12.Feb.2013 General Discussion

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I'm still trying to digest this new logo.

The fact that OSU won't comment means it's likely real.

This is my biggest issue: it doesn't convey OSU's reputation as a blue collar, hard working bunch. In fact, it doesn't convey anything. I look at it and literally feel nothing. I guess that's better than feeling repulsion while looking at the muskrat.

In short, better than looking at the muskrat, but I feel like we traded one logo that doesn't represent OSU for another.

Some things to consider:

  • If it is so difficult to make a logo, why make one at all (matte black helmets would be fine).
  • Why does the beaver have to look angry? The CA Parks logo is better than this one, and that beaver looks totally tame.

 

Open discussion.

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  • ObjCritic says:
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    This logo has the same lack of feel to it the inter-locking OS has to it; it’s different than its predecessor, more “modern,” but not necessarily an improvement. It ends up looking unresponsive to Oregon State University.

    • angry says:
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      Right?

      They need one font and one logo across all sports. They need to make that font and logo blue collar and classy. There’s way too much imitation and concern over what a modern design should look like in these latest ideas (interlocking logo and now this). It’s like an author who writes with his audience’s reaction/opinion in mind rather than telling a heart felt story. You can feel these things in any art form (i.e. feels forced) and these haphazard fonts and logos are no exception. The interlocking fonts are a disaster. This logo is better than the last, but when the prior was one of the worst in college sports that’s not much of an achievement. They really should look at the Canada parks logo and take inspiration from that. And if something is hard to draw, don’t draw it. It’s just like in music…a musician doesn’t have to play notes every beat, that’s what rests are for. OSU needs a “rest” since when they “play notes” they’re sour.

  • Timber2002 says:
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    I’ve always thought the current logo is awful. A cross between not funny and not edgy. This logo is better. But the Giant Killer throwbacks were the best look, and they were universally loved. Why go away from that? Hopefully they can keep the giant killer throwbacks and just stick this Beaver-head patch on the shoulder or pants. Don’t even put it on the helmet.

    • EugeneBeaver says:
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      “But the Giant Killer throwbacks were the best look, and they were universally loved”

      Ummm, wrong!

  • Beavblazer says:
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    I don’t totally dislike this design, but at the same time, I feel like it could have been created by any student in a high school graphic arts program. Why spend a ton of money on having Nike working on this for years if this is the outcome. Feels like they mailed it in.

    Reminds me of the stock “insert college here” football t-shirts Nike puts out every year. They create a lazy generic football design, and slap the name of every team in the country over it and sell them in retail stores for $25 a pop. Every year is a slightly different design but that design is shared by every team.

    The Beavs got their own unique design, but it was created by the same lame-ass graphics team. This is not top-notch work that you would expect from a major re-branding campaign.

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbWs_HN2MNpmntRbmBeeSVizfHK6m6SuQIFm7wpDJiTX56Sj0n

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSrcR2Bks97D34KiZHbPVY-Sb1oGR0vtThL6cpmI_Vgn92GRny

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgt9LN9dTpY-yrI0qgA90BVMIpxUPbexlpaAYBJbKC2k8HygxqHg

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXT2Q8oEyz4LWIKpbB_0H-nW0y7YJSqbHSu3mDwvrmDnGnBLXp4A

    https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQr-A3bTvUJRdaGa8xZ7MWT7A1GZ5jRzDrSUgxikOokdwwPgHdX

  • Timber2002 says:
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    Helmet mock-up from beavertke862 on PO. This actually looks really good.

    http://i.imgur.com/vbIr9cw.jpg

    • Beavblazer says:
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      That does look better than the image on a t-shirt, although it reminds me a little of the duck wings look. wonder if they’ll put these beaver heads on the shoulder pads like the wings?

      • orangejulius says:
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        No, they’ll put a waffled/beaver tail look on the seat of the players pants.

    • Jack says:
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      That looks a lot better without the outline. It takes it away from the generic stylized version and makes it more abstract. In fact, it kinda looks like a beaver now.

    • Beavblazer says:
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      I’m liking the first image from beavertke862 you linked to. I’m adding the link for the full array of designs he put up because think other might like to see it. You can see a side by side comparison of the logo with and without the outline. It makes a big difference. I also like the white helmets which OSU hasn’t used for quite some time. Anyway, worth checking out his images. He said there will be more later once he has time to work on them.

      http://www.pure-orange.net/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi/bscpigskin2?cmd=get&cG=137393238383&zu=313739323838&v=2&gV=0&p=

      • Jack says:
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        Now that I’ve seen it without the outline, I can’t un-see it.

        Now I’m hating the outline but liking the abstract within.

        • Beavblazer says:
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          me too. it’s pretty slick when the back ground is the same color as the surface the logo is place on. would be cool to see a negative version of this on an orange background where the black and orange are swapped

  • OStateJake says:
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    I feel like this is still trying too hard to be “modern” and “cutting-edge” and only ends up looking more painfully rodent-like. Which is not a good thing imo, as much as I love the Beavs. It seems like nearly every other team in the PAC (Stanford, UW, UA, Colorado) is content with using block letters on the sides of their helmets. Cal and UCLA still have the curly script going on, WSU has its own unique theme, ASU has the pitchfork, and SC has the same style that they seem to have for a long time, which to me is the most attractive style when you compare the “style” of OSU vs that of UO. The Beavs will probably never have the same brand-recognition as programs like SC or Alabama, but I think a style that is similar in its simplicity to the Giant Killers unis that we saw a couple years ago (that doesn’t change or keep trying to reinvent itself every four or five years) will go a long way towards setting OSU apart from the Ducks and their 10,000+ combinations. Kind of a “let’s get to work and play football and stop trying to have the ‘coolest’ looking (ie new) shit” mentality. I think most OSU fans are already tired of the yearly “omg guys have you seen the new duck uniforms, they’re so sickkkkkk”, so I don’t know why we wouldn’t create a “brand” that is completely the opposite of that, and stay with it.

    • Jack says:
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      *sigh*

      ASU has a trident (a kind of gig), not a pitchfork. I’ll let them be idiots about it, but not us here.

  • bendbeaver says:
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    I don’t think it’s the final choice. Is it said and done??

  • bone says:
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    Didn’t like it when I first saw it, Grown on me a little. But I was expecting worse, not a fan of when teams go through logo changes.

  • hellobeavers says:
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    A lot of you just need to be honest with yourselves and realize that you weren’t going to like any new logo regardless of what it looked like.

    The change is a bit underwhelming, but I would bet that is what they were aiming for in a way. Maybe they didn’t want to completely change the image of Oregon State since we have actually established some recognition through various sports – even if it isn’t up to your standards. No sense in completely dumping the angry beaver because it does have decent value. Instead they just made it look a lot better.

    The Canada Parks logo is literally an outline drawing of a generic beaver – I somehow don’t believe that you would have been satisfied if something similar had been released.

    My first reaction was that it was okay but after seeing it on the helmet like in the picture above, I think it looks pretty great. Hopefully they don’t see the need to write “Beavers” under it.

    • Jack says:
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      The Parks Canada logo is pretty cool. It’s not edgy or pretentious. It’s simple and cool.

      That said, I actually like this new one as it’s presented without the “axe” outline. I don’t know how they would make it work on an orange or white shirt/uni/whatever. Maybe they could place it inside a black oval and make it look like a badge?

      The two-dot eye still sort of bugs me. but I like the rest without the outline. So even if we go forward with the outline, maybe someone will realize it looks good without one of these years and fix it with a minor modification.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        “Maybe they could place it inside a black oval and make it look like a badge?”

        Isn’t that how Penn State deals with it? That’s not a criticism, just wondering.

        Ahh it’s almost funny. The Canucks, with a governmental department, process and budget, have outdone OSU and Nike in developing a beaver logo…maybe because its their national animal, not just a state (province) animal, so more resources were dedicated to the effort…

  • UofDuck says:
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    I actually like it – for what’s its worth.

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    OK haters, something to cheer about. The Olympic committee has dumped wrestling for the 2020 games even though it’s one of the original competitions.

    http://espn.go.com/olympics/story/_/id/8939185/ioc-drops-wrestling-2020-olympics

    • beavergopher says:
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      That blows. Guy I went to high school with won Gold in the ’84 Olympics.

  • hhh says:
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    “This is my biggest issue: it doesn’t convey OSU’s reputation as a blue collar, hard working bunch. In fact, it doesn’t convey anything. I look at it and literally feel nothing. I guess that’s better than feeling repulsion while looking at the muskrat.”

    agreedd!!!

  • ObjCritic says:
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    It’s tempting to get a helmet, go to a good auto-restoration shop, and have them do a proper matte black paint job with an Orange block “O” and send the thing to BDC. By the way, I’d like to see one with facemask options of white and orange.

  • krogercomplete says:
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    I suppose I don’t love or hate the new logo (if this really is the new logo), though I will say it has grown on me over the last few days.

    My guess is that it actually is pretty hard to come up with something good. Out of curiosity, what would a “blue collar” and “classy” beaver logo look like? Are you envisioning the beaver actually being part of it? Is this a beaver carrying a lunch pail and wearing a hard hat? Or maybe a beaver with a tuxedo t-shirt? Cause the beaver knows how to be formal, but he’s still down to party.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    We may have done this before, but if you had to pick 3 teams who combination of logo, colors, and uniforms, you liked and thought appropriate for a school like OSU, who would it be? A few I can think of would be:

    Chicago Bears (Orange);
    Penn State; and
    Auburn.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Comparatively “appropriate” obviously….

    • Beavblazer says:
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      It’s not football, but the SF Giants lettering would look cool for the OS logo. They make Black/Orange uniforms look good on a consistent basis

    • ObjCritic says:
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      I like the orange and old school” look of Chicago uniforms, not the “C” font for OSU;

      Like the simplistic penn state nittany lion graphic, and the fact they don’t need to paste it on a helmet and everything else;

      Like the Auburn use of letters on the helmet, relatively simple uniform, again, kind of “old school,” but not stale.

      I really don’t think the “Giant Killers” were far off; put an intensely orange block “O” on at least one side of a matte black helmet (uniform number on the other?), orange facemask, narrow the white helmet stripes or remove them, shorten the jersey numerals, (they were too tall and made the players’ torsos look weird) use black instead of brown for jersey color. Have an orange jersey version. Bingo. A team that looks like it blocks, tackles, runs the ball, throws the ball, catches the ball, scores more points than it allows, and is maybe just a little bit secure in itself.

  • beaverkman says:
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    Here is link to the Spring schedule for pac12 teams. Beavs Spring Game is a Friday night game on April 26th, they plan to do the re-branding launch that day.
    http://blog.pac-12.com/pac-12-spring-football-schedule/

  • beaverkman says:
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    OT here are the starters for this weekend, sorry if this has been posted already
    @Beaver_Baseball
    Probable starters for this weekend: Fri.-LHP Ben Wetzler vs. RHP Devin Nelson (UVU) | Sat.-RHP Taylor Starr vs. LHP Marco Gonzales (GU) …
    @Beaver_Baseball
    Sun.-LHP Matt Boyd vs. LHP Ben Doucette (UCR) | Mon.-RHP Dan Child vs. RHP Mitch Patito (UCR). #gobeavs

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      Looking like a Wetzler-Boyd-Child weekend rotation with Starr as the weekday starter. That’s not a bad rotation. I think Starr will be pretty good this season. He was inconsistent at times last year but really solid overall. Looking forward to the start of the season

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    TO: Phil Knight

    From: Design Team, North Campus, B21-56F Internal Memo

    Mr. Knight…. We have a potential problem in regards to the re-branding effort on behalf of Oregon State University.

    As you know we have been working closing with a certain Mr. BDC. It appears that he has made a decision and wants to proceed with an entire re-branding.

    The problem is that the design he has picked was not designed by our staff. It was created by one of our designers four year old daughter. She called it Mr. Ratty. As such is was pinned up in his office. Somehow it fell off the wall and included in the options presented to Mr. BDC. He loves it and wants us to proceed.

    At this point we need some direction as to how to proceed. It is the sentiment of the Design Team that “Mr. Ratty” is not reflective of our best work, but then again “the customer is always right”

    Please advise how to proceed. We would hate for this story to reach the public. In our opinion the Beavers have suffered enough.

    Respectfully Submitted,

  • mckalk says:
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    Again, you guys are debating the impossible…..there is no way to make a Beaver look like anything that resembles an effective sports mascot. Please accept this fate however unjust it seems and move on. The logo could be a beaver hanging upside down dead in a trap and I would still root just as hard for my team.

  • whatever says:
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    “If it is so difficult to make a logo, why make one at all (matte black helmets would be fine).”

    To sell stuff.

  • rsteve503 says:
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    Hey…..the double dots for the eye makes it look nuts, so maybe the kids will like it…..

    Seems to me it looks even more like a muskrat than the old one.

    But it should have been done just after the 3-9 season. Then it could have ridden the new success into huge sales….

    …or maybe with that logo he goes winless….hey, take a chance…

  • ObjCritic says:
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    What if the Beaver was, umm, shaved. Mostly. Better?

  • Beaver Byte says:
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    This new logo is likely the helmet logo and placed in that context was done reasonably well. The field won’t have this logo on it. Amongst the whole and with the new unis I think the big picture can still be a very good look that serves OSU well for the next 10+ years. Could it be better? Sure. But even if we get a pretty strong and bold look now it will be fairly typical within 3 or 4 years anyway. Better to be ahead of the curve now and right in the sweet spot for several years to come as far as attracting recruits and more of the younger generation across the country into being OSU fans.

    Confident Oregon State’s New Look will be Good:
    http://beaverbyte.com

  • mb says:
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    The helmet mockup looks like a rooster with a big comb. It is Arena Ball. It is an updated clone of the Iowa Hawkeye. Next will be a name change to a pr concept. The Revolution, the Avalanche, the Clash…the OS Natural Water Impoundment Structure.

  • SalemBeav says:
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    When Tinker Hatfield started this process, he said he wanted to project the lunchpail U aspect of OSU in simple terms as opposed to the holes glitzy style. Kind of going after the Giant Killer uni type. I hope this isn’t the result of that effort. In the back of my mind I see Nike wanting to paint OSU as the court jesters to show superiority in the Oregon brand. Hopefully they have kept this all under wraps till spring.

    • slamadam says:
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      I’m sort of sick of hearing about hatfield at this point. seems like he’s been mostly heavy on talk about rebranding and whatnot and light on tangible contributions to change anything.

      • ObjCritic says:
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        In fairness to Hatfield does recognize the approach at OSU needs to be different and BDC et al seem to move ANY processes at a slow rate.

        Also, we can HOPE that Steven Jackson’s involvement brings some levity to the process that minimizes or reduces the garish approach Nike often bring to visual expression in their products.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Any news on Taylor or Williams?

    • progressivebeav says:
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      They had a great lunch with Simi Kuli.

    • bendbeaver says:
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      No news that I could find. It’s interesting how a lot of the comments from people in his area say it’s Texas Tech over Miami, and hardly a mention of OSU.

      • Beavergopher says:
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        Luck O the Beavs.

        • bendbeaver says:
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          Mike Coppage, football recruiting analyst for foxsportsnext.com (??) tweeted this a little bit ago:
          “2013 Warren Easton LB Edward Williams continues to weigh options, really likes Texas Tech. Also considering Tulane, Miami, Oklahoma.”

          Gee Mike, not even in consideration now?

  • AfghanBeav says:
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    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/season-preview/2013/2614707.html

    It is never to early to talk about Baseball! Beavers getting some love.

  • Beavergopher says:
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    Anybody watch Sparty smack down Mechicken? Izzo is really a great coach.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT – Kiffin, USC having a poor off-season with late losses of recruits, coaching instability:

    http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/ci_22569139/college-football-oregon-state-o-line-coach-turns

    It’s good for OSU if Kiffin stays there, probably bad for the PAC-12 in terms of how the league is viewed in context of other leagues.

    I wonder if Cavanaugh had any serious interest in the position, or it was more polite listening and/or leveraging for a pay raise. He’d certainly get the opportunity to coach some of the best O-lineman talents in the league and that’s maybe attractive, but I could see he’d be concerned about the longevity of the Kiffin regime.

  • Bill says:
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    My thinking is that OSU is not really needing an immediate rebranding of it’s athletics program. The reason is because OSU is not a high profile athletics school. If the logos were changed, would the rest of the nation notice? Would the rest of the PAC12? Not likely. The majority of the impact would be in Oregon.

    Having a lot of fans wanting a rebrand doesn’t make it something that had to happen right now. I’ve tried searching for any good looking beaver logos across the internet. I have come to the conclusion that there is not one good beaver logo out there. It doesn’t seem anyone can make a great beaver logo. every one is cartoonish.

    I am not sure what the fan base wants either…..a modern look, retro, modern retro? Futuristic? Doesn’t seem to be an consensus and possible logos just keep coming out of the nowhere. I was never and probably won’t be sold on the OS interlocking logo.

    If there was a major rebranding, I think the emphasis should be focused more on Beavers than Oregon State. Outside Oregon, people always get confused Ducks or Beavers. More emphasis on the mascot should create a differentiation between the Oregon schools on the national stage. If OSU wants the create a national brand, it needs to answer the question I hear constantly “OSU is that the ducks or beavers?”

    Maybe have promotional items say the Beavers of Oregon State. Ask announcers to use Beavers instead of saying Oregon St.

    Oregon created their brand and have done a great job doing it, we’re playing catch up. Trying to create a differentiation between Oregon and Oregon State is difficult. To do Beavers vs Ducks/Oregon/Cowboys/Buckeyes is easier.

    • angry says:
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      Well said. Beavers of Oregon State could be catchy.

      • osubaby says:
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        Keith Jackson, used to introduce us like that when we played on ABC. Best college football announcer ever!! He would say “The Beavers of Oregon State”. Used to give me goose bumps because we were actually on national TV. Still would if I heard it today.

        • Dick Smoker says:
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          He also used to say: “There’s a whole lotta laundry out there” when flags were thrown on a penalty. Miss the dude, really……

    • Afghanbeav says:
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      Did someone say futuristic? Let’s never forget…. ROBODUCK!!!!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C4_aHq7gUg

      Remember kids, as bad as the cartoon Beaver is… It will (hopefully) never be Roboduck bad…

  • beaverkman says:
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    RUMOR: Heard another message board was saying Malcom Agnew was transferring to Southern Illnois.

    Have not been able to confirm anything, anybody else see anything?

    • AfghanBeav says:
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      Good runner, fumbles a lot. Frees up a bit of a lo jam. Meh. That’s my reaction.

    • Jack says:
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      It’s reasonable attrition. Injuries and handle have put him down on the depth chart, and Haskins and Mattison aren’t going to sit behind him for long, if ever.

      Also start looking for fourth and fifth year guys who are graduating this spring or who have had injury issues to start leaving the team.

    • Jack says:
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      Oh, and start looking for WR’s and DB’s jumping somewhere else for playing time.

    • mb says:
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      That is why they recruited and signed two backs. Even if Agnew were to stay, someone is leaving. Same can be said for other positions recruited this cycle where multiple recruits were stacked up. Just don’t expect a press release announcing it to the world.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      Competition is good. Especially when you’ve got a converted RB (Stevenson), a short RB (Marable) as back-up CBs. The return game should get more competitive and improve as well.

  • beavergopher says:
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    Dennis The Menace back in the PAC 12!

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/…ve-coordinator

    • bendbeaver says:
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      He’s going to have to smuggle his scotch into Utah.

      • mckalk says:
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        Only if he buys it at the discount liquor store in Evanston, Wyoming!

        • Eric Beaver says:
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          I love that you referenced the discount liquor store in Evanston. Don’t forget the year round fireworks!

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            I lived there for one summer as a kid. Thought the same thing about the booze.

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            Alcohol and explosions the perfect combination and Evanston’s reason for existence!

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    Beavs up 33-26 with a decently played half on the road, but it will it be ground hog day again?

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      They have had their chances, time to finally start putting teams away and finishing games.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Beavers lead Washington State 33-26 at the half

  • Afghanbeav says:
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    My wife just took over the TV to watch Survivor, anyone have a stream for the game?

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    51-41 Beavers with 11:19 left

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    And here come the turnovers in the 2nd half AGAIN

  • mckalk says:
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    15 point lead now down to 8, turnovers and Lacey going crazy from three point land. When will this madness end?

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Collier is really struggling badly right now. His offense has disappeared.

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      It sounded like he just missed another wide open shot and the Cougs came down and hit a three. Another one of those damned 5 point swings again. Instead of up 14 only up 9.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    8 minutes left, 56-43 Beavers

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    60-51 Beavers with 5:13 left. Take care of the ball and get quality shots and the Beavers should win.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Now Washington State can’t miss a three.

  • mckalk says:
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    It’s becoming pathetic, lead down to six and the Cougs have the ball.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Crucial missed free throw by Barton

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    ANOTHER made three by Wazzu and it’s a 2 point game. Pretty massive choke here.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Starks with a chance to make it a two possession game and misses a free throw because of course.

  • mckalk says:
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    Unbelievable, Cougs have a chance to tie with 21 seconds left.

    • angry says:
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      I find that very believable.

      I’d be more surprised if the Beavs closed a game.

      • mckalk says:
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        Not exactly a “close”, but they win by one point. I’ve never seen a team play so scared with the lead and under five minutes in a game.

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          More of an average shooter in Lacy losing his mind tonight more than likely.

  • GoBeavs90 says:
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    Washington State makes 7 of last 8 threes, OSU misses 3 of final 4 free throws and wins

    • bendbeaver says:
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      What’s the deal with the other teams hitting nearly all their free throws at the end?

  • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    they tried to give it all back. A win is a win though

  • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    Beavs should send Brock Motum a thank you card for scoring in the beavs basket in the last few minutes. Without Brock scoring for us, we lose. Thank you Brock ya big douche!

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      I mean, maybe, things could have gone any kind of way if he hadn’t done that. But I certainly didn’t mind that. And hopefully that’s the last time OSU faces Brock Motum. He’s such an annoying player and almost always kills OSU. Tonight he helped out though.

      • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        I didn’t see the game (damn directv!!!!) but judging by the box score Motum was just average tonight. Personally I think Motum is over rated. But in his defense he doesn’t have much help on that team. DaVonte Lacey was who single handedly brought them back.

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          Beavers have done a solid job against Motum this year, shooting numbers have been so-so, last year he killed them. He’s still gonna get his points though. Just something about him is pretty damn annoying, almost like E.J. Singler at Oregon.

  • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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    also we should probably savor this win. Might be the last one this season.

    • GoBeavs90 says:
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      I think they can beat Cal/Stanford at home and Utah. But I will take any win they can get at this point.

      • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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        dunno about that. Stanford and Cal are playing much better. Utah on the road is a tossup to me. It could happen but unfortunately anymore I go in to every game thinking we are going to lose. I know, sad.

  • helmsley says:
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    How is it other teams seem to ring in 3-pointers against the Beavs as though they were doing pre-game warmups?

    • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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      because the beavs play the worst perimeter defense known to man

      • whatever says:
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        Worst known to man…except for 6 Pac-12 teams that are worse.

        Opponent 3PT%

        USC 35.4
        Arizona 35.3
        Washington State 34.9
        Arizona State 34
        Washington 33.7
        Stanford 33.5
        Oregon State 33.4
        Oregon 33.3
        Cal 33.2
        Utah 33.1
        Colorado 32.5
        UCLA 31.3

        • whiskey soaked napkins says:
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          well color me shocked. Sure doesn’t seem like it. Guess I got told

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          I think your stats are from “all” games and not just conference games which would be a better comparison. After last night’s game the Beavs’ opp 3pt % was .373 in conference games whereas their all game % is .344.

  • homefry says:
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    perception is not reality

  • ObjCritic says:
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    OT, but look at this assessment of potential top NFL talent. Beavers faced 9 out of 40 of these players, pretty impressive.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130206/2013-nfl-big-board-2/

    On a related note, I’ve seen some WR rankings and was surprised how low Wheaton was. on some of them. Some had Michigan’s Dernard Robinson higher, ridiculous. He did very well at the senior bowl, and I’m sure some NFL scouts have their eye on him. I have a feeling Wheaton will make somebody happy by round 3. With top WRs going 200-220 these days, he looks skinny/light, and that probably doesn’t help. Wouldn’t mind seeing him end up in Seattle.

    • ObjCritic says:
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      What a mess of a post:

      On a related note, I’ve seen some WR rankings and was surprised how low Wheaton was. Some had Michigan’s Dernard Robinson higher, ridiculous. WHEATON did very well at the senior bowl, and I’m sure some NFL scouts have their eye on him. I have a feeling Wheaton will make somebody happy by round 3. With top WRs going 200-220 these days, he looks skinny/light, and that probably doesn’t help. Wouldn’t mind seeing him end up in Seattle.

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        There’s probably some scouts lowballing him so they can pick him up in later rounds and call him a “steal”. Happens all the time.

        I would be surprised if he fell below the late 2nd rd. A 40 time of around 4.45 should solidify a 2nd round slot.

  • beaverkman says:
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    BREAKING: @JHuntweet Already without Jace Fry (elbow), Pat Casey will begin the 2013 season without starters Ben Wetzler (back) and Taylor Starr (shoulder), too.

    @beaverkman
    @JHuntweet What? Didn’t @Beaver_Baseball name them starters for this weekend??

    ?@JHuntweet
    Some late dings. We don’t know the severity. Freshman Andrew Moore will get a start.

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      Starr isn’t a big deal. Moore has great upside. I think he should replace Wettzler with Schultz.

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        Man they get a lot of injuries.

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        Angry, I know you aren’t bullish on Wetzler but along with Conforto he’s on the USA Baseball Golden Spikes watch list (their top 50 players in the nation). 11 PAC-12 players on the list.

        For some reason it looks like Schultz will be the long relief anchor. With his performance at the end of the season last year I figured he’d be a regular starter this year.

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          Wetlzer improved. I wasn’t bearish on him. Neutral..I think he’s a loss no doubt.

      • GoBeavs90 says:
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        Replacing Wetzler with Schultz is not a good idea. Wetzler is good and Schultz is probably best for this team as a long reliever/middle reliever

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    what’s going on with Adam Duke?

  • CraigBeav says:
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    I don’t see anything on BeaverNationOnline about streaming baseball game video this season. And hardly any are picked up by P12-network yet. Are we going to get to watch any baseball?

  • steveEbeaver says:
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    Baseball preview worth the read:
    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/128297-pat-casey-beavers-have-experience-and-incoming-help
    Andy Jenkins will be the 3rd base coach replacing Marty Lees.

  • Timber! says:
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    The logo: keep in mind Univ. of Oregon had several logos (can’t find them) that went public that never “flew” before the final toilet seat was revealed. These included duck heads and other failed attempts at depicting their mascot.

    We’ll see…

    Don’t you think this Beaver logo is a …decoy/fake/teaser/nothing to do with Nike… for the final presentation?

    I do.

    • whatever says:
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      “Don’t you think this Beaver logo is a …decoy/fake/teaser/nothing to do with Nike… for the final presentation?

      I do.”

      I agree.

      I think it’s a real Nike logo, but I think it’s for this line of shirts: http://bit.ly/WLB8vs

      I think it’s an angry beaver redesign and may never end up on a helmet. Or maybe it’s a once a year helmet design at best. The real thing will be better.

      Nike doesn’t usually accidentally reveal anything before they want to. It’s impossible for me to believe that they accidentally sent out a bunch of shirts with the actual new logo.

  • beaverkman says:
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    Here is John Hunt’s article on the baseball team, Ryan Barnes out for a month.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/02/post_47.html

    Monday’s starter will most likely be by committee.

  • yoohoo says:
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    what happened to tatum taylor has he committed anywhere?

    • beavsbeavsbeavs says:
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      **Insert joke about Simi Kuli**

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      ?@Flotrack
      Taylor Tatum runs 6.73s at the @SimplotGames for the 60m dash. 3rd in the nation right now! #saturdaysimplot

      His best sport, seems like he is concentrating on this. Would love him to come here and at least run track, but if that was the case Asu is his best bet.

  • oneoldbeav says:
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    Wilner chimes in on Erickson”s new gig and the Weasel’s contract negotiations. Whatever you think of Weasel, he did seem to be the only studio guy on PAC12 Net worth listening to.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2013/02/14/actionreaction-neuheisels-contract-tedfords-settlement-gaffney-return-ericksons-hiring-espns-countdown-and-more/#more-29709

  • beaverkman says:
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    @MikeCoppage
    2013 Warren Easton LB Edward Williams continues to weigh options, really likes Texas Tech. Also considering Tulane, Miami, Oklahoma.

    Nothing on Tatum Taylor

  • Beavblazer says:
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    Time for some baseball. Go Beavs!

    • oneoldbeav says:
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      Amen! Less than an hour till first pitch and bendbeaver’s favorite- Jay Reese.

      Matt Boyd’s “Inside Corner” series is up with episode #3. Seems Casey is still our main man in the use of sports psychology; freshman Andrew Moore mentions “mental sweat” and an upcoming session which sounds a lot like the psychology angle Angry has long espoused.

      http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/021313aab.html

  • ObjCritic says:
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    I am surprised to see the spring game televised, wonder if Riley will have a different format for the game than he usually runs?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/02/oregon_state_football_beavers_26.html

    I like the schedule for home games, good mix of what should be winnable games plus entertaining conference match-ups with USC, Stanford, UW.

  • ObjCritic says:
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    Riley actually has some specific goals for spring practice this year – improve third down offense, outside running game, find the next KR/PR cover guys….

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/blogs/cliff-kirkpatrick/

    I’m a bit surprised he didn’t mention something specific on the QBs.

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