07.May.2010 Brennan Olander and the Five Finger Discount

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Something tells me Brennan Olander is a Jane’s Addiction fan, or at the least a fan of this song:

I’ve been caught stealing;
once when I was 5…
I enjoy stealing.
It’s just as simple as that.
Well, it’s just a simple fact.
When I want something,
I don’t want to pay for it.

I walk right through the door.
Walk right through the door.
Hey all right! If I get by, it’s mine.
Mine all mine!

Strike two, Brennan. Notice it says “when I was 5”, Brennan. Let me repeat, 5. Dude steals a golf cart from an athletic department 5 mil in the red, crashes it, and tacks on $300 more in damages. Good job, guy. Class act. The only thing worse than stealing a golf cart is stealing a gay sheep. Way to publicly embarrass your university. Way to learn your lesson from the debacle in Eugene. Oh, and way to shut up all the high-horse Beaver fans. Coy Francies, Ashton Jefferson, the other kid in Nevada, Kristick, Moevao, Oldander…a few felonies in there. I won’t even go back to the gay sheep incident. Oregon State is accumulating quite the rap sheet over the past five years.

No more can Beaver fans act high and mighty. Those days are gone. Nobody should have been taking that stance when James and Masoli were in shackles. You won’t see a single word in this blog with that sentiment. Why? Because it always comes around. Riley runs a tight, clean ship? Riley is in control of the program? Family atmosphere? Er…

All of it is Beaver-fan delusion, clinging to every puny positive until it’s ripped away from them by one of their own. Olander and his merry pranksters saw to that. In a way this is a blessing in disguise. I’ll sacrifice a DT so we don’t have to hear Beaver fan delusion anymore. That is a trade I’m willing to make. Oh, and if Olander isn’t kicked off the team Mike Riley is just as bad as ol’ herpe lip down south.

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  • angrybeaver says:
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    Oh, and is it at all surprising that that dimwitted knuckle-headed punk Kristick was involved? Ugh.

    • JackBeav says:
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      I was wondering how you left that one out. I’m not too appreciative of the smiling faces of Kristick and Olander while in court.

      Is it me, or is Moevao the only one with that serious ‘I’m a dark-skinned guy in a white man’s court’ look on his face?

      On the lighter side… I’m glad I wasn’t caught doing some of the things I did in college.

      Felony joyriding… on a golf cart?

      I should still be in prison I guess.

  • Mamma machado says:
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    Nothing like the felony of you stealing my heart, angry

    • angrybeaver says:
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      Look bitch I just wanted to fondle your beaver behind the flying j nothing more okay?

      • Mamma machado says:
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        In LaGrande they call that The Amicable Angie

    • JackBeav says:
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      Sounds like Kobe Bryant talking to a female not married to him.

  • JackBeav says:
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    I’m not sure what Olander’s football fate should be because I’m not sure what’s going to happen in court. There’s been little mention of anyone besides Moevao playing with the cart. Since all three plead not guilty to the charges, I guess we just have to wait to see what happens.

    Isn’t pleading not guilty entering uncharted territory for a football player?

    • JackBeav says:
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      What was the cart doing off campus in the first place?

  • Not a Crime says:
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    The cart belonged to the OS Athletic Deptartment. And was damaged while being used by OS athletic department representatives. Its team equipment. Used by team members. Whats next, a felony for using too much tape in the training room?

    – That said, Moveao wrecked it, he pays the UNDER 300 to fix. End of story. The under 300 number is used cause that’s the court classification. As in under 300 not as major issue as over 300. Under could be as little as 20 bucks of damage.


    sounds like the issue with it being stolen is no one knew where it was for 4 days. And at some point during those 4 days our thugs played with some of their athletic equipment and put it back.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      I agree with those who believe that stealing a golf cart seems like a strange felony. This should be a misdemeanor as the type of vehicle and the intent should come into play. i.e. is stealing a golf cart for a joy ride really the same as stealing a Brink’s truck? The charge might be lessened, but even so, my harsh stance on the active player remains.

      My issue with Oldander is two-fold:

      1. He clearly has not learned anything from his last theft or the diversion program he entered.

      2. He clearly hasn’t learned anything from the Masoli situation.

      If those two things do not get through to the guy that you can’t steal (or borrow) other people’s stuff then nothing will, and offense number 3 is around the corner. Slipper slope? Maybe. Maybe he never commits another crime. But two offenses equates to a pattern, and if you understand anything about criminal behavior it’s that the offenses only get worse over time. I think it’s important to cut him lose for that reason, and because he is an active member of the team and thus a stern example needs to be made less you run the risk of mutiny.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Good lord we have become a neurotic angst filled society. 40 years ago this prankish crap would not have even been given a sniff by any self-respecting journalist.

    An incident that reads like a deleted scene from Caddyshack becomes a major story???

    Suspend him for the first game of the season for being stupid. Have the three of them fork over a $100 each for the damage and let us all get on with our lives!

    • angrybeaver says:
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      “Suspend him for the first game of the season”

      I have a feeling that’s what Riley is going to do when the charge is lowered to misdemeanor.
      What you’re failing to understand is that as it stands right now it’s a felony. I think any journalist from any time period would cover a felony charge.

  • Not a Crime says:
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    What is the purpose of a team golf cart? To be used by the team maybe?

    • angrybeaver says:
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      Probably to be used by golfers to take them from hole to hole and to carry equipment.

      Probably not for football players to take on joyrides and crash.

      Ya follow?

      • Not a Crime says:
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        Actually no, Usually every team has golf carts for assistant coaches, equipment managers and team members to run errands with. I highly doubt this is the first time the team cart was used by team players. Usually with permission. I don’t see this as a crime but more an incompetency by the athletic administration and campus security. I could be wrong though.

        • angrybeaver says:
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          Angry: “Probably to be used by golfers to take them from hole to hole and to carry equipment.”

          You: “Actually no, Usually every team has golf carts for assistant coaches, equipment managers and team members to run errands with.”

          Uh, I just said that!
          Clearly you aren’t reading or comprehending and you’re just here to talk *at* me.

          • Not a Crime says:
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            sorry, I thought you were saying that this cart was for use by golfers. I didn’t think that golf or the golf team had anything to do with that cart.

            I’m not here to talk at you. I have for many months quietly read and enjoyed your blog.

            I felt the point was being missed, that maybe these guys were not wrong to use the cart. That it in fact the cart exists to for their use. Only wrong I see was in not reporting it damaged… Probably due to the drinking.

            Furthermore, I have concern for Lyle’s drinking. I thought he was a good leader for the team. Was this a result of being denied the extra year just ten days earlier?

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    What a bunch of dickwads. Seriously guys? If Frat Boy “A ” steals and wrecks a golf cart, probably no one even recognized him and his dorky popped collar, and if they do, everyone laughs it off for the dickwad prank it is. You dickwads play football. Everyone knows you you are. You are held to a different standard than Frat Boy A. Thanks a lot dickwads.

    Should be a one gamer and a lifetime “Dickwad” title.

    I’ve reached my “dickwad” reference quota now, and I’m finished.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      3 seems like a really low dickwad quota. I could have heard it at least a half-dozen more times and still enjoyed it.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Actually, I’m not finished. How do these aholes not get it? They are living out the dreams of all of the rest of us white, no-talent, mediocre high-school athletes. Why doesn’t that matter to them? How freaking hard is it to get through your 4 or 5 years on campus with out being arraigned and/or indicted and/or convicted of a felony?! You have to TRY to get accused of a felony. Shit, you have to TRY to get accused of a misdemeanor.

    What a bunch of dickwads. Hell, kick that bastard off. I mean, we have Stephen Paea, and he can bench press 225 like 7,000 times or something like that, so who need a second DT?

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Oh, and all you jackasses that say it was just “athletes using athletic department equipment” ….do you really think that’s a decent argument? Do you even stop and read what you type? Do you know how retarded you sound?

    Just sayin’.

    • Not a Crime says:
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      When I was a college athlete, I would use the golf cart any chance I could. It would help me get from practice field to weight room to training room to equipment room, etc. quickly. I didn’t need express consent to use the cart. Sometimes coach would toss the keys, other times they were still in the ignition. I did not compete for Oregon State though, so I am an outsider in my speculations. I’m guessing this is a campus securtiy with little to do. And Duck fans looking to shed spotlight for major indiscretions.

      • JackBeav says:
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        The campus security you speak of are the Oregon State Police.

  • angrybeaver says:
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    This guy’s take made me laugh (in a good way):
    http://go-beavers.blogspot.com/2010/05/reminder-how-corvallis-sucks.html

    • JackBeav says:
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      This story is just getting more and more stupid as time passes. These three come home from whatever St. Patty’s party they attended to find an OSU golf cart in their parking lot. They hop on, go for a loud ride in their parking lot, tip it over, set it upright, put it back and go laughing into the night. Because they were being loud, someone called the cops. The cops come and the three are cooperative. Moevao gets cited, and the police find a cart that had been missing for four days.

      Now it’s a felony joy ride? Notice that nobody–police or DA–has said anything about these kids stealing anything.

      A friend of mine (who was once a Corvallis police officer) told me stories about what they did with college kids. They would hide in the bushes near parties and jump out to arrest people if they stepped on the sidewalk with a beer, etc. I thought he was making half of it up. But I’m re-thinking that stance now.

      This is just stupid.

  • GreatWhiteHunter says:
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    Well, Lalich might have helped Riley out with his decision on the #2 quarterback…jackass.

    • JackBeav says:
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      Lalich is gone.

      It turns out Olander’s previous theft charge was for possession of stolen property… a bike for which he said he paid $50. Putting this into perspective, since the golf cart was reported stolen the same charge should be leveled for the joyride… I think.

      Since the cart doesn’t qualify as a ‘vehicle’ under Oregon law, the felony charge is ridiculous. If Olander and Kristick were just passengers (as alleged), does that mean they were in possession of the cart? If someone touched the cart while it sat in the lot for four days, were they also in possession? Since it was on private property for all that time, are the owners of the property in violation of the same law?

  • angrybeaver says:
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    Olander sentenced to 65 hours community service.

    It looks like this is Olander’s 4th offenses, too. Cliff reports:

    “Olander has the theft 2 charge, plus a criminal mischief conviction out of Josephine County from 2006, plus (this didn’t come up in court) a 2008 citation for less than an ounce of marijuana, for which he had to complete a drug treatment program.”

    Uh…do you guys *still* think I’m being harsh in saying this guy needs to be kicked off the team ASAP???

    • JackBeav says:
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      Hadn’t heard about the pot charge. I think it should be legal, and it sounds like the court prioritizes it to the bottom. But athletes should abide by team rules, and one of them should include the use of any substance. I would imagine any substance during the season is frowned upon, but I also imagine that team rules might ban smoking of any kind.

      The kid doesn’t really have any major problems on his plate, but the consistent minor problems tell me he doesn’t really care whether or not he’s on the team.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      The consistent minor problems tell me he’s a knucklehead who doesn’t learn from mistakes. It’s one thing to make a mistake, but to make four (and witness the mess in Eugene)…he probably still hasn’t learned. He’s the guy who’s 40 years old and stealing pens and toilet paper from the office.

    • JackBeav says:
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      More like he’s the guy who’s 40 and gets caught stealing Post-it notes after an office-wide meeting about someone stealing computer equipment.

      “I thought you were looking for someone stealing flash drives…?”

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    Caddyshack 3 pretty much ended as I would have thought. This was never going to go to trial as a felony. As for Olander, still don’t see the drama. One game suspension and let’s move on. Didn’t Afalava crash a car into a bus stop while drunk and just get one game?

    • angrybeaver says:
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      To me the big deal is that this is his 4th offense. He’s now been charged with a felony, 2 theft charges, and drug possession. I don’t see how you think it’s *not* a big deal, to be honest.

      • theft? says:
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        Didn’t Olander buy a bike off of Craigslist without knowing that it was stolen?

    • angrybeaver says:
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      And to be honest again, I think the only reason Riley (and some fans) are either hesitating to cut the guy or being forgiving is because he is a decent player. Ashton Jefferson was off the team after one incident because he’s a nobody. We all got on Kelly for this, but it’s looking like Riley does the preferential treatment thing, too.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    When was his first offense 2005 or 6? How old was he then? Riding in a golf cart that was not his? An ounce of pot? Sounds like 80% of kids under the age of 22. Notice I said drama not big deal. I guess kick him of of the team if it makes everyone feel better because he represents the university and athletics, etc. etc and he can’t seem to learn a lesson yet. If I understand the chronology, Riley knew about all issues beforehand, so you are basically ending his college career for joy riding in a golf cart, right? Hey, I do appreciate how you are cool with all opinions. Ever try being sarcastic or have a differing opinion on Building the Dam or Beaver scout?

    • angrybeaver says:
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      So you really think a 1 game suspension is fine after knowing about all these offenses? If it were a Duck with 4 offenses, including drug possession, you’d be okay with that? It seems like Beaver fans who want this guy to remain on the team are being hypocrites. What was your stance with the Duck fiasco?

      ps. Those sites won’t let me post. You should post a link to this blog over there and invite the dissenters over here.

  • mckalk mckalk says:
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    I am ok with James…one game suspension. Somewhat unclear circmunstances, right? Domestic dispute gone out of control? Masoli was kind of premeditated theft. Went into someone’s house and stole a couple of thousand dollars worth of stuff, that is a true felony. Then he lied to his head coach if I understand it correctly. I can see why he got suspended for a season. I don’t know what Riley has said to Olander in the past…maybe it is a three strike situation. I am just saying ( and I could have my head up my) that if you look at the misdemeanor he committed, it is not a career ender in my book. I am disturbed that Riley seems to have his head buried in the sand with all of this going on and really in hindsight there should have been more debate about the Al Alfalava situation…drunk driving is a serious offense. Third wheel on a golfcart joyride..not so much.

    • angrybeaver says:
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      “if you look at the misdemeanor he committed, it is not a career ender in my book.”

      It’s not a career ender in my book, either, but when you add it to the body of work it should be.

      My argument is one of a slippery slope, I realize. To say that because he did x in the past he will do z in the future. But there’s a point where the “slope” dries up a little, a pattern emerges, and you can begin to confidently predict based on that pattern. For me two of these events would be enough, but to someone more lenient I’d hope four is plenty.

      My question would be this: how many more “minor” offenses are acceptable to you?

      The main issue for me and Beaver fan is the incongruity in their rationalization:

      1. Beaver fans who wanted James’ head for a misdemeanor are much more forgiving of Olander.

      They act as if the behavior is perfectly normal for college kids, when in fact I’ve never seen a college kid in my entire life driving a golf cart around while drunk and likely neither have they. Further, they completely ignore the danger it could have caused to citizens or (potential) innocent victims. For example, what if they drove this golf cart into the road and caused a vehicular manslaughter? It’s for these very reasons the severity of the law exists.

      2. Beaver fans are justifying and rationalizing Oldander’s behavior because it’s a position (DT) of need.

      If this were a 6th string safety there would be little justification or care. Think back to Ashton Jefferson or Reggie Jefferson, how minor their FIRST infraction was, and how little anybody cared when he was booted. Further, Riley becomes inconsistent and preferential–the two things with which Beaver fan loaded his quiver while riding his high horse in the Eugene disciplines–if he lets Olander remain on the team.

      Consider this quote from Cliff Kirkpatrick after the Jefferson/Williams incident:

      “Riley has a near zero tolerance policy for alcohol/drugs. That could have done it. Near-zero because if someone has a long history of being good, he takes that into consideration. (Al Afalava)”

      Oldander was drunk, illegally using a vehicle, had a past marijuana charge, and two thefts.

      Just think about this for a while before responding.

      • JackBeav says:
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        The James situation was different. The fight was so raucous that it brought several witnesses out of their homes to see it. The police were called because several of the witnesses thought it was too ugly to let pass… in an apartment complex where a lot slides. The police went to interview the girl, and the visible physical evidence was so damning that the police ignored the pleas of the girl to do nothing and arrested James for several felony counts… including strangulation.

        Because of the serious nature of the situation, I think his actions warrant at least three games suspension. But the world seems to buy the ‘blame the crazy ex who didn’t know she was the ex’ line of crap.

        Maybe I have a skewed tolerance for the comparison of some of these. If one of my sisters ever had a boyfriend who did the stupid things Olander has done, I would have advised them of my opinion of the idiot boy. If they ever had a boyfriend who did what James did, their boyfriend would have a hard time walking for about three years.

        All that said, I think Olander was suspended for a game last year, but nobody noticed because he was hurt to start the year. I think this incident should quadruple that penalty, and a similar stupidity would end his career by another quadrupling.

        I think the conditions were different for Jefferson/Williams since they were officially representing the school. They also had to either travel with or purchase some materials which the federal government and the State of Nevada frown on a little more than places like Oregon does.

        And dealing with what-ifs is below you. That kind of fallacy should be left to Duck fans who want to flame to forget their own disappointments. I’ve seen so many people driving golf carts while intoxicated it doesn’t even phase me anymore. I saw/did it in college, on the links, etc. It’s almost impossible for me to feel self-righteous about this let alone trying to manufacture ‘the horror’ of some what-if.

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