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Another “General Thread”

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As we approach the 500 comment level on the previous thread and with angry due back at any time, it seems worthwhile to begin a fresh thread.

I know better than to expect this group of degenerates to avoid politics, but how about your thoughts on a couple topics:
  1) If you watched college FB yesterday share your feelings on the new COVID style game.
  2) continued discussion of the fire situation is certainly of general interest…….and where are those GPS coordinates for the huckleberry field??
  3) how about some of your favorite aspects of Beaver Athletics?
Is it the atmosphere at Goss? The caliber of coaches? The current AD? The “ideation” team? The logo?

OK, there are a couple clunkers on that list, but it’s a start……….

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    Re: football.
    Home field advantage doesn’t appear to be much of a factor this year. I only watched 1 game, but the crowd noise for Iowa State was pretty much non existant. Was like watching an NBA bubble game without the piped in crowd noise.
    But, I was glad to get a few minutes of football viewing in.

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      i expect some kind of app where you tap it or something to “yell,” maybe even get to use a recording of your own voice if you choose..people watching games on their mobile devices or tv start rapidly tapping a “button” on the app on their phone, it results in increased noise in the stadium. Basically, a personal control on noise output. So much for home field advantage, right? Say you’ve got LSU at Reser as an extreme example, the Beavers feel like they’re on the road.

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    I’ll keep close watch on tha area with the huckleberries. Right now they are pretty safe, the fires have 10 miles to get to them. Id be willing to give coordinates via email next year as I dont want them posted on an open forum. They seem to be ripe right around the end of August to the first week in September (not sure if this is typical, im just assuming it has something to do with the altitude, 6000ft). When I found the patch it was right around this time last year and a majority of the berries were shriveled up.

    Oh, and if I give you coordinates to this patch you have to give me scouting report of any animals you see and if you notice any bear activity. That includes stumps and logs ripped up, large areas of bushes missing berries with bear tracks and/or scat, or just bears themselves.
    Although I didn’t see any bear activity im sure there are bears there, and you will be walking into their kitchen.

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      Thanks, buddy. I agree about not posting on an open forum.
      It sure sounds like a big patch; my only “go to” for hucks is at 5,000 ft in the Goat Rocks. Only 1/4 acre, just enough to slow me down when hiking out of the area.

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      Put a reminder on my calendar for July. I’ll have Angry shoot you my email then. Probably go check it out with atleast two others to keep a good eye out for signs. The way I move these days I would be part of the dinner for sure haha

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      My huckleberry spot in the blue mountains was just not productive this year or had been picked over. Last year, I got 3-4 gallons, this year, just under 1. The increased amount of people in the woods due to the pandemic may have something to do with it, but I think the odd 20-25 degree temperature swings we had once in a while also affected ripening. Just got back from a high elevation spot in the Cascades and it was pretty poor too. What was there was mostly dry and sour already. Family members did get about 2 gallons there in about 8 person hours of picking a few weeks ago though. This is the fewest berries I’ve had in about 7 years.

      Bear? On my back deck. Stepped out the other night to turn off my faucet and a big, black, glossy bear was less than 8 feet away. Big pile of bear shit about this morning about 5 feet from the front porch. They come into the apple tree just off my back deck.

      4 tom turkeys running about too.

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    I think the pac12 is on the road to playing in November. Other conferences have shown they can out on games successfully. With the pac12 new testing agreement, should be able to put on a season with postponing games like the acc.

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    Update on the Ollalie section of the lionhead fire. Ollalie butte is almost completely on fire, and its pushed north x northeast about 5 miles roughly. Still really hot through the old burn. It will be a miracle if the lodge and cabins are still standing.

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    Any idea what momma machado is talking about here?

    Better get to The Lodge
    @BeaverBlitz
    for the latest on a flipped commitment from a 2020 prospect. #GoBeavs

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    Scott Barnes says the remodel of Reser is still on . . . and on schedule, in-spite of Covid-19. The estimated cost has been revised DOWN by $35 million, now $140 million. Since when do projects come in under budget? He explains all the reasons for the reduced estimate, I’m wondering if they are scrapping the idea to mirror the East side and just going to put some lipstick on the Pig. The main reason for the West side remodel is to bring it up to seismic code and they need to make it ADA compliant. They could probably do these improvements without a complete demolition and just retrofit the existing structure. I know Oregon State Athletics is strapped for cash and Corona is only going to make matters worse but if they are going to remodel the West side of the stadium, they need to do it right. A retrofit of the old side will just kick the can down the road and recruits, national audiences and fans will continue to wonder what High School stadium we play in. We have ¾ of a great stadium, we need the West side to be in line with the other improvements because it is our “front door” and what recruits and television audiences see. It is a reflection on the Athletic Department and the University. Will they get it right?

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      Barnes is just trying to keep donors interested as university tuition and donor money is flushing away like a busted sewer line in the Willamette. Based on past visionaries at OSU: not a chance they go any direction other than lipstick approach, if it ever happens at all.

      DE was the only real winner in the past 50 years of OSU football and it was a miracle that he created the East side at all.

      High hopes and obvious need to redo the old side haven’t materialized on 20 years and it is sort of shameful to the admin and AD depts that it has been this long.

      Commercial usage and renting the facility, dorms/apartments, restaurants, event center are all better long term ideas than an earthquake modification and ADA upgrades. Yuck… $140 million 15 years too late and no vision still.

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      Q: “Will they get it right?”
      A: High probability they won’t.

      The stadium would obviously benefit from a unified, completed look. Is there a conceptual design/vision for it?

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          The capacity now is 45k? That’s with people shoved together on benches, no extra external use spaces (hotel, conference or whatever they proposed spaces) and poor amenities. If they put in chair backs, provide better amenities and a space for whatever other uses they considered, I doubt they get any increase in seating capacity.

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    Watching NFL and all the new stadium debuts yesterday was weird. The main thought I had was why don’t these gigantic structures in the middle of nowhere have solar on them? When you get down to it they are extremely underutilized structures so it seems like a simple way for them to be productive most days of the year. Couldn’t find anything about it being discussed.

    Edit:
    http://news.energysage.com/the-top-nfl-teams-and-stadiums-for-solar/ .

    Found this one. I guess a few stadiums do. 3GW is very substantial.

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      When you drive past the stadium in Philly, it’s very obvious the whole side facing the highway is covered in solar panels. I always thought it was a cool idea. I’m surprised more stadiums aren’t set up the same way.

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    Online school started today……has anyone see the Office Space scene where they beat the shit out of the copier with baseball bats? Im approaching that level of anger with this nonsense. Nothing works, 2 kids on computers one can’t hear anything the other cant talk to the class and the IT dept hasn’t gotten back to us in 2.5 hours. Sounds like the mess is wide spread. The school district decided not to do a dry run and work bugs out before school started, just jump into the fire and see what happens.

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      Just wait till you have a day where the power and/or internet service gets interupted.
      I already am online all day working with people, and then have 2 elementary kids teying to do online learning. Fortunately my wife us home to help coordinate then, but an IT issue makes everybody extremely unproductive.

      Good luck!

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        My wife was home today, but this is my show from here on out. I did notice parents over the shoulders of kids every time I needed to help the kids out with something.
        They are using zoom and to me it seems to complicated for kids. Im surprised someone didn’t come up with a more simplistic design so kids could easily navigate between screens. Its not like we didn’t know this was coming for several months. Someone could have made a fortune.

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      Hopefully you have good teachers who are willing to admit the value kids are getting out of this remote model has less to do with teacher “interaction” (which doesn’t happen with 20-30 kids connected simultaneously anyway), and more to do with them learning some level of self-sufficiency while doing their assigned work independently. The IT emergencies are less stressful when you’re at a point where everyone acknowledges it’s okay to miss some of the video call sessions.

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        The teachers seem to be taking it stride, they have been shooting emails out during the teaching so people don’t come unglued live in front of the kids. They are basically calling this week a wash and there is very little learning other then the basics of how to run a computer and programs. Still frustrating as they coulx have spent a week doing 1 on 1’s with the kids to get them at least some what familiarized. Mine are in 3rd grade and have had almost zero exposure to computers other then tablets. For us its and easy transition, but for kids its seems completely foreign.

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      Not the best take. Wouldn’t that just mean we do much less with the same talent? Their d pth is much better than ours and their results have showed it.

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        If you see recruit rankings as current ability when entering college, it actually means we do a lot more with the individual talent after they come to campus.

        Of course, this is all related to past coaching staffs (at both schools), so it’s essentially meaningless :)

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    The Future of Fire Management
    An hour long presentation by Professor John Bailey of OSU’s top-ranked College of Forestry.
    I haven’t yet listened, thought y’all would be interested.

    https://www.osufoundation.org/s/359/foundation/index.aspx?sid=359&gid=34&pgid=8852&cid=16964&utm_term=WATCH%20THE%20RECORDING&utm_campaign=Hearts%20are%20heavy%20as%20fires%20threaten%20Beaver%20communities&utm_content=Newsletter&utm_source=Act-On&utm_medium=Email&cm_mmc=Act-On%20Software-_-email-_-Hearts%20are%20heavy%20as%20fires%20threaten%20Beaver%20communities-_-WATCH%20THE%20RECORDING

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      I wonder if they feel not only the political pressure but seeing the PAC12 putting out a clear roadmap back to not only fall sports but all sports.

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  17. Fire update. Check out the caltopo map nicebeaver posted and you will see a back burn trying to slow the fire from running to hyw26. Its in the northeast corner of the lionhead fire. Pretty cool the map gives that kind of detail.

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    • Is the backburn that long strip running diaganolly from NW to SE? Pretty cool, I hadnt looked at that back section much because I figured most of the fire was buring in a westward direction, but the wind has probably shifted some.

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      • Yup

        Update: if you zoom way in on that line you can see the road they are using as a natural barrier. The burn out has some good distance they should be able to hold it as long as the wind doesn’t come up.

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    Week 2 pickem games and spreads are up.
    Do you guys receive and email notifying you when they’re ready, or should I keep posting about it here?

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    I finally did listen to the Forestry Professor linked above and feel it was worthwhile. It’s been a long time since my firefighting/logging road construction Summer in Colorado. Here is my summary of fire management theories/practices over my lifetime:
    1-Put it out
    2-Let it burn
    3-Set it on fire in a planned way

    I’d be interested in the reaction of those here who are closer to current forestry practices. To me, the Professor made some sense; some of his points:
    1-Fire is gonna happen
    2-Fire has a hard time spreading through an area which was burned in the last few years
    3-It’s cheaper (dollars, resources, wildlife) to do proscribed burns at a time of your choosing than to run a suppression operation under the worst fire conditions
    4-Well planned proscribed burns will reduce the chance of catastrophic, multi hundred thousand acre fires
    What did I miss?

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    • Wait can you prescribe burn on younger reprod? I think it has to be relatively mature so you don’t risk killing the trees. I mean lots of our land is private timber land and I don’t know how practical prescribed burning is if the landowner is on like a 30 or 40 year harvest cycle. One nice thing about private land though compared to a lot of national forest land is better road access for attacking fires while they are small. I really like what Starker does, wish more timber companies were like that. For the record I am not a forester, I don’t think anyone here is though at least one and probably more are timber industry.

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      You missed the $ component of Fed Emergency moneys flowing freely into a large fire catastrophe. Dead logging communities and lean local economy gets a huge boost from fed dollars almost on a yearly basis in some areas. Anybody propose that this has nothing to do with policy making by state and local officials for forest management? I know several families that don’t mind a run of slow logging during the spring if it can be cushioned in late summer by fat government emergency fire paychecks in a short amount of time. Follow the money…

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      We need a forest management at all age classes and it would be great if there could be processing plants that can handle various size classes of materials; this would create I think more consistent and predictable work flows in both harvest and processing, and hopefully reduce the boom/bust cycles of past forest management practices. Starker Forests outside of Corvallis does a very good job of this. They’re doing mostly even-aged management at reasonable harvest unit sizes in predominantly douglas fir forests, so what they do won’t work everywhere (i.e. east side pine forests where uneven aged management is likely preferential). They’re a family business and OSU School of Forestry Alumni who contribute locally.

      There has to be political will and funding to manage forests even if it doesn’t create direct commercial profit in the short term. Pre-commercial thinning, fuels treatment (Rx Fire), commercial thinning, commercial harvest…all have to be viewed as investments with long term, lower ROIs that produce watershed health, reduce extreme fire behavior, and provide jobs and building materials. Probably 50-60% of the USFS budget is in fire suppression; it more were programmed for management and away from suppression, more work could be proactive instead of reactive. The fire and aviation budget for Ore/Wa/Alasaka a few years back exceeded $500M annually, and that easily got spent in a fire season in those three states. This year? Significantly more.

      But regarding extreme fire behavior, there’s a point where fires become weather-driven and forest management does only so much. Anything that burns is fuel, including housing sub divisions. Even with “good” forest management, with the weather variability we’re seeing, extreme fire behavior is likely for the next several decades. So managing the forests can ameliorate some of the effects of climate change, but its not a panacea.

      A lot of community problems could be averted with better zoning and planning, but nobody wants to be viewed as limiting a property owner.

      For individual homeowners, there are guidelines to creating a fire resistant home site and they’re worth reading and implementing (and they’re from OSU extension services!).

      Being a contractor for emergency services – fire fighting, floods (engineering), etc. looks like a good field for the next several decades. As Ca/Ore/Wa grapple with fires, Hurricane Sally is bearing down on Alabama and Mississippi….

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    Big10 football will be back the weekend of Oct 24th.
    (I haven’t read the linked yahoo story yet)
    Rapid testing and myocarditis concerns were the biggest points of contention. 2 things the Pac12 should be on top of consodering the Big10 is using their same testing contractor.

    So, my guess is the next hangup for Pac12 would be convincing Gavin Newsom in CA to permit practice gatherings.

    https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1306215669034344449?s=19

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