offers from Oklahoma State, UCLA, and Utah. Big get.
Jake Overman — Nice blocker and pass catcher. Very fluid and a motor. I can see this guy being a captain one day. That type of heart somehow shows on film. Hope he stays at TE because he looks elite there.
Shane Kady — Legit. What am I missing? Not sure why he’s only a 3-star, and his offer sheet isn’t great. Extremely explosive pass rush and finishes plays. Probably the most under the radar guy in the class.
Sione Lolohea — Mean pass rusher with range and agility. Future game changer on defense.
***
Isaiah Newell — Surprisingly difficult to rate since we don’t know his position for sure, and there isn’t a lot of film on him (strange given his prestigious offer sheet). I’d put him low 4-star/high 3-star. If I had a 3.5 rating I’d put him there. So I’ll just make him my #1 3-star prospect. Rare combination of size, agility, and nimble feet (looks like Fred Astaire out there!). Speed looks good. Maybe not breakaway, but good speed.
Alton Julian — Big, rangy…good ball skills and pretty good coverage skills. Lacks top end speed and agility. Looks a lot like Jordan Poyer with a similar skill set. Seems to have a fiestiness and a lot of heart to his play. Winning personality, too.
Ben Gulbranson — Really long windup where he drops the ball down low before throwing. That said, it works for him. Pretty good wheels and elusiveness. He should be a productive QB in a few years.
Zeriah Beason — With his offer sheet I was expecting to see greatness on film, but he doesn’t have breakaway speed and goes down pretty easily. Still a nice looking player. Not sure he’s a “game changer” as his offer sheet suggests.
Taliese Fuaga — Big body but needs to work on his technique and form. Bumps and pushes opponents to the ground, which isn’t going to work in the PAC.
Silas Bolden — Runs exactly like Victor. Very strange. Nice looking complimentary player.
Junior Walling — He’s intriguing on film. Pretty decent speed and takes good angles tackling. Offer sheet of Utah and then mostly Ivy League schools.
Rejzohn Wright — His film is old, so it’s hard to say, but in the first few clips we see (a) a guy celebrating a pick six around the 20 yard line and (b) a guy targeting. He has a good offer sheet, so maybe I’m missing something or he matured at JC. Can’t know these things from watching 2017 film, though. Coach him up, Smith.
Ron Hardge III — My lowest 3-star. Early in his film he seems to have good awareness and ball skills, but as it goes on you see some PI and other problems. Overall looks okay. Might contribute early on if he can learn PAC level play early in camp. Very low 3-star ability, but I’m hoping he can be coached up with some of the issues. Hiding him at safety would be smart, and his future would be a bit brighter there.
**
Cooper Darling — Fringe 3-star. Has serious strength, but he’s slow and not the most agile blocker. I’d say he’s a project who could go either way depending on coaching and desire.
Tavis Shippen — Really weird film. He seems to just bang guys with his shoulder. Not sure that plays well in the PAC-12. Technique flat out sucks. Looks to have a good body. I’m not sure you can teach a JC guy technique. At least he has good physical gifts to work with if they can teach him some form. I don’t understand the high rating, but maybe it’s a me issue.
John Miller — Very stiff athlete. Hard hitter. Looks like a special teams type of guy who can maybe work into the rotation as he matures. He looks to have taken big strides between Sophomore and Junior year. I couldn’t find Senior film. Possible late bloomer? Possible 3-star just having a hard time being fair on how productive he might be and how long into his career to do so given how stiff he looks. Intriguing.
Trevor Pope — Doesn’t look like a PAC-12 athlete. Think he projects best in the secondary and as a backup player.
Tommy Spencer — Slow moving TE. Looks to be the 2nd guy in two TE sets and maybe a blocking TE.
Jacob Ferenczi — Not seeing a ton of talent here. He’s super smart, so maybe with that talent and some development by senior year he’ll be a contributor.
Johnathan Riley — Not much film on him. All I’m finding are clips from a Spring practice or scrimmage. Hard to say. He looks alright in the video. 5-star name, though!
Korbin Sorensen — I can’t find any video on him, and I’m skeptical a PSU player can come in and contribute.
*
Joe Quillen — No video. He’s not necessarily a 1-star, but given his lack of offers and lack of video that’s where he’s going.
Numero Uno!!! That’s number 1 for you non-Spanish speakers.
Dos
Tres…..that means no point guard in Spanish and Tinkle.
Hopefully there are several sleepers on defense, waiting to become the psychos this team badly needs.
Thanks Angry.
On the coaching and teaching technique, I’m cautiously optimistic the current D coaching staff can do that. I was concerned that much of the current roster had terrible habits from Andersen’s tenure that couldn’t/wouldn’t be corrected, but there was marked improvement in pursuit and tackling this past year.
there was marked improvement in pursuit and tackling this past year.
Totally agree. The players are a year older, though, so how much is that? You’d expect improvement if you do the same things for another year. I will be interesting to see guys who are Smith’s from the start and how they progress.
Anderson’s dudes disnt improve with age lol
The older you get, the harder it is to hurdle
OT, gals up to 3rd in the AP rankings with 4 first place points. I think this is again the highest we’ve been with the most first place points.
Saw the CW is already sold out. Both home courts ought to be pretty energized.
Shippens film you posted was weird, every play he posted was a hold or a blind side pancake block on offense. It was just ok for his defensive plays. But as someone pointed out, it’s old film from highschool. With his offer sheet being what it is, somethings up. He has to have settled down and is playing better then that film.
Yeah. I’d like to see some new film, but I don’t think there’s any out there. Recruiters must see something that’s not on that film, but I don’t know what it is, so I’m going on that film that’s available. Based on that, he is super overrated.
Maybe look for team film from his JC. Wouldn’t necessarily be of him but he’d be in it.
It should be interesting to watch nolan battle gebbia. Does nolan have 2 or 3 years? If we can reload on the offensive line I like the looks of the roster coming back. It’s been mentioned but I would definitely like to c a tall wr added.
,3 I believe
Moores comments you posted………I’m not sure if hes joking or just didn’t visit OSU?
Nolan: at least we’ll have a competitive QB competition. Not the old “who sucks the least” challenge.
I can’t get behind Nolan. I hope I’m wrong, and I see the same things you guys do on film, but remember, he was a redshirt at Middle Tennessee State a year ago. I’m not sure how after a year at a JC, he is ready to be a starter in the PAC 12.
You can’t get behind him? Meaning you don’t think he should be given a shot to win the job?
It’s how can a guy transform himself into a power 5 recruit after just one year?
I think Nolan is a solid three star. He was a two star out of high school and now has made himself into a three star. He’s no four star player.
Nolan’s touch on the ball is pretty good, but then again, can he make those throws with an opposing nutsack on his neck….?
He’s no four star player.
Why?
I’m curious what you see in his film. It’s almost entirely composed of him throwing the same vertical ball over and over again. He does it well, but that’s a throw he’s going to be attempting maybe 3-4 times per game. What else can he do?
His HS film looks the exact same.
I have the same issue DE. The film seems to show a very simple offense where he either hits a simple read or scrambles. Works well against lower talent but in P5 idk. Tools are there to be a good qb I just don’t know how good he can read a defense and read in a more complicated system. Happy to have his talent on the team regardless.
I already said what I see in the comment next to his name:
I really like this guy, and he should give Gebbia a run for his money. I see a guy with legit wheels, a strong arm, and a fluid throwing motion. He had offers from Oklahoma State, UCLA, and Utah. Big get.
Those schools I mention are consistently good at QB evaluation. So if they’ve seen him even more recently than the film and offered then he’s probably even better than on film. My guess is he’s a late bloomer. Let’s remember, Johnny Manzeil was a 2-star recruit at one point and bumped to a 3 by signing day (for those who are hung up he was a 2-star at some point). Smith said he’s a big time competitor, too. So he probably willed himself into a player.
OT: Rashed Jr. coming back for senior season.
“These past three years have been such a humbling experience. I’ve been blessed to play big time football, but I still have a lot left to accomplish. There is an opportunity to achieve so much more and create unforgettable memories with my teammates.
After a long conversation with my family, I have decided to return to Oregon State for my senior season to capitalize on all opportunities, earn respect, grow as a player, and leave OSU better than I found it.”
https://twitter.com/HamilcarRashed/status/1209210377214414849
What a stud. “and leave OSU better than I found it.” buddy you already are doing that.
That is awesome. LB crew will be fantastic if Gumbs gets healthy. No more bleeding Gumbs!
Something every dentist appreciates. Amirite boss
Ya’ll right about that.
Awesome! Hope someone got him a stack of cash for coming back
Pizza delivery boy in opponents’ offensive backfield: “I have a pizza for Mr. Hamilcar Rashed Jr!”
Wouldn’t it be a sack lunch?
I’m not too wrapped up on who played where, or who has offered or even if someone redshirted like Chance Nolan did at MTS. I am getting behind the coaches now. They have proven to me as a fan in 2 years time, that they obviously know what they are doing. Yes, it took the current guys 2 years to improve, but the current players seem to have better body type than previous classes.
Zeriah Beason has 4.4 speed lol, plus he played on a top texas team with 5 star guys around him. He will be amazing. Also John Miller is better than walling. Jonathon Riley has updated film on hudl, he looks solid will likely be 2 deep. I agree in Shady he looks good way underrated, but I disagree on Darling looks good and should help in a year or 2.
He reminds me of that ASU WR. That guy is a beast.
High 3-star is a good rating, so I’m not sure what you’re complaining about. You think he’s a 4-star?
The problem with highlight film is it doesn’t tell the whole story and isn’t what the coaches use to judge a player. U cant tell things like if a receiver blocks downfield well or if a player takes plays off etc.
Of course.
It’s fun to watch a bit of game film when they are available.
Need low lights, medium lights, and a representative distribution.
Thanks for taking the time and doing these reviews AB!
Charles Moore —Dead on. If he can keep his head and school together I think this kid is gone in 3. Definitive 5.
Chance Nolan — Slightly disagree on confidence not stars. Has all the tools so I’m interested to see what he does against P5 competition. I still think the air raid type offense he was in really simplified decisions/reads and I doubt he can scramble like that against top tier P12 D. Excited to see how he adapts.
Jake Overman — Agreed.
Shane Kady — Agreed, sleeper hit of 2020 and a long shot for an oscar. Redshirt him and get 20 lbs on that frame. Potential 4 year starter.
Sione Lolohea — Agreed. See Kady.
Isaiah Newell — Agreed. I have no idea what they will do with him but he has the goods.
Alton Julian — Yup
Ben Gulbranson — Needs Mechanics work, makes fast reads though.
Zeriah Beason — Yup! Great Twitter user though.
Taliese Fuaga — Yup. Redshirt and hit the gym. Learn from coach M and meet some guys he can’t push over and learn leverage.
Silas Bolden — Good catch on that running style. Its not actually that weird. Its good sprinter technique that you often don’t see in football because it limits your ability to make cuts and leaves you more open for injury. Notice when Victor goes into contact he tucks his shoulders forward and drops his knees. As soon as he hits daylight he brings his eyes up, knees up and tucks his hips forward. This is what you see from a good 200m or 400m runner. Silas could actually bring his knees higher and tighten up his ankles and be a good deal faster in the open.
Junior Walling — No idea, want to see full game film on him.
Rejzohn Wright — Frame and stats alone I feel that hes a 3*
Ron Hardge III — Safety for sure. Good call
Cooper Darling — Not sure if his hips and core are strong at this point. Moves like he can squat 700 and bench 400 but has trouble tieing his shoes. I think with hard work and good strength/conditioning he becomes a monster though. Frame is massive.
Tavis Shippen — Frame makes sense, I just have to assume the staff have seen him in action and know what they are doing.
John Miller — I like him just for the respect he gets from other players and his community. I think he ends up being a captain, seems like a very hard worker.
Trevor Pope — Agreed. Hope he has some break throughs cause if he can beef up his frame he would be a great size in the red zone.
Tommy Spencer — Yes.
Jacob Ferenczi — You think hes smart cause hes an engineering student huh? Its true though, we are smart!
Johnathan Riley — No idea, good size for safety. See Shippen.
Korbin Sorensen — Disagree here. I think he has a shot to start. He didn’t transfer just to ride the bench and he has the size to be a P5 athlete. If he starts it means he worked his ass off, if he doesn’t then atleast we know a young guy beat out established experience.
Joe Quillen — D-Line rotation guy or practice squad. Can’t help but think hes a lure for his stud brother.
Quillin*, stud brother. I’ve heard this mentioned on here a few times. When I look him up no offers though I know he is a 2021 guy. What am I missing?
Speaking of stud brothers, has anybody seen film on Gianni Hunt’s little brother Mike?
Snicker
Yeah… dude is a pussy
I’m just going off his soph film and size. If he progresses he will be a 3 or 4.
Nice work grading your own.
If Silas Bolden carries the same running backwards trait his brother had, some of us are going to lose our damned minds.
Lol, I forgot about that. Hes the only guy I’ve seen make a first down twice in the same play.
Haha. Forgot about that as well.
If Moore shows and stays on the field, and the D line and LBs from the current roster are healthy, they’re going to wreck some havoc and get lots of “surprise” rave reviews just because OSU Beavers has been so bad for so long. The D Line and LBs can do some damage, if the CBs can help out, even better. Coverage sacks would be nice.
No kidding. It would be a good film review to see how many sacks we got that took more than 5 seconds. I would say less than half off the top of my head.
The “shows” part. Is that implying he isn’t on campus? Or more who knows what we will get until a real game?
He is enrolled and on the roster so he is definitely on campus.
Went to the Capitol City Classic at Willamette and watch Wilsonville play the team from Cali with the #1 player in the country (7 footer) and the kid was good but not great IMO. A little passive and timid on the inside but has all kinds of gifts just needs to be ore aggressive. I sat in front of Zach Reichle and that kid has a foul mouth to say the least. His brother, Gabe, starts for Wilsonville and he’s got a pretty good game. He’s different player than Zach (thank gosh) and has the potential to play at a place like Portland State or UofP. He could possibly be a Pac12 player as he’s 6’2″ and is pretty quick and smart. He held his own against a group of very quick and talented kids from Cali. I was tempted to tell Zach to tone down his language but his parents were there and they should have told him to tone it down. Drop the F-bomb and using GodD…. around young kids just shows a lack of maturity. I’m sure Zach is a nice kid, but he should clean up his language.
I sort of understand I drop f-bombs every time Reichle misses a wide-open three!
I’m 7-2 in the Bowl Pick ‘Em on CBS, which is good for 417th in the entire nation. Only 24 people are 9-0 still.
I’m 1 game back of you. Angrybeavs and Beavrecruiting leading the pack!
Oh yeah, well I made seven figures last year, dating a model, and have a 9″ dick!
Girth? Or length?
I’d be right with you if I thought Florida Atlantic would win being down Kiffin and their 4 best starters. Fucking SMU.
Lol, just wanted to let us know? In that case, I made 6 figures this year and my gf is 26.
You going to send us dick pics next?
His camera doesn’t zoom in far enough
When people talk about “figures”, it doesn’t include the two digits after the decimal point.
So 0.26 inches?
The only things we need to be selling these recruits on is that a: we beat Notre Dame 20 years ago and b: Chad ocho cinco. What most people think of as the best college game ever and who most consider the best receiver / overall player of all time! He even kicks!! Rare talent.
Not sure why it’s been so hard for coaches to close the deal since. Time for them to get out, spread the word and close these kids on the Beavers now!
Maybe we can sell them on Terry Baker, too.
Or they could pay them under the table like the Uncle Phil’s of eugene have been doing for the last 15 years.
under?
Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope you all have a blessed and delicious holiday surrounded by people that make you happy.
And, here’s to a good year 2020 for OSU sports.
– marco
Cheers mate. And a merry Christmas too you all. Go Beavs.
And go BYU with under 5 minutes left, I have you in the pool so win you bastards.
Sons a’ bitches
@BlackBandits: Go ahead and count that BYU disappointment against 2019 and have a great 2020.
Merry Christmas to all you degenerates; marco put it well, celebrate with positive people!
Sitake with awful clock-management and they coug it to Hawaii in the Hawaii bowl.
Merry Christmas you filthy rodents
Merry Christmas AB degenerates!
Merry Christmas dirty Beavers
Merry Christmas to all!
What he said.
Merry Christmas, Angry Beavs. Stay angry, my friends.
Merry Christmas to all of you overly critical bastards.
From: an overly critical bastard
So…filthy, dirty, angry, and overly critical bastards. Well, I guess that’s about right. Happy Holidays to all of you!
Sweaty…
Yeah, that too…
Coach Miller says, open up a fresh pack of More 100’s and pour yourself a nice glass of Scotch and enjoy Christmas because tomorrow you’re going to have your asses back on the court learning how to play this game the right way!
How I wish that were the case
Mele Kalikimaka!
“Whatever”……Kalani Sitake
He’s tongan
He just lost to Hawaii.
Gee, that must be embarrassing
Ho ho ho….Merry Christmas to all, and to the party kind a good, raucous, belligerent, necessary night!!!!
….and for the non-party quiet types a peaceful lounge by the fire in smoke jacket and slippers with jack&coke in hand kind of night!!!
Thank you Hugh Hefner.
A little history lesson for anybody intrested. I never knew of this, san jose state and willamette university were in Hawaii during the pearl harbor attack for a football game.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28366087/san-jose-state-willamette-football-teams-aftermath-pearl-harbor-attack-1941
Thanks for posting. The general story is fairly well known; this piece added several details of which I was not aware.
Anyone get any good presents? I got a pretty badass 9.5″ Japanese steel chef’s knife. On the instructions it says “not intended for mortal combat” and “keep out of reach of children and enemies.”
Jealous. I have a pretty decent set of German kitchen knives but I love the nice Japanese stuff.
Eason leaving UW for the NFL.
Lots of changes up in Seattle. Here’s hoping they’re making a Lake Mistake by the lake.
Coaching changes likely the motivation, otherwise seems like he would benefit from another season, learn to cut down on INTs. But people will continue to rave about his arm. Denver? NE, where he can sit and learn?
Mariota ought to be moving on soon?
Bet some husky fans think that’s addition by subtraction. He was not consistent this season and near the bottom of the PAC in a lot of categories. There is some talent behind him, but they could be thin. But, fingers crossed for Lake having Anderpants-like qb whispering skills.
Thinking back I did enjoy that stretch of football where the huskies sucked for like 6 years. It’s very difficult living in the PNW when both Ducks and Huskies are good. Awful fan bases
My Husky buddies golden tears are beautiful to behold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY
Eastern Michigan easily covers and suddenly there’s a 5 way tie for the top of the BeavRecruiting Bowl Pool.
E. Mich QB showed what good feet can do, which Beavs QB is most similar?
BTW: He also showed what lack of self control can do, being ejected for throwing two punches on one play with 10 seconds left in the game!
Didn’t one of our QB commits flip to E Michigan just prior to Seth Collins commitment? Think it was a really tall guy who was recruited by that 1 year OC(Garrett?) of Riley’s, just before Riley went to Nebraska. Forget the kids name
Pensyl?
James Pensyl I believe. He was active on social media encouraging players to stay during the coaching transition and then I think GA ended up pulling his offer.
James Pensyl. From what I can tell, he threw 1 pass during his entire college career bit wasn’t on their roster after 2016. 100% completion rate though!
We were really reaching for QB recruits back then. Pretty sure that was the class where we eventually brought in Collins, under GA.
So he was a #2…..Pensyl?
“Pensyl” neck geek? Or is that too obscure of a reference?
Just checked his twitter which is full of bullshit retweeted trump crap. 2 for 2 passing at Eastern, though.
OT looking at the 2002 season, OSU traveled to Philadelphia to play Temple and won 35-3 (Temple was a garbage program back then.) Never got a home game in return.
Not hard to see why ok state hung so many points on us. That’s going to be a tough game next year.
I hate our scheduling. We should not be scheduling these types of games under any circumstance. I don’t want to hear the $ argument, because if you care about money you’ll make a lot more making a bowl.
Angry, is there really any positives from playing tough out of conference games? Does your team get better because of it? I say no… I think it beats up your team with no real gain… You can make up for not scheduling these games by winning in your conference… That’s the way I see it
Agree I don’t see any positives. The idea it makes a team tougher is speculative mumbo jumbo. We’ve seen OOC teams destroy the Beavs physically and mentally. I can’t think of any that were a positive. The ranking system and bowl committee reward playing cupcakes, yet there are the Beavs trying to play renegade hero at the exact moment they shouldn’t.
Exactly, I just don’t get it… The sad part is these people are making a huge salary to make these dumb decisions… I imagine the coach signs off on this which is strange to me
Seems like these get scheduled years in advance. Baldy probably scheduled this one.
I’m guessing the only positive is it gets a team that is rarely on national television, on national al television. This must appeal to someone. I’m not saying this makes it worth it but that is a positive when you get stuck on pac-12 or maybe fs1 which I believe is regional.
It’s even worse, we scheduled the series in 2015 when after Riley left, Andersen’s first year… They had a bowl win over Washington. Why schedule a program that is on the rise when your program is going down hill?
Why are people thumbing down these comments? There’s no reason to schedule these games if you want to build a sustainable program. Period.
Sounds like the GA War Daddy mentality.
Also, no one thought the GA “rebuild” would be as bad as it was. I remember we were all envisioning an offense led by McMaryion taking on Michigan in the Big House (in hindsight, if we had him instead of Seth, we could have won that game.)
I always thought it was Riley’s way of giving the team an opponent, a bowl game if you will, he “knew” he wouldn’t get at the end of the season. He’d tell them to savor “the experience.” But if that’s your mentality, you’ll likely make it reality.
As much as possible, non-con games should be progressively challenging but winnable, so the staff can work on aspects of the game that need improving and development. Build experience and mental confidence for the conference schedule.
The “soft scheduling” complaints can go out the window, because everyone else is doing it and there’s no disincentive to the practice.
Look at how the SEC schedules weak opponent late in the year. Its like a practice and an opportunity to rest players before the big push at the end of the season. And even though such games are fresh in people’s memory (unlike game 1 – 3 of the season), they don’t suffer for the practice.
The big 12 has improved. Other than Kansas, everyone is respectable or good.
Looks like the AF defense will be well rested between drives.
Looks like Pendergast will be this year’s Helton sacrificial lamb at USC
Nothing like a 12 minute drive.
In theory, couldn’t Helton still be fired? Iowa laying it on USC.
Unlikely. Helton is merely a symptom of a greater issue at USC for athletics: The administration does not care about fielding an elite football program.
Since when does USC not care about football? I thought that was all they cared about.
they also care about cheerleaders.
Recruiting class alone is a fireable offense.
USC football has become an absolute joke under Clay Helton. It’s one thing for a coach to phone it in, but what we’re seeing down there is what happens when the entire administration phones it in. What a waste.
I mean any program on a third string qb is going to have a hard time winning that game. But overall the Program is going to be in shambles moving forward. The cupboards are slowly refilling with lesser and lesser talent. You hire a new AD and can’t get a great coach. I don’t see how next year will be any different when Helton is gone.
They are so deep, their 3rd string QB should be enough to score SOMETHING. But “injuries injuries” – It’s an excuse every year.
I don’t know what Helton’s contract is, but if it’s not an albatross he’ll be fired this week.
Air Force has twice stopped Borgi at the goal line. We had zero chance to keep him out of the end zone on the exact same play. Our D Line has been horrible forever.
Air Force is backed by our military, so I hope they have great defense! ;)
Good. Couldn’t happen to a bigger douchebag.
AF is trying to Coug it by passing the ball and running all over the Coug’s defense
After running over the coug D
OT- WBB getting some more good press.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28375089/why-oregon-state-not-uconn-no-1-women-college-basketball-team
AB still holds the top spot, with Beavrecruiting/OOB/BeavInDE tied for 2nd.
As soon as I talked about my record I lost like six games in a row. Then I shut up and won the next four. Lol
Watched the cheez wizz bowl for a bit last night. Thought the cougs were fairly disinterested in the whole thing. My son-in-law, who is a WSU grad, thought the team was mentally weak the whole season.
Except for the last four minutes of the OSU game!
How is Memphis good? Anyone know that story and progression of the program?
Good coaching hires.
Justin Fuente (current VT coach) turned them around and made them solid. Norvell (former wunderkind ASU OC) has taken them to the next level. Geographically, they’re surrounded by HS talent.
Their QB was a former GA recruit that supposedly picked Memphis over OSU at the 11th hour because he felt like OSU had started ignoring him late in the game. He was pretty well thought of at the time. I believe that was the year we got the late Seth Collins commitment.
Thanks.
So I’m just going through the comments, and there aren’t a lot of on-topic comments or others’ analysis of these players. Do people not like these rankings? I hate doing them because it takes a ton of time, so if nobody cares I just won’t do it next year. Anyone actually enjoy reading these? Anyone agree/disagree and want to add their opinions? Only person I saw give their opinion is Nuclear who did a nice writeup of his own.
I don’t think you need to be obliged to do them. It’s the kind of thing some of the users would do for fun (weirdo a like me) and maybe just throw your hat in the discussion where you think it’s valuable. Looking back at past evaluations I think you have a really good take on player evals that seem to hash out in the 60%+ region.
I think it’s valuable but only if you enjoy it haha. Realistically it’s just a record to look back on to prove that you are good at it and a possible conversation starter while we wait for spring.
I enjoy reading them but I don’t have time to watch all the video so my responses will be pretty limited.
Same here. I do like having a list of commits in one place though; that and comments about possible overlooked gems.
I actually refer back to them a fair amount. I think your track record is slightly better than the recruiting services and it can be helpful to have a historical record of what we all thought about guys when they were recruits.
Okay, as long as people gain value I’ll do them. It just seems quiet so I don’t know if anyone is reading them or watches the film and comes up with their own opinions. It would be cool if more people did the latter so we can discuss players.
My guess is most people have gotten fed up with following recruiting for a number of reasons:
-MR-era “stars don’t matter” mantra
-GA-era complete lack of success
-OSU 4/5-star commits have a below average track record of living up to their designation as recruits.
-The good OSU players are rarely the recruits we were excited about on signing day. That being the case, why put stock in following along at home?
-Recruiting is a narrative gray-area the media tries to make more objective. Even hearing “OSU beat out USC for player X” only tells you so much.
-LOI day matters less now with all the transfer portal activity.
Personally, I used to be really into following recruiting, but ended up concluding it was a waste of energy for a combination of the reasons above. Now, I’ll get a little more excited if my perception of a guys’ film lined up with yours and he looks like a good get. Overall, it’s just too difficult for even the above average fan to glean anything meaningful from the information that’s out there (e.g. our commits with no public film from this season.)
I enjoy them and appreciate them. But given the time it takes, I could understand if you don’t want to keep doing them.
I too, do read them. I’m not football knowledge deep to comment extensively.
You could always make an announcement beforehand and read responses from those who may indicate interest in commenting to gauge whether or not you decide to do it, then make a separate post like you’ve done and allow ppl to add their commentary over time.
Ppl seem to appreciate them, at same time it’s completely understandable if you feel it does not generate discussion at levels you like why you may feel less inclined to do it.
I enjoy them but I like to look at them in 2-3 years to see who under/over perform expectations. Not as Angry was right or wrong but what were people saying when the class was signed.
Putting your opinions down in writing opens you up for criticism but as along as you are a attention whore like Steve A or Cowherd and saying thing to get a reaction or clicks I can respect it.
I don’t understand the ND/Iowa State line. Why is it so close? ND is ranked 15th and has superior team stats across the board. Very odd line.
Maybe this has been covered before but if a hs player is Planning to go on mission for two years, why do they “commit” to a program out of hs? Sometimes they don’t follow through with that commitment which I don’t blame them for changing their mind. But why not just go on your mission and when you are done determine which school is the best choice? Maybe it would be hard if your mission is over seas? Mauve I’m missing something.
Maybe something can change and they don’t go on mission? Not sure. I can’t think of any other reason. But if that is the reason it’s pretty selfish because the school has to waste a scholarship. I wouldn’t mess with those types of players unless it was just a luke-warm relationship or an elite guy worth waiting for.
Maybe some just enjoy the attention. Attention they are not likely to get as a “mission returnee”.
They probably intend to follow through on the commitment, but then life happens and things change. They wouldn’t be the first people to see the world differently at 20 than 18, but it’s hard to know that will be the case when you’re 18.
Did y’all notice that angry has posted a new thread?
The new system here is pretty slick, shows the title of the previous and next thread in bold near the top close to the comment counter.